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August 5, 2025 51 mins

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Why does talking about money feel so hard? In this episode, Kim and Louise are joined by financial and art therapist Rachel Duncan of The Money Healing Club to unpack the tangled emotions so many of us carry around money.

Together, we explore:

  • How shame shows up in our financial stories
  • The cultural and systemic roots of money avoidance
  • Why budgeting isn’t always the first step
  • How art therapy can unlock healing and rewire old beliefs
  • The intersection of nervous system regulation and financial well-being

Rachel shares a gentle and radically compassionate approach to money that centers self-trust, creativity, and community. Whether you’ve struggled with scarcity, felt like you’re “bad with money,” or simply want a new way to relate to your finances, this conversation offers both insight and relief.

“The more money you have, the more you think about money. Safety doesn’t come from having more; it comes from knowing how to be with it.”  - Rachel Duncan

Key Moments:

00:00 – Welcome and Introductions

03:55 – Let’s Talk About Money Shame

06:18 – Why We Don’t Talk About Money

09:10 – The History of Women, Money, and Pockets

13:06 – Generational Scarcity and Self-Fulfilling Scripts

20:08 – Money, Community, and Financial Activism

24:28 – Blending Financial Therapy with Art Therapy

29:04 – Somatic and Visual Processing for Money Trauma

31:32 – Why Budgeting Isn’t the First Step

36:13 – The Psychology of Poverty and Present-Moment Survival

39:23 – Economic Ecosystems and Recession Mindset

43:56 – Guided Visualization: Money as a Creature

49:07 – Closing Reflections and Gentle Invitations

51:06 – Final Thoughts and Thank You

Connect with Rachel:

Join a circle of changemakers committed to leading with purpose, presence and ease inside Kim's Rising Visionaries mentorship program.

Reclaim your career and confidence during midlife through Louise's Rise & Redefine program.

If you’re loving this show, come check out the Feminist Podcasters Collective, where creators like us are uplifting diverse voices and driving meaningful change. If you’re looking for new shows to fill your feed, head to https://feministpodcasterscollective.com

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