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Are you ready to shift your mindset and unlock your inner power? In this transformative episode of Empowered Within, host Jennifer Pilates welcomes certified NLP practitioner, relationship coach, and award-winning author Corey Lyon Folsom. His book, Soul Statements: A Love Coach’s Guide to Successful Communication, reveals how small shifts in language and mindset can create profound changes in life and love.

Corey shares his life-changing spiritual awakening, the power of soul statements, and the sacred contract we have with ourselves to live authentically. From the wisdom gained through his vision quest to how he overcame cancer by shifting his perspective, this episode is packed with deep insights, soulful inspiration, and practical tools you can use today.

🔥 In this episode, you’ll discover:
✨ The difference between affirmations and soul statements—and why one is more powerful
✨ How to stay grounded and light while going deep
✨ The secret to calling up the best version of yourself in an instant
✨ How to transform struggles into empowerment
✨ And much more!

If you’re ready to embody your true self and step into your power, this episode is a must-listen!

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(00:06):
Welcome to Empowered Within, asoul quenching, transformational
podcast that will set your soulon fire through candid and
inspiring conversations.
Leading experts, celebrities,healers, and I share our
journeys of how we've overcomechallenges to living an
empowered life from within.
I'm your host, Jennifer Pilates.
Welcome to another episode ofEmpowered Within.

(00:34):
Hi there and welcome to theshow.
I am honored to have with ustoday's guest, Corey Lyon
Folsom.
He is a certified NLPpractitioner and relationship
coach who helps increasesoulfulness, clarity, and ease
with which you experience life.
His award winning book, SoulStatements, a love coach's guide

(00:54):
to successful communication is apractical way to Practical guide
full of simple yet potent toolsfor making small shifts that
produce outsized benefits inboth life and love.
He has also been a professionaltracker, aboriginal skills
instructor, wilderness guide fornewly sober people, and a vision
quest leader.

(01:15):
Welcome to the show, Cory!Thanks, Jennifer.
Glad to be here.
I'm so excited to have you here.
I just told you off air.
I'm obsessed with your book.
I think everyone should have iton their bookshelf.
Congratulations on all of thesuccess that you are having.
Thank you.
Thank you very much.
Yeah.
I would love to dive in and foryou to take us back to the

(01:38):
spiritual awakening you had in2009 and how that propelled you
to where you are today.
With the books and all of thelives that you're helping around
the world.
Yes, I'm happy to share thatJennifer in I was it was
suggested to me that I attend aTantra workshop and I had no

(01:59):
idea what it was and I had afree weekend and I said, yeah,
sure, that's sounds fine.
So I signed up.
I show up and on.
It's a Friday, Saturday, Sundayand on Friday.
It's a little introductionSaturday teach you a bunch of
stuff and then on Saturday nightthere you team up with one other

(02:19):
person and do some of thebreathing exercises and whatnot,
that they've been teaching, andI was apprehensive going into
it, because we were supposed tospend.
Like two hours and I'm going, Idon't know what I'm going to do
for two hours, you know, and,but we're sitting knee to knee

(02:43):
and we created beautiful sacredspace and everything's good.
The setup good.
And we're just eye gazing andshe knew I was, anxious.
And so she suggested, let's justbreathe together.
And so we're breathing, we'regazing each other's eyes.
And that at some point I wasjust transported into different

(03:10):
perception, a different sense ofthings, and I was so happy I was
so present, there was nothing todo.
Nothing asked of me, notthinking about the next minute.
I was just fully present, likeI'd never been before.
And so it felt to me like theair in the room had gone away

(03:37):
and it was replaced withbreathable joy.
It was, I was just breathing joyin and out and it was so,
amazing.
And We at some point, she said,it's been five hours and we have
to have class tomorrow, so let'scall it a night So, it was just

(03:58):
great and that was where it feltlike I was changed on the
molecular cellular level that Iwas finally.
Not practicing everything thatwasn't me.
I w I found the real Corey andsince then my task has been to
keep them.
That sounds amazing.

(04:19):
So you were nervous to start fortwo hours and then you ended up
sitting there.
Like that for five hours.
We didn't just sit there thewhole time.
Okay.
I mean, we, we kind of likedanced and Okay.
We did different breathings andstuff like that.
Yeah.
Oh wow.
What an incredible experience.
So when that happened thatweekend, what was your next

(04:41):
right step in action to this newCorey?
My next right action was to, Iactually went.
I actually was working with acoach at the time, a life coach,
and I had a lot of grief about avery recent breakup, and she had
me go to the river and let mytears fall in the river and have

(05:02):
them wash away and take themaway and pray to the river
goddess.
To just cleanse me.
And so that also happened andjust these, just me making that,
going through that griefprocess, getting to the other
side, and just really having aniron clad commitment to just.

(05:24):
Stop pretending, stop being thenice guy, G U I S E, and just
being, speaking up for my needsand just being authentic and
being clear with what I'm upfor, what I'm not up for, and
just a new way of being withother people, being with myself.

(05:45):
That's absolutely incredible.
So before these two experiences,were you, would you say you were
on a bit of a spiritual path andawakening, or was this the
beginning of?
Sort of bringing two worldstogether.
I, the first, so I was on aspiritual path, a gradual
awakening, and this was when itjust broke open.

(06:07):
It broke open.
How beautiful.
And then when we come to yourbook, which, oh my gosh, again,
amazing.
It's called soul statements.
How did you get to that pointof.
The title being soul statementsand for yourself, discerning
soul statements.
Well, it actually started withTony Robbins.

(06:28):
I was in this room in a workshopwith him and he told us, he
said, our brains are notdesigned to make us happy.
Their job is to keep us alive.
And to do that, they look,they're always looking for
what's wrong and what's wrong isalways available.
But what's right is alwaysavailable to.

(06:50):
And so I really took that in andI started working with my
coaching clients, helping themin those moments of helplessness
or distress or confusion.
So what are you saying toyourself on the inside in that
moment?
And helping them pre choose.
Something else they could sayinstead and something more

(07:11):
empowering.
And I didn't want to, do thestandard affirmation where
you're drawing yourself to thisdesired future.
I thought, Oh, it's so powerfulto declare something that's
already true and real.
And I have a loving heart.
My soul knows what to do.

(07:31):
There is grit inside me orwhatever.
And so you're just.
saying something thatsupercharges your own
empowerment and your cells andyour bones already agree with
it.
They know it.
And so that I thought, I guessit's all premised on that
answers are in your centeranswers in our, in each one of

(07:53):
ours center.
And so if we could connect toour deep center in these little
micro moments, then we can havea much better next thought, next
action going forward.
I love that.
It's so beautiful.
How do you, to help betterdiscern for someone, the

(08:14):
difference between anaffirmation and a soul
statement?
Because you talk about how theyreally, a soul statement, can
truly unlock your power, yourjoy, and certainty.
Yes.
And can you just dive into thata little bit to help someone to
sort of better understand thetraditional, I guess you would
say, affirmation and how thatworks versus the soul statement.

(08:35):
I found it to be incrediblypowerful and I love you talk
about it in the beginning ofyour book.
You're like, this isn't just anaffirmation.
And.
It was.
It really is so, I found, sointerlocking with your inner
centeredness and yourgroundedness once you have that
mind shift.
So I would love for you to sharethat with everyone.
Yeah.

(08:55):
So, the affirmation that we'veall known you're emotionally
inhabiting this, you know, it'slike you're taking the future
tense this is I want to be 10pounds lighter and you're
imagining yourself you'refeeling 10 pounds lighter And

(09:16):
you're just bringing yourselfinto that state, and then your
subconscious is eavesdropping onthat and goes, Okay, I guess we
have to adjust the physicalworld, the reality to match the
belief, and that's awesome.
And soul statement affirmswhat's already present at your

(09:38):
depth.
And I oftentimes start with, formyself, I hear myself
catastrophizing or saying somenegative thing and I go, Oh
yeah, that's what I used tothink.
And what's really true is.
And then I give my brain thatbetter message.
It's an emotional postcard frommy deep and what in the

(10:01):
affirmation.
That I described, but, and alsoin soul statements, the real
power comes when you feel it,you feel the truth and the
rightness of it.
And that's why I think soulstatements are so powerful is
because you don't have any,difference between, well, the 10
pounds in weight.

(10:22):
It's like, Oh no, I do have aloving heart.
That's so true.
I don't have to make that up andget there.
I, it's already true.
So that's the soul statementdifference.
Yeah, I'm glad you thank you forexplaining that because it is
truly it's so powerful and forme I aligned so quickly with it

(10:43):
that I was so impressed.
I went out to the grocery storeand I was just like I feeling
all this ick of energy, likevery, just people were just on
edge.
And I thought, and it made mefeel on edge.
Right.
I'm like, God, I don't, I got toget out of the store.
I don't even want to be aroundpeople.
This isn't me.
And then I thought I am safe andI am calm.

(11:05):
And I just put a smile on myface and I just walked out of
the store and I thought, Oh mygosh, you know, when you can
take those moments to find, andwhat you talk about a lot in
your book, when you're not inalignment, recognize it.
And take that shift and workwith your mind on that aspect.
And that really brings you homeand brings you back.
when you're incorporating yoursoul statements, which are so

(11:26):
powerful.
I feel your book easily be sixdifferent books.
And it really is in one book,which is so powerful.
And you talk about.
Your first vision quest and howit got to got you to your holy
moment Will you share thatexperience?
I thought that was a a greatone.
Okay.

(11:47):
Yeah Yeah, so I was 17 and itwas in the rural pine barrens of
new jersey and I was given alike an eight foot circle that I
had to stay inside of for fourdays and three nights You And I

(12:07):
didn't have anything to eat.
I had some gallon water jugs.
I tried to drink a gallon ofwater per day.
And there was nothing to write.
There was no food.
So I didn't have to, do thepreparation and anything like
that.
There was no fire.
So it's really removing all ofthe normal things you do when
you're camping.
There was just nothing to do.

(12:29):
I had, didn't have a book.
And so I had to just sit and Iwatched the natural world, the
birds, the sky and listen, therewas wind and I just was there.
And so there was a couple daysof just thinking about life and,

(12:49):
Oh, yeah, wouldn't a fries and amilkshake be really taste really
good or whatever else and yourbrain goes through this Oh, I
want this or I would want that.
I don't have these things.
Wouldn't it be nice?
And so that's just what ourbrain just goes round and round
But the beauty of the visionquest and the beauty of nothing
to do is your brain gets tiredof itself It's like this is very

(13:13):
wearying These are the samethoughts i've thought my whole
life You And it kind of runs outof steam in a way.
And on day three, just trying tobreak, shift the energy.
I just kind of did a littledance and a little circle
shuffling around just to get mybody moving.

(13:34):
And I did that most of the day.
That's really tiring and boring.
That was boring too.
And then on day four, I'mthinking, here I am still, it's
still me.
I haven't had any insight.
I haven't had a quote vision.
And I sure hope it happens todaybecause this is it.

(13:57):
And the day wore on very slowlyas time passes when you're just,
there's nothing to do exceptsit.
And along toward the end of theafternoon, I'm like, well, I
guess I'll just roll up mylittle piece of tarp that I had

(14:17):
in case it rained, which itdidn't.
And just gather up my water jugsand head back to camp with
everyone else.
And as I was Doing that, rollingup my little tarp, bam.
So when I wasn't, when I gave upthe search, the insight flooded

(14:38):
in and it was just, I am a manand it's more important how I am
than any particular thing I do.
So it's like who I am and what Iam and how I am is more
important than.
You know, what I do in thisworld, in terms of, Oh, am I a
carpenter or whatever?

(15:00):
So that was my big insight andit probably lasted two minutes
and that was worth the fourdays.
That's amazing.
What did you do after that?
I stood taller.
I was optimistic.
I knew that I am an upstanding,man and that's something I feel

(15:27):
in my heart even today.
And I just, knew that I wouldchoose righteousness and
goodness and choose life as timewould go on.
That's incredible.
I love how you're unfolding herein the interview is very similar
to how your book unfolds and howit brings you on your own

(15:47):
journey.
Even though we're with you andwith that, there's a powerful
statement that you wrote and youwrote the task that hinders you
is the task.
Well, that gives you pause.
Doesn't that make you just stopand think about everything in
your life that you're trying todo?
Right.
What does that mean to you?

(16:08):
And how could you put that intowords and explain that so that
people could understand how theycan work with that in their
lives today?
So.
If you look at this existence,we all share as some sort of
cosmic school, then, perhapsthings that happen, there's

(16:29):
lessons in them.
And if I learn the lesson, maybeI don't have to keep repeating
the same thing over and over.
And so when I was a wildernessguide, we, and aboriginal
skills, and Dr.
Kind of merged because I wasjust the one first.
And then in the wilderness, wewere doing aboriginal living
skills.

(16:50):
And so one of those is lightinga fire without matches.
So you get two sticks and one'sa cylinder and one's a board and
you spin, spin them together,create a coal, make a fire, and
there's about 32.
Little aspects of that, that youhave to get just right all at
the same time.
So it's very frustrating, tolearn and to do consistently.

(17:15):
And so I have these students andthey're novices in the
wilderness to begin with.
I have to make a fire everynight, cook their own little
food on their own little fire.
And it was very frustrating.
And, but that's the work iswe're, it's, we're not.
thinking that they're going tolight their fires without

(17:36):
matches the rest of their life,they will perhaps learn some
ways to better deal withfrustration.
So maybe part of that is askingfor some help or some guidance.
What am I doing wrong?
Could you know, Hey, you didthis.
Could you watch me and give mesome tips?
And so the frustration that theyfelt was huge.

(17:58):
And that's the work is to let'ssee how I can figure that be
frustrated and still, you know,move through it, move through
it, which is so powerful,especially right now in our
world with everything that Ifeel everyone is going through.
Through because we alwaysgenerally have to go through it
to get through it.
Right.
To get to the other side, wejust can't kind of walk around

(18:19):
it, especially right now.
What advice do you give topeople that are struggling?
You know, the last four yearswere incredibly challenging.
I can't believe I'm saying fouryears.
It's been now, but I mean, it'sstill going, um, something's
still happening.
What advice do you give to allof us to help us through?
Because right now, when you saythere are so many unknowns.

(18:42):
There are also so many knownsthat are fearful at the same
time.
What advice do you give topeople to work through all this?
They were going into one thing Iwas reminded of when you were
saying that question is howsometimes I'll ask a person I'll
say, what's your belovedpartners, or if you don't have

(19:03):
one right now your your pastbeloved partners, chief
complaint regarding you.
And did you hear that samecomplaint with other people too?
And I'm like, Oh yeah, they'reall saying the same thing.
So it's like, Oh, well perhaps Icould work on that.
Oh, I want to find someone new.

(19:23):
You know, I'm single.
It's like, well, what, what kindof person would you want to be
in order to attract the type ofperson you would want to be
with?
And so it's just.
You know, everything is anopportunity to practice being
our best self and the world, thechallenges of the world aren't

(19:46):
going to evaporate anytime soon.
And we, but we, each one of ushave to decide how I want to be,
what kind of partner do I wantto be.
That's such good advice.
It's true.
We really, again, need to tuneinto Self to Ground through our
soul statements.

(20:07):
That's right.
And, and really key to this, tome, the thing that's not being
said is this, that a little bitof time spent in stillness,
because that's where you, youdiscover what's in your center.
You do, you, you develop yoursoul statements, you develop
your, your sense of self.

(20:28):
So, uh, I can remember, I thinkback to this.
Certain place in this certain,mountain in the wilderness of
California.
And I remember stopping there atthis little bubbling spring and
just sitting and feeling how itwas, everything was moving, you

(20:48):
know, the water's bubbling, thedragonflies are buzzing around,
but there was this.
contentment that, that was in,it was imbued in everything.
It was just utter contentmentthere.
And I could sit there and Icould feel it.
And so if I in stillness,remember that place, remember

(21:11):
that sense of contentment, Ihave a soul statement associated
with that, which is thecontentment of the mountains
lives inside of me.
And so I can put myself in thatcontentment.
And so I, I just a big fan of.
of that kind of stillness andfor some people they discover
their insights about themselvesthrough a hard physical workout

(21:34):
or a stroll some people sittingon a meditation cushion other
people it's journaling so it'snot just one way but some way
that you connect with who youare at your depth is a, I'm a
big fan of.
And I, again, I love how in yourbook you address each one of
those that you just talked aboutand acknowledge that not
everyone just sits in meditationand you have wonderful

(21:57):
journaling prompts, which is whyit takes like two minutes.
Um, it takes a bit to go throughand I feel then to re go through
and revisit the differentaspects in your, in your book,
which are, are really great.
Do you have a favorite practice?
Because you go through all ofthem, you know, pretty much all
of them in your book.
Yeah.
Well, I, I have a little kindhome, beautiful spot, a little

(22:20):
refuge within the refuge that Iwill sit.
And just feel my own essence inthe morning.
So I do that.
I'm also a big fan.
I mean, I hike, I do journalingand, but when I'm just trying to
feel, that centeredness, thatgroundedness.
And so that, that's how I do it.

(22:41):
Yeah.
I think that's super important.
It's something we're allstriving for in every, I find
every day.
It's a new way that I'madjusting to do it based on the
events of that day.
Yeah.
And one thing I know, like.
And in order to kind of have theright attitude, if you will,
about it, like if I'm doing ahard workout, I'm on a treadmill

(23:01):
or I do those things.
So it's like a stairs, theendless stairs.
And I purposely think to myself,I'm doing this as an act of love
to me.
So I, cause sometimes it canfeel like punishment and I just
want to affirm this isn'tpunishment, this is an act of
love.
That's powerful.
That's something we all need towork on that, that workouts are

(23:24):
an act of love for thelongevity, for our heart, for
our organs and everything.
That's very special.
I love that.
Tell me a bit about, you talkabout spirit vitals.
And.
You talk about this one aspectthat, gosh, again, I feel it's
just so imperative to where weare today, especially with our
empaths and our highly sensitivepeople.

(23:47):
How does one stay light whilegoing deep?
When we have this centered placethat we can anchor to, that we
refeel, then it creates.
a bit of ability to hold sometension, to hold some space, to

(24:09):
hold some time, so that we don'thave to blurt out.
What we think or what we thinkwe need impulsively.
So a little bit of selfassuredness is part of this all.
And so we're better able to,just listen.
And cause I know who I am.
And so if somebody is, even ifsomebody's, pointing their

(24:32):
finger and saying, you're adummy dog and you're dumb as a
post, or you're this, or you'rethat, or you did something
terrible or wrong, you canremind yourself silently saying,
you know what, I'm made of toughstuff.
You know, what's right about meis always available.
And the thing is, as yourserenity increases, You can hold

(24:53):
this circumstance more lightly.
And so you don't need to,quickly, advocate for yourself.
You can just.
Wait your turn.
And, and one thing about, Iwanted to just slip in another
little thought, which is aboutacknowledgement.
I love acknowledgement.
I love receivingacknowledgement.
And the beauty of it is youdon't have to agree.

(25:16):
Somebody can be saying whatever,and you can just say, I get that
this is difficult for you.
I see that this is distressful.
And they're like, yeah, thankyou.
And you're like, you don't haveto agree that they should feel
that way, or they have anyreason to, but it, but that's,
you're validating, you know,their, and that goes a long way

(25:37):
toward them, at some point,being willing to listen to you.
Right.
And I also feel that goes such along way.
in our society today.
I feel like many moons ago, weused to be that way.
I remember being that way wherewe could talk about anything you
and I, and somewhere along thelines, I don't know, some sort

(25:57):
of shifts and turns happened.
And I feel this is so amazingand it would be so important for
all of us to get back to rightnow of this place of holding
space and realizing that byholding your tongue, holding
that space, we can allow so muchmore light and groundedness.
and have acknowledgment for oneanother going back and forth.

(26:20):
Absolutely.
And if you think of the conceptof, say, your emotional gas tank
or physical gas tank, or youremotional well, having some
sense of, you know, am I, is myemotional well topped off or is
it feeling a little low?
And it's totally fine to eventalk in those terms where

(26:44):
somebody says, Hey, let's dothis thing.
And you're like, well, I'mfeeling a little low on energy,
so I'd love to do that, or Letme back up.
I always like to lead with thepositive first, like, yeah, so
yeah, that sounds great and I'mfeeling a little tired, so
perhaps we could do it for justtwo hours or, you know,

(27:07):
something like that.
Or maybe we could start a littlelater so I could rest a bit
first.
So it's a way of communicatingyour needs.
a little with a little moregrace and being having that
awareness of what am I up for ornot up for?
What am I capable of?
I don't want to, you know, getsay yes to something and then

(27:28):
part way through be going.
I wish I hadn't said yes tothis.
So, I'm a big fan of yes.
And how about we do it this way?
Right.
And that I think is so importanttoo, because in some ways,
again, I feel we've been muchmore preconditioned to just
agree in the moment versusdiscerning and taking time for
ourselves.
Like the more I learn aboutmyself, the more I realize I'm

(27:50):
someone that needs to take amoment or I'll agree to
everything because I'm, youknow, just want to do
everything.
And the more you take that stepback, then the more you're, you
Honoring yourself can work withyour soul statements can ground
and then really discern Is thisreally what you want to do or
are you feeding off of someoneelse's energies?

(28:10):
You know again going back toyour book.
It's so enlightening and so deepbut yet light all at the same
time That's right.
And that's that's the thing andI in some clients I encourage
them to who you know, the peoplethat just say yes or no When
they maybe should have saidsomething else, I encourage them

(28:34):
to practice, for two weeks,don't modify everything.
So say yes, but with a modifier.
So they're still in the habit ofsaying yes, we're not trying to
do that all the way.
So like the yes, and It wouldwork best for me.
Maybe if we, do that on Tuesdayinstead of Monday, something
like that.
So yes, and is a great place tostart.

(28:56):
And that's the thing it's likeby remembering what you're made
of beneath circumstance, beneathwary, then you're connected to
your own value.
And then you more likely to,it's easier to speak for your
values.
And I, yes, and it's sogrounded.

(29:17):
And it, when you say yes.
And I was in such a trance withyour yes.
And which is why I paused therefor a minute.
Cause I was still on that.
I love the yes.
And versus again, in oursociety, everything is a butt
and somewhere, but became normalwhen, but is really a negative
con in tone, right?
It's like that backlash that'scoming at you.
So your yes.

(29:37):
And is showing grace andacknowledgement for yourself and
whom you're communicating with.
That's absolutely right.
But wipes away or discountseverything that came before it.
Right.
Yeah.
So that I'm a big fan of.
I hear that and.
I love that.

(29:59):
Like we need and in quotationsand with a capital A.
And let's move on.
Okay.
So there's something else I feellike this is, is slightly in
alignment with this.
You write the reward for yourenlightenment is work.
Gives me pause.

(30:20):
Exactly.
That's my giggle that comes withit.
I'm like, I know what he'sgetting.
Talk to me about that because alot of people don't understand.
that enlightenment is work.
It is not, you know, as much aswe can joke about rainbows and
unicorns and lollipops, itreally isn't.
We can feel those moments, butit is work and it's important

(30:42):
work that should be acknowledgedand cherished and honored.
Absolutely.
And I am coming from it with aslightly different take.
I'm all about the and now.
Where I was, where I was, whatmy thinking was behind that
statement is once you'reenlightened in that, you really

(31:08):
know who and why, not just whoyou are and what you are, but
why you are now.
You have work to do because youhave a purpose.
You've discovered your purposeand you want to go do that
thing.
Make that contribution.

(31:28):
You're like, Oh, now that I knowwhy I'm here, there's a lot that
I want to make happen and I justwant to contribute.
That's what it all boils down tois when you've discovered what
you're made of.
Like now I have something togive.
And you start looking around forhow to do that.
How do you help your clients getto that point of, you know,

(31:52):
Eureka, this, this is it.
Or do you ever get there?
We get there and it's, you know,a little different depending on
the person.
And, you know, I don't knownecessarily what's going to
really.
Click for someone, we exploreit.
The main thing I'm doing withcoaching clients is I'm helping

(32:15):
them ask better questions.
So I don't have their answers.
But I can help them get to theirown answers.
So it's really, that's one thingI generally coaches do is they
short, they help shortcut you toyour own answers.
And so, you know, we can talkabout.
better techniques forcommunicating and for, sharing

(32:39):
what you need all day long.
And really it's these, this timediscovering who you are and you
somehow getting to Your own,essence.
And I can remember this onewoman I worked with, she came to

(32:59):
me because she was looking to bepartnered with someone, you
know, the clock is ticking.
And so, what she discovered washer, she discovered herself,
which is really the big prize.
And so now she's more attractiveand magnetic to the right kind

(33:21):
of person.
And so that, that's how, I don'tthink I really answered your
question very exactly, butthat's what I thought to talk
about.
Yeah, no, I feel the essence ofthat is what everyone will
understand.
You know, everybody is on theirown path and what you're meant
to find is there waiting foryou.
Yes.
And you know, your deep knowingme, you meaning everyone, your

(33:44):
deep knowing is alwaysavailable, as I've said, and you
have to intentionally tap intoit.
You have to put the world off tothe side for a moment and just
feel yourself and just allowenough quiet.
And stillness to hear thewhisper of your spirit.

(34:06):
And one of my practices that Ilike is just to sit like in a
meditation and my goal isstillness.
So stillness of my body andstillness of my thoughts.
And just, it's like a little,not a contest because I'm not
contesting with anyone, but it'sjust a little game, I guess it

(34:26):
would be.
I'm just making a little game ofhow still can I be?
And how do you help guidesomeone when they say, I don't
know, that I can get quiet forstillness?
What is your advice to thatperson?
One thing that I just thought ofwhen you said that was, the
binaural.

(34:46):
meditations where you're havingsome kind of music and you've
got headphones but there's asubliminal beat that's a
different beat this side as itas is that side and that will
drop a person down into loweryou know theta beta you know
different delta states prettyreadily and I'm a big fan of

(35:08):
that.
So me too.
I love dropping down and out.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And and the thing is, we don'thave to try and reach down and
pull stuff up from our center orour soul.
If we get quiet, who we arenaturally percolates up.

(35:28):
I agree.
And it's a beautiful experienceand one that we can willingly
tap into.
Any moment of any day, it'staking that first step to get
there.
Yeah.
And I, and people who arethinking about, Oh, what's my
next step?
I'm done with this project.
I don't know what my nextproject is.
And my advice to them mightsound something like just trying

(35:55):
to do as little as possible.
And, say your name's Frank.
I would say just, you know, LetFrank be Frank and, the
compulsion of your soul, if youwill, that whatever is your soul
wants to do and be in thisworld, that will find its way up
to your mind and just.
If, if you do nothing longenough, you'll be really wanting

(36:17):
to do what you're put on theplanet to do.
I agree.
I find the more quiet you are,the more you slow down, the more
advancement and excitement comesfrom your soul of those aha,
those epiphany moments.
And then you're propelled withso much energy from them.

(36:38):
The key is just to know thatslowing down is so much better
than.
The so called programming ofhustling through.
That's right.
That's right.
Yes.
Talk about the giver of power.
You wrote about this and howthis transformed your cancer
experience, which was soprofound to read.

(37:00):
And so I would love for you toshare a bit about that.
Because again, I feel thatreally ties into everything that
we're speaking of and helping toempower.
People through this journey.
Yeah.
Giver of power is actually atranslation of the name that the
polar Eskimo have for the polarbear.

(37:20):
And, Barry Lopez wrote about itin his book, Arctic dreams.
And when, And typically theEskimo hunters, they're out by
themselves, thousand miles ofsea ice, they're looking for the
seals, and all of a suddenthere's a polar bear, and
there's no trees to climb,there's no holes to go into,
it's, and if the polar beardecides to let you live, You're

(37:44):
like, Whoa, let me get back tocamp and just be with this.
You, you it's like, it's access.
This part of your emotionallibrary that was maybe behind a
little lock and key.
And you just know a little bitmore of what you're made of, who
you are.
And so when we have these.

(38:06):
Times that I could die.
I could really actually die.
Something happens to where itconnects you to why you're here.
Why you don't want to die.
And so that's why these big,scary events.

(38:26):
Can actually we gain somepersonal power from them because
we're more connected to holycrap I want to this is why I'm
in the world and I want moretime to Live this right.
Do you would you almost say thatwhen we're going through these?

(38:47):
Traumatic experiences that whatfeels so disempowering Actually
becomes the empowerment thatpropels us forward Absolutely.
Absolutely.
And a person can look back andsay, that sucked.
This was rough.
I felt helpless and hopeless andI don't want to ever repeat

(39:09):
that.
And by God, I survived it.
And look at me.
It's like, I can remember when Iwas 18, my father died suddenly
unexpectedly.
And I was so grief stricken andI was so feeling lost and
unmoored for weeks and months, Iliterally thought there's no way

(39:34):
I can be happy again, this isterrible.
And yet we realized withtincture of time and other
things.
That I'm here for me.
I'm here to be me.
I'm and it's we went throughthis difficulty and still here.

(39:56):
I'm so first I want to say I'mso sorry that you had to go
through that.
But I appreciate that you usethat.
to help our audience right now,because there are so many people
transitioning right now.
And it is happening, similar towhat you're saying, very quickly
or very unexpected.
In having gone through what youwent through, what advice can

(40:20):
you give to others to help getthem even a little bit more
through it since you've beenthere?
To not try and fight thefeelings, to not try to
suppress.
And, but just to actually letyourself feel wretched, but with
the time limit, do you have atie?
I always, when I'm alwaysworking with myself, I always

(40:42):
say 90 seconds because I learnedthat from the Navy SEALs.
You have 90 seconds to be ashappy and joyful as you want.
You have 90 seconds to be as.
Piss poor, angry, sad, whateverit is.
Do you have a time limit?
Well, I think I let people picktheir own time limit, but, for
me, I have, I think 90 secondsis a great period of time.

(41:03):
It's enough to really get downthere and you can still do
another 90 and you will doanother 90 seconds.
down the road, maybe an hourgoes by and you've got to do
another 90 seconds cause it'sjust the wave comes and you just
do it.
And that's, I found the fastestway through is just when these

(41:26):
waves of feeling come say, allright, 90 seconds, here we go.
I'm on the ride.
And I'm fully there and thenit's time to be myself again in
a different way.
So yeah, and what happens isthese times of feeling wretched
for this amount, they justhappen.

(41:48):
At first, it just seems likethey're just going to keep
coming, but they generallythey'll get more and more spread
out and they come less often.
And so that's just how it works.
Right.
I know.
And it's so hard.
To talk about it, to, to make itsound so easy to get through
when we all know that it's not.
But there are times I like tothink about when I do have

(42:11):
emotions like that, when they docome up to allow myself that
time to cry it out or whateverit is, but then to remember a
positive with that at the sametime so that by the end I'm
laughing or I'm like crying witha smile on my face thinking
about this better moment again,almost like your soul statement,
like to try to shift that energyfrom.

(42:34):
Me being so sad to wait.
What about the moments and theenergy that it was exchanged?
And you know, and I can rememberbeing extra sad when I would,
think that my children wouldnever know my dad.
It was like, Oh my God, that'sterrible.
And, I'm actually not sure whatI was going with.

(42:58):
But you know though, in thinkingthat, because I'm sure that
there's, again, that's veryrelevant right now, so and so is
never going to know theirgrandfather and this and that.
But is that true?
Because the truth is there's anessence of that person through
you.
Absolutely.
And I'm sure there's got to beat least one picture or one
video or something, right?
Like that's up.
You're now the legacy that canhelp.

(43:22):
the family to know, and I canremember when I was in the
depths of my sadness with mycancer and an upcoming surgery,
one of many and all this stuffthat my best friend was, I was
talking to him on the phone,kind of crying about it all.
And he just listened reallywisely and he said the most

(43:42):
perfect thing.
He said.
Focus on what you're gaining.
That's very powerful.
Changed everything.
Yeah, it does.
It really does because that'sjust such a one 80.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
That's a powerful thing.
And I think that right now,because actually that leads us

(44:03):
into my next question was, isthere something that you as
advice that you can give us or apowerful soul statement to help
us make that shift that canproduce, as you say, outside
benefit in our life and love.
And I think right now.
with the climate of our worldShifting on what could we
possibly be gaining versuslooking at maybe what we're

(44:26):
losing or You know what's goingto the wayside When I trust love
I can handle whatever happens.
I am bigger than any complaintLiving in wonder is a gift and a
joy.

(44:47):
I have a sacred contract to loveand to love in I'm, tearing up.
They're so powerful and you doyou talk about is it?
It is the sacred contract thatyou want.
Is that what it's called thatyou walked me through?
You walked me through your book,through you.
I felt like you were there withme.
You were holding my hand everystep of the way.
Yeah.

(45:08):
Yeah.
That you make those.
Well, I, yeah, I talk about,spirit vows, like I, that's it.
I take you, my body to be withme through this life to have and
to hold.
I vow to not abandon my heart.
Yeah, that was a very powerfulpractice too.
I mean, it's, your book is soevolving and Something else that

(45:29):
I wanted to mention to everyonewhen they grabbed their copy is
that when I first opened it Iwas guided to a certain section
And I, it wasn't even like thebeginning of the chapter.
It was just this, so I startedreading and then I finished the
chapter.
Then I went back, started thechapter to, to the point that I
had read.
And then it was like, okay, nowgo to the beginning.

(45:52):
And when I went to thebeginning, what was your
statement?
Do not treat this book like anovel.
Yeah.
And I thought, wow, becauseexactly where I opened it
couldn't have been more spot onto where I was in that moment in
time.
Wonderful.
Yes.
I can't even tell you howpleasing that is for an author
to hear.
Oh, and it's, and I, it issomething that I have nourished.

(46:15):
This isn't you're going to goand read the whole book, like
you're going to spend some time.
It's like a college course.
Hmm.
It really is.
I just tried to, yeah, I triedto put it, you know, chock full
of good stuff, tips, tricks,techniques, just powerful,
potent, simple, it's kind of a,almost a workbook and a book.

(46:36):
100%.
And that's why I said, I feel wecould easily do a podcast for
every chapter.
That's how much nooks andcrannies and gems and
insightfulness was in eachchapter and how each one can be
as transformative as the next.

(46:56):
Mm hmm.
Mm hmm.
Yeah.
And I, I threw in lots ofanecdotes, lots of stories.
You did.
That was nice.
Something that took my life tohelp make a point.
It made a point and then it kindof made it a little lighter.
It kind of made me feel a littlebit lighter about myself for a
moment.
Right, right, right.
Like I didn't, like I didn'temerge, you know, as the person
you see today.

(47:17):
Yeah, I know.
I thought, yes, it wasabsolutely incredible.
When you look back over theyears of your awakening and
finding, your path tospiritualness and your
awakenings, who have been yourbiggest inspirations?
I think about my father, he wassuch a kind person and he was,

(47:38):
one of his favorite sayings waslive and let live.
Like somebody was being, youknow, loud or whatever, you
know, and, like on the, on thehighway, he'd say, yep, let them
have the road.
So he was just easy going.
And I wasn't naturally easygoing, but I absorbed at least
some of that from him.

(47:59):
Yeah.
And, just, I think about thepartner that I'm with now, I've
been with this woman for 11years and she is such a great
example of self care.
I never met anyone who putsthemselves first before like she
does.
And I like to say soul self careis soul care and she just really

(48:21):
embodies that and I respect it.
And I realized through beingwith her that this self care
that she practices.
And the unwillingness to rusharound is really part of what
allows her to do great things.
That's, I love that word, soulcare.
Yeah.

(48:42):
I feel like this could be abook.
I feel like you have anotherbook coming.
Okay.
All right.
Yes.
Soul care.
That's a beautiful, I love thatso much better than self care.
Uh huh.
Self heaviness to it.
Soul care, you just feel likeyou can embody it and it's just
warm and cozy.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Right.
So you're not being selfish,you're being soul fish.

(49:03):
Mm hmm.
I love that.
Oh my gosh.
Corey, this has been amazing.
Will you share with ourlisteners where they can best
connect with you and can alsograb a copy of your book?
Yeah.
I have a websitecorerelationship.
com and it's actually not corefrom Corey.
It's core of just your center,your core relationship.

(49:25):
And so corerelationship.
com, there's.
a couple dozen blog articlesI've written.
There's a page about the book.
There's kind of my approach tocoaching.
And so that's, really the thing.
And also, the books everywhereonline, you can always ask a
book store to order it.
And I like bookshop.
org where you can just, youknow, Dedicate whatever Amazon

(49:49):
cut would have been.
And it just goes to an actualbookstore that you cherish.
I love that.
I love to get all my books fromthere too.
That's a great reminder foreveryone.
As we are closing out the showtoday, what one last piece of
advice or inspiration would youlike to leave with us?
You can learn to call up thebest part of you in a moment.

(50:14):
And now we have another podcast.
Okay, so we have to elaborate.
I love that, and that'sbeautiful.
Elaborate on the how, besidesgoing and buying your book,
because that definitely is goingto do it.
Well, just the practice of soulstatements.
They're connecting to yourcenter.
The best part of you, the mostempowered.

(50:35):
the most optimistic part of you,you can remind yourself, Oh, I'm
made of, good stuff.
And so, and then the next rightaction is just more obvious when
you're connected to Oh, this iswhy and what and who I am.
Your value.

(50:56):
Right.
You're beautiful.
That's so amazing.
Thank you, Corey.
This has been so wonderful andso empowering for myself with
your book.
Thank you.
And today's podcast with ourcommunity, I thank you so much
for your time and your insightsand all of the accolades that
you have shared has just meantso much.
Thank you.
Oh, thank you, Jennifer.

(51:16):
Oh, you're welcome.
Well, as we say until next time,may you live an empowered life
from within.
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