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Justin Wenck (00:00):
Don't you think
there needs to be something in
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between, something that bridgesthe gap between that life that
seems so rotten and that thatseems so sought after, and that
life is that step that's theokay step, that's being okay,
and it's okay to be okay. You'regonna be the captain of your
ship. You're gonna be the one inthe driver's seat, which is what
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I want for you. So I want you tobe okay with being okay, okay,
and once you're okay with beingokay, you can then go for all
these other amazing things. Areyou ready to live a life with
enough time, money and energyhave relationships and
connections that delight you?
Are? You ready for theextraordinary life you know
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you've been missing? If so, thenthis is the place for you. I'm a
best selling author, coach,consultant and speaker who's
worked in technology for overtwo decades. I'm a leader at
transforming people andorganizations from operating in
fear, obligation and guilt torunning off joy, ease and love.
It's time for engineeringemotions and energy with me.
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Justin Wenck, PhD today, I'mtalking about it's okay to be
okay, period, end of story. Whyam I saying that? Why am I going
to do a whole show on sayingit's okay to be okay? Because
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chances are, if you're alongtime listener to this show,
first off, thank you so happy.
Hope you've already liked andsubscribed. If you're new to the
show, then also welcome and youprobably have something in
common with those that arelongtime listeners, and that's
that you want to be living thebest, most amazing life
possible. And chances are, ifyou're wanting that, you might
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currently have a life, or havebeen having an experience of
having a life that, for the mostpart, has been filled with maybe
some less than amazing stuff.
Maybe some aspects of life thathave been downright awful,
horrible, no good. Other thingsthat suck, are crappy, are no
good, or no bueno, or maybe makeyou just go, womp. Womp,
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whatever it is, I can relatewith you, if you've, you know,
heard from, heard of the bookthat you know, engineered to
love. Heard my story I've talkedabout, you know, my family, my
growing up, you know, myrelationships, my challenges,
all these kinds of things inprevious episodes and other
places. And we're not going togo into that yet. We're also not
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going to be going to the otherend, where I think many of us
like to go, which is, how do Iget from all of this garbage,
awful, horrible aspects of lifeto an incredible, most amazing,
delightful life? And there's areason why we want to get to
that. I mean, one who doesn'twant to have just the most
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phenomenal life that they haveever had. I am sure there are
some people out there I do notknow if I am going to be able to
relate to someone who has zerointerest, just like no yet we
forget that a journey is made upof steps, and often we just want
to go from the start to thefinish instantaneously. It's a
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big part of our culture. It's abig part of what we've been
habitualized to demand from fastfood to microwave ovens and hula
hoops and the Pac Man and getoff my lawn. Not trying to be
like an old grandpa, but I'mtrying to show I'm trying to get
across that we want what wewant. We want it now. Otherwise,
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why even bother wanting it? AndI think a lot of us, sometimes,
I know me especially, havegotten into the like I'm not
even going to want it. So I'mnot saying don't want it. It's
want it yet. Let's appreciatethe steps it takes to get what
we want, right? So let's takeanything that you might want,
like, maybe you've never playedthe piano and you want to be a
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decent piano player, it's goingto be really, really fucking
hard to play the piano if younever even buy a piano, and
also, if you never even try todo a lesson on the piano. So
what is this expectation ofgoing from a life filled with
challenge, of heartache, ofanxiety, depression, whatever it
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is that you're like, oh my gosh,can't it get better than this,
going straight from that to themost amazing, spectacular,
phenomenal life that others aregoing to want to emulate and
write stories about till the endof time. Don't you think there
needs to be something inbetween, something that bridges
the gap between that life thatseems so rotten and that that
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seems so sought after, and thatlife is
Unknown (04:52):
that step that's the
okay step that's being okay,
Justin Wenck (04:58):
and it's okay to
be okay. You. I used to work
with this, you know, great,great personal development
coach, Michael burnoff. He'skind of a Tony Robbins type,
great guy. I enjoy him much morethan Tony Robbins, which is why
I worked with him for many, manyyears. And he often said, okay
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is okay until it's not okay,then you know it's time to get
okay again. And I took thatoriginally as this, like, oh my
gosh, I'm not okay with beingokay. I want to I want to be
better than okay. I want to beamazing. I want to be
incredible. I want to befantastic, all these other
superlative things. And I'verecently really started to
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embrace that okay is okay, andto just be okay can be a great
step to really stabilize and beokay with because I started to
recognize this pattern of I'dwant to just have the most
amazing, phenomenal time,especially when I'd go on my my
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adventures, which starting torelease these adventure videos
called Adventure Time onYouTube. So if you go to Justin
Wenck PhD on my YouTube channel,you're going to find a playlist
called Adventure Time, and it'salready got one where went to
Carmel by the sea and Esalendown in down here in Southern
California. It's not SouthernCalifornia, but it's in
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California. It's just south ofme. And recently loaded one up.
That's me of skiing in SouthLake Tahoe in the spring, and
got one for Guatemala coming upvery soon. So definitely you
want to check that out. And I'vealways wanted these trips to
just be, oh, incredible,phenomenal, where I just have,
like, these peak experiencesthat are incredible. And often I
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would, but then I would alsohave such heartache, maybe when
things didn't go as well as Iwanted, or, like, I'd get home
and be like, kind of like, letdown the come down and like,
just like, Ah, now I'm back tomy regular life. And what's
regular life? It's not as goodas I want it to be. And for the
my most recent trip, which was aroad trip up to Oregon to go to
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a Tantra festival, my goal wasfor it to be okay. I just wanted
to be okay. Nothing thatincredible, but nothing too
horrible, just okay. And youknow what? It was okay, and it
was pretty damn enjoyable,because okay is okay, and it's
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better than bad, and in fact,it's good. So what is this like?
This okayness, I liken it to.
Here's how I think it's best tobe like, is maybe most of the
life when you know there's anexpression of like, oh, just
treading water. That's when lifeis just a struggle. Feels like
you're going to drown. It'staken a lot of effort just to
keep your head above water. Andyou're there in the water, and
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you look up and what do you see?
You see an amazing water slide.
It's like, oh, this thing looksso fucking fun. I bet it's gonna
be. Would be great to get upthere slide on down and enjoy
this. Like, oh my gosh, this isso good. And so what is what is
it that most of us have beentrying to do? It's basically
trying to get up to the top ofthat water slide, not by getting
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out of the fucking water andtaking the stairs up. It's by
trying to go back up the slidebackwards. It's a lot of effort,
and yeah, maybe you get a goodrun, but you don't have your
footing. You can't enjoy thetop. You don't even get to the
top, and you slide back rightdown, and you're drowning, and
you got to get yourself up andthen get your back to treading
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water once again. So that's whatit's like when you want to skip
from you want to skip the stepof being okay. Being okay is
it's, it's taken the ladder toget up onto dry land and letting
that become the new baseline,and just like, oh yeah, I could,
I could. I could be here a longtime. And if I want to go in the
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water, I can but it's so easy toget out. And then if I want to
go up to that, that top, thatpeak of that water slide, I can
climb up the stairs, and it canbe sustainable and enjoyable.
And I I can choose. I can chooseto go down and ride that ride,
and I'm the one that's choosing,how, when, what you know, some
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surprises might happen. Ofcourse, that's just how life is
yet, compared to, oh my gosh, Igot to get out of here by going
up the slide. It's backwards,and most of us have been living
life backwards. And that's whyI'm here to tell you that okay
is okay. Live an okay life, andagain, once you're sustained and
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stabilized that okayness, that'swhen it's time to go. For Oh,
incredible, for better, forphenomenal, for amazing, for Oh,
my goodness, this is better thanI'd even imagined. Yet savor the
steps you don't have to go fromone extreme to another, because
when you can. Have thatstability, I'm going to tell you
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that it starts to be reallyenjoyable. And then even when
things are quiet, it'senjoyable. And then when you're
having the incredibleexperiences, it's enjoyable. And
it's not going to be a big pingpong from one extreme to
another, or it might, but youremotionality is going to not be
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as back and forth, becauseyou're going to have that sort
of neutrality. You'll be able totake that and, yes, enjoy things
yet you're, you're not going tobe trying to hold on to it so
tight, because, you know, hey,no matter what, I'm going to end
up okay. And then when lifedoes, basically bring something
really challenging, really heartwrenching to you, and maybe slam
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you under the water again,you're not going to be like, Oh
my gosh, this is the worst thingever, because, you know, it's so
easy to just get back out ofthat water and be okay with
being okay. And you're going tobe the captain of your ship,
you're going to be the one inthe driver's seat, which is what
I want for you. So I want you tobe okay with being okay, okay.
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And once you're okay with beingokay, you can then go for all
these other amazing things. Justrecognize it as an amazing step
in a journey that will get youto that book that is written the
way you want it to be written,and it's going to be a story
that people are going to want totell year after year, decade
after decade, maybe for a wholelifetime, or many lifetimes.
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It's the life I want for you,it's the life I want for me, and
I want to have amazingexperiences for all of us in
this great, amazing world. Andthing is, once you start working
this with yourself, you canexpand this to how you view your
greater world. Because oftenit's like, we want the world to
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be amazing, incredible. We wanteverybody to be doing great yet.
What if it was okay? If theworld's Justin okay? Because I
think if we zoom out and stopfocusing on how horrible things
are and wanting there to benever anything horrible ever
again, then some of these big,global, political things that
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are going on and all this stuff,we go like, yeah, there's some
stuff that, yeah, that sucks. Ican that can use some work yet.
There's also some really amazingthings going on. There's some
people doing some great thingsin the world. And I guess
overall, the world is okay,and it's okay that the world is
Okay, and let's let the world beokay. And maybe the news, it's
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always telling us the world'snot okay. Maybe I don't have to
buy into that, or the socialmedia and all these people
complaining and just want to sayhow awful this group is, or that
group is, or how they're thevictim, or how they're so much
better, all that stuff. Maybethat's just a bunch of nonsense,
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a bunch of bullshit just meantto get you out of your sense of
being okay. What if you wereable to just ignore that and
just own that, the world's okayright now and I'm okay, my
world's Okay, and that's okay,and let's own that, enjoy that
for a bit. I don't know how thatlong that's gonna be, but let's
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allow that to be the baseline oflife and our world for a bit,
and then let's see from there,what are some steps that we can
take. What's the vision? Right?
Because that's one of the thingsthat I've really noticed, is
that there's not a vision.
Nobody has a vision. They havecomplaints. They have complaints
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about how this person's bad,this group is awful. They need
to not exist. They need to bedestroyed. And depending on
where you're coming from, I'msure you there's a group that's
coming to mind, yet there'sgoing to be somebody else, and
they're going to be thinking ofyou. So should you go away?
Should they go away? None of usshould go away. We're all
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valuable parts of this great,amazing experience. I liken it
to a circle. A circle is oneunified piece of geometry. Yet,
what is a circle made of? It'smade of distinct points. They're
all an equal radius from thecenter of the circle, yet
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they're part of the circle. Yetthey're also distinct individual
points. If any one pointattempted to go and be anything
else or to get rid of anotherpoint on the circle, it wouldn't
be a circle anymore. So simple,elegant, beautiful, mathematics,
geometry shows us that there canbe uniqueness and also part of a
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single, unifying oneness, awholeness, and that is what our
human experience really is allabout. So when you can allow
yourself. Be unique and beingpart of one whole that is the
whole of humanity. And there'sno need to try to change each
other or harm each other. Again,it's very important that we
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don't harm each other. Willmistakes you made, yeah, they're
going to be made because we're alittle bit more complex than
just points on a circle, and ifthat's the vision that we can
have for how we interact witheach other, for our world, and
start to come up with other coolvisions of how we would like
energy to be, how we'd likehealth care to be, how we would
like our economic system to be,right? I would like food to be
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and then we can be like, Oh,okay, things are okay now, and
they could be even better. Andthen when there's these little
problems, go, huh? Okay, wedon't have to get too hung up on
that. Let's address it, and it'saddressed in a way that gets us
to go in this direction that'sgoing to be even better than
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okay. Yet we know we can get tookay because we've experienced
it. We know it, and we embodyokay. So with that, I want you
to be okay, and I want you tosee the world is okay, and note
that this can be a great placeto rest in, as long as you want
own it. It's yours, and you canthen make it even better. So
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