Thriving in a Toxic World: Nutrition and Purpose with Life Enthusiast’s Martin Pytela

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Martin Pytela (00:00):
The range is a moving target. You know, in

(00:02):
statistics, we talk one sigma,two sigma, whatever. There's
this standard distributioncurve. So the lab is simply
telling you that you fit withinthe window where everybody else
is, which is

Unknown (00:13):
saying, because everyone else is feeling
horrible and sick, and I don'twant to be like them. I want to
be optimal. I don't want to beaverage. I want to be optimal
for me.

Justin Wenck (00:27):
Are you ready to live a life with enough time,
money and energy haverelationships and connections
that delight you? Are you readyfor the extraordinary life you
know you've been missing? If so,then this is the place for you.
I'm a best selling author,coach, consultant and speaker
who's worked in technology forover two decades. I'm a leader

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at transforming people andorganizations from operating in
fear, obligation and guilt torunning off joy, ease and love.
It's time for engineeringemotions and energy with me.
Justin Wenck, PhD, all right,today we're going to be talking
about not just living longer,not just living more

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successfully, but living better,and all the ways that maybe you
could live better. Or we'regoing to get into it because
I've got a really fantasticguest here, Martin Patel. He's a
respected functional medicineexpert, Metabolic Typing coach.
His mission is to restorevitality to you and the planet,
and he's already well on his waythere with over 12,000 clients.
Coach, since 2011 over 60,000students enrolled in his Udemy

(01:36):
courses. Martin has a wealth ofknowledge to share on topics
from healing trauma, managingstress and anxiety, emotions,
spirituality, weight loss,metabolism, longevity,
mindfulness, gut health andoverall health. So and you can
also find out more about him atlife dash enthusiast.com and
life dash enthusiast channel onYouTube. And we'll make sure you
have all the other stuff too, soyou can find them in the show

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notes. But welcome Martin, sogood to have you here coming. I
think you're, you're currentlyin Canada, right? Yes,

that's where I live. Thank you, Justin, yeah,
it's good to meet you and talkto the audience, indeed. Yeah.

And I think we're kind of talking a little bit
about how, you know, a lot ofwhat I do, what we do on this
show, is talking about, youknow, a lot of the, you know,
techniques, a lot of themindsets and a lot of the
emotional aspects of, you know,living the kind of life you want
to have, building the kind ofbusiness you want to have, so
you can have the success withthe fulfillment yet. And I've
been really learning this, andthis is like your specialties is

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that we can't ignore thephysicality what you put into
your system. It matters like itcan be like trying to drive with
the emergency brake on, youcould be, you could have the
most powerful machine, and youyou could be the best f1 driver.
But if the emergency brakes on,it's gonna, it's gonna be shit.
It's gonna run like shit, feellike shit, look like shit. So

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curious, from all of yourexperience and all this stuff.
What are like? What's like? Themain things you know that people
can do to look at, to startgoing like, something's not
something's not working. What dothey want to look at? Or maybe,
what do they not know that?
Yeah, that to you, is just like,this is the no brainer. But so
the average American, they don'tlet us use our brains, in a lot

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of ways, the marketing and allthis other stuff. Well,

you know, in in life, you need to, well, let's
try the car metaphor. So youneed to know where you're going,
right? And then you need to havethe automobile in an operating
order. And so, for example, ifyou take this automobile and
abuse the heck out of it. I'llgive you a fleet. I'll give you
a fleet of 12 pickups, and I putthem out into the field, and I

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abuse the heck out of them. Andeach one of them will break for
a different reason. In one, theengine gasket blows in another,
differential leaks in another,the wheel falls off and all of
that. And we will be discussingall of the different nuances of
how they came apart or how theybroke down. The truth is, the
guys were abusing them on theroad and they were not

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maintaining them. Yeah, that isthe common cause underneath all
of that, and that's what we havehere in this life of
industrialized Western so good,so much convenience, so much
power, and yet such a screw up,yeah, and where everything

is just very much like, we're just going to focus
on, what is the what is thesymptom and and that's it. But
we're not going to look at,well, what, what caused the
system, what was the root cause?

Yeah, I think it is the pharmaceutical industry
that has run, run off with thegeneral idea of offering people
an easy button, a push button.
Well, I think it's actuallynormal for all of us to be
energy conservers. We want theeasy right, like we don't want
to do the hard thing. And yet,in the long run, doing the hard

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thing usually pays more. Muchgreater dividends. Anyway, they
have been promising. They havebeen promising the silver
bullet. Go with me. I have thething. You just take it and your
problem is gone. But that's alie, because they are, they are
always only focusing on thesymptom that that's my story. I
was a happy nerd, and then Iwent to a dentist, and then I

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ended up with mercury amalgamfillings, and then my whole body

broke down, oh, because the mercury leaked out
or whatever, and it continues

to leak right like it's in your teeth. And
every time you choose something,a little bit of mercury gets
into solution, and it just isrelentless. It really breaks
people down, especially thosewith genetics like mine, poor
methylators, we are less able toget rid of toxins. It's about
40% of the population that'slike that. Well,

now you're now you're getting into something.
Are you saying that noteverybody is exactly the same,
and one size fits all? Are you?
Are you saying that there can besome differences from one person
to the other, and we shouldn'tall be doing the exact same
thing. And hold up. Hold up,Martin. Oh, let me illustrate.

I wear average. I would have one eye blue, one eye
brown. I would be curly on halfof my head. And I would have one
testicular and one breast andone ovary.

Yeah. What location would be where. But
yeah, yeah, that's the averagesampling, yes.

So no, we definitely are not identical.
And here's a really cool story.
Back in 1930s Western a pricewhen traveling around the world,
he was mainly interesting indentistry. That's what his he
was. But what he found is thatso long as the people lived on
their indigenous diet, they weredoing fine. They were healthy,

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no degenerative changes, andtheir teeth were awesome. As
soon as they switched to theindustrial diet, genetic
mutations started to come in,and health was declining and
lots of cavities.

So what they Yeah, the environment. The environment
matters, because it's like, dietis a big part of part of
environment.

But this say a boy is born in Switzerland in
the year 1150 Yeah, he's goingto be fed, right? Bread, aged,
cheese, sauerkraut. On Sunday,they'll kill the chicken, and in
February, they'll butcher thepig, right? That's that's the
Swiss experience. Well, a boyborn into a North African

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Bedouin tribe is going to bedrinking camel milk, eating
dates, figs and pomegranates.
He'll be on a very heavy,starchy diet, right? The kid
born to a North American Indianliving on the plains. They are
following the buffalo. They'reeating pemmican blueberries,
bear fat and buffalo meat, novegetables, no no wheat. In

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fact, when the white man showedup in on the plains with their
wheat and whiskey, it completelyblow out the nutritional or
metabolic capacity of thesenatives, right,

right? Because they had been, you know, for a
long, long time. We'll just be,you know, multi generations or
more, multi generationsoptimized for a certain type of
environment, which included the,you know, the diet and the, you
know, whatever liquid intakes,and other things like that. And
then when it's like, oh, here'ssomething completely different,
the system isn't, isn't readyfor that. Like, it's, it'd

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almost be like, we'll go, we'llreturn to the car metaphor. It's
like you got a high performancemachine that requires, you know,
the what is it? Try a differentone.

Try a different diesel engine and gasoline
engine.

Oh, even better.
Yeah,

right. High compression, high compression,
thick fluid, high temperature,or so anyway, if you put
gasoline into that engine, youjust blow it up. Whereas if you
put diesel fuel into the lowcompression, low temperature,
gasoline engine. You gum it up,it just won't run. And we have a
similar analogy here. In humans,some of us are really effective

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at converting food into energy,and others not so much. And so
the ineffective people be beneeding to be getting the
lighter fuel carbohydrates,whereas the highly efficient
people, we need to slow themdown, so we need to give them
the slow burning stuff, andthat's fat.

Okay, so I'm curious what, where, where does
somebody maybe get get startedon this journey? Because I know
myself, I've kind of been like,probably, for over five years
now, it's kind of been slowlycoming along and getting more
refined. And even Justin thelast few months, kind of had a
realization started, you know,getting, you know, at the
beginning of this year, I wentto the standard thing, got my

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physical and got the usual, theusual test from the traditional
doctor. You know, it's like, I.
Feel like crap, like I don'tsleep well, I'm getting bloated,
I'm not feeling good, and allthis stuff. And go and they run
the tests, and it's like, oh,everything's within range.
Everything's within range,right? Well, I found out
something interesting aboutthese ranges, and maybe you want

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to share what these ranges?

Well, here's the thing, the range is a moving
target. This is, you know, instatistics, we talk one sigma,
two sigma, whatever. There'sthis standard distribution
curve. So the lab is simplytelling you that you fit within
the window where everybody elseis, which

Unknown (10:35):
is insane because everyone else is feeling
horrible and sick and is like Idon't want to be, I don't want
to be like them. I want to be Iwant to be optimal. I don't want
to be average. I want to beoptimal for me. So

when you go to a regular doctor, you get the
regular American experience. Youneed to go to the irregular
doctor. So if you come visitwith Metabolic Typing Advisor
like me, you get the opportunityto take the metabolic typing
test, and it's essentially aquiz. You answer about 120
multiple choice questions, andyou get back answers to two

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questions. One, endocrinedominance regulates how you gain
weight and lose weight, and itvaries like for example, thyroid
body type like mine. I thinkyours, too, gains weight with
starch and loses weight withfat. Yeah, I've

learned the like grains, grains, potatoes can
have have issues, and so it's Imostly just try to avoid them
for the most. But yeah, you giveme the beer guts and fats. And
beer

gut is a thyroid body type effect of pushing
carbohydrates. Yeah. Now the sothat body type is kind of
slender arms, slender ankles,like you should theoretically be
able to wrap your hand aroundyour wrist. That's that's
typical for the thyroid type,slender, taller in women, all of

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the Virginia Secret models arethe thyroid tech, everyone on
them, whereas the adrenaldominant is built more like the
linebacker, deep chest, massivelimbs, like his calf is the size
of my thigh kind of thing, andthe ankle is this big. And they
make awesome weight lifters. Andin women, you see them playing

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gymnastics like they're builtstocky, like Simone Biles, if
you remember watching gymnasticsgames, she's that type. So

it sounds like getting, getting awareness of of
just these, these different waysof eating for different people,
and getting dialed in through itsounds like maybe functional
medicine or Metabolic Typing.
That can be a good a good introfor somebody to start to well

to make the point about this adrenal dominant
type, they are exactly opposite.
They gain weight with fat andlose weight on carby things. So
you put them on a keto diet,unlike you, who's getting
slimmer, they're putting onweight like it's going out of
style. If they want to get slim,they have to go on a fruit salad
and veggie salad and that sortof thing.

Yeah. And so it really is. It's about figuring
out what works best for theindividual, not just, oh, this
diet works. Supposedly, it'slike, yeah, it's just about any
diet will work for some group ofpeople. I almost, well, it's

a statistical thing, like America is really
interesting in this, in the factthat we are now a melting pot of
everything. You can have aNorwegian grandmother and an
Arabic grandfather, it's apossibility. And, oh yeah, which
side gets the upper hand right?
Is it the carbo dominantgrandfather, or is it the
protein dominant grandmotherthat's going to drive your
nutritional needs? And

it, and it could be either, either one, right? I
mean, that's the way that it'skind of work. There's no,
there's no. I remember, youknow, back in high school, it's
like, well, you have, what is itthat the two white rabbits and
one has a recessive gene, andit's like, yeah, Greg Gregor,
you could have a black rabbitfrom two white rabbits.

Yeah, yeah. Well, or you take one really black
person, one really white person,and you get going to get one
really white, one really black,and two sort of in the middle,
yeah, 32 of them, you're goingto have the whole scale, maybe
statistically, right? Yeah,

and, and, well, and then the other fun thing
about statistics is, justbecause it's like, it's, it's a
quarter of this, half this aquarter, that doesn't mean
that's how it could play out. Itcould be, you run that
experiment, everyone could beexactly all the kids could be
exactly the same, all you know,or not, or,

This is the coin toss, but the coin has 32 sides,
right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And there's, there's nothing that says you
cost toss the coin 32 times.
You're gonna get all 32 options.
You could get one option 32times in a row. There's nothing
that prevents that fromhappening. It's unlikely, but
it's still so, yeah, I like tokind of say that, like, it
doesn't matter if somethingworks 90. 9.9% of the time. But

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if it doesn't work for you, itdoesn't work for you so but if
something only works for you anddoesn't work for anyone else you
know, just do what works foryou. Now, when we're talking
about going creating publicpolicy, that's a whole other
thing, but when we're talkingabout personal health,

let's get into that. So we have this Metabolic
Typing. So one answer is yourendocrine dominance, how you
gain weight and lose weight? Ican tell you after you fill in
the questions which you are. Soif you're struggling, I can
easily show you how you couldstop struggling. And the other
part is the metabolic dominance,and that actually dictates how

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you alkalize and or acidify. Andthat's important, because if you
start alkalizing, you get uplate, you procrastinate, and if,
if you get even more alkalineout of the range, you'll get
despondent, dark moods, evendepressed, like you can totally
make yourself depressed bypushing yourself to alkaline.

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Okay, the acidic person gets upearly and is highly motivated
from the get go like they arethe go getter. Just do it.
However, as you acidify, you endup with being abrasive, no
social graces, cutting peopleoff, interrupting and if it gets

(16:21):
even further out rage, road rageis just a greater example of
cutting into traffic, right?
Yeah and yeah. So this rage,that's an externally expressed
thing, but it could be alsointernally expressed, where that
that leads to anxiety you wouldbe processing your past,
reliving what you wish youdidn't do, or wish you did do,

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or whatever, just rehashing thepast. Or some people project
themselves into the future andjust paint horrendous pictures
of all the stuff that's going togo bad.

I think what I really like appreciate about
this is that all of the thingsthat you're kind of talking
about, usually, we would justsay that, well, there's, this is
only related to very specific,you know, mental health things
and, like, yeah, maybe, youknow, okay, maybe there's needs
to be some therapy, or thereneeds to be some, you know, some
emotional regulation tools or,or, you know, like we were

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talking pharmaceuticals, or, Youknow, we need to, you know, we
need to, you know, do somepharmaceuticals, but it very
rarely, if ever, would there beany talk of, you know, there's
that. There's the hangry too, oflike, well, maybe you were just
just hungry. But this is going awhole other step through where
it's like, no, no, no. It's notjust just eating, yes or no.
It's maybe, what are you eatingand what have you been eating?

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Or when are you eating or not?
What is your physicalcharacteristics that go into
what we would usually justdescribe as like? Well, these
are just mental or emotionalchallenges happening that that
in our Western way, we like tolike, well, that's that's
separate from the physical body,the physical, you know,
chemical, biological, yeah. Sojust kind of love, love this,
this lens of how we are. We'reinterconnected. We're complex,

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interconnected systems. And youcan't just, we can't just ignore
one, one part. Well,

let's go with the hangry model. So there are four
corners of this. You can beeither overly alkaline or overly
acidic, and you have twodifferent axes. The oxidizers
are alkalized by fats, theautonomics are alkalized by
carbs. So they're each other'sopposites. So if you are a fast

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oxidizer, you wake up early inthe morning, and the longer you
don't eat, the more acidic youbecome. But the thing that fixes
your acidic dysregulation arefats and proteins. So your put
me back together. Breakfast iseggs and steak and sausage and
grease that sort of stuff. Yeah,yeah. Whereas, if you're the

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sympathetic dominant, that wouldmake you even worse. Instead,
you need to be taking carbythings like fruit salad, start
your day with a grapefruit andgraduate into apples and
bananas.

So it's like, what's what's medicine for one
person is the is the fuel to thefire, more poison for the other.

Localizer, acidify depending on what you do
and what your model is. And sothis, this Snickers bar.
Interestingly, it has some fatsin it and it also has some
sugars in it. So there it'shitting both sides right, one
foot on the gas, one foot on thebrake, and the whole thing is
going like this.

And so it's like something's happening. I don't
know if it's good, but it'shappening. We

should probably say this, you should be able to
regulate your emotions by yourfood choices. Figure yourself
out. Figure yourself out. You'llget either calmed or irritated
by this food. And so if you takefat alone, like a spoonful of
coconut oil, yeah, and wait 20minutes, it will either sedate

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you. You or make you morestimulated. If you're sedated,
you're an oxidizer. If you'restimulated, you're an autonomic
and then you test it with theopposite here. Here's a good
example. Cocktail parties wherealcohol is served, the oxidizers
are slowly becoming more acidicwith each succeeding drink, and
so they are becoming louder andmore argumentative, and they may

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even pick a physical fight, andthey cannot sleep. They just
keep going, Yeah, whereas theautonomic starts with being
jovial and friendly and justreally up, and then then gets
into oversharing, starts tellingthings that they regret later,
and finally they start cryingabout it and fall asleep. I

feel like you, you were watching me while I was I
went to college. I feel like youjust described my your
experience, yeah, because Icould never understand the angry
drunk type, because I was justlike, yeah, you just go, you
have fun, and then you're happy,and all of a sudden, and then
all of a sudden, it's not andthere's a lot of crying, and
then, like, Okay, now it's, nowyou pass out now. So

now you have defined the autonomic so that's,
that's you, right? So for you,if you want to have a sleep
after dinner, you will havecarby things. So to you, a an
one ounce of brandy or somethingscotch, is a calm me down,
right, right? That's a settlingdown thing.

And that was one bottle of scotch or brandy. Was
a one? No, one ounce, okay,

a little bit your body will easily metabolize.
About an ounce. Two ounces aredifficult. Three ounces are
dangerous, yeah,

so I'm, I'm curious, Martin, how did, how
did you get into this? What is,what was the the motivator?
How'd you find yourself in this?
Because, I mean, I maybe I'moptimistic, but I like to think
that you're, you're, you're in agood space at a good time, where
I like to think that it'sgetting easier, you're probably
starting to get some traction.
But, man, I'm sure you know, youfirst really got into it, but
it's an uphill battle to try totake the McDonald's away from

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somebody. I mean, I

was 25 just got out of university. I had
Computer Science and BusinessAdministration in my background.
Anyway, I ended up with mercuryfillings that completely broke
my body because I was unable todetoxify. That's my genetics,
yeah, and things went downhill.
And I, of course, I was fullyindoctrinated. I believed in

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doctors. I believed inprofessionals. People who have a
degree and a diploma and a whitecoat to boot, have to be
thinking ecologically, and theyhave to have my the customer
interest in their mind, firstand foremost, yeah, no, that's
not how it happened. It's abusiness, and I was a customer
and an opportunity to make somepayments on I don't know what

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the yacht or the new car,whatever it was,

yeah, and I will say that like I do. I knew, I
know there's tons of wellmeaning, you know, doctors and
medical practitioners, whatever,and sometimes even as as well
meaning, good hearted, the this,there's, there's others in the
systems that have that profitmotive, the other thing like
that. So even if you are dealingwith someone that they don't,

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they don't care about the notthe yacht, they're the most
whatever they they have otherpeople in their thing that that
do have these motivations andthings like that, and it's not
necessarily up to them. And I'vemet so many, talked to so many,
where they're just like, Yeah, Ican actually help people the way
I want to help people. Sothere's so many medical doctors,
nurses, dentists, whatever, thatthat go into these other fields,

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because then they can actuallyhelp people the way that they
know they can. Yeah, to

explain, the people are well meaning, but
they're in a system, and thesystem is actually controlled by
the insurance companies, andthey are absolutely the parties
responsible for the disasterthat we are experiencing. They
are the ones who are talkingabout performance, they are the
ones who are pushing the doctorto have six minute appointments

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instead of 30 and yeah, they arethe ones like, for example, my
own experience, right? Thingswere done not because they were
right for me, but because theywere insured.

Yeah, anyway, it's insured. You can bill and

I would get paid.
I would so ban all insurances,just all of it, everything
should be out of pocket now thatwe are actually having to think
whether it's effective. Yeah, on

it's what's interesting is I have, like,
really, I have really goodinsurance. Yet more and more, I
find that most of the stuff Iactually end up doing, I end up
being going out of network,paying out of pocket. Yeah,
anyway, it's like, the stuffthat is in network, it's like,
it's like, this isn't actuallyhelping me. This isn't actually
good. Or I don't like this. Idon't like the service, I don't

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like the experience, I don'tlike the results. And. I've also
gotten into, actually, you know,for, for some things, actually
going out of country, where itis, where it is, like, they're
based on reviews. It's, youknow, there's market rates and
things like that. Like, I got, Igot gum tissue work done in
Mexico a couple years ago. Itwas the greatest experience. So
such a good price. I got, like,you know, probably the top five

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person in Mexico for that towork on me. I

would say that the dentists in Mexico are every
bit as good as the ones on thenorth side of the border. Yeah,
and they charge you maybe a 10thof the price, yeah, because they
don't have the insurance companytelling you how much you need to
charge. Like, I don't reallywant to go too deep into the
politics, but I want to tellyou, it's the devil itself. I

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promise that it's the insurancecompany that has created the
monster of a health CIShealthcare system that we have
here now. And it's not better inCanada. If you think that
socialized medicine is good,it's not because here's, here's
what it should be. It should besingle coverage, government or

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private. I don't care, but onecoverage and multiple providers
where I, you know, when I go toa hotel, I choose among the
seven or eight that are there,and they're competing with one
another for service. Yeah, whenit comes to the health care,
they tell me which doctor, andthey tell me which hospital, and
they tell me which standard ofcare I get to experience.

So there's, there's just, there's no choice
on any level. He

took it away.
It's the most socializedcommunist, horrendous thing that
they have done under the guys offree market, okay, nothing like
that out there. I promise you.
Anything that ever helped mewith my health was cash out of
pocket. Anything that I ever didunder insurance was not a

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contribution to my well being

well because, I mean, I think there's something
about, you know, transparency,of knowing, you know what the
motivation is, what the cost isof things, because I always find
it ridiculous. Whenever I seethe the billing going back and
forth with insurance here, likejust, just a few months ago, I
did a I did a zoom, a zoomdoctor visit. It lasted like six

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minutes. I had a sty in my eye,and I I just needed the
prescription for the cream orwhatever. I'd had one before
that. They build $500 for that,that six minute video call
service, service, quote,unquote. And then my insurance
steps in and goes, whoa, whoa,whoa, whoa, that's ridiculous.

(27:37):
363, that's, that's a fairprice. And then that, you know,
that's then I have to pay thatbecause, you know, I have some
giant deductible or whatever.
And I'm like, they both arecrazy for six minutes of

yeah, if you had gone to the to a cash clinic, to
a doctor who's not in insurance,he would say, Well, it's, that's
probably about $27 Let's go,yeah, yeah. All right, yeah,
it's great. Yeah, good, yeah, ohyeah. Well, yeah. So about
health, right?

Well, so, so, so basically, you kind of, you had
your a personal health crisiswith your filling Mercury poison
and and basically, it soundslike it went from bad to worse,
because it sounds like youdidn't get the the care that
would have actually, wellimmediately started, probably to
help you out, but it actuallyprolonged your suffering. I

was seen by doctors, chiropractors, the
naturopaths and all kinds ofesoteric stuff, yeah, and and
all of these well meaningpractitioners were not asking,
what is the cause of this? Theywould simply look at the symptom
and treat it, yeah, which is theillness of this society? I'll

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give you an example, the war ondrugs. Yeah. We are chasing
entrepreneurs, the dealers whoare trying to make a buck
instead of asking, what is it inour society that young people
are so distraught, so brokenemotionally, that they're trying
to numb themselves from feelingwhat they're feeling? Yeah,

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because

it's one of those, like, if you're mostly enjoying
life, and somebody's like, Hey,do you want this? You want this,
this drug that'll, you know, forabout two and a half hours,
you're gonna feel to the moon ornothing, and then you're gonna
feel like garbage until you getyour next hit. You know, the A
reasonable person that's isgonna go like that sounds like a
horrible deal, like no thankyou. And I've been that person

(29:37):
because I was so scared of drugsmost of my life. And then I
think it was a few years ago Ihad, I was seeing someone, and
she was, like, into that. And soshe's like, Hey, do you want to
try this? Try that? And some ofthem, like, Absolutely not. And
then a couple of like, okay,fine, let's try some ketamine or
something. And I'm just kind oflike, I don't know. I'm like, I
don't get it. Like, I don'tknow, I guess, I guess it was
fun, but it's how much like, I'mjust like, No, thank you. I

(29:58):
don't want pass. Yes.

Well, you see, when you are living a purposeful
life, you don't have a need tonumb yourself, whereas when you
are indeed purposeless, let'scall it that, right? When your
life sucks, you want to make itfeel less sucky.

Yeah, right. So that's, that's you don't want to
feel or you want to feel lesssucky, and you'll don't pay
almost anything to do that, youknow, not necessarily money, but
also, like, you know, you Idon't know, thinking of just,
you know, going out and, youknow, getting drunk, and then
it's like, what it's not justwhat you paid for the alcohol,
but it's also, then there's thehangover the next day and all
these other other things thatyou've been talking about that

(30:41):
it's like, the price to pay. Andit's like, why would you Why did
you pay that price? You know,it's like, when I was younger, I
was hap I happily paid it. Butnow I'm just like, oh, no,
thanks. I got stuff. I gotimportant things. I want to do.
I want to I want to go hypetomorrow. I want to, speaking of
emotional

health, 75% of prescriptions filled in a
pharmacy are, in fact, foremotional altering either anti
anxiety or anti depression.
Yeah, let that sink in. 75% ofprescriptions filled are for
mind altering substances. It

makes sense, because it's like most of the
physical related stuff. Peopledon't really get into that until
they're they're much older inlife, whereas all these mental,
emotional things, it's like,what they kids start what age 10
or something, with some of thesevarious things, and, you know,
can take them for a lifetime. Solet me

try an example.
So birth control pillsdysregulate estrogen in women,
and the side effect isdepression, so they are on birth
control pill plus and SSRI,yeah, we try and cope with that,
yeah. Instead, they should justbe happily pregnant, barefoot
too, I

guess I I'm wondering what algorithm we're
trying we're trying to optimizefor with that, with that
statement. Oh, no, I'm justbeing

silly here. Yeah, okay, but truly Right. Like, I
remember my wife, seven monthspregnant, was about as balanced
as anything. Like she wascompletely not. Story
unperturbable, right? Couldn'tget to her. She was just cool,
chill and looked great, feltgreat. Everything was awesome.

(32:26):
Yeah?

So because, yeah, when, when we're Yeah, you know,
have our purpose when we're inalignment with our body, you
know, with our with what we'remeant to do. And that changes
over time, too. So, you know,it's like, okay, we're getting
ready to have, create and have ababy. It's like, Yeah, that
should be a happy, joyous time,if that's all in alignment. And
so let

me try a bit about nutrition again. So we
have this emotional stuff thatcan dis regulate us. I just
explained that if you are overlyacidic, you'll be riddled with
anxiety, stuck in the fight orflight stress side of things.
And if you're lacking, andthat's that's calcium drive, by
the way, so if you're lackingmagnesium, that's going to undo

(33:07):
the dominance of that, and it'svery common, because magnesium
is deficient in all of oursoils. So if you're not
supplementing nutrientnutrition, that is that way
you're suffering. Now the mostmagnesium rich food is
chlorophyll. Chlorophyll is thesame molecule as your
hemoglobin. Hemoglobin has ironat the center and chlorophyll

(33:29):
has a magnesium at the center.
Otherwise they're identical. Soif you eat a lot of green stuff,
chloraspiruna, wheatgrass,barley grass, all of that sort
of thing, right? You're going tobe balancing your body. In fact,
it's the most parasympathizingOr taking you out of fight or
flight toward rest, repair anddigest food that there is
magnesium and chlorophyll, gofigure, right? Yeah. So if you

(33:53):
find yourself nervous, and youneed to reach for those type of
foods, and you also need tofigure out what alkalizes you
and do that. So in your case,that's carbs, but if you overdo
carbs, you're going to be fat,so you'll be a fat happy

so it's about, it's about balance, ultimately,
right? Well, my individualmyself, I'm

a different type, and I could be a skinny bitch,
right? Yeah, so that's, that'spart one, part two, the
nutrition itself, right? TheIndustrial Age has given us
phenomenal powers to makethings, but design, our human
design, is actually we would dobetter on natural things, rather

(34:37):
than process things. So the theindustrial agriculture is
pushing foods to grow fast withfertilizers, so they look great,
but they're actually grown toofast. They don't have the
nutrient density that you wouldhave when you grow it slow.

Yeah, they have the look and they have the
flavor, but they don't have thesame nutrient profile that
right? So, like, a straw, likethe modern strawberry is, I
guess, dramatically different,because I was reading, I don't
know, Autobiography of a Yogi,which is a Yogananda, maybe, but
he has, he talks about, he was,like, around, like, the 1930s I

(35:16):
think that was what he was theperiod of time. And he's talking
about strawberries, and it'slike, oh, these tart, these tart
things need some, like, whippedcream. And I think to most
people today, like, wait, what astrawberry is bitter? It's like,
yeah, strawberries used to bebitter, like that you had sugar
or some sun sweet, go with them,and now you just pop it like
candy, because it is. It's beenmodified to be

selected, yeah.
The best example is a tomato.
These days, you buy a tomato, itlooks awesome. It's a beautiful
little red blob, but it's stiffand it's almost tasteless, yeah?
Like, if you take a tomato offof a thing that you grew in your
own garden, and you pick itripe, it's a very different
experience, yeah?

And that's, I think that's the to kind of go
get away from this idea of like,well, this, I've always eaten
this food. It's like, now youhaven't like, you know, even if
it's been because I thinkthere's something, I've heard
something, that even just withinthe last like, 1010, or 20
years, like, the additives thatget out of the process, like the
US allows some like, hundreds ofmore additives that they

(36:22):
basically don't even allow it inthe other part of the world. But
just our system, they can golike, Oh, in the lab, we think
this isn't going to harm people,but boom, there it is. It's in
your I saw chips or whatever. Isaw

Robert Kennedy just recently pop up and says
the Fruit Loops in Canada aredifferent. They have fewer
ingredients. The New York Timesjumps over him and says, they
don't have fewer ingredients.
They just have differentingredients. So you're wrong.
Well, the difference missing

the missing the point on that, on that stage,

you know, in Canada, they use blueberry color
and carrot color and beet colorto make the orange red and blue,
yeah, whereas in US, you havethe red number five and the blue
number two and yellow numberfour. I don't know the numbers
right chemicals, yeah,

and yeah. Like, what we've been eating isn't
necessarily what we've beeneating, and it's just, like,
gotta really read theingredients, or even, yeah, like
there's just a lot more goingon. To Be careful. Let's

go to where that the baseline is the five refined
things that kill you, refinedflour, refined sugar, refined
plant seed oils, refined saltand dairy that's been
homogenized and pasteurized.
Those are guaranteed to causeyou ill health, and yet they are
the basis of most of ournutrition, especially people on

(37:47):
food stamps, are practicallyforced to eat that because the
big agriculture has gottenthemselves some huge subsidies
on wheat, soy, corn, dairy anddairy, those are the most
subsidized foods. So pizza ishighly subsidized, of course,

(38:07):
visualizing

and it's highly delicious. It's a horrible it's
a horrible combination.

It's awesome.
Well, look at fair well, and

I live across from a Domino's Pizza. So you can
imagine when I didn't know someof this stuff, what, what was
going on

well, so visualize this right in weeds.
There actually is a substancethat is when digested and
absorbed it, it essentially islike morphine in your brain,
like it really is. It'saddictive anyway, the the
biological point, and Italian,

all the company, all the companies, know this,
right? This is, this is onlynews to to me, and some into the
people listening, watching this,but to anybody who runs a giant
multinational, you know, forprofit company, they, they know
that. They know this is, this iswhat, what's happening, right?
There's no way you don't knowthis. Yeah, yeah,

yeah, totally. I mean, if you leave me alone with
a bag of Doritos, you break itopen, you give me the first one.
Yeah, I'll, if I, if I take it,I will find some emotional
twists in my head to say, justone more, yeah, yeah, until
they're all gone. Yeah, it's,it's irresistible. But anyway,

(39:25):
going back to pizza. So pizzawas invented for Italian
farmers, right? Like, it's, it'shigh energy food. When you are
working in the fields or in theforest or whatever you're doing
physical labor, you're puttingout 456, 1000 calories a day. No
problem eating pizza. Mm, hmm.
But anyway, that there was a,there was a study done they
give, gave people two weeks toeat two satiation to

(39:49):
satisfaction, yeah, on theprocessed foods and on the
healthy foods. And at. End ofthe two weeks, they added up all
the numbers. And it was that, onaverage, people eating the
processed food consumed 500 morecalories a day. No, I believe
it, yeah, which is about a poundof fat a week.

Yeah, that's huge.
I mean, I think, I think you seeit, and I think people feel it
and and I sometimes wonder if,because it is seems so
challenging that I that it'sjust like, why even bother?
Let's just have, let's just havesome pizza. Have some toritos.
Have a have, have have somebeer.

Well, you're having the same reaction as the
let's have some cocaine or let'shave some whatever, right? Oh,
yeah, because these are, it'sthe same. Let me numb myself
with food. I mean, emotionaleating is a known concept,
right? Yeah,

yeah. And yet, it's, it's, it's worth. It's
worth because you can't just sayno, you have to replace it. It's
worth finding the replacement.
It's worth understanding what isthe what is the real medicine?
What are the foods that foods,the supplements, the behaviors
that actually let you feel good,so that you do get offered the
Doritos. Because, like you said,you said, you rarely, you'll
rarely start on the Doritobecause you know, you know where

(41:06):
it goes, just like many peopleknow where, like, the cocaine is
going to go, or the, you knowthis the shot of the whatever.
And it's like, Wait, I don't, Idon't want that. I don't want to
pay that price for for a shittyexperience, right? And so first
let's, let's get it to thepositive of like, you know,
like, yep, this the systems. Thesystem's a bit rigged. The

(41:27):
system's kind of against you,but we also have the opportunity
to opt out of that system andand start to kind of create our
own system that works for us,right?

Yeah. If your audience is people who seek peak
performance, they need to put aspotlight on what they're how
they're feeding their body.
That's that's without question.
And yeah, so once you know whatmakes you sleep better or stay
away, but stay stay awakebetter, then you can actually
choose it right, like for me,for me to calm down. I have to

(42:01):
eat a breakfast of fruit salad.
That's that's the thing. Iusually make myself a smoothie.
So my fruit salad is actuallyliquid about, yay big. It's got
blueberries and apples and bunchof green powders in it, because
that's what I use for my firstmeal of the day.

Love that. Yeah.
And I guess I'd say to, youknow, the people watching
listening to this, they might bekind of going like, Well, what
do you, you know, what do youwhat are you talking about? I
just, I just have my coffee, andthen, you know, I have my donuts
and and then, you know, I'vegot, I've just got this, this
drive. Because if I don't do, ifI don't do stuff, I don't wake
up early, I don't grind orwhatever, I'm going to be a

(42:37):
loser. I'm going to be out onthe street. I'm going to be
whatever. So it's like, I'mgoing to, yeah, I'm fine. I've
got way. I've got ways to makeit through. I have something I'd
like to say to them, but I'd becurious what you would like to
say, because I'm sure you've,I'm sure you've met these people
eventually that come to you.
That's the something was wasworking for 510, 2030, years.

(42:58):
Yeah, probably, probably, inretrospect, it probably actually
wasn't working as well as theythought. And then at some point,

well, let's go back to the automobile metaphor.
So when I bring it out from theshowroom, new tires, right?
Everything great. 50,000 mileslater, the tires are practically
bald. So on a sunny summer day,the traction is awesome, but
then it rains and you're likethis, and if it snows, you're in

(43:25):
the ditch, yeah, so you can butwhat is the event that you're
going to in your life equate tothe rainy day or the snowy day?
Well, it could be different. Itcould be any one thing, right?
The stress of life is a stringof minor problems interrupted by
the occasional catastrophe,right? So let's just say that

(43:46):
you have food poisoning thatcould take you down for months
if you're weak, right? Like,yeah, as

opposed to just like, oh, it was just 12 hours,
you know, that were really bad,and then, oh no, more or less,
yeah.

It could be, it could be life altering event, or
you have a car accident and youget mangled, if you have good
level of enzymes, and all theother things, you're going to do
fine, but if you don't, you'regoing to take months to recover.

Yeah, and, like, short of these catastrophes,
there's still a lot of this, youknow, emotional challenge
happening of, you know, eitherbeing too anxious, too
depressed, maybe too angry, toomuch of a bitch, too much of
whatever. Maybe, maybe you'reokay with, but maybe the people
in your life are not okay with.
And you know, there's

an interesting thing, Wi Fi. Wi Fi for G, and
5g in the millimeter wave. Sothat's, yeah, that's the 5g you
know, like the gigahertzfrequencies, they are actually
triggering what's known as thevoltage gated calcium channel.
So this, this vibration, isactually coming to your body,
and it is affecting your cells.
Some people are more sensitivethan than others, yeah. And. It

(44:57):
causes flooding of the cell bycalcium, and calcium is the
signaling molecule for fight orflight anxiety. Yeah. So if you
don't have some devices that aremitigating the effects, then
you're fully exposed. I remembera client, she says to me, as I'm
driving towards the downtownwhere they have the smart grid.

(45:20):
I'm feeling a wave of anxietyrising in my body. Yeah,
physically,

right, yeah. And it's, and this is one of those
things where, you know differentdifferent people have a lot of
different but still, I think themain thing is that our world has
shifted and dramatically in thelast 100 years. And I also
believe that our body isincredibly resilient and can
deal with lots of changes, yetit's how much stuff are we
putting on us that's eitherhelping us or harming us. And I

(45:52):
think we've put an unprecedentedamount of stuff into our systems
that is, let's, let's even just,let's even, you know, let's,
let's, we could even just it'sharmful or neutral, or it's
definitely not helping us. Butso sort of, like, you know, you
like, you said there's thiswireless stuff that maybe, in
isolation, our human systemswould be able to go, like, yeah,
no, I'll adapt to that. And wecould say that there's, there's

(46:14):
a benefit that we would go,that's a trade off. Like, okay,
you and me being able to talkhere over zoom, I'll take a
minor hit, but I'm gonna bebetter in all these other areas.
But when we add in all the stufffrom, you know, what we're
drinking, what we're eating,then the pollution and all this,
and then now you add this otherit's just like, No wonder, like
you said, what is it? Themajority of prescriptions are
for mental, emotional, whatever,because it's like, it's not just

(46:36):
the emergency break. It's likewe have the fucking boot on the
tire too. You know, theinteresting

part, a metaphor for the immune system could be
something like the A camel, thelast straw that broke the
camel's back, right? And themainstream pharmaceutical,
medical, they like to isolatethings. They will say, Well, did
my thing break you? And ofcourse, statistically, not
necessarily. But here's what youdo. You're loading up the camel

(47:02):
with loads, and the cameldoesn't care one bit what's in
that 25 pound bag that you justadded. And you keep adding right
at 200 pounds, the camel's Okay.
300 pounds, No more running. 400pounds, no more uphill. 500
pounds, meals down and sayswe're done. Yeah. So that's what
happens to us as we go right,like we keep wearing, we keep

(47:23):
adding to the load, and at somepoint it's over,

yeah? And it really is the, you know, what
we're putting into our systemsday after day, yeah, what we're
feeling is going to have thesome of the biggest, the biggest
impact on Yeah, on weight, onhow our joints feel, on, you
know, our mood and all thesethings, and to just, yeah, it's
an important part of overallhealth, well being and

(47:50):
longevity. Because I think I canget like, why some people would
be like, I don't. Why would Ieven want to live to age 100
like, it's already so shittynow, and it doesn't have to be
that way. It doesn't have to bethat way.

Well, happiness, we know, is found in a pursuit
of where they go. So you need tohave something to live for. I
mean, if, if at 80, you decidethat there's nothing useful
coming, then you may as wellunplug it. Yeah, and

I, for the longest time, I was like, I don't
exactly, what am I? What am Ihere for? What am I what? And to
me, one of the biggest thingsthat helped was just like, my
purpose can be exploring what mypurpose is. That that can be,
that can be a great purpose foras like, as like, Well, I would
just want to, I want to be ableto try stuff out. So maybe
that's I want to try. These areall things I've actually done. I

(48:37):
want to try massage school. Iwant to try yoga teaching, you
know, what like, you know, tryacting or what you know, it's
like, but maybe you don't likeit, but it's like, hey, if I'm
healthy and feeling good, andthen I can try the next thing
and the next thing, and that canbe and then eventually, I think
we all do finally hit the thingof like, oh, this is my, this is
my, this is my real thing,right?

Well, most, most times, things are found in
service to others, right?
Whatever it is. I mean, we are acollaborative species, right?
Even, even as an architect, I'mdesigning a house for someone.
Even as a I don't knowdishwasher, I'm cleaning the
dishes for someone. It's, it'salways doing for others, yeah.

(49:18):
So even I don't know, if youdon't know what to do, just go
try wash some floors somewhere.

Is, you know, at the very least you end up with
some clean floors and some asense of accomplishment, yeah,
and a sense that the world isdifferent. This world has
shifted because of somethingthat that was done, and most
people's work isn't like thatanymore. And I think that's,
that's one of the things, isthat that tangible, like
something has shifted. And I'm,I'm really grateful to, you

(49:49):
know, have this chance to talkto you and see how you're you've
been shifting people. And I youknow, you, you're prolific. You
got so many videos on YouTubeand posts and things like. That.
And I, I, I just, I just loveit. I think you're, you're an
inspiration, and also a been abenefit with putting this stuff

(50:09):
out, that a lot of it's notpopular, even though it's
getting more popular. But, youknow, trying to tell people, you
know, eat this, not that like,because food some bit of
religion in some ways, and soI'm glad you're doing the good
work. Any any last, any lastthoughts, or anything you want
to leave people with, vote

with your wallet whenever you make a purchase,
decision, decision, you'rebuying something. Whatever you
buy, that's an order to for theto the manufacturer to make more
of it. So be judicious with whatyou're buying, because when
you're feeding the unworthy, theones that are poisoning you or
making you sicker, you'reactually digging your own grave

(50:51):
with your fork, so to speak.
Just think about Yeah, so

they wouldn't make this stuff if we didn't, if we
didn't buy it. Yeah? But thecon, the cons, the other is
true, is, yeah, you know, eventhough we didn't get into the or
debate about organic, but, youknow, there's more organic stuff
because more people buy into,right? Yeah, we can debate, you
know, how good, and all that,blah, blah, blah. But things,

(51:18):
things have shifted. Things willcontinue to shift as we get as
we get more educated, and westart choosing things like that.
So I love that. I think that's agreat, empowering thing. Yeah,
make

it clear and specific. Things that are smelly
with industrial artificialfragrances are bad for you.
Don't buy them. Don't consumethem. Make judicious decisions
about the stuff you put on yourbody, whether it's shampoo or
makeup or whatever, whatever youput on gets through. If your
lipstick is beautiful because ithas lead in it, you're poisoning

(51:52):
yourself with

it. Yeah, and even

Yeah. Well, just an example, water, right? This
water is in a glass bottle andhas never been in plastic. Why?
Because BPA leeches into waterand causes dysregulation of your
hormonal system. So when you gobuy a bottle that's in plastic,
that bottle sat on a trucksomewhere out there in sunshine,

(52:19):
in heat, yep, and it got closeto cooking. Okay, so that
plastic has leached into thatwater, into that water. Do not
buy plastic bottles.

Unknown (52:31):
Easy glass, so convenient. Bring

it from home, and by the way, put, put some of
these. See these little rocks init? That's called the crystal
Pearl we sell that that's awater structuring device that
makes the water better hydratorthan otherwise. Little things
like that. There's so many.

There's so many amazing, fun things you can get
to when you start to make yourhealth a focus that and then,
and then, The great thing is,you end up feeling better, and
then you get more excited. And,yeah, so, so Martin, I know we
want people to go to life dashenthusiast com to find out more
info about you and yourservices, products, things like

(53:11):
that. And also, you have yourYouTube channel with lots, lots
of great videos. It's at at lifedash enthusiast. And then I know
you're also on Facebook,Instagram, x, and we'll make
sure we have, because you havebecause you have various things
for that, we'll make sure we getthat in the show notes, any
anything else that you want tomake sure people don't don't
miss.

We do offer an individual consultation. When
you call at life enthusiast, youactually get your questions
answered. This is not someanonymous buying on Amazon where
you click and you get stuff sentto you, we actually will take
the time and energy to help youunderstand what you should get
and why. I

would highly recommend that, because this is
one of those that for mostpeople, it's you're it's so
wrecked that you just doanything different. It's gonna
it's gonna benefit. And I knowMartin and the people you work
with, it's, it's going to beit's going to be great, and it's
so much easier with anotherperson, with some human to help
you out, to guide you throughthis. Because it is, it is

(54:10):
complicated, but, I mean, it'snot, it doesn't have to be
complicated. It can be easy. Itcan be simple, and you can feel
good faster. And so this, thisepisode will be coming out right
before Christmas. So I'd say,check that out sooner, even get
started before the new year, ormaybe get that that appointment
set, so that you start the newyear off, right? Because you
don't need to wake up, you know,January 1 feeling, you know,

(54:32):
super fat and hungover and allthis stuff. It doesn't that you
can start the new year offfeeling great and feeling
awesome. And that's how I'mgoing to start it up. And I'm
sure Martin, that's how you'regonna start it off, too, right?
Feeling good. Yeah. Many thanks.
Yeah, thanks, Martin. Thanks somuch. And thanks to everybody
listening. Thank you and goodday. Thanks for tuning in to
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