ET! Throwback: From Powerpuff Girls to Ballers: Nostalgia and Tough Video Game Bosses

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hello, Welcome To Entertain this, a podcast about

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movies, TV shows and video games.
This is episode 21.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
We're finally legal age.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
We can drink now and I'm Hayden With me.
I have Mitch and Tom.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
You okay.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
It's a.
You don't have your inhaler.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Be careful, it's like a rubber chicken, got like a
ran over Squeakers from ToyStory 3.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
We broke the Mitch trend of being punished last
week.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
Finally.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
With me being punished.
So there is no justice in thisworld, because Tom is owed At
least six weeks in a row.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
I think that sounds fair.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
I got punished by watching Powerpuff Girls the
movie.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
How was it?

Speaker 3 (01:25):
It was all right, how was it?

Speaker 1 (01:26):
Buttercup, it was all right, bubbles.
So I guess it was like anorigin story based off of the TV
show that came out after the TVshow and from what I read, they
tried to like make it so peoplecould.
I guess parents would enjoy theshow like the kids would, and
the thing is is that I don't seethat happening.

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As a parent, you did not enjoyit.
I mean, I remember watching theshow when I was a kid.
It was like 98 when it came out.
Yeah, it was the late 90s.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
It aired with Dexter's Laboratory and all that
.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Yeah, it was the last Hanna-Barbera cartoon, like
sanctioned Hanna barbara,because, uh, the the hannah guy
was a died yeah, it was over atthat point, and then cartoon
network went through some likeuh reconstruction at that point
yeah, they changed the logo from, like you know, where it said
cartoon network and thealternating black and white

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colors.
That I remember.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Yeah, but the last good kind of cartoons to just
crap, crap now yeah well, I mean, there was like cartoon network
, that format, and then, liketoonami, would come on
afterwards that was it and ithad like the spaceship and like
the guy with like the helmet andlike the robot dude and it's
just like yeah so like theytalked about, because craig
mccracken, which is a cool lastname, that is a a cool name but

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he created the show.
He actually did shorts for itback in 92 and got picked up
from Caltech to Hanna-Barbera todo Powerpuff Girls and I guess
it was more an adult cartoonwhen he conceived it and then
when he made the show and stuff,they they obviously scaled down

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for kids and everything.
Um, and it changed drasticallyafter 9-11.
Like is it before 9-11?
it was like skyscrapers beingdestroyed and stuff like that
you know, all sorts of stuff,and then in the movie they
actually had that um skyscrapersbeing destroyed, sometimes by

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the powerpuff girls themselves,and uh, the uh uh, I think roper
ebert roger ebert and ropert.
They reviewed it and saidthere's too many similarities
for a kid's movie with 9-11, allthat kind of stuff.
It's a kid's movie it's acartoon.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
Whatever they don't have fingers, it's a cartoon of
super powered people fighting.
I don't know they make thatjoke like like what are those?
Like things at the edge at theend of your hand, and the guy's
like fingers because they don'thave.
It's just like a you know asmooth nub, but they could just
pick stuff up at home, howholding guns floating in the air
or something I don't know.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
But uh, pick stuff up at home, how holding guns
floating in the air, something Idon't know.
But uh, so gee it, uh it it didall right, you know it.
Well, actually, it it cost 11million to make and for the
movie, yeah, wow, and yeah, itcost it.
I, I have some questions, butuh, yeah, it only made 16.4 in
box office, so it was considereda failure because it needs to

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make 22 in order to break even.
But it was 73 minutes long andit just felt like a really long
episode of Powerpuff Girls.
But everything that happened,you knew it was going to happen
because, I don't know, everybodyknows the powerpuff girls are

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made from sugar, spice andeverything nice and chemical and
chemical x professor.
But uh, you know they.
They spent 30 minutesexplaining all that, which is in
the first five seconds of theintro to the powerpuff girls
theme song isn't it like an hourand a half movie?

Speaker 3 (05:03):
73 minutes okay, yeah , just just just clarifying why,
well, because if they spent 30minutes on that, and if it's
only an hour and a half and it'stook 11 million, just three
episodes cost 73 minutes.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
It's it's an hour and 13 minutes long yeah, yeah,
roughly, but I mean featurelength is technically supposed
to be 90 minutes, but it's acartoon, but would three
episodes cost $11 million tomake?

Speaker 3 (05:27):
No, no, not even close, I mean.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
I guess they probably spent a lot of money.
I don't know where they wouldspend all that money at.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
That's the same voice actor right yeah At that time
cartoon movies were kind ofbecoming the big thing because
Rugrats did the movie and thatwas big.
I think Wild Thornberries didone, did they really?
Yeah, I think it was just kindof like oh, we're gonna do a
Powerpuff Girls movie too butusually get in on that gravy
train.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
When you have a cartoon show that breaks out
enough to have a feature film,they get, like some A-list
celebrities, to do voices likethe.
The Twilight, not Twilight.
My Little Pony had what's hername from A Quiet Place.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
Emily Blunt Emily.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
Blunt, she was in that movie and stuff like that,
but no, it was just all thevoice actors from the show.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
Might be weird to replace all the voices with
actors.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
No, they didn't Like.
For the my Little Pony movie,they brought in a special new
character just to have this.
You know a list celebrity be apart of it.
I didn't do anything like that.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
Sean Connery to like play the mayor.
Powerpuff girls.
This monkey is destroying thecity well, so anyways, the, the.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
The plot is the girls are created and Professor
Utonium is trying to get them,like you know, acclimated to a
normal life, and they play, tagand destroy all of Townsville.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
So they do the opposite of their design.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
Yeah and like it's funny because the mayor doesn't
care that the town's beingdestroyed until his pickle stand
gets destroyed.
And so he goes to their house,the Professor Utonium, and he
holds out pictures of littlechalk outlines for pickles on
the ground and stuff like thatand he's like you know, look at
all the travesty they've created.
You're the little terroristsand stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
My pickles His pickles.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
Yeah, that's the only thing he cares about.
But I mean, yeah, yeah, I cansee it, it's pretty cool.
So, like, yeah, it was, youknow, pretty lengthy Because,
like, after they play tag, MojoJojo becomes powerful enough to
Well, no, he convinces the girlsto help him build his secret
lair, which is on top of avolcano in the middle of this

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town, by the way.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
Volcano in the middle of town, okay.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
And once he builds it he gets a bunch of Chemical X,
abducts a bunch of monkeys fromthe zoo Thousands of monkeys
it's a big zoo, I guess and thengives them Chemical X so they
become smart.
And then this monkeyinfestation takes over
Townsville and then thePowerpuff Girls beat them all up
.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
So this is like the kids' Powerpuff Girl crossover
with Planet of the Apes.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
They did make a lot of Planet of the Apes references
.
It was kind of funny Becauseone of the girls is like get
your hands off of them.
You dang dirty ape.
They want to go apes together.
Strong.
They did, you know, say mojojojo's did say I am now the king

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of the planet of the apes.
So you know there's stuff likethat, but anyways, uh, there's
some adult references, like oneof the monkeys is a baboon and
he gets in this giant baboonmech suit and he's a big shiny
red butt?
no, no, he has a cannon for abutt and his metal hand would
reach back there and grab bombsthat come out of the butt and

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throw them at the Powerpuff.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Girls.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
So I'm watching this with my kids and my wife Me and
my wife just look at each other.
You know stuff like that.
There's a couple situationswhere we're like, whoa kids,
don't look, you know stuff likethat.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
There's a couple situations where like whoa, but
uh whoa, kids don't look.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
Yeah, that's too late , don't get any ideas uh, but
you know, this movie, uh helped,blossomed for a lack of a
better term.
There's a thing for that, isn'tit?
Oh yeah, another thing, I don'tknow, we don't.
We might have a, but uh,they're there, lauren Faust she

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was storyboard artist for thismovie.
She ended up doing my LittlePony and Foster's Home for
imaginary imaginary friends andstuff like that.
So, like you know, this spawneda bunch of uh, big time
cartoons that kind of picked offand took.
It took off and so you know Iwouldn't say it's like a
worthless movie and it wasn'thorrible.

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I'm not great.
I'm not happy that I watched it.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
I'm not it's not your new weekend.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
Kids enjoy it uh, my daughter didn't, my 11 year old
daughter.
She was like this is weird theyhave hands, yeah but my son
thought it was funny whenever,honestly, for the movie there
was less, not a lot of action,it was.
There was hardly any fightscenes, like I think maybe at
the very end there was a fightscene and uh, but like when they

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were just running aroundbeating the crap out of all
these monkeys, he was crackingup like crazy.
So that was the one part heliked that part girls beating up
monkeys.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
Super smart, advanced monkeys.
Yeah, he's like that.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Yeah, he's laughing, but, like you know, as far as
like animation or so, they mighthave some cg and stuff here and
there, but I don't really knowwhy it was enjoyed it yeah, I
don't know why it was $11million, so I gave it a five.
I could care less if it everexisted.
And you know I'm not likemiserable for watching it, so

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right down the middle.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
It's a thing.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
You know your kids probably won't like it because
surprisingly enough, it's notADD.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
I would say it's not dumbed down like today's
cartoons, it's not as quick astoday.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
What's funny is I was reading some of the production
notes and Craig McCracken, thecreator for it, said that
Cartoon Network actually wantedthem to produce a more adult
version of the Powerpuff Girlsto help cater to more of the
adult audience.
And then Cartoon Network wentunder the regime change and they
told no.
So for the hundredth time, yeah,so uh, yeah, it would have been

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completely different for themovie.
Instead, now it's just like agiant episode, and he talked
about his creative process.
He said, basically we wrote anepisode and then made it 73
minutes long and I was like,yeah it makes sense there's a
lot of just like montages andstuff you know, just to fill
time.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
Well, you can solve anything with an 80s montage.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
In this case an early 2000s montage.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
Yeah, I feel like kids'.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
Cartoons today are just dumbed down.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
Because my year and a half old, my
year-and-a-half-old niece wasover at my house the other day
and they had the TV on and I wasjust sitting there.
I was like this is like torture.
Is this what the CIA plays topeople?
I'm like this is horrible.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
A lot of kids' shows nowadays, unless it's like a
certain niche of things it'sjust like random acts of
violence.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
There's not even random acts of violence anymore.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
Well, it's not even like full-on violence like tom
and jerry, it's just like stupidstuff, like you know he, you
know they slam the door and ithits him in the face or
something like that.
It's like I don't know.
Yeah, well, okay, so there'slike different age groups of
kids, shows and like uh, likethe show that my daughter
watches now is shiro the, themodern one, you know, not the
crappy one that you got punishedwith, but um the uh, and
there's some violence and stuffhere and there, but it's very
like, I wouldn't say like epic,but it's like, you know, like

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there's reason behind it.
It's not like Tom and Jerry orsomething like that Mindless
nonsense.
But shows definitely don't haveany attempt at appealing to an
adult audience.
You know like, uh, the extras,laboratory and stuff like that.
There's any window and thingsthat that, were an adult, would
watch and be like laughing for acompletely different reason

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than a kid would.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
I don't know if that's better or worse.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
I mean, I'm not.
I'm not too familiar with thatkind of production stuff, but uh
, maybe it's just time for thekids to watch TV and me to go
mow the lawn, or something likethat.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
That's what they really did.
It's just an excuse for you tobe like I'm not going to watch
this.
I'm going to go find somethingelse to do.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
Probably I do like shows that the family can watch
together and enjoy together.
There's very few shows that arelike that, though nowadays Very
much so.
Alright, well, there you go.
There's my punishment review.
You sound?
There's my punishment review.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
You sound so happy done.
Hey, at least it was a movie,it wasn't a video game.
It wasn't soda drinker pro noit wasn't samurai cop.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
No, samurai cop felt like hours that movie was
awesome just hours of watching.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
This felt long for 73 minutes, but it ended so
samurai cop was awesome justbecause I got to watch you react
to it as you watched it.
I'm getting nauseous Sometimesthat's the best part.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
It's just like this movie is so bad, but someone
else suffering and you enjoyingit is what makes it funny.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
He was so miserable.
It was funny All right, thereyou go.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
Punishment review done.
Mitch plug that social stuff.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
Plug it, macho man.
Randy Savage Savage.

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It's like on Monday NightFootball.
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Thanks for explaining the rules.

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Football's not like soccer, okay.

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There's not a lot of times a foot and the ball are
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I think you recorded the second one we won, I don't
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Call of Duty who participate and those who don't.
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Start working.
There's 50-something of you to70-something of you that look at
every post.
Somebody comment.

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Like the people that drive by a car accident and they
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See a family burning in the car and go oh well,
that's not my problem.

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The 10 of you who jumped out and helped.
Thank you, the rest of you.
What I don't get?

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You just got to click once youlook at it, you looked.
You saw, Just click random Sure.

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Speaker 1 (17:30):
yeah all right, there is our intro to include social
and twitch and the punishmentreview.
Let's move on TV news andreviews today.
No, and I watched.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
I reviewed the movie or the TV show Ballers.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
Why are you talking like that?

Speaker 3 (17:58):
Because y'all are making funny voices, so I
figured I'd join in.
All right, ballers, ballers.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
This is about a People with balls, and they
juggle them.
I was trying to think ofsomething more clever.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
This isn't that kind of show.

Speaker 3 (18:15):
Anyways, it's an HBO show that had the rock John
Washington, which is DenzelWashington's son.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
We talked about this guy.
There were like three episodesfor Tenet because he's the main
dude in Tenet.
Not once did we ever mention hewas Denzel Washington.
I did some research on him andI kept seeing pictures of him
with Denzel Washington and I waslike, oh cool, he's got like a,
he's got like a mentor orsomething, and I never put it
together John Washington, denzel.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
Washington.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
And so I googled it and he John Washington.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
Denzel Washington, and so I Google it he's his
father.
The math equations are left infront of your face.

Speaker 3 (18:50):
This means something that makes sense now, okay, but
the Rock plays this former NFLplayer who becomes, like, the
finance manager of these players.
He's probably two years removedfrom leaving the NFL.
Okay, well, you find out now,he's probably two years removed
from leaving the NFL.
Okay, well, you find out nowhe's he's in some money trouble
and somehow he becomes thefinance manager just because of

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his connections with otherplayers.
Uh, rob, how do you say courtCordry?

Speaker 1 (19:19):
the bald dude from hot tub time machine.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
Yeah, yeah he, uh, he's the, the guy that hires the
rock to be his uh assistant inthis.
What are you doing?

Speaker 1 (19:28):
the structural integrity of this chair I'm
calling into question if youfall out, that'll be your new
intro on a loop forever but, uh,anyways, he hires the rock to
be his assistant in this financemanager position.

Speaker 3 (19:42):
Well, they go on like John Washington is a made-up
star called Ricky Jarrett, whichthis all takes place in what
you know is the real world.
They just introduce thesecouple other players for the
show, right, but it revolvesaround, you see, people like
Antonio Brown, deshaun Jackson,which I know?
These names mean nothing to me.
Is Antonio Brown like as?

Speaker 2 (20:01):
batshit crazy as he is now.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
I know I said it, but uh, no, this was like 2015.
I liked it, but uh, I mean,they just they go on and there's
a lot of crazy stuff that yousee that you would expect these
NFL players to probably spendmoney on this stupid stuff, like
riding a camel into a trainingday.

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Are there OTAs for?

Speaker 2 (20:33):
training.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
So it's funny to see the rocks parallel between
theirs.
He knows oh yeah, you can spendall this money on the clubs and
stuff.
There's one instance where thisguy spends a million dollars on
one role in Vegas and when heloses it his friend just falls
down.
So I mean, it's pretty.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
And like people are surprised that they're broke and
they're out of the NFL.
And that's what he's living inlike a car, like two years later
.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
Yeah, that's what the Rock's character and Rob's
character is trying to influenceon these people.
Rob's character is trying toinfluence on these people.
It's like you know this moneydoesn't last forever.
Invest it in something that's alot better.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
Like million-dollar rolls in Vegas.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
Well, there's something to be said about these
like podunk kids that come outof like crappy places in America
and then they're just thrustedinto the top 1% of the economy
and they don't know what asix-figure bank account looks
like, let alone a seven-figurebank account.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
Or making seven figures a year, if not more.

Speaker 3 (21:29):
In the very first episode, the Rock has this quote
that he tells some of the otherplayers Don't put your money in
anything that depreciates Cars,houses, women, women.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
Just ask Antonio Rodgers-Cromartie, yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:44):
He tries to influence on these people not to do these
things and at the same time theRock, like throughout this
series he's dealing with likepain management because from his
time in the NFL he's racked uplike migraines and like back and
hip issues and stuff and so hekind of has this addiction to
pain pills because he refuses toacknowledge that he needs to
have corrective surgeries andstuff done.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
So it is the whole like chewing vikin and like a
skittles thing.

Speaker 3 (22:08):
Yeah and then, without going too much into it,
I don't want to reveal too much,but you know he's got his
friends that are always, youknow, getting new contracts from
different players, getting newoffers throughout the season,
stuff to be traded or whatever,and it's pretty good.
It's seeing the, the other sideof nfl sports, or like what,
what the effects are after inthe nfl for some of these

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players, because I mean, it'snot a show I thought I would
have been interested in, eventhough I like football and even
even brandon or even yeah I'vebeen.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
He watches it at work and so I, you know, when I'm
not busy, I watch it too andit's actually not that bad.
It's kind of fascinating howcrazy people can be.
The episode where, like,they're trying to get one dude
to sign to their agency orwhatever so they can represent
them financially uh they, theybasically need to cater to
whatever his whim is to try andhelp him win, you know, sign.

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And he decides that he's like,needs a man's pet or something
like that.
So they go and they try to.
They go to the zoo to try andbuy him like a lion or a tiger,
or and he decides that he needsa man's pet or something like
that, so they go to the zoo totry and buy him a lion or a
tiger or something like that.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
No, he wants a friend , an animal, a lifelong
companion and his best friendsays he needs a man's pet so he
goes behind his back to buy himsomething.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
Right and he gets an alpaca on accident.
That's what they could end upgetting is a llama.

Speaker 3 (23:22):
Yeah, they went to this exotic zoo and everything's
been alpacas yeah well, or anexotic animal at the zoo they
already had, like they had likepanthers and elephants, and all
these people were like, oh well,these are already been claimed
by these other players.
So he's like this is what wegot left, so yeah it's, it's
goofy stuff like that.
It's it's they take a lot ofstuff serious, which is, I mean,

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some of this stuff is prettyserious.
You know things to happen inthe world, but then they throw
this little comedic spin on itwith little little instances
here and there, which makes avery enjoyable show yeah, it's
funny, I enjoyed it.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
I didn't think I would I I actually enjoyed it
I'd probably give it like aseven, yeah I mean, I don't know
, I might rate it higher, justMaybe 7.5.
Just because I do not like thatsubject matter.
Yeah you don't like sports.
Pretty fast and it's not a lotabout sports, it's mostly about
just money.

Speaker 3 (24:12):
Yeah, the money side of everything I would say very
rarely Of people who areemployed.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
It's like if Wall Street was funny, like the movie
Wall Street was funny it wouldbe like that.
It'd be funny, it'd be likethat.

Speaker 3 (24:22):
I mean a lot of times you just see them practicing.
It's kind of like a BlueMountain State you never
actually see them play a game?

Speaker 2 (24:28):
Are they taking actual teams?

Speaker 3 (24:31):
Yeah, it's all real life.
And then they just add in threeor four quote-unquote players
that are for the show.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
It's set in Miami and a lot of it's about some
players who play for theDolphins.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
Yeah, all right.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
Cool.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
Move on to my news.
Amazon is going to have a TVseries about Fallout.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (24:53):
They said that they're not sure exactly what
the subject matter will be.
Because they said they're notsure Bethesda knows what Fallout
is supposed to be.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
That's fair, because it changes so much All right,
I've known that there's beentalks of a TV show for Fallout
for a long time and I think thatif you're going to do a video
game, live action adaptation.
A TV show is probably the bestway to go about it.
Because, when they write forvideo games, they basically they

(25:28):
basically have a tv show'sworth of material that can
expound, seasons worth, and,yeah, some games, and that they
can expound for as much as youwant to, and you can cut away as
much as you need to, and to dothat for a movie it's pretty
stupid.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
But for a tv show, though, you can you can
streamline that well, thesegames have too much plot to make
it into one movie.

Speaker 3 (25:41):
Yeah, that's what I was fixing to say For a game
like this.
There's so much in it that youwould need more time than just
an hour and a half two hours toexplain what's going on.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
Do you know who's got the rights to make the TV show?

Speaker 3 (25:51):
I just know it's Amazon.
Okay, amazon, okay, yeah, we'llsee they've announced it but,
like I said, they don't.
They don't really have a wholelot of uh info on what's going
to be, who's going to be in it,or anything getting pretty big
on this, some making tv showswell, they want to be.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
They want, I mean they're.
What's the biggest show theygot right now?

Speaker 3 (26:11):
grand tour man well, that's not even going anymore.
They have, they have the jackryan show, they have probably
jack ryan is the biggest one,I'd say what's the?
Oh, the Boys, the Boys and thenthere's some other show where I
can't remember where it is, butshe's like putting in some kind
of red content like Homelanderor Homeland or something like
that.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
My wife and her friends are obsessed with that
marvelous Miss Mabel show.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
Oh, that show.
Yeah, that show's pretty funny.
I didn't know that was on there.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
Yeah, so, yeah, it's got some shows.
I think it has a lot thatstrike out.
There's some that I can't eventhink of right now.
But yeah, Fallout.
Yeah, Bethesda not knowing whatit is, that's probably a good
point.
I guess Bethesda would haveprobably creative control over
how the show is to beinterpreted in live action.

(27:00):
I wouldn't just which, honestly, I don't know if that's a good
idea.
I mean, typically, I would belike the source material needs
to be created and controlled bythe source guy, but Bethesda has
screwed up Fallout.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
Fallout 76?
Yeah, look at you.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
You know Fallout wasn't originally a Bethesda IP.
It was.
I can't remember the name ofthe company, but it was those
old isometric DOS games.
Well, it wasn't DOS, I don'tthink, but it was for PC until
Fallout 3.
Fallout 3 was the firstBethesda.

Speaker 3 (27:32):
And also I found out for Netflix Stranger Things.
They said you know, we haveseason four coming out, supposed
to be later on this year.
They've resumed filming for it.
Um, they said they.
I think they said they'd gottentwo weeks into filming before
everything got shut down.
Well, now they're saying thatthey're going to do this season
and they said that there's apossibility they're probably
going to add at least one moreseason and that'll be the final

(27:53):
one I think it's about time forthat show to wrap up they said
that originally they had writtenit for three seasons and then
they moved it to four.
Well, now they're saying thatmore than likely it's, it's
going to go to a fifth season,if you uh the the creators of
the show have online.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
You can review their their pitch packet that they
took to netflix and stuff likethat and all the materials they
had.
The show was called somethingelse back back in the day, um,
before they got picked up and itwas made for just one season, I
think originally.
Yeah, I don't know if they everplanned it going any further
than that, but uh, yeah, it'spretty cool just to see you know

(28:30):
what it was in its origin.
So cool, all right.
Well, I guess that does it fora tv show right well, I was
gonna.

Speaker 3 (28:41):
I was going to say on Netflix, the show the Order is
supposed to come out on the 10th.
So if anybody wants to discussthat after this episode airs, we
can discuss that on Facebookabout the Netflix show See what
people think, because it'll beout by the time this airs.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
When you said the Order, I'm just picturing a dude
trying to order something atMcDonald's.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
My bad and Dan, not the order what's?
The one with Shirley Stairn.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
Oh, I talked about that, the old guard.

Speaker 3 (29:09):
The old guard, yes, the old guard comes out July
10th.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
Yeah, this episode will be airing after that.
We'll go live after that.

Speaker 3 (29:16):
So they'll have a little bit of time to talk about
it.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
You can tell us what you think?

Speaker 1 (29:23):
about it.
There you go, yeah, yeah, allright, cool.
That does it for TV shows, tom.
Hello, what have you for us?

Speaker 2 (29:30):
Nothing, oh okay, moving on, all right For my
review.
I watched Guns Akimbo, a 2019New Zealand film starring Daniel
Radcliffe.

Speaker 3 (29:41):
On drugs.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
Yeah, well, on his inhaler.
Yeah, he was definitely notDaniel Sadcliffe, he was Daniel
Radcliffe.
He was pretty rad yeah.
That was where I was going togo with that joke.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
We all watched this movie.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
I did not know.
You guys saw it until earlierwhen I told you this was my
review and you're like we bothsaw it.
I was like oh, yeah, all right.
It's all right it was.
I mean it was okay, I liked it.
It's kind of goofy it was goofy, it was a little silly, little
video game humor you know, Ithink it was what I expected it
to be.
When I looked at the you knowthe picture for the movie like a

(30:15):
little description.
And just crazy, daniel radcliffedaniel out of his mind cliff
with these two guns.
And then I was watching themovie.
I was like, oh, they surgicallyimplanted.
So for those of you who don'tknow what this movie is about
without pulling a spoilers,mcgee Daniel Radcliffe plays a
loser His life sucks.
He's an online internet trollwho trolls, trolls, and there's

(30:37):
this other group called Schism,who basically do murder-death
battles and stream it and beable to love it because that's
what the people want to see.
They're following around withdrones and there's these
interesting characters and theydo little video game pop-up
stuff on the people watching it.
They cut to the same group ofpeople watching this the whole
time and this is over days, yeah.

(30:58):
The guys are wearing the samestuff.
They're at the same place, justknew like oh my god looking at
the phones and cheering andgetting drunk and what have?

Speaker 1 (31:06):
that was kind of funny cuz like did cut to random
people watching it and they'dbe like the goofiest yeah
there's like some guys at a bar.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
There's another dude just like by himself at a bar,
then there's like four dudes ina locker room just wearing
underwear yeah like what's goingevery time they cut it, never
address.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
Like the.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
Like the guy's just like sitting there and the other
dude's just behind him gettingdressed the entire movie.
It never happens.
I'm sorry to spoil that.
He never puts clothes on.

Speaker 3 (31:29):
Well, what I don't understand is, if they're, this
is all.
All these people know about it,all these people see it online.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
Yeah, trying to find these people, but they're like
one step ahead.
So, danny, he goes onto theirwebsite in the beginning of the
movie, trolls the people onthere, and then the admin people
are just like hey, you'retalking nonsense.
And he's like I get out of here.
They send him his IP addressand he's like huh, any, close
his laptop, like that'll solvethat.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
Yeah, he's just kind of like forgets about it.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
Yeah, so they show up at his house, drug him, him,
knock him out surgically,implant two 1911s into his hands
and an ammo counter, because hehas 50 rounds for both, which?
Is a lot, which is ridiculousbecause a 1911 holds seven.

Speaker 3 (32:11):
There's some kind of little blocky thing at the
bottom.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
I'm assuming, holds the rest of the ammo and some
very intricately designedmagazine.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
I like the ammo counter.
It was kind of like ScottPilgrim in certain circumstances
.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
Something like that, like Hardcore Henry.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
Yeah, it had an anime cutaway where he would shoot a
guy and the ammo counter wouldpop up off the screen and stuff
like that.
So it was pretty fun.
The art and nuance of all thatwas pretty cool.
Uh, you know, I think like whenit tried to take itself
seriously it was it never.
Should have it never tried sothere's some, and maybe there

(32:52):
was some message I think they'retrying to say something about
like people are obsessed withsocial media or entertainment or
something, because he makes ajoke about it where he's like
going down the.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
He's like this is the first time I haven't been
walking around without staringat my phone.
He's like everything looks soHD yeah.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
Well then you have the woman that's hunting the
entire time.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
Samara Weaving yeah.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
She looks like a cavewoman without those eyebrows
and she does so much drugs.
That's the thing.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
Yeah, she's just doing cocaine off of guns All
the entire movie.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
She's like shouldn't you OD by now?
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
Did you look in the production of this movie?

Speaker 2 (33:29):
No I didn't.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
I watched this movie several hours ago.
I think they've been trying tomake this movie for years.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
There was some controversy about it when I was
scrolling through its Wikipediapage, but they made it anyway.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
Okay, what is the controversy?
Yeah, I don't remember.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
All right, there was a tab that said controversy.
It was like a paragraph.
I read it at like 3 o'clock inthe morning and then I just
started watching the movie.
All right, well, hey, maybewe'll.
I was not, you know,controversed while I was
watching this.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
But there's a picture of daniel radcliffe and like
the the fuzzy slippers and theirbathrobe looking crazy with his
guns, and that that that waslike three years before that
movie came out.
So I wonder what happened withall that.
I don't know.
Maybe we'll look it up.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
I did find it pretty hilarious when he, when he first
gets the guns and he's tryingto figure out how to put clothes
on, or he's trying to pee, yeahand he and he's like don't
shoot your dick off.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
Don't shoot your dick off and he's just going
everywhere.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
Yeah that's funny.
He's wearing his little tigerprint underwear and his big
fuzzy tiger slippers.
What would you rate?
It.
I'd give it a 6.5 out of 10.
Yeah, it's worth a watch.
It's fun.
It's a fun movie, yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
I'd watch it.
It's a fun movie.
It doesn't have a whole lot ofreplay value.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
It's on Amazon For free For Prime members, so check
it out.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
Yeah, cool, what news .

Speaker 2 (34:52):
Apparently, sylvester Stallone is up to something
with Rocky IV Director's Cut.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
All right, everybody's getting their
director's cut.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
Yeah, Apparently it's supposed to be, as he said,
amazing and spectacular andeverybody's like what?

Speaker 1 (35:03):
are you going to do?

Speaker 2 (35:04):
And he's just like shh, don't worry about it.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
Did he direct it?

Speaker 2 (35:07):
I don't think he did.
Did he direct Rocky IV I?

Speaker 1 (35:09):
don't think so.
Does he direct?
Yeah, he does.
Okay, he's one of those guyswho also pull and he's basically
the director, just withoutbeing listed as one.

(35:30):
Yeah, but if I look reallyquickly, I believe he might have
, because he didn't direct thefirst one.
What rocky four is?
Uh?
No, he didn't.
He wrote the first one.
Rocky four is yeah, he directedrocky four the, the one who
fights ivan drago.
I have a drago, yeah I almostsaid cal Drogo Crossover.
I saw it once.
I've seen that movie once.
That movie is just like soAmerica Cold War.
Usa.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
But it's also like the best Rocky movie.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
I bet you what it is is he's going to have some
scenes where he sees ApolloCreed's son and has some sort of
crossover.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
Heart to heart, foreshadowing in the future.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
It's going to be like George Lucas kind of stuff.
This meant something SylvesterStallone's thinking 20 years
from now when people want to dotheir Rocky Marathon, their
annual Rocky Marathon, orwhatever.
There needs to be a little bitof continuity.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
You know breaching uh bridging of uh rocky and creed,
so you know I know he wasn'tgoing to do a rock five
director's cut because rockyfive was trash well, I also will
say, since the ivan drug, whichis four, I think creed two is
probably the best one since then, just because it it brought I
have a dragon back in and mayberocky belt, though wasn't bad
well, yeah, but but the this onegave more of a credence.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
You know it.
You had a drago's son fight uhcreed, and then you had, you
know, ivan drago's there youkind of?
Had the animosity between himand rocky, and then you had the
animosity between the other twofighting, so it was was stallone
in the second one.
Yeah, okay, all right yeah,he's worn in a creed.
You know you shouldn't fightthis guy because he has no
reputation.

(37:09):
He's just this big hulkingmonster that comes out of russia
to fight all of a sudden, thethe creed sequels are really
good.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
I never thought that they would be that good yeah and
it's just a genius idea tobasically take the idea of Rocky
to a younger generation.

Speaker 3 (37:24):
Better generation.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
Sure, that's what you meant.
Let's not go there.

Speaker 3 (37:28):
Let's not get crazy here, okay, boomer.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
But I'm hoping Rocky IV is going to be 80s nostalgia,
just because that movie's prime80s, the 80s montage to work
out.
Ivan Drago's working out at,like the state-of-the-art gym
you know he's running up amountain in the snow in a
leather jacket with a beard,lifting up a you know a cart
full of rocks while Hart's onfire blasts and he grabs the

(37:54):
picture off the mirror and he'slike they're punching uh cows in
a locker, in a meat locker heyrock.
Look a pork in the meat.
So there's that that mighthappen.
Um godzilla versus kong,delayed to may 2021 all right.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
Um, I forgot the movie was coming out.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
I did not I did see it still, though, and it's, you
know godzilla's standing there.
You know the spikes are glowingblue because he's going to do
the.
You know, the cool nuclear firestuff on kong, and kong is like
the exact same height asgodzilla, so he's continuing to
grow, so he has continued togrown, but he looks like he's
holding like a battle axe, andI'm like he's broken down the
the statue of liberty and readyto swing no, he has like this,

(38:36):
like weird it looks.
Uh, remember when they had likethe weird-looking Godzilla that
had the lava, but the spikeswere different and
jaggedy-looking.
Yeah, I know it looks like that, wedged into his stick to make
a big battle axe, and Kong'sjust about to swing it and
uppercut him into next year.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
Why not?

Speaker 2 (38:52):
Which he did, because this is coming out in May 2021,
apparently.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
So I guess that shot connected.
But I'm like like that's notfair.
He's using tools.
Godzilla doesn't use tools.
He's got opposable thumbs for areason there was a, he's got
four of them.
There was a joke about that inpowerpuff girls.
You know, mojo-jojo like sayslike I'm gonna press you, press
you under my thumb if you don'toppose, or something like that.

(39:18):
I was like we get, get it he'syour monkey.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
I want there to be a scene in this movie where, like
Godzilla's like doing the thingand just like a big old pile of
poop.

Speaker 3 (39:29):
It's in the face.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
It's just like radioactive poop, and then uh
that's.
That's it for that movie.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
I got one more, though there's an upcoming movie
called Greenland featuring uhGer.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
Movie called Greenland featuring Gerard
Butler disaster movie does ittake place in Greenland?
It might apparently because Isaw the trailer.
Uh, he's in America.
Apparently they're trying toescape to Greenland because
there's a super undergroundbunker to protect humanity,
because big meteoroids are justhitting the Earth and causing,
you know, global destruction andI was I saw the trailer and

(39:59):
somebody was watching it and Iwas like this Aerosmith you know
, have something to do with this, michael Bay breaks and finally
gets into the bunker.
They open the door and Aerosmithstanding there ready to play
it's like we're sending you guysin the space to blow these
things up first.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
If the drill to the center of the earth.
I read somewhere thatGreenland's like one of the
safest places in the world ifthere's ever a global
catastrophe, like pandemics, forinstance, and stuff like that,
because it's such a landlocked.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
I think the population is less than a
million.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
And for a country called Greenland it's kind of
tongue-in-cheek because it'smostly ice.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
Well, here's your history.
When they discovered Iceland,they discovered Greenland
shortly after, and I don'tremember everything, but
essentially Iceland was wherepeople wanted to go.
It was the new.
It was before no, I think itwas after they discovered the

(40:59):
new world.
But anyways, the guy whodiscovered it decided Greenland
would sell better if he calledit Greenland.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
I remember at Iceland it's just Team Iceland, the bad
guys from the second MightyDucks movie.
Those kids were good hockeyplayers, though All right.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
well, that's all I got.
Cool Gerard Butler movie.
Maybe it's another.
Greenland has fallen, who knows.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
Maybe this movie will come out this year.
Maybe, who knows?

Speaker 1 (41:27):
Well, I had video games Games, and I played a
video game called Zelda Link'sAwakening.

Speaker 3 (41:34):
Who would have guessed you'd play something
like that?
You don't care, move on.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
That's hurtful.
I have a lot of talk about thisgame.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
You don't care about Godzilla vs Kong.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
I said I forgot about that movie.
You haven't even seen it.
All right, Link's Awakeningit's a remake of the original
Game Boy one that came out inlike 92.
And then no, 93.
And then in 98 came out Link'sAwakening DX.
Yeah, it was amazing because itwas colored.

(42:03):
Yeah, for the Game Boy Color.
And in 2019 they came out witha $60 switch video game.
So this game, is it worth 60bucks?
Probably not.

Speaker 3 (42:18):
Banking on that one story, but it sold really well.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
It sold 4.38 million uh million copies um so good as
breath of the wild.

Speaker 3 (42:26):
No but uh so there's nothing is as good as breath of
the.
They're just banking on thatzelda name I mean, it was fun
game.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
I'm, I'm, I don't regret buying.
Did it play the same way asbreath of the wild?
No it, it's a top-downold-school Zelda game.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
Oh yeah, I want to play that.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
It's 2020.
Well, I mean, what's cool is,if you played the Game Boy One,
the nostalgia is still there.
But they do things like they'vemade it to widescreen ratio and
stuff like that.
And the old-school Zelda gamewas built around how many tiles
they could fit in each frame.
One tile is one input of movingdirection for Link.

(43:07):
So, they had to change all themechanics for that.
Usually, when Link goes fromone side of the screen to the
other side of the screen, thewhole screen has to transition
and load up the next one.
Now he just scrawls across.
There's no weird transitioningbetween the screens and stuff
like that for most of the cases.

Speaker 3 (43:24):
It only took them 20 years to make it that way.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
Well, they took them 20 years to decide that we
should make this game again.
The art is pretty cool.
It's a diorama, what theycalled a retro-modern look, so
the best way to describe it islike you know the cloth,
toy-looking Yoshi story stuffthey have for those new games

(43:49):
coming out.
It's kind of like that.
It has a little bit morerealism.
Link is described as aplasticine like looks like Woody
from Toy Story, so it lookslike a 1990s.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
McDonald's toy.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
Yeah, but his character has little bushy
eyebrows move, but he has theseblack beady eyes and stuff like
that.

Speaker 3 (44:08):
So you know it's fun.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
It's a cute little way to make the game and instead
of looking directly straightdown on a level, it's got a tilt
shift so you can see a lot ofdepth of field into, uh, objects
and stuff like that.
And they changed a lot ofthings like the physics of the
items.
Instead of it, just like youkill a bad guy and a rupee drops
to the ground, now like ifsomething touches the rupee,

(44:34):
it'll brush, it'll move around,it'll.
You know, heart containers willfall over, um, things like that
Interesting.
It's very subtle little redosto it.
The biggest change to the gameis probably this dungeon creator
thing.
So basically, when you beat adungeon, you get all the rooms

(44:58):
in a dungeon that go to thiscreator level where you go and
you make your own dungeon and ifyou beat it you make a really
hard.
And if you beat it, you knowyou make a really hard dungeon,
you beat it, you get stuff forthat, basically to make more
dungeons.
And then I I think they'retrying to make it like mario
maker where you can post on it,because they did say like, um,
the guy who made zelda, the veryhappy japanese guy, what's's

(45:18):
his name, you know, I don'tremember his name.
But he basically let the guywho directed the remake of this
say, okay, cool, do somethinglike Mario Maker.
And originally they were goingto make it so you could design
each tile, each object,everything in the dungeon, but
they decided it was way toocomplicated.

(45:38):
So instead now you justbasically can plug and play
rooms and it's pretty simple.
I played with it just a littlebit.
I was more like I want to goback and venture in and stuff
like that.
Yeah, it's fun, it's a hardgame.
I forgot how hard that game was.
Some of the puzzles you just Imean there was no Google back

(46:00):
then and I beat the game, but itprobably took me forever.
I remember being freaking madat this game.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
Is it like you playing this now, getting mad
and about to Google, and thenyour son or daughter?

Speaker 1 (46:09):
comes in and figures it out in like two seconds.
No, they're not as good at thisgame as I am.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
Plus, it's like I like the smirk you had, but it's
a different thing.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
They've never played a game where you look at a whole
map and you walk.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
They don't get it Like me, and you would be like,
yeah, remember that boy Color.
They don't know that kind ofstuff.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
They're like what button's the jump button?
And I'm like you don't jumpunless you equip the feather.
I'm like that's dumb, you know.
So they don't get stuff likegame.
I don't think it's worth $60.
I think it'd be worth $30 to$40.
Somewhere around there it'ssold a ton Switch games don't

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ever go down in price.
Whatever they have, if it sellswell, they're going to keep it
that way, breath of the Wild isstill $80?
.
If you want to get everything,yeah that game came out four
years ago.
Yeah, all the DLCs.
The thing that really pisses meoff is these Amiibo things.
Yes, if I really like a game, Iwant to do everything in the

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game.
I want everything unlocked.
But you can't get everythingunless you buy these little
action figures that has thecoding on the bottom of it that
you've got to enter and scan,right, yeah, well, you got to
put it on the controller andthen it like recognizes it and
says, okay, now that this is inthe game and you can mess with
it.
Yeah, I mean they're coolaction figures but like some of
them, they they only release acertain amount, so they could be

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like 120 bucks for an actionfigure you know that happens,
you put in there, not, not, notspending that kind of money.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
Yeah, I don't think they did.
Well, I know skyrim, they theuh master swords in there the
shield and then the shirt orwhatever.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
Yeah, if you put I don't know if you need the
amiibo for that or not, do you?
I don't think you need theamiibo.
I think you find it, so allright.
Well, I give the game an eight.
I would be.

Speaker 2 (47:58):
I mean, there's no flaws in the game is that eight
more like a nostalgic.
Yes, it's entirely nostalgic.

Speaker 1 (48:04):
If I had not played the original one, I probably
wouldn't rate it as high, butit's purely my nostalgia talking
.
It would be a lot higher if itwas cheaper.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
Yeah, give me like a $20 Switch game where they redid
Star Fox 64.
Dude, that would be awesome.
That would be a great game.

Speaker 3 (48:22):
I've never played that one.
I've seen people play it and itlooked interesting, but I just
didn't have an N64.
Amazing game.

Speaker 1 (48:27):
Well, I think Nintendo is picking up a lot of
what people are putting down forremakes, because that did sell
very well, probably way morethan they thought it would.

Speaker 3 (48:41):
And they didn't put a lot of work into it.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
Yeah, they redesigned all the levels, but the music
is still kind of synthesized.
There's a couple ofinstrumental stuff here and
there, but for the most part youcan tell it's some dude with a
mixing board and stuff like thatmaking things All right.
Well, there's my review.
My news is, guess what we justtalked about expensive video

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games In the next gen games aregoing to cost $70.
That's right, not made out ofmoney.
Nba 2K is confirmed to be $70.

Speaker 3 (49:16):
I'm not buying that game.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
Well, nobody is, but everybody is saying, okay, well,
it's finally happening andapparently a lot of people said
it was supposed to happen in2013,.
But then mobile games came outand became more of a market.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
Flappy bird yeah, I still have that on my phone.
You do.
Yeah, isn't that?

Speaker 1 (49:35):
worth like a ton of money.
No, not anymore, oh, okay.
Well, anyways, mobile gamescame out and so the console game
market decided to hold off fora generation on upping the price
from $60 to $70.
So usually it's every threegenerations, I think, they raise

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the price.
They do it to try and adjustfor inflation, because
originally video games were $40,you know.

Speaker 3 (50:03):
Nintendo games.
What you're saying is, we needto buy all the Xbox One games
that transfer over right now.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
I don't think that.
Oh yeah, I guess, so buy.

Speaker 3 (50:14):
Cyberpunk for Xbox One, and then just let it
transfer over.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
I don't know if it'll do that or not.
I haven't addressed any of theconsole generational games or
anything like that.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
Like a sports game costing $70.
It's like nobody's going toplay.
That I mean people are going tobuy it.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
Yeah, they are.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
It's like buying a Madden game every year.
What's the point A?

Speaker 1 (50:34):
lot of people said okay, the reason why there was
so much loot, crates and smallstuff to buy and video games
like.
I guess at one point you couldspend real dollars to give a
basketball player a haircut anduh, and one of these nba 2g, I
don't know.
That's.
That's what the report said andpeople would like got furious

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about that kind of stuff.
Well, the developers said we'reundercharging for these video
games, so whatever, we cannickel and dime out of you after
that point.

Speaker 3 (51:06):
Undercharging.
If you make the game wellenough, people will buy it and
have plenty of money yeah likeDestiny is a free game.

Speaker 1 (51:14):
now, I mean you can't play.

Speaker 3 (51:17):
Four years later.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
Yes, but you can't play as well as other people who
pay for the season pass.
Same with Warzone, I guess,technically, if you were just an
amazing player, you could winjust as much in Warzone.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
If you're a good Warzone player, all you really
need is the M4 and the MP5.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
There's plenty of free games out there that make
their money and are playable asfree, and maybe that's the
future.
Maybe all these crappy sportsgames that just constantly just
do a jersey update for each yearand charge you the full price
of a video game.
That's hopefully going to goaway.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
But I mean the old ones do that in updates they
just roster to guys who retired,got traded.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
So then why would they have a new game?

Speaker 3 (52:02):
come new game, come out the next new yeah, pretty
much duh well that's what Ibought one of the maddens more
recently, like within the lastcouple years like madden 25 or
whatever yeah, well, I have theea.
I do like the ea pass theyearly pass because for five
bucks you have it for, I don'tthink, the year really and it's
reasonable I think.
Uh, the most recent Madden thatcame out last year became

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available for free through theEA Pass, I think a month or two
ago and I downloaded it for free, so why pay for it?
Because there's a new one that'sgoing to come out this year.
Every year they come out.

Speaker 1 (52:33):
But subscription stuff is really starting to
scare me.
I'm getting concerned that thefuture is you no longer pay for
a video game and have it andthen whatever comes out for
updates and stuff like thatyou've paid for already.
The future is you want to playDestiny 6, subscribe to the

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Destiny channel and then youknow $15 a month and you can
play as much Destiny as you wantto, but by the end of the year
you're spending $200 for a videogame.
That might be the future.

Speaker 3 (53:07):
You don't just get this one game, you get their
whole library.

Speaker 1 (53:11):
Yeah, it makes sense now, but I wonder if that's the
beginning or the end when?

Speaker 2 (53:15):
I bought a game, I put it in my gaming console and
then I could just play it.
I didn't have to download stuffoff the bat.
I didn't have to install itinto the damn thing.
I took the disc and put it inmy PS2.

Speaker 1 (53:28):
That's twice.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
It's not a curse word and I could just play Dragon.

Speaker 3 (53:35):
Ball Z.
I would just go click.
Well, that's what kills me.
Now you can either download itoff the Xbox Store or you can
buy a game and still have todownload it.
It doesn't only why?

Speaker 2 (53:45):
yeah, it doesn't make sense well, I actually been
downloading the game bit becauseI don't have to get up and
drive to game stop and buy it.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
I did a lot of research into, uh, you know,
like the game development fortheir marketing.
Uh, because of why the gameincreased and they said they
shortened the price and thennickel and dime in the future.
And they also talked about theyalso release all these
undeveloped games and like, forinstance, anthem, the game was

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barely playable when it came out, if not.
A lot of people said there wasgame-breaking issues and stuff
like that and it's because thepublishers pushed the developers
to make the game and hit thathard date of release and then
have them continue their crunchtime to pump out updates after
the game is released.

Speaker 3 (54:34):
I've played that because it's on the EA thing and
it's kind of like Destiny.
It's all right to play byyourself, but it'd be a lot more
fun with more people.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
But that's the future .
Future games is just like hey,get it out there, let everybody
buy it and then fix it later.
I think that should be illegal.

Speaker 3 (54:50):
That's why a lot of people nowadays they wait to see
how the game is before they goout and buy it.
That's like buying a car withthree of the four.
Yeah, yeah, that's just screwwith the, with the gaming six
months when we got the other onedone.
Well, it's like modern warfareI didn't buy it for like the
first month and a half, until Iknew what.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
You know what it was going to be like uh like there's
some people that make a gameand just they.
They don't even have like inthe money for their uh for the
actual production to finish thegame.
They wait until they getpre-orders to come in to hit
that that final money markbefore they like okay we have
enough now we can do the finaltouches like.

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But like there's other honorablegame companies out there that,
like cd project red for instance, they've already announced
development uh for um dlcs forthe game because they had enough
pre-order money.
So I mean that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
We made the base game .
The game is done.
It's good to go.
You guys showed a lot ofinterest with pre-orders, so
because of this, we're going totake that money and start doing
a DLC.

Speaker 1 (55:52):
Yeah, they've already talked about multiplayer DLCs
and all that other stuff in thefuture, which also helps
generate more pre-orders, morepre-orders which that makes
sense, like my money's going tomore game, yeah.
And they've made it a huge stinkout of the fact that this is
not part of the core game.
This is not what you're payingfor for the original, the
pre-orders and stuff like thatthat you get, and then the money
that you add in after the gamecomes out gives you more content

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.
You know which is like more,like, oh, you want to actually
finish the game.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
Yeah, because I don't think any of the Skyrim DLC
came out that year.
Came out way, way later.

Speaker 3 (56:29):
This rant brought to you by money-grubbing game
developers.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
It is there you go.
Money-grubbing game developers,those dastardly.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
Yeah, if you want us to stop talking crap about you.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
Why don't you send us some video games?

Speaker 2 (56:41):
Yeah, we'll review them.
We'll tell you what we think.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
Alright.
That ends our news and reviews.
Each week, we find some topicsof discussion for movies, tv
shows and video games.
We review them if we haveplayed them and reviewed them,
and we do some research intoupcoming stuff that is worth
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This is also the tired edition.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:25):
As you can see by the energy drinks and coffee.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:29):
My vat of coffee.
So, all right, cool, that is it.
Let's move on to our top 10list.
Tom, what do we do about ourtop 10 list?
What is this thing?

Speaker 2 (57:39):
I've never heard of it before this top 10 list that
we do was actually filler,because when we first did the
podcast, we would reviewmultiple movies, shows and games
.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
That's true.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
And then, because of coronavirus, we had to come up
with filler time and it's like,well, let's just do a top 10
about this.
And now it's just kind ofbecome its own entity in the
show.

Speaker 3 (58:00):
Mm top 10 about this, and now it's just kind of
become its own entity in theshow Through necessity, through
necessity.

Speaker 2 (58:05):
Maybe when things go into full swing, we'll eliminate
the top 10, or I doubt it,Because by that point we'll be
doing it longer than we did itwithout.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
Well, we have some audience feedback.

Speaker 2 (58:15):
We do get feedback, not a lot, we didn't get enough
this week to have a standaloneaudience list.

Speaker 1 (58:22):
So I don't know, if you guys stop talking to us, we
might just get rid of it.
So all right, cool all right.

Speaker 3 (58:27):
Well, we had our top 10 hardest video game bosses
this week and uh hardest is inlike or hardest is in difficulty
?
Well, it depends on howdifficult it was you're just
getting ready.

Speaker 2 (58:42):
I was like I didn't say nothing.

Speaker 3 (58:44):
Depends on whether you beat this boss or not.

Speaker 2 (58:48):
I was a little surprised Boba Fett from Shadows
of the Empire wasn't on there.
It took me 13 years to beatBoba Fett.

Speaker 3 (58:55):
I looked through a list of the top 100 and I put
the ones that I would imaginemost people had probably at
least played the game.

Speaker 2 (59:02):
I played three or four of these games.

Speaker 3 (59:08):
I played all but three of them.
We'll see how it goes, we haveour top 10.
We had about 15 of them listed.
The ones that didn't make itwere Orphan of Chaos from
Bloodborne.

Speaker 1 (59:19):
Never played it Just because a bunch of people hadn't
played it.

Speaker 3 (59:21):
Crota from Destiny yeah the original Crota.

Speaker 1 (59:24):
That was tough, but then there was the cheese that
you could kill.
Well, once you learn thepatterns, and stuff.

Speaker 3 (59:30):
It's not as hard, Plus you get leveled up as the
game goes on, Plus Gjallarhornyeah that helps yeah.
Then we had a Tyrant fromResident Evil, code Veronica.
Okay.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
Cool.

Speaker 3 (59:41):
And Alma from Ninja.

Speaker 1 (59:42):
Gaiden, alma didn't make it.
Nope, I almost voted for thatone just because I played this
in my freshman year of collegeand I beat the Ninja Gaiden game
all the way to the end, got tothis boss.
This boss has three stages andI beat the first two stages and
that final stage.
It's one of those games where,like, you spend the entire game

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learning how to play it and youget really good at it, and then
the final boss is not anythinglike the gameplay.

Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
You know it's not.
It's a completely new gameyou're all of a sudden thrust
into.
Yeah, it's like a button.

Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
Like you know, god of War would do that where, like,
like you're fighting the bossand then like a cut scene kind
of happens and you have to hitthe triangle in order to dodge
it.
It's crap like that, and uh, Ididn't.
I got so mad and it was reallyfreaking hard.

Speaker 3 (01:00:28):
I gave up on it well, anyways, we'll start the list
at number 10, which was the endfrom metal gear solid 3.
He's the little guy that's inthe ghillie suit with the sniper
rifle.

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
The old man, oh yeah do you know the easiest way to
beat this guy?
No but please enlighten me.
So he's a very old man and hedies from a heart attack in
three weeks.
So I wait three weeks, yeah, orset your console clock three
weeks in advance and he'll justbe dead.
You can just go find him andloot him and then take off.

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
That is one hell of like an engaged add-in.
It's like he dies in threeweeks you have to fight him now.

Speaker 3 (01:01:08):
It's like, or wait, yeah, or wait, and he's not
played for three weeks and thenwhen you come back, he's croaked
yeah if you play it, thoughit's, it's an epic sniper battle
because you're in the middle oflike a jungle, you have a solid
snake, you have the sniperrifle he's got a sniper rifle.
Pretty much the only way to seehim is every now and then
you'll see a glint of his sniperscope.
Do you play Solid Snake or Boss?
I don't know, I just rememberit's the main character.

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
Don't ask me.
I never played any of these.
I never played any of the MetalGear Solid.

Speaker 3 (01:01:37):
What's wrong with?

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
you.
None of my friends were into it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:42):
None of my friends were into it.
I never.
Well, none of my friends wereinto it either.
I just played a single playergame.

Speaker 3 (01:01:46):
Yeah, it's fun, but uh, it was pretty cool because
you know he either.
He would be sniping and if youdidn't see his sniper glint you
could be sitting there lookingaround and all of a sudden he'd
like stab you and run off andbefore you could get out of the
sniper scope he'd be gone.
And it was pretty good.
I think the only way I ended upbeating him is I kind of
accidentally like stepped on himas I was wondering the forest.

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
He wears a ghillie suit.

Speaker 3 (01:02:06):
Yeah and he got up and ran off and I just started
shooting as fast as I could inhis back it reminds me of a
sniper wolf from twin snakes see, I never got to that one that
was a sniper fight but it waslike a giant.

Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
You were snake and sniper wolf was on like this
long.
It was like a.
The level layout was like a,like an uppercase letter I.
So you had this hallway youcould go laterally on and then a
hallway that you would snipedown.
And then she had a hallway thatshe would send wolves literal
wolves to like flush you outfrom behind cover and then snipe

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you.
So you had to kill the wolvesand then try and kill her, and
she had instantaneous if youstepped out behind cover she'd
snipe you.

Speaker 3 (01:02:48):
Well, this guy, basically you could take two
shots and if you didn't have anyhealth packs or anything like
that, after the second shotyou're just dead and you would
see a sniper glint.
And if you didn't immediatelydodge and dive for cover, you're
getting shot.
Dive and dodge.
It'd be like blink, pow, it'slike what's that?
It was fairly difficult becausesometimes you wouldn't even see

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the rifle glint.
You'd hear a shot and be dead.
Yeah, snack.

Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
It was pretty good.

Speaker 3 (01:03:15):
Snack.
Well, I guess there's not awhole lot to that, other than he
was tough and very sneaky.
We'll move on to number 9,which is Goro from Mortal Kombat
.
Which Mortal Kombat?

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
the very first one, I think it's.
I think he's only in 2.

Speaker 3 (01:03:31):
The first ones are the second one, mortal Kombat 1
or 2.

Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
I don't think he's in 1.
Is he in 1?

Speaker 3 (01:03:36):
Goro's the forearmed.
Yeah, I think it's MortalKombat 2 okay but essentially
like he would grab you and likebeat you.
He'd grab you with his bottomarms and then just sit there and
punch you with the top arms andif you had a full bar of health
it would probably take you fromhere down to one third of your
health.

Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
In Mortal Kombat 2, Sub-Zero was the hardest one to
beat.

Speaker 3 (01:03:56):
Well, this is, You'd fight him and after you fight
him, you'd have to go fight ShaoKahn.

Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
And Goro was harder than Shao Kahn.

Speaker 3 (01:04:04):
No, I mean Shao Kahn.
They were about equal, but Gorojust had one move that could
take you down to almost dead,whereas Shao Kahn was just near
invincible.

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
I wasn't allowed to play Mortal Kombat when I was a
kid.
Oh yeah, it's too much violence.

Speaker 3 (01:04:20):
Compared to what we do now.

Speaker 2 (01:04:23):
Shoot people with a rocket in the face.

Speaker 1 (01:04:25):
Look at that car of people throw a c4 at it.
Goodbye, I'm an adult now.

Speaker 3 (01:04:28):
Violence is healthy for me, it's stress relieving,
so but uh, yeah, I mean he, youcouldn't get too close to him
playing mortal combat or hewould just start.
You know, he'd grab you andjust start punching the crap out
of you, yeah you had tobasically attack from like the
distance, and if you didn't havea character that had long
distance stuff, stuff I meanwhat a weird character.

Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
He's not from like Earth or something.

Speaker 3 (01:04:51):
No, he's from the Netherrealm, or wherever they're
.

Speaker 1 (01:04:54):
Whatever plot is that they?

Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
I played one of the newer Mortal Kombats and I had
to fight him and it was pain, itwas rough yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:05:03):
And a lot of times, like the newer games, they'll
put in a mechanic where he'll doa move and then he's exhausted
for a second, so you can get acouple of hits in before he
moves back.

Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
But back then, not in the old ones, it was like you
had to be fast yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:15):
You better get it or you ain't got it, he'd be a
great pianist, wow, or a drummer, that's true.

Speaker 3 (01:05:22):
Well, we'll move on to number eight, which is M
Bison from Street Fighter.
Ridiculous, ridiculously hard.
I never beat Bison.
I played it, but I've never.

Speaker 1 (01:05:33):
I never.
I only played Street Fighterwith friends, so I never played
the actual campaign and I wasalways the stretchy guy.
Yeah, and I remember actuallyas a kid we had a Street fire
tournament at my friend's houseand I played the stretchy guy
and I won three times in a rowand all I did I didn't know the
buttons, I just pressedeverybody at a distance.

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You just like, do that, yeah,and I just beat people from a
distance, and so they like therewas the street rule.

Speaker 2 (01:05:59):
You couldn't play a stretchy guy yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
They banned that character from the game, so I
hate the game after that.

Speaker 3 (01:06:05):
I always liked playing as a sumo wrestler
because he had that like palmstrike, you couldn't get close
to him I want to bound kick.
But if you do that againstBison, as you get close to do
that, he just kind of reachesout and shoots you with a blast.
Yeah, hook it in Spinning fist,falcon Punch.

Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
Did you ever play?
Play against bison?
Yeah, because I remember mybuddy had it on xbox or
something, or I don't think itwas xbox he had on on a console.
I remember playing it at ahouse yeah I just remember there
was an arcade one out the woods.
Okay, yeah, down the woods or inthe gutter.
He was a poor kid.
They had, like you know, thearcade, you know the joystick
and the buttons.
They had Street Fighter andthat was one of the guys like

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you could fight and it took alot of quarters to get there
that's right and see like when Iwas a kid too.

Speaker 1 (01:06:59):
I missed those games, but I remember going to an
arcade and seeing Street Fighteras an arcade game and I was
like why would I spend quartersfor that when I could just get
the game for my Super Nintendo?
And I never did that, I neverplayed that, and I know there's
big differences between thearcade game and the actual, but
it's whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:07:17):
Well, that's like our next game, which is Teenage
Mutant Ninja Turtles 2.
They had the arcade game, butthen they had the Nintendo game,
which had like eight morelevels.

Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
And you game.
But then they had the nintendogame, which had like eight more
levels and you'd have to keeppumping in quarters into your
super nintendo to keep going.

Speaker 3 (01:07:30):
Yeah, well, you get the crane and shredder, which is
, it's technically two bosses,but you fight them back to back
like you, you fight crane andthen, when you finally defeat
him, like shredder, stepsthrough the portal I remember
that and crane could like splitinto two.
Well, his bottom half wouldkick you, while his top half
would float around.

Speaker 1 (01:07:48):
So basically, darth Maul with better autonomy, you
had to go through the technodrum the whole way in order to
get to that part, right?

Speaker 3 (01:07:55):
Yeah, actually, if I think about it, you've got to
fight the rock guy to getthrough the door, to fight Crane
, to fight Shredder.

Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
It was a hard the rock guy is vaguely reminiscent
to me.

Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
I'm just like why does that sound?

Speaker 3 (01:08:06):
familiar General Throg or something like that.
He's from Dimension X.

Speaker 2 (01:08:10):
All right, my brother might have played that one.

Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
It was a.
I remember beating the Rock guyand then getting into Krang and
then I was like no, I'm done.

Speaker 3 (01:08:18):
Well, because I mean you get as the Turtles, you
essentially get three lives,lives and throughout the entire
game you get two continues.
So if you yeah, by the time youget there, you're fighting
essentially three bosses in arow and, like I said, crane, you
know his bottom half would kickyou while his top half would
float around and shoot at youafter you'd beaten him so much.
Well, then shredder comes outand he'll like, split the two,

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like into clones, and then you'd, so you'd be fighting two
shredders.
The only way you would knowwhich one's the real one is this
clones helmet would come off ifyou attacked it also like the,
the buttons for those old-schoolturtle games.

Speaker 1 (01:08:51):
Well, I mean, I'm just saying like, like the
controls, the controls were justawful.
Yeah, like, and I think thatthe problem with old-school
games is that they didn'timprove the controls.
That took advantage of the crapcontrols that make the game
more challenging Instead of itbeing challenging.
It was just trash.

Speaker 3 (01:09:14):
That was like my childhood I fought, and I fought
and I fought.
It took me years to actuallybeat that game.
How happy were you when you did.
As a kid.
You can't smoke, but you gotthe little candy cigarettes and
me and my cousin tore them upwhen we were done.

Speaker 1 (01:09:30):
Candy cigarettes, man .
What happened to those things?

Speaker 3 (01:09:34):
People didn't want bad influences anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:09:36):
Yeah, I mean it makes sense, while their parents were
smoking.
That is true, actually, youthink about it.
I never thought about it as anadult before.

Speaker 2 (01:09:50):
I remember being in places as a little kid where you
could smoke inside.
Yeah, yeah, I know eating likerelatives who are like a lot
older, but you think about itlike holding like my brother.

Speaker 1 (01:09:54):
They're going cute kid flicking ashes on a blown
smoke everywhere, and I'm justlike they probably did that to
me, I never thought about candycigarettes as an adult, though
like I I you know, you justbrought them up.
I haven't thought about them inprobably 20 years and then like
uh you know, I was like likeyeah, candy cigarettes, I miss
those.
And I'm thinking about it as anadult, like wait a minute,
people are marketing candycigarettes, tobacco to children.

Speaker 2 (01:10:12):
It's like it's like candy Coke, yeah, and all it was
was just like was Pixie Stix,yeah it was just a

Speaker 3 (01:10:19):
cylinder of like sugar.

Speaker 1 (01:10:24):
Anyways, that was one of my favorite ones.

Speaker 3 (01:10:30):
We'll move on to number six, which was the
Nameless King.
Now, I've never played DarkSouls 3, but he's the final boss
of Dark.

Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
Souls 3.
I can't imagine the final bossof a Dark Souls 3 game because I
played like two hours and Ididn't even realize.

Speaker 1 (01:10:42):
I bought a Dark Souls game for the Switch just
because I was like I want areally challenging game that'll
take me forever to beat.
It is so stupid hard.

Speaker 2 (01:10:50):
You're still in the make your character screen.
No, no, no, it's still hard.

Speaker 1 (01:10:53):
I've made the character.
The levels are so big andexpansive and the guy is just so
goofy with his attacks.
You can have a billiondifferent weapons and stuff,
which is cool, but when heswings a sword it's not like,
yeah, it's, it's, it's, he justgoes he has like forever swing

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and and, like all the bad guys,just come out of nowhere and
kill you from every place, andthen, when I made it to the
first boss, I gave up.

Speaker 3 (01:11:22):
So well, I didn't play this, but I watched it on
some some gameplay online andessentially, you know you're
this souped up night.
By the end, yeah well, thisgodlike being is like 10 feet
tall, with this spear thatstretches across the screen and
he's flying on a dragon thatfills up the screen and he's
just flying around you as you'relike, in this middle of this

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big, open arena people who beatbeat Dark Souls say the bosses
are some of the best bosses evermade.
It looked awesome, it lookedlike a cool thing, but the
gameplay-wise.

Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
They say it's hard.
Yes, but it's one of the bestgame experiences.

Speaker 2 (01:11:59):
I have never met a single person who beat a Dark
Souls game.

Speaker 3 (01:12:03):
I've only seen one line.

Speaker 1 (01:12:05):
I think we had a person that talked about it on
our Facebook group.

Speaker 3 (01:12:10):
They said they beat it Proof or it didn't happen.
I didn't see anything that saidthey beat it If you do.

Speaker 2 (01:12:16):
Dark Souls should send you some sort of medallion,
some sort of trophy a shirt.

Speaker 1 (01:12:20):
It's like climbing Everest.
Essentially, We've got to moveon.

Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
Alright number five, daniel ever played guitar hero
yes, guitar hero three yes, Ihave through the fire and the
flames, oh my god that song withlike a thousand button presses
like robots, don't have like youknow finger dexterity of that
level and hand-eye coordination,or even like the capacity to
process what you're looking atas it's coming down the guitar

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neck I could never play youbasically hold all five and just
strum it as fast as you can andhope for the best well, I could
never play using all fivebuttons, using all four.

Speaker 3 (01:12:53):
I beat this song and I was sweating afterwards.
I was like it was.
I mean, I didn't get 100,obviously, but I never got the
guitar hero hype.

Speaker 1 (01:13:03):
I think it's gonna be like furbies like we're gonna
look back at it in think it'sgoing to be like Furby's we're
going to look back at it 10years from now and be like what
were people?
Thinking.

Speaker 2 (01:13:10):
It was fun, especially if you like the music
.

Speaker 1 (01:13:12):
You know what they need to do when you're playing
this crazy level.
They need to have two-thirds ofthe way through the audio cuts
out and it's just a camera ofyou playing this plastic toy and
hearing the clacky sounds.
That's it Just so you realizehow much of an idiot you look
like.

Speaker 2 (01:13:28):
Or like an audience tackling you, yeah, like you're
opening for somebody early inthe game and somebody pegs you
in the head with a bottle andyou're trying to play with beer
in your eye.
Boo, you're like Nickelback.

Speaker 3 (01:13:37):
Boo, you stink.
At the time.
This came still, I guess, justout of high school.
So I was at home and I'd beplaying.
Well, my mom, she decided shewanted to play because she liked
some of the songs.
So she sits the thing down inher lap like a keyboard and she
just sits there and plays itlike this?

Speaker 2 (01:13:55):
I do that sometimes.
I'm like what the?
Which is weird because she'slooking at it, but registering
it differently because herhand's backwards.

Speaker 1 (01:14:07):
Yeah, but she did pretty well.

Speaker 2 (01:14:07):
But yeah, that song.
There's so many notes, soquickly.
I can't tell you how many timesI watched my brother try to
play it and then just get fed upand go right back to playing.
Hit Me With your Best Shot oneasy.

Speaker 1 (01:14:15):
I go to a friend's house and they're way better at
rock band than I will ever be,because I never owned any of
those games in my life.
They'll play some prettychallenging songs and they want
me to play with them, and I'veonly played, I think, in total
five hours of my entire life ofany of those games you know, and
so I just kind of sufferthrough um on easy mode with my

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three buttons while they allplay on legendary or whatever,
because my brother had that andI had rock band.

Speaker 3 (01:14:44):
Uh, beatles rock band yeah, yeah, I never played the
rock band once.
Well, due to time constraints,we're gonna go ahead and move on
to number four, which wasSephiroth from Kingdom Hearts.
Yeah, no, I never played that,so talk about it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:56):
Okay, well, kingdom Hearts.
I think this is Kingdom Hearts2.

Speaker 3 (01:15:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:15:02):
So Sephiroth isn't actually the final boss the game
, it's a side boss butdefinitely hardest boss of the
game.
It's a side boss but definitelythe hardest boss of the game.
So in a way that works is likeyou get, if I remember right,
you get Cloud as like a summonwhere he can like help you Like
from Final Fantasy.
Yeah, you know what KingdomHearts is right.

Speaker 3 (01:15:22):
It's.

Speaker 1 (01:15:22):
Disney and Final Fantasy crossover.

Speaker 2 (01:15:24):
Yeah, okay, you got Mickey and Goofy and at the end
you fight Walt Disney orsomething you have this guy that
has the key sword or whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:15:31):
Yeah, you've got to fight Mecha.

Speaker 1 (01:15:32):
Disney.
It's actually a prettyfascinating plot.
Somehow they made it work.

Speaker 2 (01:15:38):
It's interesting.
I've heard a lot of good thingsabout it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:41):
I never played Kingdom Hearts 3, and from what
I hear it's not that good.
But I've never played KingdomHearts 3, and from what I hear
it's not that good, but anyways,so you go and you fight
Sephiroth, and so they havehealth bars and I think it's
like 10 blocks is one health bar.
And then it's one of thosegames where if it's a red health
bar, it's got two health bars.
So once you chip away the red,there's a blue behind it.
Well, sephiroth has black, orsomething like that.

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It's like eight health bars, andhe has all these things that
can kill you in one hit.
He's.
He's insane to beat, it's it?
You basically have to have thebest stuff in the game in order
to beat him and uh oh, Iremember what it is, boss wasn't
he no, it is.
It.
It is in kingdom hearts one,and there's a hercules level
from the movie hercules andmaybe he is kingdom hearts too I

(01:16:25):
cannot remember, but anyways,you do these tournaments in an
arena and you fight the Cerberusand stuff like that.
The final boss, I believe, isSephiroth.
You get the best Keyblade inthe game if you beat him, or
something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:16:45):
There's kind of a reward for it, After you spend
days getting you know.
No, no, no.

Speaker 1 (01:16:49):
Like, if you streamline and you just blast
through the boss fight likeyou're a pro at it, it'll take
you 20 minutes.
So, yeah, it'll take you monthsto get that good.
Months Don't have time for that.
No, all right.

Speaker 3 (01:17:04):
Well, we'll go on to number three, which is General
Rom from Gears of War.
This was tough.
You're stuck on a train, oh myGod.
And then the rail.

Speaker 1 (01:17:11):
This is the first one .
Yeah, okay, then I beat thisone.

Speaker 2 (01:17:13):
Because you're up on top of a train.
There's a Troika turret upthere, I believe.
I think so, but they destroy it.
He's shooting at you with ahandheld one that he doesn't
lose.
You're running out of ammo andthere's cover which can be
destroyed, and as you'rerotating behind cover and you go
through the darkness, the krillwill attack and kill you.

Speaker 3 (01:17:34):
Yeah, just all of a sudden you've got these things
attacking you while you'rebehind the cover.
Then you have to get out, andthen he shoots you when you get
out of the cover.

Speaker 1 (01:17:39):
I vaguely remember this you can do co-op, right,
right yeah, that's the firstgears of war.

Speaker 2 (01:17:43):
That's how me and my brother beat it, yeah me and
troy me and my buddy troy webeat it, me and my friend at the
time.
He was like hey, I need you tocome over and I was like what's
going on?
He's like I got gears of warand I was like, oh cool, I was
like I haven't played that.
He's like, yeah, he's like Ijust need you to come over, like
right now, because you're goodat shooter games.
He's like we're trying, I gottabeat this guy, yeah it's.

Speaker 1 (01:18:02):
Uh, I yeah, I remember beating that game
because we bought Gears of War 1and 2 together and we beat 1.
It took us like I don't know,it wasn't that long, like two
weeks maybe.
And then we got Gears of War 2.
And, as soon as we finishedGears of War 1, we put into
Gears of War 2.
Started up played like twomissions and we were like nah.

Speaker 3 (01:18:22):
My brother and I beat 1 and we beat number 2.
And then we never played any ofthe other.

Speaker 1 (01:18:25):
Yeah, it's not doing very well.
It's tanking all of its latestIPs.

Speaker 2 (01:18:35):
Gears of War was still at a time where buying a
game like that, where you andyour friends would spend a night
or something like, that or yourwhole weekend just to co-op
through difficulty and try tobeat it, because nobody does
that really anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:18:45):
A lot of games aren't local co-op anymore.
You have to do it online Couchco op.

Speaker 2 (01:18:50):
Yeah, it was couch co-op.
Basically you were sittingthere on split screen playing it
.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:18:55):
Yeah, not very many.
That's why I think Minecraft issuch a big push nowadays.

Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
That and the Halo games.

Speaker 1 (01:19:00):
Yeah, maybe Halo will bring that kind of stuff
Actually.
Maybe Halo will bring that kindof stuff Actually.
Call of Duty has a couplethings you can do couch, so the
new Warzone.
So that's why I like it so muchis because you can do
everything in that game Allright, we'll move on to number
two, which is Senator Armstrongfrom Metal Gear Rising.
I never beat the game, so Idon't know.

Speaker 3 (01:19:17):
I beat this game.
I never played this game.
Basically, you play as Raiden,which is he's like this goofy
character in some of the othermetal gears, but in this one
he's like a cyborg ninja.
He's like a cross between, uh,solid snake and gray fox from
metal gear and basically namesand well, gray fox, was this
like a great fox, elite ninjathat could kill anything metal

(01:19:39):
gear.
Well, he moves like super solid.
I'm sorry, but he's fightinglike the big Metal Gear robots
and stuff and he has likespecial moves where, like it's
like time slows down and it'salmost like Fruit Ninja.
You see how fast you can moveand when time stops they just
fall to pieces if you've neverplayed any game from Metal Gear.

Speaker 1 (01:19:58):
You should either play Metal Gear 5, which I think
is for free right now on xboxyeah, or you should play three
three was my favorite three'sgood, but twin snakes is is my
favorite.
So twin snakes is, like the,the best push for story.
It's metal gear.
One metal gear solid one,remade.
So, um, and I don't know likewhat.

(01:20:22):
What does what kojima doesreally well with his games is he
has such like to detail withthe stupidest minor things that
you never would think would becool.

Speaker 2 (01:20:33):
That pen and that cup meant something.

Speaker 1 (01:20:36):
For instance, I remember being blown away in the
very beginning of Metal GearSolid, where I killed a guy.
I'm sneaking in to infiltratethis base.
I take his body and I stuff himin a locker and then I hide it
in a locker next to him becauseI hear somebody coming in.
The guy comes inside and heopens the locker and the body
falls on top of him.
He's like, oh like, holding thebody and freaking out.

(01:21:00):
Bob.
No, I was like, wow, theyreally thought through all that
stuff.
It was crazy.
They're really fun games andthey can be very, very
challenging well, this is a lotdifferent than most of them
because this one's like straightfighter.
Yeah, that's it.
This is an offshoot, like aspin-off it.

Speaker 3 (01:21:18):
It kind of reminds me of almost like final fantasy,
but it's not like the rpg stuff,it's just the fight scenes look
like that yeah well, you fightsenator armstrong, which you
know.
This game's a 360 game.
I'm spoiling it, sorry, but uh,you get to the end and he's
like the president of the unitedstates and uh, he comes out
dressing his suit, like you know, just like a business suit,
looking all presidential.

(01:21:39):
Yeah, you're like this robotmech samurai thing and you start
hitting him and realize thatit's doing nothing, like the
cutscene, because his skin isbasically like this organic
metal that can't be broken.
You fight this guy probably sixtimes.
You have to fight him, take allhis health away.
Well then, it's almost likeDragon Ball Z.
He powers up or whatever.
You have to fight him again.

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This isn't even my final form.
It gets to the point where,because of whatever, whatever
enhancements he has, he'spicking up like legs from, like
you know, like power rangerrobots, like that size of a leg,
just picking them up from otherrobots and swinging them at you
now he'll like hit the groundand it's like a shockwave that
you pretty much can't avoid andyou probably I think you have to

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beat him four or five times allin a row, and there's no
checkpoints.
If you lose, you start back overso it just kept going.
So it was a hard.
It was a hard boss.
Took a while to beat.
The last battle took about anhour all right and then uh
number one.
Now we'll go with uh mike tysonfrom nintendo yeah, mike tyson

(01:22:42):
mike tyson hey, I'm sorry I had,I had it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:47):
I got shot.

Speaker 1 (01:22:48):
Give me that Give me that.

Speaker 3 (01:22:53):
Did you hit the mic.
I did yes, it's a Call of Dutymic.
Hide behind it.

Speaker 1 (01:23:01):
That shows how great I am at Call of Duty.

Speaker 2 (01:23:04):
You see what I have to put up with when we play.

Speaker 1 (01:23:05):
So, like I found something interesting about this
boss fight.
They found out like six yearsago this game came out in like
the 80s.

Speaker 3 (01:23:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:23:14):
They found out like six years ago.
There's a pattern to Mike TysonLike that's how long it took
for people to figure out how tobeat this guy.
There's a guy in the audiencewho blinks or squints his eyes
or whatever, right before MikeTyson punches every time.
Somebody finally made thecorrelation between the two.

(01:23:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:23:37):
Who's?
Watching the audience whilethey play.

Speaker 1 (01:23:40):
The drop down math starts happening.
I always played punch out.
Or is it punch out?
Or knock out, punch out.
I always played punch out andis it punch out or knockout.
I always played punch out, andthen, whenever I got to Mike
Tyson, the game is over.

Speaker 3 (01:23:52):
I don't know if anybody ever no, we were
watching that YouTube video.
This is like one of thetoughest bosses.
But then we watch this guy onYouTube that beats him without
probably cuz he's been playingfor 30 years.

Speaker 1 (01:24:03):
The code maybe.

Speaker 2 (01:24:04):
I know this game came out in the 80s, like even into
the 90s, when me and my brotherwere smaller and, like you know,
video games were becoming amuch bigger thing, people still
talked about this game, yeah,and it was like there was always
like some kid, it's just like.
Oh yeah, my, my older brother,legend buddy from high school,
you know he beat mike tyson andpunch out and it's he didn't,

(01:24:24):
and it's like get out of here,you blockhead.
You don't know nothing aboutanything.
Let me see your Pokemon cardsthough.

Speaker 1 (01:24:33):
You want to play Pogs ?

Speaker 3 (01:24:34):
But you know, the list just goes to show you that,
even though there's new gamesand new developments and all
this stuff, some of the oldestgames are still some of the
hardest.

Speaker 1 (01:24:42):
Yeah, because you know Nintendo's half.
Would you say that it takesadvantage of the crappy controls
?

Speaker 3 (01:24:49):
Oh, without a doubt, but that's part of what makes it
hard.

Speaker 1 (01:24:54):
I mean because sometimes he just starts
punching and you just put yourcontroller down because you know
there's nothing you can do.

Speaker 2 (01:24:57):
It's like fighting Mike Tyson in real life you just
give up.
You just stand there and takeit.
And you don't have to take itfor long, because that first one
is going to knock you the hellout, right?

Speaker 1 (01:25:07):
Cool.
Well, there's our top ten list.
We will announce another topten list on our Facebook and
social medias here shortly.
Maybe this time you'll beinclined to comment and vote.
Please do be inclined so we canhave more people like you
commenting and talking about ourlisting here, Like, for

(01:25:28):
instance, Mitch.
Did you by any chance get somenames written down for this list
?

Speaker 3 (01:25:33):
I do, I have.
Let's see, we have my brotherTodd.

Speaker 1 (01:25:38):
Who do you vote for?

Speaker 3 (01:25:40):
Both of them voted for Senator Armstrong, like me.
Okay, let's see.

Speaker 2 (01:25:43):
Sounds like nepotism.

Speaker 3 (01:25:44):
We had Joshua that I used to work with.
He voted for Sepiroth, like yougood man and then we had uh uh
chris and uh cody.
Chris, I know from a workfriend and cody you know cody
bear?

Speaker 1 (01:25:57):
yeah, that guy the room.
What do you?
What do they vote for?

Speaker 3 (01:26:02):
they both had uh mike tyson oh yeah, we had a mark
they won yeah, we had mark forname for the nameless king yeah
we had a quote-unquote walteryeah for uh, through the fire
and the flames.

Speaker 1 (01:26:13):
And then, you know, we had tom for hey, if you want
25, why don't you share 10people to our facebook group?
We've announced that andnobody's done it it's's free
money.

Speaker 3 (01:26:24):
I'm just saying.

Speaker 1 (01:26:25):
Also, if you want a pen, Yep, they're there.
Comment I want a pen on ourFacebook group and we'll send
you one.

Speaker 3 (01:26:35):
First one to do it.

Speaker 1 (01:26:36):
Yeah, we'll even pay for shipping.
What do you think about that?
All right, that does our topten list.
Let us know what you want us totalk about next week.

Speaker 2 (01:26:43):
Now we move on to our favorite session of the segment
of the show, the most stressfulpart of the show, not for you,
but for us.

Speaker 3 (01:26:50):
Alright, go for it.
I had my one week vacationmaybe.

Speaker 2 (01:26:58):
I hate you.
I hate you all.
Mitch punished by Hayden Movie.
I hate you all.

Speaker 1 (01:27:04):
Alright.

Speaker 2 (01:27:06):
The streak continues.

Speaker 3 (01:27:07):
I just want to punish somebody one time.

Speaker 1 (01:27:09):
You're not allowed to .

Speaker 2 (01:27:11):
The wheel hath decided your fate.

Speaker 1 (01:27:13):
Your punishment is Titanic, the cartoon I hate you.
Can you pull up?

Speaker 2 (01:27:23):
Why do I always have to pull up?
You have a phone.

Speaker 1 (01:27:25):
Can you just do it for me real quick?
So this is an Italian.

Speaker 3 (01:27:31):
I know what it is.
I had it on my list to punishsomebody else with.
I'm talking to the ice.

Speaker 1 (01:27:36):
It's an Italian cartoon.

Speaker 2 (01:27:38):
Look, look, Paulie, there's an iceberg.

Speaker 1 (01:27:41):
It was made in the early 2000s and basically just
rips off of Disney cartoonanimation.

Speaker 3 (01:27:49):
Is it, the one with the mice.

Speaker 2 (01:27:51):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:27:53):
I think there's singing and stuff involved.

Speaker 2 (01:27:56):
It's the entire movie .

Speaker 1 (01:27:58):
That's where he's going to watch it on.
Don't shoot me.
I didn't do nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:28:04):
I think it's like a final trailer or something.

Speaker 1 (01:28:06):
The Legend of.

Speaker 2 (01:28:07):
Titanic, an animated classic.
Yeah, it's a classic.

Speaker 1 (01:28:11):
Just play something.

Speaker 3 (01:28:12):
It's a quote-unquote, self-designed classic.

Speaker 1 (01:28:19):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (01:28:20):
Oh, I want to see it too.
This looks like the animationfor Anastasia.

Speaker 1 (01:28:27):
How long is this movie Hold it up to the
microphone so people can hearhow amazing the audio is?
The headline is here, watch outpeople, I'll run you over Rich
people coming through.

Speaker 2 (01:28:38):
Get out of the way.
Excuse me.

Speaker 1 (01:28:40):
Peasantry, look at my disproportionately blocky car.

Speaker 2 (01:28:44):
And next time learn how to drive.
My monocle fell out, ah yes.

Speaker 3 (01:28:50):
Money, ah yes my wife , my young wife.
She's not here for money.

Speaker 2 (01:28:58):
Well spent.
I'm an important character.

Speaker 3 (01:29:01):
Well spent.

Speaker 2 (01:29:01):
The camera's panning on me for much, much time.

Speaker 1 (01:29:04):
There it is, that's a big dinghy.

Speaker 2 (01:29:06):
I'm in a boat.
The camera's panning on me formuch, much time.
There it is.
That's a big dinghy.
I'm in a boat.

Speaker 1 (01:29:11):
This boat.

Speaker 2 (01:29:13):
Here's five pounds.
Park the car, get my luggage, Imean my wife.

Speaker 1 (01:29:18):
All right cool.

Speaker 2 (01:29:21):
That's enough.
Stop the luggage.

Speaker 3 (01:29:22):
Yes sir, I'm so dreary looking inside.

Speaker 1 (01:29:26):
This is a movie we should dub.
It's the dead-eyed look of allthe characters no emotion, so I
don't know.
That's 90 minutes of pureenjoyment that mitch gets to
enjoy.
Well, welcome back on to the uhthe punishment trend.

Speaker 3 (01:29:39):
You know you only have like eight more weeks left,
so so I get my one weekreprieve again each time I get
punished.
It's like a progressive amountof weeks in a row.

Speaker 1 (01:29:49):
I've actually had people message me.
Maybe you should take Mitch offthe wheel for a while and I was
like no, no, mitch stays on thewheel.

Speaker 2 (01:29:58):
It's not even fair the wheel.

Speaker 3 (01:30:01):
Hath decided your fate, alright next time I get to
pick top 10, we're doing top 10.
Mitch's worst punishments the.

Speaker 1 (01:30:07):
Titanic one was actually a user-based suggestion
.
So if you feel that you have ahorrible movie, we want Mitch to
watch.
With taste With taste.
Okay, Not some you know, gourd,porno, trash or whatever like
that.
But if you have something withtaste that we can actually talk
about, please comment and we'llmake.

(01:30:29):
We'll make Mitch watch it nextweek All right.
That does it for episode 21.
Mitch say goodbye.

Speaker 3 (01:30:37):
I hate you all.

Speaker 2 (01:30:39):
Don't hate me, hate the wheel and hate him more,
cause it was his idea, his idea.

Speaker 3 (01:30:42):
It's your wheel, you get blamed through necessity.

Speaker 1 (01:30:44):
Goodbye.
It's his idea, it's your willyou get blamed through necessity
goodbye Tom, goodbye Tom, andgoodbye me Hayden.
Goodbye, bye, bye, bye, bye,bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye,
bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye,bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye,
bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye you.

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