July 3, 2022 • 50 mins
In Stewartstown, PA there is a place called Rehmeyers Hollow where tales of hexerie, curses, witches, murders and hauntings are still told today. However, Well known among these pow wowers was a man named John Blymire. His alleged feats of magic include curing a dog of rabies and he was generally known for having fantastic luck. Luck is a random unprejudiced thing and as it always does, it ran out for Blymire.Bad fortune befell him, and of course, in this worldview in which a rabid dog could be cured with some magical words, this bad luck was seen as the work of an evil doer who was hexing him.
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We ain't gonna stay. Even thepat is afraid. Welcome to even the
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podcast as afraid. I'm chared.I'm here with Nick and Sam as we
are about to finish out our serieson John Blimer Witches and Curses at bryan
mers Hollow. Spooky. I thinkNick's in rare form tonight. He's been
real quiet, kind of just Ihad the baby sleeping on me before before
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this, so I'm cracky quiet yeah. And also she's very warm now now
now I'm cold and nature heaters asI like to call them. Well,
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but if you want to keep upwith the new episodes Crime and Conspiracy Network,
and you will see this one currentlyon there. All right, are
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y'all ready to finish out this serieson Rhymer's Hollow. Yes, this entrance
short, this time two minutes short. Look at that nice new record.
This Magical Tone was the hottest Hexbook at the time. So if you
remember when we last left off,we were talking about this book that it
was all the rage, switchy craftypeople had to have a must have,
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multifaceted and useful or needful item ifyou wanted to sit with the cool kids
at the cauldron, this was thebook you needed. So this was the
book that like made you immortal,right, like you couldn't drown, nobody
could kill you. This is theWarts, This is the Defensi Code of
the time, the Da Vinci.This is the book by Dan Brown of
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that era, there was another popularbook at the time. An opposing book
also came into circulation, known asthe six and Seventh Book of Moses,
which contained instructions on conjuring and controllingdemons. Hex Doctors all around begin to
acquire copies of this book, butmerely owning it was said to be extremely
dangerous and could be even fatal.It's like, I wonder if it told
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you how to part the seas.Let's gonna say, it's like it's a
Pokemon. They had two versions,red and Blue. So now there's two
books here. One is you know, heart goal, Yeah, one is
fatal. One is Life and PokemonLife Pokemon Death. When when that generation
one teaches you how to part theRed Sea, look at there, that's
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Pokemon Red. In nineteen twenty eightand Stewartsontown, an event occurred that would
calls what would become known as thehex Scare. Think of the shit that
happened in the nineteen eighties and againin the nineties, and again in every
fucking decade since Satanic Panic. Allthe neighbors were hexing each other. You
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know, it just wasn't except it'snot Satanic Panic. That now it's like,
you know, coronavirus panic, exceptnot that the panic about the coronavirus.
It's panic about how it was createdby Joe Biden or something. I
think right now, it's it's morelike world yeah, yeah, yeah,
just on crazy shit on both endsof the spectrum. Panic. Yeah,
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it's all over the place. Thisworld's going to shit. Hey, at
least we're not hexing each other.Well, how do we know. I'm
sure there's some hexing going on somewhere. Oh yeah, yeah, that is
true. I bet there was ahex to make Joe Biden fall off that
bicycle. I saw. I waswatching John Oliver today and there's like some
water shortage going on in the statesor in like the Western states. Yeah
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great, not here. We gotplenty of yeah in the West, in
the Western States, like um Utahand stuff. But anyways, Utah is
like really fucked and their governor's honestto God's solution for this was to have
everyone in the state prey over theweekend. No, well, it's a
it's a very Mormon state. No, he said, of every faith of
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every faith. Wah, that thatwas. That was the governor's solution to
stop the drought. Was was preyto God. Listen, just just get
over at Utah. God wants youto die. All are Utah fans?
Goodbye? It was nice and y'all. Based on what I know about Utah,
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this podcast is probably illegal in Utah. I don't know that we have
any listeners in Utah. Podcasts areprobably illegal there. The heck scare in
every single fucking instance of Satanic paniccan be defined thus lee stupid people trying
to understand shit that they have neitherthe intellect or reasoning to understand, and
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then concluding that is with some otherworldly evil presence that was the cause of
it. It is a part ofevery goddamn era every decade, over and
over and over again, because peopleare, let's face it, we are
a bunch of undignified morons, allof us. Oh yeah, just history
constantly repeats itself. It does,it does, It repeats itself. Although
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I think I think Satanic panic,at least most recent Satanic panic, it's
more of an American thing. Yeah, I don't think that happens. Probably
have your versions of Satanic panic inCanada religious here, Well, it doesn't
necessarily have to do with religion either. It's it could be any kind of
panic. The planic we had was, you know what, there was a
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time this is true. This islike maybe a decade or so ago where
Canada wasn't doing well internationally in hockey, so they had a hockey summit.
So that's our state. Yes,yes, learn how to hit a puck
jimmy ye god, oh my gosh. But this can also be attributed.
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So think of at length this youhave basically what America is going through currently.
Yeah, in the political amosphere,in the just the world atmosphere,
or to see the country atmosphere,which is invertently affecting other countries as well.
Right now, they are saying thatwe are currently in the fall of
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like the Roman Empire. Right,I could see there's history repeats itself,
right, Okay, history does repeatitself. Yeah, back during the Romans,
they were the America of that time. Yeah, militarily, economically they
for the ship. Yeah, Imean Canada. Canada's going to be the
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world leaders and then you'll all beI think we're all going to be speaking
Chinese. Oh god, but no, A lot of people are saying that
we're going through like basically like asecond you know, Great Depression almost something
similar, not obviously or not onthe not as bad as you know the
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Great Depression was, but we're likeon the cusp of it. You know,
we're moving into a depression and weare very much right there at a
recession. Yeah, that's what we'reright there at. Canada's about to announce
that we're in a recession. Ohyeah, recessions coming. It's fixing to
happen for all of us. Everybody'sfixing. But keep in mind, recession
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is a scary word. But thebar for recession is very low. It's
essentially if the market sees a lossfor two straight months, Like it's not
it's not like a huge deal,but they just want you to like prepare
in advance, like hey, youthings you'll always see during a recession.
Housing market goes down or people stopbuying in the house of market because it's
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so upright. And two, gasgas prices. And here's the other thing.
Because petroleum is used to make somuch everything else goes up. H
all those plastic things that we loveso much. Guess what you need fucking
petroleum to make them. Yep,So there you go. So if gas
goes up, your toys go up. Your eight McDonald's goes up because guess
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what you like those plastic wax rappersthat they put you fucking burger in.
Well, guess what you need patroleto make, not just not just the
rappers, but the food's got toget shipped there. And for things to
get shipped there, it needs gas. Ye needs gas, it needs plastic.
So everything goes up. I amhonestly considering an electric vehicle for the
first time. Yeah, I'm allconsidering a motorcycle. Yeah, or horseback
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riding. You know you can.I can afford that there's plenty of those
around. Well, yeah, Imean I don't drive much because I work
from home, and I'm hoping thatstays. Maybe we should all just get
back into the bicycles. That no, No, it's it's too dangerous over
here. That's hell of dangerous.Well known among these pow wowers was a
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name was a man named John Blimer. His alleged feats of magic include curing
a dog of rabies, and hewas generally known for having fantastic look.
Look is a random, unprejudiced thing? And is is it? Always?
Does? It ran out for Blimer? Whatever? Like whatever about a streak
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of good luck. I'm like,something is going to happen. Oh,
like there's always that, Like thisis gonna end and just be terrible.
Speaking of luck, I want onehundred dollars on the lottery over the weekend.
Oh you know, Jeremy and Iwant a scratch off ticket one hundred
dollars to I won. I wastwo numbers away from winning sixty five million,
but I'll take the one hundred dollars. Yeah. I didn't win anything
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this weekend. Damn. There yougo, get on our game. Maybe
I should have played. Yeah,obviously you got to buy a lottery ticket
sixty five million dollars. I'm mygod, shit, like they're stopping selling
twenty minutes. I have the apps. I'm just like kay, whatever,
he just bought it. And thenthe next day I wake up it's like
you want I'm like, okay,expecting like a free ticket or something.
It's like a one hundred bucks.I'm like, oh fuck, nice.
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Nice. Yeah, but bad fortunebefail him. And of course, in
this worldview in which a rabbit dollarcould be cured with some magical words,
this bad luck was seen as thework of an evildoer who was hexing him
instead of some logical reason. Well, he obviously got rabies. That's yes,
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that's if you're gonna say he gotraped, which is also possible.
I'm like, wow. From zeroto one hundred, he obviously got raped.
WOWT. Blimber began to exhibit signsof extreme paranoia, caused by his
belief that his bad luck was beingcaused purposely by another human with magical skills.
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His wife begin to fear for herlife and have him committed to a
mental hospital for a total of fortyeight days. Nice little vacation. Now
you got to go imagine a mentalhospital in the early nineteen hundreds. Oh
yeah, I'm sure they were wonderful. I'm sure they traded everyone with the
respect and cart at bacae at breakfast, cocaine, yeah, cocaine at dinner,
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and then they give you an enemaat eight. Oh wonderful, So
Florida Friday Night. Mental hospitals inthe early nineteen HUDs were usually referred to
as snake pits, where they triedto cure everyone using literal snakes. I
wouldn't be shocked if that's the nextsec a derogatory term that most aptly defined
the state of nearly all mental facilitiesat the time. A place of horror
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and confusion is a crowded mental hospitalwhere patients are improperly cared for, is
one of the official definitions. Well, mental hospitals back then, like people
with mental disabilities were seen as inconvenient. Yeah, and and they were like
expendable, basically the free ranged.This is like let's just put them,
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move them out of the way kindof thing, right. They would be
like experiments and sit on them.Oh yeah, yeah, but you got
to think too. Medical would discussthis again. Part medical was not at
its high point, no, ofcourse, and the early hundreds of someone's
acting quote un normal, they're goingto be like, oh my god,
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there, you can't get your dickup. We put leeches on your balls.
Ye well yeah, exactly, leecheson my balls. Right now.
I'm pretty sure that regular hospitals atthis time were also not very good.
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No, no, yeah, mentalhospitals were probably very worse or more worse
than your regular hospital, right,yeah, I didn't care about because host
regular hospitals, I think that theytried, they just didn't know how to
fix you. Mental hospitals they knewnothing. They just thought like, oh,
this person's lost cause let's just givethem cocaine. Yeah. If people
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were able to actually get out ofmental hospitals at the time, they were
almost never the same person as whenthey went in physical mental any emotional states
were often in deterioration. If thesame person was accused of something which landed
them in a mental hospital, theymight enter sane, but to exit,
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to exit sane, if they evergot out at all, was very rare,
so they would exit as a nutter. Yeah. Oh yeah, no,
the mental torture that goes on,well that went on in those hospitals,
it would, yeah, it wouldhow prisons work now, where you're
they're supposed to rehabilitate you, butthen you become a bigger criminal. Yeah,
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but I think I would assume thatmental hospitals today also probably are in
the same realm. Yeah, I'mnot saying I don't think as bad just
because we have laws now and stuffthat you know that kind of protect We
have laws for prison too, andlook at them. Yeah yeah, but
prisons, prisons are private. Keepthat prisons are privately run by private companies.
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I mean, I guess hospitals inthe states are too. But here
hospitals are government funded, so oursare not privately there. Ours are state
owned, right, but they're fundedby you. But I don't get any
caught be like, look, Iwant my ham sandwich every day. Hell
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no, you a free ham sandwich. No, not from the prison.
Chocolate chip cookie that probably eat likea rock. Oh yeah no no,
no, not from the from thehospital. Okay, are you sure that's
a chocolate chip cookie. I don'tknow. I will say this hospital,
hospital, jail food. It's terrible. Hospital. You had jail food once,
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just once once, once I bowedto never go back. Now.
It was I was twenty years oldand the hand to deal with alcohol.
Oh stupid, I'm underage up thereone nineteen In most provinces, it's twenty
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one here. I remember I went. It was like midnight or whatever.
I was in there for forty eighthours. Played U got put in population,
had a great time, was bunkingwith my body, had a great
time, made some friends. Jailnot prison, right, Well yeah,
yeah, big big checkers. You'renot really getting checkers. You know,
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you're not really getting the hearted criminalsand jailed just like it put you away.
Everybody was timeout. Jail is timeout. Do you remember the food that
they gave you? Huh? Youremember the food that they gave did you?
The food was fucking terrible. Itwas terrible. When I tell you,
on the scale of entertaining, howbad it was negative ten? No,
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it was bad. Oh hell no, it was bad. Like the
pancake. Like they brought you breakfastin the morning. You got breakfast around
five, five thirty in the morning. That is so early they wake your
ass up at five. Oh helldamn um. But the breakfast they brought
it was the pancake. Yeah.I had a pancake on there. Let
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me tell you something. I couldhave broke a damn car windshield with it.
Did they at least give you alittle syrup and the grits? The
grits I could have drank them.The eggs were okay, the eggs were
fine, yeah, and then thesausage was fun. Yeah. But the
grits and the pancake I ate them. I was hunger. Oh, hospital
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food gets a batter, app Butwhen we were in the hospital, when
we're waiting for Delilah to come intothis world, um, not so bad.
The chicken was very um bland becauseit's mind like, it's very like,
I mean, they give you pep, you have to pepper, but
I think what was it? Yeah, I think they gave lies a tomato
soup but she doesn't like it,or they gave her some kind of soup
that she doesn't like. So I'mlike, okay, I'll eat it because
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I just went to the cafeteria usually, so I'd eat the food she didn't
like, and tomato soup was fine. Like yeah, it also depends yeah,
and most hospitals are hit and miss. Yeah. I also think it
depends on what you're in for.Because she was in for pregnancy, so
she didn't need a special diet,right, Typically the hospitals that are used
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for childbirth, the food it's alwaysbetter, Yeah, because because there's no
way there's nothing really there for specialneed, like there's no special dietary needs.
Really. I mean I mostly wentto the cafeteria if I want to.
Yeah, that's where I what Idid when both of mine. Yeah.
Yeah, So I just to leteverybody know I do not have a
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criminal yes, yeah, no,I've been to I went. The one
time I was there, I belledout, showed up to court, and
my name was not on the docketand was told don't you ever fucking come
back here there that that that wasenough to scare you. I did nothing.
I mean, I was drinking UNDERAGEAthat's whatever. That's it's It's not
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like I went out and held upan a hooper, although you should have
you might have. At the endof that does sound like I mean money?
No, damn that was two.I was twenty. I'm thirty three
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now. Damn. Yeah, sowhat thirteen years ago, fourteen years ago,
it was a long time ago.Women who experienced extreme postpartum depression,
or even those who had had itpronounced opinion of the world were doomed for
these houses of hellish in humanities.Think of the horror movies about insane asylums,
and that's pretty much what they wereactually like back then. It was
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like Arkham, but way worse.Oh wonderful? Why so serious? I
think everybody, if you, ifyou are listening to this, you don't
know what Arkham is. Arkham isthe prison or mental institution in Batman.
What is wrong with the Gotham's crimeLike, why does anyone live in Gotham
City? The crime rate is likeone hundred and fifty percent. Um.
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I mean, there just seems tobe like a lot of mental illness in
that city Nis Detroit, and yeahyeah yeah, but like not like your
routine mental illness where you know someoneis you know, just needs a couple
happy pills or whatever. This isjust like, yeah, I'm a clown
that likes to kill people. Imean, why not. No, it
sounds like a fun place to live. John Wayne Gacy was a clown that
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liked to kill boys. That istrue. Yeah, that is true.
He didn't go to Arkham. Heshould have been to him death. Blimer
was not released from the mental asylum. It is said that he disappeared,
which one would take to me thathe had managed to escape, but because
of the legends surrounding him, itwould appear that he had magically vanished or
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yeah, just out of thin airappeared. Honestly, you know what it
probably was. It was probably evenless interesting. They probably lost track of
him and he just like left,like it was even like some daring escape.
He just like walked out the frontdoor, like hey, where is
He's like it's like, oh,yeah, he disappeared. John Blimber turned
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up at a cigar factory. Wherehe used to work in nineteen twenty eight.
He was determined to find the causeof his curse, and was even
more so found out he placed itupon him. Blimer soon turned to the
River Witch of Marietta, or NellyKnoll. She identified Blimber's enemy as a
member of the Rhymer family. Hejust pointed to a name in the phone
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books, like it's one of theseguys. Oh yeah, because you know
they had phone books back then,the Rhyma family, they might have.
I mean, if her name isthe river Witch of Marietta, I don't
think you should be talking about whendid phone books come out. I'm gonna
I'm gonna look this up. Yeah, now I need to know. I
don't think they were around in thetwenty oh, that's what I would say.
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I don't think that she could havejust went all right, yeah,
the fifties of the sixties, Yeah, eighteen seventy nine, we were you
learned something new every day. Whatthe That's crazy, at least in Toronto.
So I imagine it's like, Idon't know about the States, but
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I mean imagine probably earlier because we'rewhen was Canada founded seven or not seven?
Well, technically like the sixteen hundred, but eighteen sixties, I know,
but officially as its own country eighteensixty seven. Okay, so I'm
pretty sure the States had it that. Yeah, yeah, I had a
phone, but apparently the first phonebook that had all of Toronto's phone subscribers
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and all business and personal fit onsix pages. So there you go.
It's not much of a bus wholemagazine phone flyer. Again, it's all
coming full circle now. When heasked which family member, she asked him
to hold out his hand. WhenBlimer looked down at his palm, the
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face of Noon Rhymer appeared on hisclamy skin. Nellie Noll stated that to
remove the curse, he needed totake Rhymer's copy of the Long Lost Friend
and a lock of his hair andbury them six feet under the ground.
Oh yeah, Like any rational person, Blimer and a friend decided to enact
their vengeance own Nelson Rhymer. I'mglad it's not like that. Actually,
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no, you know what, itis kind of like that. It is
like that because there was the pizzashop incident, pizza Gate. Oh,
someone actually thought there was a pedophilweringand a pizza shop and they actually thought
there was a basement that there wasn't. Blimer and another man went to Rhymer's
door asking to speak with him.Rhymer allowed them to stay the night as
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it was late. When they arrived. They were unable to secure his spell
book or a lock of his hair, and they left the following morning seeking
more help. Just told him downand cut his hair. Oh yeah,
you know what they should have done. They should have just said, hey,
can we borrow your book real quick? And can we just get a
piece of your hair. I havea fetish. I think that wouldn't go
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well. I don't know. Itmight have maybe in Florida, but I
don't think not around this time.I don't. I don't know. You
don't know how Blimer worked. Hemay have been like cool man, yeah,
true. Blimer decided that they neededmore manpower to subdue Rhymer, as
he was a large and imposing man. They came back the following evening,
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November twenty seventh, and tackled himto the ground in his living room,
and although varying stories of what wentdown that night exist, one happening remains
the same. During the struggle,Rhymer was beaten and strangled to death.
Really, do you want to giveup his hair? No? Damn,
that's all the Witch of Marietta's fault. Ye. When they realized they had
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killed a man, they staged thehome to look as though it had been
robbed. They then doused the bodywith kerosene and lit it on fire,
being the flames would burn the entirehouse down. Well, this is where
the story takes that strange strange no, because he didn't do was? The
witch said? Well, no,no, no, this is where that
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story takes a strange term. Okay. When they left, Rhymer's body was
engulfed in flames, but soon afterthe flames mysteriously went out. Two days
later, a neighbor discovered Rhymer's bodyand alerted authorities. The crime stunned the
community, and Blimer was soon pickedup as a suspect. Maybe maybe maybe
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he was wearing clothes that were entirelyasbestos. I don't know how he thought
that that was gonna work. Ijust s you would think during that time
a lot of people still wore thingswere coton yeah and wool, right,
especially they're doing the twenties. Idon't because I think most people who are
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rich had the I think people weredoing satin at that time. Oh yeah,
I'm sure they were or silk,yeah, but you had to have
a lot of money to have those. But I think the majority of people
were cotton and wool. So yeah, that's flammable as fuck. Oh yeah,
yeah, no, he's wearing parasbestos. The media coverage of the
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crime focused on Blimer's obsession with hexes, and soon that was set as the
reason for the murder. Soon after, many crimes following were attributed to the
supernatural folk magic began to be blamedfor all that went wrong around Pennsylvania and
were labeled as hex murders. Gottablame something. Yep, it's not the
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people, I know. We'll see. That's the crazy thing. The man
was killed over something a crock pottold another crock pot. Yeah yeah,
yeah, essentially, that's exactly whathappened. That's like Twitter today. Twitter
is a cesspool of shit, shit, shit shit. Oh that's pretty cool
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shit yeah yeah. And then oncein a while boobs boobs porn obviously,
that's it's like I hate that one. Like someone like follows something porn related
and they retweet it, so likeyou're scrolling down, and it's like normal,
normal, normal, normal, juststraight up porn normal. And it
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really sucks when that happens while you'reat work. Oh yeah, yeah,
and he's like scroll scroll. Youcan turn a thing on that makes like
a filter in there. You canyeah, you can put a filter on.
Yeah there, that's like automatic nowwhere it's just like this might contain
sensitive, bitter, and then youclick it because you're curious. Seems like
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much like the witch scares of theseventeen hundred and eighteen hundreds, and like
the Satanic panic that would follow ina few decades. It was a big
old cluster fuck of accusations and hatred, finger pointing, in denials, heavy
paranoia. I think Hawthorne short story, Young Goodman Brown. It was quite
a kerfuffle, to say the least. So nothing has changed, then,
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okay, no, got it.No, it's just there's always pan what
It doesn't matter what decade you're in, there's a panic on something, whether
it's Satan or you know, pizzapedophile rings or you know, pex's monkey
pox, COVID Republicans, Democrats,whatever, Communists, communists was a big
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one. That's a real fear though, that is a real fear they're coming
after here. It's not it is. I mean there's communists, there's dictators,
there's whatever. You know what Ido. I enjoy my arcade cabinets.
No, I enjoy doing this withy'all. Say. I enjoy eating
at Taco Bell four days a week. Taco Bell's great four days a week.
Thought, Taco Bell four talk aboutfantastic? Are you like constantly on
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the toilet? No, here's thething. When you eat Taco Bell regularly,
you become immune to it, right, because you can get an immunity.
Christ I'm not even like when Imoved in with um Liza's family,
like after we got married, theywould have Taco Bell over your week,
and at first, like we comehome and I'd run to the bathroom.
Then after like a few weeks,it's just like okay, whatever, like
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you just your body's used to it. That is all our Taco Bell fans
out there. The Crispy Chicken tacois back. The avocado rantwin is the
one to get. You don't havethat here, I don't think unless we
do, because like chose your menuso so often that I could say that
and then we have it so Idon't know. Today the home sits in
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a hollow known as Hecks Hollow,and it's vacant. The sentence of Nelson.
Rhymer and his new and its newowners have been trying to turn the
house into a museum to display Nelson'slife and his murder. I wonder if
it's haunted. We're getting to that, man, Look at there. This
Like I told you, this episodefeatures kind of the conspiracy element, the
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paranormal element, and the true crimeelement. Right, it had everything.
Yeah, the home is said bylocals to be haunted and is still furnished
with many of Rhymer's original below.That's crazy and also really cool. Yeah,
a portion of the kitchen floor hasbeen covered over, has been covered
over with glass, with the scortchfloorboards beneath it, the area where Blimer
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started that they have to make thismuseum. Yeah, I know, that's
especially like all the original furnitures.They're just like, you know, de
dust the house and we d dustthe house. I mean you walk around
the area where his body was seton fire, still there. Yeah.
Accounts from local residents tale of shadowyfigures lurking around the property. Window one
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is there almost people looking for coppermaybe. Others state that if you throw
pebbles at the home, it willthrow them back. It's it's almost people
that are staying at the home thatyou're throwing pebbles at them. Disembodied voices
have also been recorded in the forestsurrounding the home, almost people, and
a black dog with red eyes,a symbol of debt, has been spotted
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roaming the property. Homeless death dog. You know, crazy thing about like
um dogs with red eyes. Um, my dad back in New York where
there was like an apartment or whateverthat he was am walking here, that's
when he heard at the middle ofthe night. I'm just setting the scene
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for ye. So apparently there waslike some crazy thing that happened in that
apartment and there was a dog thatthe owners I guess like the dog passed
away or whatever, and they buriedhim in the closet, like they literally
took the floorboards out, put thedog underneath the thing, and then you
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know whatever. Granted, there's noplace to bury an animal in New York
City, right, so that's whatthey needed to do. And guess what
that room that my dad was stayingin, that closet was where the dog
was buried or whatever. And hesaid one time, in the middle of
the night he saw a dog withred eyes like peering out from him,
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like through the closet, and hefucking booked it. He was gone.
Well, they typically say that adog with red eyes, Yeah, it
is a symbol of death. Yeah, but is also considered what they call
a hellhound. Yeah, right,Typically hellhounds are seen within cemeteries. Yeah,
so that is m So it wasno good. No, he said,
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there was like bad juju there,like it was odd. I consider
chihuahuas to be hellhounds. No,Chihuahuas are literally born out of the poles
of saving there. They are somean, they are so angry. One
nice chihuahua in my life, andit was when I was a kid.
We took our cat to the vetand we were waiting and there was another
(34:12):
woman waiting and she had a verysmall chihuahua named Taco appropriately and yeah,
it was very small, it wasvery cute. It let me, he
let me pat him, but hewas very scared, so he was shaking,
but he was very like. Helet me come up and pet him,
and he was very nice and hedidn't take your fingers off. That
he did not take my fingers off, So that is the one nice Chihuahua
(34:34):
I have met. Now, thatdog's probably long dead as I was a
kid, but small dogs live long, so that dog could be you know,
twenty Yeah. Still walking around thishome remembers the tragedy that occurred here,
and many believed that the house itselfis cursed, which is why it
refused to burn down despite its veryflammable construction materials. Now, if you're
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watching us on the Crime of Conspiracynetwork, you have seen a picture of
this house. It's solid fucking wood. Oh yeah, and as we know,
wood is not flammable. There areeven tales of weird lights, UFOs,
strange ghostly animals, and regular humanoidghost spotted in the area, especially
(35:20):
centered on the house where the murderoccurred. And those are all homeless people,
especially the UFOs flying homeless people.It could happen, Oh yeah,
we got those everywhere, spare change. It is quite common for ghostly tales
and legends to spring up around murdersites, doubly so when the murder was
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committed in the name of the occult. Most business savvy townsfolk will tend to
take advantage of course, of course, come on, come on, you
have to. I mean I willnot exactly. Oh yeah, by the
house turn into a museumbily comes seeyou where the man was murdered. Roswell,
(36:04):
roswell, New Mexico. Like theylean heavily into the alien ship like
you. You have to. It'sfree, like gets free publicity. You
didn't have to think of anything.It just happened. Take advantage of it.
No, that's why I'm so likeshocked that they haven't made this into
a museum yet. Honestly, there'sprobably a lot of reasons to it too.
Yeah, it might be a townor city thing, county thing as
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well. Yeah, I guess too, because I guess if it's like considered
residential and they have to make itlike commercial, well it's not even that
either. It's also publicizing murder,so you don't. Yeah, some towns
are like, cool, let's doit kind of like the uh boarding house.
Yeah yeah, yeah, you knowthis would be kind of consider that
same thing, like you could doan overnight stay at this house. Yeah
(36:50):
yeah, type of thing. Althoughbeing the side of a brutal murderer is
never something to be proud of.After enough time has passed, you can
use that levee lad and to luretourists and curious folks to your town.
Yep. So like what we justtalked about, yep. And based on
the legends surrounding such places, themajority of people who go to these places
go there expecting to see something scaryor otherworldly. And with that expectation in
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mind, even blowing of the windcould be construed as something strange. And
for those who go there expecting tofind something but do not, there is
a pressure on them to recount somethingfantastic rather than mundane. I saw a
bunch of flying homeless people. IfI saw that, I would have to
(37:37):
say something about it would be amazing. No, no, but you used
to be those videos you could buy. You remember, there used to be
I don't know if you remember this, back when we were kids, girls
gone wild all that stuff be infommercials, yes, right, and late at
night be infommercials. And used tobe like this, like three of buying
(38:00):
these vases of um, a girl'sgone wild? That guy got the ship
suit out of him? Did hereally? Oh? Yeah? Videos a
lot of them. There's the underageissue. There were some people who didn't
actually consent to being on the video. Oh yeah, you also have During
that time, you had these videosthat were like, I can't remember what
(38:22):
the name, but they had violentin the title. It was like volume
one, Volume two, Volume three, and it was literally videos of people
fucking dying. Yeah what the fuck? Yeah? Yes? How did they
what? How can these cells shitlike get this? Not only that,
you also had the videos of bumfights. Do you remember those? What
(38:45):
bum bumb fights? Volume one two? Amazing? It was literally a guy
going around paying homeless people to fuckingbeat the shit out of you. Yes,
that is terrible. There was aCD underground of VHS tapes back in
the mid nineties, just say.There was Have you guys heard of the
(39:07):
I'm using the term very loosely,but video game Hong Kong ninety eight or
Hong Kong ninety seven or whatever itis. So essentially it was like a
joke game made by I don't thinkguy was Japanese or Trainings. They think
was Japanese, and it was likea like a very crude, shoot him
up kind of thing. It wassupposed to make fun of communism in China
(39:27):
or something. And then if youdied. It showed a picture of a
dead body, well what people assumedwas a dead body, and everyone's like,
what is the source of this image? Like there are creepy pastas going
around. Oh, the guy whomade this video game killed that person and
he made it. But what happened? So they eventually found it where this
came from, and it was infact an actual like dead person from one
(39:50):
of those VHS tapes that are justlike oh death, you know volume one
that's like that. There's like aboxer. I think you're like indeed or
something. Yeah, I'm familiar thesevideos. The only reason I'm not going
to say who owned it because Iremember being a kid and a person all
of these tapes, and of courseas a kid, you're curious. Now
(40:12):
you can just find it on theinternet very easily. And I remember seeing
a video with a person's head exploding. Yeah, you know, it's just
crazy. It was just the mostviolent shit you've ever seen in life.
But there was like literally this CDunderground VHS right of videos yea, and
most of them got sued out ofoblivion. Yeah. Well that's like the
(40:32):
you know, like the Gore sitsand stuff, like what was the one
the super popular rotten Yeah. Yeah, they had some like messed up shit.
They're still there, by the way, ye, so really I thought
they got taken down a long timeago. No, they're still there.
Wow. And so we're going tocontinue on with this, And so the
(40:54):
legends continue with a true account storyfrom our writer in researcher Steph. How
many fling hobos did she find?She is actually from Pennsylvania, So here
you go. Having never heard ofthis place before, Steph can recount a
trip to hexan Cough Rock in whicha very strange thing occurred, which leads
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Steph in a conundrum of being askeptic who possibly experienced something supernatural. Upon
leaving the woods. After a tripto the rock, Steph's two friends Gary
and Barbe yelled startled at something.Barbe saw a glowing light like a flashlight
appear in front of her. Garysaid he saw a man wearing a bomber
(41:37):
jacket holding a flashlight, but couldsee through the men. Stephanie saw nothing.
Here we go. Weeks later,at twilight with a different group of
friends, Steph, out of thecorner of her eye, saw a man
with a bomber jacket walking next toher holding a flashlight. She could see
right through him. I assume Twilightmeeting. She went to see the movie
(42:00):
Twilight. Oh yeah, yeah,Well that explains, you know, the
guy holding the flashlight. There wasone factor about this sighting that neither Gary
nor Steff shared with each other.Upon hearing about this sighting, Gary said,
I don't think we saw the samething. What I saw didn't have
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leg head, a head, orlegs, just a floating torso. That
was the one description that had notshared that they had not shared with each
other until afterwards, and it seemedto confirm that they had both seen the
same thing in the same general areaat different time. I'm going to say
the bomb jacket didn't work. Ifhe doesn't have any limbs, it's just
(42:43):
a floating jacket. However, areview of ghost stories of the Lehigh Valley
after the sighting, they discovered thatthere was a legend of a floating floating
torso like ghost in the area.Did the three people see something for real?
Did Barb, Gary and Steph reallysee a ghost? Or was it
(43:04):
that they thought they saw something basedon things that they had previously but had
forgotten. MM couldn't tell you butif you didn't know the story of the
floating bomber jacket, the floating torso, then it's not in your head right
right, So possibly, yes,you could have seen something. I believe
(43:24):
in an afterlife. I said thisseveral different times in the paranormal in some
way or form. Yeah, asa skeptic, staff has no answer for
this and can only shrug and say, whatever it was, it was pretty
fucking neat. And that's the pointof these things. At their heart,
(43:45):
these are legends, and they arefor fun, for rumors, for spooky
parables. Whether or not something wasreally there, it was the experience and
the aftermath of wondering about it thatmade it worthwhile. Yeah, you know
the thing about these stories is,you know, there take it. You
(44:05):
don't take it to heart, youknow, like, have fun with it,
have fun with they you know,it's just a story. It's just
a legend. It's not like,you know, don't need to burn someone
alive over No, they get exaggerated. Things are built out of actual things
that have happened or people have seen, and then they exaggerate over the years.
Right, Yeah, the place couldthe broken telephone it, Yeah,
(44:30):
the place could actually be haunt it, right, but by all these different
things that they're saying probably not yeah, yeah, like may have a flying
you see you see you seem flyinglights. But I imagine this home is
in a remote location where there's starsout right, so you can actually see
the stars. You might see somethingshoot across the sky. It could be
(44:51):
a shooting star or just something you'renot going to see something they're talking about
maybe of like the floating balls oflight that people typically see paranormal wives within
the woods. Now some of thathas been debunked, especially if you're in
a swampy area because then you havethe gas. Yeah, and that has
been debunked. So also what happensafter Taco Bell? But it could she
(45:19):
could have seen something? Yeah,well well we'll say maybe maybe haunted.
But that's going to end the series. That's the closing. That's it nice
through Rhymer's hollow. Yeah well that'spretty cool though, I like, you
know, I had never heard ofthis story and it was really interesting learning
about it. So it's funny thinkingit's like, oh, these people are
(45:40):
so stupid, they just believe whatever. But look at today history itself.
We would like to thank our veryon writer and researcher Stephanie Kimmember for all
the hard work and dedications she putinto the series. On the Rhymer's hollow
curves, we would like to thinkthe resources used for our series American Haunting
Saint Philly, goos Stewartstown dot Org, Coffin Bell Visit Pa, Dutch Country
(46:05):
only in your state, Atlas Obscura, Collins Dictionary, and the book ghost
Stories of the Lee High Valley.Now here's the part I always repeat myself
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And it's a great horror game,by the way, So if you've
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their money, well Tim coffee.It's like a buck thirty. It's cheap,
you know it is. Yeah,so it keeps them a white kem
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We ain't gonna stay. Even thepat is afraid. Welcome to even the
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podcast as afraid. I'm chared.I'm here with Nick and Sam as we
are about to finish out our serieson John Blimer Witches and Curses at bryan
mers Hollow. Spooky. I thinkNick's in rare form tonight. He's been
real quiet, kind of just Ihad the baby sleeping on me before before
(00:41):
this, so I'm cracky quiet yeah. And also she's very warm now now
now I'm cold and nature heaters asI like to call them. Well,
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and you will see this one currentlyon there. All right, are
(02:19):
y'all ready to finish out this serieson Rhymer's Hollow. Yes, this entrance
short, this time two minutes short. Look at that nice new record.
This Magical Tone was the hottest Hexbook at the time. So if you
remember when we last left off,we were talking about this book that it
was all the rage, switchy craftypeople had to have a must have,
(02:44):
multifaceted and useful or needful item ifyou wanted to sit with the cool kids
at the cauldron, this was thebook you needed. So this was the
book that like made you immortal,right, like you couldn't drown, nobody
could kill you. This is theWarts, This is the Defensi Code of
the time, the Da Vinci.This is the book by Dan Brown of
(03:05):
that era, there was another popularbook at the time. An opposing book
also came into circulation, known asthe six and Seventh Book of Moses,
which contained instructions on conjuring and controllingdemons. Hex Doctors all around begin to
acquire copies of this book, butmerely owning it was said to be extremely
dangerous and could be even fatal.It's like, I wonder if it told
(03:29):
you how to part the seas.Let's gonna say, it's like it's a
Pokemon. They had two versions,red and Blue. So now there's two
books here. One is you know, heart goal, Yeah, one is
fatal. One is Life and PokemonLife Pokemon Death. When when that generation
one teaches you how to part theRed Sea, look at there, that's
(03:51):
Pokemon Red. In nineteen twenty eightand Stewartsontown, an event occurred that would
calls what would become known as thehex Scare. Think of the shit that
happened in the nineteen eighties and againin the nineties, and again in every
fucking decade since Satanic Panic. Allthe neighbors were hexing each other. You
(04:11):
know, it just wasn't except it'snot Satanic Panic. That now it's like,
you know, coronavirus panic, exceptnot that the panic about the coronavirus.
It's panic about how it was createdby Joe Biden or something. I
think right now, it's it's morelike world yeah, yeah, yeah,
just on crazy shit on both endsof the spectrum. Panic. Yeah,
(04:35):
it's all over the place. Thisworld's going to shit. Hey, at
least we're not hexing each other.Well, how do we know. I'm
sure there's some hexing going on somewhere. Oh yeah, yeah, that is
true. I bet there was ahex to make Joe Biden fall off that
bicycle. I saw. I waswatching John Oliver today and there's like some
water shortage going on in the statesor in like the Western states. Yeah
(05:00):
great, not here. We gotplenty of yeah in the West, in
the Western States, like um Utahand stuff. But anyways, Utah is
like really fucked and their governor's honestto God's solution for this was to have
everyone in the state prey over theweekend. No, well, it's a
it's a very Mormon state. No, he said, of every faith of
(05:24):
every faith. Wah, that thatwas. That was the governor's solution to
stop the drought. Was was preyto God. Listen, just just get
over at Utah. God wants youto die. All are Utah fans?
Goodbye? It was nice and y'all. Based on what I know about Utah,
(05:45):
this podcast is probably illegal in Utah. I don't know that we have
any listeners in Utah. Podcasts areprobably illegal there. The heck scare in
every single fucking instance of Satanic paniccan be defined thus lee stupid people trying
to understand shit that they have neitherthe intellect or reasoning to understand, and
(06:08):
then concluding that is with some otherworldly evil presence that was the cause of
it. It is a part ofevery goddamn era every decade, over and
over and over again, because peopleare, let's face it, we are
a bunch of undignified morons, allof us. Oh yeah, just history
constantly repeats itself. It does,it does, It repeats itself. Although
(06:31):
I think I think Satanic panic,at least most recent Satanic panic, it's
more of an American thing. Yeah, I don't think that happens. Probably
have your versions of Satanic panic inCanada religious here, Well, it doesn't
necessarily have to do with religion either. It's it could be any kind of
panic. The planic we had was, you know what, there was a
(06:54):
time this is true. This islike maybe a decade or so ago where
Canada wasn't doing well internationally in hockey, so they had a hockey summit.
So that's our state. Yes,yes, learn how to hit a puck
jimmy ye god, oh my gosh. But this can also be attributed.
(07:15):
So think of at length this youhave basically what America is going through currently.
Yeah, in the political amosphere,in the just the world atmosphere,
or to see the country atmosphere,which is invertently affecting other countries as well.
Right now, they are saying thatwe are currently in the fall of
(07:40):
like the Roman Empire. Right,I could see there's history repeats itself,
right, Okay, history does repeatitself. Yeah, back during the Romans,
they were the America of that time. Yeah, militarily, economically they
for the ship. Yeah, Imean Canada. Canada's going to be the
(08:05):
world leaders and then you'll all beI think we're all going to be speaking
Chinese. Oh god, but no, A lot of people are saying that
we're going through like basically like asecond you know, Great Depression almost something
similar, not obviously or not onthe not as bad as you know the
(08:28):
Great Depression was, but we're likeon the cusp of it. You know,
we're moving into a depression and weare very much right there at a
recession. Yeah, that's what we'reright there at. Canada's about to announce
that we're in a recession. Ohyeah, recessions coming. It's fixing to
happen for all of us. Everybody'sfixing. But keep in mind, recession
(08:48):
is a scary word. But thebar for recession is very low. It's
essentially if the market sees a lossfor two straight months, Like it's not
it's not like a huge deal,but they just want you to like prepare
in advance, like hey, youthings you'll always see during a recession.
Housing market goes down or people stopbuying in the house of market because it's
(09:13):
so upright. And two, gasgas prices. And here's the other thing.
Because petroleum is used to make somuch everything else goes up. H
all those plastic things that we loveso much. Guess what you need fucking
petroleum to make them. Yep,So there you go. So if gas
goes up, your toys go up. Your eight McDonald's goes up because guess
(09:39):
what you like those plastic wax rappersthat they put you fucking burger in.
Well, guess what you need patroleto make, not just not just the
rappers, but the food's got toget shipped there. And for things to
get shipped there, it needs gas. Ye needs gas, it needs plastic.
So everything goes up. I amhonestly considering an electric vehicle for the
first time. Yeah, I'm allconsidering a motorcycle. Yeah, or horseback
(10:05):
riding. You know you can.I can afford that there's plenty of those
around. Well, yeah, Imean I don't drive much because I work
from home, and I'm hoping thatstays. Maybe we should all just get
back into the bicycles. That no, No, it's it's too dangerous over
here. That's hell of dangerous.Well known among these pow wowers was a
(10:30):
name was a man named John Blimer. His alleged feats of magic include curing
a dog of rabies, and hewas generally known for having fantastic look.
Look is a random, unprejudiced thing? And is is it? Always?
Does? It ran out for Blimer? Whatever? Like whatever about a streak
(10:52):
of good luck. I'm like,something is going to happen. Oh,
like there's always that, Like thisis gonna end and just be terrible.
Speaking of luck, I want onehundred dollars on the lottery over the weekend.
Oh you know, Jeremy and Iwant a scratch off ticket one hundred
dollars to I won. I wastwo numbers away from winning sixty five million,
but I'll take the one hundred dollars. Yeah. I didn't win anything
(11:16):
this weekend. Damn. There yougo, get on our game. Maybe
I should have played. Yeah,obviously you got to buy a lottery ticket
sixty five million dollars. I'm mygod, shit, like they're stopping selling
twenty minutes. I have the apps. I'm just like kay, whatever,
he just bought it. And thenthe next day I wake up it's like
you want I'm like, okay,expecting like a free ticket or something.
It's like a one hundred bucks.I'm like, oh fuck, nice.
(11:37):
Nice. Yeah, but bad fortunebefail him. And of course, in
this worldview in which a rabbit dollarcould be cured with some magical words,
this bad luck was seen as thework of an evildoer who was hexing him
instead of some logical reason. Well, he obviously got rabies. That's yes,
(11:58):
that's if you're gonna say he gotraped, which is also possible.
I'm like, wow. From zeroto one hundred, he obviously got raped.
WOWT. Blimber began to exhibit signsof extreme paranoia, caused by his
belief that his bad luck was beingcaused purposely by another human with magical skills.
(12:22):
His wife begin to fear for herlife and have him committed to a
mental hospital for a total of fortyeight days. Nice little vacation. Now
you got to go imagine a mentalhospital in the early nineteen hundreds. Oh
yeah, I'm sure they were wonderful. I'm sure they traded everyone with the
respect and cart at bacae at breakfast, cocaine, yeah, cocaine at dinner,
(12:50):
and then they give you an enemaat eight. Oh wonderful, So
Florida Friday Night. Mental hospitals inthe early nineteen HUDs were usually referred to
as snake pits, where they triedto cure everyone using literal snakes. I
wouldn't be shocked if that's the nextsec a derogatory term that most aptly defined
the state of nearly all mental facilitiesat the time. A place of horror
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and confusion is a crowded mental hospitalwhere patients are improperly cared for, is
one of the official definitions. Well, mental hospitals back then, like people
with mental disabilities were seen as inconvenient. Yeah, and and they were like
expendable, basically the free ranged.This is like let's just put them,
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move them out of the way kindof thing, right. They would be
like experiments and sit on them.Oh yeah, yeah, but you got
to think too. Medical would discussthis again. Part medical was not at
its high point, no, ofcourse, and the early hundreds of someone's
acting quote un normal, they're goingto be like, oh my god,
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there, you can't get your dickup. We put leeches on your balls.
Ye well yeah, exactly, leecheson my balls. Right now.
I'm pretty sure that regular hospitals atthis time were also not very good.
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No, no, yeah, mentalhospitals were probably very worse or more worse
than your regular hospital, right,yeah, I didn't care about because host
regular hospitals, I think that theytried, they just didn't know how to
fix you. Mental hospitals they knewnothing. They just thought like, oh,
this person's lost cause let's just givethem cocaine. Yeah. If people
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were able to actually get out ofmental hospitals at the time, they were
almost never the same person as whenthey went in physical mental any emotional states
were often in deterioration. If thesame person was accused of something which landed
them in a mental hospital, theymight enter sane, but to exit,
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to exit sane, if they evergot out at all, was very rare,
so they would exit as a nutter. Yeah. Oh yeah, no,
the mental torture that goes on,well that went on in those hospitals,
it would, yeah, it wouldhow prisons work now, where you're
they're supposed to rehabilitate you, butthen you become a bigger criminal. Yeah,
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but I think I would assume thatmental hospitals today also probably are in
the same realm. Yeah, I'mnot saying I don't think as bad just
because we have laws now and stuffthat you know that kind of protect We
have laws for prison too, andlook at them. Yeah yeah, but
prisons, prisons are private. Keepthat prisons are privately run by private companies.
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I mean, I guess hospitals inthe states are too. But here
hospitals are government funded, so oursare not privately there. Ours are state
owned, right, but they're fundedby you. But I don't get any
caught be like, look, Iwant my ham sandwich every day. Hell
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no, you a free ham sandwich. No, not from the prison.
Chocolate chip cookie that probably eat likea rock. Oh yeah no no,
no, not from the from thehospital. Okay, are you sure that's
a chocolate chip cookie. I don'tknow. I will say this hospital,
hospital, jail food. It's terrible. Hospital. You had jail food once,
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just once once, once I bowedto never go back. Now.
It was I was twenty years oldand the hand to deal with alcohol.
Oh stupid, I'm underage up thereone nineteen In most provinces, it's twenty
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one here. I remember I went. It was like midnight or whatever.
I was in there for forty eighthours. Played U got put in population,
had a great time, was bunkingwith my body, had a great
time, made some friends. Jailnot prison, right, Well yeah,
yeah, big big checkers. You'renot really getting checkers. You know,
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you're not really getting the hearted criminalsand jailed just like it put you away.
Everybody was timeout. Jail is timeout. Do you remember the food that
they gave you? Huh? Youremember the food that they gave did you?
The food was fucking terrible. Itwas terrible. When I tell you,
on the scale of entertaining, howbad it was negative ten? No,
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it was bad. Oh hell no, it was bad. Like the
pancake. Like they brought you breakfastin the morning. You got breakfast around
five, five thirty in the morning. That is so early they wake your
ass up at five. Oh helldamn um. But the breakfast they brought
it was the pancake. Yeah.I had a pancake on there. Let
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me tell you something. I couldhave broke a damn car windshield with it.
Did they at least give you alittle syrup and the grits? The
grits I could have drank them.The eggs were okay, the eggs were
fine, yeah, and then thesausage was fun. Yeah. But the
grits and the pancake I ate them. I was hunger. Oh, hospital
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food gets a batter, app Butwhen we were in the hospital, when
we're waiting for Delilah to come intothis world, um, not so bad.
The chicken was very um bland becauseit's mind like, it's very like,
I mean, they give you pep, you have to pepper, but
I think what was it? Yeah, I think they gave lies a tomato
soup but she doesn't like it,or they gave her some kind of soup
that she doesn't like. So I'mlike, okay, I'll eat it because
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I just went to the cafeteria usually, so I'd eat the food she didn't
like, and tomato soup was fine. Like yeah, it also depends yeah,
and most hospitals are hit and miss. Yeah. I also think it
depends on what you're in for.Because she was in for pregnancy, so
she didn't need a special diet,right, Typically the hospitals that are used
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for childbirth, the food it's alwaysbetter, Yeah, because because there's no
way there's nothing really there for specialneed, like there's no special dietary needs.
Really. I mean I mostly wentto the cafeteria if I want to.
Yeah, that's where I what Idid when both of mine. Yeah.
Yeah, So I just to leteverybody know I do not have a
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criminal yes, yeah, no,I've been to I went. The one
time I was there, I belledout, showed up to court, and
my name was not on the docketand was told don't you ever fucking come
back here there that that that wasenough to scare you. I did nothing.
I mean, I was drinking UNDERAGEAthat's whatever. That's it's It's not
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like I went out and held upan a hooper, although you should have
you might have. At the endof that does sound like I mean money?
No, damn that was two.I was twenty. I'm thirty three
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now. Damn. Yeah, sowhat thirteen years ago, fourteen years ago,
it was a long time ago.Women who experienced extreme postpartum depression,
or even those who had had itpronounced opinion of the world were doomed for
these houses of hellish in humanities.Think of the horror movies about insane asylums,
and that's pretty much what they wereactually like back then. It was
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like Arkham, but way worse.Oh wonderful? Why so serious? I
think everybody, if you, ifyou are listening to this, you don't
know what Arkham is. Arkham isthe prison or mental institution in Batman.
What is wrong with the Gotham's crimeLike, why does anyone live in Gotham
City? The crime rate is likeone hundred and fifty percent. Um.
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I mean, there just seems tobe like a lot of mental illness in
that city Nis Detroit, and yeahyeah yeah, but like not like your
routine mental illness where you know someoneis you know, just needs a couple
happy pills or whatever. This isjust like, yeah, I'm a clown
that likes to kill people. Imean, why not. No, it
sounds like a fun place to live. John Wayne Gacy was a clown that
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liked to kill boys. That istrue. Yeah, that is true.
He didn't go to Arkham. Heshould have been to him death. Blimer
was not released from the mental asylum. It is said that he disappeared,
which one would take to me thathe had managed to escape, but because
of the legends surrounding him, itwould appear that he had magically vanished or
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yeah, just out of thin airappeared. Honestly, you know what it
probably was. It was probably evenless interesting. They probably lost track of
him and he just like left,like it was even like some daring escape.
He just like walked out the frontdoor, like hey, where is
He's like it's like, oh,yeah, he disappeared. John Blimber turned
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up at a cigar factory. Wherehe used to work in nineteen twenty eight.
He was determined to find the causeof his curse, and was even
more so found out he placed itupon him. Blimer soon turned to the
River Witch of Marietta, or NellyKnoll. She identified Blimber's enemy as a
member of the Rhymer family. Hejust pointed to a name in the phone
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books, like it's one of theseguys. Oh yeah, because you know
they had phone books back then,the Rhyma family, they might have.
I mean, if her name isthe river Witch of Marietta, I don't
think you should be talking about whendid phone books come out. I'm gonna
I'm gonna look this up. Yeah, now I need to know. I
don't think they were around in thetwenty oh, that's what I would say.
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I don't think that she could havejust went all right, yeah,
the fifties of the sixties, Yeah, eighteen seventy nine, we were you
learned something new every day. Whatthe That's crazy, at least in Toronto.
So I imagine it's like, Idon't know about the States, but
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I mean imagine probably earlier because we'rewhen was Canada founded seven or not seven?
Well, technically like the sixteen hundred, but eighteen sixties, I know,
but officially as its own country eighteensixty seven. Okay, so I'm
pretty sure the States had it that. Yeah, yeah, I had a
phone, but apparently the first phonebook that had all of Toronto's phone subscribers
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and all business and personal fit onsix pages. So there you go.
It's not much of a bus wholemagazine phone flyer. Again, it's all
coming full circle now. When heasked which family member, she asked him
to hold out his hand. WhenBlimer looked down at his palm, the
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face of Noon Rhymer appeared on hisclamy skin. Nellie Noll stated that to
remove the curse, he needed totake Rhymer's copy of the Long Lost Friend
and a lock of his hair andbury them six feet under the ground.
Oh yeah, Like any rational person, Blimer and a friend decided to enact
their vengeance own Nelson Rhymer. I'mglad it's not like that. Actually,
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no, you know what, itis kind of like that. It is
like that because there was the pizzashop incident, pizza Gate. Oh,
someone actually thought there was a pedophilweringand a pizza shop and they actually thought
there was a basement that there wasn't. Blimer and another man went to Rhymer's
door asking to speak with him.Rhymer allowed them to stay the night as
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it was late. When they arrived. They were unable to secure his spell
book or a lock of his hair, and they left the following morning seeking
more help. Just told him downand cut his hair. Oh yeah,
you know what they should have done. They should have just said, hey,
can we borrow your book real quick? And can we just get a
piece of your hair. I havea fetish. I think that wouldn't go
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well. I don't know. Itmight have maybe in Florida, but I
don't think not around this time.I don't. I don't know. You
don't know how Blimer worked. Hemay have been like cool man, yeah,
true. Blimer decided that they neededmore manpower to subdue Rhymer, as
he was a large and imposing man. They came back the following evening,
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November twenty seventh, and tackled himto the ground in his living room,
and although varying stories of what wentdown that night exist, one happening remains
the same. During the struggle,Rhymer was beaten and strangled to death.
Really, do you want to giveup his hair? No? Damn,
that's all the Witch of Marietta's fault. Ye. When they realized they had
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killed a man, they staged thehome to look as though it had been
robbed. They then doused the bodywith kerosene and lit it on fire,
being the flames would burn the entirehouse down. Well, this is where
the story takes that strange strange no, because he didn't do was? The
witch said? Well, no,no, no, this is where that
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story takes a strange term. Okay. When they left, Rhymer's body was
engulfed in flames, but soon afterthe flames mysteriously went out. Two days
later, a neighbor discovered Rhymer's bodyand alerted authorities. The crime stunned the
community, and Blimer was soon pickedup as a suspect. Maybe maybe maybe
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he was wearing clothes that were entirelyasbestos. I don't know how he thought
that that was gonna work. Ijust s you would think during that time
a lot of people still wore thingswere coton yeah and wool, right,
especially they're doing the twenties. Idon't because I think most people who are
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rich had the I think people weredoing satin at that time. Oh yeah,
I'm sure they were or silk,yeah, but you had to have
a lot of money to have those. But I think the majority of people
were cotton and wool. So yeah, that's flammable as fuck. Oh yeah,
yeah, no, he's wearing parasbestos. The media coverage of the
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crime focused on Blimer's obsession with hexes, and soon that was set as the
reason for the murder. Soon after, many crimes following were attributed to the
supernatural folk magic began to be blamedfor all that went wrong around Pennsylvania and
were labeled as hex murders. Gottablame something. Yep, it's not the
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people, I know. We'll see. That's the crazy thing. The man
was killed over something a crock pottold another crock pot. Yeah yeah,
yeah, essentially, that's exactly whathappened. That's like Twitter today. Twitter
is a cesspool of shit, shit, shit shit. Oh that's pretty cool
(28:06):
shit yeah yeah. And then oncein a while boobs boobs porn obviously,
that's it's like I hate that one. Like someone like follows something porn related
and they retweet it, so likeyou're scrolling down, and it's like normal,
normal, normal, normal, juststraight up porn normal. And it
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really sucks when that happens while you'reat work. Oh yeah, yeah,
and he's like scroll scroll. Youcan turn a thing on that makes like
a filter in there. You canyeah, you can put a filter on.
Yeah there, that's like automatic nowwhere it's just like this might contain
sensitive, bitter, and then youclick it because you're curious. Seems like
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much like the witch scares of theseventeen hundred and eighteen hundreds, and like
the Satanic panic that would follow ina few decades. It was a big
old cluster fuck of accusations and hatred, finger pointing, in denials, heavy
paranoia. I think Hawthorne short story, Young Goodman Brown. It was quite
a kerfuffle, to say the least. So nothing has changed, then,
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okay, no, got it.No, it's just there's always pan what
It doesn't matter what decade you're in, there's a panic on something, whether
it's Satan or you know, pizzapedophile rings or you know, pex's monkey
pox, COVID Republicans, Democrats,whatever, Communists, communists was a big
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one. That's a real fear though, that is a real fear they're coming
after here. It's not it is. I mean there's communists, there's dictators,
there's whatever. You know what Ido. I enjoy my arcade cabinets.
No, I enjoy doing this withy'all. Say. I enjoy eating
at Taco Bell four days a week. Taco Bell's great four days a week.
Thought, Taco Bell four talk aboutfantastic? Are you like constantly on
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the toilet? No, here's thething. When you eat Taco Bell regularly,
you become immune to it, right, because you can get an immunity.
Christ I'm not even like when Imoved in with um Liza's family,
like after we got married, theywould have Taco Bell over your week,
and at first, like we comehome and I'd run to the bathroom.
Then after like a few weeks,it's just like okay, whatever, like
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you just your body's used to it. That is all our Taco Bell fans
out there. The Crispy Chicken tacois back. The avocado rantwin is the
one to get. You don't havethat here, I don't think unless we
do, because like chose your menuso so often that I could say that
and then we have it so Idon't know. Today the home sits in
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a hollow known as Hecks Hollow,and it's vacant. The sentence of Nelson.
Rhymer and his new and its newowners have been trying to turn the
house into a museum to display Nelson'slife and his murder. I wonder if
it's haunted. We're getting to that, man, Look at there. This
Like I told you, this episodefeatures kind of the conspiracy element, the
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paranormal element, and the true crimeelement. Right, it had everything.
Yeah, the home is said bylocals to be haunted and is still furnished
with many of Rhymer's original below.That's crazy and also really cool. Yeah,
a portion of the kitchen floor hasbeen covered over, has been covered
over with glass, with the scortchfloorboards beneath it, the area where Blimer
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started that they have to make thismuseum. Yeah, I know, that's
especially like all the original furnitures.They're just like, you know, de
dust the house and we d dustthe house. I mean you walk around
the area where his body was seton fire, still there. Yeah.
Accounts from local residents tale of shadowyfigures lurking around the property. Window one
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is there almost people looking for coppermaybe. Others state that if you throw
pebbles at the home, it willthrow them back. It's it's almost people
that are staying at the home thatyou're throwing pebbles at them. Disembodied voices
have also been recorded in the forestsurrounding the home, almost people, and
a black dog with red eyes,a symbol of debt, has been spotted
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roaming the property. Homeless death dog. You know, crazy thing about like
um dogs with red eyes. Um, my dad back in New York where
there was like an apartment or whateverthat he was am walking here, that's
when he heard at the middle ofthe night. I'm just setting the scene
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for ye. So apparently there waslike some crazy thing that happened in that
apartment and there was a dog thatthe owners I guess like the dog passed
away or whatever, and they buriedhim in the closet, like they literally
took the floorboards out, put thedog underneath the thing, and then you
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know whatever. Granted, there's noplace to bury an animal in New York
City, right, so that's whatthey needed to do. And guess what
that room that my dad was stayingin, that closet was where the dog
was buried or whatever. And hesaid one time, in the middle of
the night he saw a dog withred eyes like peering out from him,
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like through the closet, and hefucking booked it. He was gone.
Well, they typically say that adog with red eyes, Yeah, it
is a symbol of death. Yeah, but is also considered what they call
a hellhound. Yeah, right,Typically hellhounds are seen within cemeteries. Yeah,
so that is m So it wasno good. No, he said,
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there was like bad juju there,like it was odd. I consider
chihuahuas to be hellhounds. No,Chihuahuas are literally born out of the poles
of saving there. They are somean, they are so angry. One
nice chihuahua in my life, andit was when I was a kid.
We took our cat to the vetand we were waiting and there was another
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woman waiting and she had a verysmall chihuahua named Taco appropriately and yeah,
it was very small, it wasvery cute. It let me, he
let me pat him, but hewas very scared, so he was shaking,
but he was very like. Helet me come up and pet him,
and he was very nice and hedidn't take your fingers off. That
he did not take my fingers off, So that is the one nice Chihuahua
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I have met. Now, thatdog's probably long dead as I was a
kid, but small dogs live long, so that dog could be you know,
twenty Yeah. Still walking around thishome remembers the tragedy that occurred here,
and many believed that the house itselfis cursed, which is why it
refused to burn down despite its veryflammable construction materials. Now, if you're
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watching us on the Crime of Conspiracynetwork, you have seen a picture of
this house. It's solid fucking wood. Oh yeah, and as we know,
wood is not flammable. There areeven tales of weird lights, UFOs,
strange ghostly animals, and regular humanoidghost spotted in the area, especially
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centered on the house where the murderoccurred. And those are all homeless people,
especially the UFOs flying homeless people.It could happen, Oh yeah,
we got those everywhere, spare change. It is quite common for ghostly tales
and legends to spring up around murdersites, doubly so when the murder was
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committed in the name of the occult. Most business savvy townsfolk will tend to
take advantage of course, of course, come on, come on, you
have to. I mean I willnot exactly. Oh yeah, by the
house turn into a museumbily comes seeyou where the man was murdered. Roswell,
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roswell, New Mexico. Like theylean heavily into the alien ship like
you. You have to. It'sfree, like gets free publicity. You
didn't have to think of anything.It just happened. Take advantage of it.
No, that's why I'm so likeshocked that they haven't made this into
a museum yet. Honestly, there'sprobably a lot of reasons to it too.
Yeah, it might be a townor city thing, county thing as
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well. Yeah, I guess too, because I guess if it's like considered
residential and they have to make itlike commercial, well it's not even that
either. It's also publicizing murder,so you don't. Yeah, some towns
are like, cool, let's doit kind of like the uh boarding house.
Yeah yeah, yeah, you knowthis would be kind of consider that
same thing, like you could doan overnight stay at this house. Yeah
(36:50):
yeah, type of thing. Althoughbeing the side of a brutal murderer is
never something to be proud of.After enough time has passed, you can
use that levee lad and to luretourists and curious folks to your town.
Yep. So like what we justtalked about, yep. And based on
the legends surrounding such places, themajority of people who go to these places
go there expecting to see something scaryor otherworldly. And with that expectation in
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mind, even blowing of the windcould be construed as something strange. And
for those who go there expecting tofind something but do not, there is
a pressure on them to recount somethingfantastic rather than mundane. I saw a
bunch of flying homeless people. IfI saw that, I would have to
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say something about it would be amazing. No, no, but you used
to be those videos you could buy. You remember, there used to be
I don't know if you remember this, back when we were kids, girls
gone wild all that stuff be infommercials, yes, right, and late at
night be infommercials. And used tobe like this, like three of buying
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these vases of um, a girl'sgone wild? That guy got the ship
suit out of him? Did hereally? Oh? Yeah? Videos a
lot of them. There's the underageissue. There were some people who didn't
actually consent to being on the video. Oh yeah, you also have During
that time, you had these videosthat were like, I can't remember what
(38:22):
the name, but they had violentin the title. It was like volume
one, Volume two, Volume three, and it was literally videos of people
fucking dying. Yeah what the fuck? Yeah? Yes? How did they
what? How can these cells shitlike get this? Not only that,
you also had the videos of bumfights. Do you remember those? What
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bum bumb fights? Volume one two? Amazing? It was literally a guy
going around paying homeless people to fuckingbeat the shit out of you. Yes,
that is terrible. There was aCD underground of VHS tapes back in
the mid nineties, just say.There was Have you guys heard of the
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I'm using the term very loosely,but video game Hong Kong ninety eight or
Hong Kong ninety seven or whatever itis. So essentially it was like a
joke game made by I don't thinkguy was Japanese or Trainings. They think
was Japanese, and it was likea like a very crude, shoot him
up kind of thing. It wassupposed to make fun of communism in China
(39:27):
or something. And then if youdied. It showed a picture of a
dead body, well what people assumedwas a dead body, and everyone's like,
what is the source of this image? Like there are creepy pastas going
around. Oh, the guy whomade this video game killed that person and
he made it. But what happened? So they eventually found it where this
came from, and it was infact an actual like dead person from one
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of those VHS tapes that are justlike oh death, you know volume one
that's like that. There's like aboxer. I think you're like indeed or
something. Yeah, I'm familiar thesevideos. The only reason I'm not going
to say who owned it because Iremember being a kid and a person all
of these tapes, and of courseas a kid, you're curious. Now
(40:12):
you can just find it on theinternet very easily. And I remember seeing
a video with a person's head exploding. Yeah, you know, it's just
crazy. It was just the mostviolent shit you've ever seen in life.
But there was like literally this CDunderground VHS right of videos yea, and
most of them got sued out ofoblivion. Yeah. Well that's like the
(40:32):
you know, like the Gore sitsand stuff, like what was the one
the super popular rotten Yeah. Yeah, they had some like messed up shit.
They're still there, by the way, ye, so really I thought
they got taken down a long timeago. No, they're still there.
Wow. And so we're going tocontinue on with this, And so the
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legends continue with a true account storyfrom our writer in researcher Steph. How
many fling hobos did she find?She is actually from Pennsylvania, So here
you go. Having never heard ofthis place before, Steph can recount a
trip to hexan Cough Rock in whicha very strange thing occurred, which leads
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Steph in a conundrum of being askeptic who possibly experienced something supernatural. Upon
leaving the woods. After a tripto the rock, Steph's two friends Gary
and Barbe yelled startled at something.Barbe saw a glowing light like a flashlight
appear in front of her. Garysaid he saw a man wearing a bomber
(41:37):
jacket holding a flashlight, but couldsee through the men. Stephanie saw nothing.
Here we go. Weeks later,at twilight with a different group of
friends, Steph, out of thecorner of her eye, saw a man
with a bomber jacket walking next toher holding a flashlight. She could see
right through him. I assume Twilightmeeting. She went to see the movie
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Twilight. Oh yeah, yeah,Well that explains, you know, the
guy holding the flashlight. There wasone factor about this sighting that neither Gary
nor Steff shared with each other.Upon hearing about this sighting, Gary said,
I don't think we saw the samething. What I saw didn't have
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leg head, a head, orlegs, just a floating torso. That
was the one description that had notshared that they had not shared with each
other until afterwards, and it seemedto confirm that they had both seen the
same thing in the same general areaat different time. I'm going to say
the bomb jacket didn't work. Ifhe doesn't have any limbs, it's just
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a floating jacket. However, areview of ghost stories of the Lehigh Valley
after the sighting, they discovered thatthere was a legend of a floating floating
torso like ghost in the area.Did the three people see something for real?
Did Barb, Gary and Steph reallysee a ghost? Or was it
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that they thought they saw something basedon things that they had previously but had
forgotten. MM couldn't tell you butif you didn't know the story of the
floating bomber jacket, the floating torso, then it's not in your head right
right, So possibly, yes,you could have seen something. I believe
(43:24):
in an afterlife. I said thisseveral different times in the paranormal in some
way or form. Yeah, asa skeptic, staff has no answer for
this and can only shrug and say, whatever it was, it was pretty
fucking neat. And that's the pointof these things. At their heart,
(43:45):
these are legends, and they arefor fun, for rumors, for spooky
parables. Whether or not something wasreally there, it was the experience and
the aftermath of wondering about it thatmade it worthwhile. Yeah, you know
the thing about these stories is,you know, there take it. You
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don't take it to heart, youknow, like, have fun with it,
have fun with they you know,it's just a story. It's just
a legend. It's not like,you know, don't need to burn someone
alive over No, they get exaggerated. Things are built out of actual things
that have happened or people have seen, and then they exaggerate over the years.
Right, Yeah, the place couldthe broken telephone it, Yeah,
(44:30):
the place could actually be haunt it, right, but by all these different
things that they're saying probably not yeah, yeah, like may have a flying
you see you see you seem flyinglights. But I imagine this home is
in a remote location where there's starsout right, so you can actually see
the stars. You might see somethingshoot across the sky. It could be
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a shooting star or just something you'renot going to see something they're talking about
maybe of like the floating balls oflight that people typically see paranormal wives within
the woods. Now some of thathas been debunked, especially if you're in
a swampy area because then you havethe gas. Yeah, and that has
been debunked. So also what happensafter Taco Bell? But it could she
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could have seen something? Yeah,well well we'll say maybe maybe haunted.
But that's going to end the series. That's the closing. That's it nice
through Rhymer's hollow. Yeah well that'spretty cool though, I like, you
know, I had never heard ofthis story and it was really interesting learning
about it. So it's funny thinkingit's like, oh, these people are
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so stupid, they just believe whatever. But look at today history itself.
We would like to thank our veryon writer and researcher Stephanie Kimmember for all
the hard work and dedications she putinto the series. On the Rhymer's hollow
curves, we would like to thinkthe resources used for our series American Haunting
Saint Philly, goos Stewartstown dot Org, Coffin Bell Visit Pa, Dutch Country
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only in your state, Atlas Obscura, Collins Dictionary, and the book ghost
Stories of the Lee High Valley.Now here's the part I always repeat myself
and all this don't forget. Ifyou want more, we have it for
you. You can help support theshow but also get more bonus content.
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of Side Crime. Next week,patrons, you're getting a brand new episode
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infamous Fatal Frame house. Oh thatwas based well, this is the house
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that helped the game create the gameFatal Frame. If you did not know,
Fatal Frame is based on a truestory, I did not know that.
And it's a great horror game,by the way, So if you've
not played it is you have toplay it. Fatal Frame two is the
best one. Just I haven't playedeither of them. I've played them all
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fake game game. I'm a fakegamer. You are get out of here.
Nick fake gamer. So that's whatwe're going to be going to.
So more paranormal stuff on the AfterShow. Any closing thoughts before we sign
off here on this episode of eventhe podcast as afraid Um, watch out
for the flying homeless. Yes,yeah, flying homeless. Tip your local
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flying homeless man a buck. Youknow, yep, every homeless person.
I don't know about every home,but a lot of homeless people in Canada
they always have a Tim Horton's cup. Nice. Interesting, so they collect
their money, well Tim coffee.It's like a buck thirty. It's cheap,
you know it is. Yeah,so it keeps them a white kem
a boost. Yeah, there yougo. So tip your local homeless man
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a buck or a woman a buck. Well, all right, patrons,
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