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May 24, 2025 37 mins

Zach (00:01.496)

Hi, thanks for listening to the Everything and Anything in a Bit Gay podcast. Today I have two guests I am really, really excited to have on. Rob and Gary, they are both partners and founders of a organization called the Journey Man Collective. And we're gonna go through and talk about what that is and what that means and talk about their whole business. that's, from what I have read and seen the website, I'm so interested in their business. So welcome to the show.

 

Gary Logan And Rob Grover (00:29.031)

Thanks, Zach. Thank you for having us.

 

Zach (00:31.48)

So tell me a little bit about what the Journeyman Collective actually is, or tell my audience what it is, because I know what it is.

 

Gary Logan And Rob Grover (00:37.875)

So we founded or co-created this company in 2018 and it wasn't like just one day we decided to start serving people mushrooms, magic mushrooms. We have a depth of understanding of the mind, body and soul of human beings and human potential. And we went through a tumultuous experience.

 

Zach (00:51.886)

Mm-hmm.

 

Gary Logan And Rob Grover (01:07.315)

known as Death, Gary's mom, who lived with us for three and half years. She passed away very suddenly. And I'm giving you the very quick goals notes version.

 

Zach (01:16.765)

Yeah, yeah, this is, yeah.

 

Gary Logan And Rob Grover (01:19.239)

And when she passed, we were struck with a new found aspect of depression, grief, Gary experienced anxiety in a new way. And all the tools, all the mind, body, conscious meditation, breath work, all the things that we had in our back pocket just weren't shifting it. And so this woman, we say this little fairy woman walked into our lives and

 

She said, you might want to think about going on a journey. And I immediately scoffed at her and said, I've done mushrooms before. What are you talking about? And then she said, no, no, no, like it's really, really helped me. And it just kept coming up in conversation. And within six months of that initial conversation, I found myself in a guided journey. Depression gone, grief gone.

 

Gary saw the shift in me. And I said, wow, mushrooms can do this. Holy shit. So I spoke to the medicine man and I booked in on my birthday. And I always say it's the best birthday gift one could give oneself. I completed that journey and I felt at peace, calm, contentment. The grief and depression had subsided and found a purpose in my life.

 

Zach (02:23.885)

Yeah.

 

Gary Logan And Rob Grover (02:47.295)

and I was happier. I shared with Rob is like, some of the visions that came through said that this is the medicine we're supposed to work with alongside our personal development programs or mind, body, conscious awareness training. And how does that look?

 

Zach (03:07.542)

And were you doing, so it like you tried meditation and breath work, other things that you, did you learn this from someone or went to classes or this is just part of what your everyday life was about and just not working?

 

Gary Logan And Rob Grover (03:22.707)

Yeah, like Gary's been studying the Alexander technique. Which is mind, body, conscious awareness training since 1985. So I've been a teacher since 2005, but it started when I was 17 years old, getting connected to self and theatre school. And they teach meditation and body movement and body awareness and breath work. So I've been with that style of living for over 40 years.

 

Zach (03:31.799)

Okay.

 

Gary Logan And Rob Grover (03:52.179)

So we're just contemplating life, thinking about life on a deeper level and then using your mind to create that which you want in your reality. Both Gary and I have always been sort of, we always move towards that which we want in life and we have no regrets whatsoever. And it was shown to us that we were to come together not only as

 

as a couple because we were married in 2017 and then a few months later Gary's mom passes away. This new aspect of life was sort of like opened up and we walked down the hall in our home every single day and it was like a really rude awakening every single day to not see someone in her bedroom. And it was like, wow, life happens quickly.

 

Zach (04:43.65)

Yeah.

 

Gary Logan And Rob Grover (04:50.611)

And after the journey, I had this joy lit up inside of me again. I was like, wow, I really want to like deepen my own practice in life. And also I want to help other people get there.

 

Zach (05:04.302)

Tell me what your journey was like. So Gary, when you went for your birthday, what was that? Was that a day session, one session? Were you gone for a week? Tell me about that.

 

Gary Logan And Rob Grover (05:15.571)

Sure, arri

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