October 1, 2025 • 45 mins
Getting turned on to a musician from a children's song is weird enough - let alone when it's an indie hip-hop legend. This week we listen to Aesop Rock for the first time, rank nostalgic 80s songs, and give you five more songs to renew your passion for music.
What do you think of “The Impossible Kid?” What 80s acts bring you right back to that wild time? Let us know in the comments!Listen to songs on the Extended Playlist (Spotify, YouTube).Like/follow/subscribe to Extended Play. Join the Extended Family on Patreon for even more playlists.
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We're going to talk about The Impossible Kid by Aesop Rock,
80s nostalgia acts, and as always, your extended playlist
from us to you because we love you right now.
An extended play. Welcome to extended play
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renewing your passion 5 songs ata time me.
Tank. Yeah, and today we're going to
get into an album review in a little bit of the ASAC Rock
album, Something from the Crate,Crate.
Something from the crate, yeah. Something from a few years back,
but not quite a classic. We'll give you a 5 songs, renew
your passion for music at the end and our extended playlist.
Yes. And also, we're going to
countdown to top ten, yeah. Of 80s nostalgia acts, which we
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will define better when the timecomes.
That's right, Not right now. Yeah.
But right now we want to be kindof timely and talk about the the
Coachella lineup just got announced for 2026.
Earliest time, earliest they've ever announced this.
The lineup. Yeah, it's like practically a
year away. So I, I saw a note on, I'm going
to assume Reddit about how people are noticed.
So it doesn't, it hasn't sold out the last two or three years
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or something like that. And that every year they keep
moving it up ostensibly because they think, well, if we just
give people more time, it'll sell out, right?
But I would I would propose thattime isn't the issue it.
Doesn't seem like it when you'relooking at the line up and we
have the line up right here and you know, you can read 1000
think pieces on this already, right?
And every year there's somethinglike that.
But I think the biggest news arethe headliners, which is just
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they just fully leaned into fullpop with Sabrina Carpenter,
Justin Bieber and Carol G as their three headlining artists,
which there's there's a whole lot we could dig into there.
I mean, I think the first, one of the first things to talk
about is like what I realized isthat this, this show is clearly
not for us. But who is it for?
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That's then that's a bigger question.
We're old yes, we're old yeah. Festivals in general like 3 day
long there's. Not AVIP tent with a seat and
air conditioning. I'm not going.
Right. But Even so, us being so into
music, the chance to see so manyacts, you would think there'd be
something for us here. But I feel like, OK, I feel like
festivals come in two flavours. And some are like, like, I want
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to say celebrations or whatever,you know, traditions, yeah, like
rock and ring in Germany. Like, OK, there's some things
that like where the festival hasa history to where it's like
artists kind of want to play there.
It's fun. And the other type are festivals
of acts no one would pay full price to see on their.
Own. Sure, sure.
It happens, right? It's like it's OK, you know,
here's a bunch of things, like they're all like, you would
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maybe see them, right? But probably not.
But if you put 50 in the same place, like, yeah, I'll go
right, right. Coachella, you would think,
would be the former. Yes.
But I don't think it is. I think Coachella thinks they're
the former. Yes.
But all the artists that say no thanks, which like, you know,
they said Kendrick Lamar said no.
A whole lot of people said no. It's like, I think it's starting
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to turn into the ladder of like,can we put enough to make you
buy a ticket? And I don't know that they have.
Yeah, the, the, the line up is so strange.
I mean, so we've done and I'll link to it in the show notes or
maybe up here over there. Actually, we've broken down,
we've gone through and quizzed ourself on how many of the the
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artists we knew, which it's not a lot even though we listen, you
know, obviously we have our own music podcast.
We're talking about music all the time.
And there's still, I mean, it only takes you to get down to
the second or third line in thisposter before you're like, I
don't know who. Sometimes the first.
Before you don't know who any ofthese people are.
But even even when you do know who they are, the, the, the
blend is so strange like becauseconceivably the the the you
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know, it goes in like declining popularity right as you go down
larger. To smaller font.
Yeah, so, so you start off with Sabrina Carpenter.
OK, So again, headliners are allpop, but then immediately your
second Bills, right On all threedays.
Sabrina Carpenter, it's The xx, right?
They haven't played together in 10 years or something like that.
I'm sorry. That's very weak for a #2 slot.
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It's weird. It's weird.
It's weak. Yeah.
The Strokes under Justin Bieber.That's strange too.
That whatever. Again, we're talking about kind
of nostalgia, you know, almost anostalgia range.
And then Young Thug after Carol GI.
Don't. Even know who that is and then.
It's hip hop obviously like. Exactly right, but I assumed it
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wasn't. It wasn't classical pianist.
Right, It would that would be awesome.
That would be the so it's just strange that immediately like
you're trying to capture the zeitgeist to kind of with
Sabrina Carpenter and then immediately going to nostalgia
like it's I would. Guess that the cohesion is not a
concern of theirs, right? That it's like, I think my guess
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would be that their marketing approach is the headliners are
completely separate from everything.
OK, OK. And it's like, if you want to
see Sabrina Carpenter bad enough, Yeah.
First of all, if you want to go to Coachella because you're an
influencer or otherwise, sure, sure.
Mentally impaired. You're you're buying a ticket.
So they're done. Then it's the I want to see
Sabrina Carpenter or blah, blah,blah.
Then the next group down is all right, what can we put in this
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Stew to get people to go? It's enough.
I think I'll go. Yeah, sure.
And as I mean, now the interesting things are the two
big theories I heard. Is that OK?
So 9 inch noise. Yeah, I read about that.
It's 9 Inch Nails and some, I don't know, the other artist, I
should have remembered better, but it has an organized noise.
It has noise in the name and they've collaborated before.
So maybe effectively 9 Inch Nails is on the card.
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Potentially, yes. And there is some talk about
this whole Radiohead. Oh yeah, there's something about
kid amnesia, whatever. But like, there's some talk that
Radiohead will be the surprise appearance.
I doubt it. Yeah, I, I.
Doubt it. Radiohead is not the kind of
thing you do as a surprise. If you have them, we advertise
them. And looking at this line up, I
don't know I think. They're going to say pass.
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Right. The, well, the people that would
buy tickets to this wouldn't necessarily want to see
Radiohead, right? You know what I mean?
Right. And I feel like they, I mean, we
could be egg on our faces where they show up totally.
But I feel like they would want to have more control over the
environment. They're not touring much.
And it's like, right, Those are precious dates.
It's like, do you really want towaste on a bunch of kids whacked
out on ecstasy in the desert in California somewhere?
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Yeah. I mean, that sounds like A and
by the way, I think that our oldness is offset by our podcast
Ness. Yeah, I would agree with that.
So it's like we we're old. But I think if you balance that
with the fact that we sort of have to pay attention, yeah, we
it balances out to be a young person, a mainstream young
person who's not on top of music.
Like whether or not we would actually physically go is
actually not important, right, right.
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Like because we will not becausewe will because we would not
right be for all the reasons three days standing the whole
time, right, being uncomfortable.
Yeah. But conceivably would we go to
see these kind of acts? And I think so I would say no,
right. We wouldn't go.
I do have a little caveat in that.
I wonder how how many people do you think go that have a very in
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depth knowledge of most of theseacts?
Very little, very few. Do you think a lot of people are
going there? What do you think the balance is
between people that are going there for the experience, for
the vibes, right for the socialsversus I'm going there to
discover new music? Oh, for that 90 to 1090, see.
And this would be a very like, Icould see myself going to
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something like this for that reason.
Yes. OK, So if I want to be like, I
don't know who any of these people are, I got it.
I want to know. So let me ask you this.
Yes, I think that maybe the the best way to evaluate how good
this is. Let's say that there was a high
def stream. There is.
OK, Yeah. Well OK there you go.
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But let's say OK so you have a high def stream, it's free and
but the catch is you need to either not watch any of it or
commit to watching 5 hours a day5.
Hours a day. Right, which is not even the
full day, right? So if the headliner wraps up at
10 or 11, so basically say look for for two or three days in a
row, will you sit and watch from6 to 11 looking at this?
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No, I'm not exactly no. So it's free yeah, you don't
have to go anywhere and you still don't want to do and
they're going to curate it for you right in the live stream.
You they're not doing all of this right.
They're not doing all the side stages.
They'll they they cherry pick and who knows?
I'm sure there's payola and all sorts of shit that goes into
like what gets broadcast, but sexual favors?
I mean, just for the, you know, if you're listening or watching
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and you haven't looked at it yet.
I mean, so Sabrina Carpenter, the XX9 inch noise just reading
the top level, so turnstiles there.
Which, yeah, which would be great.
Yeah, they've been killing it onthe festival circuit.
So disclosure. DJs.
OK, Ethel Kane. I'm interested in her hunt.
OK, no more. Dijon.
Modern R&B kind of OK. Pass Teddy swims, pass and then
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Cat's. Eye.
I don't know what cat's eye is, but it's all caps which.
Is probably a DJ. Exactly.
And then I mean Devo. Devo and sexy red.
Yeah. Lead up the next and Foster The
People. Which, OK, I'm not.
I don't want to. I don't see Devo.
No, I don't need to see devo. No, I mean it might be like fun.
Yeah, I guess if I'm, if I'm at yeah, a fair, yeah, people like,
oh, DeVos playing in 10 minutes,I'm like, OK, if they're near
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the elephant ears, I'll go checkit out.
OK. And then the next day, so
Bieber, like you mentioned strokes, you mentioned Givion
guessing DJ OK, Addison Ray pop labyrinth don't know somber all
caps guessing missing missing, by the way, missing a vowel.
It's so annoying. The most overplayed out it.
Really is like what are you at awebsite in the early ten 2000.
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Seven. Well, you're trying to make a
license plate out of it, right? David Byrne?
That'd be cool. So David Byrne and Interpol.
OK, I'd see those two. Yeah, and then Alex GI, like
Alex G, OK, Sway Lee, but that that's the top line.
We're not even getting into the 50X below this every day, right.
And then on the final day with Carol G and Young Thug, Cascade
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Big Bang. Is that Korean?
I don't know. I thought some of this has to be
K. Pop There is K pop on this line
on this line. Lofi, Major Lazer, Iggy Pop
still live. Yes, still shirtless.
FKA twigs, wet legs. I know there's a lot of hype on
wet legs. People really like wet.
Legs. Well, clips.
I think I put some respect on clips.
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I know that's pretty far down the lineup.
After like 3 spots after Major Lazer.
They should be above Young Thug even.
They should be the number 2, especially given this most
recent album. And then you're into the lower.
Yeah, suicidal tendencies, I cansee.
I mean that might be fun. Sure, right.
But I mean there is very. Black Flag, which is Greg Ginn
and those kids, it's a bunch of teenagers.
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So weird. It's just I'm not.
Yeah, whatever. I mean, I know it's, it's the
most Speaking of things that areplayed out like, oh, I'm ripping
on the Cold Shell lineup. But it's just, you know, we
talked about this the other day,and it led to a larger
discussion of if the reason these things are maybe doomed is
that younger people who they're trying to cater to view music as
more disposable and ethereal, ephemeral.
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Ephemeral. And they're just like, yeah,
whatever, I'm not going to stream it.
I'm not going to go. I mean, that you really have to
put a ton of energy and effort into getting them to go out and
see it. Yeah.
And even then, they might not want to.
Yeah, and it's got to be about the experience.
Are there cool other things to do right is?
That just the music. Yes, absolutely.
Because more and more you're seeing that kids are about the
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kids are about playlists and vibes, right?
And they're like, it's the Spotify model of naming a
playlist like 3:00 AM study party when your boyfriend isn't
around, but you really want to get drunk.
Like that's the name of the whole playlist.
You don't really care who was onthe playlist.
It's just background vibes. I would be fascinated if there
was a festival that only could admit people under 30.
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What would they have to do to sell it out?
I think a lot of these things sell out on the strength of
people like us. It's slightly younger than us
because we have money, for one thing.
Yeah, and it's expensive. Right, but they're like strokes
is not. Younger people?
No, definitely not. You know, I think I don't know,
I I just, yeah, maybe, you know,if anyone's watching this and
you're under 30, probably not. Or maybe like you, I don't know,
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you hacked into your dad's playlist.
But I mean, maybe we're wrong, but I just feel like the we
talked, you know, briefly about how stadium acts are they're
all, if not nostalgia acts olderfor sure.
And with, you know, exception ofTaylor Swift, who I don't know
as the years go on. She's no spring chicken either,
in terms of newness of the ACT. Right.
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I mean, she's what, 15 years into a career?
People are and and that there's a bunch of.
She has eras. She doesn't have eras.
People are already starting to talk about like, like eventually
their people are not going to want to see someone her age,
which is gross. Like weird and gross.
I know there's some sexism theretoo, obviously being being
female, but yeah, you're that's true.
That's true. Who is going to sell out?
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Maybe it just becomes a thing ofthe past and it's only pop
country artist that can sell outstadiums and arenas.
Speaking of this fucking is it Zach Bryan?
Man. At at Michigan Stadium there.
But there's a whole lot of ingredients of things I don't
like. Sure, in one place.
Sure is. Yeah, We reviewed the last Zach
Bryan album. I liked it a little better than
Tank did, but boy he just seems like an absolute Dick head.
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Like just over and over. All his collaborators are like,
I don't like working with this guy.
He's an asshole. Yeah, yeah.
Boy, that is a concert I do not need to see.
No, but they're going to talk about record for.
I don't know what the record is.It's 112,000.
OK. I mean, that's not nothing.
It's not nothing, but there's been much bigger concerts.
Oh, yeah, yeah. Because of the.
Airfields and shit, yeah. Exactly.
Let's let's not leave out Metallica 91.
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There you go. One and a half million people in
Moscow. Metallica single handedly ended
communism. Oh wow.
Impressive. Yeah.
People, most people don't know that wow, anywho, in the.
Same way that Ebony and Ivory, as we talked about last time,
ended ended racism. Fact.
It's amazing. That's fast.
So, I mean, whatever that that'sour two cents I coach on Yeah.
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And it, you know, leave. Leave your comments on it.
Are we out of touch? Probably.
Whatever. Yeah, fine.
Yeah. If you had the money, would you
go Like if it's is it a money issue?
Is it an the ACT issue? It would you use it for music
discovery? Are you even gonna watch it for
free? Right.
If we gave you alcohol and snacks, would you even sit on
your couch and watch it? The time is weird, too.
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We are in, you know, the Detroitarea in Michigan, and this is in
California. So when they stream it, it's at
night. Yeah, the headliners are like 2
in the morning. So I'm not staying up two in the
morning to watch Sabrina Carpenter.
I am not. So anyway, so.
So that's that, yeah. That's that on that.
That's that on that shout out toDrake's dad.
That's right now the album that we are going to discuss and we
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don't really review. No, we don't.
We we talk about it, we listen to it and we don't give it a
score because that's kind of passe and kind of pointless.
But we do try to curate for you a little bit and say as a as a
great who should listen to this.And it's either everyone, fans
of the genre, fans of just the artist, or no one.
And this time around we listen to a Crate album.
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We have classics Crate and current, correct?
Lots of consonants there. And this is a Crate album.
It's from 2016 and it's by AI. Don't want to say indie rapper I
think. That's a good way to put it,
yeah. Aesop Rock and the album is
called The Impossible Kid. And if you if you watched us
recently, the inspiration I think for this was was 100% his
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latest single, which is called Road Work Rapid.
If you have not listened to thatsong or watched that episode,
that's the Earl Sweatshirt episode.
Yes. OK.
I'll link to that in the show notes.
Construction vehicles move that dirt around.
Yeah, so it is. That's a song for children, yes,
which I didn't know when I stumbled up and again, watched
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the episode, but I think that would inspired us to dig into.
Like this song is fucking awesome and it's not even for
us. We got to figure out and we've
heard this name for years, yearsand years and years.
We got to figure out what he's all about.
So that it was a pretty short path because it was that to I
wanted to buy the album. So I went to download his latest
album, which is from 2025 but does not have road work wrapping
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on it, No. So that was really just a one
off thing. But I bought the newest album
and sure enough, it's fantastic.I highly recommend Snail 0 as
the one song off that if you want to check something out.
It's a great story about Terrarium.
But you know, like, you know what?
We're going to do a crate album and he has quite a history.
So, you know, did a little bit of light research on what do
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people consider his best. And the consensus seems to be
that it's this album named The Impossible Kid.
So, you know, my first impression of it going through
it is so Rings was, I think maybe the biggest.
Again, when you're not, when youdon't have singles per SE, yeah,
it's hard to say what the hit is, sure.
But Rings, put it this way, Rings I remember hearing when I
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would listen to Run the Jewels or LP or something if it was in
a Spotify or Pandora type. I.
Remember seeing rings coming up?No.
Name Nuisance. Who's in a bedroom?
Who's in a brand new Cunia form,barely commune with the horde,
get a whole grayscale uncooling his world might zone amp to the
gap of the magpie unseen hand dragging his graphite cross
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contour. A little bit of backlight black
ink after a Bristol of baptized.You can imagine a brush to ensue
when you get 3 dimensions stuffed in a two.
Then it's off to a school where it's all you get to being
trained and observed by a capable few.
Back in New York by peeps and a dog in a 2 bedroom doing menial
jobs plus rhyming. A steal and a bee in a club.
Distractions. Freedom.
A rod. Surprised it wasn't a hit OK or
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that I just hadn't heard more ofit because it it checks all the
boxes of what would be mainstream playable.
Yes, except is it too sincere and too, you know what I mean?
Like that's that's one of the things we'll we'll dig into it a
lot, right. But like over and over, like
it's so there's this album is very confessional.
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He is not afraid to show his warts and be like, I'm
struggling with mental health and stuff.
In fact, there was a four part video explanation series that
came out before that. I don't get.
Did you get a chance to see that?
And he, so essentially what happens is he moves from, he
lived in only major cities, I think like San Francisco and New
York City essentially. And he's like, I'm overwhelmed
with all of this. The whole scene, this life I've
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been living, I'm going to my friend owns a cabin.
I'm going to go or a brother or whatever brother go live in a
cabin somewhere and I'm going torecord an album there.
The video is him. He wakes up in the cabin, walks
through the woods, goes and laysdown on a couch in the middle of
the woods and a cartoon bear plays therapist and he just
talks about how he's feeling. And it's very much all this sort
of stuff, like, I need to make achange.
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He talks about, like in rings that he's a failed visual
artist. Like, he went to school to do,
like, comic art, essentially andgraphic design.
And he now he feels like insecure about how he maybe he
should have pursued that. Like, this is not the kind of
shit. Yeah, that's.
True, because people don't want to have to think of it.
They want they want escapism. They do.
They do. They don't.
Want to think about their own problems?
But that's exactly what I found so moving, and So what drew me
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into so many of these songs. It's like, I get it, man.
Like we're all imperfect. Yeah.
With that voice too, how could he not have considered?
I know you know what I mean? I know it's his voice alone.
It's this like battery, smooth, deep yes, and it's like just I
mean I'm I'm two albums in, though, because I bought this
one. I'm probably going to get them
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all, but like just voice alone. It's fun to listen to.
It is he's sort of clear enunciation like over
exaggerated enunciation where he's hitting the last consonant
on on where it's like really hard.
Yeah. He's playful with language.
That's the other thing I want tomention.
So what my only experience with him ahead of time was seeing
this thing and I'll and I'll puta link to it down here.
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I don't know if I think I've shared with this this with you
in the past. The largest vocabulary in hip
hop that's. Right.
I remember that, yeah. And it's this, it's a really
cool graphic 'cause it's got like little circle images and
it's, and it's on a graph of everybody who's got and it's
from how many? So that the the chart is the
number of unique words used within an artist's first 35,000
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lyrics. OK, Aesop Rock is at the
absolute top and it's not even close.
Right below that you get a bunchof people you haven't heard of
mostly but but forever. Whatever reason I'd already
heard, I would always heard of Aesop Rock.
But then Wu Tang is not that farbehind.
Jizz is pretty high up there. And then you get like Jedi mind
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tricks, cannabis and then Doom, who's not that far behind,
right? And Earl Sweatshirt doesn't come
that far behind. At the very tail end of it.
You've got little baby DMXI think is the lowest.
But that's what I always figured, like if if there's
someone who is that that talented just at the wordsmith
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side of it, it's got to be worthlooking into just with unique
words. With the.
But the awesome thing is, it doesn't feel like it.
Like it's, it's not like. It's not homework.
It's not. AI feel like a lot of yeah,
there are hip hop artists that like look how wordy I am and it
and it it it takes you out of the flow of the song yes so the
the one passage that I noted that I wanted to talk I saw on
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the song blood sandwich OK, which is about his which is a
clever name he's talking about his brothers yes.
Oh yeah, that's I think. He's the middle of the three.
Yes, yes he is. And one of part of it is this
little anecdote about his littlebrother at a baseball game.
That's crazy, right? Yeah, but basically little
brother is not really into Little League, but he's playing
baseball anyway. There's a a Gopher something out
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the outfield. He completely ignores the game
to look at that. The other players come over and
look at it. The coach gets pissed off.
So, I mean, this is the lyrics to that little section.
Parents thought it adorable. The players followed suit and in
crawling to a close, head coach not amused.
Coach seeing red coach on the diamond, dragging 27 inches of
aluminum behind him. Just chef's kiss, right?
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Amazing. Just the detail of the length of
the bat, right? When he transverse third, the
families turns. The families turn nervous.
The following is a transcript ofman versus vermin.
Here we go. Man stands up by a hole.
Pest pops up to patrol. Man plays live.
Whack a mole in a scene that would try every child as adults
because, you know, traumatizes. Absolutely.
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It's just like. Yeah, who's telling stories like
that, right? It's so unique, the the word
play, the internal rhyme, all that's of the choice of
traverses, right instead of walks or runs right.
Just so thoughtful. Everything is considered.
Every single word is considered.All things considered, as clips
would say all. Things.
Considered. So obviously I'm giving this an
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everyone rating. Yeah.
And the reason? Well, what's your rating, by the
way? I didn't actually write it down
so everyone fans of the genre. Fans of the artist or no one.
I would say does when I think ofeveryone like I think, does my
wife, should my wife listen to this?
OK, I don't think so. OK, so I'm going to say fans of
the genre. Right.
So that's where I will disagree.OK, respectfully.
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Yeah, absolutely. That's what we're going to do.
So fans of the genre, yes, all hip hop fans should listen to
it. I would go a step farther and
say because of his interesting his clear Annunciation.
Yes, the biggest problem I thinkthat most non hip especially
today. People our age, yes, yes, that's
true. But.
If there's if you could, if you had a list of why do I not
listen to hip hop? I guarantee the number one
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answer is I don't know what the fuck they're saying.
Right right. Which with current stuff is
pretty valid. Yeah, just because of delivery
and then auto tune and all that stuff.
How low their vocals are in the mix, all that kind.
Of so I think ASAP now that I'vecould be a tremendous entry
point to hip hop. Interesting.
OK, because you could start hereand you know, I like it 'cause I
understand what he's saying sure.
And you know, he seems he's got a good flow, blah, blah, blah.
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And I could see this leading to Run the Jewels.
Absolutely. And working their way down and
yeah, they'll never like, you know, some of the crap that
right. But I do think it could maybe
get non hip hop fans to tolerateand check out hip hop.
I like it. So that's why I say everyone OK,
I mean by that. This leads me though, to a
question I needed to ask myself.OK, after getting all excited
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about it. OK.
Let me ask you this. This it is forcing me to
consider my own bias when determining who I think the best
MCS are. OK, because I, you know, I'm
kind of blown away. OK, again, I, I didn't discover
it. He's been out 10 years.
I get it. OK, Right.
I've been busy, right. But I'm like, OK, so add him to
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the top of the list. I'm on the record as having
Eminem at number one. Yeah.
Why do I like white dudes? I thought the same thing.
OK, so I need to, I ask myself, is this because I'm just more
comfortable with them maybe or more familiar with their subject
matter being suburban white guy maybe?
Or, and this is my pet theory, OK, that there's the reverse
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racism thing going on and to oh,you're right.
To raise to a place of prominence in the rap game, if
you're white, you have to be good.
So the only white rappers we really ever hear are
exceptional. They've been filtered out.
We don't know any middling besides like fucking MGK or
whatever, right? But that that it's like you're
the genre's predisposed to not let you win.
(25:25):
Yeah, sure. So if you're going to get in
right, you got to be really good.
And unique, yes. And incredibly unique.
I mean, Eminem is in a group of one, right?
And I would say ESOP Rock's probably in a group, maybe two
or three. But yeah, no, that's an
interesting point. I I felt the same thing.
I felt a little skeevy after going I'm going, God, why do I
like this so much? It can't be.
I hope that's not it. I'm sure it's part of it, yeah,
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it's got to be at least part of it.
But I, I do think there's a, a matter of, you know, again, to
be noticed, to be taken seriously, you know, you have to
come with an, a game. And I think it it, I don't think
that's a big part of it. And I think we've talked about
this in the past, the whole notion of vibes.
We're less about vibes and more about, I mean, we are very much
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old school, pay attention to every single lyric in hip hop
anyway, for sure. And this is this is music that
this is hip hop that rewards a deep listen, multiple listen.
That's true. Going through genius trying to
figure out what the hell is going on sometimes, but it's but
I always found that fun. I I spent a ton of time in
genius on it with this album, but it was fun.
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Yeah, yeah, it wasn't it wasn't like, oh God, what is he even
saying? I really enjoyed it.
Story raps. I think that's a call back like
the song, like blood sandwich that you mentioned.
That is a very old school thing to do.
We love old school hip hop. That's true.
You were huge on children's story.
Yeah. Yeah.
Slick Rick. Yeah, I thought of that during
during a couple of these. Like they people don't make.
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And I guess that's the other factor that I didn't include is
it is old school and we like oldschool.
So that's the other reason. And Eminem is also, I mean, he's
definitely pays. I mean, he does new stuff, but
he definitely comes from a placeof wanting to honor that.
Heritage. Yeah, it's that boom.
Bap, It's less. Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah, I know. What do you think I mean?
(27:12):
I mean, check it out. Yeah.
I strongly recommend checking itout.
Yeah. If you are someone, I think
that's exactly right. If you are someone who's not
that into hip hop and you're around our age, Yep, give it a
shot, Yeah. And and in the in the extended
playlist we will tell you which ones we think you should.
Start with yes, now it's time for the EP 10 where we make a
list of 10 music related things,right.
(27:32):
And this time we're going to do it a little bit different.
Normally we get together ahead of time when we communicate, you
know, in that sort of pre show work.
Yeah, about what the topic is going to be.
And then we come up with the 10 items, whether that's an artist,
a genre, a album or something like that, and then we rank them
together. We're not going to do that this
episode because it's not applicable once you hear what
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the topic is. Yeah.
So this time we're going to I, Ibrought 5 things to the list,
Tank brought 5 things to the list, and we're going to go back
and forth and tell you a free ball.
Yeah, absolutely. The list today is 80s nostalgia
X yes, and that's the kind of thing that needs to be defined
because what does that mean right, right.
So I the only real qualifications with that we're
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kind of going to work with here is that they weren't really very
popular before or after the 80s yes.
So they, you know, they might have still carried on, but it
but no one's really paying attention anymore.
And that their music immediatelybrings you back to the 80s
because there are some bands that put up stuff for the 80s.
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It's like, OK, I might like it or not like it, but it doesn't
pull me back to that place. Right.
So these are artists that it's like, oh, wow, the second you
hear it, you are in your your basement, your backyard, your
classroom, whatever. Assuming you were kids then
assuming you were alive then. And if you're watching their.
Show you probably were. Probably were.
Yep. Alright, so go ahead and hit us
with the first of your 5. Sure.
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The first one I thought right away because I I don't listen to
a lot of 80s stuff anymore, but I did about a month ago start
making an 80s playlist. And the first song I put on it
was In a Big Country by Big Country, which I think is just
such a that song, again, I'm immediately in the 80s watching
MTV. It's the, I can picture the
video that's with a lot of these.
I could picture the music video like in the Scottish hills, that
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guitar lick that sounds like bagpipes, but it's not bagpipes.
Just a great song and a very unique in a song that could only
be a hit in the 80s, I feel like.
Right. Like that was a time where
anything went. You could have, you know, pop
next to R&B next to yeah. Yeah, Todd and the Shadows did
an episode. I watched that actually.
Very sad story how that ended up, yeah, but kind of a bummer.
(29:42):
Great song nonetheless. My my first of the five is the
Pet Shop Boys. OK, very much an 80s thing.
Absolutely. And two or three big hits, yes,
I think West End girls, probablythe boom, boom, boom.
That is a great beat. That's got to have been a hip
hop beat someone has. To if not, if you know what, I'm
going to do some research. If it hasn't, I'm making a hip.
(30:04):
Hop song based on that? Absolutely.
To join our catalog of original music.
Yeah. So Pet Shop Boys, I mean,
there's not much to say. Fun music, good music, but a
very much a short period of time, yes.
For sure. Likewise with Psychedelic Furs
and my next one on the list, many people immediately go to
soundtracks and think Pretty in Pink and Ghost in You.
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Such a unique voice. I think his name is Richard
Butler. Such a incredibly unique,
distinct voice. As soon as he starts singing,
you know who it is. And yeah, again, I picture John
Hughes movies and that there's nothing more 80s than John
Hughes movies to me. So handful of songs.
They're still touring right now.I feel like they're touring with
somebody else that's kind of bigfrom the 80s.
But anyway. Yeah, probably get some package
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deal usually, Yeah, summer Amphitheatre type thing along
those lines. I had probably the well, the the
second most successful. Jesus, easy for you to say mini
stroke there. Second most successful of the
the band's Culture Club. OK, you are a big Culture Club
fan. Yeah, I mean, I don't know how
you camp. I don't know.
(31:07):
Really just one album, kind of two, OK, you know, but probably
four or five, six big hits. Yeah.
But it's, they are definitely. Oh yeah.
You know, I, I mean that's like 8485 maybe.
Yeah, it's yeah, early. Yeah, I definitely have that
whole Tigers winning the World Series.
You know that part of my childhood that it holds me back
to? Sure, sure.
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But yeah, they were huge for about two or three years there.
Yeah, I mean, everything from like, they were a cultural
phenomenon because of Boy George's, Boy George's look and
all that kind of stuff. And that could have that could
have only happened in the 80s because that's where we were as
a culture. And it was pre hair metal.
True. So like, yeah, it would only be
two or three years later where it was normalized.
It's like, that's true. Of course Nikki Sixx is wearing
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lipstick. Why wouldn't he?
Right, Right. Arguably, maybe the first one.
No 'cause you had David Bowie and stuff, but.
Yeah, and like New York Dolls and stuff like that, but.
But in a poppy, mainstream sense, you really didn't see it
much. No, you didn't.
That's true. Yeah.
My next one is very obscure, andit's literally only one song.
It's Dan Hartman. No, not that one.
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The song I can dream about you. Yeah, I could dream about you.
No, I can dream about you. I think how much I love this
song. Yeah.
I mean. Who cares?
It is. I think it's I can OK.
Again, this is a movie soundtrack thing.
I found this song so yes, it wasso.
We confirmed it is. I can dream.
About you. OK, what about the movie?
Can we confirm that it was in a movie?
(32:30):
Look. At the the thumbnail of the the
videos movie Streets of Fire. Really.
That's what I'm saying. I don't think it debuted in the
film Streets of Fire, performed by the fictional band The
Sorelles I. Have no recollection of any.
I have no recollection of it being movie related.
And I do like distinctly. I might be confusing it with
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like Holiday Rd. by Lindsey Buckingham I think I always
thought. That's yeah, that the.
National Lampoon. Yeah.
Just a great song. It's got that because it was
like old school. It was sort of like like a blue
eyed soul. Kind of thing a little bit.
Yes, but also based in like 50s and 60's pop a little bit like
there's like a little Doo wop inthe background.
It just if you haven't heard that.
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Song. I mean, if you haven't listened
that song in a while, put it on.It's great.
Dan Hartman I can dream about. You we can definitively say that
same in the song at #3. Not that I've ranked them, but
third on my list is the Eurythmics.
Okay again, very much of A time Annie Lennox, her career in
popularity, you could argue it went up in the 90s when she went
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some solo stuff, that's true. But Eurythmics as a place in
time against super popular some classic songs like you know,
songs that everyone like, Sweet Dreams that you know, culturally
significant songs even. Absolutely, yeah, definitely in
the heart of the MTV. Yes, generation and again, the
androgynous look going the otherway.
(33:56):
Yes, right, which maybe I had a thing for androgyny in the 80s.
Maybe I'm learning a lot about myself through this list.
But no, I you know, if they had a few of them run probably 5-6
big hits and but there's you think, you hear that, you think
80s immediately. I agree.
The next one, I mean, this is so80s to me.
It's the second tape I ever bought.
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For long time listeners, viewersof extended play was the Miami
Vice soundtrack. And Yon Hammer's Miami Vice
theme is so incredibly 80s. I mean, Miami Vice, just that
whole thing. Yes, the whole vibe, it's peak
80s it's. Peak 80s, right?
It's the neon suits. It's just Don Johnson, and he's
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got three names. Philip Michael.
Philip Michael Thomas. Yeah, that's.
What I thought. Like, like them driving to in
the air tonight, even with the that was the did you know that
was the opening scene to Miami Vice?
That was the very first scene ofthe very first episode.
There's a super cut out there onYouTube of all like cameos.
Yeah, it is mind blowing. It's it's from like musicians to
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like a list actors. Absolutely.
Yeah. But that song the the Miami Vice
theme is so 80s again, that could not be a hit today.
No, I mean. No one would play that song, No,
but it's still awesome. No, listen to that.
Actually for my second to last one, I have Journey, OK?
No need to talk about. I mean, everyone knows Journey,
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but really man, they really kindof came in early in the 80s and
went away mid 80s and that was it.
Yeah. But starting in the 70s I think
but. Yeah, I looked like two or three
albums, but none of which had any recognizables.
Got it. OK.
Yeah, they definitely. But I mean, early 80s, they were
arguably the most popular band in the world for a while there.
I mean, that's true. It was.
It was everywhere. Yeah, got a little bit of
(35:42):
renewed, like when Glee came outand they did that.
Don't stop believing there was renewed interest.
And The Sopranos. Sopranos.
Yeah. And we grew up in the Detroit
area and the fact that the whole.
Born and raised in South Detroit.
Yeah. For whatever reason, that's a
bar song here. Yeah.
It's really a bar song everywhere.
I think it is. Yeah.
OK, Yeah, We just. Sing the South Detroit.
Park, which is weird again, if you're not from Detroit, there's
no S Detroit. S Detroit is Windsor, yes.
(36:04):
Just bizarre. But anyway, I agree.
Journey, yeah. I mean, yeah, huge.
Yeah, my final one is the first hip hop album I ever bought,
which was Houdini. The freaks come out at night.
They do the polka dots. I don't know if they did, the
one dude had the big. The thing the.
Hat Kwame with the polka dots. Yeah.
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Freaks come out at night, friends.
How many of us have them? I don't know what drew me to
that, but that was my first experience with hip hop and I
could not listen to that tape enough.
Again, that is not what hip hop sounds like anymore.
It really almost didn't then it was like a year or two.
There's a year or two. Yeah.
I think Fat Boys was my next tape after that.
So that's that's the world we'retalking about.
(36:50):
It's just so. 80s And Speaking of so 80s, yeah, Huey Lewis in
the news. Absolutely.
I mean, kings of that era. Oh yeah, Two massive albums,
yes. And then not a whole lot.
Yeah, and a soundtrack hit. Right, yes, right.
You know, I mean, that's again, you hear you're Hugh Lewis's
voice and you are instantly transported back to like 1986.
(37:11):
Yeah. Again, a time when a like bar
band, you know, R&B based band can make it and and write these
incredible hits that are played every.
Yeah, it's just a different world though.
Amen to that, brother. Yep.
So those are our 80s nostalgia acts.
What artists album songs do you hear?
And immediately you're right back in the 80s.
(37:34):
Let us know in the comments. And now it's time for the
extended playlist, where we graciously give you 5 songs to
renew your passion for life, formusic, and for us.
For us, Really. Yeah.
So yeah, we pull a little bit from the album.
We talked about the list we do. And then a couple wildcards
because we're wild, crazy guys. And if you take nothing away
(37:54):
from this episode, we'll link toit down here both on Spotify and
YouTube. And if you are a member of our
Patreon, you get an overextendedplaylist of 10 songs.
That's double. That's double.
All right. Yes, check out these five songs.
Yes, nothing. If you take nothing else from us
today. Yes, listen to these 5.
And very first song from the aforementioned ASOP rock
(38:16):
Impossible Kid is Blood Sandwich.
Yup, steps up to the plate little brother Little League 87
he was 8 rookie season for the skinny slugger Nulietta T-ball
pit against a pitcher with a Ripper you can eat off church
dinner gripper loans run a thirdfirst granny yelling gold Cubs
nose in her words, Sir see milfslike apes on a monolithic
Bleacher in and advocating more in peace and little sport and
(38:37):
leisure. Hi Peggy I was 10.
She went on a sweet tart little brother left field Queens guard
mean our knees been two out two warm bags when I caught him
staring down at something movingthrough the grass.
Hold up, tag runner and our whole cast rope safe.
Not before we could identify theculprit.
Granny yelling go Cubs. Graham yelling Gopher.
New left fielder give a fuck about a Homer.
Got a homie. Little rodent head and shoulders
(38:59):
out of subtle. No baseball in the bubble rope.
Rope parents started adorable. The players followed suit and
crawling to a close. Head coach not amused.
Again, if you're just tuning in,if you skipped ahead to get to
the playlist, welcome. Hi, I'm glad you're here.
We reviewed the ASAP Rock album earlier. 9 year old album Blood
Sandwich. You want to get into it a little
bit. Yeah, just we, you know, it's
(39:20):
kind of a a series of kind of short stories and super
interesting word play and the lyrics are great, you know, good
beat. I mean, yeah, pretty much all
his beats are they're good. They're solid off the shelf.
Yeah, they did remind me a lot of RTJ beats.
There's a lot of sort of like retro video game stuff going on.
A lot of dark and menacing shit though.
Also, yeah, that's true, which Iliked.
But no, just it's, if nothing else, just for the the density
(39:43):
of the words and how interestingit is.
It's worth checking out, Yeah. Speaking of density of words and
darkness, as far as content goes, my pick was Suicidal
Thoughts by Notorious BIG. When I die, fuck it, I want to
go to hell 'cause I'm a piece ofshit.
It ain't hard to fucking tell. It don't make sense.
Go into heaven with the goody goodies dressed in white.
(40:03):
I like black Thames and black hoodies.
I'll probably have me on some real strict shit.
No sleeping all day, no giving my lick.
Hanging with the goody goodies, lounging in paradise.
Fuck that shit. I want to talk guns and shoot
nice. All my life I've been considered
as the worst lying to my mother.He was stealing out of purse.
Which is the last song on Ready to Die and it I remember hearing
(40:27):
it and this comes on the back ofof Tupac coming out I think with
not all eyes on me. Maybe it was all eyes on me
anyway, this new sort of confessional, like I'm not crazy
about myself all the time. I have mental health struggles
and I'm willing to talk about it.
Something that is downplayed with Biggie's stuff because it's
so much the big Papa, right? The juicy, that kind of stuff.
(40:48):
But he had this in him, this darkness in him over and over
again. He's talking about like it's not
worth living. I remember that finding that
very brave at the time. Especially at the time.
Especially at the time. And there are moments in ASAP
Rock's album where he talks about similar things about,
like, he's not sure he belongs with the group.
Yeah, Like in Dorks. Yeah.
(41:09):
Where the chorus is something like I'm gonna find it.
Wait, Which is our? 3rd song on the playlist.
It's our third song on the playlist where he has a play on
I'll be over there. So he what he says is.
Oh yeah, party over here. I'll be over there.
Right. Just sort of acknowledging that
like, I know this is where stuffis going on.
Yep. I'm not part of that.
And, and, and I sometimes I wishI was.
(41:32):
Yeah. Sometimes I feel like I am, but
mostly I feel like I don't belong.
Yeah. And that that resonates with me.
Absolutely, I think. I think it resonates with a.
Lot of people, yeah. Right.
And to your point about like this being a good entry into hip
hop, if you're not into the sortof braggadocious, I'm better
than everyone, right? That's not this, right?
If you're like, I'd rather go home and play video games,
right? Check it.
Out That's right. So that's our third, fourth song
(41:54):
from the playlist. 3rd That's our third song with playlist.
4th song is from our list of nostalgia acts. 8 from the 80s
Tank's favorite Culture Club. Yes, miss me blind.
Bitch, you've got a good gun. Bet you will have to have some
fun in there. You turn it around on me because
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I'm better than the rest of the men.
I say you miss me and you alwaysdo.
I say you miss me now. Would I lie to you now?
There's no need to be there. Wrap my golden head.
(42:38):
I'll teach you and you'll never be short on.
It's The way that you meet is much like greed.
Beside if you are rich or you'reborn.
I know you miss me. I know you miss me.
I know you miss me belong. I know you miss me.
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I know you miss me. I know you miss me.
Belong. Just because it's like one step
below the huge hits, right? And maybe you have listened to
it in a while. Yeah, I'm sure if you're
watching this, you've listened to it, you've heard it, but you
probably listened to it in like 10 or 15 years for sure.
So I'm saying, you know what, it's time, Okay, it's time to go
(43:21):
back and tune into Boy George and the boys and I assume no
girls in that band. But no, check out mystery blind.
It's a great oldie that which fucked up that it's old now, but
it. Is, I know 40?
Yeah. Yeah, Jesus.
Yeah, go check it out. Nice.
And our fifth and final song on the extended playlist this time
around is Life in a Northern Town by the Dream Academy.
(43:42):
Dream Academy, Yeah. Everyone else came down to
listen, he said, and went to 1963.
(44:03):
It felt like the world would freeze with John F Kennedy.
I'm a Beatle. Classic one hit wonder, yes.
(44:32):
Classic 80s. Very, very much like the Big
Country song, Yes, very, very much like the big Country song,
yes. I mean, it's very much in the
same thing. Yes, in that it's completely of
its own thing. No other songs like it, really.
Yeah. They came, they went, and they
left that indelible mark on thatpoint in time.
That was it. But great, I still listen to it.
Maybe monthly. OK, really.
(44:53):
A couple playlists. Yeah, yeah.
All right, good times. So that's our extended playlist
again. Remember, we will link to the
Spotify playlist and the YouTubeplaylist down below.
We do this every time around. Again, if there's nothing else
you take from this episode, these are 5 great songs.
It's a great playlist. It'll make you remember why you
love music so much. Amen.
Join us next time where we will review an album.
(45:14):
We will count down a top ten. Believe it, we will give you an
extended playlist. Yep, that's what we do.
Extended play. You're the extended family.
We'll see you next time. Bye bye.
We're going to talk about The Impossible Kid by Aesop Rock,
80s nostalgia acts, and as always, your extended playlist
from us to you because we love you right now.
An extended play. Welcome to extended play
(00:21):
renewing your passion 5 songs ata time me.
Tank. Yeah, and today we're going to
get into an album review in a little bit of the ASAC Rock
album, Something from the Crate,Crate.
Something from the crate, yeah. Something from a few years back,
but not quite a classic. We'll give you a 5 songs, renew
your passion for music at the end and our extended playlist.
Yes. And also, we're going to
countdown to top ten, yeah. Of 80s nostalgia acts, which we
(00:44):
will define better when the timecomes.
That's right, Not right now. Yeah.
But right now we want to be kindof timely and talk about the the
Coachella lineup just got announced for 2026.
Earliest time, earliest they've ever announced this.
The lineup. Yeah, it's like practically a
year away. So I, I saw a note on, I'm going
to assume Reddit about how people are noticed.
So it doesn't, it hasn't sold out the last two or three years
(01:05):
or something like that. And that every year they keep
moving it up ostensibly because they think, well, if we just
give people more time, it'll sell out, right?
But I would I would propose thattime isn't the issue it.
Doesn't seem like it when you'relooking at the line up and we
have the line up right here and you know, you can read 1000
think pieces on this already, right?
And every year there's somethinglike that.
But I think the biggest news arethe headliners, which is just
(01:27):
they just fully leaned into fullpop with Sabrina Carpenter,
Justin Bieber and Carol G as their three headlining artists,
which there's there's a whole lot we could dig into there.
I mean, I think the first, one of the first things to talk
about is like what I realized isthat this, this show is clearly
not for us. But who is it for?
(01:48):
That's then that's a bigger question.
We're old yes, we're old yeah. Festivals in general like 3 day
long there's. Not AVIP tent with a seat and
air conditioning. I'm not going.
Right. But Even so, us being so into
music, the chance to see so manyacts, you would think there'd be
something for us here. But I feel like, OK, I feel like
festivals come in two flavours. And some are like, like, I want
(02:12):
to say celebrations or whatever,you know, traditions, yeah, like
rock and ring in Germany. Like, OK, there's some things
that like where the festival hasa history to where it's like
artists kind of want to play there.
It's fun. And the other type are festivals
of acts no one would pay full price to see on their.
Own. Sure, sure.
It happens, right? It's like it's OK, you know,
here's a bunch of things, like they're all like, you would
(02:34):
maybe see them, right? But probably not.
But if you put 50 in the same place, like, yeah, I'll go
right, right. Coachella, you would think,
would be the former. Yes.
But I don't think it is. I think Coachella thinks they're
the former. Yes.
But all the artists that say no thanks, which like, you know,
they said Kendrick Lamar said no.
A whole lot of people said no. It's like, I think it's starting
(02:54):
to turn into the ladder of like,can we put enough to make you
buy a ticket? And I don't know that they have.
Yeah, the, the, the line up is so strange.
I mean, so we've done and I'll link to it in the show notes or
maybe up here over there. Actually, we've broken down,
we've gone through and quizzed ourself on how many of the the
(03:14):
artists we knew, which it's not a lot even though we listen, you
know, obviously we have our own music podcast.
We're talking about music all the time.
And there's still, I mean, it only takes you to get down to
the second or third line in thisposter before you're like, I
don't know who. Sometimes the first.
Before you don't know who any ofthese people are.
But even even when you do know who they are, the, the, the
blend is so strange like becauseconceivably the the the you
(03:40):
know, it goes in like declining popularity right as you go down
larger. To smaller font.
Yeah, so, so you start off with Sabrina Carpenter.
OK, So again, headliners are allpop, but then immediately your
second Bills, right On all threedays.
Sabrina Carpenter, it's The xx, right?
They haven't played together in 10 years or something like that.
I'm sorry. That's very weak for a #2 slot.
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It's weird. It's weird.
It's weak. Yeah.
The Strokes under Justin Bieber.That's strange too.
That whatever. Again, we're talking about kind
of nostalgia, you know, almost anostalgia range.
And then Young Thug after Carol GI.
Don't. Even know who that is and then.
It's hip hop obviously like. Exactly right, but I assumed it
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wasn't. It wasn't classical pianist.
Right, It would that would be awesome.
That would be the so it's just strange that immediately like
you're trying to capture the zeitgeist to kind of with
Sabrina Carpenter and then immediately going to nostalgia
like it's I would. Guess that the cohesion is not a
concern of theirs, right? That it's like, I think my guess
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would be that their marketing approach is the headliners are
completely separate from everything.
OK, OK. And it's like, if you want to
see Sabrina Carpenter bad enough, Yeah.
First of all, if you want to go to Coachella because you're an
influencer or otherwise, sure, sure.
Mentally impaired. You're you're buying a ticket.
So they're done. Then it's the I want to see
Sabrina Carpenter or blah, blah,blah.
Then the next group down is all right, what can we put in this
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Stew to get people to go? It's enough.
I think I'll go. Yeah, sure.
And as I mean, now the interesting things are the two
big theories I heard. Is that OK?
So 9 inch noise. Yeah, I read about that.
It's 9 Inch Nails and some, I don't know, the other artist, I
should have remembered better, but it has an organized noise.
It has noise in the name and they've collaborated before.
So maybe effectively 9 Inch Nails is on the card.
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Potentially, yes. And there is some talk about
this whole Radiohead. Oh yeah, there's something about
kid amnesia, whatever. But like, there's some talk that
Radiohead will be the surprise appearance.
I doubt it. Yeah, I, I.
Doubt it. Radiohead is not the kind of
thing you do as a surprise. If you have them, we advertise
them. And looking at this line up, I
don't know I think. They're going to say pass.
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Right. The, well, the people that would
buy tickets to this wouldn't necessarily want to see
Radiohead, right? You know what I mean?
Right. And I feel like they, I mean, we
could be egg on our faces where they show up totally.
But I feel like they would want to have more control over the
environment. They're not touring much.
And it's like, right, Those are precious dates.
It's like, do you really want towaste on a bunch of kids whacked
out on ecstasy in the desert in California somewhere?
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Yeah. I mean, that sounds like A and
by the way, I think that our oldness is offset by our podcast
Ness. Yeah, I would agree with that.
So it's like we we're old. But I think if you balance that
with the fact that we sort of have to pay attention, yeah, we
it balances out to be a young person, a mainstream young
person who's not on top of music.
Like whether or not we would actually physically go is
actually not important, right, right.
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Like because we will not becausewe will because we would not
right be for all the reasons three days standing the whole
time, right, being uncomfortable.
Yeah. But conceivably would we go to
see these kind of acts? And I think so I would say no,
right. We wouldn't go.
I do have a little caveat in that.
I wonder how how many people do you think go that have a very in
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depth knowledge of most of theseacts?
Very little, very few. Do you think a lot of people are
going there? What do you think the balance is
between people that are going there for the experience, for
the vibes, right for the socialsversus I'm going there to
discover new music? Oh, for that 90 to 1090, see.
And this would be a very like, Icould see myself going to
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something like this for that reason.
Yes. OK, So if I want to be like, I
don't know who any of these people are, I got it.
I want to know. So let me ask you this.
Yes, I think that maybe the the best way to evaluate how good
this is. Let's say that there was a high
def stream. There is.
OK, Yeah. Well OK there you go.
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But let's say OK so you have a high def stream, it's free and
but the catch is you need to either not watch any of it or
commit to watching 5 hours a day5.
Hours a day. Right, which is not even the
full day, right? So if the headliner wraps up at
10 or 11, so basically say look for for two or three days in a
row, will you sit and watch from6 to 11 looking at this?
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No, I'm not exactly no. So it's free yeah, you don't
have to go anywhere and you still don't want to do and
they're going to curate it for you right in the live stream.
You they're not doing all of this right.
They're not doing all the side stages.
They'll they they cherry pick and who knows?
I'm sure there's payola and all sorts of shit that goes into
like what gets broadcast, but sexual favors?
I mean, just for the, you know, if you're listening or watching
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and you haven't looked at it yet.
I mean, so Sabrina Carpenter, the XX9 inch noise just reading
the top level, so turnstiles there.
Which, yeah, which would be great.
Yeah, they've been killing it onthe festival circuit.
So disclosure. DJs.
OK, Ethel Kane. I'm interested in her hunt.
OK, no more. Dijon.
Modern R&B kind of OK. Pass Teddy swims, pass and then
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Cat's. Eye.
I don't know what cat's eye is, but it's all caps which.
Is probably a DJ. Exactly.
And then I mean Devo. Devo and sexy red.
Yeah. Lead up the next and Foster The
People. Which, OK, I'm not.
I don't want to. I don't see Devo.
No, I don't need to see devo. No, I mean it might be like fun.
Yeah, I guess if I'm, if I'm at yeah, a fair, yeah, people like,
oh, DeVos playing in 10 minutes,I'm like, OK, if they're near
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the elephant ears, I'll go checkit out.
OK. And then the next day, so
Bieber, like you mentioned strokes, you mentioned Givion
guessing DJ OK, Addison Ray pop labyrinth don't know somber all
caps guessing missing missing, by the way, missing a vowel.
It's so annoying. The most overplayed out it.
Really is like what are you at awebsite in the early ten 2000.
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Seven. Well, you're trying to make a
license plate out of it, right? David Byrne?
That'd be cool. So David Byrne and Interpol.
OK, I'd see those two. Yeah, and then Alex GI, like
Alex G, OK, Sway Lee, but that that's the top line.
We're not even getting into the 50X below this every day, right.
And then on the final day with Carol G and Young Thug, Cascade
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Big Bang. Is that Korean?
I don't know. I thought some of this has to be
K. Pop There is K pop on this line
on this line. Lofi, Major Lazer, Iggy Pop
still live. Yes, still shirtless.
FKA twigs, wet legs. I know there's a lot of hype on
wet legs. People really like wet.
Legs. Well, clips.
I think I put some respect on clips.
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I know that's pretty far down the lineup.
After like 3 spots after Major Lazer.
They should be above Young Thug even.
They should be the number 2, especially given this most
recent album. And then you're into the lower.
Yeah, suicidal tendencies, I cansee.
I mean that might be fun. Sure, right.
But I mean there is very. Black Flag, which is Greg Ginn
and those kids, it's a bunch of teenagers.
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So weird. It's just I'm not.
Yeah, whatever. I mean, I know it's, it's the
most Speaking of things that areplayed out like, oh, I'm ripping
on the Cold Shell lineup. But it's just, you know, we
talked about this the other day,and it led to a larger
discussion of if the reason these things are maybe doomed is
that younger people who they're trying to cater to view music as
more disposable and ethereal, ephemeral.
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Ephemeral. And they're just like, yeah,
whatever, I'm not going to stream it.
I'm not going to go. I mean, that you really have to
put a ton of energy and effort into getting them to go out and
see it. Yeah.
And even then, they might not want to.
Yeah, and it's got to be about the experience.
Are there cool other things to do right is?
That just the music. Yes, absolutely.
Because more and more you're seeing that kids are about the
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kids are about playlists and vibes, right?
And they're like, it's the Spotify model of naming a
playlist like 3:00 AM study party when your boyfriend isn't
around, but you really want to get drunk.
Like that's the name of the whole playlist.
You don't really care who was onthe playlist.
It's just background vibes. I would be fascinated if there
was a festival that only could admit people under 30.
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What would they have to do to sell it out?
I think a lot of these things sell out on the strength of
people like us. It's slightly younger than us
because we have money, for one thing.
Yeah, and it's expensive. Right, but they're like strokes
is not. Younger people?
No, definitely not. You know, I think I don't know,
I I just, yeah, maybe, you know,if anyone's watching this and
you're under 30, probably not. Or maybe like you, I don't know,
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you hacked into your dad's playlist.
But I mean, maybe we're wrong, but I just feel like the we
talked, you know, briefly about how stadium acts are they're
all, if not nostalgia acts olderfor sure.
And with, you know, exception ofTaylor Swift, who I don't know
as the years go on. She's no spring chicken either,
in terms of newness of the ACT. Right.
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I mean, she's what, 15 years into a career?
People are and and that there's a bunch of.
She has eras. She doesn't have eras.
People are already starting to talk about like, like eventually
their people are not going to want to see someone her age,
which is gross. Like weird and gross.
I know there's some sexism theretoo, obviously being being
female, but yeah, you're that's true.
That's true. Who is going to sell out?
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Maybe it just becomes a thing ofthe past and it's only pop
country artist that can sell outstadiums and arenas.
Speaking of this fucking is it Zach Bryan?
Man. At at Michigan Stadium there.
But there's a whole lot of ingredients of things I don't
like. Sure, in one place.
Sure is. Yeah, We reviewed the last Zach
Bryan album. I liked it a little better than
Tank did, but boy he just seems like an absolute Dick head.
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Like just over and over. All his collaborators are like,
I don't like working with this guy.
He's an asshole. Yeah, yeah.
Boy, that is a concert I do not need to see.
No, but they're going to talk about record for.
I don't know what the record is.It's 112,000.
OK. I mean, that's not nothing.
It's not nothing, but there's been much bigger concerts.
Oh, yeah, yeah. Because of the.
Airfields and shit, yeah. Exactly.
Let's let's not leave out Metallica 91.
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There you go. One and a half million people in
Moscow. Metallica single handedly ended
communism. Oh wow.
Impressive. Yeah.
People, most people don't know that wow, anywho, in the.
Same way that Ebony and Ivory, as we talked about last time,
ended ended racism. Fact.
It's amazing. That's fast.
So, I mean, whatever that that'sour two cents I coach on Yeah.
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And it, you know, leave. Leave your comments on it.
Are we out of touch? Probably.
Whatever. Yeah, fine.
Yeah. If you had the money, would you
go Like if it's is it a money issue?
Is it an the ACT issue? It would you use it for music
discovery? Are you even gonna watch it for
free? Right.
If we gave you alcohol and snacks, would you even sit on
your couch and watch it? The time is weird, too.
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We are in, you know, the Detroitarea in Michigan, and this is in
California. So when they stream it, it's at
night. Yeah, the headliners are like 2
in the morning. So I'm not staying up two in the
morning to watch Sabrina Carpenter.
I am not. So anyway, so.
So that's that, yeah. That's that on that.
That's that on that shout out toDrake's dad.
That's right now the album that we are going to discuss and we
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don't really review. No, we don't.
We we talk about it, we listen to it and we don't give it a
score because that's kind of passe and kind of pointless.
But we do try to curate for you a little bit and say as a as a
great who should listen to this.And it's either everyone, fans
of the genre, fans of just the artist, or no one.
And this time around we listen to a Crate album.
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We have classics Crate and current, correct?
Lots of consonants there. And this is a Crate album.
It's from 2016 and it's by AI. Don't want to say indie rapper I
think. That's a good way to put it,
yeah. Aesop Rock and the album is
called The Impossible Kid. And if you if you watched us
recently, the inspiration I think for this was was 100% his
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latest single, which is called Road Work Rapid.
If you have not listened to thatsong or watched that episode,
that's the Earl Sweatshirt episode.
Yes. OK.
I'll link to that in the show notes.
Construction vehicles move that dirt around.
Yeah, so it is. That's a song for children, yes,
which I didn't know when I stumbled up and again, watched
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the episode, but I think that would inspired us to dig into.
Like this song is fucking awesome and it's not even for
us. We got to figure out and we've
heard this name for years, yearsand years and years.
We got to figure out what he's all about.
So that it was a pretty short path because it was that to I
wanted to buy the album. So I went to download his latest
album, which is from 2025 but does not have road work wrapping
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on it, No. So that was really just a one
off thing. But I bought the newest album
and sure enough, it's fantastic.I highly recommend Snail 0 as
the one song off that if you want to check something out.
It's a great story about Terrarium.
But you know, like, you know what?
We're going to do a crate album and he has quite a history.
So, you know, did a little bit of light research on what do
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people consider his best. And the consensus seems to be
that it's this album named The Impossible Kid.
So, you know, my first impression of it going through
it is so Rings was, I think maybe the biggest.
Again, when you're not, when youdon't have singles per SE, yeah,
it's hard to say what the hit is, sure.
But Rings, put it this way, Rings I remember hearing when I
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would listen to Run the Jewels or LP or something if it was in
a Spotify or Pandora type. I.
Remember seeing rings coming up?No.
Name Nuisance. Who's in a bedroom?
Who's in a brand new Cunia form,barely commune with the horde,
get a whole grayscale uncooling his world might zone amp to the
gap of the magpie unseen hand dragging his graphite cross
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contour. A little bit of backlight black
ink after a Bristol of baptized.You can imagine a brush to ensue
when you get 3 dimensions stuffed in a two.
Then it's off to a school where it's all you get to being
trained and observed by a capable few.
Back in New York by peeps and a dog in a 2 bedroom doing menial
jobs plus rhyming. A steal and a bee in a club.
Distractions. Freedom.
A rod. Surprised it wasn't a hit OK or
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that I just hadn't heard more ofit because it it checks all the
boxes of what would be mainstream playable.
Yes, except is it too sincere and too, you know what I mean?
Like that's that's one of the things we'll we'll dig into it a
lot, right. But like over and over, like
it's so there's this album is very confessional.
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He is not afraid to show his warts and be like, I'm
struggling with mental health and stuff.
In fact, there was a four part video explanation series that
came out before that. I don't get.
Did you get a chance to see that?
And he, so essentially what happens is he moves from, he
lived in only major cities, I think like San Francisco and New
York City essentially. And he's like, I'm overwhelmed
with all of this. The whole scene, this life I've
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been living, I'm going to my friend owns a cabin.
I'm going to go or a brother or whatever brother go live in a
cabin somewhere and I'm going torecord an album there.
The video is him. He wakes up in the cabin, walks
through the woods, goes and laysdown on a couch in the middle of
the woods and a cartoon bear plays therapist and he just
talks about how he's feeling. And it's very much all this sort
of stuff, like, I need to make achange.
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He talks about, like in rings that he's a failed visual
artist. Like, he went to school to do,
like, comic art, essentially andgraphic design.
And he now he feels like insecure about how he maybe he
should have pursued that. Like, this is not the kind of
shit. Yeah, that's.
True, because people don't want to have to think of it.
They want they want escapism. They do.
They do. They don't.
Want to think about their own problems?
But that's exactly what I found so moving, and So what drew me
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into so many of these songs. It's like, I get it, man.
Like we're all imperfect. Yeah.
With that voice too, how could he not have considered?
I know you know what I mean? I know it's his voice alone.
It's this like battery, smooth, deep yes, and it's like just I
mean I'm I'm two albums in, though, because I bought this
one. I'm probably going to get them
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all, but like just voice alone. It's fun to listen to.
It is he's sort of clear enunciation like over
exaggerated enunciation where he's hitting the last consonant
on on where it's like really hard.
Yeah. He's playful with language.
That's the other thing I want tomention.
So what my only experience with him ahead of time was seeing
this thing and I'll and I'll puta link to it down here.
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I don't know if I think I've shared with this this with you
in the past. The largest vocabulary in hip
hop that's. Right.
I remember that, yeah. And it's this, it's a really
cool graphic 'cause it's got like little circle images and
it's, and it's on a graph of everybody who's got and it's
from how many? So that the the chart is the
number of unique words used within an artist's first 35,000
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lyrics. OK, Aesop Rock is at the
absolute top and it's not even close.
Right below that you get a bunchof people you haven't heard of
mostly but but forever. Whatever reason I'd already
heard, I would always heard of Aesop Rock.
But then Wu Tang is not that farbehind.
Jizz is pretty high up there. And then you get like Jedi mind
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tricks, cannabis and then Doom, who's not that far behind,
right? And Earl Sweatshirt doesn't come
that far behind. At the very tail end of it.
You've got little baby DMXI think is the lowest.
But that's what I always figured, like if if there's
someone who is that that talented just at the wordsmith
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side of it, it's got to be worthlooking into just with unique
words. With the.
But the awesome thing is, it doesn't feel like it.
Like it's, it's not like. It's not homework.
It's not. AI feel like a lot of yeah,
there are hip hop artists that like look how wordy I am and it
and it it it takes you out of the flow of the song yes so the
the one passage that I noted that I wanted to talk I saw on
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the song blood sandwich OK, which is about his which is a
clever name he's talking about his brothers yes.
Oh yeah, that's I think. He's the middle of the three.
Yes, yes he is. And one of part of it is this
little anecdote about his littlebrother at a baseball game.
That's crazy, right? Yeah, but basically little
brother is not really into Little League, but he's playing
baseball anyway. There's a a Gopher something out
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the outfield. He completely ignores the game
to look at that. The other players come over and
look at it. The coach gets pissed off.
So, I mean, this is the lyrics to that little section.
Parents thought it adorable. The players followed suit and in
crawling to a close, head coach not amused.
Coach seeing red coach on the diamond, dragging 27 inches of
aluminum behind him. Just chef's kiss, right?
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Amazing. Just the detail of the length of
the bat, right? When he transverse third, the
families turns. The families turn nervous.
The following is a transcript ofman versus vermin.
Here we go. Man stands up by a hole.
Pest pops up to patrol. Man plays live.
Whack a mole in a scene that would try every child as adults
because, you know, traumatizes. Absolutely.
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It's just like. Yeah, who's telling stories like
that, right? It's so unique, the the word
play, the internal rhyme, all that's of the choice of
traverses, right instead of walks or runs right.
Just so thoughtful. Everything is considered.
Every single word is considered.All things considered, as clips
would say all. Things.
Considered. So obviously I'm giving this an
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everyone rating. Yeah.
And the reason? Well, what's your rating, by the
way? I didn't actually write it down
so everyone fans of the genre. Fans of the artist or no one.
I would say does when I think ofeveryone like I think, does my
wife, should my wife listen to this?
OK, I don't think so. OK, so I'm going to say fans of
the genre. Right.
So that's where I will disagree.OK, respectfully.
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Yeah, absolutely. That's what we're going to do.
So fans of the genre, yes, all hip hop fans should listen to
it. I would go a step farther and
say because of his interesting his clear Annunciation.
Yes, the biggest problem I thinkthat most non hip especially
today. People our age, yes, yes, that's
true. But.
If there's if you could, if you had a list of why do I not
listen to hip hop? I guarantee the number one
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answer is I don't know what the fuck they're saying.
Right right. Which with current stuff is
pretty valid. Yeah, just because of delivery
and then auto tune and all that stuff.
How low their vocals are in the mix, all that kind.
Of so I think ASAP now that I'vecould be a tremendous entry
point to hip hop. Interesting.
OK, because you could start hereand you know, I like it 'cause I
understand what he's saying sure.
And you know, he seems he's got a good flow, blah, blah, blah.
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And I could see this leading to Run the Jewels.
Absolutely. And working their way down and
yeah, they'll never like, you know, some of the crap that
right. But I do think it could maybe
get non hip hop fans to tolerateand check out hip hop.
I like it. So that's why I say everyone OK,
I mean by that. This leads me though, to a
question I needed to ask myself.OK, after getting all excited
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about it. OK.
Let me ask you this. This it is forcing me to
consider my own bias when determining who I think the best
MCS are. OK, because I, you know, I'm
kind of blown away. OK, again, I, I didn't discover
it. He's been out 10 years.
I get it. OK, Right.
I've been busy, right. But I'm like, OK, so add him to
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the top of the list. I'm on the record as having
Eminem at number one. Yeah.
Why do I like white dudes? I thought the same thing.
OK, so I need to, I ask myself, is this because I'm just more
comfortable with them maybe or more familiar with their subject
matter being suburban white guy maybe?
Or, and this is my pet theory, OK, that there's the reverse
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racism thing going on and to oh,you're right.
To raise to a place of prominence in the rap game, if
you're white, you have to be good.
So the only white rappers we really ever hear are
exceptional. They've been filtered out.
We don't know any middling besides like fucking MGK or
whatever, right? But that that it's like you're
the genre's predisposed to not let you win.
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Yeah, sure. So if you're going to get in
right, you got to be really good.
And unique, yes. And incredibly unique.
I mean, Eminem is in a group of one, right?
And I would say ESOP Rock's probably in a group, maybe two
or three. But yeah, no, that's an
interesting point. I I felt the same thing.
I felt a little skeevy after going I'm going, God, why do I
like this so much? It can't be.
I hope that's not it. I'm sure it's part of it, yeah,
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it's got to be at least part of it.
But I, I do think there's a, a matter of, you know, again, to
be noticed, to be taken seriously, you know, you have to
come with an, a game. And I think it it, I don't think
that's a big part of it. And I think we've talked about
this in the past, the whole notion of vibes.
We're less about vibes and more about, I mean, we are very much
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old school, pay attention to every single lyric in hip hop
anyway, for sure. And this is this is music that
this is hip hop that rewards a deep listen, multiple listen.
That's true. Going through genius trying to
figure out what the hell is going on sometimes, but it's but
I always found that fun. I I spent a ton of time in
genius on it with this album, but it was fun.
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Yeah, yeah, it wasn't it wasn't like, oh God, what is he even
saying? I really enjoyed it.
Story raps. I think that's a call back like
the song, like blood sandwich that you mentioned.
That is a very old school thing to do.
We love old school hip hop. That's true.
You were huge on children's story.
Yeah. Yeah.
Slick Rick. Yeah, I thought of that during
during a couple of these. Like they people don't make.
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And I guess that's the other factor that I didn't include is
it is old school and we like oldschool.
So that's the other reason. And Eminem is also, I mean, he's
definitely pays. I mean, he does new stuff, but
he definitely comes from a placeof wanting to honor that.
Heritage. Yeah, it's that boom.
Bap, It's less. Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah, I know. What do you think I mean?
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I mean, check it out. Yeah.
I strongly recommend checking itout.
Yeah. If you are someone, I think
that's exactly right. If you are someone who's not
that into hip hop and you're around our age, Yep, give it a
shot, Yeah. And and in the in the extended
playlist we will tell you which ones we think you should.
Start with yes, now it's time for the EP 10 where we make a
list of 10 music related things,right.
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And this time we're going to do it a little bit different.
Normally we get together ahead of time when we communicate, you
know, in that sort of pre show work.
Yeah, about what the topic is going to be.
And then we come up with the 10 items, whether that's an artist,
a genre, a album or something like that, and then we rank them
together. We're not going to do that this
episode because it's not applicable once you hear what
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the topic is. Yeah.
So this time we're going to I, Ibrought 5 things to the list,
Tank brought 5 things to the list, and we're going to go back
and forth and tell you a free ball.
Yeah, absolutely. The list today is 80s nostalgia
X yes, and that's the kind of thing that needs to be defined
because what does that mean right, right.
So I the only real qualifications with that we're
(28:15):
kind of going to work with here is that they weren't really very
popular before or after the 80s yes.
So they, you know, they might have still carried on, but it
but no one's really paying attention anymore.
And that their music immediatelybrings you back to the 80s
because there are some bands that put up stuff for the 80s.
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It's like, OK, I might like it or not like it, but it doesn't
pull me back to that place. Right.
So these are artists that it's like, oh, wow, the second you
hear it, you are in your your basement, your backyard, your
classroom, whatever. Assuming you were kids then
assuming you were alive then. And if you're watching their.
Show you probably were. Probably were.
Yep. Alright, so go ahead and hit us
with the first of your 5. Sure.
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The first one I thought right away because I I don't listen to
a lot of 80s stuff anymore, but I did about a month ago start
making an 80s playlist. And the first song I put on it
was In a Big Country by Big Country, which I think is just
such a that song, again, I'm immediately in the 80s watching
MTV. It's the, I can picture the
video that's with a lot of these.
I could picture the music video like in the Scottish hills, that
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guitar lick that sounds like bagpipes, but it's not bagpipes.
Just a great song and a very unique in a song that could only
be a hit in the 80s, I feel like.
Right. Like that was a time where
anything went. You could have, you know, pop
next to R&B next to yeah. Yeah, Todd and the Shadows did
an episode. I watched that actually.
Very sad story how that ended up, yeah, but kind of a bummer.
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Great song nonetheless. My my first of the five is the
Pet Shop Boys. OK, very much an 80s thing.
Absolutely. And two or three big hits, yes,
I think West End girls, probablythe boom, boom, boom.
That is a great beat. That's got to have been a hip
hop beat someone has. To if not, if you know what, I'm
going to do some research. If it hasn't, I'm making a hip.
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Hop song based on that? Absolutely.
To join our catalog of original music.
Yeah. So Pet Shop Boys, I mean,
there's not much to say. Fun music, good music, but a
very much a short period of time, yes.
For sure. Likewise with Psychedelic Furs
and my next one on the list, many people immediately go to
soundtracks and think Pretty in Pink and Ghost in You.
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Such a unique voice. I think his name is Richard
Butler. Such a incredibly unique,
distinct voice. As soon as he starts singing,
you know who it is. And yeah, again, I picture John
Hughes movies and that there's nothing more 80s than John
Hughes movies to me. So handful of songs.
They're still touring right now.I feel like they're touring with
somebody else that's kind of bigfrom the 80s.
But anyway. Yeah, probably get some package
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deal usually, Yeah, summer Amphitheatre type thing along
those lines. I had probably the well, the the
second most successful. Jesus, easy for you to say mini
stroke there. Second most successful of the
the band's Culture Club. OK, you are a big Culture Club
fan. Yeah, I mean, I don't know how
you camp. I don't know.
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Really just one album, kind of two, OK, you know, but probably
four or five, six big hits. Yeah.
But it's, they are definitely. Oh yeah.
You know, I, I mean that's like 8485 maybe.
Yeah, it's yeah, early. Yeah, I definitely have that
whole Tigers winning the World Series.
You know that part of my childhood that it holds me back
to? Sure, sure.
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But yeah, they were huge for about two or three years there.
Yeah, I mean, everything from like, they were a cultural
phenomenon because of Boy George's, Boy George's look and
all that kind of stuff. And that could have that could
have only happened in the 80s because that's where we were as
a culture. And it was pre hair metal.
True. So like, yeah, it would only be
two or three years later where it was normalized.
It's like, that's true. Of course Nikki Sixx is wearing
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lipstick. Why wouldn't he?
Right, Right. Arguably, maybe the first one.
No 'cause you had David Bowie and stuff, but.
Yeah, and like New York Dolls and stuff like that, but.
But in a poppy, mainstream sense, you really didn't see it
much. No, you didn't.
That's true. Yeah.
My next one is very obscure, andit's literally only one song.
It's Dan Hartman. No, not that one.
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The song I can dream about you. Yeah, I could dream about you.
No, I can dream about you. I think how much I love this
song. Yeah.
I mean. Who cares?
It is. I think it's I can OK.
Again, this is a movie soundtrack thing.
I found this song so yes, it wasso.
We confirmed it is. I can dream.
About you. OK, what about the movie?
Can we confirm that it was in a movie?
(32:30):
Look. At the the thumbnail of the the
videos movie Streets of Fire. Really.
That's what I'm saying. I don't think it debuted in the
film Streets of Fire, performed by the fictional band The
Sorelles I. Have no recollection of any.
I have no recollection of it being movie related.
And I do like distinctly. I might be confusing it with
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like Holiday Rd. by Lindsey Buckingham I think I always
thought. That's yeah, that the.
National Lampoon. Yeah.
Just a great song. It's got that because it was
like old school. It was sort of like like a blue
eyed soul. Kind of thing a little bit.
Yes, but also based in like 50s and 60's pop a little bit like
there's like a little Doo wop inthe background.
It just if you haven't heard that.
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Song. I mean, if you haven't listened
that song in a while, put it on.It's great.
Dan Hartman I can dream about. You we can definitively say that
same in the song at #3. Not that I've ranked them, but
third on my list is the Eurythmics.
Okay again, very much of A time Annie Lennox, her career in
popularity, you could argue it went up in the 90s when she went
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some solo stuff, that's true. But Eurythmics as a place in
time against super popular some classic songs like you know,
songs that everyone like, Sweet Dreams that you know, culturally
significant songs even. Absolutely, yeah, definitely in
the heart of the MTV. Yes, generation and again, the
androgynous look going the otherway.
(33:56):
Yes, right, which maybe I had a thing for androgyny in the 80s.
Maybe I'm learning a lot about myself through this list.
But no, I you know, if they had a few of them run probably 5-6
big hits and but there's you think, you hear that, you think
80s immediately. I agree.
The next one, I mean, this is so80s to me.
It's the second tape I ever bought.
(34:17):
For long time listeners, viewersof extended play was the Miami
Vice soundtrack. And Yon Hammer's Miami Vice
theme is so incredibly 80s. I mean, Miami Vice, just that
whole thing. Yes, the whole vibe, it's peak
80s it's. Peak 80s, right?
It's the neon suits. It's just Don Johnson, and he's
(34:40):
got three names. Philip Michael.
Philip Michael Thomas. Yeah, that's.
What I thought. Like, like them driving to in
the air tonight, even with the that was the did you know that
was the opening scene to Miami Vice?
That was the very first scene ofthe very first episode.
There's a super cut out there onYouTube of all like cameos.
Yeah, it is mind blowing. It's it's from like musicians to
(35:00):
like a list actors. Absolutely.
Yeah. But that song the the Miami Vice
theme is so 80s again, that could not be a hit today.
No, I mean. No one would play that song, No,
but it's still awesome. No, listen to that.
Actually for my second to last one, I have Journey, OK?
No need to talk about. I mean, everyone knows Journey,
(35:21):
but really man, they really kindof came in early in the 80s and
went away mid 80s and that was it.
Yeah. But starting in the 70s I think
but. Yeah, I looked like two or three
albums, but none of which had any recognizables.
Got it. OK.
Yeah, they definitely. But I mean, early 80s, they were
arguably the most popular band in the world for a while there.
I mean, that's true. It was.
It was everywhere. Yeah, got a little bit of
(35:42):
renewed, like when Glee came outand they did that.
Don't stop believing there was renewed interest.
And The Sopranos. Sopranos.
Yeah. And we grew up in the Detroit
area and the fact that the whole.
Born and raised in South Detroit.
Yeah. For whatever reason, that's a
bar song here. Yeah.
It's really a bar song everywhere.
I think it is. Yeah.
OK, Yeah, We just. Sing the South Detroit.
Park, which is weird again, if you're not from Detroit, there's
no S Detroit. S Detroit is Windsor, yes.
(36:04):
Just bizarre. But anyway, I agree.
Journey, yeah. I mean, yeah, huge.
Yeah, my final one is the first hip hop album I ever bought,
which was Houdini. The freaks come out at night.
They do the polka dots. I don't know if they did, the
one dude had the big. The thing the.
Hat Kwame with the polka dots. Yeah.
(36:28):
Freaks come out at night, friends.
How many of us have them? I don't know what drew me to
that, but that was my first experience with hip hop and I
could not listen to that tape enough.
Again, that is not what hip hop sounds like anymore.
It really almost didn't then it was like a year or two.
There's a year or two. Yeah.
I think Fat Boys was my next tape after that.
So that's that's the world we'retalking about.
(36:50):
It's just so. 80s And Speaking of so 80s, yeah, Huey Lewis in
the news. Absolutely.
I mean, kings of that era. Oh yeah, Two massive albums,
yes. And then not a whole lot.
Yeah, and a soundtrack hit. Right, yes, right.
You know, I mean, that's again, you hear you're Hugh Lewis's
voice and you are instantly transported back to like 1986.
(37:11):
Yeah. Again, a time when a like bar
band, you know, R&B based band can make it and and write these
incredible hits that are played every.
Yeah, it's just a different world though.
Amen to that, brother. Yep.
So those are our 80s nostalgia acts.
What artists album songs do you hear?
And immediately you're right back in the 80s.
(37:34):
Let us know in the comments. And now it's time for the
extended playlist, where we graciously give you 5 songs to
renew your passion for life, formusic, and for us.
For us, Really. Yeah.
So yeah, we pull a little bit from the album.
We talked about the list we do. And then a couple wildcards
because we're wild, crazy guys. And if you take nothing away
(37:54):
from this episode, we'll link toit down here both on Spotify and
YouTube. And if you are a member of our
Patreon, you get an overextendedplaylist of 10 songs.
That's double. That's double.
All right. Yes, check out these five songs.
Yes, nothing. If you take nothing else from us
today. Yes, listen to these 5.
And very first song from the aforementioned ASOP rock
(38:16):
Impossible Kid is Blood Sandwich.
Yup, steps up to the plate little brother Little League 87
he was 8 rookie season for the skinny slugger Nulietta T-ball
pit against a pitcher with a Ripper you can eat off church
dinner gripper loans run a thirdfirst granny yelling gold Cubs
nose in her words, Sir see milfslike apes on a monolithic
Bleacher in and advocating more in peace and little sport and
(38:37):
leisure. Hi Peggy I was 10.
She went on a sweet tart little brother left field Queens guard
mean our knees been two out two warm bags when I caught him
staring down at something movingthrough the grass.
Hold up, tag runner and our whole cast rope safe.
Not before we could identify theculprit.
Granny yelling go Cubs. Graham yelling Gopher.
New left fielder give a fuck about a Homer.
Got a homie. Little rodent head and shoulders
(38:59):
out of subtle. No baseball in the bubble rope.
Rope parents started adorable. The players followed suit and
crawling to a close. Head coach not amused.
Again, if you're just tuning in,if you skipped ahead to get to
the playlist, welcome. Hi, I'm glad you're here.
We reviewed the ASAP Rock album earlier. 9 year old album Blood
Sandwich. You want to get into it a little
bit. Yeah, just we, you know, it's
(39:20):
kind of a a series of kind of short stories and super
interesting word play and the lyrics are great, you know, good
beat. I mean, yeah, pretty much all
his beats are they're good. They're solid off the shelf.
Yeah, they did remind me a lot of RTJ beats.
There's a lot of sort of like retro video game stuff going on.
A lot of dark and menacing shit though.
Also, yeah, that's true, which Iliked.
But no, just it's, if nothing else, just for the the density
(39:43):
of the words and how interestingit is.
It's worth checking out, Yeah. Speaking of density of words and
darkness, as far as content goes, my pick was Suicidal
Thoughts by Notorious BIG. When I die, fuck it, I want to
go to hell 'cause I'm a piece ofshit.
It ain't hard to fucking tell. It don't make sense.
Go into heaven with the goody goodies dressed in white.
(40:03):
I like black Thames and black hoodies.
I'll probably have me on some real strict shit.
No sleeping all day, no giving my lick.
Hanging with the goody goodies, lounging in paradise.
Fuck that shit. I want to talk guns and shoot
nice. All my life I've been considered
as the worst lying to my mother.He was stealing out of purse.
Which is the last song on Ready to Die and it I remember hearing
(40:27):
it and this comes on the back ofof Tupac coming out I think with
not all eyes on me. Maybe it was all eyes on me
anyway, this new sort of confessional, like I'm not crazy
about myself all the time. I have mental health struggles
and I'm willing to talk about it.
Something that is downplayed with Biggie's stuff because it's
so much the big Papa, right? The juicy, that kind of stuff.
(40:48):
But he had this in him, this darkness in him over and over
again. He's talking about like it's not
worth living. I remember that finding that
very brave at the time. Especially at the time.
Especially at the time. And there are moments in ASAP
Rock's album where he talks about similar things about,
like, he's not sure he belongs with the group.
Yeah, Like in Dorks. Yeah.
(41:09):
Where the chorus is something like I'm gonna find it.
Wait, Which is our? 3rd song on the playlist.
It's our third song on the playlist where he has a play on
I'll be over there. So he what he says is.
Oh yeah, party over here. I'll be over there.
Right. Just sort of acknowledging that
like, I know this is where stuffis going on.
Yep. I'm not part of that.
And, and, and I sometimes I wishI was.
(41:32):
Yeah. Sometimes I feel like I am, but
mostly I feel like I don't belong.
Yeah. And that that resonates with me.
Absolutely, I think. I think it resonates with a.
Lot of people, yeah. Right.
And to your point about like this being a good entry into hip
hop, if you're not into the sortof braggadocious, I'm better
than everyone, right? That's not this, right?
If you're like, I'd rather go home and play video games,
right? Check it.
Out That's right. So that's our third, fourth song
(41:54):
from the playlist. 3rd That's our third song with playlist.
4th song is from our list of nostalgia acts. 8 from the 80s
Tank's favorite Culture Club. Yes, miss me blind.
Bitch, you've got a good gun. Bet you will have to have some
fun in there. You turn it around on me because
(42:15):
I'm better than the rest of the men.
I say you miss me and you alwaysdo.
I say you miss me now. Would I lie to you now?
There's no need to be there. Wrap my golden head.
(42:38):
I'll teach you and you'll never be short on.
It's The way that you meet is much like greed.
Beside if you are rich or you'reborn.
I know you miss me. I know you miss me.
I know you miss me belong. I know you miss me.
(43:01):
I know you miss me. I know you miss me.
Belong. Just because it's like one step
below the huge hits, right? And maybe you have listened to
it in a while. Yeah, I'm sure if you're
watching this, you've listened to it, you've heard it, but you
probably listened to it in like 10 or 15 years for sure.
So I'm saying, you know what, it's time, Okay, it's time to go
(43:21):
back and tune into Boy George and the boys and I assume no
girls in that band. But no, check out mystery blind.
It's a great oldie that which fucked up that it's old now, but
it. Is, I know 40?
Yeah. Yeah, Jesus.
Yeah, go check it out. Nice.
And our fifth and final song on the extended playlist this time
around is Life in a Northern Town by the Dream Academy.
(43:42):
Dream Academy, Yeah. Everyone else came down to
listen, he said, and went to 1963.
(44:03):
It felt like the world would freeze with John F Kennedy.
I'm a Beatle. Classic one hit wonder, yes.
(44:32):
Classic 80s. Very, very much like the Big
Country song, Yes, very, very much like the big Country song,
yes. I mean, it's very much in the
same thing. Yes, in that it's completely of
its own thing. No other songs like it, really.
Yeah. They came, they went, and they
left that indelible mark on thatpoint in time.
That was it. But great, I still listen to it.
Maybe monthly. OK, really.
(44:53):
A couple playlists. Yeah, yeah.
All right, good times. So that's our extended playlist
again. Remember, we will link to the
Spotify playlist and the YouTubeplaylist down below.
We do this every time around. Again, if there's nothing else
you take from this episode, these are 5 great songs.
It's a great playlist. It'll make you remember why you
love music so much. Amen.
Join us next time where we will review an album.
(45:14):
We will count down a top ten. Believe it, we will give you an
extended playlist. Yep, that's what we do.
Extended play. You're the extended family.
We'll see you next time. Bye bye.
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