November 28, 2025 • 47 mins
In this episode, we dig deep into Tyler the Creator's "IGOR." It's our first time with Tyler at all, and pretty quickly we realized that we may have picked the wrong album to start with. Plus, a countdown of ten songs to work out to and our newest playlist of five songs to renew your passion for music. What do you think? Did we pick the wrong Tyler album? Any other workout song recommendations? Let us know in the comments!
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This week we're going to talk about Igor from Tyler, The
Creator songs that you like to work out too.
And as always, your extended playlist right here, right now,
an extended. Play it's extended play,
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renewing your passion 5 songs ata time.
I'm E. I'm Tank, and the more intrepid
viewers and listeners might havenoticed that theme song.
It was a little different this week.
Yeah, it was an original. Well, kind of an original, was
it? Covered.
No, it's an original. It's a interpolation or whatever
people like to call it. The reason why that is it's.
We probably could have gotten away with the normal one, but we
are in the midst of copyright hell because God forbid, you
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know, I don't know about you guys out there.
Life's not getting any easier. No, no, I mean, we're getting
old. That's one thing.
Oh yeah. But secondly, it's like, can
there be 1 fucking thing that billionaires don't take away
from us Seriously. Right.
It's like you like you don't have enough.
Yeah. So all we wanted to do, yeah, on
our little show here that occasionally 3 to 4 people
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watch, all right, is give you little snippets of songs that
you could go, oh, hey, that sounds cool.
I see what you guys are talking about.
Yeah, I'm going to add that to alist I'm going to go get.
I'm going to listen to it later,but thanks for giving me a
little clip. Well, apparently we can't
fucking do that. Yeah.
You know why? Fucking Spotify.
Fucking Spotify. Yeah, OK, YouTube's been really
nice. They let us know when we're
when, when they catch something.And then they say, well, you
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know, you shouldn't be using that.
But it's only, we're going to only going to block it in Russia
and Belarus. Spotify is just put the clamps
down. And so anyway, going forward,
you're not going to hear clips for now anyway, because we feel
really bad. We actually do.
We feel really bad for our loyallisteners, people that were
there before the video version of the show who could listen to
every episode. Now it's getting blocked on all
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the podcasting platforms. Which is such a chicken shit
move because so a little, I mean, a little behind the
curtain, you might already know.But like, so there's something
called fair use, which in theoryshould allow people for the uses
of criticism, satire to play a little bit of the song.
And that's why we would keep theclips relatively short.
So YouTube does what makes totalsense and what you think
everyone should do, which is to say, hey, we noticed you used
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something that someone has a copyright to.
No harm, no foul. But if there's any money to be
made, they're going to get it right.
Which is fair. Yeah.
But Spotify bitches are just like, you know what?
No. And then they have the balls
though. This is The funny thing.
And this is the state of the late stage capitalism that we're
living in to give you the illusion of choice or or I'm
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looking for where the. There you go.
OK, yeah. To say, hey, by the way, we got
a problem. Why did you use that?
And you go, hey, well, fair use.It's music criticism.
They go, OK, thanks. And then they just fucking put
it in a corner. And then a machine like a week
later goes, we looked at it. No, you didn't.
No, you didn't. And we determined no, fuck you
and the entire episode. So basically, if we try to
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include a 22nd clip of the fucking Ohio Players or
something right then the entire fucking episode is not.
You know what? I should try to put something
that's in the public domain to see if they even, right, the AI
even catches that. Like, I'll put in the happy
birthday song, right? Which we know is in the public
domain. I got a big hair, right?
That's fine. Yeah.
It's super fucking frustrating for us, like on the on the back
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end of it. And.
But moreover, for you, the wholeidea of the show is to help you
renew your passion for music. And we thought part of that
would be to like, I don't know, play some fucking music, you
know? But I guess if our Lord and
Savior Rick Beato can't get awaywith it, then we really can't
get away with it. I mean, who the fuck are we,
right? The Otto can't and it's just,
it's madding because all it would do in theory is drive you
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to purchase or stream more music.
Yes, from their platform exactly.
Yeah, Yeah. So.
Anyway, they can fuck off, honestly.
Yeah, honestly. You can't just let us have
music. I know.
Can all the billionaires and soon to be fucking trillionaires
get together and go, hey guys, we've get all the pussy, all the
yachts, all the drugs, all the power.
Can we let them stream the fucking songs?
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Can we do that and then some fucking 97 year old old fucking
crypt keeper pops over the back?No, we cannot because my sexual
gratification comes from denyinghappiness to other people.
And you know that's what it is. People.
They've got enough money, they get off, probably literally on
you not being able to do anything you enjoy.
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They it is not for the love of of the music and the protection
of the arts. Streaming wouldn't exist if they
had the right amount of respect for the arts.
This whole separate conversationright?
All the guilt I feel about subscribing to the streaming
service with all the terrible shit they do, not only as far as
how much they pay the artist, but just what they're investing
my money in. Yeah.
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It's just I think things are going to have to change and they
will change, will change eventually, I think.
But going forward, folks, if you've missed the last few
episodes because they've been blocked, head over to YouTube.
I'm not recutting them, probablyto take out the music.
It's too much work for the threepeople that are watching.
Thank you, Frank, RJ and let's say Biff, Stephanie.
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A little bit of Rita yeah but yeah so we're hoping and we
talked about this the other day in a believe it or not even more
animated conversation yes that just like streaming was kind of
didn't make any sense whether it's they've reached the perfect
solution or not there's at leasta solution that makes some sense
yes right 'cause maybe title pays more fairly whatever
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they're still working it out this whole thing about music
being used in the context of a podcast and the.
The flying ointment here is podcasts are usually free right?
True. So it's a free product that
contains a paid product, which to them the streaming music is a
paid product. They haven't figured out how
yet. My guess is the way it goes is
either the creators pay a small fee to license the music or you
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pay whatever. God forbid the people that
downloaded on Spotify as a paid member can listen to it
unadulterated because they can listen to the whole fucking
song, right? Whatever.
We're hoping this is just temporary and by the time we
start our next season or next year, whatever, we have songs
back in there. But for now, we're going to have
to take them out, and you're going to have to listen to our
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Like, yeah, we talked about it like we're going to up have to
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What time signature, signature it's in.
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But we should get into it. Yeah, if you're joining us for
the first time, sorry about all that.
What we do here is we a bitch, and we do bitch a lot, but we
also review albums, either a current, a crate or a classic
album. We do a top ten countdown of
something or other, something fun usually.
And then we give you with no music now, with no music.
And then we give you a playlist of five songs to renew your
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passion. So which you should?
I mean, he will. He will link it up.
Yeah. So now more than ever, please
click on the playlist. Yeah.
Just listen to five new songs because, you know, I'll tell you
why. Why we're still doing this.
Yeah, it's not just the money and the bitches.
Which are plentiful. Which are substantial.
It's because the by, by having to do this, we are constantly
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exposed to new music and we really are putting some thought
into like, but you know, hey, people, here's some.
It's not always new. It could be stuff that it's
like, yeah, you knew that song 20 years ago, You haven't
listened to it since. And we're saying, hey, pop it
in. Yeah, it's worth another listen.
Absolutely. And, and always one song, at
least one song in the playlist is a song from the album.
We review that episode. And in this instance, the album
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we are reviewing is Igor by Tyler, The Creator.
The reason why we're reviewing this random 2019 Tyler album, I
think there's been five since then, is because we're not all
that familiar with Tyler, The Creator.
No, and he's it's not even a renaissance.
I think he's still continually reaching new heights, right?
He's still he's still on the ascent of his career.
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And I have mixed feelings about Teller the creator as an artist,
not so much about is he a good artist?
It's a definite yes. It's is he as good as
advertised? Because I think, I think that
he's become in some ways a critical darling that I can do
no wrong. And there are times that I, I'm
skeptical, which is kind of my natural role anyway.
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Yeah, for sure, for sure. But we, you know, Chromocopia of
course, is the newest. Yes, no, there's another one
after. That really don't.
Break the glass, I think. It's Oh, that's true, but that
was kind of a. Yes, I think be sorry.
Much like yeah, is it really a blah blah blah.
Good point though, But no. So we don't have much before
that at all and we decided to pick Could've been Igor,
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could've been flower boy. There's really Igor.
Flower boy I think are 1A and 1B.
Are they amongst fans for like, what is his best?
Album OK, so I didn't look that up.
You looked that up, I think ahead of time.
That's why we picked Igor. I'm glad you did because
multiple times, and we'll get tothis when we start talking about
the album I wrote down. Did we choose the wrong album?
I think we did OK. My second note here is it's
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almost more R&B and rap than rap, and I don't like R&B, so
this tempers my excitement for what, this album 100?
Percent. I wrote down the almost word for
word the exact same note. So like, OK, so so we'll, we'll
start there. Tyler, the Creator.
If someone is not familiar, they've probably heard the name.
What is he? OK, well, that's a good, that's
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a good question. He's many things, right?
He contains multitudes. He does so the the the first
layer. The obvious would be like he is
a hip hop artist, but then another layer deeper is not
quite and it's more avant-garde.Yes, and it he's made his own
lane really. He's a genre of 1 essentially.
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I mean he's it is for sure hip hop, but it is also, and this
album in particular, it is also R&B.
Right. So this one was definitely a bit
of a detour into more R&B territory.
So I realized I actually made a lot of notes, and then in the
time until we recorded, I had time to listen to other stuff.
I'm like, no, those concerns or points are kind of moot because
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it's unique to this album. OK, no, the one, the one, the
one that the way that I I like to have a snappy summary.
He does, I do, But I I from thisalbum, at least I say I feel
like he's created his own lane between R&B and hip hop, like a
new non Nazi Kanye West. Sure, only slightly less
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talented. Well, essentially, I think so.
This won best rap album, the Grammy that year.
OK. And then Tyler said something I
think in the acceptance speech, essentially, like I don't like,
like this is really isn't a rap album.
And I don't like that anytime someone that looks like me and
kind of raps is put into the rapcategory, basically calling him,
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calling out, being racist. If it's not, I'm sure it's a I'm
positive it's at least a little racist to do that.
But I think moreover, it's reductive to the whole notion of
genres is reductive anyway, right?
Like it's, it's only useful if you know you like a certain kind
of music and it's a shortcut foryou to go into.
It's the only time it's really useful.
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But since then there is a rap category.
There is a Grammy now for like Best.
What's it called? Rap, Rap slash singing album.
I think it's a direct result of this album, which is great.
That makes way more sense to me because there is tons of that,
right? Half of the rappers that we
really don't connect with are doing this sing rap thing.
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Heavily auto tuned, right? Yeah.
Comes from comes from Kanye, essentially.
He's started it. All I mean, not to defend the
Grammys, but like when an artistgoes in a slightly different
direction for an album, yeah, you can't expect everyone to
reclassify you right? Wait, there's a certain
convenience to it of like, look,you're a hip hop artist
normally. Yeah, you made a good album.
We don't know where else to. Put you sure?
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What did they do with Beyoncé though?
With It's Like Country. It was country, but but that's a
that was what, you know, six years later, yes, and right.
B, there was there's no subtlety.
And, and plus, Beyoncé is not anything in the sense of she's
a, she's a, she's a pop artist. She again transcends genre.
She's a pop artist, yeah. So a pop artist can say I'm
doing a blank album and it's easy to reclassify them.
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That's true. A hip hop artist can't just say
I'm metal now. Unless you're Ice T, that's your
Ice T with Bodyguard, who is legit by the way.
So like from a metal standpoint?It's actually good.
It was not well, I mean. The songs are hit or miss, but
his being a metal singer is not a gimmick.
Oh, he really digs. It I mean it's been 30 fucking
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years and more he's still doing it.
So like his his love of like oldSlayer and stuff and like it's
real. That's all.
I like the music, but it's he's never been faking it.
Sure. Yeah.
So anyway, back to Igor, you know that as did that, that sort
of discovery is going to shade our conversation a little bit.
So be prepared for that. So again, first, the only album
we've listened to all the way through from Tyler, the Creator,
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we may have picked the wrong one.
We both are on record as saying we don't really enjoy R&B, so we
were already predisposed to not liking this a whole lot.
Right. And when you know, I can't help
myself and maybe you do the samething to some extent, you must
that when you listen to this in Spotify, certainly on a desktop
like I do you, you see the play count of all the songs.
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Oh, I did. So I don't look at that.
Oh, really? Yeah.
OK, so that's that definitely. Oh, interesting.
I should probably stop doing that, but I'm always on the
computer when I do it. Yeah, sure.
But. And if anyone listens to Spotify
on your laptop, you know what I'm talking about.
But like you, because I always have to have Spotify UI by the
way, I just want to see the fucking album and sometimes I
feel like I need to click 17 times to get back to the fucking
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album. I don't.
I don't need to see the bio for the 20th time.
They don't. They don't by the way, I mean,
again, digression, They don't want you to listen to albums.
That's they don't. They want you to listen to their
mixes that they make where payola is involved, right?
Where record companies are paying to get their artists or
their AI artists that somebody in a fucking office, Spotify
office in Sweden has made-up andmade-up fake names anyway and go
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on and on. But yeah, they don't, they don't
make it easy to see the album art to, to, to play the whole
album to even if you're on a song, let's say you're in a
playlist, a random playlist, Spotify playlist and you see a
song and you're listening to a song.
You're like, this fucking rocks.I'm going to press the three
dots and see get to the album. Yep.
View album is so far down the menu in the UX it's crazy.
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And you know, by the way, shout out to if anyone who is involved
in the user interface for automobile sees this.
Oh, sure. All I want is if if I'm in
shuffle mode, OK, and I get to acertain song, give me a button
that says go to this album or shuffle this album.
Think about it. Yeah, you're on shuffle.
It's like, oh, I like this song.I want to hear songs from this
album. Yes.
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Can't do it. That's weird.
Yeah, anyway, so when you look at the album in that lineup, it
has plays and you could see these gigantic discrepancies
between songs, especially in like a greatest hits or
something. Or if it's like an old classic
album with one super hit, you'llsee like 1 billion streams and
then the one underneath it has like 74,000.
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But it can't help but pre dispose your attitude towards
the songs because it's like, OK,this is the popular one.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So on this film, it's
Earthquake. Yeah.
Second. Well, the first real track,
right? Not Earthquake.
Earthquake with an F, which I should take that.
I know I like it too. Far and away the most streamed
song. I don't like it at all.
And I don't even understand why it was.
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I mean, it's it's quirky. Everything Tyler does is quirky
and different. Yes.
But it I just didn't think it was good.
I wrote down when is he going torap?
Hey Blackie, that's not what? What are you going to do?
The rapid thing I pay you to do?Again, this is with the
preconceived notion that this was a hip hop album.
It is not. I mean hip hop, OK, hip hop's
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the culture then yes, absolutely.
But and then there's someone else rap slurring about who is
this person rap slurring in the middle?
Is it Ty? So that was also confusing to me
because there's a bunch of guestspots on the album.
I identified maybe one because Tyler does this thing where he
sings, he raps, he pitches up his vocals, he pitches down his
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vocals, he adds a bunch of distortion onto it.
I never know. It's if it's actually him, It's
cool. Actually, I really, I do
appreciate that. I've I've said that about other
artists who do this like mix it up, like the Rosalia album.
Her voice sounds different trackto track to track.
I think that's really cool, but not being familiar with his
flow, I guess I'm like, who is this now?
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Oh I guess and I look back afterI read and that's Playboy Cardi
in the first one which I alreadywas predisposed to.
Not like Playboy Cardi but agreed.
Earthquake not good. I said is the whole I've been
praying the whole album isn't like this.
If it's not like this, this is aweird choice for the first
track. Right.
And it turns out the album kind of was like that.
It was. It was.
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And the The funny thing is, is you know, we we do this
discreetly and then we compare notes after and both of us
picked what's good. As I mean, my note is it's the
first songs I loved on my first listen and which it's the ninth
track. It's the ninth track.
So like you're, you're slogging through some R&B now again it So
my note with regards to what's good is that I didn't really
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love a song until then. But even until then, I was
curious enough to enjoy the listening.
Yeah. That's fair.
It was like it was novel, right?Like it was 8 songs that
preceded that where it was like,I don't really like this but
it's something. Yeah, it's different.
So mine was a little bit different when I got to 9 and I
was like hopeful, like maybe there's more of this.
I don't know why I thought that.And then immediately with gone
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gone slash, thank you. The next track I was
immediately, now he's like angry.
Now I'm in like God damn it, I don't want.
And I literally wrote no thank you.
And the song's called thank you,make it stop.
So go along. It's, it's just this isn't a
case where it might be good, butit is not for me.
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It's not for. Us and my last note is that some
of the songs do feel like good concepts that were stretched too
long. Well, the whole thing we should
say is a concept album, a loose concept album.
Falling in love, falling out of love and then essentially trying
to get come to grips with it but.
Then, but you might have a 5 minute track that really could
have been 3 minutes. Oh, absolutely.
Because that's what I think why it feels like a drag so much is
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it's like, yes, that is a cleverhook or a clever sample or, but
it's not 6 minutes. So I wrote that down over and
over again that this sounded like an album made for TikTok in
that it's all hook like there are.
So there are three or four hooksin every song.
That's impressive. I can't write a pop hook like as
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a feat, as a artistic expression.
That's awesome. You can see why people like
Tyler, but I couldn't. I say this a lot about how I
can't find a footing or I can't find anything to grab onto when
I do need, from time to time, a traditional verse, chorus, verse
structure. And it was so hard to find that
that he would spend long portions of the track just with
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this R&B hook sometimes. Then there'd be a hard
transition to a different beat entirely.
Verses would start and then justkind of meander.
Some would be twice as long as others.
The lack of structure seems verythis.
So I wrote down, this makes me feel old and I haven't felt old
listening to music in a long time.
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Like it made me feel like this is not like this is what younger
people want. They want more ear candy,
immediate gratification, something they can put behind
them on TikTok and. It's catchy and they'll get
views. That's what this felt like to
me. Yeah, and it probably is what it
was maybe right. I mean, because not everything
is for us. Right again, which is fine and
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This is why we do this. So which?
So who is it for? Right.
So our ratings. Yeah.
See that segue right there? Yeah.
Well done. Thank you.
Our ratings are not one through 10.
Not telling if it's a good or a bad album because by and large,
we think these are good albums, including this one.
But we have a recommendation of should everyone listen to it,
fans of the genre, fans of the artist, or should no one?
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Because it's absolute ass. Yeah, it's ass for this one, I
think. Fans of the genre, no.
Whether that genre is hip hop orR&B, More hip hop than R and BI
guess, but sure. Yeah, give it a listen.
And it some of those hooks, someof the songs might be
worthwhile. Yeah.
I just don't think that if you're not already sort of
adjacent to this, you're not going to like it.
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OK, so I let me pause at this though, because I had this
thought. I you can make an argument that
this is for everyone in that I thought like if you if you think
you don't like hip hop, if you are like, and I'm talking like
you are older than us, you're like hip hop is a thing I've
never understood, right. If you tried this, you it could
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potentially be a gateway to hip hop.
Maybe I don't know, because I'm either there it's for everyone
that way or I'm on the completely other end.
I don't I actually don't think anyone needs to listen to this.
I don't I don't know that that'snecessarily true.
I'm a little bit vexed by this. I don't ever want to listen to
it again. I will never listen to it again.
It's because it's so not for me but.
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But but could it be a gateway drug to hip hop for people that
are more used to R&B maybe? Maybe right, Maybe.
Like, yes, it could be a Hail Mary that a a 60 year old person
who likes, you know, Al Green and it's like, OK, so this is
current R&B, which it's not necessarily, but it could be a
sneaky way to get them to listento hip.
Hop Sure, sure, it could be. Yeah, that makes sense to me.
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So in certain use cases, yes, right.
But yeah, but otherwise, like I said, personally, I don't need
to listen to it again. Do you need?
Do you, the extended family needto listen to it?
If you like hip hop, give it a shot.
But I honestly, from what I fromthe singles that I do know from
Flower Boy and I'm sure we'll give that a listen sooner or
later. Yeah.
Yeah. We should probably want to go
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that route and save this one forlater in your journey.
Yeah. No, that makes sense to me.
What did you, what do you think of Igor?
Do you have another album that we should have started with?
I'm sure you do. We're going to get a lot of
that, which is great. We love that.
Let us know what we missed. We already we admitted it's not
for us, but what would be for usif you know us.
I mean, we got a pistol and fistright here.
That should give you a pretty big hint, a big a pretty big
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hint of what we're into. Please let us know in the
comments. We'd really appreciate it.
All right, and check your watch 'cause now it's time for the EP
10. It is.
It is. Wow.
What are the odds? That worked out nicely.
Today's episode, we are going todo 10 songs to work out to.
Yeah. And you're looking at us and
you're thinking. You're thinking, do you guys not
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listen to music? I mean, that's one of the first
things I wrote down. I think this is a great topic.
We decided these topics, right? If you'd like to give us a topic
for an EP10, please let us know in the comments.
But Tank actually came out with this.
I think it's a great topic. I have not been in a gym in 13
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years. Yeah, I mean.
I have like within the past few months, but not as much as yeah
it should be. So it's a big asterisk on this,
right? Like.
But when we do. It ain't happening, folks.
Well, but when we do this is what would be on the the MP3
player because that's what we were listening to last time we
were in the gym, 100. Percent.
That's what I had to think aboutwas what MP plus?
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On my I'm a yellow Rio MP3 player that's 128 megabytes.
And I was like, I remember sitting there agonizing.
Which 30 songs am I going to bring to the gym?
Yeah, sure. Yeah, I had an iPod classic by
the time I was actually working out regularly, but I totally
had. I had to do it.
You have to do it on your PC, right?
Go on your PC. Connect it with a mini USB.
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And make the playlist and. Import it.
And then I got the green one that was 256.
I was fucking life. Changing, but it was yeah, 256.
Wow. Anyway, okay.
All right, so I will kick it offwith the first song that I
would. And I and I used to do a fair
amount of weight lifting. You did?
I don't anymore. Yeah, but I did.
Which obviously shades the type of music.
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Oh, sure. Sure.
So you need maximum anger? I think so.
My first choice is from a band called Pantera.
I've heard of them. And it is called regular people,
parentheses, conceit. This is one of those songs that
amongst people who are, you know, somewhat fans of metal or
know of Pantera, you know the song you would never know.
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This was the name of the song. Oh, for sure, for sure.
It's the one where the chorus says most regular people would
say it's hard. And any streetwise son of a
bitch knows. Don't fuck with this.
Yeah, and they think maybe the song is called Don't Fuck With
This or something. It should be.
It should be. That's a great.
Jesus, talk about a missed opportunity.
But yeah, that song goes hard. It does.
It does. And you do not want to fuck with
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this, no or that. Or any or any of it?
Any of it. Yeah, Great, great.
Song to work out too. Oh, absolutely.
I put it on in the car earlier today to remind myself what it
was like. It is way deep in the track
list. What?
That album, Vulgar Display Poweris packed, dude, it's crazy.
I mean, Hollow was the last song.
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Jeez. Yeah.
Pretty impressive, yeah. Also, I was just thinking, like,
man, they did. They stand out for a number of
reasons, not least of which incredible riffs.
Like, unparalleled riffs, like, great, just artistry overall,
like drumming, bass. But nobody else at that time was
singing like Phil Anselmo was, really.
And now hundreds and hundreds ofprobably thousands of bands do,
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right? You know, it was they were, I
mean they kind of not flashed inthe pan.
They had two, you know, yes, Vulgar Display and Cowboys from
Hell, yes, far beyond driven. And then it was a pretty steep
drop. Yes.
But yeah, man, for a moment in time there it was.
Good stuff. I can I agree great workout
song. So as I mentioned a little bit
ago, these songs are pretty old because it's been a long time
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since I worked out bulls on parade by Rage Against the
machine. Any Rage Against the machine
probably full album is really good.
This one in particular, there's not a lot of lulls.
There is the quiet loud thing right?
But sometimes in one of the bestthings about Rage is their
ability within a song to be likevery groovy and funk funky like
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like like a funk song and then be super heavy, right?
This song is mostly heavy. Favorite part at the end is when
they break. When everything drops, you
listen to the weird sort of scratching guitar solo.
Everything drops except for the guitar.
Doing the wow wow waka wow wow waka waka waka.
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That's your job. You're.
Welcome. That's what we're reduced to now
for music samples. But they do that and then, you
know, Zach says come with it nowand then they get back and then
they add the drums and then things start swelling.
And then I really love in songs when they do, when you have a
drum beat throughout and then like the third or fourth time
they add something to it and they add these crashing cymbals
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to the end at the very end. It's just you cannot help but be
fired up at the end of that songin particular, the video I
remember that's when they're showing lots of video, almost
all of it rock Videos at the time were like fake studio
performances or live performances.
All rage ones were like, you know, facts about the how the
government's right out to get you.
Like footage of monks on fire pretty much all the time.
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Right. But at the very end they're
showing the crowd, and I don't know where it is, but you're
seeing like one of these huge 75,000 people crowds moving in
waves, just jumping up and down.Really wish we could have saw
them. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, anyway. Yeah, great song to work out to.
Awesome. Next up for me, slightly
different direction is from the roots and the song is called the
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fire. This one is more of a cardio
song. OK, it's a it's up tempo.
It's very much AI don't know aspirational confirmation kind
of and the great song. I mean, like a lot of the roots
songs, especially at this point in time and and their
discography, but yeah, gets me fired up.
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It's there's actually. And and I use it a lot for not
just the workout stuff, but sometimes some anxiety getting
past anxiety. Oh sure, yeah, I used it to get
myself fired up like a little pep.
Talk. Yeah, exactly.
Yeah. When I I'd never heard it
before. Like I I had stopped listening
to the Roots at this point. I don't, I don't know why I was
listening to something else or got distracted.
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It sounded to me like it was made to be like the cutaway.
I think they call him a Stinger at an NBA game.
Yeah. Like you're going to commercial.
Because it is. It's so positive.
I'm this, I'm this. I can do this, right?
Yeah. I really dug it.
Yeah. And yeah.
And there's like the one line, like on the definition of
tragedy turned triumph. Yes, yes.
Exactly right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It hits hard. Yeah, nice, nice choice.
My next choice is a song I have not worked out to actually so,
but I think it would if I did work out, this would be great.
It's don't play all caps by turnstile.
I mean it's in all caps actually.
All their songs are in on this album are in all caps I think.
All of them in all. Of them in all albums?
Yep, it's kind of their thing. Or maybe.
It's just they have one keyboardfor the band and caps lock is
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stuck like fuck it just go with it.
It'd be amazing, be amazing. This starts, this starts the
sort of theme in my songs that Ipicked in that there are
different sort of movements in agiven song where it's it's like
3-2 or three songs in one, whichI really like because I did
remember that, you know, you do have cooldowns and you do have
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moments where you're in between,in between sets and you don't
necessarily need to be super hard.
Maybe sometimes you do. They would like to get pumped up
about the next set. But I like to be super hard.
I know you do like to be super hard.
Super hard right now. Great.
Fantastic. Yeah, There's like samba in it,
but then it turns to like super heavy rock at the end.
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I really like it. Yeah.
Any shouts? There's also the shouting.
That's becomes a theme here too,is a lot of people yelling, a
lot of shouting, a lot of shouting.
All right, Next up for me, I'm gonna go with I'll go with her
on the jewels. So again, kind of whereas the
fire was really more of a cardiosong, kind of smooth.
And the ground below is it's grittier, grimier, crunchier,
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drums hit hard and just just a more of a staccato.
But it definitely has this charging like if you're going
after something. Absolutely.
And one of my favorite RTJ songs.
Not RTH. I sent him a text earlier with
RTH. I'm like, where the hell are
they? No, but it's definitely if I had
to pick the one RTJ song to playat the gym and get pumped up
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too. It's just, I don't know, it's
just got a good vibe to get you.I don't know, fuck really.
That whole album for sure. RTJ 4 is just feels.
Aggressive. It is very aggressive.
So one of the things I thought about when we reviewed ASOP Rock
was like, that is the one thing that's kind of missing from ASOP
rock. That's true, right?
Is that hard edge that's in a lot of other hip hop.
Not that I don't appreciate it, but yeah, you're right.
This album is, I mean, my next choice is something completely
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different. It is a song called Wasted Days
by Cloud Nothings. I played Cloud Nothings on this
before. You didn't care for it all that
much, which I think is fine. It's punk rock, really.
But like, not punk rock. Like, I don't know, I feel like
you say punk rock. You immediately think like, I
don't know, Sex Pistols. What do you think?
Remotes? It's not like that.
So it's more like, I don't know,post rock anyway, garage rock,
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something like that. It's a very long song.
This again, this is becoming a theme.
The song is very long and has multiple movements and there is
a moment in the song where thereis a lot of fast, slow and
build. And there is a point where he
gets the chorus is essentially one phrase, which is I thought I
would be more than this. And that's a heavy line.
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I got goose gobumps saying that right, 'cause like, if you're
and if you're working out right,like you are in the improvement
game, right, then that is something to get you kind of
like be be a little reflective, but also think, well, I can be
more than this. And you and by and, you know,
grab the bench press and do yourthing.
But and then by the end he's screaming it right.
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Like as a release, like I like angry about it.
And I think that's a perfect time to really get into a nice
That's the peak of a workout. The next one I'm gonna go with
is the probably the most predictable, but it fits.
It's Saint Anger by Metallica. I mean Saint Anger as an album.
Yeah, we've all heard the jokes.Yes, I know about the snare
sound, but as a the the album was, regardless of what you
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think of it, as a standalone exercise.
It was a necessary step for the band to stay together.
Very much a cathartic exercise for the band.
And if you're in the right headspace, it hits perfect
because all that just fucked up in this that they were feeling
and going through it you. It does translate, but you have
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to be willing to receive it right?
Sure, if you are in an angry place it just hits and no, it
the song's too fucking. Long.
It's long. It doesn't need to be 7 1/2 or 8
minutes, whatever it is that's really everything Metallica
sense fucking the black album. You could say the same thing as
like could've cut 2030% off editcome on.
But even then ended live it is Iwould highly recommend go find a
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live version because the snare is fixed.
OK, they do trim it up. They add a guitar solo.
OK, yeah. But I mean, there's, you know,
again, some of the stuff and a lot of the stuff on Saint Anger
and some other songs that the James Isms.
It's it's easy to write it off as corny, but sometimes corny is
true. You know, just like love songs,
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right, Where it's in a love songwhere it's like, you know, oh, I
didn't know who I was till I metyou.
Whatever. You fucking roll your eyes.
But when you're really in love, that's how you feel.
Totally kind of the same thing with Saint Anger.
A lot of the stuff, some of these smarmy fucking critics are
like, oh, geez, that's corny. I go, yeah.
But if you're truly furious, like, you know, like madly in
anger with you, right? Play on words.
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OK, But if you really are feel that way, like those words
resonate for sure. So yeah, when I'm really in a
place to fucking just burn off bad energy, that helps me do it.
Because of course, like does he say fuck it all?
Is that what he says over there?Fuck it all and fucking no
regrets? Like, you know, so like turn the
lights on these dark sets. So it's a reference to Damage
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Incorporated. Perfect.
I love with the fuck it all fucking because he says first of
all, he says fuck it all, no regrets.
And the next one he does fuck itall.
Fucking no regrets. There's a I'll see if I can find
it. There's a social media clip of a
guy adding the adding the word fucking to a bunch of yeah
songs. But he adds it like that in a
weird place where he's like, like he sings like a fucking sky
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rockets, yes. I have seen that so good.
That's what it. Feels like to be a little bit.
The one cat, the one other footnote I would say is the the
video helps this song. Oh, OK.
So the video was shot at San Quentin prison and like the
beginning is like them signing awaiver like if you get taken
hostage. It's not.
Our problem. But they perform it in front of
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the prisoners and it's interspersed with even, I'll say
kind of hokey cheesy background stories of the prisoners.
But but the again, the energy right of the people in prison
energy came out the wrong way. It actually helps and it's 5 1/2
minutes long. So oh, nice, nice edit job.
Oh, OK. Yeah, excellent.
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My second to last choice is a song that I mentioned on this
podcast numerous times. It's called Brought to the Water
by Death Heaven. Again, long song.
I think it's 9 plus minutes long.
Yeah, it's the first song on thealbum New Bermuda, which is
right behind me again, my mic isin the way.
This was the the this album was a follow up to Sunbather, which
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was their breakout album and they, I think they this album is
very dark intentionally. Like even the imagery is really
dark and super heavy. It's incredibly heavy and heavy.
Music's good for workouts and none of that.
I don't know what the fuck he's saying.
You can't understand any of it. But what I do like about this,
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they're perfect. They're the perfect heavy band
for me. And this is actually going to
play into what we talk about next with the next band you're
going to say is I think is that their lyrics aren't bullshit.
Devil, do you know what I mean? They're not black.
Like they're not about goblins and fucking and shit like that.
It's actually basically spoken word poetry.
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And if I I can put the lyrics a link to the lyrics below or
something like that, They're these lyrics are beautiful and
he's going through something andhe's having visions and it's
like word painting. But if you're screaming, you
don't need to rhyme, right? So you have a lot more freedom.
So the lyrics are really beautiful, but the song is
incredibly aggressive and great to work out too.
Again, if I worked out. If you worked out, yeah, that's
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the asterisk on all this. So now we are into the extended
playlist portion of the show. Yes, 'cause we are not done with
the EP 10. But that's because two of these
songs are on your five song playlist.
That will renew your passion. So again, I, we cannot stress
this enough, find the link to the playlist.
If if we ask for nothing else for this whole experience,
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listen to the five goddamn songs.
Absolutely. OK.
You're going to like a couple ofthem or a few of them.
You're going to listen to a new album if you stick with it long
enough, Yeah. You're going to find a whole lot
of music that either you forgot you loved or that you never knew
about. Yep.
I'll also make a playlist of theworkout songs because I think
that would be super helpful. Exactly that's.
Actually, that's a useful one. Yeah.
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So my final EP10 song, which is on the playlist, is a song by
Slipknot, which I'm assuming you're referring to as he's
referring to called All Out Life.
I mean, it's kind of garden variety.
Slipknot in the sense that yes, it's aggressive.
You know, a lot of bro macho. Yeah, lyrically, it's right,
Yeah. So when what?
What are you thinking of? When you think of SO.
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So Slipknot is a is a huge blindspot for me because I couldn't
get past the imagery. Yes, and I oh, the masks and
everything. The masks.
It's actually a real problem. I think it's very triggering for
me. I don't know.
I don't. I don't have a clown thing.
Yeah, it's pretty freaky though.I don't like it.
Yeah, I don't like it one bit. No, thank you.
Pass. So.
And that imagery is on the albumcovers as well.
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So I think it was a barrier to entry.
I was also, I think when Slipknot started to become big,
I was probably in my like, my like, indie rock twee, like, you
know what I mean? Like very gentle, right?
Not offensive background music. I think I was in that phase when
they were starting to come out. So I wasn't even listening to
this. Kind of music.
Slipknot is they it's heavy, it's fast, but they've really
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they're really good at crafting songs.
Right, I like this. I listen to it.
So whenever you get people of metal, the same thing Metallica
faces, they're they're a heavier, fast, faster version of
Metallica in the sense that theymake good songs.
But people true metalheads, theyjust can't deal with any kind of
rhythm or song craft. They're fucking sell outs.
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No, they're not. They just know how to write a
song. Whereas fucking Cattle Mutilator
or whatever the fuck your favorite, they can't write good
songs. Right.
Yeah, it's a 10 minute meandering movie soundtrack
with. But Corey Taylor, amazing
vocalist, so everything he singsand screams, he's a very good
screamer, has a very good fuck you edge to it.
But yeah, just a great. You know, again, angry.
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You know, let's get corny. Like I challenge you to all out
life. Like what does that even mean?
Yeah. Who cares at that point?
Exactly. Like, yeah, I'm not, I'm not
here for the poetry. Interesting side note on this
song, though, is that in the chorus.
So this was a single that came out and then not long after the
album We Are Not Your Kind came out.
OK Good album, by the way. Oh, nice.
OK. In the chorus of this song, they
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say We are not your kind. Oh, it's not on the album
because the drummer left the band.
I could I, I might be fucking this up and, and no one fucking
cares, but I'm pretty sure this was the Weinberg's last.
Not Weinberg. Maybe the guitarist.
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Just trust me, someone in the band left the band and they
didn't want to go through the legal headache of having this
song on the album because that person was on this song.
So basically they cut a song thinking it would be the lead
single to the album and then theperson scram.
OK, they can't figure out the writing credit logistics.
Interesting. Fuck it, it's not on the album.
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So you have a stand alone singlewith the chorus that says we are
not your kind, but it's not on the album.
We are not. That's very.
Odd. It is OK Oh, that's kind of
cool. Definitely check it out.
It's there's a hole. There's like 5 to 10 Slipknot
songs that are even if you're not a real metal person, it's
just they're just groovy yes, well constructed songs yeah.
I really appreciate he does ridethat line of sing screaming yes.
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It is like a lot like Phil Anselmo, but but even more
melodic. Yes, yeah.
Which I I appreciate because. By his I mean Stone Sour was his
first. Ball, right?
It was his first band. Yeah, I.
Didn't know it was Stone Sour first, Slipknot second.
I'm learning so much about Slipknot today.
Yeah, hold on. My last song from the workout
song playlist and my first contribution to the extended
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playlist is a song called RocketSkates by Deftones.
So I actually little trip down memory lane for me when I did
have the iPod and I was actuallyworking out, it was during the
time of Deftones self-titled album.
I think it's their third, fourth, whatever.
And I listened to that album a lot when I was working out.
It was great lifting music and all.
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Deftones music basically is thissong is newish to me.
I put it on a playlist. When we went and saw them, I
knew they were going to play it.I looked at setlist dot FM, I
knew they were going to play it,but I wasn't familiar with it.
It's from the album Diamond Eyes.
This song has a great chorus of screaming.
So the the literally the the in the chorus is he screams guns,
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razors, knives, then he says fuck with me, guns, razors and
then he screams knives and then sings woo and and it's
borderline Ric Flair and he eclipse volume wise and it's
such a high pitch. It's just imagine yourself
lifting and you're like, guns, razors, knives, right?
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Even if you're a pacifist. And then he does the woo.
I can just see dropping the fucking weights and walking
away. Right?
Yeah. It's hard not to get really
hyped when listening to this song.
I. Have to check it out.
Yeah, I I keep trying Deftones and I can't.
I don't know what it. Is I get it?
I get it. His voice is very particular.
Yeah. Even the singing voice is very
particular. I don't know, maybe this is the
entry. Yeah, maybe.
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All right, there's the list. That's it.
That's the, that's the goods, asit were.
That's the equivalent of the milk being in the back of the
store. You have to walk through the
store to get to the milk. Wow, that wasn't OK.
Yeah, that was a ride. Sorry, I didn't know.
I know you were talking. About I wasn't sure either.
Oh, Speaking of before we go, this is the thing that pissed me
off tremendously. Oh, that the public needs to
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hear about Chobani yogurt. All right, by the way, the only,
the only podcast, right that will give you Slipknot.
What else have we talked about? Tyler, The Creator and Chobani
yogurt all in one episode. So I'm, I'm assuming we're
talking to a pretty bougie middle class crowd here.
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Probably. You probably have bought the
Chobani Greek yogurt and if you bought it in the four pack, I'm
assuming you have. No, I buy it in the the.
Tubs, the tubs, well, why aren'tyou getting some variety and
flavor? I use it to make.
Dip. But what?
Hold on, what if you just want to have yogurt in the morning
with your? Breakfast.
I don't eat yogurt. OK, so you used yogurt for dip
purposes, but not for breakfast purposes.
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I'm assuming he's the exception to the rule.
But if you're a normal person like me, and you buy your yogurt
to consume in the morning as part of your breakfast, you may
have bought the Chobani. It's these little, I don't know,
fucking 3 oz tubs and they come in 4 packs.
You can get blueberry. I can tell you every fucking
flavor. I bought some of the amazing.
Yeah, blueberry, strawberry. There's the the mix, which is
like the hero's blend. It's good.
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Proceeds go to some veteran fun.Yeah.
And there's a pineapple, a Peach, whatever.
OK, the fucking packaging. It's four of these tubs and it's
like a cardboard sleeve around it.
Yes, and the tops of the yogurtsthey'll say that the the
diameter of the tub is 4 inches.The sleeve is 3.99.
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Okay, so the the tub sticks out this this much.
So every fucking time you try tohandle it, one of the fucking
yogurts falls out every time. And tell me if you have it.
If you have it, I challenge you to all out life.
I challenge you go to the store.I'll even reimburse you.
(45:25):
Send the receipt to info@extendedplay.com, buy a
four pack of this fucking Chobani yogurt and just try to
get it home and put it in your fridge without one of them
falling out onto the fucking floor of your garage.
Why? Why did you decide it this way?
It's a packaging issue, obviously.
Well, what I'm why I say specifically that is because I
buy yogurt for my daughter Yogurt.
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They're not yogurt squeezies. They're yogurt smoothies.
OK, they're a Stony field organic, whatever.
They're they're they're at everyevery grocery store, at least
around here, the exact same thing happens.
They all they it just falls out.There's AI mean.
That's just such a fucking frustrating experience.
I see it. Who?
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What focus group did you have and go OK here's the thing sell
them for don't put it in a box. Whatever you do, do not contain
these 4 jars of yogurt. Have it be open on the sides and
then only the faintest of resistance to have it falling
out. It's.
So weird. Why so weird?
God damn it, Chobani, get it together.
All right with that, yeah, we bid you with you, and we will
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see you next week with more music, more goodness.
Not any fucking songs thanks to Spotify, but we'll hit you with
all the goodness. Yeah, and maybe we'll give you
our versions and we'll do another, right?
Like maybe we'll maybe we'll, we'll learn some instruments.
You're looking at the next Pentatonix right here.
You're going to form our own Acapola group.
Yeah. God, I I fucking hate
Pentatonix. Sorry, it's a whole other
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conversation. Yes, it is.
We need to get into that. All right, that's it for this
week, folks. We'll see you next week.
Take care. See ya.
This week we're going to talk about Igor from Tyler, The
Creator songs that you like to work out too.
And as always, your extended playlist right here, right now,
an extended. Play it's extended play,
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renewing your passion 5 songs ata time.
I'm E. I'm Tank, and the more intrepid
viewers and listeners might havenoticed that theme song.
It was a little different this week.
Yeah, it was an original. Well, kind of an original, was
it? Covered.
No, it's an original. It's a interpolation or whatever
people like to call it. The reason why that is it's.
We probably could have gotten away with the normal one, but we
are in the midst of copyright hell because God forbid, you
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know, I don't know about you guys out there.
Life's not getting any easier. No, no, I mean, we're getting
old. That's one thing.
Oh yeah. But secondly, it's like, can
there be 1 fucking thing that billionaires don't take away
from us Seriously. Right.
It's like you like you don't have enough.
Yeah. So all we wanted to do, yeah, on
our little show here that occasionally 3 to 4 people
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watch, all right, is give you little snippets of songs that
you could go, oh, hey, that sounds cool.
I see what you guys are talking about.
Yeah, I'm going to add that to alist I'm going to go get.
I'm going to listen to it later,but thanks for giving me a
little clip. Well, apparently we can't
fucking do that. Yeah.
You know why? Fucking Spotify.
Fucking Spotify. Yeah, OK, YouTube's been really
nice. They let us know when we're
when, when they catch something.And then they say, well, you
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know, you shouldn't be using that.
But it's only, we're going to only going to block it in Russia
and Belarus. Spotify is just put the clamps
down. And so anyway, going forward,
you're not going to hear clips for now anyway, because we feel
really bad. We actually do.
We feel really bad for our loyallisteners, people that were
there before the video version of the show who could listen to
every episode. Now it's getting blocked on all
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the podcasting platforms. Which is such a chicken shit
move because so a little, I mean, a little behind the
curtain, you might already know.But like, so there's something
called fair use, which in theoryshould allow people for the uses
of criticism, satire to play a little bit of the song.
And that's why we would keep theclips relatively short.
So YouTube does what makes totalsense and what you think
everyone should do, which is to say, hey, we noticed you used
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something that someone has a copyright to.
No harm, no foul. But if there's any money to be
made, they're going to get it right.
Which is fair. Yeah.
But Spotify bitches are just like, you know what?
No. And then they have the balls
though. This is The funny thing.
And this is the state of the late stage capitalism that we're
living in to give you the illusion of choice or or I'm
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looking for where the. There you go.
OK, yeah. To say, hey, by the way, we got
a problem. Why did you use that?
And you go, hey, well, fair use.It's music criticism.
They go, OK, thanks. And then they just fucking put
it in a corner. And then a machine like a week
later goes, we looked at it. No, you didn't.
No, you didn't. And we determined no, fuck you
and the entire episode. So basically, if we try to
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include a 22nd clip of the fucking Ohio Players or
something right then the entire fucking episode is not.
You know what? I should try to put something
that's in the public domain to see if they even, right, the AI
even catches that. Like, I'll put in the happy
birthday song, right? Which we know is in the public
domain. I got a big hair, right?
That's fine. Yeah.
It's super fucking frustrating for us, like on the on the back
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end of it. And.
But moreover, for you, the wholeidea of the show is to help you
renew your passion for music. And we thought part of that
would be to like, I don't know, play some fucking music, you
know? But I guess if our Lord and
Savior Rick Beato can't get awaywith it, then we really can't
get away with it. I mean, who the fuck are we,
right? The Otto can't and it's just,
it's madding because all it would do in theory is drive you
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to purchase or stream more music.
Yes, from their platform exactly.
Yeah, Yeah. So.
Anyway, they can fuck off, honestly.
Yeah, honestly. You can't just let us have
music. I know.
Can all the billionaires and soon to be fucking trillionaires
get together and go, hey guys, we've get all the pussy, all the
yachts, all the drugs, all the power.
Can we let them stream the fucking songs?
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Can we do that and then some fucking 97 year old old fucking
crypt keeper pops over the back?No, we cannot because my sexual
gratification comes from denyinghappiness to other people.
And you know that's what it is. People.
They've got enough money, they get off, probably literally on
you not being able to do anything you enjoy.
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They it is not for the love of of the music and the protection
of the arts. Streaming wouldn't exist if they
had the right amount of respect for the arts.
This whole separate conversationright?
All the guilt I feel about subscribing to the streaming
service with all the terrible shit they do, not only as far as
how much they pay the artist, but just what they're investing
my money in. Yeah.
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It's just I think things are going to have to change and they
will change, will change eventually, I think.
But going forward, folks, if you've missed the last few
episodes because they've been blocked, head over to YouTube.
I'm not recutting them, probablyto take out the music.
It's too much work for the threepeople that are watching.
Thank you, Frank, RJ and let's say Biff, Stephanie.
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A little bit of Rita yeah but yeah so we're hoping and we
talked about this the other day in a believe it or not even more
animated conversation yes that just like streaming was kind of
didn't make any sense whether it's they've reached the perfect
solution or not there's at leasta solution that makes some sense
yes right 'cause maybe title pays more fairly whatever
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they're still working it out this whole thing about music
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The flying ointment here is podcasts are usually free right?
True. So it's a free product that
contains a paid product, which to them the streaming music is a
paid product. They haven't figured out how
yet. My guess is the way it goes is
either the creators pay a small fee to license the music or you
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unadulterated because they can listen to the whole fucking
song, right? Whatever.
We're hoping this is just temporary and by the time we
start our next season or next year, whatever, we have songs
back in there. But for now, we're going to have
to take them out, and you're going to have to listen to our
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Like, yeah, we talked about it like we're going to up have to
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What time signature, signature it's in.
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But we should get into it. Yeah, if you're joining us for
the first time, sorry about all that.
What we do here is we a bitch, and we do bitch a lot, but we
also review albums, either a current, a crate or a classic
album. We do a top ten countdown of
something or other, something fun usually.
And then we give you with no music now, with no music.
And then we give you a playlist of five songs to renew your
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passion. So which you should?
I mean, he will. He will link it up.
Yeah. So now more than ever, please
click on the playlist. Yeah.
Just listen to five new songs because, you know, I'll tell you
why. Why we're still doing this.
Yeah, it's not just the money and the bitches.
Which are plentiful. Which are substantial.
It's because the by, by having to do this, we are constantly
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exposed to new music and we really are putting some thought
into like, but you know, hey, people, here's some.
It's not always new. It could be stuff that it's
like, yeah, you knew that song 20 years ago, You haven't
listened to it since. And we're saying, hey, pop it
in. Yeah, it's worth another listen.
Absolutely. And, and always one song, at
least one song in the playlist is a song from the album.
We review that episode. And in this instance, the album
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we are reviewing is Igor by Tyler, The Creator.
The reason why we're reviewing this random 2019 Tyler album, I
think there's been five since then, is because we're not all
that familiar with Tyler, The Creator.
No, and he's it's not even a renaissance.
I think he's still continually reaching new heights, right?
He's still he's still on the ascent of his career.
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And I have mixed feelings about Teller the creator as an artist,
not so much about is he a good artist?
It's a definite yes. It's is he as good as
advertised? Because I think, I think that
he's become in some ways a critical darling that I can do
no wrong. And there are times that I, I'm
skeptical, which is kind of my natural role anyway.
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Yeah, for sure, for sure. But we, you know, Chromocopia of
course, is the newest. Yes, no, there's another one
after. That really don't.
Break the glass, I think. It's Oh, that's true, but that
was kind of a. Yes, I think be sorry.
Much like yeah, is it really a blah blah blah.
Good point though, But no. So we don't have much before
that at all and we decided to pick Could've been Igor,
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could've been flower boy. There's really Igor.
Flower boy I think are 1A and 1B.
Are they amongst fans for like, what is his best?
Album OK, so I didn't look that up.
You looked that up, I think ahead of time.
That's why we picked Igor. I'm glad you did because
multiple times, and we'll get tothis when we start talking about
the album I wrote down. Did we choose the wrong album?
I think we did OK. My second note here is it's
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almost more R&B and rap than rap, and I don't like R&B, so
this tempers my excitement for what, this album 100?
Percent. I wrote down the almost word for
word the exact same note. So like, OK, so so we'll, we'll
start there. Tyler, the Creator.
If someone is not familiar, they've probably heard the name.
What is he? OK, well, that's a good, that's
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a good question. He's many things, right?
He contains multitudes. He does so the the the first
layer. The obvious would be like he is
a hip hop artist, but then another layer deeper is not
quite and it's more avant-garde.Yes, and it he's made his own
lane really. He's a genre of 1 essentially.
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I mean he's it is for sure hip hop, but it is also, and this
album in particular, it is also R&B.
Right. So this one was definitely a bit
of a detour into more R&B territory.
So I realized I actually made a lot of notes, and then in the
time until we recorded, I had time to listen to other stuff.
I'm like, no, those concerns or points are kind of moot because
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it's unique to this album. OK, no, the one, the one, the
one that the way that I I like to have a snappy summary.
He does, I do, But I I from thisalbum, at least I say I feel
like he's created his own lane between R&B and hip hop, like a
new non Nazi Kanye West. Sure, only slightly less
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talented. Well, essentially, I think so.
This won best rap album, the Grammy that year.
OK. And then Tyler said something I
think in the acceptance speech, essentially, like I don't like,
like this is really isn't a rap album.
And I don't like that anytime someone that looks like me and
kind of raps is put into the rapcategory, basically calling him,
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calling out, being racist. If it's not, I'm sure it's a I'm
positive it's at least a little racist to do that.
But I think moreover, it's reductive to the whole notion of
genres is reductive anyway, right?
Like it's, it's only useful if you know you like a certain kind
of music and it's a shortcut foryou to go into.
It's the only time it's really useful.
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But since then there is a rap category.
There is a Grammy now for like Best.
What's it called? Rap, Rap slash singing album.
I think it's a direct result of this album, which is great.
That makes way more sense to me because there is tons of that,
right? Half of the rappers that we
really don't connect with are doing this sing rap thing.
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Heavily auto tuned, right? Yeah.
Comes from comes from Kanye, essentially.
He's started it. All I mean, not to defend the
Grammys, but like when an artistgoes in a slightly different
direction for an album, yeah, you can't expect everyone to
reclassify you right? Wait, there's a certain
convenience to it of like, look,you're a hip hop artist
normally. Yeah, you made a good album.
We don't know where else to. Put you sure?
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What did they do with Beyoncé though?
With It's Like Country. It was country, but but that's a
that was what, you know, six years later, yes, and right.
B, there was there's no subtlety.
And, and plus, Beyoncé is not anything in the sense of she's
a, she's a, she's a pop artist. She again transcends genre.
She's a pop artist, yeah. So a pop artist can say I'm
doing a blank album and it's easy to reclassify them.
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That's true. A hip hop artist can't just say
I'm metal now. Unless you're Ice T, that's your
Ice T with Bodyguard, who is legit by the way.
So like from a metal standpoint?It's actually good.
It was not well, I mean. The songs are hit or miss, but
his being a metal singer is not a gimmick.
Oh, he really digs. It I mean it's been 30 fucking
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years and more he's still doing it.
So like his his love of like oldSlayer and stuff and like it's
real. That's all.
I like the music, but it's he's never been faking it.
Sure. Yeah.
So anyway, back to Igor, you know that as did that, that sort
of discovery is going to shade our conversation a little bit.
So be prepared for that. So again, first, the only album
we've listened to all the way through from Tyler, the Creator,
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we may have picked the wrong one.
We both are on record as saying we don't really enjoy R&B, so we
were already predisposed to not liking this a whole lot.
Right. And when you know, I can't help
myself and maybe you do the samething to some extent, you must
that when you listen to this in Spotify, certainly on a desktop
like I do you, you see the play count of all the songs.
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Oh, I did. So I don't look at that.
Oh, really? Yeah.
OK, so that's that definitely. Oh, interesting.
I should probably stop doing that, but I'm always on the
computer when I do it. Yeah, sure.
But. And if anyone listens to Spotify
on your laptop, you know what I'm talking about.
But like you, because I always have to have Spotify UI by the
way, I just want to see the fucking album and sometimes I
feel like I need to click 17 times to get back to the fucking
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album. I don't.
I don't need to see the bio for the 20th time.
They don't. They don't by the way, I mean,
again, digression, They don't want you to listen to albums.
That's they don't. They want you to listen to their
mixes that they make where payola is involved, right?
Where record companies are paying to get their artists or
their AI artists that somebody in a fucking office, Spotify
office in Sweden has made-up andmade-up fake names anyway and go
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on and on. But yeah, they don't, they don't
make it easy to see the album art to, to, to play the whole
album to even if you're on a song, let's say you're in a
playlist, a random playlist, Spotify playlist and you see a
song and you're listening to a song.
You're like, this fucking rocks.I'm going to press the three
dots and see get to the album. Yep.
View album is so far down the menu in the UX it's crazy.
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And you know, by the way, shout out to if anyone who is involved
in the user interface for automobile sees this.
Oh, sure. All I want is if if I'm in
shuffle mode, OK, and I get to acertain song, give me a button
that says go to this album or shuffle this album.
Think about it. Yeah, you're on shuffle.
It's like, oh, I like this song.I want to hear songs from this
album. Yes.
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Can't do it. That's weird.
Yeah, anyway, so when you look at the album in that lineup, it
has plays and you could see these gigantic discrepancies
between songs, especially in like a greatest hits or
something. Or if it's like an old classic
album with one super hit, you'llsee like 1 billion streams and
then the one underneath it has like 74,000.
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But it can't help but pre dispose your attitude towards
the songs because it's like, OK,this is the popular one.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So on this film, it's
Earthquake. Yeah.
Second. Well, the first real track,
right? Not Earthquake.
Earthquake with an F, which I should take that.
I know I like it too. Far and away the most streamed
song. I don't like it at all.
And I don't even understand why it was.
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I mean, it's it's quirky. Everything Tyler does is quirky
and different. Yes.
But it I just didn't think it was good.
I wrote down when is he going torap?
Hey Blackie, that's not what? What are you going to do?
The rapid thing I pay you to do?Again, this is with the
preconceived notion that this was a hip hop album.
It is not. I mean hip hop, OK, hip hop's
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the culture then yes, absolutely.
But and then there's someone else rap slurring about who is
this person rap slurring in the middle?
Is it Ty? So that was also confusing to me
because there's a bunch of guestspots on the album.
I identified maybe one because Tyler does this thing where he
sings, he raps, he pitches up his vocals, he pitches down his
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vocals, he adds a bunch of distortion onto it.
I never know. It's if it's actually him, It's
cool. Actually, I really, I do
appreciate that. I've I've said that about other
artists who do this like mix it up, like the Rosalia album.
Her voice sounds different trackto track to track.
I think that's really cool, but not being familiar with his
flow, I guess I'm like, who is this now?
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Oh I guess and I look back afterI read and that's Playboy Cardi
in the first one which I alreadywas predisposed to.
Not like Playboy Cardi but agreed.
Earthquake not good. I said is the whole I've been
praying the whole album isn't like this.
If it's not like this, this is aweird choice for the first
track. Right.
And it turns out the album kind of was like that.
It was. It was.
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And the The funny thing is, is you know, we we do this
discreetly and then we compare notes after and both of us
picked what's good. As I mean, my note is it's the
first songs I loved on my first listen and which it's the ninth
track. It's the ninth track.
So like you're, you're slogging through some R&B now again it So
my note with regards to what's good is that I didn't really
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love a song until then. But even until then, I was
curious enough to enjoy the listening.
Yeah. That's fair.
It was like it was novel, right?Like it was 8 songs that
preceded that where it was like,I don't really like this but
it's something. Yeah, it's different.
So mine was a little bit different when I got to 9 and I
was like hopeful, like maybe there's more of this.
I don't know why I thought that.And then immediately with gone
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gone slash, thank you. The next track I was
immediately, now he's like angry.
Now I'm in like God damn it, I don't want.
And I literally wrote no thank you.
And the song's called thank you,make it stop.
So go along. It's, it's just this isn't a
case where it might be good, butit is not for me.
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It's not for. Us and my last note is that some
of the songs do feel like good concepts that were stretched too
long. Well, the whole thing we should
say is a concept album, a loose concept album.
Falling in love, falling out of love and then essentially trying
to get come to grips with it but.
Then, but you might have a 5 minute track that really could
have been 3 minutes. Oh, absolutely.
Because that's what I think why it feels like a drag so much is
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it's like, yes, that is a cleverhook or a clever sample or, but
it's not 6 minutes. So I wrote that down over and
over again that this sounded like an album made for TikTok in
that it's all hook like there are.
So there are three or four hooksin every song.
That's impressive. I can't write a pop hook like as
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a feat, as a artistic expression.
That's awesome. You can see why people like
Tyler, but I couldn't. I say this a lot about how I
can't find a footing or I can't find anything to grab onto when
I do need, from time to time, a traditional verse, chorus, verse
structure. And it was so hard to find that
that he would spend long portions of the track just with
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this R&B hook sometimes. Then there'd be a hard
transition to a different beat entirely.
Verses would start and then justkind of meander.
Some would be twice as long as others.
The lack of structure seems verythis.
So I wrote down, this makes me feel old and I haven't felt old
listening to music in a long time.
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Like it made me feel like this is not like this is what younger
people want. They want more ear candy,
immediate gratification, something they can put behind
them on TikTok and. It's catchy and they'll get
views. That's what this felt like to
me. Yeah, and it probably is what it
was maybe right. I mean, because not everything
is for us. Right again, which is fine and
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This is why we do this. So which?
So who is it for? Right.
So our ratings. Yeah.
See that segue right there? Yeah.
Well done. Thank you.
Our ratings are not one through 10.
Not telling if it's a good or a bad album because by and large,
we think these are good albums, including this one.
But we have a recommendation of should everyone listen to it,
fans of the genre, fans of the artist, or should no one?
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Because it's absolute ass. Yeah, it's ass for this one, I
think. Fans of the genre, no.
Whether that genre is hip hop orR&B, More hip hop than R and BI
guess, but sure. Yeah, give it a listen.
And it some of those hooks, someof the songs might be
worthwhile. Yeah.
I just don't think that if you're not already sort of
adjacent to this, you're not going to like it.
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OK, so I let me pause at this though, because I had this
thought. I you can make an argument that
this is for everyone in that I thought like if you if you think
you don't like hip hop, if you are like, and I'm talking like
you are older than us, you're like hip hop is a thing I've
never understood, right. If you tried this, you it could
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potentially be a gateway to hip hop.
Maybe I don't know, because I'm either there it's for everyone
that way or I'm on the completely other end.
I don't I actually don't think anyone needs to listen to this.
I don't I don't know that that'snecessarily true.
I'm a little bit vexed by this. I don't ever want to listen to
it again. I will never listen to it again.
It's because it's so not for me but.
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But but could it be a gateway drug to hip hop for people that
are more used to R&B maybe? Maybe right, Maybe.
Like, yes, it could be a Hail Mary that a a 60 year old person
who likes, you know, Al Green and it's like, OK, so this is
current R&B, which it's not necessarily, but it could be a
sneaky way to get them to listento hip.
Hop Sure, sure, it could be. Yeah, that makes sense to me.
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So in certain use cases, yes, right.
But yeah, but otherwise, like I said, personally, I don't need
to listen to it again. Do you need?
Do you, the extended family needto listen to it?
If you like hip hop, give it a shot.
But I honestly, from what I fromthe singles that I do know from
Flower Boy and I'm sure we'll give that a listen sooner or
later. Yeah.
Yeah. We should probably want to go
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that route and save this one forlater in your journey.
Yeah. No, that makes sense to me.
What did you, what do you think of Igor?
Do you have another album that we should have started with?
I'm sure you do. We're going to get a lot of
that, which is great. We love that.
Let us know what we missed. We already we admitted it's not
for us, but what would be for usif you know us.
I mean, we got a pistol and fistright here.
That should give you a pretty big hint, a big a pretty big
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hint of what we're into. Please let us know in the
comments. We'd really appreciate it.
All right, and check your watch 'cause now it's time for the EP
10. It is.
It is. Wow.
What are the odds? That worked out nicely.
Today's episode, we are going todo 10 songs to work out to.
Yeah. And you're looking at us and
you're thinking. You're thinking, do you guys not
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listen to music? I mean, that's one of the first
things I wrote down. I think this is a great topic.
We decided these topics, right? If you'd like to give us a topic
for an EP10, please let us know in the comments.
But Tank actually came out with this.
I think it's a great topic. I have not been in a gym in 13
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years. Yeah, I mean.
I have like within the past few months, but not as much as yeah
it should be. So it's a big asterisk on this,
right? Like.
But when we do. It ain't happening, folks.
Well, but when we do this is what would be on the the MP3
player because that's what we were listening to last time we
were in the gym, 100. Percent.
That's what I had to think aboutwas what MP plus?
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On my I'm a yellow Rio MP3 player that's 128 megabytes.
And I was like, I remember sitting there agonizing.
Which 30 songs am I going to bring to the gym?
Yeah, sure. Yeah, I had an iPod classic by
the time I was actually working out regularly, but I totally
had. I had to do it.
You have to do it on your PC, right?
Go on your PC. Connect it with a mini USB.
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And make the playlist and. Import it.
And then I got the green one that was 256.
I was fucking life. Changing, but it was yeah, 256.
Wow. Anyway, okay.
All right, so I will kick it offwith the first song that I
would. And I and I used to do a fair
amount of weight lifting. You did?
I don't anymore. Yeah, but I did.
Which obviously shades the type of music.
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Oh, sure. Sure.
So you need maximum anger? I think so.
My first choice is from a band called Pantera.
I've heard of them. And it is called regular people,
parentheses, conceit. This is one of those songs that
amongst people who are, you know, somewhat fans of metal or
know of Pantera, you know the song you would never know.
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This was the name of the song. Oh, for sure, for sure.
It's the one where the chorus says most regular people would
say it's hard. And any streetwise son of a
bitch knows. Don't fuck with this.
Yeah, and they think maybe the song is called Don't Fuck With
This or something. It should be.
It should be. That's a great.
Jesus, talk about a missed opportunity.
But yeah, that song goes hard. It does.
It does. And you do not want to fuck with
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this, no or that. Or any or any of it?
Any of it. Yeah, Great, great.
Song to work out too. Oh, absolutely.
I put it on in the car earlier today to remind myself what it
was like. It is way deep in the track
list. What?
That album, Vulgar Display Poweris packed, dude, it's crazy.
I mean, Hollow was the last song.
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Jeez. Yeah.
Pretty impressive, yeah. Also, I was just thinking, like,
man, they did. They stand out for a number of
reasons, not least of which incredible riffs.
Like, unparalleled riffs, like, great, just artistry overall,
like drumming, bass. But nobody else at that time was
singing like Phil Anselmo was, really.
And now hundreds and hundreds ofprobably thousands of bands do,
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right? You know, it was they were, I
mean they kind of not flashed inthe pan.
They had two, you know, yes, Vulgar Display and Cowboys from
Hell, yes, far beyond driven. And then it was a pretty steep
drop. Yes.
But yeah, man, for a moment in time there it was.
Good stuff. I can I agree great workout
song. So as I mentioned a little bit
ago, these songs are pretty old because it's been a long time
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since I worked out bulls on parade by Rage Against the
machine. Any Rage Against the machine
probably full album is really good.
This one in particular, there's not a lot of lulls.
There is the quiet loud thing right?
But sometimes in one of the bestthings about Rage is their
ability within a song to be likevery groovy and funk funky like
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like like a funk song and then be super heavy, right?
This song is mostly heavy. Favorite part at the end is when
they break. When everything drops, you
listen to the weird sort of scratching guitar solo.
Everything drops except for the guitar.
Doing the wow wow waka wow wow waka waka waka.
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That's your job. You're.
Welcome. That's what we're reduced to now
for music samples. But they do that and then, you
know, Zach says come with it nowand then they get back and then
they add the drums and then things start swelling.
And then I really love in songs when they do, when you have a
drum beat throughout and then like the third or fourth time
they add something to it and they add these crashing cymbals
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to the end at the very end. It's just you cannot help but be
fired up at the end of that songin particular, the video I
remember that's when they're showing lots of video, almost
all of it rock Videos at the time were like fake studio
performances or live performances.
All rage ones were like, you know, facts about the how the
government's right out to get you.
Like footage of monks on fire pretty much all the time.
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Right. But at the very end they're
showing the crowd, and I don't know where it is, but you're
seeing like one of these huge 75,000 people crowds moving in
waves, just jumping up and down.Really wish we could have saw
them. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, anyway. Yeah, great song to work out to.
Awesome. Next up for me, slightly
different direction is from the roots and the song is called the
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fire. This one is more of a cardio
song. OK, it's a it's up tempo.
It's very much AI don't know aspirational confirmation kind
of and the great song. I mean, like a lot of the roots
songs, especially at this point in time and and their
discography, but yeah, gets me fired up.
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It's there's actually. And and I use it a lot for not
just the workout stuff, but sometimes some anxiety getting
past anxiety. Oh sure, yeah, I used it to get
myself fired up like a little pep.
Talk. Yeah, exactly.
Yeah. When I I'd never heard it
before. Like I I had stopped listening
to the Roots at this point. I don't, I don't know why I was
listening to something else or got distracted.
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It sounded to me like it was made to be like the cutaway.
I think they call him a Stinger at an NBA game.
Yeah. Like you're going to commercial.
Because it is. It's so positive.
I'm this, I'm this. I can do this, right?
Yeah. I really dug it.
Yeah. And yeah.
And there's like the one line, like on the definition of
tragedy turned triumph. Yes, yes.
Exactly right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It hits hard. Yeah, nice, nice choice.
My next choice is a song I have not worked out to actually so,
but I think it would if I did work out, this would be great.
It's don't play all caps by turnstile.
I mean it's in all caps actually.
All their songs are in on this album are in all caps I think.
All of them in all. Of them in all albums?
Yep, it's kind of their thing. Or maybe.
It's just they have one keyboardfor the band and caps lock is
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stuck like fuck it just go with it.
It'd be amazing, be amazing. This starts, this starts the
sort of theme in my songs that Ipicked in that there are
different sort of movements in agiven song where it's it's like
3-2 or three songs in one, whichI really like because I did
remember that, you know, you do have cooldowns and you do have
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moments where you're in between,in between sets and you don't
necessarily need to be super hard.
Maybe sometimes you do. They would like to get pumped up
about the next set. But I like to be super hard.
I know you do like to be super hard.
Super hard right now. Great.
Fantastic. Yeah, There's like samba in it,
but then it turns to like super heavy rock at the end.
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I really like it. Yeah.
Any shouts? There's also the shouting.
That's becomes a theme here too,is a lot of people yelling, a
lot of shouting, a lot of shouting.
All right, Next up for me, I'm gonna go with I'll go with her
on the jewels. So again, kind of whereas the
fire was really more of a cardiosong, kind of smooth.
And the ground below is it's grittier, grimier, crunchier,
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drums hit hard and just just a more of a staccato.
But it definitely has this charging like if you're going
after something. Absolutely.
And one of my favorite RTJ songs.
Not RTH. I sent him a text earlier with
RTH. I'm like, where the hell are
they? No, but it's definitely if I had
to pick the one RTJ song to playat the gym and get pumped up
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too. It's just, I don't know, it's
just got a good vibe to get you.I don't know, fuck really.
That whole album for sure. RTJ 4 is just feels.
Aggressive. It is very aggressive.
So one of the things I thought about when we reviewed ASOP Rock
was like, that is the one thing that's kind of missing from ASOP
rock. That's true, right?
Is that hard edge that's in a lot of other hip hop.
Not that I don't appreciate it, but yeah, you're right.
This album is, I mean, my next choice is something completely
(31:44):
different. It is a song called Wasted Days
by Cloud Nothings. I played Cloud Nothings on this
before. You didn't care for it all that
much, which I think is fine. It's punk rock, really.
But like, not punk rock. Like, I don't know, I feel like
you say punk rock. You immediately think like, I
don't know, Sex Pistols. What do you think?
Remotes? It's not like that.
So it's more like, I don't know,post rock anyway, garage rock,
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something like that. It's a very long song.
This again, this is becoming a theme.
The song is very long and has multiple movements and there is
a moment in the song where thereis a lot of fast, slow and
build. And there is a point where he
gets the chorus is essentially one phrase, which is I thought I
would be more than this. And that's a heavy line.
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I got goose gobumps saying that right, 'cause like, if you're
and if you're working out right,like you are in the improvement
game, right, then that is something to get you kind of
like be be a little reflective, but also think, well, I can be
more than this. And you and by and, you know,
grab the bench press and do yourthing.
But and then by the end he's screaming it right.
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Like as a release, like I like angry about it.
And I think that's a perfect time to really get into a nice
That's the peak of a workout. The next one I'm gonna go with
is the probably the most predictable, but it fits.
It's Saint Anger by Metallica. I mean Saint Anger as an album.
Yeah, we've all heard the jokes.Yes, I know about the snare
sound, but as a the the album was, regardless of what you
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think of it, as a standalone exercise.
It was a necessary step for the band to stay together.
Very much a cathartic exercise for the band.
And if you're in the right headspace, it hits perfect
because all that just fucked up in this that they were feeling
and going through it you. It does translate, but you have
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to be willing to receive it right?
Sure, if you are in an angry place it just hits and no, it
the song's too fucking. Long.
It's long. It doesn't need to be 7 1/2 or 8
minutes, whatever it is that's really everything Metallica
sense fucking the black album. You could say the same thing as
like could've cut 2030% off editcome on.
But even then ended live it is Iwould highly recommend go find a
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live version because the snare is fixed.
OK, they do trim it up. They add a guitar solo.
OK, yeah. But I mean, there's, you know,
again, some of the stuff and a lot of the stuff on Saint Anger
and some other songs that the James Isms.
It's it's easy to write it off as corny, but sometimes corny is
true. You know, just like love songs,
(34:19):
right, Where it's in a love songwhere it's like, you know, oh, I
didn't know who I was till I metyou.
Whatever. You fucking roll your eyes.
But when you're really in love, that's how you feel.
Totally kind of the same thing with Saint Anger.
A lot of the stuff, some of these smarmy fucking critics are
like, oh, geez, that's corny. I go, yeah.
But if you're truly furious, like, you know, like madly in
anger with you, right? Play on words.
(34:40):
OK, But if you really are feel that way, like those words
resonate for sure. So yeah, when I'm really in a
place to fucking just burn off bad energy, that helps me do it.
Because of course, like does he say fuck it all?
Is that what he says over there?Fuck it all and fucking no
regrets? Like, you know, so like turn the
lights on these dark sets. So it's a reference to Damage
(35:02):
Incorporated. Perfect.
I love with the fuck it all fucking because he says first of
all, he says fuck it all, no regrets.
And the next one he does fuck itall.
Fucking no regrets. There's a I'll see if I can find
it. There's a social media clip of a
guy adding the adding the word fucking to a bunch of yeah
songs. But he adds it like that in a
weird place where he's like, like he sings like a fucking sky
(35:26):
rockets, yes. I have seen that so good.
That's what it. Feels like to be a little bit.
The one cat, the one other footnote I would say is the the
video helps this song. Oh, OK.
So the video was shot at San Quentin prison and like the
beginning is like them signing awaiver like if you get taken
hostage. It's not.
Our problem. But they perform it in front of
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the prisoners and it's interspersed with even, I'll say
kind of hokey cheesy background stories of the prisoners.
But but the again, the energy right of the people in prison
energy came out the wrong way. It actually helps and it's 5 1/2
minutes long. So oh, nice, nice edit job.
Oh, OK. Yeah, excellent.
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My second to last choice is a song that I mentioned on this
podcast numerous times. It's called Brought to the Water
by Death Heaven. Again, long song.
I think it's 9 plus minutes long.
Yeah, it's the first song on thealbum New Bermuda, which is
right behind me again, my mic isin the way.
This was the the this album was a follow up to Sunbather, which
(36:31):
was their breakout album and they, I think they this album is
very dark intentionally. Like even the imagery is really
dark and super heavy. It's incredibly heavy and heavy.
Music's good for workouts and none of that.
I don't know what the fuck he's saying.
You can't understand any of it. But what I do like about this,
(36:51):
they're perfect. They're the perfect heavy band
for me. And this is actually going to
play into what we talk about next with the next band you're
going to say is I think is that their lyrics aren't bullshit.
Devil, do you know what I mean? They're not black.
Like they're not about goblins and fucking and shit like that.
It's actually basically spoken word poetry.
(37:11):
And if I I can put the lyrics a link to the lyrics below or
something like that, They're these lyrics are beautiful and
he's going through something andhe's having visions and it's
like word painting. But if you're screaming, you
don't need to rhyme, right? So you have a lot more freedom.
So the lyrics are really beautiful, but the song is
incredibly aggressive and great to work out too.
Again, if I worked out. If you worked out, yeah, that's
(37:33):
the asterisk on all this. So now we are into the extended
playlist portion of the show. Yes, 'cause we are not done with
the EP 10. But that's because two of these
songs are on your five song playlist.
That will renew your passion. So again, I, we cannot stress
this enough, find the link to the playlist.
If if we ask for nothing else for this whole experience,
(37:56):
listen to the five goddamn songs.
Absolutely. OK.
You're going to like a couple ofthem or a few of them.
You're going to listen to a new album if you stick with it long
enough, Yeah. You're going to find a whole lot
of music that either you forgot you loved or that you never knew
about. Yep.
I'll also make a playlist of theworkout songs because I think
that would be super helpful. Exactly that's.
Actually, that's a useful one. Yeah.
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So my final EP10 song, which is on the playlist, is a song by
Slipknot, which I'm assuming you're referring to as he's
referring to called All Out Life.
I mean, it's kind of garden variety.
Slipknot in the sense that yes, it's aggressive.
You know, a lot of bro macho. Yeah, lyrically, it's right,
Yeah. So when what?
What are you thinking of? When you think of SO.
(38:39):
So Slipknot is a is a huge blindspot for me because I couldn't
get past the imagery. Yes, and I oh, the masks and
everything. The masks.
It's actually a real problem. I think it's very triggering for
me. I don't know.
I don't. I don't have a clown thing.
Yeah, it's pretty freaky though.I don't like it.
Yeah, I don't like it one bit. No, thank you.
Pass. So.
And that imagery is on the albumcovers as well.
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So I think it was a barrier to entry.
I was also, I think when Slipknot started to become big,
I was probably in my like, my like, indie rock twee, like, you
know what I mean? Like very gentle, right?
Not offensive background music. I think I was in that phase when
they were starting to come out. So I wasn't even listening to
this. Kind of music.
Slipknot is they it's heavy, it's fast, but they've really
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they're really good at crafting songs.
Right, I like this. I listen to it.
So whenever you get people of metal, the same thing Metallica
faces, they're they're a heavier, fast, faster version of
Metallica in the sense that theymake good songs.
But people true metalheads, theyjust can't deal with any kind of
rhythm or song craft. They're fucking sell outs.
(39:41):
No, they're not. They just know how to write a
song. Whereas fucking Cattle Mutilator
or whatever the fuck your favorite, they can't write good
songs. Right.
Yeah, it's a 10 minute meandering movie soundtrack
with. But Corey Taylor, amazing
vocalist, so everything he singsand screams, he's a very good
screamer, has a very good fuck you edge to it.
But yeah, just a great. You know, again, angry.
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You know, let's get corny. Like I challenge you to all out
life. Like what does that even mean?
Yeah. Who cares at that point?
Exactly. Like, yeah, I'm not, I'm not
here for the poetry. Interesting side note on this
song, though, is that in the chorus.
So this was a single that came out and then not long after the
album We Are Not Your Kind came out.
OK Good album, by the way. Oh, nice.
OK. In the chorus of this song, they
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say We are not your kind. Oh, it's not on the album
because the drummer left the band.
I could I, I might be fucking this up and, and no one fucking
cares, but I'm pretty sure this was the Weinberg's last.
Not Weinberg. Maybe the guitarist.
(40:50):
Just trust me, someone in the band left the band and they
didn't want to go through the legal headache of having this
song on the album because that person was on this song.
So basically they cut a song thinking it would be the lead
single to the album and then theperson scram.
OK, they can't figure out the writing credit logistics.
Interesting. Fuck it, it's not on the album.
(41:11):
So you have a stand alone singlewith the chorus that says we are
not your kind, but it's not on the album.
We are not. That's very.
Odd. It is OK Oh, that's kind of
cool. Definitely check it out.
It's there's a hole. There's like 5 to 10 Slipknot
songs that are even if you're not a real metal person, it's
just they're just groovy yes, well constructed songs yeah.
I really appreciate he does ridethat line of sing screaming yes.
(41:32):
It is like a lot like Phil Anselmo, but but even more
melodic. Yes, yeah.
Which I I appreciate because. By his I mean Stone Sour was his
first. Ball, right?
It was his first band. Yeah, I.
Didn't know it was Stone Sour first, Slipknot second.
I'm learning so much about Slipknot today.
Yeah, hold on. My last song from the workout
song playlist and my first contribution to the extended
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playlist is a song called RocketSkates by Deftones.
So I actually little trip down memory lane for me when I did
have the iPod and I was actuallyworking out, it was during the
time of Deftones self-titled album.
I think it's their third, fourth, whatever.
And I listened to that album a lot when I was working out.
It was great lifting music and all.
(42:15):
Deftones music basically is thissong is newish to me.
I put it on a playlist. When we went and saw them, I
knew they were going to play it.I looked at setlist dot FM, I
knew they were going to play it,but I wasn't familiar with it.
It's from the album Diamond Eyes.
This song has a great chorus of screaming.
So the the literally the the in the chorus is he screams guns,
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razors, knives, then he says fuck with me, guns, razors and
then he screams knives and then sings woo and and it's
borderline Ric Flair and he eclipse volume wise and it's
such a high pitch. It's just imagine yourself
lifting and you're like, guns, razors, knives, right?
(42:58):
Even if you're a pacifist. And then he does the woo.
I can just see dropping the fucking weights and walking
away. Right?
Yeah. It's hard not to get really
hyped when listening to this song.
I. Have to check it out.
Yeah, I I keep trying Deftones and I can't.
I don't know what it. Is I get it?
I get it. His voice is very particular.
Yeah. Even the singing voice is very
particular. I don't know, maybe this is the
entry. Yeah, maybe.
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All right, there's the list. That's it.
That's the, that's the goods, asit were.
That's the equivalent of the milk being in the back of the
store. You have to walk through the
store to get to the milk. Wow, that wasn't OK.
Yeah, that was a ride. Sorry, I didn't know.
I know you were talking. About I wasn't sure either.
Oh, Speaking of before we go, this is the thing that pissed me
off tremendously. Oh, that the public needs to
(43:41):
hear about Chobani yogurt. All right, by the way, the only,
the only podcast, right that will give you Slipknot.
What else have we talked about? Tyler, The Creator and Chobani
yogurt all in one episode. So I'm, I'm assuming we're
talking to a pretty bougie middle class crowd here.
(44:02):
Probably. You probably have bought the
Chobani Greek yogurt and if you bought it in the four pack, I'm
assuming you have. No, I buy it in the the.
Tubs, the tubs, well, why aren'tyou getting some variety and
flavor? I use it to make.
Dip. But what?
Hold on, what if you just want to have yogurt in the morning
with your? Breakfast.
I don't eat yogurt. OK, so you used yogurt for dip
purposes, but not for breakfast purposes.
(44:23):
I'm assuming he's the exception to the rule.
But if you're a normal person like me, and you buy your yogurt
to consume in the morning as part of your breakfast, you may
have bought the Chobani. It's these little, I don't know,
fucking 3 oz tubs and they come in 4 packs.
You can get blueberry. I can tell you every fucking
flavor. I bought some of the amazing.
Yeah, blueberry, strawberry. There's the the mix, which is
like the hero's blend. It's good.
(44:44):
Proceeds go to some veteran fun.Yeah.
And there's a pineapple, a Peach, whatever.
OK, the fucking packaging. It's four of these tubs and it's
like a cardboard sleeve around it.
Yes, and the tops of the yogurtsthey'll say that the the
diameter of the tub is 4 inches.The sleeve is 3.99.
(45:05):
Okay, so the the tub sticks out this this much.
So every fucking time you try tohandle it, one of the fucking
yogurts falls out every time. And tell me if you have it.
If you have it, I challenge you to all out life.
I challenge you go to the store.I'll even reimburse you.
(45:25):
Send the receipt to info@extendedplay.com, buy a
four pack of this fucking Chobani yogurt and just try to
get it home and put it in your fridge without one of them
falling out onto the fucking floor of your garage.
Why? Why did you decide it this way?
It's a packaging issue, obviously.
Well, what I'm why I say specifically that is because I
buy yogurt for my daughter Yogurt.
(45:47):
They're not yogurt squeezies. They're yogurt smoothies.
OK, they're a Stony field organic, whatever.
They're they're they're at everyevery grocery store, at least
around here, the exact same thing happens.
They all they it just falls out.There's AI mean.
That's just such a fucking frustrating experience.
I see it. Who?
(46:09):
What focus group did you have and go OK here's the thing sell
them for don't put it in a box. Whatever you do, do not contain
these 4 jars of yogurt. Have it be open on the sides and
then only the faintest of resistance to have it falling
out. It's.
So weird. Why so weird?
God damn it, Chobani, get it together.
All right with that, yeah, we bid you with you, and we will
(46:32):
see you next week with more music, more goodness.
Not any fucking songs thanks to Spotify, but we'll hit you with
all the goodness. Yeah, and maybe we'll give you
our versions and we'll do another, right?
Like maybe we'll maybe we'll, we'll learn some instruments.
You're looking at the next Pentatonix right here.
You're going to form our own Acapola group.
Yeah. God, I I fucking hate
Pentatonix. Sorry, it's a whole other
(46:54):
conversation. Yes, it is.
We need to get into that. All right, that's it for this
week, folks. We'll see you next week.
Take care. See ya.
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