June 27, 2025 • 15 mins
On the eve of the release of Turnstile’s latest album, “NEVER ENOUGH,” we went to see a one-night only theater presentation of the visual album. We had a blast! In this episode, our hosts mostly talk about what the visual medium brought to this album, and advocate for these kind of things to happen every week.Did you see the visual album in theaters? What did you think? What did you think of the album? Let us know in the comments.Watch individual videos from the film:“NEVER ENOUGH”“SEEIN’ STARS/BIRDS”“LOOK OUT FOR ME”View previous episodes.Like/follow/subscribe to The Extended Play Podcast.
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Baltimore hardcore band Turnstile came out with a visual
album only in theaters. We went and saw it and we're
going to talk about it today on the Extended Play podcast with
The Intake. That's right, he's E.
I'm Tank. This is a music discussion show
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without the hipster snobbery that all the kids call the
Extended Play podcast. All of them.
All three that watch it. And we're here on our summer
break. We just decided to jump in with
some bonus content because we miss you guys.
We did. And we missed each other.
Let's be honest, we did. In ways that are not family
friendly. No, they're not.
So, Speaking of quasi homosexualactivity, we went to a movie
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together. We did so never enough.
Yeah. The the new album by Turnstile,
Yeah. Which completely off my radar,
to be honest. Yeah, I only knew Turnstile from
basically what he put in front of me, which is DC Area Band.
Yeah, concerts are crazy. People are on stage going
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fucking nuts, right? Someone's going to tear an ACL.
In the band, absolutely. Or hurt someone in the band.
Yeah, so. So he said, hey, they're doing a
visual album. I'm like, why not?
Yeah, just basically our response to just about
everything these days, Like, whynot?
What else are we going to do with our lives and.
The cool thing, it was just playing in theaters only for one
night only, and it was playing locally, so it was easy to get
to. And it was the night before the
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album came out, which is kind ofa cool thing.
It's sort of like a listening party in a way there too.
So us and Ted, one of our closest friends.
Which, to be honest, I mean in Auburn Hills, MI, yeah, was
about 8 more than I expected. Yes.
I mean, cuz really I do they allhave podcasts like you know what
I mean? So I, I get it, Turnstile has
fans, right? But just to go on a was it a
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Thursday night? Yes, at 7:00 PM, yes, right.
Just and I become cynical that no one does anything anymore,
which is ironic coming for me cuz I don't do shit.
But anyway. But there were people there and
it was so jumping over the experience itself and how we
felt about it. On the way out we were talking
about why does this not happen more often?
Right, right. I would if this was every
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Thursday. If this became like an industry
tradition, sure. Like Thursday night visual
albums, I'd probably go most most.
Thursdays I would. Go, you know, if it's a
reasonable price, It's like hugescreen, great sound system.
Yeah. And the visual stuff does.
And this is probably the meat ofwhat we're going to talk about
here, the visual stuff, especially when it's associated
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with the first time you hear themusic.
Absolutely, Absolutely. I've listened to this album 50
times since that minimum. Wow.
And I still have the visuals in my mind's eye every time I hear
every. Single time, every single time.
Yes. And it's helpful, right.
It's somehow it's hard to put words to it.
It enriches that experience, notonly as you're listening to it
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for the first time, but then later on.
Yeah, absolutely so. You know, we talked about it a
bit, but it got me thinking about how many other albums out
there would have benefited greatly from a visual aspect.
Yeah, absolutely. How many more visual albums are
there out there? I don't even know.
Not many, no. I mean, it'd be interesting to
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dive into that, Yeah, and see how often is this attempt made
right. And it honestly, it didn't even
have to. They didn't have to put that
much into. It it didn't have to be great,
even. No, it was.
I mean, out of how many songs are on the album?
Maybe 12 or so? Yeah, something like give or
take, but. Yeah, 4 or so of them were just
straight up performance. Yes.
It's like there's a stage we gotsome cameras go, Yeah.
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And then a couple were in the studio.
So it's not like it was 12 or whatever discrete art pieces,
right. And some of them, one of them
was just like a look like a stock visualizer like you would
have for your fucking audio player, Right.
Right. Yeah, true.
So it's not like it took, I mean, I'm not gonna, I'm sure it
took effort, right. Especially the opening, which
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the kind of you have to admit, the singer guy on the jet ski
that opens it up feels like satire.
Oh really? I think so.
Maybe I thought it's. This hardcore band, Yeah, yeah,
yeah. Guys on a jet ski?
Yeah, in. Slow motion, yeah, like.
He taking the piss out. Of this, yeah, he must be for
sure, yeah. But no, I mean what what was
your? Yeah, overall, I like OK.
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So I would I would watch a performance of a new album.
Like that's the thing. The the bar was low.
Well, to to me. But I want to hear the studio.
Well, sure. I don't want to hear it live.
I can watch a video of them playing it, but I need the
studio. Yeah, absolutely.
So I really, so just visually I was, I was interested enough.
I was captivated going to a movie theater and watching and
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listening to something for the first time does is it folk?
It it, it forces you to have a lot of focus.
That's true, Which I really appreciate it in this in this
day and age when I'm personally finding it harder and harder to
pay attention. Even when we're reviewing albums
for for the show or catching up on classic albums.
I'll have to go to the bathroom.I'll get up, I'll go do.
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Something someone's going to blow you up on the text, right?
This was none of that. This is you are focused on the
the film the entire time. So I really appreciate it.
That being said, I really enjoyed it.
I really enjoyed. I liked particularly that there
were a lot of performance piecesfrom a band that is so known for
their performances and and hardcore is a genre generally
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it's all about crowd interaction.
It's all about the crowd on the stage.
Incredibly passionate, one of the few incredibly passionate
fan bases when it comes to live music still out there.
That's true, right, because they're slamming into each other
they're jumping off the stage. I want to see all that and I
thought it was very smart that they did so much of the
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incredibly slow, slow motion with this incredibly fast and
heavy music at times that that dichotomy was really it was just
interesting It just kept you wanting to like I I don't know,
it just kept my attention. No it.
Did and how ripped the drummer is too.
I'd give a lot to have that guy's physique.
That was the first thing Tank leaned over was like, dude, if I
look like that I would never puta shirt on.
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Kidney. Walk around naked 24/7, right?
The only for me, the only misfire of the whole thing, and
I don't know which song it was. It was somewhere in the middle
and I think it was an instrumental maybe, or maybe it
wasn't even. That's the other thing about
this album that's interesting isI don't even know where the
songs start. Sure, right, because it it lent
itself to the format very well. But even when listening, I'm
just usually banging away on thekeyboard and I don't I don't
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know where they start and. Then, and it's clearly meant to
be that way they it's definitelya full album, but the.
Interpretive dancer for like 2-3minutes that.
Was a little weird. That was a bit.
Much I feel like that was like someone's girlfriend or they owe
someone a favor and it's like OK, do your.
So it's basically the stage in the middle of a field that they
have performed in a couple of songs on earlier, except this
time it's just an interpretive dancer for the entire song,
which kind of. Kind of has a bit much.
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Yeah, there were just full blown.
There were songs that were it's it's essentially like whatever,
12 song for whatever, how many of her songs it is.
I'm gonna. Look this up so we don't have to
keep saying 12. I hope it is 12 though.
But like they released 3 videos ahead of time before this visual
album came out and it's just they're just clips from the
visual album. That's all they are, I.
Guess why do it twice at that point?
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. But they were distinct enough
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that I was always wondering whatwas coming next.
The ones that were truly sort oflike artistic statements.
They were artistic enough and visually interesting enough.
Like it's like a kids bedroom and stuff blowing up. 14 songs,
as it were, yeah. Close enough.
So yeah, like I was saying, likewhen they went full artistic,
we're just going to have interpretive dancers or whatever
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we're going to have. We're going to have like, there
was one video. It's entirely a car picking up
people to go to the show. Yeah.
That's sad about. That that's it.
It's. Just like a minute and a half of
which was a drone shot, a lot ofdrone.
Shots. A lot of drone shots,
absolutely. Which, why not?
Yeah, but a drone shot like a station wagon in a field for
like a minute and a half straight.
Yep. Which, you know, that's fine.
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You know, they could stall for time.
Yeah. That was cool.
I like the the visuals just generally there was like a Sheen
on top of the like it was didn'tlook like it was high def right.
It looked like it was sort of like I had a vaporwave type
effect on it where it's like intentionally made to look old,
which I dug, which goes with thesort of synth vibe that goes
throughout the album as well. Yeah, one thing that cracked me
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up is one of the rare moments ofpublic group think that it's
just bizarre and funny when it happens.
So the album, the the movie ends, yes, the album's done.
There's no more music. Although I think there was like
an instrumental part that kind of dragged out like a loop or
whatever and they're doing the credits.
No one got up. You notice that?
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Yes, that's true. That's certainly OK.
Everyone's like, no, I'm not gonna be the first one.
They're getting to the part where it's like they're thanking
the Tourism Board of California and stuff.
It's right. It's it is like, you know, Shot
and Panavision. Not until the final piece of
visual artifact scrolled up did someone finally get up.
And we all did at the same time,right?
You practically hear the film going flip, flip, flip, flip.
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I can just imagine like the the 17 or running the projector, but
they're like fucking seriously guys.
Like, I wanna go home. Yeah.
But we walked out and I was like, yeah, I enjoyed that.
And I think for all the reasons that he mentioned, Yeah.
Even an album that I, I ended upreally liking this album.
Yeah. But even one that I didn't like,
I think it's a. If it was 10 bucks, why not?
I'm going to do it almost every time.
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Why not? Yeah, absolutely.
It's it Harkins back to a time when we were kids where we would
just because of limited options,we would try new songs, new
albums just to do it. We'd listen.
We'd go to see or like when you're a kid, you just go to the
movie theater. Yeah, like, whatever's playing.
I'm you see something? Right, Yeah, you go there and
you look at it, say, well, that's fucking least of many
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evils will be that. Yeah, I even said E on the way
out. I'm a big fan, big proponent of
watching old MTV videos, especially 80s videos.
If they just, if you're listening Cinemark or whatever,
fucking corporate conglomerates,everything.
Yeah, if they just did two hoursof 80s videos on a movie screen
on Thursday night, I'm fucking there.
Absolutely. I'm getting popcorn.
Absolutely. Giant screens.
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She blinded me with science and shit.
They sell drinks, so you got that going on?
Yeah, absolutely. Which again, if I had, you know,
a few, a few million, I would dothat.
Oh yeah. But I don't.
So I'm not yet. No, no.
Now the one thing I do want to say.
So yeah, transitioning a bit to the album itself.
OK, sure. Not a turnstile expert.
Matter of fact, I was a turnstile virgin.
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Yeah, before turnstile virgin. It sounds like a Bob Dylan
album. So this was other than small
clips here and there, which is largely my first experience.
And I, you know, I took it all in at the visual thing and I was
driving home thinking about the songs.
I'm like, no, I think I enjoyed that.
I'm gonna buy the album. Yeah.
And definitely digging it. Yeah.
But so I say this, as you know, I'm new to it.
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I bought the album. I bought Glow on the one that
came before it. I.
Really like glow on I. Do, but not as much as the new
one. Wow, OK, yeah, I feel like it
could be recency bias, but I feel like they grew.
Oh, then it's a much fuller album.
For sure I I would agree with that.
But here's the thing, I couldn'thelp but notice, especially the
first few songs and some song inparticular.
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OK, again, I love this album. Yeah, I would give it probably a
nine out of 10 if it was a OK. But I can't help but notice as a
Foo Fighters fan, OK if you did nothing but swap out.
I don't know the guy's name. Brandon something?
Yeah. Probably.
Of course it's a. Brandon, if you.
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Did nothing but swap out his vocals for Dave Grohl.
OK, a handful of these songs, Foo Fighter songs.
And if and if they were, yeah, would be panned.
Yeah. So the critical reception to
this. Again, this is a great album.
It deserves all the flowers. It's getting.
Yeah, yeah, I agree. But what I can't help but notice
is like God damn this sounds like other music I like that is
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not cool and not critically acclaimed.
Yeah, I don't disagree with that.
Never enough that the title track itself is a great example
of what I'm talking about. Yeah, you could swap out that.
That sounds like a Foo Fighter song.
OK. And now I know that this is a
it's a slippery slope to do thiswith music, to say, well, if you
would just take this out and putthis in.
The music. Is the sum of its parts right
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that the voice matters and it's part of the presentation?
I get all that, but to me it wasa very it just struck me as
like, you know what, OK, you have a turnstile as a young
attractive in in in the way that.
Yeah, they are really marketable.
I mean, let's be honest. Racially, Yeah.
Diverse, right? Gender diverse with the new
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female guitars. Like it just strikes me as like,
oh, it's OK to say this is cool.Interesting.
Incredibly similar music. Yeah.
You have to say, is dad rock formulaic.
Contrite. Yeah.
But I'm like, I like this, and Ilike the new Foo Fighters album
because they sound very similar to me.
But critics would never admit that it.
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Really is a an argument for listening to all music in
individual vacuums in a way to just not pay attention to any of
that shit and just let it. It's impossible to do it and you
need to do it. Sometimes you do need context to
know that this is the band, you know, they've been evolving.
But yeah, yeah, I can totally see that.
Yeah, they deserve it. It's great music.
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I am. I'm happy.
I'm excited. Yeah, it I will say this again,
similarities to other things andsimplicity aside, it just felt
good to listen to good rock music that had energy.
Yes. And it just felt fresh.
It does. It does feel fresh.
It's been so long and I don't care how unoriginal it is.
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It feels fresh and urgent and energetic.
And that was such a nice feeling, I.
Think it's totally original, I think.
And in fact, like if you dig in too deep, again, this is not
being in the vacuum. You know, they were much more
typical hardcore in the previousalbums.
And now we're, you know, all your, I was like, oh, I only
like the first two albums and all that shit, right?
This is like their black album. Because they they have evolved.
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You have to evolve. Yeah, they have bigger plans.
I. Think as I go back in the
discography, and I will, I thinkI'll be less and less
interested. I.
Absolutely. I think I'll be bored, yeah.
I needed the complexity that's in never enough to right to dig
into, yeah. Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah. What did you think?
Did you go? I mean, were you one of the?
Were you with? US.
In Auburn Hills, MI or did you get a chance to go see this
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visual album? Yeah.
I don't know if they'll ever release it.
Maybe not. Maybe they shouldn't.
Should they? Sorry, I was supposed to be the
outro, but yeah. Long enough after the fact, Why
not? Yeah, I think so.
So people who? Did see it can like show people.
Whatever. Yeah, but if you do.
We should do a repeat screening with a with a friends.
Don't hear. That'd be a great idea.
We'd love it. Yeah.
Yeah. We are gonna do a screening of
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another visual album soon because I ordered the VHS tape
of a low. Hey, what?
I sent you a text. Oh yeah.
Yes, yes, yes. I because I'm like, are there
other visual albums out there? And it turns out this album that
we, we both dug there's you can only get on VHS.
So I'm gonna have to figure out how to hook up a fucking VHS Wow
VCR to my TV. Yeah, we'll figure.
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It out, we'll get one on like eBay or.
Something I think I have one. So anyway, what do you think of
the new Turnstile album? We didn't get too deep into it,
but are you digging as much as we are?
Had you not heard of heard of them at all before?
If if you haven't, check it out.Check it out.
I'll look to the full album downbelow.
Yeah. And again, who knows, we may be
back in the near future with another summer break Emergency
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Pod. But if not, we'll see you at the
end of the song. That's right.
See you folks. Bye.
Baltimore hardcore band Turnstile came out with a visual
album only in theaters. We went and saw it and we're
going to talk about it today on the Extended Play podcast with
The Intake. That's right, he's E.
I'm Tank. This is a music discussion show
(00:22):
without the hipster snobbery that all the kids call the
Extended Play podcast. All of them.
All three that watch it. And we're here on our summer
break. We just decided to jump in with
some bonus content because we miss you guys.
We did. And we missed each other.
Let's be honest, we did. In ways that are not family
friendly. No, they're not.
So, Speaking of quasi homosexualactivity, we went to a movie
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together. We did so never enough.
Yeah. The the new album by Turnstile,
Yeah. Which completely off my radar,
to be honest. Yeah, I only knew Turnstile from
basically what he put in front of me, which is DC Area Band.
Yeah, concerts are crazy. People are on stage going
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fucking nuts, right? Someone's going to tear an ACL.
In the band, absolutely. Or hurt someone in the band.
Yeah, so. So he said, hey, they're doing a
visual album. I'm like, why not?
Yeah, just basically our response to just about
everything these days, Like, whynot?
What else are we going to do with our lives and.
The cool thing, it was just playing in theaters only for one
night only, and it was playing locally, so it was easy to get
to. And it was the night before the
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album came out, which is kind ofa cool thing.
It's sort of like a listening party in a way there too.
So us and Ted, one of our closest friends.
Which, to be honest, I mean in Auburn Hills, MI, yeah, was
about 8 more than I expected. Yes.
I mean, cuz really I do they allhave podcasts like you know what
I mean? So I, I get it, Turnstile has
fans, right? But just to go on a was it a
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Thursday night? Yes, at 7:00 PM, yes, right.
Just and I become cynical that no one does anything anymore,
which is ironic coming for me cuz I don't do shit.
But anyway. But there were people there and
it was so jumping over the experience itself and how we
felt about it. On the way out we were talking
about why does this not happen more often?
Right, right. I would if this was every
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Thursday. If this became like an industry
tradition, sure. Like Thursday night visual
albums, I'd probably go most most.
Thursdays I would. Go, you know, if it's a
reasonable price, It's like hugescreen, great sound system.
Yeah. And the visual stuff does.
And this is probably the meat ofwhat we're going to talk about
here, the visual stuff, especially when it's associated
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with the first time you hear themusic.
Absolutely, Absolutely. I've listened to this album 50
times since that minimum. Wow.
And I still have the visuals in my mind's eye every time I hear
every. Single time, every single time.
Yes. And it's helpful, right.
It's somehow it's hard to put words to it.
It enriches that experience, notonly as you're listening to it
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for the first time, but then later on.
Yeah, absolutely so. You know, we talked about it a
bit, but it got me thinking about how many other albums out
there would have benefited greatly from a visual aspect.
Yeah, absolutely. How many more visual albums are
there out there? I don't even know.
Not many, no. I mean, it'd be interesting to
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dive into that, Yeah, and see how often is this attempt made
right. And it honestly, it didn't even
have to. They didn't have to put that
much into. It it didn't have to be great,
even. No, it was.
I mean, out of how many songs are on the album?
Maybe 12 or so? Yeah, something like give or
take, but. Yeah, 4 or so of them were just
straight up performance. Yes.
It's like there's a stage we gotsome cameras go, Yeah.
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And then a couple were in the studio.
So it's not like it was 12 or whatever discrete art pieces,
right. And some of them, one of them
was just like a look like a stock visualizer like you would
have for your fucking audio player, Right.
Right. Yeah, true.
So it's not like it took, I mean, I'm not gonna, I'm sure it
took effort, right. Especially the opening, which
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the kind of you have to admit, the singer guy on the jet ski
that opens it up feels like satire.
Oh really? I think so.
Maybe I thought it's. This hardcore band, Yeah, yeah,
yeah. Guys on a jet ski?
Yeah, in. Slow motion, yeah, like.
He taking the piss out. Of this, yeah, he must be for
sure, yeah. But no, I mean what what was
your? Yeah, overall, I like OK.
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So I would I would watch a performance of a new album.
Like that's the thing. The the bar was low.
Well, to to me. But I want to hear the studio.
Well, sure. I don't want to hear it live.
I can watch a video of them playing it, but I need the
studio. Yeah, absolutely.
So I really, so just visually I was, I was interested enough.
I was captivated going to a movie theater and watching and
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listening to something for the first time does is it folk?
It it, it forces you to have a lot of focus.
That's true, Which I really appreciate it in this in this
day and age when I'm personally finding it harder and harder to
pay attention. Even when we're reviewing albums
for for the show or catching up on classic albums.
I'll have to go to the bathroom.I'll get up, I'll go do.
(05:01):
Something someone's going to blow you up on the text, right?
This was none of that. This is you are focused on the
the film the entire time. So I really appreciate it.
That being said, I really enjoyed it.
I really enjoyed. I liked particularly that there
were a lot of performance piecesfrom a band that is so known for
their performances and and hardcore is a genre generally
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it's all about crowd interaction.
It's all about the crowd on the stage.
Incredibly passionate, one of the few incredibly passionate
fan bases when it comes to live music still out there.
That's true, right, because they're slamming into each other
they're jumping off the stage. I want to see all that and I
thought it was very smart that they did so much of the
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incredibly slow, slow motion with this incredibly fast and
heavy music at times that that dichotomy was really it was just
interesting It just kept you wanting to like I I don't know,
it just kept my attention. No it.
Did and how ripped the drummer is too.
I'd give a lot to have that guy's physique.
That was the first thing Tank leaned over was like, dude, if I
look like that I would never puta shirt on.
(06:05):
Kidney. Walk around naked 24/7, right?
The only for me, the only misfire of the whole thing, and
I don't know which song it was. It was somewhere in the middle
and I think it was an instrumental maybe, or maybe it
wasn't even. That's the other thing about
this album that's interesting isI don't even know where the
songs start. Sure, right, because it it lent
itself to the format very well. But even when listening, I'm
just usually banging away on thekeyboard and I don't I don't
(06:26):
know where they start and. Then, and it's clearly meant to
be that way they it's definitelya full album, but the.
Interpretive dancer for like 2-3minutes that.
Was a little weird. That was a bit.
Much I feel like that was like someone's girlfriend or they owe
someone a favor and it's like OK, do your.
So it's basically the stage in the middle of a field that they
have performed in a couple of songs on earlier, except this
time it's just an interpretive dancer for the entire song,
which kind of. Kind of has a bit much.
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Yeah, there were just full blown.
There were songs that were it's it's essentially like whatever,
12 song for whatever, how many of her songs it is.
I'm gonna. Look this up so we don't have to
keep saying 12. I hope it is 12 though.
But like they released 3 videos ahead of time before this visual
album came out and it's just they're just clips from the
visual album. That's all they are, I.
Guess why do it twice at that point?
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. But they were distinct enough
(07:10):
that I was always wondering whatwas coming next.
The ones that were truly sort oflike artistic statements.
They were artistic enough and visually interesting enough.
Like it's like a kids bedroom and stuff blowing up. 14 songs,
as it were, yeah. Close enough.
So yeah, like I was saying, likewhen they went full artistic,
we're just going to have interpretive dancers or whatever
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we're going to have. We're going to have like, there
was one video. It's entirely a car picking up
people to go to the show. Yeah.
That's sad about. That that's it.
It's. Just like a minute and a half of
which was a drone shot, a lot ofdrone.
Shots. A lot of drone shots,
absolutely. Which, why not?
Yeah, but a drone shot like a station wagon in a field for
like a minute and a half straight.
Yep. Which, you know, that's fine.
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You know, they could stall for time.
Yeah. That was cool.
I like the the visuals just generally there was like a Sheen
on top of the like it was didn'tlook like it was high def right.
It looked like it was sort of like I had a vaporwave type
effect on it where it's like intentionally made to look old,
which I dug, which goes with thesort of synth vibe that goes
throughout the album as well. Yeah, one thing that cracked me
(08:14):
up is one of the rare moments ofpublic group think that it's
just bizarre and funny when it happens.
So the album, the the movie ends, yes, the album's done.
There's no more music. Although I think there was like
an instrumental part that kind of dragged out like a loop or
whatever and they're doing the credits.
No one got up. You notice that?
(08:36):
Yes, that's true. That's certainly OK.
Everyone's like, no, I'm not gonna be the first one.
They're getting to the part where it's like they're thanking
the Tourism Board of California and stuff.
It's right. It's it is like, you know, Shot
and Panavision. Not until the final piece of
visual artifact scrolled up did someone finally get up.
And we all did at the same time,right?
You practically hear the film going flip, flip, flip, flip.
(08:58):
I can just imagine like the the 17 or running the projector, but
they're like fucking seriously guys.
Like, I wanna go home. Yeah.
But we walked out and I was like, yeah, I enjoyed that.
And I think for all the reasons that he mentioned, Yeah.
Even an album that I, I ended upreally liking this album.
Yeah. But even one that I didn't like,
I think it's a. If it was 10 bucks, why not?
I'm going to do it almost every time.
(09:19):
Why not? Yeah, absolutely.
It's it Harkins back to a time when we were kids where we would
just because of limited options,we would try new songs, new
albums just to do it. We'd listen.
We'd go to see or like when you're a kid, you just go to the
movie theater. Yeah, like, whatever's playing.
I'm you see something? Right, Yeah, you go there and
you look at it, say, well, that's fucking least of many
(09:40):
evils will be that. Yeah, I even said E on the way
out. I'm a big fan, big proponent of
watching old MTV videos, especially 80s videos.
If they just, if you're listening Cinemark or whatever,
fucking corporate conglomerates,everything.
Yeah, if they just did two hoursof 80s videos on a movie screen
on Thursday night, I'm fucking there.
Absolutely. I'm getting popcorn.
Absolutely. Giant screens.
(10:00):
She blinded me with science and shit.
They sell drinks, so you got that going on?
Yeah, absolutely. Which again, if I had, you know,
a few, a few million, I would dothat.
Oh yeah. But I don't.
So I'm not yet. No, no.
Now the one thing I do want to say.
So yeah, transitioning a bit to the album itself.
OK, sure. Not a turnstile expert.
Matter of fact, I was a turnstile virgin.
(10:20):
Yeah, before turnstile virgin. It sounds like a Bob Dylan
album. So this was other than small
clips here and there, which is largely my first experience.
And I, you know, I took it all in at the visual thing and I was
driving home thinking about the songs.
I'm like, no, I think I enjoyed that.
I'm gonna buy the album. Yeah.
And definitely digging it. Yeah.
But so I say this, as you know, I'm new to it.
(10:44):
I bought the album. I bought Glow on the one that
came before it. I.
Really like glow on I. Do, but not as much as the new
one. Wow, OK, yeah, I feel like it
could be recency bias, but I feel like they grew.
Oh, then it's a much fuller album.
For sure I I would agree with that.
But here's the thing, I couldn'thelp but notice, especially the
first few songs and some song inparticular.
(11:04):
OK, again, I love this album. Yeah, I would give it probably a
nine out of 10 if it was a OK. But I can't help but notice as a
Foo Fighters fan, OK if you did nothing but swap out.
I don't know the guy's name. Brandon something?
Yeah. Probably.
Of course it's a. Brandon, if you.
(11:24):
Did nothing but swap out his vocals for Dave Grohl.
OK, a handful of these songs, Foo Fighter songs.
And if and if they were, yeah, would be panned.
Yeah. So the critical reception to
this. Again, this is a great album.
It deserves all the flowers. It's getting.
Yeah, yeah, I agree. But what I can't help but notice
is like God damn this sounds like other music I like that is
(11:46):
not cool and not critically acclaimed.
Yeah, I don't disagree with that.
Never enough that the title track itself is a great example
of what I'm talking about. Yeah, you could swap out that.
That sounds like a Foo Fighter song.
OK. And now I know that this is a
it's a slippery slope to do thiswith music, to say, well, if you
would just take this out and putthis in.
The music. Is the sum of its parts right
(12:08):
that the voice matters and it's part of the presentation?
I get all that, but to me it wasa very it just struck me as
like, you know what, OK, you have a turnstile as a young
attractive in in in the way that.
Yeah, they are really marketable.
I mean, let's be honest. Racially, Yeah.
Diverse, right? Gender diverse with the new
(12:30):
female guitars. Like it just strikes me as like,
oh, it's OK to say this is cool.Interesting.
Incredibly similar music. Yeah.
You have to say, is dad rock formulaic.
Contrite. Yeah.
But I'm like, I like this, and Ilike the new Foo Fighters album
because they sound very similar to me.
But critics would never admit that it.
(12:50):
Really is a an argument for listening to all music in
individual vacuums in a way to just not pay attention to any of
that shit and just let it. It's impossible to do it and you
need to do it. Sometimes you do need context to
know that this is the band, you know, they've been evolving.
But yeah, yeah, I can totally see that.
Yeah, they deserve it. It's great music.
(13:12):
I am. I'm happy.
I'm excited. Yeah, it I will say this again,
similarities to other things andsimplicity aside, it just felt
good to listen to good rock music that had energy.
Yes. And it just felt fresh.
It does. It does feel fresh.
It's been so long and I don't care how unoriginal it is.
(13:33):
It feels fresh and urgent and energetic.
And that was such a nice feeling, I.
Think it's totally original, I think.
And in fact, like if you dig in too deep, again, this is not
being in the vacuum. You know, they were much more
typical hardcore in the previousalbums.
And now we're, you know, all your, I was like, oh, I only
like the first two albums and all that shit, right?
This is like their black album. Because they they have evolved.
(13:54):
You have to evolve. Yeah, they have bigger plans.
I. Think as I go back in the
discography, and I will, I thinkI'll be less and less
interested. I.
Absolutely. I think I'll be bored, yeah.
I needed the complexity that's in never enough to right to dig
into, yeah. Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah. What did you think?
Did you go? I mean, were you one of the?
Were you with? US.
In Auburn Hills, MI or did you get a chance to go see this
(14:15):
visual album? Yeah.
I don't know if they'll ever release it.
Maybe not. Maybe they shouldn't.
Should they? Sorry, I was supposed to be the
outro, but yeah. Long enough after the fact, Why
not? Yeah, I think so.
So people who? Did see it can like show people.
Whatever. Yeah, but if you do.
We should do a repeat screening with a with a friends.
Don't hear. That'd be a great idea.
We'd love it. Yeah.
Yeah. We are gonna do a screening of
(14:36):
another visual album soon because I ordered the VHS tape
of a low. Hey, what?
I sent you a text. Oh yeah.
Yes, yes, yes. I because I'm like, are there
other visual albums out there? And it turns out this album that
we, we both dug there's you can only get on VHS.
So I'm gonna have to figure out how to hook up a fucking VHS Wow
VCR to my TV. Yeah, we'll figure.
(14:57):
It out, we'll get one on like eBay or.
Something I think I have one. So anyway, what do you think of
the new Turnstile album? We didn't get too deep into it,
but are you digging as much as we are?
Had you not heard of heard of them at all before?
If if you haven't, check it out.Check it out.
I'll look to the full album downbelow.
Yeah. And again, who knows, we may be
back in the near future with another summer break Emergency
(15:18):
Pod. But if not, we'll see you at the
end of the song. That's right.
See you folks. Bye.
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