May 7, 2025 • 25 mins
Hosts E and Tank - music obsessive in their late 40s - recently attended a Bob Mould concert and thought to themselves, “Are we getting too old for this shit?” The short answer: no. The long answer: it’s complicated. We talk about the ideal circumstances for a fun concert experience once you’re in your 40s, how artists embrace (or don’t embrace) aging, and a whole lot moreHow has the concert-going experience changed for you over time? Let us know in the comments!Mentioned in the episode: - Bob Mould & Dave Grohl live: “Ice Cold Ice” and “New Day Rising” Frankie Valli “performances”Watch previous episodes.Please like/follow/subscribe to The Extended Play Podcast.
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We're getting old. We may not look like it, but
we're getting old, and so are some of the musicians that we
really like. We're going to talk about the
experience of being our age, going to concerts and watching
people our age on stage on this edition of the Extended Play
Podcast with Ian Tank. Welcome to the extended play
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podcast. He is EI am Tank and this is the
music discussion show without the hipster snobbery, okay.
That's what this is. That's.
What? This is okay, but as he
mentioned, this is an episode where we're gonna talk about old
people going to watch old. People, That's right, Yeah.
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And this came up, of course, because Tank and I recently went
to see Bob Mould at the ATL Club, not the ATL Club in
Mexican Town in Detroit just a week or two ago.
Yeah, my first time at the venue.
Yes. Oh yeah, we'll talk, probably
talk about that a little bit. This will be partly concert
review. You know, if you're not a Bob
Mould fan, this is not a review of the Bob Mould Show.
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This is more about, you know, people our age going to shows
what that experience is like, which we've touched on a little
bit in our live episode, which Iwill link to somewhere over
there. Again, audio only.
Sorry about that. That was before the age of.
That's how old we are, folks. Yeah, it's before talkies.
It's. Available on Phonograph Phonics,
right? And we'll also talk about, you
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know, being older and going to concerts because we're going to
a lot more now that we're doing the podcast and also watching
people who are older on stage, whether that's legacy acts or
just people that have been doingit for a long time and are still
cranking out new music. I think it's nuanced enough that
it's worth a discussion that that that's kind of why we're
doing it. So if you haven't done so
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notifications, give us a rating.It would really help us out.
Yeah. We want to talk with you about
this experience. I I've, I've looked at the
demographics. A lot of the extended family are
around our age. What's it like for you?
I know the guys at 2 Dudes and Killer Tunes.
They go to a lot of shows and I don't think shit's changed for
them. They like it just as much or if
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not more than they did before. Ours is a little more nuanced
take on that I think. So we'll get kind of get into
that. Yeah.
I mean, and even between you andI, I think there's pretty big
differences in what we. Yes.
Like the, and we're going to getinto both sides of it, where
we're going to talk about the experience of getting older,
going to shows, but also kick around some thoughts on older
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artists. Yes.
Like yes, what changes do they make as they evolve and get
older? Yes.
Absolutely. And what is the experience like
for them? Right, right.
Because at this particular show,at the Ball mole show, I think
average age, we were probably under the average.
Yeah, I think we were and that would make sense because Husker
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do which is probably and and sugar which are the the
highlights of his career is late80s early 90s right where where
would so it's just before us, but.
It was an extreme, like the bellcurve of age here would be very
tall. Like yes it was, yes we were
might have been a little bit younger than average, but no one
was more than 10 years older than us.
Like everyone was in their early. 50s and no one was 10
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years younger than us. No.
Which was weird because like we talked about when we went to see
Dave Matthews, people were bringing their kids.
There were no kids at this show.No.
Which was strange, yeah. Well, yeah, yeah.
Anyway, yeah. Plus 21 and over venue.
It is a 21. Good point.
Was it 18 and over? 18 and over ID for.
This 15 and over but still good point though.
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Yeah, I don't think there were awhole lot of disappointed 12
year olds out there. Probably not.
Yeah, I don't know that they would get it right.
Dave Matthews, a little more accessible than Bob Mold, OK.
You know, it was, I don't know enough to know if it was a good
or bad Bob mold show. Yeah, because it was my first
one. Yeah, sure.
But it was definitely what I expected.
OK, OK. Yeah.
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And I'd only been to 1 show before and I've talked about at
length that it was not a show like this.
It was just him and just an electric guitar and him telling
stories. So I I've never seen him.
I've watched tons of videos but never seen him live like this.
But I remarked to E on the way out that it was one of my
favorite concert experiences because of the ES of the
evening. Yes, like we killed.
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It, by the way, just with scheduling and with the amount
of drinks and everything, that'san art in and of itself.
And we're this age. That's true.
That's true, right? We did crush that, yes, because
it was show well, doors at 7, headliner at 9 or less, right?
Yep. So we're like at 730, arrive in
the area. Yep, right.
Go to a bar park in the street, free free free got it right by
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the venue between the venue and the bar perfect right It was
perfect so free parking none of this like well, you got to wait
for one else to leave to get outcrowded lot bullshit right and
then we get to a bar, a little festive bar lots of.
Fun drinks if you're in the metro Detroit area.
Went to Mutiny in Mexican town. It's a fully themed tiki bar
year round. It's a whole vibe, an amazing
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menu. We should talk about some of the
patrons. Maybe that was not.
Perfect colorful cast of characters.
There was, there was someone who'd made his way through the
treasure map, which they call the, the, the menus or the,
yeah, the drink menu. So he was drinking the last
drink. I think you have to do it in a
calendar year or something like that.
And he was loaded, Yeah. And alone and he.
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Was alone as well, which everyone was really into the
experience. I was happy for him in that
sense, right? Until he finished it and then he
just kind of sat there and everyone was less interested and
now you're just a fucking alcoholic degenerate on a Sunday
night. Seriously.
Down. Seriously.
But they gave him the funny hat to wear for.
A photo. Yeah, that was really good.
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And then there was one guy at the end of The Who wouldn't shut
the fuck up, and he's. Just going to the show too.
Yeah, and he's like just talkingto everyone in the bartender.
The bartender, look, he's paid to do it.
He was almost physically in painhaving to interact with this
guy, and we felt his pain. But then the poor patrons that
came in and had the misfortune of sitting in his general area
became part of his conversation unwillingly.
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Oh yeah. I mean, and he just dominated.
There were three of them, too. So you go with you.
Imagine going with two of your buddies.
And we wanted to have a nice night out.
And like, this guy's just talking your ear.
It's not. Funny if you watch this.
It would be. Funny like if if he if he like
goes to YouTube and like, you know, puts in Bob.
You know, man, we appreciate you.
Like you like to do the same stuff we do.
Yeah, you we're all both of the same places.
But dude, shut the fuck up. I mean just learn to read, bring
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it down all are not reciprocating the language and
move on. He'd travel from Ohio.
We, like, know his whole story. Yeah.
Yeah. Also I feel like he left early.
By the way, 100% let the show. He walked out.
Yeah, about 3/4 in and you're like, that was the bar.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, amazing.
Trying to be traffic, I guess onSunday at 10:00.
Anyway, we we, we roll in at 730.
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Yes, two strong drinks. Probably the equivalent of a
little. Bit more yes.
Yes, they were strong. And and then we walk over to the
show and 0 waiting in line. Get the wristband.
Little playful back and forth with the security.
Yeah, they were super. Nice walk right in the the
roadies were finishing up setting up headliners started
within 5 minutes of us walking in we.
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Got a drink immediately. There was 0 waiting.
Yep, they had like a signature cocktail for like like a mule
for a Bob mule mule. And then I got a fucking tall
boy high life, which is fantastic.
And then, yeah, just, you know, get the drinks and we couldn't
get into. It's basically a a big venue
with there's the bar and the venue, yeah.
With very little overlap in between.
Yes. And it was packed to the point
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that we couldn't see the whole stage.
We could see well. You could see halfway through,
yeah. He could see about half, I could
see about a third. But then I had the revelation
that there's ATV with the stage on it and they're like, yeah, I
know I'm at the show, but fuck it, I can at least see the whole
stage, right. But halfway through, we we
managed to, yeah, compress our way in.
Yeah, but yeah, but enjoying thewhole show and not.
I don't need to see Bob mold. It's not like Beyoncé like.
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Yeah, Well, yes and no. I mean, you're there to see a
live performance. You wanna see what he's like?
I could see his bass player. True.
And his bass player Jason Newsy killed it like he was just as
active. And that's one of my notes about
that show, that we don't need toget into the nitty gritty, but
it's like watching this band is watching like two kids who
cannot believe they get to play music for people.
Yeah. Wander around aimlessly.
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Like kind of almost. It's almost like a hardcore show
where they're almost like bumping into one another.
They're just so into what they're doing in the in the
enthusiasm. It's just so impressive,
especially when you consider thefact that Bob Mould is 64
fucking. Years old.
That was crazy, but we knew Wikipedia that while we were
standing there Yeah, but. But yeah, the show goes, it's
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about perfect length, about an hour and a half. 27 songs in an
hour and a half. Of course.
And like I tell you, my rule nowfor standing my knees have two
hours. Yeah, I'll give you 2 hours of
standing after that. I'm sitting the fuck down
somewhere. Right.
So it was within the, And then the, and we got a couple more.
I got a couple more drinks anyway.
Yep. And then the show's over and
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we're OK. We're gonna leave now.
And we walk out the door. There's no waiting.
We get in the car and we start driving.
Yep. It was amazing.
It was amazing. And on the way in, remember we
got out of the car, we parked immediately and I'm like, I
forgot to eat dinner and I'm like, that's gonna be a problem
if I have two super strong drinks.
Tank goes, hey, there's a pizza place right there.
It looks like they have slices. Okay, let's hit that up.
Maybe we can hit that up on the way back from the bar.
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Yeah, I'm sure enough. We walk in, it's a dollar.
They have cheese only I'm a vegetarian.
I don't even have to pick off the pepperonis.
For a dollar. And it's the perfect size slice
for me to consume the on the entire rest of the walk like.
400 foot walk. I finished my last bite, threw
it in the garbage, went into theshow.
Yeah. I mean, we just killed it.
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Yeah, I'm very proud of us. All of this to say, yeah, it's
more than just a, a, a recreation of a very exciting
event. Sorry.
It's it's to say that at my age now, yeah, that matters.
It does matter. When I was 2526, it was like,
all right, I, I want to have this experience.
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I'm going to pour all my energy into it.
And I don't care what baggage itcomes with.
Right, Right. It's worth it.
The juice is worth the squeeze no matter what.
That's right, yeah. If it's a Wednesday night, if
the parking shit. Exactly.
All that stuff, like I mean, forany Detroiters watching this,
like remember going to see showsat Joe Louis Arena, holy shit.
And it's like, it would actively, for me, it would ruin
the last two or three songs because I sit there going like,
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I can leave now, right, and be home in an hour, or I can spend
more than an hour in the Joe Lewis parking garage.
Which is just that circle, right?
Oh my God. Those are my 2 choices.
And it's like all you're doing is sitting there going do I
really need to hear the song onemore time?
Right, Right. So yeah, but, but the older we
get, the more the experience matters.
I I don't media is instantly available and of infinitely high
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quality yes right. So to go to the show, it's like
what pluses am I getting versus the minuses and seeing the
artist? There's some exceptions that
emotionally it's like I'm alwaysgonna go see this artist, the
Tory yes, there's the metallicas, sure.
I don't even see anything. Yeah, but for the most part,
it's like, all right, I I wouldn't mind sitting and seeing
the artist for sure. But do I want to do it out to
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give up my entire night, spend all that money?
And the ratio of I think that's the key point is the ratio do I
of watching the artist to doing other shit I don't want to do.
Exactly. If it's an hour and a half of
seeing the artist, but three hours of traffic and parking,
it's like, sorry, no deal. Right, I can see that.
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I can totally see that. And that is a definite age
thing. When you're when you're younger,
you're pregaming. You know 1 unlucky friend has to
drive. Everyone else is already puking
before the show. Starts I mean, compare this to
the day again, the Dave MatthewsBand experience, which we had a
previous episode where we talkedabout it that we so it's again,
I keep using the word nuance, but it is very nuanced.
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Any one of those things goes wrong and can fuck up the whole
experience. That's the thing.
They all rely on each other because we did pregame and that
was super fun. You didn't pregame, but a group
of us pregame. We just we played beer pong in
the parking lot had gummies. It was fantastic where it was
beautiful outside. Listen to music and then you
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know there was a bunch of thingsthat fucked that up, which is
that we looked at the setlist and it said he goes and at this
time we forgot we had lawn seats.
So that meant we went in 5 minutes before he started
playing and got the worst seats on the lawn. 700 feet up in the
sky, yeah. It kind of ruined the whole,
that's what I mean, Like you goteverything.
Someone died next to us. Jesus, yeah.
God, that was no the the. I guess that's in a in a
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nutshell. Then with age comes a lot more
boxes that need to be checked toenjoy the experience.
Yeah, convenience matters. It does.
It just does at this age and whatever.
I think I'm fine admitting that,right?
Yeah, Yeah. No, no shame.
And then and then let's all likefor me to be rewarded with such
a great live show. Yeah, to me.
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And like, I had the same experience when my wife and I
went and saw the Hives at L Clubvirtually the very similar
experience, incredibly passionate, energetic live show.
Even if you don't know all the songs, they're they're of the
same energy that you're into it.Yeah, I'm going to jump in right
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there. So that so one of the things
that I that stuck with me about the Bumble, it should be my
first one, is the the paucity ofcrowd banter.
Yes. Look, I don't need to get, which
is why I loved the Hive show. Oh, so much banter.
OK, so which actually it's a very good analogy because I
don't really know the hives thatwell either.
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OK, right, right, right. So granted, the vast majority,
the vast majority of fans of theshow probably very familiar with
the catalog, and I think anyone can relate this, the less you
know the catalog, the harder it is to enjoy a show because
without prior knowledge in that setting, all the songs sound the
same. Totally, totally, I don't care.
And especially Bob Bolt, songs which arguably sound very much
alike on record, much less live.Absolutely.
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And I don't think anyone, I don't think even and he would
argue with that. So that's fine.
And if you know all the songs, you know the little nuances.
To look for, yeah. You're there, you're hearing
them and whatever. Yeah, if you don't, it's just
it's a lot of fast to start a guitar.
It is. And the Hives were very similar
that their songs all sound very similar.
But the Howlin Pell Umpquist was, he's almost like a stand up
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comedian between songs. Yes, he'll talk and it'll be,
you could tell it's not scriptedbecause it's about the city.
He's talking about people in thecrowd.
Yeah, it breaks it up really well.
It does. It does.
That's true. And I, I do think that's another
factor. Again, when you're younger, it's
like you just want to go 100 allthe time.
It's like when you're older, youdon't mind a little little come
down between songs. Sure, sure.
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Let's reset. You know, it's funny, yes, I
agree, I agree 100% with all that stuff.
But now thinking like in retrospect, one thing that I
noticed about the Hive show is that I'm always just, I'm always
in this. I have this kind of out of body
experience when I go to shows now where I'm always bummed out
of how enthusiastic the crowd is.
That is, they're never enthusiastic enough for me.
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OK, I, I don't know if I just, it's like watching the Iron
Maiden documentary or whatever, like, and I'm seeing like fans
in Brazil, like going fucking bonkers.
Like even with participatory high energy rock'n'roll music,
it's a lot of old guys kind of just nodding their heads.
And I, I kind of and take, and Italked about this after the
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fact. I think we're due to like go to
one more, like go to a turnstile, like go to a hardcore
show where people are losing their shit and running around
like crazy. Maybe not be part of it, but
just for the, the vibe. Yeah.
Anyway, when you bend, when there's a lot of banter, the the
vibe can come down for a little bit and then you got to pick it
back up again. There was none of that with Bob
Mould because it was just relentless.
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That's true, yeah. Yeah, yeah, for right.
If if the kind of band that has a mosh pit forming, they really
shouldn't be stretching out the dialogue between no.
They shouldn't, yeah. That's a good point.
But things could get. But the the other reason why I'm
surprised by it is, you know, now to flip, to flip the
perspective, the reason why you have guitar solos, drum solos in
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your typical arena rock concert.Not that this is arena rock,
Yeah, but it's to give the otherband members a breather, right.
So you've got a 64 year old guy.Absolutely.
And I don't know how all the other guys are in the.
Younger, but yeah, 1015 years. Still, it's like, even for a
practicality standpoint, it's like Bob, you want to take a
minute. He does not, no.
Which to be honest, too, I thinkI can't help but be cynical and
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like, it feels like a little, see, like I'm going to come out,
I'm going to give you 90 minutes.
I don't and then I'm gone. It's like almost like it's I
have to do this. Oh yeah.
It's probably not the case like you said.
As like a compulsion maybe, thathe has to tour it, he has to
make music. Or or it's just like to not even
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feel like I don't know. I guess when if someone comes
out and just plays without interacting and then leaves, I
feel like it's a doing a job. OK, I think if he did that with
10 songs. Well, but, but I think he, he
knows he has to play an hour anda half.
He's going to get a bunch of shit for it.
I know. I, I think, but to your point
earlier, I do believe he enjoys doing it, the bouncing around,
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whatever else. I'm just saying it it that's the
the taste on mouth I get is like, OK, sure, they're doing
this because they have to come out, play the songs, leave.
Yeah, it. Could and it could be just a
matter of him being more introverted.
Exactly right, exactly. I don't think that is his reason
yes. It's just when I see that
gotcha, I'm like, can you give me something that makes me feel
like you want to be here play sex.
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You know what I mean? Like like give me something.
I think that's. More of a you problem if you
can't tell if people are enthused, no.
Or alive. Yeah, I'll give, I'll drop some
links in the show description for live shows you can watch on
YouTube. I think that, you know, again,
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this is less a Bob Mould concertdebrief than it is about the
experience. But just so you can appreciate
like especially if you're going to see older acts that stand
there like fucking whatever, like statues, the whole concert,
that that look. Like Ricky Bailey.
Oh Jesus, I'll try. Oh man, if you haven't seen that
Frankie Valli, yes, he's like 100 years old like.
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A animated. Corpse Oh, it's really bad.
It's really bad. I'll put a link in the comments
to the OR the show description. But but you know what I mean
like it. So it's so easy to mail it in at
that age and I'll drop particularly I'll I'll advise
you to watch the show. There was a tribute concert he
kind of threw for himself, I think, and Dave Grohl played on
it and he did a bunch of Husker Due and Sugar songs and he, he
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and Dave Grohl match energy. Yeah, a guy that's 30 years
younger, 20 years younger anyway, so I'll drop those in
the in the notes. But I was talking with the the
dude at the Detroit Record Club,the owner of the Detroit Record
Club, when I stopped in the other day and he was like,
you've been in any shows? And I'm like, yeah, I went to
Bob Mould. He's like, how was it?
And I'm like, it was fucking awesome.
And he's like, he seems like it would be awesome and it would be
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like the high energy. I'm like, I was really
impressed. You know, my podcast Co host and
I were really impressed. And he he's a huge kiss guy.
I think I've talked about this in the past.
And he's like, you know, especially when you think about
other acts of that age and what they like kiss.
He's like, at a certain point, he stopped going to kiss shows
because it was so incredibly scripted.
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Yeah. Not only was it the same setlist
every single time, but he said the banter was scripted.
That's not good. The.
Exact same things he would say in between songs like No thanks.
Which by the way, again, minor debit to to Bob it was.
He does play the same setlist every night on this.
Tour. Yeah, he changed it.
There were three songs he changed up.
I, I did a like debrief afterwards and yeah, yeah.
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So, I mean, but again, I I don'treally care because I wouldn't
have known him anyway. The, the one I was really
familiar with was completely absent from the setlist.
So I was demoralized from the start.
But it it is one thing we did talk about is it is almost
embarrassing how much energy yes, he was putting in.
Yes. And you'll go see bands of guys
that are in their 20s not givingit as much effort.
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Yes. And it's a So there's as much as
it's, no one likes to think about it.
It's not very rock'n'roll, Yeah.That has to be a conscious
decision with effort, yes, To maintain that, yes.
So again, because if there's, I know everything, Metallica.
Yeah. On this tour of 72 seasons, the
fans were chatting because they they played two nights on this
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tour. Friday and Sunday night they
were doing 16 and 16, OK, the next like they were doing 15 and
15 OK. Fans are kind of bitching about
it because they're entitled fucking assholes, but that's the
stark reality. They probably was like, guys, I
can't do this for 30. 2 songs anymore exactly.
For the course of a weekend and then Lars is talking about how
he has to have 4 hours of like massage and meditation and yoga
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the day of the. Show.
Wow. OK.
It's like when you're 60, it's like I can't do I'm 48, right.
So I, I mean, to some extent, whether it's healthy living,
exercise, like they're, there's no question these guys have to
focus on being able to physically pull this off.
Yes. So there's a certain respect I
have just for getting on stage and performing at an age where,
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like, I mean, how many nights doyou feel you don't want to get
off the couch? Sure, let's get in front of 1000
people. Right.
Yeah. Yeah.
And I think, you know, there is that contract between artist and
fan and it's a complicated contract.
There's a lot of sub clauses andthings like that, right?
Where like you expect a certain energy level.
There may be things going on in their lives that they can't at
that particular night, physically and emotionally,
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whatever. But at least a show like this, I
felt like, I mean, talk about getting your money's worth.
Yeah, right. And that's really what you want.
You want your money's worth and your time's worth out of the
show. It was the opposite of the
Counting Crow show, yes, where it was like you talk about that
contract, yes. Like regardless of how you feel
about the setlist or whatever, the lack of banter, yeah, I paid
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for you to perform and he fucking performed, yes.
Whereas you go see Counting Crows and it's like they were
the body language was I don't want to be here, yes.
Absolutely. And then don't come.
Then don't do it. Don't put and don't mislead
fans, right? Who would think, oh, it's going
to be a great life. You know you.
Again, we assume positive intent.
I do. We don't think it's a cash grab.
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Even if it is a cash grab. They're our favorite bands, so
we want to go see them. But this is what I'll say.
This is not a cash grab situation like when you are this
old, right, and you have to go through all this.
Clearly you're not doing it justbecause you have to.
You do it because you have to, but it's because you're
compelled to do it. And to be honest, he could be
breaking even on this. Tour.
Oh yeah, I mean, he's playing a 300, right?
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Capacity venue. Right there.
So I mean by the time you pay everyone and the the trucks and
everything, I mean, maybe it's just because he loves doing it.
I mean. He must because we looked at
like the van, it was like a 10/8seater van that they were taking
around. Crazy.
Yeah. Not even a bus?
Yeah. So anyway, I'm just, I can't be,
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I can't be more effusive in my praise for this show.
It's just everything I wanted ina show.
It's rock'n'roll in a time wherelike, rock'n'roll, right?
People have opinions about the band, The bands are done.
Nobody cares about rock'n'roll music anymore.
They're all nostalgia acts, noneof it.
It felt fresh, it felt vital. I got to hang out with my boy
and we had a great time. We fucking killed it with all
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our planning. We could do more of those.
Because honestly, I agree. I don't even necessarily care
that much who the artist is if if we can run that play.
Right in and out. I'm in.
Drinks yeah right, absolutely right like we're.
Gonna we're gonna be doing, there'll be a very good test of
this. So in a couple months, we're
gonna be doing the Run the Jewels and Wu Tang show, Yes, at
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Little Caesars Arena, Yes, it has potential to be the exact
opposite of this. It does.
It could be we're I'm going 90% for RTJ honestly right.
I'm not expecting much on a Wu Tang clan at all.
Right, but they could be late. The parking.
Situation could be a nightmare. Exactly.
It could be traffic and nonsenseand garbage and then we get
there and it's just like a bunchof guys like doped up out of
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their mind just like giving it zero effort and then stuck in
traffic on the way outgoing. This is the exact.
Opposite of the. Bomb old show, right?
So we'll see. Yeah, we'll see, but let us know
what you think if you're again, if you're around our age, late,
mid, late 40s, God damn, I hate saying I hate if.
You're around our age. Start contributing to your Roth
IRA, maybe take some supplements.
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I was going to say just fucking end it.
Just it's not getting better. We are first.
Like and subscribe to. The extent of my podcast.
Because we want you as a subscriber even after you're
dead. That's.
Right. What are your loved ones going
to come in and unsubscribe from exactly?
They don't know what you're into.
No, they do not know what you'reinto.
I'm sure of it with this. Audience you died via strang
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abation, then they're going to know.
Right. Yeah, but let us know what
what's your experience? I mean, is it this?
Do you think about it this deeply?
Maybe not. But now that you've listened to
us ramble on for a few minutes about it, what's your experience
when you go to live shows? Does does any of this shit
matter? Or is it like you just go in
expecting it's going to be a shit show?
Yeah, yeah. Let us know in the comments.
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All right, see you folks.
We're getting old. We may not look like it, but
we're getting old, and so are some of the musicians that we
really like. We're going to talk about the
experience of being our age, going to concerts and watching
people our age on stage on this edition of the Extended Play
Podcast with Ian Tank. Welcome to the extended play
(00:25):
podcast. He is EI am Tank and this is the
music discussion show without the hipster snobbery, okay.
That's what this is. That's.
What? This is okay, but as he
mentioned, this is an episode where we're gonna talk about old
people going to watch old. People, That's right, Yeah.
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And this came up, of course, because Tank and I recently went
to see Bob Mould at the ATL Club, not the ATL Club in
Mexican Town in Detroit just a week or two ago.
Yeah, my first time at the venue.
Yes. Oh yeah, we'll talk, probably
talk about that a little bit. This will be partly concert
review. You know, if you're not a Bob
Mould fan, this is not a review of the Bob Mould Show.
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This is more about, you know, people our age going to shows
what that experience is like, which we've touched on a little
bit in our live episode, which Iwill link to somewhere over
there. Again, audio only.
Sorry about that. That was before the age of.
That's how old we are, folks. Yeah, it's before talkies.
It's. Available on Phonograph Phonics,
right? And we'll also talk about, you
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know, being older and going to concerts because we're going to
a lot more now that we're doing the podcast and also watching
people who are older on stage, whether that's legacy acts or
just people that have been doingit for a long time and are still
cranking out new music. I think it's nuanced enough that
it's worth a discussion that that that's kind of why we're
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notifications, give us a rating.It would really help us out.
Yeah. We want to talk with you about
this experience. I I've, I've looked at the
demographics. A lot of the extended family are
around our age. What's it like for you?
I know the guys at 2 Dudes and Killer Tunes.
They go to a lot of shows and I don't think shit's changed for
them. They like it just as much or if
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not more than they did before. Ours is a little more nuanced
take on that I think. So we'll get kind of get into
that. Yeah.
I mean, and even between you andI, I think there's pretty big
differences in what we. Yes.
Like the, and we're going to getinto both sides of it, where
we're going to talk about the experience of getting older,
going to shows, but also kick around some thoughts on older
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artists. Yes.
Like yes, what changes do they make as they evolve and get
older? Yes.
Absolutely. And what is the experience like
for them? Right, right.
Because at this particular show,at the Ball mole show, I think
average age, we were probably under the average.
Yeah, I think we were and that would make sense because Husker
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do which is probably and and sugar which are the the
highlights of his career is late80s early 90s right where where
would so it's just before us, but.
It was an extreme, like the bellcurve of age here would be very
tall. Like yes it was, yes we were
might have been a little bit younger than average, but no one
was more than 10 years older than us.
Like everyone was in their early. 50s and no one was 10
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years younger than us. No.
Which was weird because like we talked about when we went to see
Dave Matthews, people were bringing their kids.
There were no kids at this show.No.
Which was strange, yeah. Well, yeah, yeah.
Anyway, yeah. Plus 21 and over venue.
It is a 21. Good point.
Was it 18 and over? 18 and over ID for.
This 15 and over but still good point though.
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Yeah, I don't think there were awhole lot of disappointed 12
year olds out there. Probably not.
Yeah, I don't know that they would get it right.
Dave Matthews, a little more accessible than Bob Mold, OK.
You know, it was, I don't know enough to know if it was a good
or bad Bob mold show. Yeah, because it was my first
one. Yeah, sure.
But it was definitely what I expected.
OK, OK. Yeah.
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And I'd only been to 1 show before and I've talked about at
length that it was not a show like this.
It was just him and just an electric guitar and him telling
stories. So I I've never seen him.
I've watched tons of videos but never seen him live like this.
But I remarked to E on the way out that it was one of my
favorite concert experiences because of the ES of the
evening. Yes, like we killed.
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It, by the way, just with scheduling and with the amount
of drinks and everything, that'san art in and of itself.
And we're this age. That's true.
That's true, right? We did crush that, yes, because
it was show well, doors at 7, headliner at 9 or less, right?
Yep. So we're like at 730, arrive in
the area. Yep, right.
Go to a bar park in the street, free free free got it right by
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the venue between the venue and the bar perfect right It was
perfect so free parking none of this like well, you got to wait
for one else to leave to get outcrowded lot bullshit right and
then we get to a bar, a little festive bar lots of.
Fun drinks if you're in the metro Detroit area.
Went to Mutiny in Mexican town. It's a fully themed tiki bar
year round. It's a whole vibe, an amazing
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menu. We should talk about some of the
patrons. Maybe that was not.
Perfect colorful cast of characters.
There was, there was someone who'd made his way through the
treasure map, which they call the, the, the menus or the,
yeah, the drink menu. So he was drinking the last
drink. I think you have to do it in a
calendar year or something like that.
And he was loaded, Yeah. And alone and he.
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Was alone as well, which everyone was really into the
experience. I was happy for him in that
sense, right? Until he finished it and then he
just kind of sat there and everyone was less interested and
now you're just a fucking alcoholic degenerate on a Sunday
night. Seriously.
Down. Seriously.
But they gave him the funny hat to wear for.
A photo. Yeah, that was really good.
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And then there was one guy at the end of The Who wouldn't shut
the fuck up, and he's. Just going to the show too.
Yeah, and he's like just talkingto everyone in the bartender.
The bartender, look, he's paid to do it.
He was almost physically in painhaving to interact with this
guy, and we felt his pain. But then the poor patrons that
came in and had the misfortune of sitting in his general area
became part of his conversation unwillingly.
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Oh yeah. I mean, and he just dominated.
There were three of them, too. So you go with you.
Imagine going with two of your buddies.
And we wanted to have a nice night out.
And like, this guy's just talking your ear.
It's not. Funny if you watch this.
It would be. Funny like if if he if he like
goes to YouTube and like, you know, puts in Bob.
You know, man, we appreciate you.
Like you like to do the same stuff we do.
Yeah, you we're all both of the same places.
But dude, shut the fuck up. I mean just learn to read, bring
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it down all are not reciprocating the language and
move on. He'd travel from Ohio.
We, like, know his whole story. Yeah.
Yeah. Also I feel like he left early.
By the way, 100% let the show. He walked out.
Yeah, about 3/4 in and you're like, that was the bar.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, amazing.
Trying to be traffic, I guess onSunday at 10:00.
Anyway, we we, we roll in at 730.
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Yes, two strong drinks. Probably the equivalent of a
little. Bit more yes.
Yes, they were strong. And and then we walk over to the
show and 0 waiting in line. Get the wristband.
Little playful back and forth with the security.
Yeah, they were super. Nice walk right in the the
roadies were finishing up setting up headliners started
within 5 minutes of us walking in we.
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Got a drink immediately. There was 0 waiting.
Yep, they had like a signature cocktail for like like a mule
for a Bob mule mule. And then I got a fucking tall
boy high life, which is fantastic.
And then, yeah, just, you know, get the drinks and we couldn't
get into. It's basically a a big venue
with there's the bar and the venue, yeah.
With very little overlap in between.
Yes. And it was packed to the point
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that we couldn't see the whole stage.
We could see well. You could see halfway through,
yeah. He could see about half, I could
see about a third. But then I had the revelation
that there's ATV with the stage on it and they're like, yeah, I
know I'm at the show, but fuck it, I can at least see the whole
stage, right. But halfway through, we we
managed to, yeah, compress our way in.
Yeah, but yeah, but enjoying thewhole show and not.
I don't need to see Bob mold. It's not like Beyoncé like.
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Yeah, Well, yes and no. I mean, you're there to see a
live performance. You wanna see what he's like?
I could see his bass player. True.
And his bass player Jason Newsy killed it like he was just as
active. And that's one of my notes about
that show, that we don't need toget into the nitty gritty, but
it's like watching this band is watching like two kids who
cannot believe they get to play music for people.
Yeah. Wander around aimlessly.
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Like kind of almost. It's almost like a hardcore show
where they're almost like bumping into one another.
They're just so into what they're doing in the in the
enthusiasm. It's just so impressive,
especially when you consider thefact that Bob Mould is 64
fucking. Years old.
That was crazy, but we knew Wikipedia that while we were
standing there Yeah, but. But yeah, the show goes, it's
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about perfect length, about an hour and a half. 27 songs in an
hour and a half. Of course.
And like I tell you, my rule nowfor standing my knees have two
hours. Yeah, I'll give you 2 hours of
standing after that. I'm sitting the fuck down
somewhere. Right.
So it was within the, And then the, and we got a couple more.
I got a couple more drinks anyway.
Yep. And then the show's over and
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we're OK. We're gonna leave now.
And we walk out the door. There's no waiting.
We get in the car and we start driving.
Yep. It was amazing.
It was amazing. And on the way in, remember we
got out of the car, we parked immediately and I'm like, I
forgot to eat dinner and I'm like, that's gonna be a problem
if I have two super strong drinks.
Tank goes, hey, there's a pizza place right there.
It looks like they have slices. Okay, let's hit that up.
Maybe we can hit that up on the way back from the bar.
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Yeah, I'm sure enough. We walk in, it's a dollar.
They have cheese only I'm a vegetarian.
I don't even have to pick off the pepperonis.
For a dollar. And it's the perfect size slice
for me to consume the on the entire rest of the walk like.
400 foot walk. I finished my last bite, threw
it in the garbage, went into theshow.
Yeah. I mean, we just killed it.
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Yeah, I'm very proud of us. All of this to say, yeah, it's
more than just a, a, a recreation of a very exciting
event. Sorry.
It's it's to say that at my age now, yeah, that matters.
It does matter. When I was 2526, it was like,
all right, I, I want to have this experience.
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I'm going to pour all my energy into it.
And I don't care what baggage itcomes with.
Right, Right. It's worth it.
The juice is worth the squeeze no matter what.
That's right, yeah. If it's a Wednesday night, if
the parking shit. Exactly.
All that stuff, like I mean, forany Detroiters watching this,
like remember going to see showsat Joe Louis Arena, holy shit.
And it's like, it would actively, for me, it would ruin
the last two or three songs because I sit there going like,
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I can leave now, right, and be home in an hour, or I can spend
more than an hour in the Joe Lewis parking garage.
Which is just that circle, right?
Oh my God. Those are my 2 choices.
And it's like all you're doing is sitting there going do I
really need to hear the song onemore time?
Right, Right. So yeah, but, but the older we
get, the more the experience matters.
I I don't media is instantly available and of infinitely high
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quality yes right. So to go to the show, it's like
what pluses am I getting versus the minuses and seeing the
artist? There's some exceptions that
emotionally it's like I'm alwaysgonna go see this artist, the
Tory yes, there's the metallicas, sure.
I don't even see anything. Yeah, but for the most part,
it's like, all right, I I wouldn't mind sitting and seeing
the artist for sure. But do I want to do it out to
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give up my entire night, spend all that money?
And the ratio of I think that's the key point is the ratio do I
of watching the artist to doing other shit I don't want to do.
Exactly. If it's an hour and a half of
seeing the artist, but three hours of traffic and parking,
it's like, sorry, no deal. Right, I can see that.
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I can totally see that. And that is a definite age
thing. When you're when you're younger,
you're pregaming. You know 1 unlucky friend has to
drive. Everyone else is already puking
before the show. Starts I mean, compare this to
the day again, the Dave MatthewsBand experience, which we had a
previous episode where we talkedabout it that we so it's again,
I keep using the word nuance, but it is very nuanced.
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Any one of those things goes wrong and can fuck up the whole
experience. That's the thing.
They all rely on each other because we did pregame and that
was super fun. You didn't pregame, but a group
of us pregame. We just we played beer pong in
the parking lot had gummies. It was fantastic where it was
beautiful outside. Listen to music and then you
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know there was a bunch of thingsthat fucked that up, which is
that we looked at the setlist and it said he goes and at this
time we forgot we had lawn seats.
So that meant we went in 5 minutes before he started
playing and got the worst seats on the lawn. 700 feet up in the
sky, yeah. It kind of ruined the whole,
that's what I mean, Like you goteverything.
Someone died next to us. Jesus, yeah.
God, that was no the the. I guess that's in a in a
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nutshell. Then with age comes a lot more
boxes that need to be checked toenjoy the experience.
Yeah, convenience matters. It does.
It just does at this age and whatever.
I think I'm fine admitting that,right?
Yeah, Yeah. No, no shame.
And then and then let's all likefor me to be rewarded with such
a great live show. Yeah, to me.
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And like, I had the same experience when my wife and I
went and saw the Hives at L Clubvirtually the very similar
experience, incredibly passionate, energetic live show.
Even if you don't know all the songs, they're they're of the
same energy that you're into it.Yeah, I'm going to jump in right
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there. So that so one of the things
that I that stuck with me about the Bumble, it should be my
first one, is the the paucity ofcrowd banter.
Yes. Look, I don't need to get, which
is why I loved the Hive show. Oh, so much banter.
OK, so which actually it's a very good analogy because I
don't really know the hives thatwell either.
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OK, right, right, right. So granted, the vast majority,
the vast majority of fans of theshow probably very familiar with
the catalog, and I think anyone can relate this, the less you
know the catalog, the harder it is to enjoy a show because
without prior knowledge in that setting, all the songs sound the
same. Totally, totally, I don't care.
And especially Bob Bolt, songs which arguably sound very much
alike on record, much less live.Absolutely.
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And I don't think anyone, I don't think even and he would
argue with that. So that's fine.
And if you know all the songs, you know the little nuances.
To look for, yeah. You're there, you're hearing
them and whatever. Yeah, if you don't, it's just
it's a lot of fast to start a guitar.
It is. And the Hives were very similar
that their songs all sound very similar.
But the Howlin Pell Umpquist was, he's almost like a stand up
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comedian between songs. Yes, he'll talk and it'll be,
you could tell it's not scriptedbecause it's about the city.
He's talking about people in thecrowd.
Yeah, it breaks it up really well.
It does. It does.
That's true. And I, I do think that's another
factor. Again, when you're younger, it's
like you just want to go 100 allthe time.
It's like when you're older, youdon't mind a little little come
down between songs. Sure, sure.
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Let's reset. You know, it's funny, yes, I
agree, I agree 100% with all that stuff.
But now thinking like in retrospect, one thing that I
noticed about the Hive show is that I'm always just, I'm always
in this. I have this kind of out of body
experience when I go to shows now where I'm always bummed out
of how enthusiastic the crowd is.
That is, they're never enthusiastic enough for me.
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OK, I, I don't know if I just, it's like watching the Iron
Maiden documentary or whatever, like, and I'm seeing like fans
in Brazil, like going fucking bonkers.
Like even with participatory high energy rock'n'roll music,
it's a lot of old guys kind of just nodding their heads.
And I, I kind of and take, and Italked about this after the
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fact. I think we're due to like go to
one more, like go to a turnstile, like go to a hardcore
show where people are losing their shit and running around
like crazy. Maybe not be part of it, but
just for the, the vibe. Yeah.
Anyway, when you bend, when there's a lot of banter, the the
vibe can come down for a little bit and then you got to pick it
back up again. There was none of that with Bob
Mould because it was just relentless.
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That's true, yeah. Yeah, yeah, for right.
If if the kind of band that has a mosh pit forming, they really
shouldn't be stretching out the dialogue between no.
They shouldn't, yeah. That's a good point.
But things could get. But the the other reason why I'm
surprised by it is, you know, now to flip, to flip the
perspective, the reason why you have guitar solos, drum solos in
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your typical arena rock concert.Not that this is arena rock,
Yeah, but it's to give the otherband members a breather, right.
So you've got a 64 year old guy.Absolutely.
And I don't know how all the other guys are in the.
Younger, but yeah, 1015 years. Still, it's like, even for a
practicality standpoint, it's like Bob, you want to take a
minute. He does not, no.
Which to be honest, too, I thinkI can't help but be cynical and
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like, it feels like a little, see, like I'm going to come out,
I'm going to give you 90 minutes.
I don't and then I'm gone. It's like almost like it's I
have to do this. Oh yeah.
It's probably not the case like you said.
As like a compulsion maybe, thathe has to tour it, he has to
make music. Or or it's just like to not even
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feel like I don't know. I guess when if someone comes
out and just plays without interacting and then leaves, I
feel like it's a doing a job. OK, I think if he did that with
10 songs. Well, but, but I think he, he
knows he has to play an hour anda half.
He's going to get a bunch of shit for it.
I know. I, I think, but to your point
earlier, I do believe he enjoys doing it, the bouncing around,
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whatever else. I'm just saying it it that's the
the taste on mouth I get is like, OK, sure, they're doing
this because they have to come out, play the songs, leave.
Yeah, it. Could and it could be just a
matter of him being more introverted.
Exactly right, exactly. I don't think that is his reason
yes. It's just when I see that
gotcha, I'm like, can you give me something that makes me feel
like you want to be here play sex.
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You know what I mean? Like like give me something.
I think that's. More of a you problem if you
can't tell if people are enthused, no.
Or alive. Yeah, I'll give, I'll drop some
links in the show description for live shows you can watch on
YouTube. I think that, you know, again,
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this is less a Bob Mould concertdebrief than it is about the
experience. But just so you can appreciate
like especially if you're going to see older acts that stand
there like fucking whatever, like statues, the whole concert,
that that look. Like Ricky Bailey.
Oh Jesus, I'll try. Oh man, if you haven't seen that
Frankie Valli, yes, he's like 100 years old like.
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A animated. Corpse Oh, it's really bad.
It's really bad. I'll put a link in the comments
to the OR the show description. But but you know what I mean
like it. So it's so easy to mail it in at
that age and I'll drop particularly I'll I'll advise
you to watch the show. There was a tribute concert he
kind of threw for himself, I think, and Dave Grohl played on
it and he did a bunch of Husker Due and Sugar songs and he, he
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and Dave Grohl match energy. Yeah, a guy that's 30 years
younger, 20 years younger anyway, so I'll drop those in
the in the notes. But I was talking with the the
dude at the Detroit Record Club,the owner of the Detroit Record
Club, when I stopped in the other day and he was like,
you've been in any shows? And I'm like, yeah, I went to
Bob Mould. He's like, how was it?
And I'm like, it was fucking awesome.
And he's like, he seems like it would be awesome and it would be
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like the high energy. I'm like, I was really
impressed. You know, my podcast Co host and
I were really impressed. And he he's a huge kiss guy.
I think I've talked about this in the past.
And he's like, you know, especially when you think about
other acts of that age and what they like kiss.
He's like, at a certain point, he stopped going to kiss shows
because it was so incredibly scripted.
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Yeah. Not only was it the same setlist
every single time, but he said the banter was scripted.
That's not good. The.
Exact same things he would say in between songs like No thanks.
Which by the way, again, minor debit to to Bob it was.
He does play the same setlist every night on this.
Tour. Yeah, he changed it.
There were three songs he changed up.
I, I did a like debrief afterwards and yeah, yeah.
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So, I mean, but again, I I don'treally care because I wouldn't
have known him anyway. The, the one I was really
familiar with was completely absent from the setlist.
So I was demoralized from the start.
But it it is one thing we did talk about is it is almost
embarrassing how much energy yes, he was putting in.
Yes. And you'll go see bands of guys
that are in their 20s not givingit as much effort.
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Yes. And it's a So there's as much as
it's, no one likes to think about it.
It's not very rock'n'roll, Yeah.That has to be a conscious
decision with effort, yes, To maintain that, yes.
So again, because if there's, I know everything, Metallica.
Yeah. On this tour of 72 seasons, the
fans were chatting because they they played two nights on this
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tour. Friday and Sunday night they
were doing 16 and 16, OK, the next like they were doing 15 and
15 OK. Fans are kind of bitching about
it because they're entitled fucking assholes, but that's the
stark reality. They probably was like, guys, I
can't do this for 30. 2 songs anymore exactly.
For the course of a weekend and then Lars is talking about how
he has to have 4 hours of like massage and meditation and yoga
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the day of the. Show.
Wow. OK.
It's like when you're 60, it's like I can't do I'm 48, right.
So I, I mean, to some extent, whether it's healthy living,
exercise, like they're, there's no question these guys have to
focus on being able to physically pull this off.
Yes. So there's a certain respect I
have just for getting on stage and performing at an age where,
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like, I mean, how many nights doyou feel you don't want to get
off the couch? Sure, let's get in front of 1000
people. Right.
Yeah. Yeah.
And I think, you know, there is that contract between artist and
fan and it's a complicated contract.
There's a lot of sub clauses andthings like that, right?
Where like you expect a certain energy level.
There may be things going on in their lives that they can't at
that particular night, physically and emotionally,
(21:32):
whatever. But at least a show like this, I
felt like, I mean, talk about getting your money's worth.
Yeah, right. And that's really what you want.
You want your money's worth and your time's worth out of the
show. It was the opposite of the
Counting Crow show, yes, where it was like you talk about that
contract, yes. Like regardless of how you feel
about the setlist or whatever, the lack of banter, yeah, I paid
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for you to perform and he fucking performed, yes.
Whereas you go see Counting Crows and it's like they were
the body language was I don't want to be here, yes.
Absolutely. And then don't come.
Then don't do it. Don't put and don't mislead
fans, right? Who would think, oh, it's going
to be a great life. You know you.
Again, we assume positive intent.
I do. We don't think it's a cash grab.
(22:13):
Even if it is a cash grab. They're our favorite bands, so
we want to go see them. But this is what I'll say.
This is not a cash grab situation like when you are this
old, right, and you have to go through all this.
Clearly you're not doing it justbecause you have to.
You do it because you have to, but it's because you're
compelled to do it. And to be honest, he could be
breaking even on this. Tour.
Oh yeah, I mean, he's playing a 300, right?
(22:34):
Capacity venue. Right there.
So I mean by the time you pay everyone and the the trucks and
everything, I mean, maybe it's just because he loves doing it.
I mean. He must because we looked at
like the van, it was like a 10/8seater van that they were taking
around. Crazy.
Yeah. Not even a bus?
Yeah. So anyway, I'm just, I can't be,
(22:54):
I can't be more effusive in my praise for this show.
It's just everything I wanted ina show.
It's rock'n'roll in a time wherelike, rock'n'roll, right?
People have opinions about the band, The bands are done.
Nobody cares about rock'n'roll music anymore.
They're all nostalgia acts, noneof it.
It felt fresh, it felt vital. I got to hang out with my boy
and we had a great time. We fucking killed it with all
(23:15):
our planning. We could do more of those.
Because honestly, I agree. I don't even necessarily care
that much who the artist is if if we can run that play.
Right in and out. I'm in.
Drinks yeah right, absolutely right like we're.
Gonna we're gonna be doing, there'll be a very good test of
this. So in a couple months, we're
gonna be doing the Run the Jewels and Wu Tang show, Yes, at
(23:36):
Little Caesars Arena, Yes, it has potential to be the exact
opposite of this. It does.
It could be we're I'm going 90% for RTJ honestly right.
I'm not expecting much on a Wu Tang clan at all.
Right, but they could be late. The parking.
Situation could be a nightmare. Exactly.
It could be traffic and nonsenseand garbage and then we get
there and it's just like a bunchof guys like doped up out of
(23:57):
their mind just like giving it zero effort and then stuck in
traffic on the way outgoing. This is the exact.
Opposite of the. Bomb old show, right?
So we'll see. Yeah, we'll see, but let us know
what you think if you're again, if you're around our age, late,
mid, late 40s, God damn, I hate saying I hate if.
You're around our age. Start contributing to your Roth
IRA, maybe take some supplements.
(24:18):
I was going to say just fucking end it.
Just it's not getting better. We are first.
Like and subscribe to. The extent of my podcast.
Because we want you as a subscriber even after you're
dead. That's.
Right. What are your loved ones going
to come in and unsubscribe from exactly?
They don't know what you're into.
No, they do not know what you'reinto.
I'm sure of it with this. Audience you died via strang
(24:40):
abation, then they're going to know.
Right. Yeah, but let us know what
what's your experience? I mean, is it this?
Do you think about it this deeply?
Maybe not. But now that you've listened to
us ramble on for a few minutes about it, what's your experience
when you go to live shows? Does does any of this shit
matter? Or is it like you just go in
expecting it's going to be a shit show?
Yeah, yeah. Let us know in the comments.
(25:01):
Anyway, we love you extended family.
Tell a friend about the ExtendedPlay podcast and come and watch
us next time when we'll talk about something awesome.
All right, see you folks.
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