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September 22, 2025 51 mins
In this insightful episode of the EZ Conversations Podcast, Furkhan is joined by Lizbeth De Sa, a certified Level 3 Internal Family Systems (IFS) practitioner from Multiple Mind. Together, they dive deep into the fascinating world of IFS, discussing the roles of different internal parts, such as exiles, managers, and firefighters, and their impact on mental health and well-being. Lizbeth shares her journey into IFS, its profound potential for healing, and offers a live demonstration of the therapeutic process. They also explore the spiritual dimensions of IFS and provide practical advice on integrating various modalities like meditation, journaling, and creative expression into daily life. Whether you're new to IFS or looking to deepen your understanding, this episode is a treasure trove of wisdom and practical tips for self-healing and personal growth. Lizbeth De Sa is an Internal Family Systems therapy practitioner, educator, writer, laughter yoga leader, and conflict mediator. She writes and teaches about the multiple mind, applying IFS therapy to life. She is from England, though of Indian descent. She has lived in Japan, Australia, New Zealand, and California. But she now lives in South Carolina. Here are my social media and website links:https://www.multiplemind.com/https://medium.com/@lizbeth.multiplemindhttps://www.youtube.com/@multiplemindIFShttps://www.facebook.com/MultipleMindIFS/https://www.instagram.com/lizbeth_multiplemind/https://www.linkedin.com/in/MultipleMind/ 00:00 Introduction to the Podcast 00:50 Guest Introduction: Elizabeth from Multiple Mind 01:28 Understanding Internal Family Systems (IFS) 03:48 Levels of IFS Practitioner Training 05:19 Exploring the Different Parts in IFS 12:13 Connecting IFS with Spirituality and Daily Practices 14:17 Addressing Resistance and Protector Backlash 16:00 Live IFS Demo: Working Through Childhood Triggers 23:34 Connecting with the Inner Child 25:02 Building Trust and Compassion 27:09 Reassurance and Support 32:22 Integrating the Protector 33:48 Spiritual Connection and Prayer 39:08 Understanding and Healing Exiles 41:59 Final Thoughts and Resources Sponsors of the Podcast: BetterHelp: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠For 10% off your first month of therapy Aura: For a free two-week trial Dookio Mental⁠ NuCalm: for a one-week free trial Descript LeanWorlds Dr. Lewis Nutrition WeInspect Optery Or find Furkhan's Book, Pursuit of Self Love: 30 Uplifting Messages and Reflections. The Kindle version is available on Amazon: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.amazon.ca/Pursuit-Self-Love-Uplifting-Messages-Reflections-ebook/dp/B0C4D1XYL1⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to the EZ Reflections Newsletter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://ez-reflections-newsletter.beehiiv.com/subscribe⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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