Christian Business Success God's Way: Aligning Ambition with Faith for Women Entrepreneurs with Erin Harrigan

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Beautiful friends, welcomeback to Faithfield Woman.
This is your host, Kristen.
Today I am having aconversation around how do we pursue
success God's way?
How do we keep showing up forthe mission or the assignment that
God has for us in whateverseason we're walking through?
It's a great conversation,it's real, it's honest, and I think
it's really uplifting.

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Hi.
Today on the podcast I wouldlike to welcome our guest, Erin Harrigan.
She's a Christian businesscoach and strategist.
She, she's an author and thepodcast host of Redefining Hustle,
Navigating Success as aChristian woman.
Her newest book is calledPursuing Success God's Way.

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And I'm excited for ourconversation because we're going
to talk about building abusiness from a faith perspective.
We're going to talk about allthe things you walk through from
understanding what the worldtells us success is to understanding
that when we follow God's gameplan or business plan, that it looks
different.
But there's so much more peaceand joy and fulfillment in there

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when we stop trying to chaseaccomplishments in the title and
the rank.
So I can't wait to share thiswith you.
So welcome to the show again, Aaron.
Oh, thank you so much forhaving me back.
I just was smiling as you weresaying those things because while
I talk about those topics, youknow, the Lord takes us through seasons
and been in a season recentlywhere he's reminding me that the

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joy and the hope is his, notin the outcomes that I see or don't
see.
So true.
So true.
So for those of you that mightnot know, I had Aaron on about almost
a year and a half ago on thepodcast and that episode, which I
will link in the show notes,was we basically looked at four keys
to Redefining Hustle andanchoring our identity in Christ.

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So today, much like Aaron justmentioned, we're going to talk about,
you know, kind of walkingthrough those seasons and how life
changes, how we have to bereminded that like, she just said,
and I've had to learn thislesson over and over.
It's about being obedient.
It's about continuing to showup and be consistent.
It's not about the outcomes.
I mean, we all want niceoutcomes, but really, we don't always

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know that they can be betterthan we want, but they're not on
our timeline.
Amen.
So I can't wait to talk about this.
So, Erin, why don't you justcatch us up?
What does life look like?
And what are you up to now?
Yeah.
So most recently, Kristen,since the beginning.
Well, since about a year ago,the Lord put it on my heart to write
my next book, which dives alittle deeper into each of those

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four keys that we talked aboutlast time I was on your show.
And so, number one, that bookis not what I thought it would be.
So this is such a greatexample of, like, the Lord gives
you an assignment, you areobedient, and you think it's going
to look one way, and it lookstotally different.
I really expected that I wasgoing to be writing about the nuts

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and bolts of each of thosekeys that we talked about for.
So just to remind everyone,the four keys to redefine hustle
define direct discipline, develop.
So I thought, oh, well, I'mgoing to write about, like, here's
why the Lord is the authorityto define us, and here's how he directs
us, and what does that look like?
And here's.
Here's what your daily actionshould be, to be disciplined and

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etc.
And, man, Kristen, and I knowyou've experienced this, like, you
sit down to be obedient and todo it.
And the Lord takes that obedience.
And sometimes it does look theway you thought it was going to look,
but other times, he shiftsyou, and he, because you're obedient,
you're willing to be shifted, right?

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You're willing to allow himthe margin to do that, and he really
did that.
So as I wrote that contentthat'll be coming out next year with
Redemption Press, man, I justwas blown away.
Like, the depth of the word,the depth of his truth that he took
me into, it took me in suchdifferent directions.

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And then what he had me do asI was writing the book is then turn
that into a masterclass.
Why?
Because, listen, you know, my.
My first book, PursuingSuccess God's Way, talked a lot about
my story, but how do we pursuesuccess, Right?
And what he was revealing tome and has continued to reveal to

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me is that as ambitious women,we're really good at Pursuing.
We're really good at goingafter it.
We're really good atidentifying it and going.
But are we willing to let goof that wheel?
Are we willing to let.
To follow our gps, our greatpositioning Shepherd?

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And therefore, it's reallyabout navigating, which is.
Which is why my podcast is.
Is navigating success as aChristian woman, because the world
throws, like, all thedefinitions at us and all the expectations
at us.
But are we navigating with him leading?
And so that's.

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That's really what I've beenworking on since we last talked.
And it's also something that Imyself am navigating.
Right.
Because sometimes the outcomesdon't look the way we think, or sometimes
we don't even get to see them.
I mean, think about Moses, right?
He didn't even get to go intothe promised land, and that's really
hard for us.

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Absolutely.
Oh, my gosh.
So much good stuff there thatwe're definitely going to dig into
in the next, you know, 30, 40 minutes.
But I have to tell you, evenwhat you just said, which is we don't
always get to see the outcomes.
I mean, there's so manystories, right?
Or then even over manygenerations that people talk about,
you know, they plant the treenot for them, because it's going

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to take how many decades togrow big enough and to produce fruit?
But sometimes what we'reworking on isn't for today, it's
for tomorrow or a year fromnow or five years from now or generations
to come.
And so, one, we don't alwaysget to see the outcomes, much like
when you write a book or youhave a podcast, whatever you might

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do like.
But if you're.
It could just be a conversation.
It doesn't have to besomething in the public purview.
But what happens is we don'tunderstand that people are listening.
People hear what we say, whatwe speak, how we act.
And through that, little seedsare planted.
That's right.
Right.
And so, like you said, we'renot in charge of the outcome.
We're only in charge of our effort.

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And are we listening?
Are we trying to do what.
What God's calling us into indifferent seasons?
Because it's going to changeand it's going to look different.
And any person that's beenalive for a period of time knows
that, right?
Our circumstance change, whatwe're working on, career wise, might
change.
So it's so true what you said.
And so I know we're going todig into that later, too, a little
bit More about outcomes.

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But I guess the first thingI'd ask you is having, you know,
having been where you'rebuilding, right, you're building
for the kingdom.
You have, you know, business,you've written, you have a podcast,
you have a platform, I guess.
What would you first tell us?
If people are listening andeither they're doing the same in
some way or they've thoughtabout it, right?

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They're just trying to figureout, like, well, yeah, but I, I agree.
I'm just afraid, like, I havethis really well paying job, you
know, I have all these thingsand, you know, we've both been there.
I've worked corporate.
I've done, you know, differentthings as well.
But what would you just say toanybody listening that's wondering,
you know, what, what do youmean success looks different, you
know, or.
So what would you say to usabout like, chasing success, how

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the world defines it orsomeone else defines it for us versus
what you've seen and learnedalong your journey?
Yeah, absolutely.
It's.
First of all, it's differentbecause the Lord is so gracious when
he does show us a pathway.
He doesn't have to do that andhe doesn't always do that, right?
So success to the Lord, andthis is something that I learned

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through studying some thingsthat Dr. Charles Stanley wrote is
about our relationship.
What he wants is our whole heart.
What he wants is all of us, right?
And so successful success asthe Lord defines it is really about
your relationship with Him.
What he does then is he giveseach of us gifts and talents that

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he then gives us assignments,or I think author Kara Stott calls
it commissions to walk outthose gifts and talents and to make
impact in the kingdom.
So success to him is reallyabout giving ourselves over to him,
giving him our whole heart,being fully surrendered, listening
for him, seeking him along the way.

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What we've been taught successis in a human context is the achievement,
the title, the income, thefollowers, you know, all of these
supposedly measurable things.
The problem with those thingsis not that we want them in our life.
The problem is twofold.

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One is that we tend to idolize them.
So we put all of our energyand effort and focus into reaching
these milestones.
So they in some ways become idols.
And the second issue is theyare temporal, so they can change
at any time.
You know, if you've ever lost a.
Job.

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You may have been reallysuccessful, but you have no control
over that, right?
You can do all the rightmarketing things and not have anybody
buy your program.
And so if we're constantlychasing success as the world defines
it, versus okay, Lord, youmade me.
You know what my gifts are?
What is my assignment, and howdo I do that?

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We will be ultimatelyfulfilled only by Christ.
So while we may achieve theseworldly things, and again, there's
nothing wrong with thatachievement that can never fully
fulfill us.
So to the person who's like,well, how do I know that what I'm
doing?
Like, I feel that the Lordgave me this assignment and I'm doing

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it, and I'm not seeing theresult or the person who's like,
I really feel like I'msupposed to write a book, but I'm
afraid to step out there.
When fear enters the picture,I truly believe it's because we're
concerned more about us thanbeing obedient to what he's told
us to do.
If he's told you to write thatbook and you're seeking him every

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step of the way, even in thefear, even in saying, lord, I'm afraid,
show me he is faithful tobring the pieces together or make
the introductions or give youthe content.
You know, I came into writingmy next book very.
It's my fourth book.
Like, I know how to do this.
I'm the expert.
Right.

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But he wanted to godifferently, and I had to be surrendered
to that.
And when he started to show mewhat he wanted me to write, I was
like, that is not.
Like, I'm not an expert onthat scripture.
But he continued to say, Ifelt in my spirit, like, it's not
about you.
Right?
It's not about you.

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Yeah.
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah.
And I mean, being that you.
We are both in.
In a area where we have to putourselves out there.
And like you said, I amsurely, you know, I haven't at this
point gone to seminary oranything like that.
And so.
Right.
Like, all the time.
I'm sure we have those.
Those moments where, you know,doubt will seep in or comparison

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because it's human nature, youknow, like.
Like you said, like, oh, wow,what are my metrics compared to someone
else's?
When it's not.
We're not in a race.
Right.
But to your point is we allexperience doubt and fear and having
to pivot.
And like you said, it's.
It's really like, where are wegoing to make these choices?
Where are we going to try tofeel confident that we're stepping

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in, doing the things thatwe're called to do?
Like you said in this seasonfor this commission, for this assignment?
So I think that's so true.
And like you said, everyonehas fear, for sure.
Well, and that's one thingthat I just wanted to say is that
please hear me.
I have not overcome thesethings and I will never overcome
these things fully.

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Well, let me step back.
I am chosen and redeemed.
You were chosen and redeemed.
Your listeners are right.
So we don't have to live inthat way.
We can walk in the truth ofwho Jesus says we are and that he
died to give us.
Right.
I now look at thoseopportunities of doubt, of fear,

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etc.
As another opportunity to turnback to him.
I think that we.
We want to think well, for ifwe're obedient and we're allowing
the Lord to lead us, we'llnever have those thoughts.
But instead, the Lord alreadyknows we're human.
I believe he allows us, youknow, he could take over our minds,

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but he doesn't because hewants to give us a choice.
We have free will.
I think those are suchopportunities and, and almost tests
of faith to turn us back to Him.
Yeah.
Yeah, absolutely.
So what about.
You talk a lot about so manythings in your book that are really
great.
But what about how do we.

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From a faith perspective, aswe're building something, or we're
just going into a new season.
Right.
Maybe it's just a new career,but you don't have a business.
But overcoming obstacles andthen just.
And then after that, I want totalk about just the.
You talk about beingmisaligned and then learning to kind
of take on which we.
What we just talked about,like his assignment.
And so what would you justshare with us about, first of all,

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the overcoming obstacles?
Well, first it's accepting thefact that obstacles exist and they
will.
Yeah.
There is no perfect path there.
I don't, I don't care whoyou're following.
I don't care what money theymake or how big their audience or
there are obstacles.
You may never see those obstacles.

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One thing that I love aboutbeing a Christian business coach
and then being surrounded bypeople like you and others who are
pouring into, you know, ourassignment is pouring into our sisters
in Christ is that we're pretty vulnerable.
Like, we're pretty willing toshare that, that it's sometimes difficult.
Right.
And I think you don't alwayssee that on.
From.
From some business gurus thatare on stages.

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So first of all, there aregoing to be obstacles, period.
Second of all, the Lord is your.
The Lord has gone before you.
So these obstacles are nosurprise to Him.
They're not disappointments to him.
He's already made a waythrough them.
So overcoming those obstacles,I, I think is naming the obstacle,

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like, what is it really?
And taking that before theLord and saying, lord, this looks
like an obstacle.
Show me how.
Show me how to work it throughthis or around it.
So often I think we think wegotta bust down the wall or we gotta
go around it or we gotta goover it when the only way is through.

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So name the obstacles, takethat before the Lord and okay, Lord,
how do I embrace this butremain steadfast in you?
And then show me how to workthrough this or how to even leverage
it.
That, to me is aboutovercoming obstacles.
That is different, Kristen,than knowing to the core that God

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has given you an assignmentand you're digging in your heels
like a toddler and saying, no,that's different than moving ahead.
If you're not experiencingsome kind of obstacles, I would argue
that you're standing still andthe Lord's already said go and you're
not going.
Right?
So true, isn't it?
Oh, my gosh.

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Yeah.
And so one thing aboutobstacles, I think also sometimes
we experience an obstacle or asetback, whatever we want to call
it, you know, they can be different.
But part of it is, is thatwe're trying to tackle something
too big at one moment, right?
And we need to break it downbecause like today I might not be
able to do my.
This one objective I have inthis one day, but I might be able

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to take one little hit at it, right?
One bite, one little.
But so that obstacle might beso big, right?
It might be such a God sizedthing that he's asking someone to
do, but it's not going tohappen on our own.
So we have to go to otherpeople or it's not going to happen
in a day.
It might take us years, right?
I mean, we don't know.
So I think partly it's that wehave to have a new perspective on

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it, right?
We have to think, like, I justneed to write like that consistency,
like I just have to movetowards it, work a little bit.
You know, he's not saying thatwe're going to, we're going to knock
through it today.
The whole thing, it's that wehave to just be moving in that direction
like you said, and notstanding still.
You know, I love that youbrought that up, Kristen, because
what comes to mind for me isthat sometimes the obstacle is we're

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overachieving or we'reoverwhelmed because we think there's
so many steps and then wedon't Take one single small step.
What comes to mind for me isat our church, we have a large.
The church I attend is a verylarge church here in Calver County,
Maryland.
It's been through a lot ofchange over the last few years.

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And there is one woman who hasbeen contending for a women's ministry.
Now, she's been at thischurch, I don't know, 15 or 20 years.
For 10 years, the Lord has.
It has tarried.
Right?
It.
It.
She's been waiting.
She's been waiting.

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She's been waiting, but was always.
And we may never know all thereasons why, but there was, like,
obstacle after obstacle after obstacle.
But Elena was steadfast in that.
This is the vision the Lordhas given me.
Okay, Lord, if it's not goingto happen now, what is one thing
I can do?
Oh, I can teach that class orI can gather this small group.

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So on Monday night this weekhere in August, we had our first
women's ministry gathering,like, to kick it off.
And she stood in tears at thefront of the room and said, this
is a vision that's taken 10 years.
Right.
But she never wavered in hertrust and she never wavered in her

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willingness to do the small things.
Sometimes I think our obstacleis we've overthought it, and so we
think it's bigger than it is.
Or the Lord has said, do thisone thing.
And we say, but if I multiplythat by three, I could do three things.
And he's like, no, no, no, Iasked you to do one.

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And so I think sometimes we'retrying, like you said, to operate
in our own strength and push aboulder when all he wants us to do
is move a pebble.
Oh, absolutely.
I mean, I definitely, with thepodcast, I mean, I still have more
than one, but this is the primary.
I'll say the primary one.
And so many times, you know, Ican get caught up in the like, oh,

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you know, oh, it's this big.
And don't get me wrong, it'snot that it's teeny, but it's not
as big.
It's not compared to peoplethat are having millions of downloads
at this point, you know, andno, not that I'm trying to get to
a certain thing, but anytime Istart having a thought, I'm like,
oh, my gosh, hold on.
Why do we think that it's nothaving impact still, which we know

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the things we're doing are itGod's having impact is what I should
say.
But, you know, then you lookback and you look at like, how many
people from differentcountries, how many different countries
have it impacted?
Countries that don't evenallow Christianity.
Like, those might be smallnumbers in those countries, but it's
like, I have to, like yousaid, sometimes I'm so close to it
that I have blinders on and Ihave to, I have to come back to get

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my vision or my lens refocusedto see a bigger picture, picture
that God is painting that Ican't see in the day to day, episode
to episode.
And it's exactly what you'resaying, which is, we already said
this, but it really is aboutbeing consistent and obedient.
It's not about me saying,like, but today I didn't reach 100,000
people.

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Or, I mean, not near thatnumber per episode.
But you should say so I haveto remind myself, like, I'm doing
the work, I'm impacting people.
But for some reason we want,we get caught in the world where
we see these people withbigger numbers and bigger metrics
that have a bigger platformthan I might.
And then we, we can get caughtin that thinking.
Like you said, like, oh, I'mnot building it big enough or fast

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enough.
But he never said that I couldbuild bigger or faster.
Right.
He said, just, just do what Iasked you to do and give glory to
me.
That's what he called me to do.
That part, that part right there.
He never told you X, right?
I do the same thing.
I'm a podcaster and I lookaround and I'm like, how did that
person hit a hundred thousand downloads?
And they've been.

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I've been podcasting for sixand a half years and I'm like, at
40, right?
Yeah.
So it's really easy for us toget caught up in that.
And I want to share two things.
The first thing is we don'tever see the full impact and that
we can be changing oneperson's life.

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I know you probably get thissometimes, as I do, where you just
have this random person reachout to you and say, I just listened
to your episode and it hasmade such a difference in my day.
Or.
Or whatever that is.
Right.
And that doesn't happen everyday and it doesn't happen 150 times
a day.
Right.
It might happen once a year,but you know that you've impacted

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a life.
I love what you said aboutthis is reaching people in countries
where Christianity and itcould even be outlawed, where they
could be persecuted for listening.
Right.
I mean, come on, the power in that.
And the second thing is we can get.
So I've been saying this a lot lately.

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If we turn our phone fromselfie mode to landscape with Jesus
as the focal point.
Right.
We're so.
We're so like, me, me, me, me, me.
We wouldn't say, me, me, me.
Right.
We wouldn't say that.
But it's true when we'rethinking about things like that.

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Because do we need to have aneye toward measurement to make sure
that our business is moving forward?
Yes.
But forward by what?
Metric?
That's right.
Yeah.
Oh, that's so good.
Yeah.
And just two things I wouldadd to that, you know, for anybody.
Like, I said that whether.
Whether you're just.
I don't mean just as a wordlike that.
Like, whether you're workingin a church, just as a volunteer,

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whether you're in ministry,whether it's just that you're a part
of your community or teaching kids.
Right.
Whatever you do, or you'rebuilding something.
Right.
Like.
Or you're writing a book.
Too many of us, like you said, 1.
We forget that we only have toimpact one person.
Right.
We're only here to.
To put out the message.
And I think Mark Battersontalks about that.

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Like, sometimes we feel calledto do something.
And I remember he said he.
There was some scripture very.
When he was much younger thathe heard, and it was something God
told him.
It was something like, he'llimpact the nations.
And it wasn't until he hadwritten several books that one of
his friends or pastor friendsor somebody had said, like, your
books are literally written inmultiple, many languages.

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Like, they're.
And he goes, I never realized,like, he's a pastor in D.C. which
is also of all the nations.
Right.
But he's like, I never wasconnecting the dots, but, like, I
was already doing what Godsaid I was gonna do.
Because sometimes we don't see it.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Like, that's why.
And we think it's gonna look acertain way.
That's right.
The outcome thing.

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Yeah, It's.
It's definitely a hard thingto let go of, to surrender.
Yes.
So what else would you tell us?
I. I love one of the thingsyou talk about is.
Well, we sort of talked aboutthis, but, like, like you said, the
Met, we're gonna have to havemetrics and measurements a little
bit if we're buildingsomething or even if we're not.
Like, even if you're in amarriage or you're raising children,

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like, at some point, you'relike, is my marriage growing or thriving?
Is it not getting stagnant or worse.
Right.
Like, whatever it is, there'sgoing to be a something we're looking
at.
Yeah, but what I like is thatyou talk about his measurement.
So what else would you tell us?
I mean, we sort of alluded tothat already, but is there anything
else about being the steward,like you talked about earlier, of

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our gifts and our talents?
Is there anything more you'd add?
Yeah, I would add.
So often we either have giftsand talents, and we're like, yeah,
I know.
I'm good at that.
And so we're willing to putour time and energy into that.
I think sometimes we have somegifts and talents that he gives us.
I was meeting with a clientlast week.
We were doing her strategicplanning, and she said, one of my

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spiritual gifts is encouragement.
And she was like, I don't liketo encourage people.
Like, get off your butt and godo the thing.
Like, why do you need me toapplaud you?
And so are we going to trustthat what he's given us, he is true?
And are we going to ask himhow to steward that?

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Right.
We think we know.
I just did a podcast this weekabout the disciples in the boat.
And I see.
I see it as two separate stories.
Like, there's the one wherethe storm raises up, and, you know,
the Lord is in the boat andhe's sleeping, and they're like,
what are you doing?
And then he calms the wind andthe waves.
And then I see it as a secondseparate story that he's not in the

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boat with them and he comes alongside.
And this is the opportunityfor Peter to walk on water.
Now, please remember, thereare what?
James, John, Peter, Andrew,There are at least four fishermen
on this boat.
You know that they'venavigated a boat.
You know that they've been onthe Sea of Galilee.

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It says in the Word, come on,Holy Spirit.
It says in the Word that thestorms rise up out of nowhere.
One of my clients doesinternational travel, and she's like,
I've been on the sea when astorm comes out of nowhere, okay?
So these are fishermen.
They are experts.
You think they know he hasgifted them.
And yet.
And yet they're freaking outbecause of the storm.

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On one hand, they're freakingout, but Jesus is sitting, laying
right there, right?
And then the second time, theyfreak out like they already experienced
the last time.
You know what I'm saying?
And so my point is, like, wehave these gifts and talents, and
we think that they have to beused in a certain way, but Then we
run into an obstacle, we runinto a storm, and.
And we're immediatelyscrambling to make it all fit back

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together or figure out how toget through it.
And the Lord's like, but Iknow, like, I'm gifted with administration.
I'm really good at organizingthings, and.
And yet I'll be in the middleof working on a project with a client,
and I'm like, I don'tunderstand how these pieces fit together.
And the Lord is like, really?

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Really?
Yeah.
Let us remember that.
He Every perfect.
Every perfect.
I'm going to misquote it.
Gift is from the Lord.
What he has gifted you to dois for kingdom impact.
It's not about you.
It's for kingdom impact.
So how are you not stewardingthose gifts?
Or have you been stewardingthose gifts and now he's calling

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you in another direction andyou're so comfortable.
Yes.
That.
That you're not.
You're like, I don't think Iwant to be shifted.
Yeah.
But yet there's somethingdifferent that he wants or some other
person that he wants you to reach.
So it really all comes back tosurrender and obedience.
Absolutely.

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Yeah.
Well, what about that?
So what about obedience and listening?
Because I. I love readingstories, and a lot of my.
Not that the Bible obviouslyhas stories in there as well about
some of this stuff, butthere's so many Christian authors
that I love reading or pastorsthat share stories like this where,
you know, you hear that littlequiet voice and someone continues

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further or drives somewhereelse or kept walking, whatever it
is, and they.
They encounter a divine, youknow, conversation, appointment,
whatever you want to call it.
But.
Right.
And so, like, what would you.
What would you share with usabout that as you worked with clients
and.
But just the listening.
Well, you know, and kind ofcontinuing to do that because I think
it is easy, to your point,like, nope, I have my assignment.

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I'm going to keep doing whatI'm doing.
And he.
He shifts things quite a bit,you know.
And so what'd you share about that?
I very often will hear aclient or even someone I'm not working
with yet, a sister in Christ,say, I don't hear from the Lord.
What I actually hear them sayis, I don't hear from the Lord like
you do.

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Yeah.
One of the things that it justso fascinates me and gives me chills
to think about is that theLord is so intentional and specific
and unique in how hecommunicates with every single one
of his children.
And so how you hear from theLord or Experience that is different

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than me and, and someone else, etc.
I think it was a PriscillaSchreier Bible study, or I. I think
it actually is her bookDiscerning the Voice of God.
And she talks about all thedifferent ways that people experience
Him.
Maybe it's in a song, maybeit's in a conversation, maybe it's
in their quiet time, etc.
The key point is this one isthat we have to slow down or get

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quiet enough to hear.
Yeah.
And that includes where am Ispending my time, who am I spending
my time with, what am Ifilling my time with?
Because if the Lord wants tospeak to you through conversations
with others, are you puttingyourself in places where there are

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other discerning children of God?
If he speaks to you throughmusic, then what are you listening
to in the car?
If he speaks to you throughscripture, are you spending time
in Scripture?
Right.
We've gotta.
We've gotta position ourselvesto hear.
We've gotta.

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We've gotta slow down andallow that.
That space to hear.
And we've gotta accept that weare very unique individuals.
We're all made in the image ofGod, but He's made every single one
of us different.
He's given every single one ofus different gifts.
We may have some of the samegifts, but the way that he administers
those are different.
So therefore, he's going tospeak to us differently.

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And often when I hear someonesay, I feel like I'm walking through
a dark place and God isnowhere to be found, or I. I can't
find him or I can't hear him,my question is often, what was the
last thing you heard him say?
And were you obedient to that?

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And then secondly, maybe youare lying in bed all day under the
covers and not willing to getup and walk.
Have you turned on worship music?
Have you turned to the Wordand just laid it and said, show me
where to go.
Right.
Because he will speak to youwhen you ask.

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And I'm not saying thatdepression and anxiety and all the
things aren't, you know, realfor someone.
All I'm saying is I believethat we think we don't hear him and
it's because we're not makingspace to hear Him.
Yeah.
Well, it reminds me, you know,I won't go through the whole parable

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story.
I mean, it's.
It's a story, but, you know, it's.
It's.
And I don't know that it wasChristian or.
But it was.
It was based on God, but it'slike somebody's in the boat and their
boat starts leaking, but it'sbasically where like, he's.
All these things are sent.
Yes, it's a life jacket,eventually a helicopter.
But the person in the boatbasically is like, well, no, I'm

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waiting for God to give me a sign.
And all of the things arebasically like a way for him to be
rescued.
But it goes back that wholething about we in our mind have an
idea of how he'll speak to usor how he's going to show up, but
if we are stuck thinking thatit's going to be like a feeling or
auditory, whatever it is,we're gonna miss the other signs

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or if we will only payattention to one thing.
Right.
But it's that whole.
Just like I've seen otherexamples where.
People were like, oh, I'm.
I'm in need of, let's say, acomputer or something.
Right.
For their business.
Like, maybe they're startingup or just in their lives and they
didn't have the money, butthey're like, waiting, like, God,

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please give it to us.
And it's like, well, it didn'tjust magically appear, but then they
had a conversation becausethey put themselves in the conversation
and the person's like, oh, Ihave an extra computer.
I can give you.
Amen.
So sometimes it's.
We have to let people.
It's not just secret.
Being in secret by ourselvesand praying to God always.
Like, we have to be in theworld, in community with other people,
because often God places us toanswer prayers.

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Yes, we're doing his work,even if.
He didn't communicate withboth of us, like, hey, go tell Sarah
Joe, right?
He's.
He's making it.
He's choreographing it ororchestrating it.
But.
But it's because we're wherewe're supposed to go or be that those
things will happen.
Amen.
Two things come up for me inthat, Kristen.
This is so good.

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One is, as women, we arereally not good at asking for help.
True.
But what if.
Let me paint, let me connectthis dot.
Our obedience, regardless ofwhat it is, I believe is always connected
to someone else's blessing.
God has given us something todo because someone else is going

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to reap the benefit from that.
And it is up to us to say yes,even if we have no idea.
Right.
And.
And then secondly, because ofthat, who has been that you have
no idea, has been given aninstruction to do something that

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has to do with you, but youhaven't been willing to Open your
mouth and ask for help, right?
Like, this is a perfect example.
So last week, a good friend ofmine was telling me about a family
that she and her husband willoften help, and she said, their electricity
is about to be turned off.

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And I've reached out to myparents and asked if they would be
willing to give.
Now, please know, in themiddle of this, which she didn't
know at the time, is I wasreally struggling around money.
And I.
And I don't mean, like, Ididn't have what I needed, but I
was like, looking so far aheadgoing, but, Lord, what about this?
And what about this?

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And.
And this client, Theircontract ended, and that's like X
dollars that I don't have now,et cetera, et cetera.
So I'm in the middle of, like,my own whirlwind.
And she says this to me.
And I immediately went, I feltin my spirit, go pay that bill.

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And I was like, really?
I didn't take time tocalculate right, which is rare for
me because I'm all about calculating.
But I, I immediately respondedto her and I was like, can you please
send me the website for that,because I'm going to pay off that
bill.
And she was like, what?
I wasn't asking you that.
And I'm like, you weren'tasking me that.

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But by saying it, the Lordprompted me and I have to be obedient
to go pay that bill.
And again, like, if she.
She didn't say it to me to askfor help, but she just said it.
And, and so my point is, like,who are you not asking for help?
Or.
Or who.

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How are you keeping everythinginside to keep up a front, been there
or not, or afraid to speak up?
Like, hey, do you know anybody that.
Because maybe you think youhave to solve the problem yourself
and see that that is an enemytrick, too.
Because he'll be like, youshould solve this.
Or, well, what do you mean youneed help?

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Why can't you handle this?
So I think we don't giveenough space to ask for help, and
therefore someone else is like that.
It's.
It's all.
You said this earlier.
Like, he's perfectlyorchestrating all the pieces.
That's right, exactly.
He's positioning us.
If we follow that, it's kindof the.

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You know, normally I go tothis gas station, I go to this.
But I, I just felt like, youknow what?
I want to go to this other store.
Like, either because you feltGod prompted you, or you just for
some reason had this, like,idea to do it.
Yeah, do it.
Just do it.
Like, there's usually a reason.
And it might not be that youhave immediate interaction.
It might be that something yousaw, a message.
It might be.
And it might not even be a message.

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It seemed to Faith, butsomething will impact you or someone
else because you showed upthere, even if you don't know it.
And so I don't remember who it was.
Someone that's a well knownChristian voice.
We'll just say a woman.
I don't think it was JennyAllen, but it was someone kind of
like that.
But she was sharing that she had.

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She had gone.
This was earlier in theirlife, I think, but they had gone
through a breakup when theywere younger, but they were just
feeling horrible.
They.
They were on their way homefrom work, and they're like, I'm
just gonna go get, I don'tknow, some sort of fast food or donuts.
And they're just having theworst day.
So they go in, they try to gettheir thing, they're trying to leave,
and this woman comes in andthey're like.

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Or she's like, I should say not.
They.
Like, she got that prompting,like, you should say something to
her.
But, you know, whoever this,like, person that I follow online
was like, I don't really want to.
I'm having a bad day.
And so they go to their carand they kept having that, yeah,
voice of the spirit, like, youneed to go back.
And so they open their door,they're really trying to leave.

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They're like, no, you know, Idon't want to do this.
And so they get in their car.
She gets in her car, and she's like.
Then she realizes, I have to.
I have to go back.
I don't want to go back.
I.
So she goes back and just asksthe woman, like, hey, maybe the woman
was crying, I think.
And she's like, hey, are you okay?
Like, do you need anything?
And anyway, so they talked.
The woman's like, I'm fine.
Like, no, I. I don't need you.

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You know, maybe she said, doyou want me to pray with you?
And she might have even said, no.
But later, the, the.
Whoever posted this said, youknow, at first I was like, well,
God, why did you even want meto go back?
Like, she didn't even want prayer.
She didn't want me to pay for anything.
Like, she didn't need help orshe didn't want my help.
And.
And at first you can be frustrated.
The outcome, like, why did youmake me go back?

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Like, I didn't want to.
I'm having a rough day.
But on further reflection, sherealized I might have been one of
the first encounters thisperson had with being Christ in the
world.
And it might not be till her10th encounter that this woman comes
further towards Christ.
But sometimes we think we'regoing to be like, the person or the

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thing where everything changesfor somebody, or it's so huge.
Or maybe we do something nicefor somebody and they're not nice
back to us, and we want to belike, but I did what you said, Lord.
But that's really not what He's.
He's not saying, like, they'regonna pat you on the back and cheers
you.
He's saying, I'm asking you tobe obedient for you to show up.
And I think that's the pointis because we're worried about the

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outcome or how we areperceived in.
In the.
In the circumstance.
Instead of, did I do what Godwanted me to do?
Amen.
Amen.
Just have to keep focused on that.
That's so such a powerful story.
And.
And, you know, every time I doa strategy day with a client, we're
really, like, taking all theideas and opportunities out of their

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head, and they're mapping itout and talking about their services
and the pricing and their workrhythms and how do they, you know,
harmonize that with their family?
All Holy Spirit led.
But every time I say to them,the Holy Spirit has led us through
this exercise, and you canlook around the room and see all
the flip charts that.
That we've written on today.

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Are you going to be okay tolay this at the foot of the cross
and possibly have the Lordsay, thank you for being obedient
today?
But now I'm taking you thisway, right?
Wait a minute.
I've just put in all this workto put all this in paper, and now
you want to change everything?
Like, are we obedient?
To lay that down?

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Because sometimes I. I firmlybelieve that the Lord gives us something
not to test us, but theopportunity to be obedient, especially
when it's out of our comfortzone, especially when we don't want
to get out of the car and dothat, because he just wants to.

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Know.
That we are obedient.
And he.
He wants to.
He wants to flow, flood uswith his lavish grace and his hope
and his love.
Not so we will perform, but hewants to know that we're obedient.
And the second thing you said,which I think is so true, again,

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going back to outcomes, like,we want to know that we had the one
conversation and they gavetheir life to Jesus that day.
But it is not in our power.
Right.
But the beauty of what we haveas Christians in the marketplace
with a mission is that we getto reflect Jesus.
And we may be the onlyexperience of Jesus that that person

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ever gets.
Not everyone that I work withand not everyone that listens to
your podcast, and not everyChristian business owner serves strictly
a Christian audience.
Sure.
Right, Right.
And so if you are a copywriterand you are working with a secular
business, no, you're not goingto go in and change everything that
you're writing to includesecretly Jesus in the words.

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Right.
But what you do get to.
What you do get to bring ishis light.
So when they're in chaos, youget to be the calm.
When they're in peril, you getto be the peace, like, because you
have Jesus.
And who knows, if in thatmoment that person goes, there is

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something different about you.
Tell me what that is.
Right.
We're just here to be hisambassadors and to reflect his light.
And he puts us in places andspaces and through businesses that
allow us to intersect with people.
And so you're right.
Like, yes, she went and said that.
And maybe that person waslike, dude, back off.

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Right.
But now it's planted a seed.
That's right.
And who knows what soil.
Right.
That that seed has landed on.
But, but we were obedient.
Not to be like, haha, I waspart of that journey.
No, no, no.
But to be obedient becauseit's, it's, it's what he deserves
from us, right?

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Yeah, absolutely.
So good.
Okay, so what, what, what elsewould you like to share with us?
Just whether it's from yourbook or things you share in your
podcast that you think willjust encourage and you know, might
be little tidbits that theaudience can take away.
Yeah.
So this week in my email.

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So I do a weekly email, so ifyou're not on my email list, you
can download my devotionalerin harrigan.com devotional and
I just want to share somethingthat I wrote in my email because
I've had a number of peoplecome back to me and say, oh my gosh,
that was so powerful.
And I'm like, okay, well, Ishared it because it's what I just

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walked through.
I was on a long drive last week.
I went to North Carolina to dothis strategy day.
And so I had a lot of timealone with the Lord.
And so you gotta know, like,I'm listening to worship music I
have CC Winans on repeat right now.
But I also took the time toask him some pointed questions.
And the Lord is not afraid ofour pointed questions.

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Okay?
And as I was asking thesequestions, like, okay, here's what
you gave me to do, and I didit, but I'm not seeing the outcomes
that I like.
Nothing seems to be happeningin this space like planting these
seeds, and nothing is coming up.
And.
And here's what he gave me.
I've been recently reading inJohn, and John 7:18 jumps out at

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me because Jesus is being he.
Like, they're questioning his authority.
And he says, the one whospeaks on his own authority seeks
his own glory.
Okay, so there's that selfiemode, right?
But the one who seeks theglory of him who sent him is true,
and in them there is no falsehood.
And what he laid on my heartis, if you are seeking to glorify

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me and you're doing what I'vegiven you to do, don't question if
you're an imposter, don'tquestion, did I do it the right way?
Don't question, like, arepeople really going to listen to
me?
Right.
I hear that a lot from women,and these are very successful women
who are like, but.
But who am I to stand in this space?

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And I'm like, God put you inthe space.
The point is, you are not an imposter.
So I know imposter syndrome.
Like, I get it.
It's there.
We're looking left and right,even though he tells us not to do
that.
But I feel like this scripturehere said to me, like, if you are
doing what glorifies the Lord,there is nothing false about you.

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You are not an imposter.
That's right.
Yeah.
I love that.
So I haven't shared this inquite a while on the podcast, but
I'll just share it real quickand then we'll jump into the last
question or two.
But.
So when I had first startedthis podcast, first it was called
Spark of Faith.
And when I first did thefirst, I don't know, let's say six

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episodes, I don't recall whatit was, under 10, for sure.
I had had the other podcast,building a life you love for six
months or eight months priorto starting this one.
But I kept feeling that promptto start a Christian podcast.
The other one would talk about faith.
Somebody was.
It's not.
It wasn't a faith only podcastor Christian only podcast.
So I'm laying in bed onemorning, and my husband, he was still

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in bed, but I was awake and Iwas thinking about the podcast.
I hadn't told a soul that Ihad start.
Had started this one yet.
Right.
Like, it was just my thing.
It was because I was trying tobe faithful, but I wasn't really
ready.
I wasn't really sure about all this.
So this is, you know, a couple.
I think I've done this one forthree years or somewhere in there,
something like that.
Three something.
So it was.
This was probably December,several years back, December, January.

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And I. I'm laying therethinking about the podcast and literally,
my husband's.
He's still.
He uses his phone for analarm, but he also uses alarm clock.
And he has two alarms.
One's always beep, beep, beep.
Actually, both of them areusually that, right.
On an old school alarm clock.
On a very rare occasion, musicwill come through, but it's not normally
Caleb or anything.
It's like some I don't even know.

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And it's normally fuzzybecause it's in between channels
because he's not usually rightout of as Clear as day.
It came on and it said, giveglory to God.
And it turned off, I guess,clear as day.
A man's voice, no music.
And I was like, what was that like?
Seriously?

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I was like, holy cow.
Like, I've never had anythinglike that happen before or since.
And it was like, okay.
I think I was just told themarching orders, like, don't.
Because I think I had grappled with.
I've always been a person of faith.
Like, I grew up in faith.
Like, sure.
But I.
For a long time when I workedin corporate and before I started

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my own stuff this time, Ialways felt like faith or part of
me was compartmentalized.
And obviously I was feelingmore called to talk, you know, write
and talk about my faith.
But it was like, when I heardthat message, like, I already knew
I needed to talk about myfaith, but it was like God was very
clear.
Like, you need to keeppointing people back to me.

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And I was like, okay, Lord, Igot the message.
I was like, yeah, okay.
Because, you know, I was.
I wasn't grappling with like,do I give glory to God?
I was grappling with like, isthis the right thing?
Should I really be doing that?
Like, is this what I do?
And it was very clear.
It was like, that is whatyou're supposed to be doing, you

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know, and whatever you do.
Of course he asked us to do that.
But anyway, so I only sharethat because, yes, Absolutely.
It's about pointing peopleback to him, not us.
Yeah.
Yes.
Yes.
Even when it's hard or evenwhen sometimes we can get pulled
out of that a little bit, youknow, at least a little bit, because
it's so easy to.
In the environment and theculture we live in.

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Oh, yeah.
No.
Oh, yeah.
I love it.
Okay, so any last things thatyou want to share before I ask you
a final question?
No.
Bring on the question.
So the last question is reallyjust a fun one.
It's really just what isfueling you up right now?
Like at the end of, you know,we're in August, wrapping up summer.
So it can be something faith based.

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It can be business.
It can be a fun thing.
It can be multiple things, butjust, you know, just.
It's fun to ask and hear that from.
From our guests.
Yeah.
What's fueling me right now?
It's actually a personal thing.
So I've recently written achapter for a collaborative book,
and it's on.
It's called Kids Learn theDarndest Things.

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And it's a.
The chapter is.
And it's, you know, basically,like, what do your kids learn from
you being in business?
What's fueling me right now iswatching my adult daughters navigate
life.
I have one getting closer toher relationship with Jesus.
I have one who doesn't believeand still watching them navigate

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job change, navigatenegotiating salaries.
The two of them are verydifferent people, and they've never
had a close relationship.
But my older daughter isgetting married next May, and my
younger daughter is her maidof honor.
So watching them come togetherand have conversations about, like,
this is what we want theshower to be like.

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And that, you know.
Yeah.
That it.
It's fueling me so muchbecause it's this really interesting
season where I'm seeing mykids live out the things that I've
taught them, the things thatthey've caught that I didn't teach.
Right.
And prayerfully, the.
The Lord guiding them.
And it also is a reallyinteresting season because I know

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shortly after my daughter getsmarried, I don't know if it'll be
six months or a year.
I know that she wants to havea baby.
And so I'm like.
I'm like staring down grandma,which, by the way, is my exit strategy
for my business.
So I'm kind of like, wow,like, what am I going to do over

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these next two to three yearsand be obedient to you, Lord?
So that is really fueling me.
The idea of legacy is reallyfueling me right now.
Not Just.
And because there are times, Idon't know if you have this, Kristen,
but there are times where I'mlike, can I shut all this down now?

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And I think, well, you'vegiven me this next book that's coming
out next year, but what if youcall me to shut this all down?
And again, it's that idea of legacy.
It's not about me and whatAaron does with the book, and it's
about the path that it takeswomen on beyond me writing.

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And I think of all theincredible works that you've probably
read, I'm Walking Through MyUtmost for His Highest by Oswald
Chambers.
He has long since gone to bewith the Lord.
But that is legacy, right?
And I don't need a platformlike that.
That's not what I mean.
But just like what am I doingnow that in my obedience that that

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is blessing someone else forthe long haul?
Absolutely.
Well, yeah, I mean, it's.
Right.
It's kind of what, what Ialluded to earlier, which is it's
what are we doing now forfuture generations?
That can be what we write.
It can be, of course,investing in people, right.
In relationships.
Like it's.
Sometimes it's just writingsomething down for our actual families.

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It can be anything, right?
It can be, it can bedocumenting just family history.
I mean, it can be so many things.
Right?
Like, so absolutely.
I love that and I'll justshare just because I think it.
It's much like we talked aboutbeing vulnerable like you talked
about.
How we are in these spaces, Ithink is so important and being real
and being honest.

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And So I have three sons, 18to 23, and I'm in a similar boat
as far as where they are withtheir faith.
One is like wanting to dig in,one is questioning his faith and.
But very like researchoriented, legalistic about it.
And like.
Well, how can.
Well, what can you tell methat would prove this to me?

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You know, and so they're kindof all in three different places
and you know, lots of prayersover them all the time for everything
they walk through and thatthey will get to where, you know,
and how God wants to use them.
But, you know, so I only sharethat because, you know, there's many
people that are like, oh, mykids, yeah, they're all Christians
and everybody's.
But like, that's not where myI find my kids at.
Right?
They're all at different places.
And you know, and I also knowthat you can't force that on people.

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We all have our own journeys.
Even though they wereIntroduced to, you know, God and
having a relationship ortrying to.
When they were young, youknow, maybe there was a time when
as they got older that itwasn't just because things happen
with COVID and things.
So they weren't as in that practice.
But I only share that to justsay, look, two of us who are literally

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here to encourage women towork with people, all these things.
We are both have families withyoung adult or adult children that
are walking through,questioning their faith.
They're trying to figure itout and find their way on their faith
journey.
So I just want to justacknowledge that because I think
it's important that a lot ofpeople walk through this with their
adult children.

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And, you know, it's just, itis, you know, it, it's just a reflection
of the world and the times as well.
Oh, yeah.
But anyways, I just wanted toshare that because I think sometimes
people don't hear us.
I mean, I have probably talkedabout that before, but not a lot.
And I think it's important,right, to just say, like, look, you
know, if you're, if you'rewalking through something like this,

(55:26):
like, you're not alone.
You know, just like we want tofix the outcomes on everything or
know the outcomes.
You know, it's the same withour children.
Of course, we would all lovecertain things to be perfect for
them and, you know, maybetheir faith to be growing and wonderful,
but, you know, we have to letthem go through their journey of
figuring it out for themselvesto some extent.
Yeah.
Yeah.

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So that's what's, that'swhat's, you know, exciting for me
right now.
I love it.
That's.
That's amazing.
It is beautiful to watch ourkids as they flourish and, and yeah,
maybe take a step back as theyflourish and grow.
But they're learning, right?
They're.
They're creating their ownbeautiful lives, which is pretty
beautiful to watch.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay, so Erin, can you sharewith everybody where can they find

(56:08):
out about your books, yourpodcast, and, you know, just how
women work with you?
And then the, you know, youmentioned the, the devotional.
Devotional, yes.
Yeah.
People find all that goodstuff, so find me@erinharrigan.com.
that's the best place.
And if you do want to join myemail list, you can download my five
day audio devotional.
So Erin harrigan.com devotional.

(56:28):
But my website is where you'llfind my books, my podcast, how to
Work with Me, all the good stuff.
Awesome.
Well, thank you for coming onand joining us today.
Talking about, you know,following Jesus, trying to pursue,
you know, step into our giftsand talents for his kingdom, for
his good, and not justpursuing what the world tells us,

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successes and just sharingyour heart with us today.
Thank you, Kristen.
It's been an honor.
Thanks.
As we wrap up today's episode,I just wanted to share a couple other
tidbits with you that spoke tome and I thought really related well
to this episode.
The first is by my friendRebecca Float from her book Own youn
Brush.
She says, remember how wetalked about seeds?

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Every moment of your life is a seed.
You're either planting seedsfor your vision of what you want
or you are planting seeds ofdoubt that your dreams will not happen.
Every moment you don't investin your future, you are doubting
what could and will happen.
Dream large and take action.
Creativity reigns in what isavailable to you now.
Don't wait for your dreams tocome to you.
Use what you have and startplanting for your future.

(57:32):
Okay.
I love that she is an artist.
She's also an entrepreneur andI think now she is also a real estate
agent.
But she's continuing to goafter her dreams and pursue bigger
and more things.
The next thing that I wantedto share with you is Mark Patterson's
Draw the Circle.
And he says the plans of Godare only revealed in the presence

(57:55):
of God.
We don't get our marchingorders until we get on our knees.
But if we hit our knees, Godwill take us places we never imagined
going by paths we didn't evenknow existed.
Another thing he says in thatsame book is people ask, what should
I circle?
We're talking about prayers here.
And he says the purpose ofprayer is to get into God's presence

(58:16):
so he can outline his agendafor us.
God will reveal a promise,problem, or person, then circle whatever
God has prompted you to prayfor with the same kind of consistency
with which the earth circlesthe sun.
And you know, I think thatthat was really relevant because
it's much about what we talkedabout about we will have encounters
if we kind of follow where Godis leading us and we are actually

(58:40):
moving in the world.
And then what I wanted toshare is by Bob Goff in his devotional
book called Catching whimsy.
It's from January 21st and itsays, don't limit what God can do
in and through you with yourmagnificent One in history combination
of gifts and abilities.
And don't worry about havingit all figured out in advance.

(59:02):
You'll connect the dots as you go.
How good is that and howrelated is it to what we talked about,
about using our gifts andtalents in the world and for the
kingdom.
I loved that.
And I wanted to wrap upsharing this other, I guess quote
from the Catch and Whimsy Devotional.
It says, Is faith easy?

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Of course not.
Will we know all the moves tomake and when to make them 100 times?
No.
The reason is simple.
We're looking through themirror dimly rather than faking it
and pretending you haveclarity on things you are only guessing
about.
Bring those things to Jesusand ask him to help you work through
them.
And I thought that was sorelevant to what we talked about,
which is oftentimes we don'tknow everything.

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We don't know the path.
We're not going to know thewhole path.
But we can ask others for help.
We can ask others for guidance.
But of course we need to takeit all to him, right?
He's the one that's going tohelp us get clear.
He's the one that's going tohelp us see more clearly if we are
on the mission that he iscalling us into in this season.

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So I wanted to let you know,if you haven't already joined my
email newsletter, head over toKristinFitch.com and you can grab
one of my free downloads.
One of them is called Creatinga life you love and it will really
help you get clear on yourpriorities and your values so that
you can step into tomorrow andthe next years to really establish
your legacy and what it is youwant to be doing in the world.

(01:00:32):
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