October 27, 2024 • 48 mins
This is a re-release of a really fascinating ep with astrologer Natasha Weber!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Get a I'm Lola Berry, nutritionist, author, actor, TV presenter,
and professional oversharer. This podcast is all about celebrating failure
because I believe it's a chance for us to learn,
grow and face our blind spots. Each week, I'll interview
a different guest about their highs as well as their lows,
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all in a bid to inspire us to furiously fail.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Hello, my gangles.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Today on the pod, we have the beautiful Natasha Weber.
She's just got a book out and it's called Your
Celestial Compass and.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
It is beautiful.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
It's astrology for self discovery and empowerment. Now, this episode
is a re release. We spoke i want to say,
a year and a half ago and she was unreal,
unflipping real incredible.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
And we've just got off of Zoom.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Right now and done a second interview all around her
book and around the energy around the end of the year.
And so I said to the boss Acheno, that's my
word for Matt that I was like, let's bring out
Natasha's first episode. So that's what you're getting this week.
Next week you're going to get the interview that.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
We literally just got off and did so.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Enjoy You're going to have two episodes, two astrology episodes,
so enjoy today's we record this a little while ago,
and then next week's is the brand, brand new, freshy
all around her book. The book is officially available now,
so go to your favorite bookstore, go out and grab it.
And you're supporting a wonderful human as well. So I
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hope you love it. And you probably would already know
Natasha if you watch Tali. She does all the horoscopes
on Tally Rights for seven News horoscopes like incredible human being,
so warm, so lovely, and she make this is the
thing that's so exciting about it this chat. She makes
it so easy to understand and get your head around
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because there is a mathematical kind of like science inside
to astrology and just makes it so easy to digest.
So hope you love this chat. Hope you love next
week's chat as well. Natasha Webber, you're phenomenal, my friend.
Welcome to the pod. Natasha Webber, astrologer, podcaster, and I'm
going to say it, mate TV personality.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I've seen you on the tally.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Thank you so much, beautiful to be here.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
I'm really looking forward to this chat. I've got so
many questions. I first of all, I want to know
what an astrologer does. I know this sounds like really,
I'm just going to ask you a few simple questions
because I want to learn myself.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Well, there are different astrologers that do different things, for
a start, but basically, I guess you could say we
read the language and interpret the language of the stars.
So that for me that entails always calculating an astrology chart,
and that is using the location and a time and
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a date of a specific event or a person.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Were you impressed on my exact time of birth? I
was down to the minute, mate.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Yes, because it's not easy and a lot of people
struggle with that. And you can still read a chart
if you don't have the exact time of birth, but
you do miss out on a lot of the detail.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Yeah, because I remember when your message, I was like
nine forty three am.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Yeah, exactly when it was. So what is so a chart?
Is you need all those things?
Speaker 1 (03:35):
So you need location, the date, and the exact time,
and then is it what the planets are doing at
that point in time?
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Yes, so when you punch that into your astrology software,
as you know, an astrology does mind you I in
my learnings. In my course, I learned how to calculate
a chart by hand, which takes hours, really hours, and
it's all done with a mathematical formula.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Yeah, I've heard you say there's like a real like
maths to it. I love that you say it's down
to earth cosmic guidance. Yes, I like it because it's like, no,
it's just like here, I'm going to tell you what's
come up.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Let's unpack it kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Well, that's what I want to do, you know, because
I think that the astrology buffs out there and the
astrology experts they know what they're doing. Yeah, so they
can use the astrology to really help their everyday lives.
But the people out there who don't necessarily have the
time to go and study astrology or know a little
bit more about it because it is really complex. Then,
you know, I hope to be that person that brings
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them the down to earth guidance so that they can
use it in their everyday lives.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
So that's where your POD's so good. I'll pop a
link to it in the show notes. Because you get
your start of the week and then you get your
little lead up for the weekend, which I love yes, yeah,
so quick and easy.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
I love it so digestible.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
So how did you get into astrology, Like, was there
something when you were just like I think I want
to know more or did you have like a little
bit of more hippias Like what got you into it?
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Well, so my mum's clairvoyant. Oh yeah, So I've always
been open and fascinated with, you know, the what's lives
beyond the veil. But I actually went into a ballet
career when I was very young and.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Into my tracks. You're so gorgeous. I was totally tracked.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
It's the posture, you know, I just can't get rid
of it. And then I ended up modeling for a
while and I used that as a vehicle to travel
all over the world. And then I settled down and
I had my first child, and that was over twenty
years ago, and at that point I just decided I
had this, you know. I came to a crossroad and
I was like, Okay, I've been doing everything in my
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life based on my looks, you know, even with a
ballet that was an asthetic thing based on your physicality,
and I just thought I need to use my brain now.
I just had that calling to do something with my brain,
but it had to feel right. I had to feel
really passionate about what I was going to pursue. And
so I was actually tossing up between netropathy because I'm, yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Could see that, I could see that working.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
And I've had my own health issues in the past,
so you know, I felt a calling to that, and
also psychology interested me. But astrology was, you know, was
the other thing. But it was really hard to know
how to pursue that properly because the universities don't offer
an astrology course. So I wanted to seek out a
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course that was reputable, and I ended up I ended
up going to Channel ten for a modeling job and
running into the gorgeous Karen Mooregold. Oh this your little moment,
Oh I love this, And I was praying to the universe,
please show me a sign one of these three things.
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I just need to feel that connection and that passion,
and please show me a sign. So I sort of
rocked up to Channel ten and bumped into Karen more Goold.
Never in a million years would I have approached her
like if I hadn't felt that it was a sign.
It was the sign I needed to pursue, and she
was gorgeous, and she put me onto somebody who put
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me onto somebody else who was Camero.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
So she literally said, listen, this is what I think
you should do, kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Like she rang me the next day and gave me
a number, because you know, I was looking to study
because being that, you know, having that Virgo element to
my son's sign, as we are not a virgo, but
because my son is in the six house, I want
to do things properly and thoroughly and correctly, so I
wanted to study. And actually, like just off topic a
little bit, If anyone is listening to this and does
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want to pursue astrology, I would absolutely say that the
number one thing to do is to do a course
and learn your crung properly from someone reputable, because if
you get your calculations incorrect, then your whole interpretations go
out the window.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Yes, yes, totally.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
And I think I think as well, like if people
are coming to you for a reading, they're going to
want to feel safe and that you know that what
because it's quite vulnerable as well. Hearing about the it
might have checked effect like choices and courses, you know,
what I mean it might. I love that you've said, like,
get the craft, build the craft, get the skill set.
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I think that applies to nearly anything, Like it's not
like you just.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Go straight into something. You've got to do the work.
At the end of the day, You've got to do
the work.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
And especially like I'm talking twenty one years ago that
this happened for me, but now like astrology has become
really popular, It's had this huge boom. So I was
kind of doing it before it became cool, but there's
so much more. When something becomes popular, everyone wants to
jump on the bandwagon, so you know, you do have
to be especially careful.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Okay, Yeah, I'm so excited to ask you about having
a reading because I just love this stuff. I a
bit like you, Like I have always had that calling
to like the neuropathy and their health and wellness, and
but I think health and wellness does span out to
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like spiritual health and wellness, emotional health and wellness, which
is where I think this comes into play. Yes, so
I'm looking at this incredible cool Is it called a
natal chart?
Speaker 3 (09:12):
It's called a natal chart or a birth chart in
sort of everyday speak. And yes, so I have calculated
your birth chart here and you can see, like you
can see how complex.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
That looks mathematical like you just said it does.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
If I can just explain about a birth chart, that everything,
you know, the planets are in their respective zodiac signs,
and it's basically a snapshot of the heavens at your
exact moment of birth, assuming that you are in the
center of a three hundred and sixty degree wheel. And
that's what the chart looks like. And so you've not
just got the planets in their zodiac signs, but then
there's the mathematical relationship within that three hundred and sixty
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degree wheel that everything makes to each other. So that's
my that's all the technicalities out the way.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
No, I love it and it's so fascinating to look
at and I I feel like I really want to
hand over to you, like I just if you treat
me like a client, like I'm so excited to hear
what you have to say.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
All right, well, thank you, but that said, please do
interject and throw in because the way that I deal
with my consultations is that you know, it's more of
a it's kind of like a counseling session, you know,
with that esoteric element to it, it is not a
fortune telling session. And I think that's so important to
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differentiate between. You know, fortune teller will tell you something
that is set in stone. But that said, I think
that any really good clairvoyant will also point out that,
you know, there is an element of choice, of course,
and that's what I totally believe in. Free will. Free
will reigns. So an astrologer will read the energetic climate,
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and the beauty of it is that you still get
to make a choice as to how your destiny plays out,
depending on of course, there are some limitations within that,
you know, within the parameters of what the planets are doing.
So but you get a choice as to how things
play out to a degree.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
I like that. I like that.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
It's quite empowering, I think, so it is exactly empowering.
I like that. All right, so let's focus on you
and thank you for letting me read your birth chart.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
I'm sola so excited.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
So the first thing that struck me with your chart
is all of this virgoeness that you have. So let's
start with saying that you have your son in virgo.
The sun represents your basic character and how you like
to shine your light out in the world, and the
chart will show you different layers to yourself. So the
sun is sort of somewhere in between. The sun sign
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has become so important because you know, all the planets
answer to the gravitational force of the Sun. But it's
not the be all and end all. You know, people
are very stuck on the sun sign. Says as you
can see so much more your moon sign, you've nus
sign all, but.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
The sun is When someone goes, what's your star sign? Yeah,
in passing, that is your sun's sign. Usually when you're
saying you're like onboard in September, it sits in virgo.
That is what the sun sign is.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Right, Yeah, yeah, that's you know, and that's where the
horoscopes kind of come from. But I'm going to give
you a little horoscope tip when we get to your
rising sign. Okay, about how to read your horoscopes, which
are sun sign horoscopes always, I'm going to give you
a tip on how to read that more accurately for yourself.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Cool, So let's go back.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
To your son in Virgo. The Virgo qualities we can
apply to your basic characters, so meticulous discerning. It's also
an Earth sign, so very grounded and sensible. But you
can be incredibly hard on yourself with that Virgo sun
and judgmental, not just on other people, but also on yourself,
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and that's something to really watch. I think you function
well with some sort of structure and routine in your life,
but the danger there and I think you said it
before I heard you're saying it before this podcast, that
you're a bit OCD mate.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Absolutely, yeah, So this is where the Virgo lesson is
to really learn to surrender and to trust and to
let go trust in the process, which is hard. And
I have to say that I find it's so fascinating
that you have this incredibly successful podcast called Fearlessly Failing,
which is about failures, right, yeah, and that is like
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the worst conceivable thing for a Virgo to fail, because
there's such perfectionists and they really hold themselves accountable, you know,
with that self discipline. So yeah, I think this podcast
for you is probably very cathartic as well as you're
sharing that healing for.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Other cost course, I was walking with a Virgo yesterday.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
We're a few days apart, and I think we're similarly
bought the same year.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
It like, there's some crossovers, and.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
He goes, but you're just so good at risks forever,
You're so good at taking risks. And I said, I
do them, but they still sting, Yeah, I said I do,
And he goes, really, I go, absolutely, they still go
against like me wanting to control and have everything lined up.
And my te's crossing my dotted eyes and he's like,
but you still jump.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
I go, yeah, but it is hard, like I do
do it. It's scary and it's very fearful. Yeah, And
he's like, oh, but that doesn't feel burgo.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
I mean, I was like, well, there's some other part
of me that's making me jump because I can jump,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Yeah, And there is. It's the fire that you have
in your chart as well. And this is where it's
so important for an astrologer to read the chart in
its entirety and to not just separate people, you know,
by their son's signs. So I will get to your, well,
let's go to yours. We'll go to the sage rising
now seeing as we're there, and I'll go I'll jump
back into the burgo later on. So yeah, when you're
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talking about taking those risks. You have this, you have
a Sagittarian rising, So this is about being a bit
more of a risk taker. It's that fiery energy. It
motivates you to step outside your comfort zone. So this
is great, you know. And it's not something that's in
contradiction to that Virgo sun. It's something that helps you balance.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
So it makes you more adventurous and really to find
the truth in a situation, in a relationship, truth for
a Sagittarius or a Sagittarius rising is paramount. Yeah, and
your own truth. You know. I said something the other day,
stand in your truth, and that's very applicable to a
sagit rising. Someone said, you know the made of comment.
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Can we please stop using that phase stand in our truth?
And I said, well, it's I get it. It's maybe overused,
but it's so.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Good, right totally.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
I said to I was talking to my boyfriend and
I go, if you're just honest, I was like, you
actually can't be let down. Yeah, because it's it's the
It won't fail you, even if it's uncomfortable to sit
in that honesty.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Yeah, it's never going to fail you.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
And I used to be the Virgo perfectionist that I'd
be like, pretend I know something, or I'd practice something
to with an I train as an actor, and I'd
learn it within an inch of its life, and I'd
hold on so tied that my teachers would be like,
just get out of your head and let go. And
so that's where like the and I think, like, I
don't know if it changes as you age, but I
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feel like I must be leaning more into my sagy
rising because now I'm like, I'm going to do the
best that I can do and then I'm going to
throw that work away and just be in the moment
and jump.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Yeah, that's just more a beautiful balance. And you know,
it sounds like you're being your own teacher there, So
I'd say that is perfect, And you don't want to
deny your virgo iness. I think to embrace that, you know,
and be proud of the fact that when you do things,
you want to do them well, like applaud yourself for that,
give yourself the pad on the back, but then also
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honoring that risk taker element that's in your rising sign.
And I will just say that satirizing people you know,
they mean so well but honesty so important that they
can often be brutally honest themselves to a point of
being a little harsh.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Yeah. Yeah like that.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
It's almost like, oh, that feels awkward now, like we've
just yeah, yeah, I feel that.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Yeah, but that look, that's important to be honest, all right.
So I'm going to jump back into the Virgo, and
we call it a stellium because not only have you
got a Virgo sun sign, but you've also got mercury
in Virgo. You've got your moon sign in Virgo, which
is a deeper layer. Again, the moon sign really shows
us our emotional landscape. It's who we are at a
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soul level. Can often represent the mother as well. So
you know, maybe I might suggest that you know, you've
you've developed some of these traits of you know, do
your always do your best from your mum possibly, and
you've got Mars in Virgo, so all sort of in
this little Virgo cluster which we call a stellium. So
this will just enhance and amplify all the Virgo. I
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also think, you know, with these placements for you, the
health stuff, like the fact that you're a nutritionist is
just so perfect. That's very Virgo, and that's a very
positive expression of Virgo.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Yeah. Yeah, No, that totally attracts I think as well.
Can it being connected to my health makes me feel
more grounded. Yes, and that earthiness of like when I'm
honoring my body and moving and eating, well you would
know this from being a ballerina, like when you're connected to.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Your physicality as well. Like that, there's something grounding in
that for me.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Yes, And I think that's also very much an earth sign. Yeah,
you know the earth. A body is earthy. It's because
it's tangible, it's something we can touch and measure totally. Yeah. So,
and but that's your Virgo way of kind of connecting
in with your bodies through the health and through the nutrition,
because Virgo is a sign that rules health.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Yes, yeah, how cool. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Also a very Virgo thing is to be of service
to humanity, to someone, to something valuable. So you know,
if you feel like you're giving of yourself in terms
of you know, putting a service out there into society,
then I think that would be you know, incredibly fulfilling for.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
You helping others. Totally.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Yeah. Okay, so we'll step away from the whole Virgo.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Can I ask one quick question about it. You know
how you said Virgo and mercury and mars is mercury communication.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Yes, so mercury will rule how you think, how you communicate,
and that can be you know, that can be communicating
through movement, it can be communicating through through word, through song.
However you communicate is very virgo.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Got it? Oh? I like that and.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
How you think and how you process thoughts and information
as well.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
This makes so much sense. Like if I'm ever stressed,
I have to write a list. I have to get
it out and write a list and it just takes
literally the worry is gone as soon as I written
it down, but in a list format.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Oh see, you're right. You're so in tune with even
if you don't realize it, you're actually in tune with
your astrology by doing that.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
It's so nice, though, to get these little confirmations yes,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Yeah, And I think that's you know, a lot of
people will step away from a reading and they'll say
that was so validating, And I think for me, that
was my experience when I first looked at my chart
and it was it wasn't even just validating. It was
not even just reassuring. But I suddenly realized why certain
parts of myself were the way that they were, and
I forgave myself.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Yeah. So it was an ease, Yeah, totally, and.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
An acceptance self acceptance. I love that. So the moon
and mercury are really closely connected in your chart, and
this can mean it's great because it means that you
verbalize your emotions. You verbalize your feelings well, and you're
highly articulate. Yes, so the moon and mercury means you
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can verbalize your feelings really well, express your emotions. But
also it can be a cautious approach to love and relationships.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Yeah, because it's that Virgo caution, you know, that sensible mindset,
because that's mercury and the moon is your emotions. So
you kind of think things through and is this person
good for me? And yeah, so with any sort of relationship,
you're kind of onto it.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Do you know?
Speaker 1 (21:25):
My boyfriend and I are two days apart, so Virgo
like both. I'd love to know his child. I don't
think I think he's only got Virgo and his son
like I think he's got a bit of Pisces and
stuff for sure. But makes sense because even though we're
both sun virgos, there are we are like aliens to
one another as well in many ways, Like, yeah, so different.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
It's so interesting when you're looking at the charts of
two people in a relationship and people talk about their
compatibility with their son sign. I would always say, no,
but look at your Venus signs compatibility because Venus is
what we love, how we love, and what we look
for in a partner. Of course, Mars is our sexuality
as well, so you want to have compatible Mars signs,
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and then the moon signs our emotions. That's more important
than your basic character in a way.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Oh this makes so much sense.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Yeah, so there's a lot more to look at there.
And oh, there's this other thing called the signature of
a chart where you basically calculate the chart as a
whole and you come up with one sign and that's
your signature sign. And I just find it fascinating. Whatever,
whenever I've looked at this with other people and with myself,
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I've noticed that what one person is lacking, the other
partner provides.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
How calls are trusting a little bit as well, in
the esoteric ness of who you end.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Up with absolutely. Yeah. Yeah, all right. So we've talked
about your sag rising, but I don't think I gave
you that little hot tip, and that is when you're
reading your sun's sign horoscopes, you must read for Sagittarius first. Really, yes,
because the way that an astrologer will interpret the what's
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happening for that sun sign is actually more accurate for
the rising sign because it aligns with your birth chart,
your individual birth chart, rather than being a generalized reading
for the sad sums.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Oh mate, this is going to You've just changed my world.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Thank you exactly, and you're welcome. Okay. So the other
thing that's really interesting about your chart is that you
have Uranus rising, okay. And what that means is when
a planet is rising in a chart, it gives it
special weight or special significance. So Uranus is the planet
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of the rebel.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Oh wow. Cool.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
And what's interesting is you've got all of this virgo happening,
all of this correctness, but then this really strong rebel within.
Yeah is that making sense totally?
Speaker 1 (24:02):
I mean, like, next week I go to La to
chase my acting and voice acting dreams, and I didn't
start training as an actor until thirty one.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Like I literally was like and career changed, like yeah,
which I think is very fearful for me as a
virgo and like someone that likes to know a very
clear plan of where I'm going. But in my soul
and core soul, I've always known that I have to
honor my dreams. And that might be what you're like,
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because I always say, like, I want to honor my
dreams so that I never got look back and go, oh,
wish I tried that thing that was scary. Yeah, which
could be that rebel. Isn't that right? It's the things
that we don't do that we regret the most. And
I'm just laughing because I haven't even gotten to your
Leo mid Heaven yet, which is very much about the actor.
Oh great, but the Uranus rebel. Yeah, So you want
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to do things outside the norm, go against the grain,
against the status quo, and you know, I would encourage
you to absolutely do that in healthy ways because then
you're honoring that Urana's rising. Maybe that's why I love
skydiving so much. It's skydiving. I was like, when can
I do it again? And my boyfriend's like you couldn't
pay me to ever do that in my arm. I
(25:14):
want to do it in Hawaii. I want to do
it like I like feeling outside my comfort zone, Like
I love that feeling of like rattling the cage.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
You're fearless, which might be there might be this rising.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
I would say, that's your sag rising. Very sporty, realty
and adventurous. Yeah, and curious about the world. Loves to
travel as well. I mean, there's so much here that
we know. I could spend two hours talking. Oh my goodness.
But definitely you're honoring that sat rising when you're doing
things like that, So do it. Don't go too crazy,
(25:47):
thank you. So we'll get to that. Leo mid Heaven now.
And the mid Heaven is basically at the zenith of
your chart. It's your tenth house CUSP. But it represents
your your career and your life goals, your life vocation.
So it's not necessarily what you do as an everyday job,
(26:07):
but it's what you want to do with your highest potential.
Oh wow, and yours being in Leo this you know,
Leo loves the spotlight and it's not like the shadow
side of Leo loving the spotlight might be because of ego, yes,
but the light side of that would be because Leo
has so much creative energy that it needs to share
(26:31):
that in a big way. So I would say, yes,
you shine, You're the star of the show no, no
matter what you're doing. And if you some Leos, though,
are shy, I have to say, you know, there are
the shy Lios and for you, the Leo part of
you is expressed through your career. But if someone has
(26:51):
a Leo moon, then they can be shy, especially in childhood.
And the whole Leo thing is the journey of confidence.
It's not necessarily that they're born with this uber confident character.
I mean they can be, yeah, but it's often learning
and stepping into that confidence as a life journey.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Oh I love that because I even work with my
therapist and is you know what are we working on
before you're going back to LA And I said self confidence. Yeah,
And I said, I know I sound like a confident person,
but I will get self doubt and I will get
this like maybe I can't do it, Like that might
be like more of that shadow virgo, like oh I'm
not perfect enough to do it, And I'll get imposter syndrome,
(27:30):
and that could be that virgo creeping in. But then
when we clear and like sit in their clarity, it's
so obvious to me that I have to honor that,
like I have to honor the dream and the life purpose.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Because there's no other option to me.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
And I think, you know, you've just summed that up beautifully,
and it's about using the chart and all the pieces
of the chart to balance out and get the best
outcome for you and your life experience. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
How cool. Oh, I think that's one of my favorite bits.
Oh really that?
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Yes? Now I must say as well that you have
not only do you have this Leomid heaven about your career,
but you have an asteroid that's really closely connected. And
this is the asteroid called Series. And series is about
the parent child relationship, it can also be about loss
and grief. Now for you, I think that and Venus
(28:25):
is also playing into this story. So I think for you,
at some point in your career that it would be
beautiful for you to assist other women because it's that Venus,
you know, that divine feminine energy with some type of
loss and griefs So interesting.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
I've just shared my whole fertility egg freezing journey on
my pod and in a bid to help other women
if they're going to go through it perfect. And it
was very confronting for me to share that. Yeah, Like
it was felt very I had a lot of fear
about maybe not being able to be a mom because
I'm thirty seven and not ready to be one yet,
(29:03):
and so that's why we went down the IVF path
for future planning, and I my fear of not being
a mum, Like I was like, why are you fearing
this thing? And it was like, it's been a huge
journey of letting go of that fear and I reckon
that could be when you talked about maternal like mother
kind of energy and then sharing that, sharing that story
with other women.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Yes, well it makes you very vulnerable. And I think
you know, in our society, we define women by certain
factors and one of those is, you know, being a
successful mother. And totally you know, I think we're probably
stepping away from that paradigm now, but a little bit hit.
It's a slow evolution, but yeah, it makes you vulnerable
(29:48):
and it's scary. That's really scary when you open up
that journey to other people. To judge, yeah, big time.
But from an astrological perspective, I can say that you're
right on track with doing that. Thank you absolutely, and
you know, congratulations.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Thanks doing that.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
That took a bigger leap of facing fear and courage.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
And I think when you know you're feeling that fear,
that maybe is a sign to leap in and dive in. Yeah,
take that as a confirmation that you're on the right track.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
I love that. Also.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
The other thing with that Asteroid series being about children
is I think that you know, potentially you could do
some type of work with with mothers or with children.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Yes, there's a dream that I have not spoken about yet,
and that I'll tell you when we finished recording because
it fits. Hey, I guess i'd I've got a dream.
I really want to write and voice a kid's animation.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Oh my gosh, Yes, Oh this is done.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
That's one of my dreams. I love voice acting so much.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Oh yes, And I've just got the goose bops and
I get that when I get the confirmation.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
I love. I'm so excited about that because that's all
this is all happened, that all of that has happened
in the last six months.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
So when something comes along that triggers Leo, and I'm
thinking you have Venus. Venus is going to be retrograding
through Leo in July until September of this year, So
that might be a time when you work on that
dream a little bit, even if it's in your own head, yeah,
or some yeah, possibly so, or an eclipse in Leo
(31:24):
something like that could be interesting to see because that
will trigger your chart and these placements that we're talking about.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Core.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Speaking of Leo and Venus, you have Venus and Leo,
and as we mentioned before, Venus is how you love
and what you look for in a partner, what you
give in a relationship. So having Venus and Leo, that's
the big love that's looking for the big love, that's
giving the big love, that's wanting nothing less than the
big love. And so that's really beautiful. And Leo's also
(31:52):
a really warm hearted and generous sign. So I love
Venus and Lego people.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
And I love Valentine's and going all Valentine. So that's
probably that probably tracks.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
And look I've just got written here grand displays of affection, Oh.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, anything like mate like I had
pre ordered this present from America two months before. My
boyfriend's like, what's that And I'm like, mate, I found
this limited edition thing of this book. I know you
want that plan out, like, and we spend long periods
apart because I live half in Los Angeles, and like,
I will go and buy like love cut like cards,
(32:30):
romantic cards and post them to him.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
So he gets like three weeks later. I love it.
I love love romance.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
He's a lucky man. I'm wondering what his Venus sign is.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Yeah, I have to find that out.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Yeah, yeah, I'm sure he'd appreciate all of that.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
I hope. Well he's getting it.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Lucky.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Well.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Also, Venus is about fun, so it's about, you know,
putting a lot of fun into your relationships and making
it fun. So that's all healthy for you too. Sometimes
there can be the shadow side of that can be
ego allowing ego to come into play into the relationships.
So if you feel like you're at loggerheads on something,
make sure you're removing the ego out of the situation.
(33:13):
And there is a need to feel really important to
your partner, yes, and potentially putting your partner on a
pedestal as well, but you know that is again the
shadow more the shadow side, but you can work to
balance that out as well. And you know, but there's
nothing wrong with feeling important in et cetera of someone's
world either. So just understanding that that is a part
(33:35):
of you and that's an important part of what you're
looking for in a relationship.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Oh yeah, this all tracks, This all tracks.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Now you have Venus square Saturn, and so I think
this can be about boundaries and commitment. But because you
have that uranus rising that we talked about, I think
you might be someone that kind of looks to do
boundaries in a relationship or do a relationship differently, like
(34:03):
maybe some what's what works for someone else in terms
of boundaries and commitment. Maybe you say we don't want
the conventional marriage, you know, as an example, or it's
a relationship a type of loving relationship that wants to
do it differently.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
So yeah, we spend ages apart because I live half
in La and he stays in bar and by so
we spend six months a party.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
And people are like, how is that okay?
Speaker 1 (34:27):
And I was like, we love it because it actually
honors each other's passion. Yeah, because he's a composerus. He's
really creative as well, and so he gets to deep
dive and work because we've got a studio at our
house and just like totally work on his passion.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
And I'm over in La being a rebel and chasing
my dream.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
And creating all these ideas. And then I come back
and then we nurture together, and so we do have this.
But people think there must be something wrong because we
spend so much time apart, and I'm like, it's not forever,
you know what I mean, it's just well, we're chasing
these dreams.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Well, I think that could work for you perfectly, you know,
And as I said, what works for one person is
not going to work for you guys. So I think
that's fantastic. Stay with that, and don't let anyone impose
their values or opinions about, you know, what a relationship
should look like, because it's what works for you. And
(35:20):
speaking of relationships, I look to the descendant to get
an idea about the type of partner that you might
draw in. And you have Gemini on the descendants, really yes,
because it's always opposite the ascendant, because you know, the
ascendant is about you and your personality, and then the
descendant is always directly opposite. And that's because I believe that,
(35:42):
you know, relationships are like a mirror. They reflect back
to us who we are, and not who we think
we are, but who we are deep deep down. So
that Gemini would suggest someone that is a really great
communicator and a relationship that is you know, is on
the same wavelength and that intellectual a spark is just
(36:05):
so yeah, totally, that's yeah, that's what chance you on.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
We make jokes about who's smarter, and I was like,
have you never dated anyone as smart as me? And
we'll like because we both like to read every night,
and I'm like, oh, so it's just over here building
my lexicon and like we'll just try and out nerd
each other the whole way.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
That's hilarious. I mean, Gemini is so cerebral. They live
in their heads. Yeah, ruled by mercury. So yeah, and
you are smart, You are really smart because Mercury the
sign of intelligence and intellect in Virgo for a start,
Virgo and Mercury that's in rulership, so Mercury is strongly
(36:45):
placed in that sign and Virgo is a super smart sign.
So you've got that amplified those smarts. Yeah, you are
very cerebral and you can be cerebral about your emotions
as well.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Yeah, we talked about verbalized definitely.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Yes, so Saturn, you have Satin in the twelve house. Now,
this can be a bit challenging for some people, but
I think to work with this best. So when I
say challenging, I mean there can be bouts of loneliness, however,
and I've just what's popped into my mind is what
you've just said about going away for six months and
end and it works well for you. I have written
(37:22):
here works best in isolation. Yeah, recharge and revive in solitude.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Absolutely, Yeah, a million percent. And that's where the big
difference between me and my partner. He loves to socialize
and I'll literally look at him and be like, we're out,
and I'll be winding him.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
I've got to get home. I got to get to bed.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Like I know at the second that I need to
leave somewhere, and it's not because there's anything wrong with
the place or the people.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
I'm just tapped out. I can't.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
I have to then go and recalibrate on my own. Yes,
and with la I used to say with a matter.
I was like, everyone's asking if I'm lonely. I like
being alone? You do as opposed to being lonely?
Speaker 3 (38:00):
Yeah yeah, And I think you do your best work
in solitude definitely. Yeah, So I think too. And satin
is about boundaries, so make sure you maintain those boundaries
for yourself. I mean, you want to get out and
you don't want to be a total hermit, but you
need to honor your inner hermit a little bit.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
Absolutely. Oh yeah, happy, that's very easy for me to do.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
You're also born. This is the last thing about your
natal chart that I'll talk about, but you're born during
the balsamic phase of the moon. And what that means
is just that a few days prior to the new moon.
So this is the dark moon. It's when the moon
is in shadow and it's going quiet before it's preparing
(38:41):
for that next lunar phase. So this can contribute to
your personality, sorry, your personality type as well. And balsamic
lunar phase people are generally introspective, They are spiritually street wise.
They can board on being psychic as well, because they're
(39:02):
so tapped in, so tapped inward that they pick up
on people's emotions and how they're really feeling. There can
be a level of fragility around the balsamic Luna phase
as well, so it's important to kind of keep nurturing
yourself mentally, physically and all of that as well.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Oh wow, I always say to Matt as well, Mike,
I can read a room who's the legend and who's
fake and all that, like straight away, it might be
that just like trusting it, and you get a feeling
in size RAWI like, I feel like that I've known
that person forever even though I've just met them, or
I don't feel safe around that person.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
You can feel it very quickly.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
Yeah you can. You can because you pick up on
the vibe. Yeah great, Yeah, oh I love that. Balsamic
luna fase people also make amazing psychologists, ah, because there's
a lot of empathy, a lot of empathy, which you
obviously bring to your work as well with the podcast.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
Oh my goodness, So.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Would you like me to have a little chat about
Oh my.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
God, I would lo.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
I mean, here's the thing. We have done a full
episode now, but I cannot. I cannot let you, Like,
I can see your incredible notes in front of me,
So pick whatever you want to talk about and let's
kick it.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
They might kick us out, but I'll just do a
little bit of.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
I will just very quickly say that all of that
was your birth chart. Yeah, this is about you know,
your astrological DNA, but to really read what's happening to
you in this moment of time, and we'll just look
at the transit chart. You can apply different mathematical formulas
to get different charts and different types of information, but
(40:42):
just with the transits, what I mean by that is
what the planets are doing today now and how they
are triggering your chart. So there were just a couple
of things that I noticed really stood out for today.
So you're actually going through a nodal return and what
that means is it's the Moon's nodes have come back
(41:03):
to the point that they were at when you were born,
and that only happens once every nineteen years.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
Oh wow, how long do they return for?
Speaker 3 (41:10):
You'll probably be feeling this, I would say for about
eighteen months. Wow, So they're kind of in the middle
of that phase at the moment. So let's say another
nine months, Yeah, about another nine months?
Speaker 2 (41:22):
Experience this so interesting?
Speaker 3 (41:24):
And it brings a lot of reflection and reassessment about
your path. Am I on the right path? You know?
And because your north node is in Taurus, this is
about values and what's important to you, what's really important?
Speaker 1 (41:37):
This all makes total sense, like the egg freezing, you
know what I mean, or it's all happened in this time.
Speaker 3 (41:42):
Yeah, it usually brings kind of a big crossroad in
life also speaking about freezing the eggs. Look, I have
to admit I looked at this kind of pattern here
going on in your chart and I was a little oh, okay,
that can mean it can mean logical intervention accidents, And
(42:03):
I was unnerved by that. But then I do now
realize that you've had that intervention with the IVF. So
this is it's the Mars and the Uranus connecting in
and it's in your seventh house, which is your house
of marriage, so involves your partner.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
Oh wow.
Speaker 3 (42:22):
Yes, And this has been sort of around this energy
lingering from September last year until kind of now or March.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
That's when I started it all, and there was there
did need to have a little bit of intervention as
well while I was doing it, So I did have
to do all of that and then work very heavily
to get my.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
Health back after. So I feel like I've been in.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
That real cocoon of like, oh, we're doing this thing
and it really took. I was like, oh, I'll do
it and it's done, whereas that was like a real
six month experience.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (42:53):
Yes, And what's interesting is that pattern between Mars and
uranus surgical interventions accidents. That's kind of it's a very violent,
forceful energy. But again when we're talking about the light
and the shadow expression of you know, the planetary alignments,
the light expression of that typically in astrology is birth.
(43:16):
I'll leave you birth, so it's you know right there,
and I'll just I'll end on a really positive note.
I see some like something really positive because Jupiter is
the planet of optimism and luck and expansion and help
from other people as well. And Jupiter is going to
hit that north note that I was talking about, and
(43:36):
because of its retrograde, it's going to have a few
hits around July November of this year and then February
of next year. And it can also bring in a
soulmate there because that's a moon's node thing. Oh yeah,
all some good news of sorts. So I'm liking those
times around those times for you.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
Wow, And we're going to bring this episode out March six.
Was anything around March ish mentioned before?
Speaker 3 (44:05):
Well, Saturn moves into Pisces on the eighth of March,
and this is a once in twenty nine year cycle.
So Saturn is about boundaries, it's about commitments, it's about
making a commitment to something huge. I think, you know, generally,
I think generally this might have a different implication for
(44:27):
us globally. I think it'll have to do with our
medical system and kind of upgrading that but having to
work very hard on doing that. But if you've got
Pisces somewhere in your birth chart, and for you it's
in your fifth house oddly enough of children, but you
do also have it in your fourth house, which is
home and family, So I think there's going to be
(44:50):
some sort of a focus there and a commitment to that.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
Ah cool, that's really cool. So fun. I didn't tell
you I was going to ask you. This one put
you on the spot.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
I have loved this so much that when I'm next
back in the studio, can we do another reading, because
it'll be down the track, it'll be when I'm back
from America.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
Could we do that?
Speaker 3 (45:09):
Yes, absolutely, and we'll get different sort of planetary alignments
and we'll see where you're at.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
Let's keep track, because I also when I met you
straight away not you also look so gorgeous in like
a we're matching in these like whimsical frocks today. But
I did get a feeling. I was like I could
be friends with this person. You know when you get
that feeling. And you told me I'm connected to my
intuition for being able to read it, you know, read people.
(45:34):
So if you're open to it, I would absolutely love
to get you on for a part two, part three
down the track because I've learnt so much and it's
really empowering. Like we were saying at.
Speaker 3 (45:45):
The start, I'm so glad to hear that, and what
a beautiful compliment. And I always know when I'm going
to have an amazing reading with someone because I kind
of secretly check out our compatibility. And you and I
have very similar patterns in our.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
Show because you've got you've got the virgo?
Speaker 3 (46:00):
Do you have the I have the virgo in myself note,
but I have a six house sun. And for people
listening that know their Sun signed placement, that the house
that your son is placed in, and you know the
ruler of that house. So in a six house in
that case, it's Virgo, so I have the Virgo quality
kind of overlay to my Gemini sun.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
Oh cooyah.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
Yeah, thank you so much. I have learned so much today, Natasha.
I'm going to link your pod in the show notes
as well. Amazing and your Insta as well, because you're
always put really great updates and reels about what's going
on with retrogrades and new moons and four moons.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
And so much. So thank you, so so much.
Speaker 1 (46:44):
You have got me so excited for the next chunk
of time as well. I literally fly back to America
very soon, and you've got me feeling really ready and
empowered for that. And I think also just trusting myself
because a lot of it was oh yeah, I do
work best alone. Oh yeah, I do that. Like a
lot of it was like that that feels right for me.
(47:05):
So I really appreciate you sharing. And I know it
would to take time for you to do those charts
for me, so I really appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (47:11):
It's my absolute pleasure. It's always a privilege to read
a chart. So yeah, and as you're talking, I'm getting
more little signs and things in my head that I
have to zip at being a Gemini in overtime.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
Oh my god. End on one last thing and then
I'll wrap it up.
Speaker 3 (47:25):
Well, I was just saying, you know that the travel
aspect is so good for you because that's a Sagittarian
thing as well.
Speaker 1 (47:30):
So you're a bit of a gypsy girl at heart. Yeah,
big time, big time. Thank you so much. I cannot
wait to do this again.
Speaker 3 (47:36):
My pleasure. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
That's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing. As always,
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Speaker 2 (00:36):
Hello, my gangles.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Today on the pod, we have the beautiful Natasha Weber.
She's just got a book out and it's called Your
Celestial Compass and.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
It is beautiful.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
It's astrology for self discovery and empowerment. Now, this episode
is a re release. We spoke i want to say,
a year and a half ago and she was unreal,
unflipping real incredible.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
And we've just got off of Zoom.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Right now and done a second interview all around her
book and around the energy around the end of the year.
And so I said to the boss Acheno, that's my
word for Matt that I was like, let's bring out
Natasha's first episode. So that's what you're getting this week.
Next week you're going to get the interview that.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
We literally just got off and did so.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Enjoy You're going to have two episodes, two astrology episodes,
so enjoy today's we record this a little while ago,
and then next week's is the brand, brand new, freshy
all around her book. The book is officially available now,
so go to your favorite bookstore, go out and grab it.
And you're supporting a wonderful human as well. So I
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hope you love it. And you probably would already know
Natasha if you watch Tali. She does all the horoscopes
on Tally Rights for seven News horoscopes like incredible human being,
so warm, so lovely, and she make this is the
thing that's so exciting about it this chat. She makes
it so easy to understand and get your head around
(02:07):
because there is a mathematical kind of like science inside
to astrology and just makes it so easy to digest.
So hope you love this chat. Hope you love next
week's chat as well. Natasha Webber, you're phenomenal, my friend.
Welcome to the pod. Natasha Webber, astrologer, podcaster, and I'm
going to say it, mate TV personality.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I've seen you on the tally.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Thank you so much, beautiful to be here.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
I'm really looking forward to this chat. I've got so
many questions. I first of all, I want to know
what an astrologer does. I know this sounds like really,
I'm just going to ask you a few simple questions
because I want to learn myself.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Well, there are different astrologers that do different things, for
a start, but basically, I guess you could say we
read the language and interpret the language of the stars.
So that for me that entails always calculating an astrology chart,
and that is using the location and a time and
(03:09):
a date of a specific event or a person.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Were you impressed on my exact time of birth? I
was down to the minute, mate.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Yes, because it's not easy and a lot of people
struggle with that. And you can still read a chart
if you don't have the exact time of birth, but
you do miss out on a lot of the detail.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Yeah, because I remember when your message, I was like
nine forty three am.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Yeah, exactly when it was. So what is so a chart?
Is you need all those things?
Speaker 1 (03:35):
So you need location, the date, and the exact time,
and then is it what the planets are doing at
that point in time?
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Yes, so when you punch that into your astrology software,
as you know, an astrology does mind you I in
my learnings. In my course, I learned how to calculate
a chart by hand, which takes hours, really hours, and
it's all done with a mathematical formula.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Yeah, I've heard you say there's like a real like
maths to it. I love that you say it's down
to earth cosmic guidance. Yes, I like it because it's like, no,
it's just like here, I'm going to tell you what's
come up.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Let's unpack it kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Well, that's what I want to do, you know, because
I think that the astrology buffs out there and the
astrology experts they know what they're doing. Yeah, so they
can use the astrology to really help their everyday lives.
But the people out there who don't necessarily have the
time to go and study astrology or know a little
bit more about it because it is really complex. Then,
you know, I hope to be that person that brings
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them the down to earth guidance so that they can
use it in their everyday lives.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
So that's where your POD's so good. I'll pop a
link to it in the show notes. Because you get
your start of the week and then you get your
little lead up for the weekend, which I love yes, yeah,
so quick and easy.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
I love it so digestible.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
So how did you get into astrology, Like, was there
something when you were just like I think I want
to know more or did you have like a little
bit of more hippias Like what got you into it?
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Well, so my mum's clairvoyant. Oh yeah, So I've always
been open and fascinated with, you know, the what's lives
beyond the veil. But I actually went into a ballet
career when I was very young and.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Into my tracks. You're so gorgeous. I was totally tracked.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
It's the posture, you know, I just can't get rid
of it. And then I ended up modeling for a
while and I used that as a vehicle to travel
all over the world. And then I settled down and
I had my first child, and that was over twenty
years ago, and at that point I just decided I
had this, you know. I came to a crossroad and
I was like, Okay, I've been doing everything in my
(05:39):
life based on my looks, you know, even with a
ballet that was an asthetic thing based on your physicality,
and I just thought I need to use my brain now.
I just had that calling to do something with my brain,
but it had to feel right. I had to feel
really passionate about what I was going to pursue. And
so I was actually tossing up between netropathy because I'm, yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Could see that, I could see that working.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
And I've had my own health issues in the past,
so you know, I felt a calling to that, and
also psychology interested me. But astrology was, you know, was
the other thing. But it was really hard to know
how to pursue that properly because the universities don't offer
an astrology course. So I wanted to seek out a
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course that was reputable, and I ended up I ended
up going to Channel ten for a modeling job and
running into the gorgeous Karen Mooregold. Oh this your little moment,
Oh I love this, And I was praying to the universe,
please show me a sign one of these three things.
(06:44):
I just need to feel that connection and that passion,
and please show me a sign. So I sort of
rocked up to Channel ten and bumped into Karen more Goold.
Never in a million years would I have approached her
like if I hadn't felt that it was a sign.
It was the sign I needed to pursue, and she
was gorgeous, and she put me onto somebody who put
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me onto somebody else who was Camero.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
So she literally said, listen, this is what I think
you should do, kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Like she rang me the next day and gave me
a number, because you know, I was looking to study
because being that, you know, having that Virgo element to
my son's sign, as we are not a virgo, but
because my son is in the six house, I want
to do things properly and thoroughly and correctly, so I
wanted to study. And actually, like just off topic a
little bit, If anyone is listening to this and does
(07:32):
want to pursue astrology, I would absolutely say that the
number one thing to do is to do a course
and learn your crung properly from someone reputable, because if
you get your calculations incorrect, then your whole interpretations go
out the window.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Yes, yes, totally.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
And I think I think as well, like if people
are coming to you for a reading, they're going to
want to feel safe and that you know that what
because it's quite vulnerable as well. Hearing about the it
might have checked effect like choices and courses, you know,
what I mean it might. I love that you've said, like,
get the craft, build the craft, get the skill set.
(08:08):
I think that applies to nearly anything, Like it's not
like you just.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Go straight into something. You've got to do the work.
At the end of the day, You've got to do
the work.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
And especially like I'm talking twenty one years ago that
this happened for me, but now like astrology has become
really popular, It's had this huge boom. So I was
kind of doing it before it became cool, but there's
so much more. When something becomes popular, everyone wants to
jump on the bandwagon, so you know, you do have
to be especially careful.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Okay, Yeah, I'm so excited to ask you about having
a reading because I just love this stuff. I a
bit like you, Like I have always had that calling
to like the neuropathy and their health and wellness, and
but I think health and wellness does span out to
(08:59):
like spiritual health and wellness, emotional health and wellness, which
is where I think this comes into play. Yes, so
I'm looking at this incredible cool Is it called a
natal chart?
Speaker 3 (09:12):
It's called a natal chart or a birth chart in
sort of everyday speak. And yes, so I have calculated
your birth chart here and you can see, like you
can see how complex.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
That looks mathematical like you just said it does.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
If I can just explain about a birth chart, that everything,
you know, the planets are in their respective zodiac signs,
and it's basically a snapshot of the heavens at your
exact moment of birth, assuming that you are in the
center of a three hundred and sixty degree wheel. And
that's what the chart looks like. And so you've not
just got the planets in their zodiac signs, but then
there's the mathematical relationship within that three hundred and sixty
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degree wheel that everything makes to each other. So that's
my that's all the technicalities out the way.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
No, I love it and it's so fascinating to look
at and I I feel like I really want to
hand over to you, like I just if you treat
me like a client, like I'm so excited to hear
what you have to say.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
All right, well, thank you, but that said, please do
interject and throw in because the way that I deal
with my consultations is that you know, it's more of
a it's kind of like a counseling session, you know,
with that esoteric element to it, it is not a
fortune telling session. And I think that's so important to
(10:32):
differentiate between. You know, fortune teller will tell you something
that is set in stone. But that said, I think
that any really good clairvoyant will also point out that,
you know, there is an element of choice, of course,
and that's what I totally believe in. Free will. Free
will reigns. So an astrologer will read the energetic climate,
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and the beauty of it is that you still get
to make a choice as to how your destiny plays out,
depending on of course, there are some limitations within that,
you know, within the parameters of what the planets are doing.
So but you get a choice as to how things
play out to a degree.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
I like that. I like that.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
It's quite empowering, I think, so it is exactly empowering.
I like that. All right, so let's focus on you
and thank you for letting me read your birth chart.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
I'm sola so excited.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
So the first thing that struck me with your chart
is all of this virgoeness that you have. So let's
start with saying that you have your son in virgo.
The sun represents your basic character and how you like
to shine your light out in the world, and the
chart will show you different layers to yourself. So the
sun is sort of somewhere in between. The sun sign
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has become so important because you know, all the planets
answer to the gravitational force of the Sun. But it's
not the be all and end all. You know, people
are very stuck on the sun sign. Says as you
can see so much more your moon sign, you've nus
sign all, but.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
The sun is When someone goes, what's your star sign? Yeah,
in passing, that is your sun's sign. Usually when you're
saying you're like onboard in September, it sits in virgo.
That is what the sun sign is.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Right, Yeah, yeah, that's you know, and that's where the
horoscopes kind of come from. But I'm going to give
you a little horoscope tip when we get to your
rising sign. Okay, about how to read your horoscopes, which
are sun sign horoscopes always, I'm going to give you
a tip on how to read that more accurately for yourself.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Cool, So let's go back.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
To your son in Virgo. The Virgo qualities we can
apply to your basic characters, so meticulous discerning. It's also
an Earth sign, so very grounded and sensible. But you
can be incredibly hard on yourself with that Virgo sun
and judgmental, not just on other people, but also on yourself,
(12:58):
and that's something to really watch. I think you function
well with some sort of structure and routine in your life,
but the danger there and I think you said it
before I heard you're saying it before this podcast, that
you're a bit OCD mate.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Absolutely, yeah, So this is where the Virgo lesson is
to really learn to surrender and to trust and to
let go trust in the process, which is hard. And
I have to say that I find it's so fascinating
that you have this incredibly successful podcast called Fearlessly Failing,
which is about failures, right, yeah, and that is like
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the worst conceivable thing for a Virgo to fail, because
there's such perfectionists and they really hold themselves accountable, you know,
with that self discipline. So yeah, I think this podcast
for you is probably very cathartic as well as you're
sharing that healing for.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Other cost course, I was walking with a Virgo yesterday.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
We're a few days apart, and I think we're similarly
bought the same year.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
It like, there's some crossovers, and.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
He goes, but you're just so good at risks forever,
You're so good at taking risks. And I said, I
do them, but they still sting, Yeah, I said I do,
And he goes, really, I go, absolutely, they still go
against like me wanting to control and have everything lined up.
And my te's crossing my dotted eyes and he's like,
but you still jump.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
I go, yeah, but it is hard, like I do
do it. It's scary and it's very fearful. Yeah, And
he's like, oh, but that doesn't feel burgo.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
I mean, I was like, well, there's some other part
of me that's making me jump because I can jump,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Yeah, And there is. It's the fire that you have
in your chart as well. And this is where it's
so important for an astrologer to read the chart in
its entirety and to not just separate people, you know,
by their son's signs. So I will get to your, well,
let's go to yours. We'll go to the sage rising
now seeing as we're there, and I'll go I'll jump
back into the burgo later on. So yeah, when you're
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talking about taking those risks. You have this, you have
a Sagittarian rising, So this is about being a bit
more of a risk taker. It's that fiery energy. It
motivates you to step outside your comfort zone. So this
is great, you know. And it's not something that's in
contradiction to that Virgo sun. It's something that helps you balance.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
So it makes you more adventurous and really to find
the truth in a situation, in a relationship, truth for
a Sagittarius or a Sagittarius rising is paramount. Yeah, and
your own truth. You know. I said something the other day,
stand in your truth, and that's very applicable to a
sagit rising. Someone said, you know the made of comment.
(15:38):
Can we please stop using that phase stand in our truth?
And I said, well, it's I get it. It's maybe overused,
but it's so.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Good, right totally.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
I said to I was talking to my boyfriend and
I go, if you're just honest, I was like, you
actually can't be let down. Yeah, because it's it's the
It won't fail you, even if it's uncomfortable to sit
in that honesty.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Yeah, it's never going to fail you.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
And I used to be the Virgo perfectionist that I'd
be like, pretend I know something, or I'd practice something
to with an I train as an actor, and I'd
learn it within an inch of its life, and I'd
hold on so tied that my teachers would be like,
just get out of your head and let go. And
so that's where like the and I think, like, I
don't know if it changes as you age, but I
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feel like I must be leaning more into my sagy
rising because now I'm like, I'm going to do the
best that I can do and then I'm going to
throw that work away and just be in the moment
and jump.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Yeah, that's just more a beautiful balance. And you know,
it sounds like you're being your own teacher there, So
I'd say that is perfect, And you don't want to
deny your virgo iness. I think to embrace that, you know,
and be proud of the fact that when you do things,
you want to do them well, like applaud yourself for that,
give yourself the pad on the back, but then also
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honoring that risk taker element that's in your rising sign.
And I will just say that satirizing people you know,
they mean so well but honesty so important that they
can often be brutally honest themselves to a point of
being a little harsh.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Yeah. Yeah like that.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
It's almost like, oh, that feels awkward now, like we've
just yeah, yeah, I feel that.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Yeah, but that look, that's important to be honest, all right.
So I'm going to jump back into the Virgo, and
we call it a stellium because not only have you
got a Virgo sun sign, but you've also got mercury
in Virgo. You've got your moon sign in Virgo, which
is a deeper layer. Again, the moon sign really shows
us our emotional landscape. It's who we are at a
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soul level. Can often represent the mother as well. So
you know, maybe I might suggest that you know, you've
you've developed some of these traits of you know, do
your always do your best from your mum possibly, and
you've got Mars in Virgo, so all sort of in
this little Virgo cluster which we call a stellium. So
this will just enhance and amplify all the Virgo. I
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also think, you know, with these placements for you, the
health stuff, like the fact that you're a nutritionist is
just so perfect. That's very Virgo, and that's a very
positive expression of Virgo.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Yeah. Yeah, No, that totally attracts I think as well.
Can it being connected to my health makes me feel
more grounded. Yes, and that earthiness of like when I'm
honoring my body and moving and eating, well you would
know this from being a ballerina, like when you're connected to.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Your physicality as well. Like that, there's something grounding in
that for me.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Yes, And I think that's also very much an earth sign. Yeah,
you know the earth. A body is earthy. It's because
it's tangible, it's something we can touch and measure totally. Yeah. So,
and but that's your Virgo way of kind of connecting
in with your bodies through the health and through the nutrition,
because Virgo is a sign that rules health.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Yes, yeah, how cool. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Also a very Virgo thing is to be of service
to humanity, to someone, to something valuable. So you know,
if you feel like you're giving of yourself in terms
of you know, putting a service out there into society,
then I think that would be you know, incredibly fulfilling for.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
You helping others. Totally.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Yeah. Okay, so we'll step away from the whole Virgo.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Can I ask one quick question about it. You know
how you said Virgo and mercury and mars is mercury communication.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Yes, so mercury will rule how you think, how you communicate,
and that can be you know, that can be communicating
through movement, it can be communicating through through word, through song.
However you communicate is very virgo.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Got it? Oh? I like that and.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
How you think and how you process thoughts and information
as well.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
This makes so much sense. Like if I'm ever stressed,
I have to write a list. I have to get
it out and write a list and it just takes
literally the worry is gone as soon as I written
it down, but in a list format.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Oh see, you're right. You're so in tune with even
if you don't realize it, you're actually in tune with
your astrology by doing that.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
It's so nice, though, to get these little confirmations yes,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Yeah, And I think that's you know, a lot of
people will step away from a reading and they'll say
that was so validating, And I think for me, that
was my experience when I first looked at my chart
and it was it wasn't even just validating. It was
not even just reassuring. But I suddenly realized why certain
parts of myself were the way that they were, and
I forgave myself.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Yeah. So it was an ease, Yeah, totally, and.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
An acceptance self acceptance. I love that. So the moon
and mercury are really closely connected in your chart, and
this can mean it's great because it means that you
verbalize your emotions. You verbalize your feelings well, and you're
highly articulate. Yes, so the moon and mercury means you
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can verbalize your feelings really well, express your emotions. But
also it can be a cautious approach to love and relationships.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Yeah, because it's that Virgo caution, you know, that sensible mindset,
because that's mercury and the moon is your emotions. So
you kind of think things through and is this person
good for me? And yeah, so with any sort of relationship,
you're kind of onto it.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Do you know?
Speaker 1 (21:25):
My boyfriend and I are two days apart, so Virgo
like both. I'd love to know his child. I don't
think I think he's only got Virgo and his son
like I think he's got a bit of Pisces and
stuff for sure. But makes sense because even though we're
both sun virgos, there are we are like aliens to
one another as well in many ways, Like, yeah, so different.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
It's so interesting when you're looking at the charts of
two people in a relationship and people talk about their
compatibility with their son sign. I would always say, no,
but look at your Venus signs compatibility because Venus is
what we love, how we love, and what we look
for in a partner. Of course, Mars is our sexuality
as well, so you want to have compatible Mars signs,
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and then the moon signs our emotions. That's more important
than your basic character in a way.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Oh this makes so much sense.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Yeah, so there's a lot more to look at there.
And oh, there's this other thing called the signature of
a chart where you basically calculate the chart as a
whole and you come up with one sign and that's
your signature sign. And I just find it fascinating. Whatever,
whenever I've looked at this with other people and with myself,
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I've noticed that what one person is lacking, the other
partner provides.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
How calls are trusting a little bit as well, in
the esoteric ness of who you end.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Up with absolutely. Yeah. Yeah, all right. So we've talked
about your sag rising, but I don't think I gave
you that little hot tip, and that is when you're
reading your sun's sign horoscopes, you must read for Sagittarius first. Really, yes,
because the way that an astrologer will interpret the what's
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happening for that sun sign is actually more accurate for
the rising sign because it aligns with your birth chart,
your individual birth chart, rather than being a generalized reading
for the sad sums.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Oh mate, this is going to You've just changed my world.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Thank you exactly, and you're welcome. Okay. So the other
thing that's really interesting about your chart is that you
have Uranus rising, okay. And what that means is when
a planet is rising in a chart, it gives it
special weight or special significance. So Uranus is the planet
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of the rebel.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Oh wow. Cool.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
And what's interesting is you've got all of this virgo happening,
all of this correctness, but then this really strong rebel within.
Yeah is that making sense totally?
Speaker 1 (24:02):
I mean, like, next week I go to La to
chase my acting and voice acting dreams, and I didn't
start training as an actor until thirty one.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Like I literally was like and career changed, like yeah,
which I think is very fearful for me as a
virgo and like someone that likes to know a very
clear plan of where I'm going. But in my soul
and core soul, I've always known that I have to
honor my dreams. And that might be what you're like,
(24:31):
because I always say, like, I want to honor my
dreams so that I never got look back and go, oh,
wish I tried that thing that was scary. Yeah, which
could be that rebel. Isn't that right? It's the things
that we don't do that we regret the most. And
I'm just laughing because I haven't even gotten to your
Leo mid Heaven yet, which is very much about the actor.
Oh great, but the Uranus rebel. Yeah, So you want
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to do things outside the norm, go against the grain,
against the status quo, and you know, I would encourage
you to absolutely do that in healthy ways because then
you're honoring that Urana's rising. Maybe that's why I love
skydiving so much. It's skydiving. I was like, when can
I do it again? And my boyfriend's like you couldn't
pay me to ever do that in my arm. I
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want to do it in Hawaii. I want to do
it like I like feeling outside my comfort zone, Like
I love that feeling of like rattling the cage.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
You're fearless, which might be there might be this rising.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
I would say, that's your sag rising. Very sporty, realty
and adventurous. Yeah, and curious about the world. Loves to
travel as well. I mean, there's so much here that
we know. I could spend two hours talking. Oh my goodness.
But definitely you're honoring that sat rising when you're doing
things like that, So do it. Don't go too crazy,
(25:47):
thank you. So we'll get to that. Leo mid Heaven now.
And the mid Heaven is basically at the zenith of
your chart. It's your tenth house CUSP. But it represents
your your career and your life goals, your life vocation.
So it's not necessarily what you do as an everyday job,
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but it's what you want to do with your highest potential.
Oh wow, and yours being in Leo this you know,
Leo loves the spotlight and it's not like the shadow
side of Leo loving the spotlight might be because of ego, yes,
but the light side of that would be because Leo
has so much creative energy that it needs to share
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that in a big way. So I would say, yes,
you shine, You're the star of the show no, no
matter what you're doing. And if you some Leos, though,
are shy, I have to say, you know, there are
the shy Lios and for you, the Leo part of
you is expressed through your career. But if someone has
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a Leo moon, then they can be shy, especially in childhood.
And the whole Leo thing is the journey of confidence.
It's not necessarily that they're born with this uber confident character.
I mean they can be, yeah, but it's often learning
and stepping into that confidence as a life journey.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Oh I love that because I even work with my
therapist and is you know what are we working on
before you're going back to LA And I said self confidence. Yeah,
And I said, I know I sound like a confident person,
but I will get self doubt and I will get
this like maybe I can't do it, Like that might
be like more of that shadow virgo, like oh I'm
not perfect enough to do it, And I'll get imposter syndrome,
(27:30):
and that could be that virgo creeping in. But then
when we clear and like sit in their clarity, it's
so obvious to me that I have to honor that,
like I have to honor the dream and the life purpose.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Because there's no other option to me.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
And I think, you know, you've just summed that up beautifully,
and it's about using the chart and all the pieces
of the chart to balance out and get the best
outcome for you and your life experience. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
How cool. Oh, I think that's one of my favorite bits.
Oh really that?
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Yes? Now I must say as well that you have
not only do you have this Leomid heaven about your career,
but you have an asteroid that's really closely connected. And
this is the asteroid called Series. And series is about
the parent child relationship, it can also be about loss
and grief. Now for you, I think that and Venus
(28:25):
is also playing into this story. So I think for you,
at some point in your career that it would be
beautiful for you to assist other women because it's that Venus,
you know, that divine feminine energy with some type of
loss and griefs So interesting.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
I've just shared my whole fertility egg freezing journey on
my pod and in a bid to help other women
if they're going to go through it perfect. And it
was very confronting for me to share that. Yeah, Like
it was felt very I had a lot of fear
about maybe not being able to be a mom because
I'm thirty seven and not ready to be one yet,
(29:03):
and so that's why we went down the IVF path
for future planning, and I my fear of not being
a mum, Like I was like, why are you fearing
this thing? And it was like, it's been a huge
journey of letting go of that fear and I reckon
that could be when you talked about maternal like mother
kind of energy and then sharing that, sharing that story
with other women.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Yes, well it makes you very vulnerable. And I think
you know, in our society, we define women by certain
factors and one of those is, you know, being a
successful mother. And totally you know, I think we're probably
stepping away from that paradigm now, but a little bit hit.
It's a slow evolution, but yeah, it makes you vulnerable
(29:48):
and it's scary. That's really scary when you open up
that journey to other people. To judge, yeah, big time.
But from an astrological perspective, I can say that you're
right on track with doing that. Thank you absolutely, and
you know, congratulations.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Thanks doing that.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
That took a bigger leap of facing fear and courage.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
And I think when you know you're feeling that fear,
that maybe is a sign to leap in and dive in. Yeah,
take that as a confirmation that you're on the right track.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
I love that. Also.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
The other thing with that Asteroid series being about children
is I think that you know, potentially you could do
some type of work with with mothers or with children.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Yes, there's a dream that I have not spoken about yet,
and that I'll tell you when we finished recording because
it fits. Hey, I guess i'd I've got a dream.
I really want to write and voice a kid's animation.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Oh my gosh, Yes, Oh this is done.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
That's one of my dreams. I love voice acting so much.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Oh yes, And I've just got the goose bops and
I get that when I get the confirmation.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
I love. I'm so excited about that because that's all
this is all happened, that all of that has happened
in the last six months.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
So when something comes along that triggers Leo, and I'm
thinking you have Venus. Venus is going to be retrograding
through Leo in July until September of this year, So
that might be a time when you work on that
dream a little bit, even if it's in your own head, yeah,
or some yeah, possibly so, or an eclipse in Leo
(31:24):
something like that could be interesting to see because that
will trigger your chart and these placements that we're talking about.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Core.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Speaking of Leo and Venus, you have Venus and Leo,
and as we mentioned before, Venus is how you love
and what you look for in a partner, what you
give in a relationship. So having Venus and Leo, that's
the big love that's looking for the big love, that's
giving the big love, that's wanting nothing less than the
big love. And so that's really beautiful. And Leo's also
(31:52):
a really warm hearted and generous sign. So I love
Venus and Lego people.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
And I love Valentine's and going all Valentine. So that's
probably that probably tracks.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
And look I've just got written here grand displays of affection, Oh.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, anything like mate like I had
pre ordered this present from America two months before. My
boyfriend's like, what's that And I'm like, mate, I found
this limited edition thing of this book. I know you
want that plan out, like, and we spend long periods
apart because I live half in Los Angeles, and like,
I will go and buy like love cut like cards,
(32:30):
romantic cards and post them to him.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
So he gets like three weeks later. I love it.
I love love romance.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
He's a lucky man. I'm wondering what his Venus sign is.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Yeah, I have to find that out.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Yeah, yeah, I'm sure he'd appreciate all of that.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
I hope. Well he's getting it.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Lucky.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Well.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Also, Venus is about fun, so it's about, you know,
putting a lot of fun into your relationships and making
it fun. So that's all healthy for you too. Sometimes
there can be the shadow side of that can be
ego allowing ego to come into play into the relationships.
So if you feel like you're at loggerheads on something,
make sure you're removing the ego out of the situation.
(33:13):
And there is a need to feel really important to
your partner, yes, and potentially putting your partner on a
pedestal as well, but you know that is again the
shadow more the shadow side, but you can work to
balance that out as well. And you know, but there's
nothing wrong with feeling important in et cetera of someone's
world either. So just understanding that that is a part
(33:35):
of you and that's an important part of what you're
looking for in a relationship.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Oh yeah, this all tracks, This all tracks.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Now you have Venus square Saturn, and so I think
this can be about boundaries and commitment. But because you
have that uranus rising that we talked about, I think
you might be someone that kind of looks to do
boundaries in a relationship or do a relationship differently, like
(34:03):
maybe some what's what works for someone else in terms
of boundaries and commitment. Maybe you say we don't want
the conventional marriage, you know, as an example, or it's
a relationship a type of loving relationship that wants to
do it differently.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
So yeah, we spend ages apart because I live half
in La and he stays in bar and by so
we spend six months a party.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
And people are like, how is that okay?
Speaker 1 (34:27):
And I was like, we love it because it actually
honors each other's passion. Yeah, because he's a composerus. He's
really creative as well, and so he gets to deep
dive and work because we've got a studio at our
house and just like totally work on his passion.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
And I'm over in La being a rebel and chasing
my dream.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
And creating all these ideas. And then I come back
and then we nurture together, and so we do have this.
But people think there must be something wrong because we
spend so much time apart, and I'm like, it's not forever,
you know what I mean, it's just well, we're chasing
these dreams.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Well, I think that could work for you perfectly, you know,
And as I said, what works for one person is
not going to work for you guys. So I think
that's fantastic. Stay with that, and don't let anyone impose
their values or opinions about, you know, what a relationship
should look like, because it's what works for you. And
(35:20):
speaking of relationships, I look to the descendant to get
an idea about the type of partner that you might
draw in. And you have Gemini on the descendants, really yes,
because it's always opposite the ascendant, because you know, the
ascendant is about you and your personality, and then the
descendant is always directly opposite. And that's because I believe that,
(35:42):
you know, relationships are like a mirror. They reflect back
to us who we are, and not who we think
we are, but who we are deep deep down. So
that Gemini would suggest someone that is a really great
communicator and a relationship that is you know, is on
the same wavelength and that intellectual a spark is just
(36:05):
so yeah, totally, that's yeah, that's what chance you on.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
We make jokes about who's smarter, and I was like,
have you never dated anyone as smart as me? And
we'll like because we both like to read every night,
and I'm like, oh, so it's just over here building
my lexicon and like we'll just try and out nerd
each other the whole way.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
That's hilarious. I mean, Gemini is so cerebral. They live
in their heads. Yeah, ruled by mercury. So yeah, and
you are smart, You are really smart because Mercury the
sign of intelligence and intellect in Virgo for a start,
Virgo and Mercury that's in rulership, so Mercury is strongly
(36:45):
placed in that sign and Virgo is a super smart sign.
So you've got that amplified those smarts. Yeah, you are
very cerebral and you can be cerebral about your emotions
as well.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Yeah, we talked about verbalized definitely.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Yes, so Saturn, you have Satin in the twelve house. Now,
this can be a bit challenging for some people, but
I think to work with this best. So when I
say challenging, I mean there can be bouts of loneliness, however,
and I've just what's popped into my mind is what
you've just said about going away for six months and
end and it works well for you. I have written
(37:22):
here works best in isolation. Yeah, recharge and revive in solitude.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Absolutely, Yeah, a million percent. And that's where the big
difference between me and my partner. He loves to socialize
and I'll literally look at him and be like, we're out,
and I'll be winding him.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
I've got to get home. I got to get to bed.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Like I know at the second that I need to
leave somewhere, and it's not because there's anything wrong with
the place or the people.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
I'm just tapped out. I can't.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
I have to then go and recalibrate on my own. Yes,
and with la I used to say with a matter.
I was like, everyone's asking if I'm lonely. I like
being alone? You do as opposed to being lonely?
Speaker 3 (38:00):
Yeah yeah, And I think you do your best work
in solitude definitely. Yeah, So I think too. And satin
is about boundaries, so make sure you maintain those boundaries
for yourself. I mean, you want to get out and
you don't want to be a total hermit, but you
need to honor your inner hermit a little bit.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
Absolutely. Oh yeah, happy, that's very easy for me to do.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
You're also born. This is the last thing about your
natal chart that I'll talk about, but you're born during
the balsamic phase of the moon. And what that means
is just that a few days prior to the new moon.
So this is the dark moon. It's when the moon
is in shadow and it's going quiet before it's preparing
(38:41):
for that next lunar phase. So this can contribute to
your personality, sorry, your personality type as well. And balsamic
lunar phase people are generally introspective, They are spiritually street wise.
They can board on being psychic as well, because they're
(39:02):
so tapped in, so tapped inward that they pick up
on people's emotions and how they're really feeling. There can
be a level of fragility around the balsamic Luna phase
as well, so it's important to kind of keep nurturing
yourself mentally, physically and all of that as well.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Oh wow, I always say to Matt as well, Mike,
I can read a room who's the legend and who's
fake and all that, like straight away, it might be
that just like trusting it, and you get a feeling
in size RAWI like, I feel like that I've known
that person forever even though I've just met them, or
I don't feel safe around that person.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
You can feel it very quickly.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
Yeah you can. You can because you pick up on
the vibe. Yeah great, Yeah, oh I love that. Balsamic
luna fase people also make amazing psychologists, ah, because there's
a lot of empathy, a lot of empathy, which you
obviously bring to your work as well with the podcast.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
Oh my goodness, So.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Would you like me to have a little chat about
Oh my.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
God, I would lo.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
I mean, here's the thing. We have done a full
episode now, but I cannot. I cannot let you, Like,
I can see your incredible notes in front of me,
So pick whatever you want to talk about and let's
kick it.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
They might kick us out, but I'll just do a
little bit of.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
I will just very quickly say that all of that
was your birth chart. Yeah, this is about you know,
your astrological DNA, but to really read what's happening to
you in this moment of time, and we'll just look
at the transit chart. You can apply different mathematical formulas
to get different charts and different types of information, but
(40:42):
just with the transits, what I mean by that is
what the planets are doing today now and how they
are triggering your chart. So there were just a couple
of things that I noticed really stood out for today.
So you're actually going through a nodal return and what
that means is it's the Moon's nodes have come back
(41:03):
to the point that they were at when you were born,
and that only happens once every nineteen years.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
Oh wow, how long do they return for?
Speaker 3 (41:10):
You'll probably be feeling this, I would say for about
eighteen months. Wow, So they're kind of in the middle
of that phase at the moment. So let's say another
nine months, Yeah, about another nine months?
Speaker 2 (41:22):
Experience this so interesting?
Speaker 3 (41:24):
And it brings a lot of reflection and reassessment about
your path. Am I on the right path? You know?
And because your north node is in Taurus, this is
about values and what's important to you, what's really important?
Speaker 1 (41:37):
This all makes total sense, like the egg freezing, you
know what I mean, or it's all happened in this time.
Speaker 3 (41:42):
Yeah, it usually brings kind of a big crossroad in
life also speaking about freezing the eggs. Look, I have
to admit I looked at this kind of pattern here
going on in your chart and I was a little oh, okay,
that can mean it can mean logical intervention accidents, And
(42:03):
I was unnerved by that. But then I do now
realize that you've had that intervention with the IVF. So
this is it's the Mars and the Uranus connecting in
and it's in your seventh house, which is your house
of marriage, so involves your partner.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
Oh wow.
Speaker 3 (42:22):
Yes, And this has been sort of around this energy
lingering from September last year until kind of now or March.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
That's when I started it all, and there was there
did need to have a little bit of intervention as
well while I was doing it, So I did have
to do all of that and then work very heavily
to get my.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
Health back after. So I feel like I've been in.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
That real cocoon of like, oh, we're doing this thing
and it really took. I was like, oh, I'll do
it and it's done, whereas that was like a real
six month experience.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (42:53):
Yes, And what's interesting is that pattern between Mars and
uranus surgical interventions accidents. That's kind of it's a very violent,
forceful energy. But again when we're talking about the light
and the shadow expression of you know, the planetary alignments,
the light expression of that typically in astrology is birth.
(43:16):
I'll leave you birth, so it's you know right there,
and I'll just I'll end on a really positive note.
I see some like something really positive because Jupiter is
the planet of optimism and luck and expansion and help
from other people as well. And Jupiter is going to
hit that north note that I was talking about, and
(43:36):
because of its retrograde, it's going to have a few
hits around July November of this year and then February
of next year. And it can also bring in a
soulmate there because that's a moon's node thing. Oh yeah,
all some good news of sorts. So I'm liking those
times around those times for you.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
Wow, And we're going to bring this episode out March six.
Was anything around March ish mentioned before?
Speaker 3 (44:05):
Well, Saturn moves into Pisces on the eighth of March,
and this is a once in twenty nine year cycle.
So Saturn is about boundaries, it's about commitments, it's about
making a commitment to something huge. I think, you know, generally,
I think generally this might have a different implication for
(44:27):
us globally. I think it'll have to do with our
medical system and kind of upgrading that but having to
work very hard on doing that. But if you've got
Pisces somewhere in your birth chart, and for you it's
in your fifth house oddly enough of children, but you
do also have it in your fourth house, which is
home and family, So I think there's going to be
(44:50):
some sort of a focus there and a commitment to that.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
Ah cool, that's really cool. So fun. I didn't tell
you I was going to ask you. This one put
you on the spot.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
I have loved this so much that when I'm next
back in the studio, can we do another reading, because
it'll be down the track, it'll be when I'm back
from America.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
Could we do that?
Speaker 3 (45:09):
Yes, absolutely, and we'll get different sort of planetary alignments
and we'll see where you're at.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
Let's keep track, because I also when I met you
straight away not you also look so gorgeous in like
a we're matching in these like whimsical frocks today. But
I did get a feeling. I was like I could
be friends with this person. You know when you get
that feeling. And you told me I'm connected to my
intuition for being able to read it, you know, read people.
(45:34):
So if you're open to it, I would absolutely love
to get you on for a part two, part three
down the track because I've learnt so much and it's
really empowering. Like we were saying at.
Speaker 3 (45:45):
The start, I'm so glad to hear that, and what
a beautiful compliment. And I always know when I'm going
to have an amazing reading with someone because I kind
of secretly check out our compatibility. And you and I
have very similar patterns in our.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
Show because you've got you've got the virgo?
Speaker 3 (46:00):
Do you have the I have the virgo in myself note,
but I have a six house sun. And for people
listening that know their Sun signed placement, that the house
that your son is placed in, and you know the
ruler of that house. So in a six house in
that case, it's Virgo, so I have the Virgo quality
kind of overlay to my Gemini sun.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
Oh cooyah.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
Yeah, thank you so much. I have learned so much today, Natasha.
I'm going to link your pod in the show notes
as well. Amazing and your Insta as well, because you're
always put really great updates and reels about what's going
on with retrogrades and new moons and four moons.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
And so much. So thank you, so so much.
Speaker 1 (46:44):
You have got me so excited for the next chunk
of time as well. I literally fly back to America
very soon, and you've got me feeling really ready and
empowered for that. And I think also just trusting myself
because a lot of it was oh yeah, I do
work best alone. Oh yeah, I do that. Like a
lot of it was like that that feels right for me.
(47:05):
So I really appreciate you sharing. And I know it
would to take time for you to do those charts
for me, so I really appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (47:11):
It's my absolute pleasure. It's always a privilege to read
a chart. So yeah, and as you're talking, I'm getting
more little signs and things in my head that I
have to zip at being a Gemini in overtime.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
Oh my god. End on one last thing and then
I'll wrap it up.
Speaker 3 (47:25):
Well, I was just saying, you know that the travel
aspect is so good for you because that's a Sagittarian
thing as well.
Speaker 1 (47:30):
So you're a bit of a gypsy girl at heart. Yeah,
big time, big time. Thank you so much. I cannot
wait to do this again.
Speaker 3 (47:36):
My pleasure. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
That's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing. As always,
thank you to our guests, and let's continue the conversation
on Instagram. I'm at yumo lollaberry. This potty my word
for podcast is available on all streaming platforms. I'd love
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