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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Get a. I'm Lalla Berry, nutritionist, author, actor, TV presenter,
and professional oversharer. This podcast is all about celebrating failure
because I believe it's a chance for us to learn,
grow and face our blind spots. Each week, I'll interview
a different guest about their highs as well as their lows,
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all in a bid to inspire us to fearlessly fail. Hello,
Welcome to the Powder, Hello to the listener. Guess who's
on the Potter Rooney.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Your current boyfriend, Matt's my current friend.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
That for everybody. That is a TikTok trend that I
tried to do with you when you got back from Australia,
and I was I'm one of those people that laughs
way too early at the joke, so I can't even
land the joke.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Yeah, you can't get the punchline out.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
I can't get the punchlin out ever, So I made
a TikTok about Yeah, but there's this TikTok at the
moment where girls are going, oh, I'm making dinner with
my current boyfriend, and you watch these guys' faces.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
All drop and it's like their husbands and yeah, oh
this is.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
My current husband and they've got a little kid. It's
very funny. Okay, welcome back to the pod. Thank you, Booby,
thank you and listener. This is a welcome back episode
for the Boss.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
There's also a little reason for this episode specifically.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Yeah, well, I was like, oh, I don't need a
whole welcome back episode. There's a reason for it. Okay,
there's a reason for it.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
So I want I did this when I got back
from Australia because I got back how much before you, like.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Five weeks before me? What'd you do?
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Sorry?
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Okay, okay, cock, go get the bat trying to landed
joke that I can't even get get it out?
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Sorry, okay, Sorry for everyone that has had twenty seconds
of laughter for no reason. Okay, So the reason I
wanted to.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Say, Lola obviously had something funny to say, we're digress
and then and then just laughed at her own joke
in her head before she could get her out.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
And I can't. I can't now that I've done.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
It, and you're holding up a giant red paper post
the paper.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Because I want to do this with you, because it
is we're recording this in the middle of the year
and at the end of the year. I do that
male Robin seven questions then when you take a bit
of stock. So I want to take a bit of
stock with you halfway through the year. We've you spent
two and a half months in Australia.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Yeah, maybe almost three.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Three months in Australia. I spent a month in Australia
and came straight back because of the pilot, which has
been fun. So I think we do a check in
on like being back in LA but I also want
to do and invite you, the listener, to do a
stock take for the middle of the year. This was
all inspired by my friend Schanew or our friend Schanow,
who's an actress that lives out here and she's.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Just done a friend. I invited her to a gig
tomorrow and she's like, no, I hate you, I don't
want to go.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Okay, that joke is an even funny boss, because the
truth is she has an big audition tomorrow anyway, so
plans with their mum Yes, oh my god, boss. So
basically it's about doing a stock take. So all the
questions that I'm going to ask the boss, you can
write these down at home and ask yourself the same questions.
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But first I want to do a little welcome back
to la How do you feel?
Speaker 2 (03:54):
I feel good?
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Highlight of Australia you can give me three?
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Very hard to be honest, I think obviously, Byron. Yeah,
we love it like favorite place on Earth, you know,
our home. Everything we love about home in Australia. Yeah,
it's our home. Love everything about Byron. Loved being there,
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Love being there with you, my beloved, love seeing our friends.
There was that the highlight?
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Would you say that was just one of the highlights
that that.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Was one of the highlights of Australia you said three highlights?
So that that obviously, really just being with you is
a highlight. Always in hard work though, yeah, but in
holiday mode, being with you like we were, you know,
certain parts of it were holiday mode.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
We've just booked a little holiday in Palm Springs.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Yes we did. And then third unexpected highlight And obviously
this came about because of my changing plans, but I
ended up going back and staying with my parents for
a month.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
This is while you're waiting for you visus, correct.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Yes, So that ended up being a highlight as well
because I got to spend that time with my family
and I saw my nephews like so much, and I
got to hang out with them and my niece, sorry
nephews and niece and take them out and do fun
things and really connect with them. And that ended up
being a highlight too. And three that was three being
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with you in general in holiday modes and like some
relaxing days, we went to the beach swam and then yeah,
three the unexpected extra time of the family.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
And I'm only bringing this up because you bought this
up in the shower last night, okay, which you'd had
a little bit of red wine while I was You
showed me. I hope your parents listen to this podcast
because you showed me a new addition to your arm.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Oh I'm going to say something so much ruder than that.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
No, so boss has got what have you got?
Speaker 2 (06:20):
I've got a little tattoo on my own and what
sort of it's a little.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Berry and what's my name?
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Berry?
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Lola Berry. And so this whole time since he got it,
he's like, no, no, it's not, it's not dedicated to you.
It's really it's just like what you represent me, which
is about facing fear. That's what he said. Legit, guys,
that's what he keeps telling me. Last night, three or
four venos deep, we're in the shower and he looks
me dead in the eyes. I got that tattooed for you,
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for you, because you're my beloved. Do you know you
said that to me?
Speaker 2 (06:55):
I know I said it to you, but it to
be really honest with you.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Yes, he's not making eye contact with me right now,
just so.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
You don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Okay, now he is. Now he is.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
The tattoo is for you, and it represents you, but
it represents you as a person that got me out
of my I suppose comfort zone and into the bigger world. Okay,
that's it is you. But that's the reason why I
got it to remind myself of like to be fearless. Yeah,
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where I came and I'm not going to go fucking
fearless written on my arm Like that's icky totally.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
So just we've got that on recording one more time.
The tatoo is a dedication to me. Well yes, and no, oh,
here we go, here's the dancing.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
If you're ever not my current girlfriend, then it's just
the cute little berry on my.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Arm that will always remind you of me.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Maybe maybe maybe not, maybe I dislike berries. Well, your
highlights come on.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Of the I've got mine written down off the trip. Yeah, okay,
so I've written one of the highlights. I wrote flying
Business Class with Boo, which we did on points. I've
written here feet in the Ocean with Boo, Nature Time
with Boo, and then I listed some of my favorite
things within Byron like woods, Doma, acupuncture, Mayo, se and
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koalas Lighty what else farmers Market are really good things.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
I got gifted all that spell clothing. That was a
cool highlight. We saw Byron's sunsets. I did some hiking
at Sunrise which went really really really special when we
were staying, we were staying in Byron Town. So that
was my highlights. But okay, so these questions are I
want these to be a like of the year. Yeah,
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so we've done you know, we've been here for the fires.
We've been here like so like in and I'm gonna
ask you these seven questions. So welcome back to La Woo.
We missed you. Okay, but we're six months through the year.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Which is weird, weird, and I also feel like it's
still the start of the year. It doesn't I.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Know it feels like March to me, don't you feel.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Yeah, that's exactly what it feels like.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Okay, so we're going to ask these more general and
to you, the listener. You can write these questions down
and ask these to yourself. So question one, of the
last six months, name three highlights? Oh, my lord, not
just the trip. The trip can be one. Yeah, me
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to go. I'll tell you why.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
It feels hard because the first three months of this
year I feel like last year.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
I know so because we went to Australia.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Because Australian and then that felt like we no like
the start of the year. You go first though, Okay.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Three highlights of the last six months for me would
be shooting the Pilot because that was my first paid
actor job. How cool. Another career one would be signing
I've signed with an amazing theatrical red beautiful Holly. Another,
I would say our Byron time was a real highlight,
and I loved recording the pods in Australia, but also
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like we recorded filmed pods in La last week. That
was fucking epic. Yeah, And then I would say you
and me stuff. I would probably say, like right, I
don't know if you remember this, but right before we
went to Lau and I had a little whiskey date
on the roof and watch the sunset went to Australia
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before we went to Australia up on our roof here
when in la in February. Okay, like just little dates,
you and me, you know, a little little home, little
pockets and magic. But yeah, yeah with you and obviously
in Byron too. I loved that we splurged a bit
and got that Airbnb and Watergoes yeah, which I fought
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for a bit.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Water Goes. It was not in water Goes.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Oh where was it?
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Where was it not in water Goes? Right in Byron.
It's really close to like Dolphins Beach, And no, what
is that Suffolk? Yeah, close to like Suffolk.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
There's a special beach name there, Whites.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
No, No, it's Dolphins Beach. We're very close to it.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
And we saw the sun set there and it was
like a rainforest where we stayed. Yeah, no, like it
was all green and lush and all that. Yeah, dolphins,
that's Dolphins Beach.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Okay, I love that.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
That's nice. Filtered water, filtered water.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
I totally booked that again.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Yeah, it was good.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Okay, Okay, what your highlights are you?
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Okay, well, yeah, definitely. Look, I'm actually going to be real.
When we were gearing up to go back to Australia,
I was not. I was kind of like, fuck, if
I didn't have to go back, I don't want to
go back. You did say that I wasn't like ready
to go back, but I had to, obviously because I
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had to do some stuff in Australia, which we can
get too later. But it did become a highlight. King
of Byron and realizing that, like, I mean, I missed it,
but how much I missed it, and how much I
love being there, and you know, it's so easy, it's easier.
I miss our house like all those things. Another highlight
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of the year. I've obviously like work and everything wise.
I've loved everything that I've been able to do a
lot of, like creative projects and this.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
And that, and you've been NonStop working.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Yeah, what would you like? Oh my Jesus Christ, I'm
just going to ignore that. No, that's not going anywhere.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Are you keeping it in the pod?
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (13:02):
People think that's rude.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Well, okay, did we go to did we do any
trips at the start of the year. I don't remember.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Yeah, I did TV, remember I did kat La and
then we went to Joshua Tree that day after the fires.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Yeah that was fab? Was that fab? I was really
unwell though, Remember I had like the end of like
a really bad cold because of Yeah, I think the
air and the fires and stuff like that. But we
still went to Papkin Harriet's.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
And was amazing. We're going back, yeah, mum, Yeah, can
we get some more of that?
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Yes, we will get a bottle of that whiskey. Okay,
So yeah, I don't know that I have like three
specific highlights. I think a big highlight for me is, yes,
just being able to when we have a moment together
to just sit, go on the roof and chill for
a minute. I agree because I think that our lives
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are quite busy and we have shit on like every day,
every fucking week, and if you don't take the time
to just stop and do that, then your whole life
like passes you by. And even to be honest, like
being in Australia, I was like I was quite stressed
a lot of the time, and I was trying to
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work and I was doing all these other things, and
I was like, did it really change the outcome? Feeling
that stressed? You know, like I didn't need to be
that stressed. I didn't need to be that worried for
the same exact outcome.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
The whole thing is now worried often over that won't
ever happen, is the whole thing about.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
And it's like I wish that I worried a little
bit less and was a bit more present. I feel
like in some of the days, not like obviously the
whole time, but you know, sometimes I was like, no,
I was a bit not present because I was feeling stressed.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
So I think a lot of people can relate to
that though.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Yeah, so I think worry less, have the moments we
can just sit together, be present, enjoy I love that.
Watch your sunset, little can noodling, can noodling. Yeah, okay,
what's you low lights?
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Fires?
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (15:17):
But I stressful. Do we want to admit what you did?
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Got ship faced?
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Yeah? He went to our friend's house. This is not
a word of a lie. I'm working at the Yogre studio,
slaving my guts out. My days are like nine hour
days plus an hour is way driving and He's like,
I'm just going to head to Sam and Nard's house
for a little little fino. Okay, cool, no props. Yeah,
I'm such a chill girlfriend. No probs, don't worry. I'll
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totally be home by the time you're back from work. Cool,
no probs, get back from work now. Meanwhile, I've started
to get sick from the air quality, and so I'm
finding it really hard to breathe. I've got humidifiers going
at this stage, air filters, and I'm working myself up.
I'm stressing myself. You are and I'm like, get home,
and I'm like, don't worry. I knew how to acting school.
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I was just learning my lines of acting school. I
had a super eaty guy. Was just trying to like
do all the hell things feel really like good, knew
I had to go to work.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
You're really calling me out here.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
This is not a word of a lie. I also
am scared of vomit. Yeah, we just pop that in there.
Old mate gets home at two am, after I've checked
in like three or four times. You okay, I'll just
have one more glass.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
I was communicative the whole time.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
I was your timeline's just got warped.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Yeah, but it's not like I was not answering or
writing back. He was exactly what I wear. I was
what I was doing, who I.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Was with with legends.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
You're with legends, absolutely yeah, like our good friends. Like
not a single moment of like m I A.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
No, there was absolutely nothing shady.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
In his behavior. I thank you. I just want that
on record. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
It just you know, when you have a drink and
it just the time.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Mike, it goes right go, You're going to say that
and then I'm going to defend myself.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Okay. So he gets home and lord knows why, makes
himself a fizzy magnesium for nighttime. So he's got all
that delish fino churning around in his stomach because at
a really early dinner he eats like a sparrow anyway
you do it, not loads sometimes, then has fizzy magian,
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then gets into bed and then not twenty seconds later,
is hurling his guts up in the bathroom and I'm like,
fucking hell, here we go. So I hate vomit. I'm like,
all right, be a good girlfriend. I go fill up
a glass of water for him. This is after it
hasn't stopped for twenty minutes, by the way, it's not
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like a one and done situation. And I'm like, fucking hell.
Then all of a sudden, he goes quiet right, goes
quite in the bathroom, and he has a tendency to
lock himself in the bathroom. Heaven bit. I don't know
why anyway, because I like to walk in office. So
finally I was like, okay, it sounds like he's not
in a spewing fiasco right now. I knock on the door.
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Boo boo, nothing booboo. This is like in the middle
of the night. I opened the door, not a word
of a lie. He's sprawled out, He's got his boxer
shorts on, ball hanging out, one leg, asleep against the
wall next to the toilet bowl. And I go this.
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He's like, oh, hello, wakes up, booboo. Go what happened?
Do we have one too many venos? He looks at
me dead in the face and says, oh, no motion
sickness from the tesla on the way home? Are you kidding?
I wanted to throw that water at you. Didn't just
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gave you the water.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
I was like, come on, go on, there you go,
all right, you've completely under the bus. No.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
This is like I would tell anyone, this isn't okay.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
This is first of all, let's just put this out there.
This is not normal behavior and has happened twice to me.
This is true.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
I will admit I have taken my drinking too far
at times.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
You've you've we're equal, we are equal. In the last
eight years, we have both had two occasions each, right,
which is not bad, but two occasions each in the
last eight years that we've both had a little too
much to drink.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
And of those two fifty percent were in natural or
in disasters. Mine was during COVID, yeah, and yours was
during the fires, and so naturally, let's be real pressure reliever.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Yeah, exactly. So the fires, I'd been inside. I hadn't
been out for god knows how long. I haven't left
the apartment, I haven't whatever. And then our friends like
they were like, yeah, just come over like wine, and
I'm like great, Like I'm not doing anything.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
No, And I think, look to be real when you're
in a disaster, like to feel connected to other people
and to kind of like I think, the Australian way.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
So the thing is, yes, we did have a few
wines and then did you say the wild turkey got
came out well, and then two more bottles of wine
got delivered, so then we were basically had a bottle each.
And then after that the buffalo trace came out.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Of a blow. So that is that's Kentucky bourbon, right.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Yeah, it's what they have on your lifstone, you know. Yeah. Yeah,
there's like a bar scene there, like I'll have a
buffalo trace. I've never had one anyway, So I had
a few whiskeys, and I was not in that exact
moment when I left the house, I was like just good,
you know, like I wasn't like drunk and stumbling. I
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was just like I knew I'd had a few drinks,
but I was like very looseid, I was very normal, right,
Like at no, at no point was I like a
messy or anything like that. So I called myself an
uber A get in the uber talking to the guy la.
You know, they're a little bit rough and they're driving,
and I did start feeling a little bit nauseous in
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the car, and I was like, oh, my stomach does
feel a little bit churning. But I'm very aware and
I'm like, okay, I'll be home in five minutes. It's fine.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Just you know, at what point did you think magnesium
was a good idea?
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Yeah? Well then I thought, well, I've been drinking a bit,
a bit dehydrated. I better have some magnesium, so I
have the fizzy drink. And yes, immediately that set you off. Well,
I got into bed and as soon as I laid
down on my back, then my entire world started spinning
and I was like, Noah, I'm done. I have to
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get up and get this out. No. Yeah, yeah, I
think the worst part about all that is I woke
up the next day Rider's range.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
I know, and that yeah you did, and he was
happy as larry, and I was like, I could throttle you.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Right now, being like I was fine, okay, so yeah, okay,
anyway you've.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Just like no, but let's talk about let's talk about.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
I don't have any low lights. That's actually what this
story has come from. Really, that's not a low light
for me. I was like, okay, that was a fuck up.
And in my thirty nine years, right, I've I've vomited
three times from alcohol. Actually no, that's a lie. Four
times from alcohol, and I can tell you all four
times in my entire life. I've never been like an
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over drinker.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
No, no, no, we're both well. I definitely even less.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
I was like once when I was sixteen, once like
when I was like, was it like uzo? When you
were sixteen was like DLS? And then once at like
twenty three, twenty four maybe or twenty five, and then
you're like thirty two and then thirty eight.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Do you know you love this? You know? My good
friend Tim, Yeah, in Melbourne, we used to both both
buy a bottle of blush. It's like Shampogne champagne, and
one day I threw up. Anyway, Okay, can I say
my low lights the last six months? So for me
when with traveling, one thing I learned we traveled around
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a lot. We were staying with a lot of different people.
I don't like the feeling of feeling out of control
with food. I think that's like a lag from having
an eating disorder in my twenties. So I noticed that
cropped up a little bit when we were traveling around
all the time. I would say like twenty to thirty percent.
I'd be like, oh, I'm struggling right now, and I'd
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say it to you. I'd be like I'm I'm I
don't feel or I would feel like in an environment
where I didn't have control of my choices and that
would upset me. But I'm doing a lot of work
with my therapists now around that actually, but that for
me was hard and I did actually and I only
know this I would have totally forgotten only not because
I've written it down. I binged in Melbourne. Do you
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remember that?
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Not?
Speaker 1 (23:59):
I think I Well, it says binged in Melbourne.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Was I there? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Yeah, I think I would go to the chocolate dile
like Woolies or whatever, or coals and get all those
keen yeah, but then we get marvelous creation.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Yeah, there was a few occasions.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Yeah, but then I would also get treats and it
was just kind of like old behavior from when I
had eating problems. Yeah, so that was definitely a down.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
I understand that, like even me staying and I was
with friends on my own and as welcoming and as
incredible and can do whatever you want when you stay
there in their house, it's not your own space, it's
not your own house. So like an element of you
always does feel a little bit not full in control. Yeah,
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and totally like with my parents, no, because obviously I
grew up in that house.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Yeah, even when I'm back at Dad's as opposed to mums,
I feel it's easier for me. Obviously. That is like
a chill bean too. You feel all right Dad's place,
don't you, Yes, dads yeah, whereas mum love you mum,
but a little bit more controlling and so we don't
have as much control over our time, you know, which
is like to be fair, probably where a bit of
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my control stuff has come from as well. But I
would say like that the fires were hard for me
because I worked closer to the specific palisades, Like that
was a really hard I struggled a bit mentally, I
would say that week. Yeah, any other low lights probably
for me, just with the acting stuff, like sitting in
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the like obviously you're sitting in a lot of rejection
energy and it's so fine when you know, no, no,
it's just a numbers game. You're going to get it,
yes eventually. But on some days your brain tricks you
and doubt will win, and so I think those days
are hard, and I've also found it and there's no
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secret here I talk about on the pod direct I
find it very hard to balance sometimes working at the
Yolk Studio with like being able to audition and take
a callback and you know, have really good opportunities. You've
got to be able to kind of like be very
malleable and fluid with your time when I've got to
set structure and schedule to stick to as well, And
(26:18):
sometimes I feel like I miss out on opportunities. That's
my phone. I don't know why it's going off so much,
so that would I would say like that's something that
I'm still working on. But I've made a deal that
I'm doing therapy every two weeks now because I think
that'll help me build massively clearer boundaries and structure around
(26:38):
what's important to me.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Yeah. I had a bit of self doubt creep in
this past week too, to be honest. Really, Yeah, what
from well, like see the show that I'm working on. Yeah,
there's two other composers on the show. Yeah, and they're
doing different things that I'm doing, So yeah, like doing
I'm doing like the underscore and they're doing someone like
(27:01):
the moral orchestral and other bits. And even I was like,
oh am I good enough? Am I really as good
as they are? And I'm like I because obviously we're
very different. So I very much try to never compare
myself to other people because I don't do what they
do and they don't do what I do. Yeah, but
(27:23):
then I was like, oh am I actually good enough
to be working with them and doing it?
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Is it because people that write more orchestral music are
often more classically drained?
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Yeah, they are, which I'm not, Which does.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
That sometimes make you feel.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Yeah, a little bit, But I do just try to
go back to the fact that I'm like, what I
do is very individual to me.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
And I imagine it's extremely intuitive, and so you need
the doubt to be fucking out the door in order
to do the best work you need to do, right.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Yeah. Yeah, So like obviously I played my strengths and
not compare, but I probably did do a bit of
that this week.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
You also, when you're in Australia, did a lot of therapy,
didn't you?
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Yea once a week, did every single week?
Speaker 1 (28:09):
How what was like if you could say, like from
like day one to like I think you've got four
or five sessions into like that fifth session, like did
you feel like a sense of clarity or ease or.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Absolutely yeah, because I started feeling like my anxiety returning
in Melbourne, and I realized that a lot of that
came from Obviously, we haven't lived in Melbourne for I
don't even know now.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
We've never lived together in Melbourne. Do you know that
we've lived in talking together? Okay, yeah, but we've never
we started dating in Melbourn we never lived together.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
But so, but we haven't even lived in Melbourne for
the better part of five years. So I feel like
some of the old anxiety triggers and memories and things
came back while I was there. Like, obviously we've being
back to Melbourne heaps, but I was never never been
long enough to I suppose reflect and yeah, spending a
(29:08):
whole month, I was like, oh, maybe I am Actually
there was feeling more anxious and there was a few
little spots in my anxiety that I probably hadn't dealt
with and faced.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Oh how good is that?
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Though? Yeah? So then like now definitely, like, yeah, next
time we go back, I'm like, I've definitely processed all
that stuff. How good? Yeah? But yeah, so that's probably
like the biggest difference.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
I'm proud of you.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Yeah, And I think it's like very location based, you know,
like you can't just run away from your problems, like
your problems follow you. But being here, you're not reminded
of previous anxiety because you're not in that space. And
when I was back in those spaces, yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
It was like it was really easily reactivated.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Yeah exactly. I was like I remember being here like
as a young adult and having anxiety here anyway, So curl.
But the cool thing is is, yeah, it works, work
through a lot of cuts.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Well, my next question is lessons. What lessons would you
say you've learned in the last six months.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Hmm.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
You go first for me, and this is obviously still
a biggie, but boundaries. I'm getting better and better at
and being really comfortable in going either no, thank you
or I'm going to need some time to think about that,
which sounds so easy. But when you're in the moment
and somebody has got another outcome that they want to happen,
(30:40):
and they need you to say yes, and it's not
necessarily like them manipulating you or anything, it's just easier
for them if you say yes in the moment, it's
really hard to have the clarity to go, oh, no,
thank you, that doesn't serve me. Oh, thank you so much.
I'm going to need to think about that.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Though.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
It's like saying it on a pod like this is
one thing, but like being under the pressure of like
being a bit tired, being in a different environment, someone
being like, it's going to really help me if you
do this thing. Yeah, Like it's so hard to have
the courage to do that in real person. So I
feel like in real time, I feel like my boundaries
(31:20):
has been like a huge thing that I've been working
on in the last six months, and I think that's
something I'm going to work on more and more. Like
my mum is amazing but wanted me to go to
New York with her, and we just crunched the numbers
and I was like, I can't do New York and
Memphis and Nashville and Joshua Tree, like we need to
make some calls as to what we do together. And
(31:42):
you know, her initial response was, oh, but you promised,
do you remember that?
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Yeah, which you didn't.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
No, no, but and old me would have been, oh, fuck, okay,
I'll just find a way to make it happen. Whereas
like we actually sat in the discomfort and had a
converse and then we're like, no, let's do like Memphis.
I've never been. Let's do an elvistrip. Mum's mad Elvis fad.
And I think for me, the boundary thing has been
(32:11):
a big one. And I don't know if you remember,
but a lot of friends wanted to catch up with us,
and I said no, quite a lot, just because I
was like, there is no time for that. And I
think that like the older we get, like we're both
thirty nine, and the more you realize that time is
really our only currency and you've got to be careful
about like how you spend it and where you spend it,
(32:33):
and like I know, for me, one of the highlights
of Australia was going to an MCG match with Dad.
But that meant saying no to a couple of mates. Yeah,
that's right, and that meant I was less available to
other people as a result. But like Dad's dad and
I email once a week. We're pimpals. And because he
just doesn't like FaceTime and WhatsApp and all those things.
(32:53):
And the first thing he wrote to me when I
got to LA was I loved going to the MCG.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
With you, Like it was really importantly shared his passion.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
He loves that ye allbit a terrible match and they
were thrash and like it's the only time you'll ever
see my dad curse. But yeah, I think I think
also like knowing, like knowing that I was feeling a
little bit out of control like food and our space wise,
(33:22):
and then pulling that trigger at the end of the
trip to like have that Airbnb and Byron and make
our own meals. Yeah, I know that that had a
huge impact on my mental health. And so I think
like staying in charge of my own time is really
really and investing in ourselves. Like we are seeing Mum
and Joshua Tree in a few weeks. You and I
(33:43):
just pulled a trigger and to do a night extra
in Palm Springs, just you and me at a wellness
retreat resort like those kind of things. Then I've booked
myself some a of eighting massage.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
You've got to have those, even if it's just like
one extra night, Like you've got to have that.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Which is a beautiful boundary piece in a way.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
But also for couples and people like you don't even
have to go and spend money, no, you know, you
can find something just to take you out of your
normal routine and space and do it, and I think
that's important.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
I definitely think like my boundaries have gotten even gotten
that's bad English. My boundaries have gotten stronger, and I
always had fantastic I think that even now, I'm just
very comfortable and like no, thank you.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Yeah, so you're better. I'm like, he's so you are
so confident though, whereas like, as someone that has had
an indish or I think confidence is my first thing
to sway.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
I think though that I think about it as and
as someone that's had extremely bad anxiety, extreme like you've
seen me have the worst anxiety. I refuse to ever
put myself in a position that would make me like
feel like that or triggered or whatever it is. So
(35:00):
if if there is something that I'm like that is
absolutely not for me, I'm like no, And like you know,
even if Pepe's like, oh, come on, let's do this,
I'm like, no, yeah, you're really good. And to be honest,
if they feel very funny, what does that mean? It
means I don't like it, antonia. If they feel uncomfortable
(35:20):
by you saying no, that's their fucking shit. Yeah, like
you're good friends would never make you feel like shit,
or your family or whatever for you saying no.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
No, there's a really good thing going around as well
about like your good friends celebrate you wins. You're not
your friends like get a bit jealous of you wins. Yeah,
and I think like late thirties you figure that shit
out real quick.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Yeah, but as well, like even yeah, I mean all
my friends have never been like pressure friends. But if
anyone's been like, oh, hey, I'm not drinking tonight, or
and it's like no one cares, you know, there's no like, oh,
come on, just do this, it's like, which, no one
fucking cares. Do whatever you want, live your own life.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Yeah. Anyway, you're very supportive of that with me too,
by the way. You teach me that even we've got
a gig tomorrow night and I couldn't go unless I
got in a bit of trouble at what, like it
would have been hard for me to get the time
off work, And you're like, okay, well then let's sort
it out so that there's someone else exactly.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
That's fine. Yeah, I'm not bothered.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
No, you are amazing like that. Okay, So the next question.
So the first question is highlight, second question low lights,
third question of lessons, which we've just talked about. Fourth question,
What am I going to stop doing for the second
half of the year that you've done the first half
of the year you don't want to? You know what
I mean? What are you going to stop doing?
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Oh? I stop doing. I'm going to stop feeling like
I need to wait for things to come to me
and go after more Ooh nice, Yeah, create more, create
(36:58):
more opportunity.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Nice, Because I realized that I've always anything that has
been successful or you know, beneficial financially career. It's like
an opportunity that I've created in a certain way.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Yeah, I love that. I wrote What am I going
to stop doing? Shit I don't want to do?
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Yeah? I love that.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
And I've said I'm going to stop saying yes when
I really want to say no, and I'm going to
start investing in myself and my own space.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Yep. Maybe adding the overthinking.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Yeah, I'm an overthinker. I'm a realer. It's actually been
really interesting booking stuff with mum because Mum's also an overthinker,
and I had to stop her the other day. We'll
planning our Graceland tour, which I've organized for a birthday,
and she was like, what should we do? Go what time?
And like she was like we should we go at
ten or should we go at eleven? I don't know, girl,
(37:56):
what do you think? And I go, hey, you do
this thing that I I do. I'm like, you go
back and forth on an idea about fifteen times too many.
I do the exact same thing and I'm telling you
now stop. And it was so nice because it wasn't
me like being bossy boots with her. It was me
(38:17):
being like, I do the same thing. I get it,
I get it. Let's just lock something in.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
And how much time is lost on indecision? It has
to And it's like, what's the fucking difference ten or eleven?
Like in the grand scheme life, you could have done
both and it's not going to affect you in the future.
So it's like, why spend all that fucking time worrying
about like such a small fucking detail. And that's what
I say to you as well. I'm like I do
(38:41):
it all the time, and I'm like, who cares?
Speaker 1 (38:43):
But I also thought, like even we were booking Palm Springs,
before and I'm booking that aubatic massage and I was like,
I did to book it for two or three? And
then in my brain I play out, oh, no, we're
going to get there at two. Oh we're gonna want
a little sauna in a little all hang together, and
you're like yeah, great, yeah great, Whereas I'm like, or
(39:04):
do I want to have this message first? I play
it all out in my head.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
And realistically, what's the fucking difference?
Speaker 1 (39:11):
Doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
You're gonna get there, you're gonna have a great massage,
you're gonna be in the room. We're gonna have a
great fucking time. I thought you're gonna say something a
bit ruder, We're gonna fuck So people do that, boss,
that's how babies made.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
You could say like make sweet love, make whoopee, not
not woopy.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
I think I think that the decision paralysis that people have,
and I think that I used to have it too,
to be honest, Like I remember trying to organize things.
I'm like, okay this or that, or I still get
a lot of what time should I fly? To be honest,
I had a lot of decision paralysis flying from Byron
(39:57):
to Melbourne.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
And and Melbourne to La and I was like, please
book it on this day and You're like, but there's
less chance beginning upgrade because it looks like this less
and I'm like, you're going to get the upgrade exactly nothing, right.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
But we had one call about it, right.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
You were absolute yeah, because I was starting to feel
anxious about it.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
You like that out on you. Of course that's your
job though, But the decision was made within the hour
right of being presented with the three options. Yeah, we
just in that discomfort. Yeah, but at the end of
the day, the decision was made. The best suit the
time that you can pick me up. So yeah, that's
(40:44):
how the decision was made. And make you a little
poster rooney. So but the thing is like, although I
was indecisive about Friday, Saturday or Sunday, once I incorporated
you into that decision making, you were like, well this
bests me. And I was like, okay, there's the best
chance for an upgrade on this day, but there's still
(41:06):
a chance on this day, but that suits you better.
So I was like, that's the day that we do it.
And did you get the upgrade? Yes? I did on
my points huh. On my points, my points, I'll my points.
We'll see anyway. So yeah, but yeah I had it
as well going from Byron to Melbourne because I couldn't
(41:27):
like it was really you get a crazy delay. Yeah
they don't have a big delay, but anyway, it doesn't matter.
But yeah, I get it anyway, keep the next question because.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
Question five, okay, question five, what are you going to
start doing?
Speaker 2 (41:41):
Hmm?
Speaker 1 (41:42):
Drop me to kick it off, because I think gives
you juices and I've obviously filled this out and taken
the time prioritize happiness and freedom, movement, health goals like
you united did it, waits at the gym and then
the other thing since obviously, as you know, I have
a massive crash on Marcus Mumford. Yeah you know, yeah,
(42:03):
because when I watch my mumfd and son's tiktoks at night,
You're like, are you watching your boyfriend?
Speaker 2 (42:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (42:09):
Absolutely, But this has learnt from him. When he wrote
an album, he said, I'm going to set myself the
task to write as honestly as I can and to
essentially just be relentlessly honest, and that is something I
want to live from that space, to be relentlessly honest.
I think you and I live that way.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
Yeah, yeah, we do.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
But to really like sit in that outside of just
you and I is something I want to.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
Aspire to love that. Yeah, what's the question again, what
are you going to start doing? Ah? I think that
I still need to continue to believe in myself more.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
Well, the next question is what are you going to
continue to do? Well?
Speaker 2 (42:51):
I think, yeah, continue to believe myself more. What am
I going to start to do? I don't know. That's
a hard one. I feel like I feel like I'm
in a good flow of taking care of myself. Yeah, yeah,
maybe do you know what?
Speaker 1 (43:11):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (43:12):
No, more, I think I probably need to get back
to gym a little bit more.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
That's what you're going to continue to do? I would say?
I would say jim yoga movement.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
Because I was doing all that in Australia and then
this last week I've done.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
Nothing besides warehouse. We've been house sitting as well.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
Yeah, I don't know what I'm going to start to do.
I'm going to leave that question because there's nothing that's
really jumping out.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
And then continue to do is the movement stuff?
Speaker 2 (43:37):
Yeah? Like therapy, Yeah, therapy, the movement stuff and like
believe in myself more.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
Do you want to know it was on my list
to contribute it? You're going to laugh, Be in nature,
continue being in acting school, continue therapy, make time to
hang with dad. Laser that's anti aging, skin laser, podcasting,
botox that's also anti aging. See sunrises and sunsets. And
(44:11):
one thing I really want to continue doing whenever we
travel to Australia is starting to end in Myron Bay.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
Which we are next trip. Yeah, well we're starting ding.
We haven't decided to.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
So the final question of this is what can you
start today to start making the changes you want to change.
So we've done one of them. We've done weight training
today at the gym. We've gone out for an air
one Healthy Eats.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
Talk about the smooth that you had Cowboy Colostrum.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
Yeah, well we're members so we get a free smoothie
once a month. It's so good. And this was like
a cold brew coffee with colostrum maple syrup. It was
like assalted maple. What do you say? It tasted like
tear me, Sue, It tastes like can you I've also
been going down the tiktop rabbit hole of Dove Cameron
(45:07):
her Italian boyfriend Dominico. What's his name?
Speaker 2 (45:10):
I don't know. I've seen the videos.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
Can you teach? So there's a few things where he teaches,
like a couple of cool Australia Italian sayings. Did you
know about the sleepiness one when your body feels like
it's overcome sleeper or something?
Speaker 2 (45:26):
Non?
Speaker 1 (45:28):
Do you know the saying that people yell out of
Italian football? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (45:33):
That's that's like it's pretty insulting you say in Italian. No,
I don't remember what it is in Italian, but it's
basically like f you and your dead relative. Yeah, it's
like pretty insulting what Eddie says, don't mess with Italians?
Speaker 1 (45:46):
Yeah, so I guess like, do you have anything like
like you just taught us Nemi piacci.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
That just means I don't like it?
Speaker 1 (45:56):
How do you say it.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
Nice?
Speaker 1 (46:00):
Can you teach us just like tim more littlies?
Speaker 2 (46:02):
Please?
Speaker 1 (46:02):
I don't know, you don't like?
Speaker 2 (46:03):
Well, I feel like you should have prepared me for
this because like.
Speaker 1 (46:06):
What about isn't there like the one beautiful this beautiful life?
Speaker 2 (46:12):
Yeah, that's that's like pretty common.
Speaker 1 (46:15):
What's what's like like like there's gonna be like a
nice saying like I love you very much, your beautiful thing.
Oh my god, he's rolling his eyes come on.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
Like Italians like, I don't know. They say a lot
of things like like even the guy, and then in
the interviews like you know, Stigazzi like, which means like the.
Speaker 1 (46:42):
Dicks, but it also means it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
Yeah, you know, and it's it's like a lot of
things like that. You know, but people say, like, you know,
in English, you say, oh my god, it's like Madonna. Yeah,
you know, so they have they have those kind of
being home, did you speak a little bit more Italian? Yeah,
a little bit, not heaps.
Speaker 1 (47:02):
So your parents are fluent, Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
No, it's not as fluent anymore, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
I'm gonna keep telling we better take me to Italy
one day.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
Yes, we'll go to Italy one day.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
So the stuff that you're going to start doing today
is movement, keeping up with a therapy, working on yourself.
Is anything you want to achieve in the next six months, Yes,
that you're comfortable sharing here.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
No, I really want to get off the ground. Yeah,
some extra stuff in America and creative projects that you
and I are working on. And just I know that, like,
(47:53):
this is not your style, but my style is like,
let's create a lot and then see what works.
Speaker 1 (48:00):
Of Yeah, whereas I'll hyper focus on that.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
Yeah, you hyper focus on one thing, where I'm like,
let's just make fifty things and if let's hope that
one of them like pops off.
Speaker 1 (48:11):
But I think that what works with that is like
he'll then send me his fifty ideas and then I'll
really like.
Speaker 2 (48:17):
I realized that I'm very macro and you're very micro.
Speaker 1 (48:20):
Is that what it is?
Speaker 2 (48:21):
Yeah, So I'm very like big picture overall goal.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
So you're more of a director's brain. I'm more of
a producer's brain. Remember on the podcast and a way we're
talking about their differences being one was more like actor director, yeah,
and the other one was more producer writer.
Speaker 2 (48:39):
Yeah. It's kind of like say, say, if we're writing something, yeah,
I'll like come up with a big idea. I'll like
have like the big idea or the big idea of
a character. Yeah, and then you break down every single
little character development trait, fucking what colors their fun toenails,
(49:02):
you know, where I couldn't give a shit about that,
but you develop something from an overall picture, like, so
I probably do outline and then you color it in
with complexity.
Speaker 1 (49:17):
I would agree with that it's dricking. That's because of
writing books, and so I've had to do have the
ideas because I used to pitch many ideas to publishers
and they'd be like, go away and do that one,
and then I just deep dive and essentially like get
really specific.
Speaker 2 (49:31):
Yeah, So I love doing the overall thing and then
handing it to you to do the bits and bobbos.
Speaker 1 (49:39):
So your goals for the next six months is to
get a few things off the ground start building a
career in America, correct, real. I love that so nice.
I feel like you're in a really good place for
that to happen, like as in, like all the stuff
that we've just talked about that's happened in the last
six months to set you up perfectly and you I'd
(50:01):
love to book another acting gig, a good or something
really solid. Probably, I think commercial is just a matter
of time because commercial, basically you're not necessarily booked on
your ability. You're more booked on the way you look
or sound, So commercial I'm not concerned about. That's one
hundred percent of money. A numbers game money too, but
a numbers game where is getting booked something like on
(50:25):
a TV show or a sitcom or any of that.
That's much more chemistry testing how you're showing up in
an audition, how you do with the callback. So I'd
love to book something really, really meaty, and also like
I want to focus on my next goal now for
the next month, or you'll be getting a theatric I've
got a great theatrical rep in Australia now, but I
(50:46):
want to get that in America because I think the
issue I've got right now is I'm not getting into
the rooms. I'm getting into the commercial rooms. I mean
into the voiceover rooms no props, and need to be
getting into those, like be able to be doing auditions
for TV shows that are casting right now, because one
thing that I've learned, until you've got the reps, no
one knows you even exist. Yeah, exactly, And so that
is like the next big phase for me is like
(51:08):
American theatrical. But like I just got an email right
before we went on this saying that my voiceover real
had been submitted for a big ad campaign in Australia.
Great you know what I mean. So that's what comes
from having good reps. So I think for me it's
reps and then booking the next acting gig and just
(51:28):
being super ready for that. But I'm also really excited
boss for this pod, Like this pod turns six in August,
Like I think this pod has got legs to grow
in America and you know, go to this next phase
we're doing. Like as my beautiful pod manager classes, she's like,
you're doing everything right, everything's lined up and completely ready
(51:49):
to go. So I think it's just like for me,
pod acting reps, what do you reckon? Do that sound good?
Speaker 2 (51:56):
Perfect?
Speaker 1 (51:56):
And of course love and well thank you for answering
those questions. It was like I'm not the mood for this, No,
I was in the mood. I was like what, like
he didn't you didn't give me like heads up, heads up?
Really what's going on? And I was like, what's what's
my story's going to be? Like it's not that interesting.
It was a format to today, yeah, but thought it
(52:17):
was like you're going to be like, oh, tell us
about the contilate and tell us about which you can't
really talk about really about general sense, but it's just
just know the overall thing is a big process that
takes time and it's tedious and paperwork and money. And yeah,
someone said to me the other day, LA is a
great place to be for the privileged if you've got
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an idea and your privilege. And I was like, even
the visas to get here coross a bomb, Like they like,
we could have put that towards a second property. Yeah,
well we a car, a beautiful car.
Speaker 2 (52:53):
Well we could have bought a fucking.
Speaker 1 (52:56):
Yeah, a couple probably if you put our two visas together.
Speaker 2 (53:00):
No, probably like one, but yeah, oh.
Speaker 1 (53:02):
Really either way. My point is is, like it is
an investment in and even to like have the money
to have the VA, like the stuff.
Speaker 2 (53:10):
Yeah, yeah it is. It's an investment into yourself. If
this is a place you want to be for work
and life and career and all that kind of stuff,
then it does take an investment. So you do have
to bet on yourself.
Speaker 1 (53:24):
I love that. Yeah, what a good ending. Bet on yourself. Yeah,
love you, boot, I'll bet on you any day the week.
Speaker 2 (53:30):
Bet on you, boss, love you, love you. Bub bah.
Wait that's a.
Speaker 1 (53:36):
Wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing. As always, Thank
you to our guests and let's continue the conversation on Instagram.
I'm at Yamo Lollaberry This potty my work for podcast
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the laugh
Get a. I'm Lalla Berry, nutritionist, author, actor, TV presenter,
and professional oversharer. This podcast is all about celebrating failure
because I believe it's a chance for us to learn,
grow and face our blind spots. Each week, I'll interview
a different guest about their highs as well as their lows,
(00:26):
all in a bid to inspire us to fearlessly fail. Hello,
Welcome to the Powder, Hello to the listener. Guess who's
on the Potter Rooney.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Your current boyfriend, Matt's my current friend.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
That for everybody. That is a TikTok trend that I
tried to do with you when you got back from Australia,
and I was I'm one of those people that laughs
way too early at the joke, so I can't even
land the joke.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Yeah, you can't get the punchline out.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
I can't get the punchlin out ever, So I made
a TikTok about Yeah, but there's this TikTok at the
moment where girls are going, oh, I'm making dinner with
my current boyfriend, and you watch these guys' faces.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
All drop and it's like their husbands and yeah, oh
this is.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
My current husband and they've got a little kid. It's
very funny. Okay, welcome back to the pod. Thank you, Booby,
thank you and listener. This is a welcome back episode
for the Boss.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
There's also a little reason for this episode specifically.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Yeah, well, I was like, oh, I don't need a
whole welcome back episode. There's a reason for it. Okay,
there's a reason for it.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
So I want I did this when I got back
from Australia because I got back how much before you, like.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Five weeks before me? What'd you do?
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Sorry?
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Okay, okay, cock, go get the bat trying to landed
joke that I can't even get get it out?
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Sorry, okay, Sorry for everyone that has had twenty seconds
of laughter for no reason. Okay, So the reason I
wanted to.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Say, Lola obviously had something funny to say, we're digress
and then and then just laughed at her own joke
in her head before she could get her out.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
And I can't. I can't now that I've done.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
It, and you're holding up a giant red paper post
the paper.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Because I want to do this with you, because it
is we're recording this in the middle of the year
and at the end of the year. I do that
male Robin seven questions then when you take a bit
of stock. So I want to take a bit of
stock with you halfway through the year. We've you spent
two and a half months in Australia.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Yeah, maybe almost three.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Three months in Australia. I spent a month in Australia
and came straight back because of the pilot, which has
been fun. So I think we do a check in
on like being back in LA but I also want
to do and invite you, the listener, to do a
stock take for the middle of the year. This was
all inspired by my friend Schanew or our friend Schanow,
who's an actress that lives out here and she's.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Just done a friend. I invited her to a gig
tomorrow and she's like, no, I hate you, I don't
want to go.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Okay, that joke is an even funny boss, because the
truth is she has an big audition tomorrow anyway, so
plans with their mum Yes, oh my god, boss. So
basically it's about doing a stock take. So all the
questions that I'm going to ask the boss, you can
write these down at home and ask yourself the same questions.
(03:51):
But first I want to do a little welcome back
to la How do you feel?
Speaker 2 (03:54):
I feel good?
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Highlight of Australia you can give me three?
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Very hard to be honest, I think obviously, Byron. Yeah,
we love it like favorite place on Earth, you know,
our home. Everything we love about home in Australia. Yeah,
it's our home. Love everything about Byron. Loved being there,
(04:26):
Love being there with you, my beloved, love seeing our friends.
There was that the highlight?
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Would you say that was just one of the highlights
that that.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Was one of the highlights of Australia you said three highlights?
So that that obviously, really just being with you is
a highlight. Always in hard work though, yeah, but in
holiday mode, being with you like we were, you know,
certain parts of it were holiday mode.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
We've just booked a little holiday in Palm Springs.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Yes we did. And then third unexpected highlight And obviously
this came about because of my changing plans, but I
ended up going back and staying with my parents for
a month.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
This is while you're waiting for you visus, correct.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Yes, So that ended up being a highlight as well
because I got to spend that time with my family
and I saw my nephews like so much, and I
got to hang out with them and my niece, sorry
nephews and niece and take them out and do fun
things and really connect with them. And that ended up
being a highlight too. And three that was three being
(05:42):
with you in general in holiday modes and like some
relaxing days, we went to the beach swam and then yeah,
three the unexpected extra time of the family.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
And I'm only bringing this up because you bought this
up in the shower last night, okay, which you'd had
a little bit of red wine while I was You
showed me. I hope your parents listen to this podcast
because you showed me a new addition to your arm.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Oh I'm going to say something so much ruder than that.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
No, so boss has got what have you got?
Speaker 2 (06:20):
I've got a little tattoo on my own and what
sort of it's a little.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Berry and what's my name?
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Berry?
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Lola Berry. And so this whole time since he got it,
he's like, no, no, it's not, it's not dedicated to you.
It's really it's just like what you represent me, which
is about facing fear. That's what he said. Legit, guys,
that's what he keeps telling me. Last night, three or
four venos deep, we're in the shower and he looks
me dead in the eyes. I got that tattooed for you,
(06:52):
for you, because you're my beloved. Do you know you
said that to me?
Speaker 2 (06:55):
I know I said it to you, but it to
be really honest with you.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Yes, he's not making eye contact with me right now,
just so.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
You don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Okay, now he is. Now he is.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
The tattoo is for you, and it represents you, but
it represents you as a person that got me out
of my I suppose comfort zone and into the bigger world. Okay,
that's it is you. But that's the reason why I
got it to remind myself of like to be fearless. Yeah,
(07:27):
where I came and I'm not going to go fucking
fearless written on my arm Like that's icky totally.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
So just we've got that on recording one more time.
The tatoo is a dedication to me. Well yes, and no, oh,
here we go, here's the dancing.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
If you're ever not my current girlfriend, then it's just
the cute little berry on my.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Arm that will always remind you of me.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Maybe maybe maybe not, maybe I dislike berries. Well, your
highlights come on.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Of the I've got mine written down off the trip. Yeah, okay,
so I've written one of the highlights. I wrote flying
Business Class with Boo, which we did on points. I've
written here feet in the Ocean with Boo, Nature Time
with Boo, and then I listed some of my favorite
things within Byron like woods, Doma, acupuncture, Mayo, se and
(08:16):
koalas Lighty what else farmers Market are really good things.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
I got gifted all that spell clothing. That was a
cool highlight. We saw Byron's sunsets. I did some hiking
at Sunrise which went really really really special when we
were staying, we were staying in Byron Town. So that
was my highlights. But okay, so these questions are I
want these to be a like of the year. Yeah,
(08:48):
so we've done you know, we've been here for the fires.
We've been here like so like in and I'm gonna
ask you these seven questions. So welcome back to La Woo.
We missed you. Okay, but we're six months through the year.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Which is weird, weird, and I also feel like it's
still the start of the year. It doesn't I.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Know it feels like March to me, don't you feel.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Yeah, that's exactly what it feels like.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Okay, so we're going to ask these more general and
to you, the listener. You can write these questions down
and ask these to yourself. So question one, of the
last six months, name three highlights? Oh, my lord, not
just the trip. The trip can be one. Yeah, me
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to go. I'll tell you why.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
It feels hard because the first three months of this
year I feel like last year.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
I know so because we went to Australia.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Because Australian and then that felt like we no like
the start of the year. You go first though, Okay.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Three highlights of the last six months for me would
be shooting the Pilot because that was my first paid
actor job. How cool. Another career one would be signing
I've signed with an amazing theatrical red beautiful Holly. Another,
I would say our Byron time was a real highlight,
and I loved recording the pods in Australia, but also
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like we recorded filmed pods in La last week. That
was fucking epic. Yeah, And then I would say you
and me stuff. I would probably say, like right, I
don't know if you remember this, but right before we
went to Lau and I had a little whiskey date
on the roof and watch the sunset went to Australia
(10:37):
before we went to Australia up on our roof here
when in la in February. Okay, like just little dates,
you and me, you know, a little little home, little
pockets and magic. But yeah, yeah with you and obviously
in Byron too. I loved that we splurged a bit
and got that Airbnb and Watergoes yeah, which I fought
(10:58):
for a bit.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Water Goes. It was not in water Goes.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Oh where was it?
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Where was it not in water Goes? Right in Byron.
It's really close to like Dolphins Beach, And no, what
is that Suffolk? Yeah, close to like Suffolk.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
There's a special beach name there, Whites.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
No, No, it's Dolphins Beach. We're very close to it.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
And we saw the sun set there and it was
like a rainforest where we stayed. Yeah, no, like it
was all green and lush and all that. Yeah, dolphins,
that's Dolphins Beach.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Okay, I love that.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
That's nice. Filtered water, filtered water.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
I totally booked that again.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Yeah, it was good.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Okay, Okay, what your highlights are you?
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Okay, well, yeah, definitely. Look, I'm actually going to be real.
When we were gearing up to go back to Australia,
I was not. I was kind of like, fuck, if
I didn't have to go back, I don't want to
go back. You did say that I wasn't like ready
to go back, but I had to, obviously because I
(12:12):
had to do some stuff in Australia, which we can
get too later. But it did become a highlight. King
of Byron and realizing that, like, I mean, I missed it,
but how much I missed it, and how much I
love being there, and you know, it's so easy, it's easier.
I miss our house like all those things. Another highlight
(12:34):
of the year. I've obviously like work and everything wise.
I've loved everything that I've been able to do a
lot of, like creative projects and this.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
And that, and you've been NonStop working.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Yeah, what would you like? Oh my Jesus Christ, I'm
just going to ignore that. No, that's not going anywhere.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Are you keeping it in the pod?
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (13:02):
People think that's rude.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Well, okay, did we go to did we do any
trips at the start of the year. I don't remember.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Yeah, I did TV, remember I did kat La and
then we went to Joshua Tree that day after the fires.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Yeah that was fab? Was that fab? I was really
unwell though, Remember I had like the end of like
a really bad cold because of Yeah, I think the
air and the fires and stuff like that. But we
still went to Papkin Harriet's.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
And was amazing. We're going back, yeah, mum, Yeah, can
we get some more of that?
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Yes, we will get a bottle of that whiskey. Okay,
So yeah, I don't know that I have like three
specific highlights. I think a big highlight for me is, yes,
just being able to when we have a moment together
to just sit, go on the roof and chill for
a minute. I agree because I think that our lives
(13:58):
are quite busy and we have shit on like every day,
every fucking week, and if you don't take the time
to just stop and do that, then your whole life
like passes you by. And even to be honest, like
being in Australia, I was like I was quite stressed
a lot of the time, and I was trying to
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work and I was doing all these other things, and
I was like, did it really change the outcome? Feeling
that stressed? You know, like I didn't need to be
that stressed. I didn't need to be that worried for
the same exact outcome.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
The whole thing is now worried often over that won't
ever happen, is the whole thing about.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
And it's like I wish that I worried a little
bit less and was a bit more present. I feel
like in some of the days, not like obviously the
whole time, but you know, sometimes I was like, no,
I was a bit not present because I was feeling stressed.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
So I think a lot of people can relate to
that though.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Yeah, so I think worry less, have the moments we
can just sit together, be present, enjoy I love that.
Watch your sunset, little can noodling, can noodling. Yeah, okay,
what's you low lights?
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Fires?
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (15:17):
But I stressful. Do we want to admit what you did?
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Got ship faced?
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Yeah? He went to our friend's house. This is not
a word of a lie. I'm working at the Yogre studio,
slaving my guts out. My days are like nine hour
days plus an hour is way driving and He's like,
I'm just going to head to Sam and Nard's house
for a little little fino. Okay, cool, no props. Yeah,
I'm such a chill girlfriend. No probs, don't worry. I'll
(15:45):
totally be home by the time you're back from work. Cool,
no probs, get back from work now. Meanwhile, I've started
to get sick from the air quality, and so I'm
finding it really hard to breathe. I've got humidifiers going
at this stage, air filters, and I'm working myself up.
I'm stressing myself. You are and I'm like, get home,
and I'm like, don't worry. I knew how to acting school.
(16:06):
I was just learning my lines of acting school. I
had a super eaty guy. Was just trying to like
do all the hell things feel really like good, knew
I had to go to work.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
You're really calling me out here.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
This is not a word of a lie. I also
am scared of vomit. Yeah, we just pop that in there.
Old mate gets home at two am, after I've checked
in like three or four times. You okay, I'll just
have one more glass.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
I was communicative the whole time.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
I was your timeline's just got warped.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Yeah, but it's not like I was not answering or
writing back. He was exactly what I wear. I was
what I was doing, who I.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Was with with legends.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
You're with legends, absolutely yeah, like our good friends. Like
not a single moment of like m I A.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
No, there was absolutely nothing shady.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
In his behavior. I thank you. I just want that
on record. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
It just you know, when you have a drink and
it just the time.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Mike, it goes right go, You're going to say that
and then I'm going to defend myself.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Okay. So he gets home and lord knows why, makes
himself a fizzy magnesium for nighttime. So he's got all
that delish fino churning around in his stomach because at
a really early dinner he eats like a sparrow anyway
you do it, not loads sometimes, then has fizzy magian,
(17:27):
then gets into bed and then not twenty seconds later,
is hurling his guts up in the bathroom and I'm like,
fucking hell, here we go. So I hate vomit. I'm like,
all right, be a good girlfriend. I go fill up
a glass of water for him. This is after it
hasn't stopped for twenty minutes, by the way, it's not
(17:48):
like a one and done situation. And I'm like, fucking hell.
Then all of a sudden, he goes quiet right, goes
quite in the bathroom, and he has a tendency to
lock himself in the bathroom. Heaven bit. I don't know
why anyway, because I like to walk in office. So
finally I was like, okay, it sounds like he's not
in a spewing fiasco right now. I knock on the door.
(18:08):
Boo boo, nothing booboo. This is like in the middle
of the night. I opened the door, not a word
of a lie. He's sprawled out, He's got his boxer
shorts on, ball hanging out, one leg, asleep against the
wall next to the toilet bowl. And I go this.
(18:33):
He's like, oh, hello, wakes up, booboo. Go what happened?
Do we have one too many venos? He looks at
me dead in the face and says, oh, no motion
sickness from the tesla on the way home? Are you kidding?
I wanted to throw that water at you. Didn't just
(18:53):
gave you the water.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
I was like, come on, go on, there you go,
all right, you've completely under the bus. No.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
This is like I would tell anyone, this isn't okay.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
This is first of all, let's just put this out there.
This is not normal behavior and has happened twice to me.
This is true.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
I will admit I have taken my drinking too far
at times.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
You've you've we're equal, we are equal. In the last
eight years, we have both had two occasions each, right,
which is not bad, but two occasions each in the
last eight years that we've both had a little too
much to drink.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
And of those two fifty percent were in natural or
in disasters. Mine was during COVID, yeah, and yours was
during the fires, and so naturally, let's be real pressure reliever.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Yeah, exactly. So the fires, I'd been inside. I hadn't
been out for god knows how long. I haven't left
the apartment, I haven't whatever. And then our friends like
they were like, yeah, just come over like wine, and
I'm like great, Like I'm not doing anything.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
No, And I think, look to be real when you're
in a disaster, like to feel connected to other people
and to kind of like I think, the Australian way.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
So the thing is, yes, we did have a few
wines and then did you say the wild turkey got
came out well, and then two more bottles of wine
got delivered, so then we were basically had a bottle each.
And then after that the buffalo trace came out.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Of a blow. So that is that's Kentucky bourbon, right.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Yeah, it's what they have on your lifstone, you know. Yeah. Yeah,
there's like a bar scene there, like I'll have a
buffalo trace. I've never had one anyway, So I had
a few whiskeys, and I was not in that exact
moment when I left the house, I was like just good,
you know, like I wasn't like drunk and stumbling. I
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was just like I knew I'd had a few drinks,
but I was like very looseid, I was very normal, right,
Like at no, at no point was I like a
messy or anything like that. So I called myself an
uber A get in the uber talking to the guy la.
You know, they're a little bit rough and they're driving,
and I did start feeling a little bit nauseous in
(21:11):
the car, and I was like, oh, my stomach does
feel a little bit churning. But I'm very aware and
I'm like, okay, I'll be home in five minutes. It's fine.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Just you know, at what point did you think magnesium
was a good idea?
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Yeah? Well then I thought, well, I've been drinking a bit,
a bit dehydrated. I better have some magnesium, so I
have the fizzy drink. And yes, immediately that set you off. Well,
I got into bed and as soon as I laid
down on my back, then my entire world started spinning
and I was like, Noah, I'm done. I have to
(21:43):
get up and get this out. No. Yeah, yeah, I
think the worst part about all that is I woke
up the next day Rider's range.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
I know, and that yeah you did, and he was
happy as larry, and I was like, I could throttle you.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Right now, being like I was fine, okay, so yeah, okay,
anyway you've.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Just like no, but let's talk about let's talk about.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
I don't have any low lights. That's actually what this
story has come from. Really, that's not a low light
for me. I was like, okay, that was a fuck up.
And in my thirty nine years, right, I've I've vomited
three times from alcohol. Actually no, that's a lie. Four
times from alcohol, and I can tell you all four
times in my entire life. I've never been like an
(22:32):
over drinker.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
No, no, no, we're both well. I definitely even less.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
I was like once when I was sixteen, once like
when I was like, was it like uzo? When you
were sixteen was like DLS? And then once at like
twenty three, twenty four maybe or twenty five, and then
you're like thirty two and then thirty eight.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Do you know you love this? You know? My good
friend Tim, Yeah, in Melbourne, we used to both both
buy a bottle of blush. It's like Shampogne champagne, and
one day I threw up. Anyway, Okay, can I say
my low lights the last six months? So for me
when with traveling, one thing I learned we traveled around
(23:14):
a lot. We were staying with a lot of different people.
I don't like the feeling of feeling out of control
with food. I think that's like a lag from having
an eating disorder in my twenties. So I noticed that
cropped up a little bit when we were traveling around
all the time. I would say like twenty to thirty percent.
I'd be like, oh, I'm struggling right now, and I'd
(23:36):
say it to you. I'd be like I'm I'm I
don't feel or I would feel like in an environment
where I didn't have control of my choices and that
would upset me. But I'm doing a lot of work
with my therapists now around that actually, but that for
me was hard and I did actually and I only
know this I would have totally forgotten only not because
I've written it down. I binged in Melbourne. Do you
(23:57):
remember that?
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Not?
Speaker 1 (23:59):
I think I Well, it says binged in Melbourne.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Was I there? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Yeah, I think I would go to the chocolate dile
like Woolies or whatever, or coals and get all those
keen yeah, but then we get marvelous creation.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Yeah, there was a few occasions.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Yeah, but then I would also get treats and it
was just kind of like old behavior from when I
had eating problems. Yeah, so that was definitely a down.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
I understand that, like even me staying and I was
with friends on my own and as welcoming and as
incredible and can do whatever you want when you stay
there in their house, it's not your own space, it's
not your own house. So like an element of you
always does feel a little bit not full in control. Yeah,
(24:50):
and totally like with my parents, no, because obviously I
grew up in that house.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Yeah, even when I'm back at Dad's as opposed to mums,
I feel it's easier for me. Obviously. That is like
a chill bean too. You feel all right Dad's place,
don't you, Yes, dads yeah, whereas mum love you mum,
but a little bit more controlling and so we don't
have as much control over our time, you know, which
is like to be fair, probably where a bit of
(25:15):
my control stuff has come from as well. But I
would say like that the fires were hard for me
because I worked closer to the specific palisades, Like that
was a really hard I struggled a bit mentally, I
would say that week. Yeah, any other low lights probably
for me, just with the acting stuff, like sitting in
(25:35):
the like obviously you're sitting in a lot of rejection
energy and it's so fine when you know, no, no,
it's just a numbers game. You're going to get it,
yes eventually. But on some days your brain tricks you
and doubt will win, and so I think those days
are hard, and I've also found it and there's no
(25:57):
secret here I talk about on the pod direct I
find it very hard to balance sometimes working at the
Yolk Studio with like being able to audition and take
a callback and you know, have really good opportunities. You've
got to be able to kind of like be very
malleable and fluid with your time when I've got to
set structure and schedule to stick to as well, And
(26:18):
sometimes I feel like I miss out on opportunities. That's
my phone. I don't know why it's going off so much,
so that would I would say like that's something that
I'm still working on. But I've made a deal that
I'm doing therapy every two weeks now because I think
that'll help me build massively clearer boundaries and structure around
(26:38):
what's important to me.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Yeah. I had a bit of self doubt creep in
this past week too, to be honest. Really, Yeah, what
from well, like see the show that I'm working on. Yeah,
there's two other composers on the show. Yeah, and they're
doing different things that I'm doing, So yeah, like doing
I'm doing like the underscore and they're doing someone like
(27:01):
the moral orchestral and other bits. And even I was like,
oh am I good enough? Am I really as good
as they are? And I'm like I because obviously we're
very different. So I very much try to never compare
myself to other people because I don't do what they
do and they don't do what I do. Yeah, but
(27:23):
then I was like, oh am I actually good enough
to be working with them and doing it?
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Is it because people that write more orchestral music are
often more classically drained?
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Yeah, they are, which I'm not, Which does.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
That sometimes make you feel.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Yeah, a little bit, But I do just try to
go back to the fact that I'm like, what I
do is very individual to me.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
And I imagine it's extremely intuitive, and so you need
the doubt to be fucking out the door in order
to do the best work you need to do, right.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Yeah. Yeah, So like obviously I played my strengths and
not compare, but I probably did do a bit of
that this week.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
You also, when you're in Australia, did a lot of therapy,
didn't you?
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Yea once a week, did every single week?
Speaker 1 (28:09):
How what was like if you could say, like from
like day one to like I think you've got four
or five sessions into like that fifth session, like did
you feel like a sense of clarity or ease or.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Absolutely yeah, because I started feeling like my anxiety returning
in Melbourne, and I realized that a lot of that
came from Obviously, we haven't lived in Melbourne for I
don't even know now.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
We've never lived together in Melbourne. Do you know that
we've lived in talking together? Okay, yeah, but we've never
we started dating in Melbourn we never lived together.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
But so, but we haven't even lived in Melbourne for
the better part of five years. So I feel like
some of the old anxiety triggers and memories and things
came back while I was there. Like, obviously we've being
back to Melbourne heaps, but I was never never been
long enough to I suppose reflect and yeah, spending a
(29:08):
whole month, I was like, oh, maybe I am Actually
there was feeling more anxious and there was a few
little spots in my anxiety that I probably hadn't dealt
with and faced.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Oh how good is that?
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Though? Yeah? So then like now definitely, like, yeah, next
time we go back, I'm like, I've definitely processed all
that stuff. How good? Yeah? But yeah, so that's probably
like the biggest difference.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
I'm proud of you.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Yeah, And I think it's like very location based, you know,
like you can't just run away from your problems, like
your problems follow you. But being here, you're not reminded
of previous anxiety because you're not in that space. And
when I was back in those spaces, yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
It was like it was really easily reactivated.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Yeah exactly. I was like I remember being here like
as a young adult and having anxiety here anyway, So curl.
But the cool thing is is, yeah, it works, work
through a lot of cuts.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Well, my next question is lessons. What lessons would you
say you've learned in the last six months.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Hmm.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
You go first for me, and this is obviously still
a biggie, but boundaries. I'm getting better and better at
and being really comfortable in going either no, thank you
or I'm going to need some time to think about that,
which sounds so easy. But when you're in the moment
and somebody has got another outcome that they want to happen,
(30:40):
and they need you to say yes, and it's not
necessarily like them manipulating you or anything, it's just easier
for them if you say yes in the moment, it's
really hard to have the clarity to go, oh, no,
thank you, that doesn't serve me. Oh, thank you so much.
I'm going to need to think about that.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Though.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
It's like saying it on a pod like this is
one thing, but like being under the pressure of like
being a bit tired, being in a different environment, someone
being like, it's going to really help me if you
do this thing. Yeah, Like it's so hard to have
the courage to do that in real person. So I
feel like in real time, I feel like my boundaries
(31:20):
has been like a huge thing that I've been working
on in the last six months, and I think that's
something I'm going to work on more and more. Like
my mum is amazing but wanted me to go to
New York with her, and we just crunched the numbers
and I was like, I can't do New York and
Memphis and Nashville and Joshua Tree, like we need to
make some calls as to what we do together. And
(31:42):
you know, her initial response was, oh, but you promised,
do you remember that?
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Yeah, which you didn't.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
No, no, but and old me would have been, oh, fuck, okay,
I'll just find a way to make it happen. Whereas
like we actually sat in the discomfort and had a
converse and then we're like, no, let's do like Memphis.
I've never been. Let's do an elvistrip. Mum's mad Elvis fad.
And I think for me, the boundary thing has been
(32:11):
a big one. And I don't know if you remember,
but a lot of friends wanted to catch up with us,
and I said no, quite a lot, just because I
was like, there is no time for that. And I
think that like the older we get, like we're both
thirty nine, and the more you realize that time is
really our only currency and you've got to be careful
about like how you spend it and where you spend it,
(32:33):
and like I know, for me, one of the highlights
of Australia was going to an MCG match with Dad.
But that meant saying no to a couple of mates. Yeah,
that's right, and that meant I was less available to
other people as a result. But like Dad's dad and
I email once a week. We're pimpals. And because he
just doesn't like FaceTime and WhatsApp and all those things.
(32:53):
And the first thing he wrote to me when I
got to LA was I loved going to the MCG.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
With you, Like it was really importantly shared his passion.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
He loves that ye allbit a terrible match and they
were thrash and like it's the only time you'll ever
see my dad curse. But yeah, I think I think
also like knowing, like knowing that I was feeling a
little bit out of control like food and our space wise,
(33:22):
and then pulling that trigger at the end of the
trip to like have that Airbnb and Byron and make
our own meals. Yeah, I know that that had a
huge impact on my mental health. And so I think
like staying in charge of my own time is really
really and investing in ourselves. Like we are seeing Mum
and Joshua Tree in a few weeks. You and I
(33:43):
just pulled a trigger and to do a night extra
in Palm Springs, just you and me at a wellness
retreat resort like those kind of things. Then I've booked
myself some a of eighting massage.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
You've got to have those, even if it's just like
one extra night, Like you've got to have that.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Which is a beautiful boundary piece in a way.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
But also for couples and people like you don't even
have to go and spend money, no, you know, you
can find something just to take you out of your
normal routine and space and do it, and I think
that's important.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
I definitely think like my boundaries have gotten even gotten
that's bad English. My boundaries have gotten stronger, and I
always had fantastic I think that even now, I'm just
very comfortable and like no, thank you.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Yeah, so you're better. I'm like, he's so you are
so confident though, whereas like, as someone that has had
an indish or I think confidence is my first thing
to sway.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
I think though that I think about it as and
as someone that's had extremely bad anxiety, extreme like you've
seen me have the worst anxiety. I refuse to ever
put myself in a position that would make me like
feel like that or triggered or whatever it is. So
(35:00):
if if there is something that I'm like that is
absolutely not for me, I'm like no, And like you know,
even if Pepe's like, oh, come on, let's do this,
I'm like, no, yeah, you're really good. And to be honest,
if they feel very funny, what does that mean? It
means I don't like it, antonia. If they feel uncomfortable
(35:20):
by you saying no, that's their fucking shit. Yeah, like
you're good friends would never make you feel like shit,
or your family or whatever for you saying no.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
No, there's a really good thing going around as well
about like your good friends celebrate you wins. You're not
your friends like get a bit jealous of you wins. Yeah,
and I think like late thirties you figure that shit
out real quick.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Yeah, but as well, like even yeah, I mean all
my friends have never been like pressure friends. But if
anyone's been like, oh, hey, I'm not drinking tonight, or
and it's like no one cares, you know, there's no like, oh,
come on, just do this, it's like, which, no one
fucking cares. Do whatever you want, live your own life.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Yeah. Anyway, you're very supportive of that with me too,
by the way. You teach me that even we've got
a gig tomorrow night and I couldn't go unless I
got in a bit of trouble at what, like it
would have been hard for me to get the time
off work, And you're like, okay, well then let's sort
it out so that there's someone else exactly.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
That's fine. Yeah, I'm not bothered.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
No, you are amazing like that. Okay, So the next question.
So the first question is highlight, second question low lights,
third question of lessons, which we've just talked about. Fourth question,
What am I going to stop doing for the second
half of the year that you've done the first half
of the year you don't want to? You know what
I mean? What are you going to stop doing?
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Oh? I stop doing. I'm going to stop feeling like
I need to wait for things to come to me
and go after more Ooh nice, Yeah, create more, create
(36:58):
more opportunity.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Nice, Because I realized that I've always anything that has
been successful or you know, beneficial financially career. It's like
an opportunity that I've created in a certain way.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Yeah, I love that. I wrote What am I going
to stop doing? Shit I don't want to do?
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Yeah? I love that.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
And I've said I'm going to stop saying yes when
I really want to say no, and I'm going to
start investing in myself and my own space.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Yep. Maybe adding the overthinking.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Yeah, I'm an overthinker. I'm a realer. It's actually been
really interesting booking stuff with mum because Mum's also an overthinker,
and I had to stop her the other day. We'll
planning our Graceland tour, which I've organized for a birthday,
and she was like, what should we do? Go what time?
And like she was like we should we go at
ten or should we go at eleven? I don't know, girl,
(37:56):
what do you think? And I go, hey, you do
this thing that I I do. I'm like, you go
back and forth on an idea about fifteen times too many.
I do the exact same thing and I'm telling you
now stop. And it was so nice because it wasn't
me like being bossy boots with her. It was me
(38:17):
being like, I do the same thing. I get it,
I get it. Let's just lock something in.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
And how much time is lost on indecision? It has
to And it's like, what's the fucking difference ten or eleven?
Like in the grand scheme life, you could have done
both and it's not going to affect you in the future.
So it's like, why spend all that fucking time worrying
about like such a small fucking detail. And that's what
I say to you as well. I'm like I do
(38:41):
it all the time, and I'm like, who cares?
Speaker 1 (38:43):
But I also thought, like even we were booking Palm Springs,
before and I'm booking that aubatic massage and I was like,
I did to book it for two or three? And
then in my brain I play out, oh, no, we're
going to get there at two. Oh we're gonna want
a little sauna in a little all hang together, and
you're like yeah, great, yeah great, Whereas I'm like, or
(39:04):
do I want to have this message first? I play
it all out in my head.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
And realistically, what's the fucking difference?
Speaker 1 (39:11):
Doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
You're gonna get there, you're gonna have a great massage,
you're gonna be in the room. We're gonna have a
great fucking time. I thought you're gonna say something a
bit ruder, We're gonna fuck So people do that, boss,
that's how babies made.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
You could say like make sweet love, make whoopee, not
not woopy.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
I think I think that the decision paralysis that people have,
and I think that I used to have it too,
to be honest, Like I remember trying to organize things.
I'm like, okay this or that, or I still get
a lot of what time should I fly? To be honest,
I had a lot of decision paralysis flying from Byron
(39:57):
to Melbourne.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
And and Melbourne to La and I was like, please
book it on this day and You're like, but there's
less chance beginning upgrade because it looks like this less
and I'm like, you're going to get the upgrade exactly nothing, right.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
But we had one call about it, right.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
You were absolute yeah, because I was starting to feel
anxious about it.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
You like that out on you. Of course that's your
job though, But the decision was made within the hour
right of being presented with the three options. Yeah, we
just in that discomfort. Yeah, but at the end of
the day, the decision was made. The best suit the
time that you can pick me up. So yeah, that's
(40:44):
how the decision was made. And make you a little
poster rooney. So but the thing is like, although I
was indecisive about Friday, Saturday or Sunday, once I incorporated
you into that decision making, you were like, well this
bests me. And I was like, okay, there's the best
chance for an upgrade on this day, but there's still
(41:06):
a chance on this day, but that suits you better.
So I was like, that's the day that we do it.
And did you get the upgrade? Yes? I did on
my points huh. On my points, my points, I'll my points.
We'll see anyway. So yeah, but yeah I had it
as well going from Byron to Melbourne because I couldn't
(41:27):
like it was really you get a crazy delay. Yeah
they don't have a big delay, but anyway, it doesn't matter.
But yeah, I get it anyway, keep the next question because.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
Question five, okay, question five, what are you going to
start doing?
Speaker 2 (41:41):
Hmm?
Speaker 1 (41:42):
Drop me to kick it off, because I think gives
you juices and I've obviously filled this out and taken
the time prioritize happiness and freedom, movement, health goals like
you united did it, waits at the gym and then
the other thing since obviously, as you know, I have
a massive crash on Marcus Mumford. Yeah you know, yeah,
(42:03):
because when I watch my mumfd and son's tiktoks at night,
You're like, are you watching your boyfriend?
Speaker 2 (42:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (42:09):
Absolutely, But this has learnt from him. When he wrote
an album, he said, I'm going to set myself the
task to write as honestly as I can and to
essentially just be relentlessly honest, and that is something I
want to live from that space, to be relentlessly honest.
I think you and I live that way.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
Yeah, yeah, we do.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
But to really like sit in that outside of just
you and I is something I want to.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
Aspire to love that. Yeah, what's the question again, what
are you going to start doing? Ah? I think that
I still need to continue to believe in myself more.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
Well, the next question is what are you going to
continue to do? Well?
Speaker 2 (42:51):
I think, yeah, continue to believe myself more. What am
I going to start to do? I don't know. That's
a hard one. I feel like I feel like I'm
in a good flow of taking care of myself. Yeah, yeah,
maybe do you know what?
Speaker 1 (43:11):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (43:12):
No, more, I think I probably need to get back
to gym a little bit more.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
That's what you're going to continue to do? I would say?
I would say jim yoga movement.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
Because I was doing all that in Australia and then
this last week I've done.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
Nothing besides warehouse. We've been house sitting as well.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
Yeah, I don't know what I'm going to start to do.
I'm going to leave that question because there's nothing that's
really jumping out.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
And then continue to do is the movement stuff?
Speaker 2 (43:37):
Yeah? Like therapy, Yeah, therapy, the movement stuff and like
believe in myself more.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
Do you want to know it was on my list
to contribute it? You're going to laugh, Be in nature,
continue being in acting school, continue therapy, make time to
hang with dad. Laser that's anti aging, skin laser, podcasting,
botox that's also anti aging. See sunrises and sunsets. And
(44:11):
one thing I really want to continue doing whenever we
travel to Australia is starting to end in Myron Bay.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
Which we are next trip. Yeah, well we're starting ding.
We haven't decided to.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
So the final question of this is what can you
start today to start making the changes you want to change.
So we've done one of them. We've done weight training
today at the gym. We've gone out for an air
one Healthy Eats.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
Talk about the smooth that you had Cowboy Colostrum.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
Yeah, well we're members so we get a free smoothie
once a month. It's so good. And this was like
a cold brew coffee with colostrum maple syrup. It was
like assalted maple. What do you say? It tasted like
tear me, Sue, It tastes like can you I've also
been going down the tiktop rabbit hole of Dove Cameron
(45:07):
her Italian boyfriend Dominico. What's his name?
Speaker 2 (45:10):
I don't know. I've seen the videos.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
Can you teach? So there's a few things where he teaches,
like a couple of cool Australia Italian sayings. Did you
know about the sleepiness one when your body feels like
it's overcome sleeper or something?
Speaker 2 (45:26):
Non?
Speaker 1 (45:28):
Do you know the saying that people yell out of
Italian football? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (45:33):
That's that's like it's pretty insulting you say in Italian. No,
I don't remember what it is in Italian, but it's
basically like f you and your dead relative. Yeah, it's
like pretty insulting what Eddie says, don't mess with Italians?
Speaker 1 (45:46):
Yeah, so I guess like, do you have anything like
like you just taught us Nemi piacci.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
That just means I don't like it?
Speaker 1 (45:56):
How do you say it.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
Nice?
Speaker 1 (46:00):
Can you teach us just like tim more littlies?
Speaker 2 (46:02):
Please?
Speaker 1 (46:02):
I don't know, you don't like?
Speaker 2 (46:03):
Well, I feel like you should have prepared me for
this because like.
Speaker 1 (46:06):
What about isn't there like the one beautiful this beautiful life?
Speaker 2 (46:12):
Yeah, that's that's like pretty common.
Speaker 1 (46:15):
What's what's like like like there's gonna be like a
nice saying like I love you very much, your beautiful thing.
Oh my god, he's rolling his eyes come on.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
Like Italians like, I don't know. They say a lot
of things like like even the guy, and then in
the interviews like you know, Stigazzi like, which means like the.
Speaker 1 (46:42):
Dicks, but it also means it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
Yeah, you know, and it's it's like a lot of
things like that. You know, but people say, like, you know,
in English, you say, oh my god, it's like Madonna. Yeah,
you know, so they have they have those kind of
being home, did you speak a little bit more Italian? Yeah,
a little bit, not heaps.
Speaker 1 (47:02):
So your parents are fluent, Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
No, it's not as fluent anymore, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
I'm gonna keep telling we better take me to Italy
one day.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
Yes, we'll go to Italy one day.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
So the stuff that you're going to start doing today
is movement, keeping up with a therapy, working on yourself.
Is anything you want to achieve in the next six months, Yes,
that you're comfortable sharing here.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
No, I really want to get off the ground. Yeah,
some extra stuff in America and creative projects that you
and I are working on. And just I know that, like,
(47:53):
this is not your style, but my style is like,
let's create a lot and then see what works.
Speaker 1 (48:00):
Of Yeah, whereas I'll hyper focus on that.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
Yeah, you hyper focus on one thing, where I'm like,
let's just make fifty things and if let's hope that
one of them like pops off.
Speaker 1 (48:11):
But I think that what works with that is like
he'll then send me his fifty ideas and then I'll
really like.
Speaker 2 (48:17):
I realized that I'm very macro and you're very micro.
Speaker 1 (48:20):
Is that what it is?
Speaker 2 (48:21):
Yeah, So I'm very like big picture overall goal.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
So you're more of a director's brain. I'm more of
a producer's brain. Remember on the podcast and a way we're
talking about their differences being one was more like actor director, yeah,
and the other one was more producer writer.
Speaker 2 (48:39):
Yeah. It's kind of like say, say, if we're writing something, yeah,
I'll like come up with a big idea. I'll like
have like the big idea or the big idea of
a character. Yeah, and then you break down every single
little character development trait, fucking what colors their fun toenails,
(49:02):
you know, where I couldn't give a shit about that,
but you develop something from an overall picture, like, so
I probably do outline and then you color it in
with complexity.
Speaker 1 (49:17):
I would agree with that it's dricking. That's because of
writing books, and so I've had to do have the
ideas because I used to pitch many ideas to publishers
and they'd be like, go away and do that one,
and then I just deep dive and essentially like get
really specific.
Speaker 2 (49:31):
Yeah, So I love doing the overall thing and then
handing it to you to do the bits and bobbos.
Speaker 1 (49:39):
So your goals for the next six months is to
get a few things off the ground start building a
career in America, correct, real. I love that so nice.
I feel like you're in a really good place for
that to happen, like as in, like all the stuff
that we've just talked about that's happened in the last
six months to set you up perfectly and you I'd
(50:01):
love to book another acting gig, a good or something
really solid. Probably, I think commercial is just a matter
of time because commercial, basically you're not necessarily booked on
your ability. You're more booked on the way you look
or sound, So commercial I'm not concerned about. That's one
hundred percent of money. A numbers game money too, but
a numbers game where is getting booked something like on
(50:25):
a TV show or a sitcom or any of that.
That's much more chemistry testing how you're showing up in
an audition, how you do with the callback. So I'd
love to book something really, really meaty, and also like
I want to focus on my next goal now for
the next month, or you'll be getting a theatric I've
got a great theatrical rep in Australia now, but I
(50:46):
want to get that in America because I think the
issue I've got right now is I'm not getting into
the rooms. I'm getting into the commercial rooms. I mean
into the voiceover rooms no props, and need to be
getting into those, like be able to be doing auditions
for TV shows that are casting right now, because one
thing that I've learned, until you've got the reps, no
one knows you even exist. Yeah, exactly, And so that
is like the next big phase for me is like
(51:08):
American theatrical. But like I just got an email right
before we went on this saying that my voiceover real
had been submitted for a big ad campaign in Australia.
Great you know what I mean. So that's what comes
from having good reps. So I think for me it's
reps and then booking the next acting gig and just
(51:28):
being super ready for that. But I'm also really excited
boss for this pod, Like this pod turns six in August,
Like I think this pod has got legs to grow
in America and you know, go to this next phase
we're doing. Like as my beautiful pod manager classes, she's like,
you're doing everything right, everything's lined up and completely ready
(51:49):
to go. So I think it's just like for me,
pod acting reps, what do you reckon? Do that sound good?
Speaker 2 (51:56):
Perfect?
Speaker 1 (51:56):
And of course love and well thank you for answering
those questions. It was like I'm not the mood for this, No,
I was in the mood. I was like what, like
he didn't you didn't give me like heads up, heads up?
Really what's going on? And I was like, what's what's
my story's going to be? Like it's not that interesting.
It was a format to today, yeah, but thought it
(52:17):
was like you're going to be like, oh, tell us
about the contilate and tell us about which you can't
really talk about really about general sense, but it's just
just know the overall thing is a big process that
takes time and it's tedious and paperwork and money. And yeah,
someone said to me the other day, LA is a
great place to be for the privileged if you've got
(52:39):
an idea and your privilege. And I was like, even
the visas to get here coross a bomb, Like they like,
we could have put that towards a second property. Yeah,
well we a car, a beautiful car.
Speaker 2 (52:53):
Well we could have bought a fucking.
Speaker 1 (52:56):
Yeah, a couple probably if you put our two visas together.
Speaker 2 (53:00):
No, probably like one, but yeah, oh.
Speaker 1 (53:02):
Really either way. My point is is, like it is
an investment in and even to like have the money
to have the VA, like the stuff.
Speaker 2 (53:10):
Yeah, yeah it is. It's an investment into yourself. If
this is a place you want to be for work
and life and career and all that kind of stuff,
then it does take an investment. So you do have
to bet on yourself.
Speaker 1 (53:24):
I love that. Yeah, what a good ending. Bet on yourself. Yeah,
love you, boot, I'll bet on you any day the week.
Speaker 2 (53:30):
Bet on you, boss, love you, love you. Bub bah.
Wait that's a.
Speaker 1 (53:36):
Wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing. As always, Thank
you to our guests and let's continue the conversation on Instagram.
I'm at Yamo Lollaberry This potty my work for podcast
is available on all streaming platforms. I'd love it if
you could subscribe, rate and comment and of course spread
(54:00):
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