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April 17, 2025 53 mins

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In today's episode, I talk with my friend Jillian Johnsrud about something super important—taking breaks from work, also called mini retirements. We talk about how hard it is to feel tired all the time and why we think we always have to be working. Jillian shares how taking time off helped her feel better, enjoy life more, and even do better with money. I also open up about how I realized I was doing too much and needed to slow down.

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After starting with 55k in debt, Jillian became financially independent at 32. She and her husband have taken a dozen mini-retirements, adopted four kids, have two biological, lived abroad, traveled to 27 countries, and paid cash for their first home. They live in Montana by Glacier National Park, where they hike on the weekends. She's a writer, coach, speaker, podcaster, and drinker of hot tea.

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