Fire Rescue Wellness

Fire Rescue Wellness

Welcome to the Fire Rescue Wellness Podcast! My name is Annette Zapp (or AZ), and I'm a Retired Career Firefighter and Ph.D. Student on a mission to ensure that every firefighter feels physically, mentally, and emotionally supported in their work. Join my guests and me as we have the critical conversations that help firefighters stay healthy and well.

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November 4, 2025 5 mins

The consequences of sleep deprivation in public safety and the military are indisputable. Hear what Dr. Allison Brager, Army Major and Sleep Neuroscientist, has to say in this week's Spotlight. Tune in to the full original episode here.

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It only took three years, but I finally got Manny Romero on the podcast (and now we already have a part 2 booked!)

Manny Romero is the Health and Fitness Coordinator at the Seattle Fire Department, a role he has held since 2022. He brings a diverse background in tactical and performance training, having worked with the U.S. Army’s Holistic Health and Fitness (H2F) program, Navy Fitness, and Point Loma Sports Performance. Manny holds...

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Ask a better question, get a better answer-at least when you're querying an expert. Unless you're a guru, answers are nuanced, and context matters! Hear the original episode here.

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In today's episode, you'll hear about training for Wildland Firefighters from Austin Womack, owner of Rugged Athlete. 

Austin Womack is a strength and conditioning coach, wildland firefighter, Army Infantry Officer, and owner of Rugged Athlete LLC. His company's mission is to lead from the front in facilitating a new era of human performance in wildland firefighting. Austin accomplishes this by blending his hands-on e...

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Life runs at hyper speed, and sometimes simply setting yourself up for success in the future helps more than you could ever anticipate! I use the concept of taking care of future me a lot as it applies to health and wellness, but in today's Spotlight you'll hear some anecdotes about how this concept applied to me in the wild. Check out the original episode here.

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Kelly Kennedy is back, and today we're talking about academy injuries and heat-related illnesses. As always, there were side tangents, and today included one on the nasty taste of essential amino acids (BLECH!) and the Society for Sport Neuroscience Conference.

Kelly has been the exercise physiologist for a large police agency in the southeastern US for over 25 years. She's a fellow nutrition nerd (Yay ISSN!!) and conferen...

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I fought starting a podcast for five years. But once I did, I was so happy I took the plunge. Now we're three years in and Episode 200 is looming. Hear a little bit from my very first episode with Vince Zittnan from Fire and Iron Media, my production company. Check out the original episode here.

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Two things can be true at once. Maura Shea is one of the best speakers and podcast guests I've ever had, and Maura Shea absolutely hates being on podcasts. In fact, she's now been on a grand total of three, and they've all been with me!

I'm so appreciative of her time, insight, and expertise, and you're going to love hearing about her transition from being an Athletic Trainer for firefighters to being a fire...

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Almost two years ago, James Geering originally appeared on my podcast (catch the entire episode here), and since then, several departments across the country have adopted a shorter work week. We need to keep pushing toward creating healthier work environments for firefighters because change is possible!

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Exercise snacks are not food, but rather brief bouts of moderate to intense exercise that do not require equipment. The coolest part is that they can improve cardiometabolic and mental health, and even potentially performance in firefighters.

So what, now what?!?

Anchor these snacks to events that are already happening in your day!

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Innovation is found outside of silos and sometimes you learn the most in places you might not belong. AZ recaps echo chambers in this week's FRW Spotlight. 

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Check out Part II of how I think about programming for an academy.

So what, now what?

Rules I live by:

1-Arbitrary is not the way.

2-We don't train for fictional demands.

3-Do no harm!

4-A rising tide lifts all ships. Be a tide.

5-Wash, Rinse, Repeat

Hit this link to request a consult to figure out your training academy challenges!

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Alyson Evans talks about fringe medicine in this week's FRW Spotlight. Hear what she says about CBD and efficacy in the fire service.

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I get it. Firefighters see black and white, and shades of grey don't exist. Therefore, it's easier for them to believe in absolutes vs nuance. Today's FRW Spotlight outlines why that might not be a great idea.

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NFPA 1582 has been updated and renamed as 1580. Come along on my conversation with Dr. Jacob Mota and Mike Conner as they discuss the changes.

Hear Jake's first FRW appearance here

Hear Mike's first FRW appearance here

So what, now what?!?

The NFPA changes may have wide-reaching effects, some unintended. It’s important to know what the guidelines mean.

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Dr. Katie Hirsch talks HIIT

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Acutely, C-19 took the fire service out at our knees, and many members are still suffering from long-term issues. Hear what Dr. Burriesci, DPT, says about some of the impacts. Check out the full-length episode here.


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I had the opportunity to meet Dr. Tessa Koschel at the NSCA Northwest regional conference last summer, and I knew we had to be friends. Tessa also recently spoke at the inaugural Women's Tactical Human Performance Summit in OKC

Tessa Koschel is married to an Iraq War Veteran who is now an ER Physician, and the daughter of a military family. Dr. Koschel works closely with the first responder population on cognitive control and p...

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Goal setting is tricky, and behavioral goals work far better than outcome goals. Terms like "more," "less," and "try" trip us up during execution. Hear about SMAR goal setting in today's Spotlight.

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In today’s episode, Dawes and I kicked back with some crispy beverages and reflected on fire academy training.

It’s a hot topic among instructors, and in my opinion, too often, random acts of fitness dominate the physical training sessions.

But here’s the thing...during the 24-1 OSU-OKC academy, I implemented a structured and ability-based program that helped recruits lose body fat, gain skeletal muscle, and improve their 1.5-mile ru...

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