May 7, 2025 • 47 mins
Howard Falco joins us to discuss how awareness—both internal and external—can transform your performance on the golf course and beyond. We explore how our subconscious mind often drives our actions, and how becoming aware of these hidden forces can dramatically improve our game and our lives.
• Acceptance is the first step to improvement—recognizing your current abilities without judgment
• Most amateurs avoid weaknesses while pros actively seek them out to transform them
• Our identity and self-perception create invisible boundaries on our performance
• True improvement requires changing how you fundamentally see yourself as a player
• Curiosity rather than anger is key when facing challenges on the course
• Tiger Woods, Rory McIlroy and other champions win through mindset, not just physical skill
• The most successful players compete against history, not just other players
• Asking yourself "Why not me?" can reveal hidden limitations to overcome
• The "bounce back" statistics of tour players show how quickly they return to their identity
• Self-awareness is potentially the next leap in human evolution
Check out Howard's new book "Invincible: The Mindset of Infinite Potential and the Secret to Inevitable Success" available now. You can also follow Howard on Instagram or visit totalmind.sports.com and howardfalco.com for more information.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hello, this is Jesse Perryman, welcoming you to
another edition of the FlagHunters Golf Podcast.
I am your host, along with myco-host, who is not a board on
this conversation, but his nameis Justin Tang.
He is the lead instructor outof Tanamera Golf Club in
Singapore.
So if you're ever thereespecially if you're a listener
(00:22):
to the podcast you're definitelygoing to want to spend some
time with Justin.
It's worth every second of hiswisdom and insight.
And this week we have on anauthor, a coach speaker.
His name is Howard Falco.
He just recently released abook called Invincible.
He's also the author of anotherbook that I am currently
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reading, called I Am.
He is a coach, and a very goodone at that.
He has a lot of great insightand in this conversation we go
into.
The main theme is awarenessbeing aware of anything and
everything, of anything andeverything, especially
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internally and externally, andhow that awareness really helps
us, not only on the golf coursebut off.
If you think about anythingthat you may be stuck with on
the golf course, maybe it's ahurdle that you need to overcome
, maybe it's qualifying for aUSGA event or, you know, even
playing your local clubchampionship.
We usually have something thatwe're dealing with and, quite
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frankly, there's a good chancethat we are not aware of that.
Whatever that is that isblocking us, and in this
conversation we discussed that.
And in this conversation wediscussed that.
(01:59):
I want to encourage all of youto go out and purchase the book
Invincible I'm about halfwaythrough it right now and's links
and everything are in the shownotes.
And, howard, a big thank you toyou, pal, for coming on.
I really appreciate your timeand your energy and your effort
to not only help all of us playbetter golf, but to make this
world a better place.
Awareness is really a huge,huge, huge thing for all of us
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to think about, to contemplateand to work on, because a lot of
times, what's happening in oursubconscious is driving us and a
lot of times we're not evenaware of it.
So becoming aware of it isgoing to definitely stack the
deck in our favor to to live thelife we want to live, both on
and off the golf course.
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Have a fantastic week and enjoythe episode.
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So this is Jesse Perryman fromthe Flag Hunters Golf Podcast,
welcoming you to another greatedition, and this week's guest
is a powerful one.
His name is Howard Falco.
He's an author and coach,author of three pretty good
books.
One I'm getting into calledInvincible, which is your latest
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one, howard, correct?
Yep, just came out.
Yeah and hey, howard, thanks forcoming on.
I really appreciate it.
You know, yeah, my pleasure.
Thank you for having me on.
Appreciate it.
You know, yeah, my pleasure,thank you for having me on.
It's, it's the intention of ofthis conversation, this episode
and this podcast really is to gobeneath the veil of the surface
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level consciousness, especiallyon the golf course and in
competition.
You know so many, so many of mylisteners, howard, I get a
great feedback and some of thethings that I get constantly is
how can we get out of our ownway, how can we take the charge,
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or at least not accept thecharge, of debilitating thoughts
out there that inevitably comeup, the you know, for example,
you know missing short puttswhen you need to, and then the
shame that comes with it.
Or just we pound ourselvesunmercifully, yeah, for making
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mistakes.
Quite frankly, that's a part ofthe game.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Right, you know making mistakes.
Quite frankly, that's a part ofthe game, right?
So, yeah, I think what this allboils down to the game of golf
you cannot avoid the truth inthe game of golf, and that's
what makes it such a great game.
The ball is static, we'removing and it's all on us.
There's no teammates, we're allunder the same conditions, and
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so and it's all on us, there'sno teammates, we're all under
the same conditions, and so it'sa raw and accelerated path to
truth.
And so the first step, Ibelieve, to getting us to the
next level in this game isreally acceptance.
Right, we have to accept wherewe're at at each given moment in
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playing the game, and that'simportant for a lot of reasons,
you know.
Obviously, we need to know whatwe need to work on, because the
best in the world, I can tellyou, are always looking to see
where their weaknesses are sothey can turn them into
strengths, and the amateur isalways looking to get away from
his weakness and focus on onlywhat he's good at.
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So the key with accepting thetruth is A you see what you need
to work on from a technical ortalent standpoint, but you also
see what you need to work onfrom a psychological standpoint.
Mm-hmm, and we both knowplaying this game both of us
probably a combined 80 years isthat personalities get revealed.
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Right, you are completely nakedwhen you're playing this game.
I think that what's so excitingabout this work is that it
really gets to the heart ofwhere those limitations have
been from a psychologicalstandpoint and it offers a path
of how to get through them.
And that path is a process ofself-awareness, because we all
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know, in playing the game,what's so fascinating about it
is when we have a great nine,that's out of our comfort zone
on the good side I would say outof the mean, standard deviation
from the mean and somehow wecan tend to find a way to get
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back to the mean on the backside.
Oh, I shot 37 on the front, butyou know I had 40 on the back
and came up, you know, rightaround my score.
That's what I usually shoot.
And then our brain accepts itand it says, yeah, that's what I
shoot, that's what I do andwhat is being offered through
this work at least.
Well, this is on the amateurlevel.
On the professional level it'scompletely different, but on the
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amateur level it's.
You don't have to live by thatlimitation and it's even
actually on the professionallevel.
Some guys just know where theyshuffle on the board.
Usually they're always tryingto get better, but they're happy
making a living staying in thattop 125.
And then there's some guys thatlike to stay in the top 50 of
the world and there's some guysit's intolerable for them to be
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outside the top 20 or the top 15in the world.
Where does that come from?
What is the separating factor?
Because they can all hit itright I'm not going to say they
can all put it, because that'swhere it usually shows up and
it's it's a psychological reasonfor that, because that's going
to conclude a hole.
That's going to conclude a holethat's going to give them a
score.
And so that's usually where thesubconscious comes in and they
lip on left side or right sidewhere you know, I mean the best
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was watching Tiger in his heyday.
Everything went in Everything,and there's no non-coincidence
of that.
It's related to belief.
So the question is, how do youget your mind to expand what it
believes is possible for you andhow it sees who you are?
And this is where the bookreally goes into the heart of
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identity.
So a long answer to yourquestion, jesse, but the path is
one of self-awareness tounderstand where our identity
and how we look at ourself hasbeen and how we can expand that
to include more possibility.
That is the process, becausethe minute that changes,
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everything changes, and I'veseen this not only in golf that
I've worked in at the highestlevel, but in every sport, from
the NFL to the NBA to MajorLeague Baseball.
As soon as a human being seesthemselves in a different way,
everything begins to change Sure.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
So that absolutely makes sense.
How do Howard, how do we goabout that process?
How do we?
How do we Well, I mean, yousaid acceptance.
That's definitely the firststep accepting where we're at.
You know, I'm a, I'm a plus onehandicap I can play well.
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At times I can also get in myown way.
I'm a pretty decent example ofdoing that first step and how
it's helped me improve after theage of 50.
Accepting where I'm at,accepting my limitations at the
time and then using that asframework to build on the time
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and then using that as frameworkto build on.
So, as far as, how do weachieve the paradigm shift
internally to how we seeourselves?
With an expanded consciousness,how can we see ourselves become
a champion at whatever level wewant to see ourselves at?
Speaker 2 (11:00):
So the first step, and actually the first step in
the book, is realizing yourinfinite potential, so
understanding that the truth isthere is no limit on possibility
.
That has to be a part of theway you see yourself in the
world that there is no limit,because it's the only way it's
going to build a strong enoughwill to go through the process
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of self-awareness, to be able tolook at where the previous
limitation was and to be able tochange it.
To have the humility to do that, it's got to be driven by the
will.
If you're comfortable, forgetit, you got no chance.
But that's why these guys atthe highest level in the world
are so great because they'renever comfortable.
They always want to keep goingfurther and keep pushing the
limit.
That's what makes themprofessional athletes and that's
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what makes them champions isthat they're unwilling to just
accept it.
And obviously a lot of this hasto do with once you know the
path and once you know theknowledge.
If you don't know the knowledgeof the path, no matter how much
will you have.
But that's what's great aboutthis work on mental strength and
mindfulness is that you learnhow to go about it.
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And the first step, once yourealize, infinite possibility is
okay.
In order for me to change who Iam, I have to know how I got
here.
I have to understand how myidentity was formed, because in
that identity formation you'regoing to see that where the
limits have been, in who you'vebeen and why it's shaked out the
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way it has every single time,and then you can begin to
question it and then you canbegin to change it.
And that's where self-awarenesskicks in, because as soon as
the negative thoughts come in orthe limitations come in where
in the past you just accepted itand you said, oh, that's just
who I am, that's what I do, allthese things that have kept the
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narrative going, that have keptyou at a certain score or a
certain result, you interrupt itand you say, hold on, but does
that have to be who I am now?
I know I hate this hole and Ialways struggle on this hole,
but how can I look at this in anew way, as a new individual and
as a new player, and do I havethe courage to play it a
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different way?
Do I have to smash driver hairor can I hit a longer iron in?
Can I hit something off the tee.
That positions me instead ofalways being three feet off the
fairway in the rough, where nowI'm struggling to a raised green
that's humpbacked and sloped,which is impossible to hold.
Can I make that decision andchange something?
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And that's how it ends upshowing up at the surface.
Does that make sense?
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Yeah, 100%, it does make sense.
I think what you're saying too,just out of my own curiosity,
howard is that takes for someonethat wants to dive into this
work.
It certainly takes a little bitof humility as well, where you
got to be tired of the BS, thestories that we tell ourselves,
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the false acceptance, the oh,that's what I do.
You know, I shot 30 on thefront and I shot 40 on the back.
Eh, 200's not too bad.
You know things like that.
You know things like that, andand and I really want to
challenge the listener to not beaccepting of the BS stories
that we tell ourselves and tocome to a place with hat in hand
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, quite frankly, and say, okay,I want to, I'm accepting where
I'm at.
And now, this being the case,how shall we proceed?
So exactly?
You know that.
So, coming to that level ofawareness, how shall we proceed?
So exactly, you know that?
So, coming to that level ofawareness, how do we get from
being in a place of where we'reat, coming to you, howard, hat
in hand?
I just, you know, played threetournaments in a row.
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I played like crap, I'm, I'm, Ilook at my golf swing on video.
It looks pretty damn good.
I look at my putting stroke.
It's.
It's decent, short game'sdecent.
Nothing is adding up, exceptwhat's going on in my psyche.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yeah, and you know golf is an interesting kind of
you know it's like hidden.
It's a hidden way.
Golfers can be masochists 100%,and they can find their way to
imperfection through golf andthat feeling right Right.
So, if they have felt not goodenough, golf is a great way to
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validate that Right, because youget right close, but you just
don't get over the hump.
And so the answer to yourquestion is hat in hand, the
work is okay.
Where can we dig in and findout?
You know where you have notbeen allowing yourself to see
the truth about your bunker game, your short game, whatever it
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is, that's showing up on thesurface and then going a little
deeper.
How do you feel about who youare?
How do you feel about success?
Do you like who you are?
Can you experience joy andhappiness?
One of the things with a lot ofthe young kids that I work with,
these elite players in highschool and college, is they have
been so used to being angrythat they don't know any other
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way, and so their ego ends upfinding it somehow.
They find the struggle, theyfind the fight, and that's the
comfort zone for them, so theones that make it out of that
are able to break from thatpattern and are able to say do I
always have to be angry?
Even though I've been angryplaying this game my whole life,
does that serve me in where Ineed to go?
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And if you look at the topplayers in the world, you're
going to see somethingcompletely different.
Not that they don't have a lotof energy and a lot of negative
energy that builds when theylook up and they don't see that
ball flying in the window.
They want it to fly in.
There's going to be some anger,but they know how to control it
and, most importantly, theyknow how to get it out of their
body and out of their mindbefore they focus on the next
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shot, because they know who theyare.
I talk about this all the time.
The bounce back stat on tourwhy is it so big?
Why is the birdie after bogeystat so incredible on the tour?
Because they know when they'reout of their comfort zone making
a bogey, it's not who they areand they bounce quickly.
They get themselves.
But that's the power of the mindin getting you back to where
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you believe that you are.
And this goes a little bitdeeper and I'll explain anything
.
So let me know how you want meto do this, but what I learned
about life is that life istrying to meet us with who we
believe that we are on thedeepest level.
What our I am's are on thedeepest level Not who we think
we are, but who we reallybelieve we are and it can't give
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you anything more or anythingless than who you believe that
you are.
So the part about self-awarenessis that it helps you dig in to
really see how you've beenlooking at yourself and where
the lies are in that, because assoon as you free yourself from
limitation and lies about whoyou are and what you're capable
of and you start to see more,then coming down, you know, in
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the tournament on 17, whenyou're in contention, instead of
being nervous and you know alittle bit of energy that's
working against you and yourmuscles and your tempo and your
rhythm.
Now you're like this is exactlywhere I want to be, this is who
I am, let's go finish, let'shit a good shot.
This is exciting, this is fun,and you're looking for a
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different experience becauseyou've conditioned the belief
you have in who you are to ownthat space more.
I tell all my players own thespace.
Who are you when you get intothat moment?
Because that's the mostimportant question you can ask
yourself.
Because if you don't askyourself that and you let your
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subconscious take over, it'sgoing back to right, where it's
always rested, right.
You're going to be strugglingreally hard to swim upstream and
gut that four footer in thehole, whereas on Tuesday, by
yourself, it looked like abucket right, you're just
pouring them in from everywhereand all of a sudden, because it
matters and it's going to changewho you are and it's going to
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bring you some joy and it'sgoing to bring you some success
and it's going to bring you someresults.
Now you're fighting againstthat.
You want it, but your innerself is saying are we worthy of
it?
I don't know.
Is this who I am?
So own the space, decide whoyou're going to be in those
moments, before you even getthere.
Wish you get that opportunity,hope you get that opportunity
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and then, freaking, own it.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Yeah, that's the conditioning, but it has to be
authentic.
You can't just pretend.
You have to really dig in andfind out what it's really been
that that's kept you angry.
I'm not good enough, mygoodness.
I mean, how many times doesthat show up?
If we really look beneath theveil of consciousness, in our
intentions are good, we want togo out and we want to play, well
.
But when we get into thosemoments when we're starting to
get tested, that's when you knowthe, the, you know the shit
hits the fan as far as mentally.
And how powerful in the flipside of it is is how powerful
would it be to be on the 17thhole and to be in contention on
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the last day and to absolutelyembrace that.
Like you said, own it, said,own it.
And I think a lot of listenersare really curious about how to
get there from.
Oh my God, I'm here andwhatever subconscious limiting
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beliefs that we have that startto show up.
And, like you said, we'refighting.
Not only are we fighting ournerves, we're fighting that,
we're fighting the golf course,we're fighting the conditions
and I really don't think it hasto be that way, you know.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Yeah, I'll push back just a touch.
We're not really fighting theconditions and fighting the golf
course, we're really onlyfighting our own self-identity.
Sure, okay, fair enough.
Truly, what it comes down tobecause we've seen it at times
on even on the tour, we've seenguys that have had it in their
hand, yeah, and you watch it andyou can feel it.
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And if you play this game longenough it doesn't matter what
level you play, that you can seeit start to happen in somebody
who's not ready for that moment.
Happen in somebody who's notready for that moment.
And that's the whole point ofall this work for people that
really want to get to theinvincible mind and be ready for
it.
That's the whole point of allthis work is to build your
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mindset around owning it.
You know?
And one question I ask in thebook and this is after a lot of
work reading through the steps,okay, I'm going to throw this
out there One of the mostpowerful questions you can ask
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yourself in this process, whenit comes to anything that you
want to achieve, whether it's ingolf or it's in life, is why
not me?
Yeah, yeah, in that questionand in the response to that will
reveal so much of the reasonwhy it hasn't happened yet.
Because your mind will throwyou some reasons in that moment,
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and I'll make another statementthat I talk about all the time
when I speak or teach, andthat's this that any thought
that causes self-limitation orany sort of idea of yourself
being not good enough or notworthy is a lie or stems from a
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lie.
And that's where sufferingcomes from is when we limit
ourself, because, from auniversal perspective, from a
lie.
And that's where sufferingcomes from is when we limit
ourself.
Because, from a universalperspective, from a deeper
perspective, life is constantlytrying to show us what we're
worth and what is possible forus, and so that's some of the
more deeper sort of maybe moredeeper spiritual or
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consciousness work that one doesto really go through and come
out on the other side looking atthemselves in a completely
different way.
And sometimes it just takesexperience, sometimes it's just
naturally going through it,putting your body through it so
that you can get used to howyour neurons are firing and all
your energy and your nervoussystem.
But once you go through it andyou realize you're not going to
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die as you go through it, thenyou're ready for it next time
and then you combine that with astronger will and a stronger
belief in yourself.
From doing this reflection workand digging out and dissolving
any of these false limitations,then you're really ready to own
the moment and step into it.
It's interesting that you knowany golf field.
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You have a certain level ofintention of the field, right.
So the highest in the world isobviously the PGA Tour.
With a full, strong field,right, you get these half events
.
You get a little less intentionin the field Corn fairy a
little less intention in thefield.
Corn fairy a little less.
Not that these guys aren'ttalented, but you have to be
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ready to match the intention andthat's why you can play so
great at one level and Sameplayer, same golf course.
What's the difference?
The difference is the energy ofthe intention of the field
squeezes out every hiddenlimitation, every insecurity.
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Everything gets with a lot oftimes with hitters or pitchers
that I work with in baseball,and so that's how, that's how
powerful this work is Once yourealize how to tap into it and
how to own more of it in yourmind and I'm going to keep
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stressing this wordauthentically, because you
cannot fool the universe, right,you have to dig in and see wow,
I can't believe.
My dad said that to me when Iwas younger and I I really I
haven't really shaken that sinceI was nine years old or 10
years old, that you know.
He didn't believe I was going toamount to anything and somehow
that still had an influence onme in some way in my life.
When the reality is, at anymoment, you could see that for
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the lie that it is, with havingno power over your life from
this moment forward.
I'm just throwing out,obviously, jesse, one example of
a million different examples.
Sure, but since our parents arethe primary caregivers and
influencers over our nurturingwhich is one of the components
of identity, by the way that'swhere it can show up.
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Where it can show up in yourpersonal experiences when you
failed in a tournament, at onepoint, you know, when you had
the lead and somehow youcouldn't shake that identity.
When it's never who you are,yeah, it's who you were, but you
get to decide who you are inthis moment.
And actually, what makesathletes great is their ability
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to overcome and to bounce.
That's why everybody celebratedRory so much right, I mean that
was.
I mean we all celebrated that,just as a human being.
You know this struggle and thepain and then the joy of winning
and the test he had to gothrough during that back nine.
You know with his own self, youknow with what happened on 13
and then what happened on 18 andyou know, and then you know
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with a bounce back birdie, andit's just, it was incredible.
But anyway, I've kind of goneon a yes question, but so that
that's, that's the journey foreach of us.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Yeah, yeah, so well said, howard.
Just beautiful.
Great explanations, beautiful.
It's funny that you brought upRory.
Excuse me, I was going to askyou about that.
I was going to ask you whatyour opinion was of him.
I mean, it was just about 12months ago where, you know, he
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had a tough finish at the USOpen and it hurt him, you Open
and it hurt him.
You could just tell it hurt himand for him to bounce back.
What do you think he acceptedabout that?
What do you think, just inspirit, well, rory's got great
humility.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Yeah, he's willing to talk openly about where his
failures are, what he's tryingto learn.
I mean he's been so open andcandid through this whole
process, even through the wholething that went down with the
pga.
I mean he's really been just areally good human being.
I feel, you know in in sharinghis journey with people and and
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honoring the pGA Tour andhonoring history, and so I think
that the golf gods were.
Karma was on his side.
Good karma was on his side.
He had to go through his test.
Obviously, he's been on a goodrun and then he wins the players
and he's coming into form.
He's feeling good, but when youwant something so bad, it can
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creep in.
It crept in a little bit on 13,but he didn't let it bother him
, went right back to work.
Yeah, got to 18, probably ashot he can execute nine out of
10 times and he just didn't getthe face closed fully and now
he's got to get it.
You know, in this normally notnot a hard up and down, but in
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the situation and it you know a10 out of 10 in difficulty,
right, given the situation andwhat it meant to him.
But he hung in there and cameback and I knew when, when the
in playoff, that there was noway with the class he has and
what just happened, that hewasn't going to do anything but
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execute that shot.
Yeah, and he did, against areally formidable competitor.
But I think he just wentthrough his journey and went
through his fire and I even feltlike the bounce back round
after the bad round.
Was it on Friday, I can'tremember now.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Yeah, Friday.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Yeah, yeah.
And then he had the bounce backSaturday.
Was it where he started off on?
Ridiculously strong on thefront, like like he?
That was it, like that was histest, or one of them, one of
many tests throughout the round.
But anyway, he was willing togo through what he needed to go
through on his journey toexecute and his will was strong
enough.
His belief was strong enough.
His desire, since he was achild, was strong enough.
And after how many years, 20starts was 14?
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, something like that.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Yeah, it was up.
It's up there.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Yeah, it was his time he walked, but he had to
execute and he had to staypresent and he did it.
Yeah, yes, he did, but thatability is open to anybody at
any level, like anybodylistening to this.
The next round they go out.
If you just dedicate it tobeing your mentally most
strongest round possible, thatyou're going to do something
(30:03):
different, that this time you'renot going to get angry at
yourself, you're going to getcurious when something happens
Okay, I'll need to work on thatafter the round that's angry
anymore.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Yeah, that's, that's powerful there, howard.
I want to stop you there andexpand on that Curious getting
curious instead of reactive.
I mean you can set thatintention Today.
I'm going to get curious, I'mgoing to notice what's going on
with me and I'm going to askmyself the why.
(30:40):
Maybe after, maybe take notes,maybe a voice memo in your phone
, as far as interrupting things,you know, interrupting the
status quo that we all dounconsciously out there, Depends
on where you want to go withyour game.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Who do you want to be as a player?
Do you want to stay at thislevel and never get further, or
do you want to play at the nextlevel?
If you want to play at the nextlevel, you better learn how to
manage your energy.
You better learn how to be aprofessional.
You better learn how to stopworking against yourself.
If you want to be stubborn, gofor it, but you're going to have
a rerun tomorrow and the nextday and the next day you have to
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be willing to do somethingdifferent because you believe in
yourself and your ability.
And I know anger has worked yourwhole career.
But how is it working now foryou?
Is it working now for you?
And so it's time to mature andgo to the next level with it
Doesn't mean you're not gonnahave energy and you're gonna
have your 10 second rule whereyou'll be able to get energy out
(31:32):
.
Just gotta do it in a classyway.
Nicholas used to hit his thighand say come on, jack.
And, by the way, this brings upsomething really important
Tiger, jack, when they got angryat themselves, they never were
self-deprecating Right Ever.
It was always like come on Jack.
Come on Tiger.
(31:52):
They used it in a sort of amotivating way.
Like you know, you're betterthan this type of way, so that's
something to be conscious of.
But the old saying of insanityis doing the same thing over and
over and expecting a differentresult.
So self-awareness allows you tosay who do I want to be today?
And can I monitor how my body,my ego, my mind is reacting?
(32:16):
And can I grade myself at theend of a round and say how did I
do today?
Maybe I didn't play my best,but how did I handle myself
mentally?
Did I do a good job?
Great, I'm going to go and dothat tomorrow, while I still try
and play better.
And sometimes things take alittle time and the universe
tests us, you know, because ifwe think we're going to change
something and instantly we'regoing to have success and we
(32:37):
have that expectation, that canbe a problem too.
See, it didn't work.
I was calm today and I stillplayed like crap.
Okay, do the best players inthe world get pissed off all the
time and angry and screaming atthemselves and do they do well?
No, so you're fooling yourself.
Stay with this, keep working atit and you'll have your
(32:57):
breakthrough.
You have to believe that.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Yeah, yeah, a little patience, a little bit of
stick-to-itiveness, especiallywhen one comes to this place of
okay, I'm reading Invincible.
I've read Howard's stuff andhere I am, I'm getting going
with this thing and you know,shifts take time.
(33:33):
They really do they take time,they can take time, they can.
You know I'm especially with mythoughts.
You know thoughts can betray usand I've talked to a lot of
folks that.
How do you you know, I knowsome friends on tour how do you
deal with negative thoughts, howdo you deal with self-doubt or
(33:58):
anything like that, and you'rehitting it right on the head?
Meditation's really helped mequite a bit.
Separates just give me a littlebit more time between hitting a
poor shot or even inpreparation of a shot.
Just it seems to slow thingsdown.
Is that something that yourecommend?
Speaker 2 (34:19):
yeah, I mean, meditation is a good tool to
slow things down and get presentright, so that you can be more
of a witness to yourself, so youcan catch yourself, so that the
subconscious doesn't just takeover.
That's what presence reallydoes.
When you're not present, yoursubconscious is just running the
show right and you don't wantit to keep running the show.
If you want it to change, youhave to be conscious of it so
that you can interrupt thepatterns and do something
(34:40):
different.
One of the players I worked withon tour um, the stories in the
book, um, the whole idea wasabout looking at himself in a
different, more expanded waythan how he had previously seen
himself.
Talent level off the charts,determination back class, all
(35:03):
off the charts.
But the belief about competingat the highest level wasn't
quite there yet.
And over time, as the beliefstarted to change, the
performance started to changeand as the performance started
to change, it built on itselfand now he's known as one of the
strongest, mentally strongclosers in the game right now.
(35:23):
So it's about a process ofself-awareness and redefining
who you are and being willing toput that to the test and then
dealing with the results, takingthe information, getting
curious and then reapplyingagain, that is.
I know this formula soundssimple, but it's so powerful
(35:43):
when it's combined with a reallystrong will, and that's how you
outwill everybody elseultimately.
Sure, it's not just hard work,it's not just talent level, it's
it's mind and how you see andlook at who you are.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
I mean that is so well said, Howard.
I think that if we really makea neutral observation of all the
greats in the game, they allembody that.
Like Tiger, for example, he wongolf tournaments with his mind.
He didn't necessarily hit itthe best out there, in fact he
got passed up as far as indistance.
(36:24):
When he came out he was thelongest and you know not, I mean
not that he didn't not hit itgood, but he beat those guys
with his mind, jack, the sameway.
I mean we can go down the listNancy Lopez, annika, my friend,
lydia Ko, so many greats todaywith Rory and Scotty Shuffler.
(36:45):
My goodness, you know they havea presence about them.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
It's a presence born out of a belief in how they see
who they are.
They do not see limitation.
They respect everybody outthere.
They have great respect foreverybody out there, but they do
not see limitation in their ownself of what they can achieve
and they demand that type ofperformance out of themselves.
They do, you know, and andthey'll work until they get it,
(37:13):
because they don't say that'sgood enough, you know, no, I
want it to be here now.
They won't speak about it thatmuch, because sometimes it seems
a little.
You know, it can seem egoic andit's not.
It's actually just coming froma really strong belief, sure,
and how they look at themselvesand what they, what they demand
out of themselves, and it's sofinite at that level you're
(37:34):
talking about eight billionpeople on the planet, you're
talking about 130 would be inthe top 10 or top five of that.
There, there's no room fordoubt, right, let me say that
again.
There's no room for doubt.
Wow, there's really no room fordoubt in golf, right, as soon
as doubt's there, you're out offlow, right, right right, that
(37:58):
you know.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
I don't know why, as a society we've all been, it
seems like we've been afraid ofthat, um, afraid of our own
greatness, of our own power, ofour own potential, you know.
I mean, does that make sense?
Speaker 2 (38:12):
it makes perfect sense, there's a really famous
marianne williamson quote thatthat it's not our deepest fears
that we're worried about.
It's our greatness.
And there's actually a reasonfor that and the reason is
because the ego likes boundaryright.
It likes to know where youstand, where your boundaries are
, and so when you step intogreatness, you're opening up
(38:37):
into that infinite field ofpossibility that's unknown what
it's going to mean, where it'sgoing to take you, how it's
going to change things, andthat's what people can regulate
and step into and sort of pacetime into.
The greats define themselves bybeing in that unbounded space
of infinite possibility.
It's one of the tenets in inthe book.
(38:59):
Convinced in the book is thatthat is where they live in that
space.
Michael jordan you know hedidn't define himself, um, by
winning championships.
He defined himself as thegreatest player ever and
(39:22):
therefore he loved it when thegame was close, because then he
got to shine and be creative andpush that boundary of unlimited
possibility.
He ended up getting sixchampionships, but it was
because he defined himself as agreat athlete to begin with.
There's also a great quote inthe book about Tiger in
Invincible, where there's areporter that made a comment.
I'll never forget about it.
It said, the reason Tiger is sogreat is that he doesn't define
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his competition as otherplayers.
His competition is history.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
Boy.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
Is that a horizon to look at my goodness, just
working to be better than youwere yesterday.
(40:13):
You'll have fun with it, you'llenjoy it and before you know it
, it'll show up in your scoresand in your results and you
weren't even looking at it.
You were just focused onexpanding your ability as a
player.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
Yeah Well, that's powerful, howard, that's very
powerful.
You know, just the Tigerexample, that just I mean,
that's infinite possibility.
There I'm playing againsthistory, um, and I, I would, I
would very much like to seethese concepts taught in school.
(40:48):
I mean, my goodness, now you're, you know now you're speaking
my language you know, that's oneof the one of the things I'm
working towards.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
That's why this book is structured like a curriculum.
Sure, because I eventuallywould like to see young people
16, 17, 18, before they graduatehigh school, mandatory
self-awareness class,self-discovery class, right, so
at least they understand howmuch the way they think about
who they are impacts everydecision they're going to make
when they get out into life.
Of course, and and it could, itcould save so much suffering,
(41:19):
it could help so much with themental health issues out there
when people see the truth aboutwho they are, which is so
unbelievably amazing andbeautiful, um, if they'll allow
themselves to keep going downthat that path.
So, um, and that's what I'velearned.
That was my personal journey,you know.
Which changed everything for mewas realizing, wow, we create so
(41:39):
much suffering for ourselves.
We don't know any different.
We just product of ournurturing and our product, you
know, to a certain degree ofgenetics, passes on not just eye
color and hair color and skincolor, passes on social and
thinking tendencies.
But the beautiful thing is thatit all can be changed.
We can learn to rewire the waythat we think about who we are.
(42:00):
See who we are.
The field of epigenetics showsthat our genes are changing real
time based on our interactionwith our environment and how we
decide we're going to survive.
The expression of our genesstarts to change and then we
pass that to the next generation.
So so this is very exciting toreally go into this part of
(42:20):
mental strength and andself-awareness.
But I agree, you hit the nailon the head Like you know you're
now you're really talking mylanguage.
I want to see a big change outthere for people.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
Yeah, I mean, just you know, for me and my own
personal journey in this gameand in life, Howard, I just when
, when I started to just thediscipline of meditation you
know, 15 minutes a day um, Ididn't really know what the
results were going to be.
And then I started thinking, Istarted seeing myself behave and
react differently on the golfcourse and and that led to me
(42:57):
asking more questions like howcome this isn't taught, how come
that?
What you said self awareness,becoming aware when we're I mean
, that's really the kind of oneof the secrets to life is
becoming self-aware 100%.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
It's the whole purpose of life Expansion of
awareness.
We're continuing to learn moreand more, and I believe that is
the next leap in human evolutionis a greater sense of awareness
of who we are and what ispossible, because the mental
health crisis is showinganything is that we need more
(43:35):
work, because I've learned thatall suffering comes from a
misunderstanding of self.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
Right, yeah, and that misunderstanding of self is,
you know, like you said, couldbe genetic, could be parental,
it could, you know,circumstantial, whatever.
But also, too, I want toencourage everyone that's
listening that, um, you know, ifthere's any struggle with, with
, with mental issues, to look atthe people also that have
(44:02):
overcome, uh, a lot of stuff youknow, um, and and have got you
know in our game.
I mean, my goodness, I, I, I,uh, I watched a documentary on
Calvin Pete the other day and heovercame a lot I can't imagine
now, you know, and in some ofthe older school guys, I mean
ben hogan, you know, at nineyears of age he watched his dad
(44:23):
blow his head off and he over, Imean, he overcame, uh, that, um
, that would pretty much crippleanybody, but he went on to know
to be the greatest ball strikerof our of all time.
Um, and and Howard, I mean,this conversation has been so
enriching and enlightening, um,you know, again, I'm I'm going
(44:44):
to encourage all the listenersto go and and check out his
latest book, invincible HowardFalco.
Um, and uh, you, you have awebsite that people can get
ahold of you, sure.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
Yep.
For golf specific, you can goto total mind.
Sportscom is the website I alsohave my.
My regular website is HowardFalcocom, and then my book
invincible, the mindset ofinfinite potential and the
secret to inevitable success is,um, on Amazon, Barnes and Noble
(45:17):
and uh, everywhere books aresold.
And then you can follow me onInstagram, uh, where I share a
lot of this work on a dailybasis with people.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
Um, so if you want to fill your curate, your feed
with some positive, upliftingstuff, yeah, absolutely, um, and
and those who are listening andmyself, including this one,
really to do a deep dive on this, because these are the
intangibles that we've beenwanting to unearth and bring to
(45:46):
the surface.
Good term, because,unfortunately, even though it's
growing, it still isn'tmainstream, it's still not
talked about enough.
You know it really isn't andyou know this is really kind of
the crux and the lifeblood ofwhy I started this podcast,
howard, is to have theseconversations, out of my own
(46:07):
curiosity, to help you knowthose, or you know, maybe
there's a kid that can hear this.
Yeah, to help you know those.
Or you know, maybe there's akid that can hear this and uh,
and can seek you out and thatcan change his trajectory or her
trajectory and their family'strajectory.
But it's got to start somewhereand it starts with these
conversations and folks like youthat are releasing this really
(46:29):
powerful, not not only golfaffirming but life affirming
information.
So thank you for blazing thetrail, howard.
Oh, thank you very affirminginformation.
So thank you for blazing thetrail, howard.
Speaker 2 (46:37):
Thank you very much, jesse, and thank you for all you
do to get this word out and tohelp people.
There's it's, you know.
One of my favorite songs saysyou know, one of my favorite
songs of all time is Stairway toHeaven.
There's a line in there is thatyour stairway lies on the
whispering wind, and what Ireally believe that means is
that's really truly how closethis awareness is that can
(46:59):
change your life, and so I justwould encourage anybody, if
they're struggling, just to knowthat in any moment, it can all
change and the universe isalways trying to get you insight
and information to help you.
Maybe even what's coming at youright now is a great example of
that, and so to always havehope that things can change for
(47:19):
the better in any moment.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
Wow.
Thank you, Howard.
Thank you very, very much foryour time and your expertise and
I would love to have you onagain and continue this
conversation Be my pleasure.
Hello, this is Jesse Perryman, welcoming you to
another edition of the FlagHunters Golf Podcast.
I am your host, along with myco-host, who is not a board on
this conversation, but his nameis Justin Tang.
He is the lead instructor outof Tanamera Golf Club in
Singapore.
So if you're ever thereespecially if you're a listener
(00:22):
to the podcast you're definitelygoing to want to spend some
time with Justin.
It's worth every second of hiswisdom and insight.
And this week we have on anauthor, a coach speaker.
His name is Howard Falco.
He just recently released abook called Invincible.
He's also the author of anotherbook that I am currently
(00:45):
reading, called I Am.
He is a coach, and a very goodone at that.
He has a lot of great insightand in this conversation we go
into.
The main theme is awarenessbeing aware of anything and
everything, of anything andeverything, especially
(01:09):
internally and externally, andhow that awareness really helps
us, not only on the golf coursebut off.
If you think about anythingthat you may be stuck with on
the golf course, maybe it's ahurdle that you need to overcome
, maybe it's qualifying for aUSGA event or, you know, even
playing your local clubchampionship.
We usually have something thatwe're dealing with and, quite
(01:33):
frankly, there's a good chancethat we are not aware of that.
Whatever that is that isblocking us, and in this
conversation we discussed that.
And in this conversation wediscussed that.
(01:59):
I want to encourage all of youto go out and purchase the book
Invincible I'm about halfwaythrough it right now and's links
and everything are in the shownotes.
And, howard, a big thank you toyou, pal, for coming on.
I really appreciate your timeand your energy and your effort
to not only help all of us playbetter golf, but to make this
world a better place.
Awareness is really a huge,huge, huge thing for all of us
(02:28):
to think about, to contemplateand to work on, because a lot of
times, what's happening in oursubconscious is driving us and a
lot of times we're not evenaware of it.
So becoming aware of it isgoing to definitely stack the
deck in our favor to to live thelife we want to live, both on
and off the golf course.
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So this is Jesse Perryman fromthe Flag Hunters Golf Podcast,
welcoming you to another greatedition, and this week's guest
is a powerful one.
His name is Howard Falco.
He's an author and coach,author of three pretty good
books.
One I'm getting into calledInvincible, which is your latest
(04:13):
one, howard, correct?
Yep, just came out.
Yeah and hey, howard, thanks forcoming on.
I really appreciate it.
You know, yeah, my pleasure.
Thank you for having me on.
Appreciate it.
You know, yeah, my pleasure,thank you for having me on.
It's, it's the intention of ofthis conversation, this episode
and this podcast really is to gobeneath the veil of the surface
(04:34):
level consciousness, especiallyon the golf course and in
competition.
You know so many, so many of mylisteners, howard, I get a
great feedback and some of thethings that I get constantly is
how can we get out of our ownway, how can we take the charge,
(04:56):
or at least not accept thecharge, of debilitating thoughts
out there that inevitably comeup, the you know, for example,
you know missing short puttswhen you need to, and then the
shame that comes with it.
Or just we pound ourselvesunmercifully, yeah, for making
(05:21):
mistakes.
Quite frankly, that's a part ofthe game.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Right, you know making mistakes.
Quite frankly, that's a part ofthe game, right?
So, yeah, I think what this allboils down to the game of golf
you cannot avoid the truth inthe game of golf, and that's
what makes it such a great game.
The ball is static, we'removing and it's all on us.
There's no teammates, we're allunder the same conditions, and
(05:45):
so and it's all on us, there'sno teammates, we're all under
the same conditions, and so it'sa raw and accelerated path to
truth.
And so the first step, Ibelieve, to getting us to the
next level in this game isreally acceptance.
Right, we have to accept wherewe're at at each given moment in
(06:07):
playing the game, and that'simportant for a lot of reasons,
you know.
Obviously, we need to know whatwe need to work on, because the
best in the world, I can tellyou, are always looking to see
where their weaknesses are sothey can turn them into
strengths, and the amateur isalways looking to get away from
his weakness and focus on onlywhat he's good at.
(06:27):
So the key with accepting thetruth is A you see what you need
to work on from a technical ortalent standpoint, but you also
see what you need to work onfrom a psychological standpoint.
Mm-hmm, and we both knowplaying this game both of us
probably a combined 80 years isthat personalities get revealed.
(06:53):
Right, you are completely nakedwhen you're playing this game.
I think that what's so excitingabout this work is that it
really gets to the heart ofwhere those limitations have
been from a psychologicalstandpoint and it offers a path
of how to get through them.
And that path is a process ofself-awareness, because we all
(07:20):
know, in playing the game,what's so fascinating about it
is when we have a great nine,that's out of our comfort zone
on the good side I would say outof the mean, standard deviation
from the mean and somehow wecan tend to find a way to get
(07:41):
back to the mean on the backside.
Oh, I shot 37 on the front, butyou know I had 40 on the back
and came up, you know, rightaround my score.
That's what I usually shoot.
And then our brain accepts itand it says, yeah, that's what I
shoot, that's what I do andwhat is being offered through
this work at least.
Well, this is on the amateurlevel.
On the professional level it'scompletely different, but on the
(08:03):
amateur level it's.
You don't have to live by thatlimitation and it's even
actually on the professionallevel.
Some guys just know where theyshuffle on the board.
Usually they're always tryingto get better, but they're happy
making a living staying in thattop 125.
And then there's some guys thatlike to stay in the top 50 of
the world and there's some guysit's intolerable for them to be
(08:30):
outside the top 20 or the top 15in the world.
Where does that come from?
What is the separating factor?
Because they can all hit itright I'm not going to say they
can all put it, because that'swhere it usually shows up and
it's it's a psychological reasonfor that, because that's going
to conclude a hole.
That's going to conclude a holethat's going to give them a
score.
And so that's usually where thesubconscious comes in and they
lip on left side or right sidewhere you know, I mean the best
(08:53):
was watching Tiger in his heyday.
Everything went in Everything,and there's no non-coincidence
of that.
It's related to belief.
So the question is, how do youget your mind to expand what it
believes is possible for you andhow it sees who you are?
And this is where the bookreally goes into the heart of
(09:16):
identity.
So a long answer to yourquestion, jesse, but the path is
one of self-awareness tounderstand where our identity
and how we look at ourself hasbeen and how we can expand that
to include more possibility.
That is the process, becausethe minute that changes,
(09:41):
everything changes, and I'veseen this not only in golf that
I've worked in at the highestlevel, but in every sport, from
the NFL to the NBA to MajorLeague Baseball.
As soon as a human being seesthemselves in a different way,
everything begins to change Sure.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
So that absolutely makes sense.
How do Howard, how do we goabout that process?
How do we?
How do we Well, I mean, yousaid acceptance.
That's definitely the firststep accepting where we're at.
You know, I'm a, I'm a plus onehandicap I can play well.
(10:24):
At times I can also get in myown way.
I'm a pretty decent example ofdoing that first step and how
it's helped me improve after theage of 50.
Accepting where I'm at,accepting my limitations at the
time and then using that asframework to build on the time
(10:46):
and then using that as frameworkto build on.
So, as far as, how do weachieve the paradigm shift
internally to how we seeourselves?
With an expanded consciousness,how can we see ourselves become
a champion at whatever level wewant to see ourselves at?
Speaker 2 (11:00):
So the first step, and actually the first step in
the book, is realizing yourinfinite potential, so
understanding that the truth isthere is no limit on possibility
.
That has to be a part of theway you see yourself in the
world that there is no limit,because it's the only way it's
going to build a strong enoughwill to go through the process
(11:21):
of self-awareness, to be able tolook at where the previous
limitation was and to be able tochange it.
To have the humility to do that, it's got to be driven by the
will.
If you're comfortable, forgetit, you got no chance.
But that's why these guys atthe highest level in the world
are so great because they'renever comfortable.
They always want to keep goingfurther and keep pushing the
limit.
That's what makes themprofessional athletes and that's
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what makes them champions isthat they're unwilling to just
accept it.
And obviously a lot of this hasto do with once you know the
path and once you know theknowledge.
If you don't know the knowledgeof the path, no matter how much
will you have.
But that's what's great aboutthis work on mental strength and
mindfulness is that you learnhow to go about it.
(12:04):
And the first step, once yourealize, infinite possibility is
okay.
In order for me to change who Iam, I have to know how I got
here.
I have to understand how myidentity was formed, because in
that identity formation you'regoing to see that where the
limits have been, in who you'vebeen and why it's shaked out the
(12:27):
way it has every single time,and then you can begin to
question it and then you canbegin to change it.
And that's where self-awarenesskicks in, because as soon as
the negative thoughts come in orthe limitations come in where
in the past you just accepted itand you said, oh, that's just
who I am, that's what I do, allthese things that have kept the
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narrative going, that have keptyou at a certain score or a
certain result, you interrupt itand you say, hold on, but does
that have to be who I am now?
I know I hate this hole and Ialways struggle on this hole,
but how can I look at this in anew way, as a new individual and
as a new player, and do I havethe courage to play it a
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different way?
Do I have to smash driver hairor can I hit a longer iron in?
Can I hit something off the tee.
That positions me instead ofalways being three feet off the
fairway in the rough, where nowI'm struggling to a raised green
that's humpbacked and sloped,which is impossible to hold.
Can I make that decision andchange something?
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And that's how it ends upshowing up at the surface.
Does that make sense?
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Yeah, 100%, it does make sense.
I think what you're saying too,just out of my own curiosity,
howard is that takes for someonethat wants to dive into this
work.
It certainly takes a little bitof humility as well, where you
got to be tired of the BS, thestories that we tell ourselves,
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the false acceptance, the oh,that's what I do.
You know, I shot 30 on thefront and I shot 40 on the back.
Eh, 200's not too bad.
You know things like that.
You know things like that, andand and I really want to
challenge the listener to not beaccepting of the BS stories
that we tell ourselves and tocome to a place with hat in hand
(14:29):
, quite frankly, and say, okay,I want to, I'm accepting where
I'm at.
And now, this being the case,how shall we proceed?
So exactly?
You know that.
So, coming to that level ofawareness, how shall we proceed?
So exactly, you know that?
So, coming to that level ofawareness, how do we get from
being in a place of where we'reat, coming to you, howard, hat
in hand?
I just, you know, played threetournaments in a row.
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I played like crap, I'm, I'm, Ilook at my golf swing on video.
It looks pretty damn good.
I look at my putting stroke.
It's.
It's decent, short game'sdecent.
Nothing is adding up, exceptwhat's going on in my psyche.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yeah, and you know golf is an interesting kind of
you know it's like hidden.
It's a hidden way.
Golfers can be masochists 100%,and they can find their way to
imperfection through golf andthat feeling right Right.
So, if they have felt not goodenough, golf is a great way to
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validate that Right, because youget right close, but you just
don't get over the hump.
And so the answer to yourquestion is hat in hand, the
work is okay.
Where can we dig in and findout?
You know where you have notbeen allowing yourself to see
the truth about your bunker game, your short game, whatever it
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is, that's showing up on thesurface and then going a little
deeper.
How do you feel about who youare?
How do you feel about success?
Do you like who you are?
Can you experience joy andhappiness?
One of the things with a lot ofthe young kids that I work with,
these elite players in highschool and college, is they have
been so used to being angrythat they don't know any other
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way, and so their ego ends upfinding it somehow.
They find the struggle, theyfind the fight, and that's the
comfort zone for them, so theones that make it out of that
are able to break from thatpattern and are able to say do I
always have to be angry?
Even though I've been angryplaying this game my whole life,
does that serve me in where Ineed to go?
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And if you look at the topplayers in the world, you're
going to see somethingcompletely different.
Not that they don't have a lotof energy and a lot of negative
energy that builds when theylook up and they don't see that
ball flying in the window.
They want it to fly in.
There's going to be some anger,but they know how to control it
and, most importantly, theyknow how to get it out of their
body and out of their mindbefore they focus on the next
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shot, because they know who theyare.
I talk about this all the time.
The bounce back stat on tourwhy is it so big?
Why is the birdie after bogeystat so incredible on the tour?
Because they know when they'reout of their comfort zone making
a bogey, it's not who they areand they bounce quickly.
They get themselves.
But that's the power of the mindin getting you back to where
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you believe that you are.
And this goes a little bitdeeper and I'll explain anything
.
So let me know how you want meto do this, but what I learned
about life is that life istrying to meet us with who we
believe that we are on thedeepest level.
What our I am's are on thedeepest level Not who we think
we are, but who we reallybelieve we are and it can't give
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you anything more or anythingless than who you believe that
you are.
So the part about self-awarenessis that it helps you dig in to
really see how you've beenlooking at yourself and where
the lies are in that, because assoon as you free yourself from
limitation and lies about whoyou are and what you're capable
of and you start to see more,then coming down, you know, in
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the tournament on 17, whenyou're in contention, instead of
being nervous and you know alittle bit of energy that's
working against you and yourmuscles and your tempo and your
rhythm.
Now you're like this is exactlywhere I want to be, this is who
I am, let's go finish, let'shit a good shot.
This is exciting, this is fun,and you're looking for a
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different experience becauseyou've conditioned the belief
you have in who you are to ownthat space more.
I tell all my players own thespace.
Who are you when you get intothat moment?
Because that's the mostimportant question you can ask
yourself.
Because if you don't askyourself that and you let your
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subconscious take over, it'sgoing back to right, where it's
always rested, right.
You're going to be strugglingreally hard to swim upstream and
gut that four footer in thehole, whereas on Tuesday, by
yourself, it looked like abucket right, you're just
pouring them in from everywhereand all of a sudden, because it
matters and it's going to changewho you are and it's going to
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bring you some joy and it'sgoing to bring you some success
and it's going to bring you someresults.
Now you're fighting againstthat.
You want it, but your innerself is saying are we worthy of
it?
I don't know.
Is this who I am?
So own the space, decide whoyou're going to be in those
moments, before you even getthere.
Wish you get that opportunity,hope you get that opportunity
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and then, freaking, own it.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Yeah, that's the conditioning, but it has to be
authentic.
You can't just pretend.
You have to really dig in andfind out what it's really been
that that's kept you angry.
I'm not good enough, mygoodness.
I mean, how many times doesthat show up?
If we really look beneath theveil of consciousness, in our
intentions are good, we want togo out and we want to play, well
.
But when we get into thosemoments when we're starting to
get tested, that's when you knowthe, the, you know the shit
hits the fan as far as mentally.
And how powerful in the flipside of it is is how powerful
would it be to be on the 17thhole and to be in contention on
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the last day and to absolutelyembrace that.
Like you said, own it, said,own it.
And I think a lot of listenersare really curious about how to
get there from.
Oh my God, I'm here andwhatever subconscious limiting
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beliefs that we have that startto show up.
And, like you said, we'refighting.
Not only are we fighting ournerves, we're fighting that,
we're fighting the golf course,we're fighting the conditions
and I really don't think it hasto be that way, you know.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Yeah, I'll push back just a touch.
We're not really fighting theconditions and fighting the golf
course, we're really onlyfighting our own self-identity.
Sure, okay, fair enough.
Truly, what it comes down tobecause we've seen it at times
on even on the tour, we've seenguys that have had it in their
hand, yeah, and you watch it andyou can feel it.
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And if you play this game longenough it doesn't matter what
level you play, that you can seeit start to happen in somebody
who's not ready for that moment.
Happen in somebody who's notready for that moment.
And that's the whole point ofall this work for people that
really want to get to theinvincible mind and be ready for
it.
That's the whole point of allthis work is to build your
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mindset around owning it.
You know?
And one question I ask in thebook and this is after a lot of
work reading through the steps,okay, I'm going to throw this
out there One of the mostpowerful questions you can ask
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yourself in this process, whenit comes to anything that you
want to achieve, whether it's ingolf or it's in life, is why
not me?
Yeah, yeah, in that questionand in the response to that will
reveal so much of the reasonwhy it hasn't happened yet.
Because your mind will throwyou some reasons in that moment,
(22:35):
and I'll make another statementthat I talk about all the time
when I speak or teach, andthat's this that any thought
that causes self-limitation orany sort of idea of yourself
being not good enough or notworthy is a lie or stems from a
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lie.
And that's where sufferingcomes from is when we limit
ourself, because, from auniversal perspective, from a
lie.
And that's where sufferingcomes from is when we limit
ourself.
Because, from a universalperspective, from a deeper
perspective, life is constantlytrying to show us what we're
worth and what is possible forus, and so that's some of the
more deeper sort of maybe moredeeper spiritual or
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consciousness work that one doesto really go through and come
out on the other side looking atthemselves in a completely
different way.
And sometimes it just takesexperience, sometimes it's just
naturally going through it,putting your body through it so
that you can get used to howyour neurons are firing and all
your energy and your nervoussystem.
But once you go through it andyou realize you're not going to
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die as you go through it, thenyou're ready for it next time
and then you combine that with astronger will and a stronger
belief in yourself.
From doing this reflection workand digging out and dissolving
any of these false limitations,then you're really ready to own
the moment and step into it.
It's interesting that you knowany golf field.
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You have a certain level ofintention of the field, right.
So the highest in the world isobviously the PGA Tour.
With a full, strong field,right, you get these half events
.
You get a little less intentionin the field Corn fairy a
little less intention in thefield.
Corn fairy a little less.
Not that these guys aren'ttalented, but you have to be
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ready to match the intention andthat's why you can play so
great at one level and Sameplayer, same golf course.
What's the difference?
The difference is the energy ofthe intention of the field
squeezes out every hiddenlimitation, every insecurity.
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Everything gets with a lot oftimes with hitters or pitchers
that I work with in baseball,and so that's how, that's how
powerful this work is Once yourealize how to tap into it and
how to own more of it in yourmind and I'm going to keep
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stressing this wordauthentically, because you
cannot fool the universe, right,you have to dig in and see wow,
I can't believe.
My dad said that to me when Iwas younger and I I really I
haven't really shaken that sinceI was nine years old or 10
years old, that you know.
He didn't believe I was going toamount to anything and somehow
that still had an influence onme in some way in my life.
When the reality is, at anymoment, you could see that for
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the lie that it is, with havingno power over your life from
this moment forward.
I'm just throwing out,obviously, jesse, one example of
a million different examples.
Sure, but since our parents arethe primary caregivers and
influencers over our nurturingwhich is one of the components
of identity, by the way that'swhere it can show up.
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Where it can show up in yourpersonal experiences when you
failed in a tournament, at onepoint, you know, when you had
the lead and somehow youcouldn't shake that identity.
When it's never who you are,yeah, it's who you were, but you
get to decide who you are inthis moment.
And actually, what makesathletes great is their ability
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to overcome and to bounce.
That's why everybody celebratedRory so much right, I mean that
was.
I mean we all celebrated that,just as a human being.
You know this struggle and thepain and then the joy of winning
and the test he had to gothrough during that back nine.
You know with his own self, youknow with what happened on 13
and then what happened on 18 andyou know, and then you know
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with a bounce back birdie, andit's just, it was incredible.
But anyway, I've kind of goneon a yes question, but so that
that's, that's the journey foreach of us.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Yeah, yeah, so well said, howard.
Just beautiful.
Great explanations, beautiful.
It's funny that you brought upRory.
Excuse me, I was going to askyou about that.
I was going to ask you whatyour opinion was of him.
I mean, it was just about 12months ago where, you know, he
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had a tough finish at the USOpen and it hurt him, you Open
and it hurt him.
You could just tell it hurt himand for him to bounce back.
What do you think he acceptedabout that?
What do you think, just inspirit, well, rory's got great
humility.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Yeah, he's willing to talk openly about where his
failures are, what he's tryingto learn.
I mean he's been so open andcandid through this whole
process, even through the wholething that went down with the
pga.
I mean he's really been just areally good human being.
I feel, you know in in sharinghis journey with people and and
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honoring the pGA Tour andhonoring history, and so I think
that the golf gods were.
Karma was on his side.
Good karma was on his side.
He had to go through his test.
Obviously, he's been on a goodrun and then he wins the players
and he's coming into form.
He's feeling good, but when youwant something so bad, it can
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creep in.
It crept in a little bit on 13,but he didn't let it bother him
, went right back to work.
Yeah, got to 18, probably ashot he can execute nine out of
10 times and he just didn't getthe face closed fully and now
he's got to get it.
You know, in this normally notnot a hard up and down, but in
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the situation and it you know a10 out of 10 in difficulty,
right, given the situation andwhat it meant to him.
But he hung in there and cameback and I knew when, when the
in playoff, that there was noway with the class he has and
what just happened, that hewasn't going to do anything but
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execute that shot.
Yeah, and he did, against areally formidable competitor.
But I think he just wentthrough his journey and went
through his fire and I even feltlike the bounce back round
after the bad round.
Was it on Friday, I can'tremember now.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Yeah, Friday.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Yeah, yeah.
And then he had the bounce backSaturday.
Was it where he started off on?
Ridiculously strong on thefront, like like he?
That was it, like that was histest, or one of them, one of
many tests throughout the round.
But anyway, he was willing togo through what he needed to go
through on his journey toexecute and his will was strong
enough.
His belief was strong enough.
His desire, since he was achild, was strong enough.
And after how many years, 20starts was 14?
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, something like that.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Yeah, it was up.
It's up there.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Yeah, it was his time he walked, but he had to
execute and he had to staypresent and he did it.
Yeah, yes, he did, but thatability is open to anybody at
any level, like anybodylistening to this.
The next round they go out.
If you just dedicate it tobeing your mentally most
strongest round possible, thatyou're going to do something
(30:03):
different, that this time you'renot going to get angry at
yourself, you're going to getcurious when something happens
Okay, I'll need to work on thatafter the round that's angry
anymore.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Yeah, that's, that's powerful there, howard.
I want to stop you there andexpand on that Curious getting
curious instead of reactive.
I mean you can set thatintention Today.
I'm going to get curious, I'mgoing to notice what's going on
with me and I'm going to askmyself the why.
(30:40):
Maybe after, maybe take notes,maybe a voice memo in your phone
, as far as interrupting things,you know, interrupting the
status quo that we all dounconsciously out there, Depends
on where you want to go withyour game.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Who do you want to be as a player?
Do you want to stay at thislevel and never get further, or
do you want to play at the nextlevel?
If you want to play at the nextlevel, you better learn how to
manage your energy.
You better learn how to be aprofessional.
You better learn how to stopworking against yourself.
If you want to be stubborn, gofor it, but you're going to have
a rerun tomorrow and the nextday and the next day you have to
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be willing to do somethingdifferent because you believe in
yourself and your ability.
And I know anger has worked yourwhole career.
But how is it working now foryou?
Is it working now for you?
And so it's time to mature andgo to the next level with it
Doesn't mean you're not gonnahave energy and you're gonna
have your 10 second rule whereyou'll be able to get energy out
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.
Just gotta do it in a classyway.
Nicholas used to hit his thighand say come on, jack.
And, by the way, this brings upsomething really important
Tiger, jack, when they got angryat themselves, they never were
self-deprecating Right Ever.
It was always like come on Jack.
Come on Tiger.
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They used it in a sort of amotivating way.
Like you know, you're betterthan this type of way, so that's
something to be conscious of.
But the old saying of insanityis doing the same thing over and
over and expecting a differentresult.
So self-awareness allows you tosay who do I want to be today?
And can I monitor how my body,my ego, my mind is reacting?
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And can I grade myself at theend of a round and say how did I
do today?
Maybe I didn't play my best,but how did I handle myself
mentally?
Did I do a good job?
Great, I'm going to go and dothat tomorrow, while I still try
and play better.
And sometimes things take alittle time and the universe
tests us, you know, because ifwe think we're going to change
something and instantly we'regoing to have success and we
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have that expectation, that canbe a problem too.
See, it didn't work.
I was calm today and I stillplayed like crap.
Okay, do the best players inthe world get pissed off all the
time and angry and screaming atthemselves and do they do well?
No, so you're fooling yourself.
Stay with this, keep working atit and you'll have your
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breakthrough.
You have to believe that.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Yeah, yeah, a little patience, a little bit of
stick-to-itiveness, especiallywhen one comes to this place of
okay, I'm reading Invincible.
I've read Howard's stuff andhere I am, I'm getting going
with this thing and you know,shifts take time.
(33:33):
They really do they take time,they can take time, they can.
You know I'm especially with mythoughts.
You know thoughts can betray usand I've talked to a lot of
folks that.
How do you you know, I knowsome friends on tour how do you
deal with negative thoughts, howdo you deal with self-doubt or
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anything like that, and you'rehitting it right on the head?
Meditation's really helped mequite a bit.
Separates just give me a littlebit more time between hitting a
poor shot or even inpreparation of a shot.
Just it seems to slow thingsdown.
Is that something that yourecommend?
Speaker 2 (34:19):
yeah, I mean, meditation is a good tool to
slow things down and get presentright, so that you can be more
of a witness to yourself, so youcan catch yourself, so that the
subconscious doesn't just takeover.
That's what presence reallydoes.
When you're not present, yoursubconscious is just running the
show right and you don't wantit to keep running the show.
If you want it to change, youhave to be conscious of it so
that you can interrupt thepatterns and do something
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different.
One of the players I worked withon tour um, the stories in the
book, um, the whole idea wasabout looking at himself in a
different, more expanded waythan how he had previously seen
himself.
Talent level off the charts,determination back class, all
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off the charts.
But the belief about competingat the highest level wasn't
quite there yet.
And over time, as the beliefstarted to change, the
performance started to changeand as the performance started
to change, it built on itselfand now he's known as one of the
strongest, mentally strongclosers in the game right now.
(35:23):
So it's about a process ofself-awareness and redefining
who you are and being willing toput that to the test and then
dealing with the results, takingthe information, getting
curious and then reapplyingagain, that is.
I know this formula soundssimple, but it's so powerful
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when it's combined with a reallystrong will, and that's how you
outwill everybody elseultimately.
Sure, it's not just hard work,it's not just talent level, it's
it's mind and how you see andlook at who you are.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
I mean that is so well said, Howard.
I think that if we really makea neutral observation of all the
greats in the game, they allembody that.
Like Tiger, for example, he wongolf tournaments with his mind.
He didn't necessarily hit itthe best out there, in fact he
got passed up as far as indistance.
(36:24):
When he came out he was thelongest and you know not, I mean
not that he didn't not hit itgood, but he beat those guys
with his mind, jack, the sameway.
I mean we can go down the listNancy Lopez, annika, my friend,
lydia Ko, so many greats todaywith Rory and Scotty Shuffler.
(36:45):
My goodness, you know they havea presence about them.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
It's a presence born out of a belief in how they see
who they are.
They do not see limitation.
They respect everybody outthere.
They have great respect foreverybody out there, but they do
not see limitation in their ownself of what they can achieve
and they demand that type ofperformance out of themselves.
They do, you know, and andthey'll work until they get it,
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because they don't say that'sgood enough, you know, no, I
want it to be here now.
They won't speak about it thatmuch, because sometimes it seems
a little.
You know, it can seem egoic andit's not.
It's actually just coming froma really strong belief, sure,
and how they look at themselvesand what they, what they demand
out of themselves, and it's sofinite at that level you're
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talking about eight billionpeople on the planet, you're
talking about 130 would be inthe top 10 or top five of that.
There, there's no room fordoubt, right, let me say that
again.
There's no room for doubt.
Wow, there's really no room fordoubt in golf, right, as soon
as doubt's there, you're out offlow, right, right right, that
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you know.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
I don't know why, as a society we've all been, it
seems like we've been afraid ofthat, um, afraid of our own
greatness, of our own power, ofour own potential, you know.
I mean, does that make sense?
Speaker 2 (38:12):
it makes perfect sense, there's a really famous
marianne williamson quote thatthat it's not our deepest fears
that we're worried about.
It's our greatness.
And there's actually a reasonfor that and the reason is
because the ego likes boundaryright.
It likes to know where youstand, where your boundaries are
, and so when you step intogreatness, you're opening up
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into that infinite field ofpossibility that's unknown what
it's going to mean, where it'sgoing to take you, how it's
going to change things, andthat's what people can regulate
and step into and sort of pacetime into.
The greats define themselves bybeing in that unbounded space
of infinite possibility.
It's one of the tenets in inthe book.
(38:59):
Convinced in the book is thatthat is where they live in that
space.
Michael jordan you know hedidn't define himself, um, by
winning championships.
He defined himself as thegreatest player ever and
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therefore he loved it when thegame was close, because then he
got to shine and be creative andpush that boundary of unlimited
possibility.
He ended up getting sixchampionships, but it was
because he defined himself as agreat athlete to begin with.
There's also a great quote inthe book about Tiger in
Invincible, where there's areporter that made a comment.
I'll never forget about it.
It said, the reason Tiger is sogreat is that he doesn't define
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his competition as otherplayers.
His competition is history.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
Boy.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
Is that a horizon to look at my goodness, just
working to be better than youwere yesterday.
(40:13):
You'll have fun with it, you'llenjoy it and before you know it
, it'll show up in your scoresand in your results and you
weren't even looking at it.
You were just focused onexpanding your ability as a
player.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
Yeah Well, that's powerful, howard, that's very
powerful.
You know, just the Tigerexample, that just I mean,
that's infinite possibility.
There I'm playing againsthistory, um, and I, I would, I
would very much like to seethese concepts taught in school.
(40:48):
I mean, my goodness, now you're, you know now you're speaking
my language you know, that's oneof the one of the things I'm
working towards.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
That's why this book is structured like a curriculum.
Sure, because I eventuallywould like to see young people
16, 17, 18, before they graduatehigh school, mandatory
self-awareness class,self-discovery class, right, so
at least they understand howmuch the way they think about
who they are impacts everydecision they're going to make
when they get out into life.
Of course, and and it could, itcould save so much suffering,
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it could help so much with themental health issues out there
when people see the truth aboutwho they are, which is so
unbelievably amazing andbeautiful, um, if they'll allow
themselves to keep going downthat that path.
So, um, and that's what I'velearned.
That was my personal journey,you know.
Which changed everything for mewas realizing, wow, we create so
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much suffering for ourselves.
We don't know any different.
We just product of ournurturing and our product, you
know, to a certain degree ofgenetics, passes on not just eye
color and hair color and skincolor, passes on social and
thinking tendencies.
But the beautiful thing is thatit all can be changed.
We can learn to rewire the waythat we think about who we are.
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See who we are.
The field of epigenetics showsthat our genes are changing real
time based on our interactionwith our environment and how we
decide we're going to survive.
The expression of our genesstarts to change and then we
pass that to the next generation.
So so this is very exciting toreally go into this part of
(42:20):
mental strength and andself-awareness.
But I agree, you hit the nailon the head Like you know you're
now you're really talking mylanguage.
I want to see a big change outthere for people.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
Yeah, I mean, just you know, for me and my own
personal journey in this gameand in life, Howard, I just when
, when I started to just thediscipline of meditation you
know, 15 minutes a day um, Ididn't really know what the
results were going to be.
And then I started thinking, Istarted seeing myself behave and
react differently on the golfcourse and and that led to me
(42:57):
asking more questions like howcome this isn't taught, how come
that?
What you said self awareness,becoming aware when we're I mean
, that's really the kind of oneof the secrets to life is
becoming self-aware 100%.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
It's the whole purpose of life Expansion of
awareness.
We're continuing to learn moreand more, and I believe that is
the next leap in human evolutionis a greater sense of awareness
of who we are and what ispossible, because the mental
health crisis is showinganything is that we need more
(43:35):
work, because I've learned thatall suffering comes from a
misunderstanding of self.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
Right, yeah, and that misunderstanding of self is,
you know, like you said, couldbe genetic, could be parental,
it could, you know,circumstantial, whatever.
But also, too, I want toencourage everyone that's
listening that, um, you know, ifthere's any struggle with, with
, with mental issues, to look atthe people also that have
(44:02):
overcome, uh, a lot of stuff youknow, um, and and have got you
know in our game.
I mean, my goodness, I, I, I,uh, I watched a documentary on
Calvin Pete the other day and heovercame a lot I can't imagine
now, you know, and in some ofthe older school guys, I mean
ben hogan, you know, at nineyears of age he watched his dad
(44:23):
blow his head off and he over, Imean, he overcame, uh, that, um
, that would pretty much crippleanybody, but he went on to know
to be the greatest ball strikerof our of all time.
Um, and and Howard, I mean,this conversation has been so
enriching and enlightening, um,you know, again, I'm I'm going
(44:44):
to encourage all the listenersto go and and check out his
latest book, invincible HowardFalco.
Um, and uh, you, you have awebsite that people can get
ahold of you, sure.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
Yep.
For golf specific, you can goto total mind.
Sportscom is the website I alsohave my.
My regular website is HowardFalcocom, and then my book
invincible, the mindset ofinfinite potential and the
secret to inevitable success is,um, on Amazon, Barnes and Noble
(45:17):
and uh, everywhere books aresold.
And then you can follow me onInstagram, uh, where I share a
lot of this work on a dailybasis with people.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
Um, so if you want to fill your curate, your feed
with some positive, upliftingstuff, yeah, absolutely, um, and
and those who are listening andmyself, including this one,
really to do a deep dive on this, because these are the
intangibles that we've beenwanting to unearth and bring to
(45:46):
the surface.
Good term, because,unfortunately, even though it's
growing, it still isn'tmainstream, it's still not
talked about enough.
You know it really isn't andyou know this is really kind of
the crux and the lifeblood ofwhy I started this podcast,
howard, is to have theseconversations, out of my own
(46:07):
curiosity, to help you knowthose, or you know, maybe
there's a kid that can hear this.
Yeah, to help you know those.
Or you know, maybe there's akid that can hear this and uh,
and can seek you out and thatcan change his trajectory or her
trajectory and their family'strajectory.
But it's got to start somewhereand it starts with these
conversations and folks like youthat are releasing this really
(46:29):
powerful, not not only golfaffirming but life affirming
information.
So thank you for blazing thetrail, howard.
Oh, thank you very affirminginformation.
So thank you for blazing thetrail, howard.
Speaker 2 (46:37):
Thank you very much, jesse, and thank you for all you
do to get this word out and tohelp people.
There's it's, you know.
One of my favorite songs saysyou know, one of my favorite
songs of all time is Stairway toHeaven.
There's a line in there is thatyour stairway lies on the
whispering wind, and what Ireally believe that means is
that's really truly how closethis awareness is that can
(46:59):
change your life, and so I justwould encourage anybody, if
they're struggling, just to knowthat in any moment, it can all
change and the universe isalways trying to get you insight
and information to help you.
Maybe even what's coming at youright now is a great example of
that, and so to always havehope that things can change for
(47:19):
the better in any moment.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
Wow.
Thank you, Howard.
Thank you very, very much foryour time and your expertise and
I would love to have you onagain and continue this
conversation Be my pleasure.
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