June 6, 2025 • 61 mins
Austrian golf coach Christoph Bausek joins us to share his journey from elite amateur to European tour coach who revolutionized his teaching through technology, science, and engaging social media content.
• Started golf at age 3 near his family's weekend home in Austria
• Competed with top juniors like Sergio Garcia and Henrik Stenson before trying professional golf
• Failed as a tour player due to technical swing issues that weren't properly diagnosed
• Discovered TPI and 3D motion analysis around 2008, becoming obsessed with measuring what elite players do differently
• Transformed from nearly 400 pounds to losing 150 pounds after gastric sleeve surgery
• Created highly successful German YouTube channel focusing on golf instruction
• Gained international fame with POV videos showing swing concepts from player's perspective
• Emphasizes "universal truths" in the golf swing while making complex concepts digestible
• Developed a coaching system called "cubic five" - five exercises done five times a week for five minutes
• Currently offers online coaching through the Sneed app while building English-language content
Find Christoph on Instagram @christoph_bausek and subscribe to his YouTube channel "Bausek Golf" for innovative swing tips and instruction.
Also to reach Justin, justin@elitegolfswing.com
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hello, this is Jesse Perryman of the Fly Hunters Golf
Podcast.
Welcome back after a little bitof a break.
My wife and I went to Europefor about three weeks and took a
little time off, so welcomeback.
Welcome to summer.
Golf season is here, y'all.
Hopefully, you did your duediligence in the offseason and
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got ahead of it.
You're coming out ready to rolland you listen to plenty of my
podcasts and with me and Justinand whoever else to help you get
to where you want to go in thisgame.
Well, this week we haveChristoph Bausack.
Christopher Chris is a Europeantour coach, helps the guys over
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there on the DP World Tour andover on the other side of the
pond from us in the US.
He is located in Austria.
It's a great conversation.
We talk about his methodology,we talk about what he's overcome
in his personal life and justsome of the things in the game.
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It's just cool, real casualconversation, super fun, but I'm
sure you're going to getsomething out of it.
You can find ChristophChristopher easily on Instagram.
I'm going to make sure to puthis links on the show notes, but
since we're here, it'sChristoph.
It's C-R-I-S-T-O-P-H.
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Underscore Bausek B-A-U-S-E-K.
For those who are on Instagram.
And we got the US Open coming upthis week.
I'm sure Scotty's pretty mucheveryone's favorite and we'll
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probably do a little bit of a USOpen discussion afterwards.
So once again, please rememberto rate, review and subscribe.
And a shout out once again toMizuno Golf and out once again
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of the show, and I hope everyoneis having a great week and we
will talk soon.
Cheers, folks.
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Hello and welcome to anotheredition of the Flag Hunters Golf
Podcast.
My name is Jesse Perryman.
I am your host, along with myco-host, justin Tang, teacher
extraordinaire, my brother fromanother mother in Singapore.
I am currently in Californiaright now, where it's sunny,
perfect, and our guest today isChristophe Bausik.
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Christophe, welcome, palAppreciate you coming on.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Thanks, Justin.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Hey, thanks, christophe.
So Jesse and I are on a missionto interview really smart
coaches who also who, besidesbeing technically brilliant,
also understand the softer sideof coaching the game.
You obviously have a deeptechnical background expertise,
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but that doesn't really comeacross as overbearing on your
YouTube and Instagram videos.
Before we get into yourcoaching philosophy, could you
share with our listeners?
How did you get started in golf?
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Well, I started golf at a very young age.
I was like probably three yearsold.
My dad was really into golf andwe had a little house next to
the golf course.
We lived about 40 minutes awayfrom the golf course and we had
like a little holiday housethere.
And when I was a kid, myparents went there in the
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weekends and played golf there,and actually my brother and I we
just played in the forest nextto the golf course and we're
looking for golf balls.
You know, just like what you doas a kid.
Yeah, like when I was like 11,12, 13-ish, I started to have
more intense training,children's training, and yeah,
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and one day at this my dad askedhey, do you want to play the
Austrian under-14 championships?
I was like 13 years old backthen.
I said, yeah, of course I wantto play.
I was like a handicap 13 backthen, with 13 years, and I
thought it was pretty good.
I mean, nowadays it was notgood, but I thought it was
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pretty good and I thought itwould do really well.
And actually in that tournamentI was second to last and I was
so angry that I was so angrythat I told my dad listen.
When we went home I said listen, dad, next year I'm going to
win this tournament.
And I really really startedpracticing then from that moment
on.
That was late 1990, early 1991.
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I'm 47 years now as we arerecording this and um.
So I got really motivated andactually the year after that I I
finished second, I finishedsecond yeah, I was angry again
yeah, I was angry again but um,but I really developed as a
player back then when I was like14, 15 years old and I got
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pretty good really fast.
And when I was like 17 yearsold, I was the number one in
Austria in the amateur rankingsand I had the also in Europe.
I was one of the best players.
I was like, you know, I wasplaying with the boys like
Sergio Garcia and other guyslike Henrik Stenson and all
these boys you know, they weremy generation and I played in
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the European Juniors Continentteam back then, which was like
the Ryder Cup for Europe, wherethe continent of Europe plays
against Great Britain andIreland.
And yeah, and I was like,probably when I turned pro, when
I was like 20, I was one of thebest amateurs in Europe and I
actually thought, okay, I mighthave a nice chance to make a
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tour card and play on theEuropean tour back then and I
have a career, you know, flyingwith private jets and that kind
of stuff.
Didn't happen, unfortunatelyDidn't happen.
I'm spoiling this, but um, yeah, but it was really interesting.
I had a nice journey there asan amateur and I played for six
years in europe, like like thethird level tour was like the
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alps tour.
I don't know if you guys arefamiliar with that, but that's
like the third level tour.
It's like the the alps tour.
I don't know if you guys arefamiliar with that, but that's
like the third level tour ineurope yeah, like the corn fairy
of the us not even the cornfairy, it's the, it's the, it's
the hooters tour of the whateverthat still exists, I don't know
.
But, um, but it was like a thirdlevel tour and and played it
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and also like the challenge tour, which is probably the
equivalent to the Coen Ferrytour.
Yeah, but I just wasn't goodenough, to be honest.
To be honest, my long game wasreally sucking.
To be honest, I mean I wasn'tthat long.
I mean I was at okay length,but not like crazy long, and I
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was hooking the ball and likehitting two to three snap hooks
every round and it was reallytough to, you know, compete in
professional golf with thatdriving, driving the way I was
doing back then.
And the short game was reallygood.
My putting was awesome.
I was really known for being aa king with that.
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But, uh, my long day was justsucking and actually back then
in the yeah, probably with likeeight late 90s, there was nobody
really there who understoodanything about the golf swing,
especially at the elite level.
So, yeah, long story short, Ifailed and I was so pissed off
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about failing that I dideverything to find out what went
wrong.
Yeah, that's how I basicallystarted my journey.
Yeah and yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
So you didn't make it on tour as a player, but you
certainly have made it as a tourcoach.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Yes, absolutely.
It was funny because, like lastyear, I was here at the Classic
coaching my protege, lucasNemetz, and he was playing there
and I was there in the players'lounge looking down at the
driving range where Michael Roywas running next to me, adam
Scott was running there and Ilooked at the nice sushi they
had there in the bar and I saidin the players' lounge and I
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said, okay, now you're therewhere you always wanted to be,
but just as a coach, not as aplayer.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
I really enjoyed that .
So so maybe no, no private jets, but certainly private cards,
yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
But the thing is, the thing is, um, just in back back
then when I failed um, I did mypga training, the pga of
austria training, and um, and Irecognized very fast this is not
the whole story.
I mean this this was basicstuff.
You know what you learn as agolf teacher, like how to do um,
beginners courses and, uh,juniors programs and that kind
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of stuff, but um, basictechnical stuff.
But there was.
I knew there was much more andI wanted to find out what went
wrong with my goal.
Why did I suck so much?
And, to be honest, I was like 26years old back then and I
thought, okay, if you do yourpga training, you know, earn
some money.
If you're in your late 20s,early 30s, you still can play
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competitive golf and maybe goback to two again.
So I thought, okay, I could tryto become a better version
maybe of myself, and which Iobviously never did.
But um, but the cool thing wasI got in touch.
That must have been like in thelate, I don't know 2007, 2008
or something.
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I got in touch first time withtpi.
Greg rose was playing somethinglike that.
Yeah, late, late 2007.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
8 yeah, that that's when they really kick-started
the program and it coincidedwith the time where TrackMan
first came out.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Yeah, but I remember I was there at the seminar in
Holland and met Greg Rose thefirst time and it was like a
level one TPI and I heard thefirst time in my life about the
body swing connection.
And I heard the first time inmy life about the body swing
connection and there was a guyfrom Holland there who had an
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AMM 3D or 6D system with the 12sensor system.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Michael Voss.
Pardon, was it a PGAprofessional by the name of
Michael Vail vos?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
no, it was not because, no, no, no, I forgot
the name.
To be honest, maybe I I canrecall it, but I forgot it.
But the thing was they offeredus back in the seminar hey guys,
you can have a 3d analysis ofyour, of the golf swing.
And that was the first time Ireally saw something about what
is a kinematic sequence, what is, um, how the body parts move
that you were actually able tomove.
That I heard first time in mylife about efficiency.
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So I I said please, guys, canyou um, take a, um a caption of
my golf swing?
Speaker 3 (11:34):
thinking back then um , you still had a chance how
good this is, how efficient.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
I was just pure.
I was so unlucky not to make itlike that kind of stuff.
And basically, uh, they told mestuff like listen, your hip
speed, if you were on the touryou would have the by far the
slowest hip speed on tour.
You have the flattest hip turnon tour.
If you were on the tour, yoursequence is not good.
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And uh, yeah, and basically itwas not as good as I thought it
was, to be honest, and thatreally that really made me angry
back then.
So, if you can imagine so, andI thought, oh, but it was cool
in one way because I thought,hey, finally I found something
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where somebody said you're notgood, because I always heard
you're good, you're good whenyou were just, you're just at a
bad mental state of mind or youwere just lazy or whatever,
which I said I wasn't, but I,but I just, to be honest, my
swing wasn't good enough backthen and I had the wrong idea
about ball flight loss.
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I had the wrong idea aboutabout the body should be moving
in the golf swing and I had thewrong idea about power
production and that kind ofstuff.
So I went on and actuallystarted trying to find
everything I could find about 3D, which was really, really tough
back then in 2008, 2009, 2010.
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And then I got my first trackman.
I remember in Austria, all theother pros were looking at me
like I'm an alien.
You know what's going on.
Why are you buying this stupidstuff here?
You know, this is a sportsfield, not about science.
You know, and I was gettingvery science-y, yeah and yeah, I
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hooked up with a synolink withchris welsh in the synonyms.
There must have been I don'tknow 2010 it's a long time ago.
I can't believe this.
Yes, indeed yeah, and chrishelped me get some basic
knowledge about this stuff.
But the the problem I had withSinoLink back then was they
basically you could send in yourswing and there was like a 3D
cube and you could.
You had to film it from twoangles and you send it to the
company and they would do a 3Danalysis of it.
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And it took a couple of daysuntil you had it and I thought,
hey, I need, I need a 3Danalysis in my golf lessons
because I was teaching.
Of course I I need a 3Danalysis in my golf lessons
because I was teaching.
Of course I need the 3Danalysis in a minute, not after
one week.
The client is gone after oneweek.
So I bought myself an EMM 60walkabout system, which is like
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a three sensor system, and Ibasically started everything I
could about 3D graphs, about notonly the ones I was using but
every graph.
I mean, I talked to everybodywho was like a little bit
involved in that.
Back then I met also JohnGraham.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Aimpoint.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Yeah, john got me into Aimpoint and John had a
fantastic blog back then and itwas a very critical thinker and
I really enjoyed his um yeah, itwas maybe a little bit of
mentoring even there, because hewas like he was like, uh,
asking me critical questions andand stuff that I start thinking
, you know, and and I also hadJohn over in Austria a couple
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times, yeah, so I started withAimpoint, so everything built up
.
You know, I had the 3d system, Ihad the aimpoint, I had
trackman, I was really, I wouldsay, ahead of everybody in my
area, in austria at least, andum, and I was measuring
everybody, I was measuringprofessionals, I was measuring
elite players, junior golfers,beginners, basically everybody
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was on 3D.
So I learned very quickly whatthe best players do and what the
worst players do.
Let's put it this way, from akinematic standpoint, you know,
from how the body moves, abouthow the positions of the joints,
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the angles and how everythingmoves in 3d space.
So I mean I'm actually like forprobably for 10 years, in every
lesson I measured 3d.
I mean I, I see a golf swingand I knew, you know, I mean you
guys probably were working withtrackman.
You know, when you got thetrackmen you were guessing maybe
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, okay, what's the path orwhat's the attacking, or
something like that.
I think we all did that, didn'twe?
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Yeah, the funny thing is this right, I think you can
be a human trackman, but youcannot be a human AMM, human
sports box, or, for that matter,human GR, a human swing
catalyst.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
No, but if you work a lot with those things, you see
patterns, or you see movementpatterns where you think, okay,
this could be happening or thiscould be the way it would be
representing as a graph, and Idid like little games with
myself.
Okay, what do I think?
What do I think is thekinematic sequence on this guy?
What do I think is the, the pbsband on this guy?
Does he, how much, does he sidebend?
You know this.
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I did all this, like like you dowith the track man.
You say, oh, I think he's sixdown two degrees from the
outside.
I was doing the same with 3d.
Of course you, of course youdon't get it 100, but I was
pretty good after a while.
So, so, yes, but the biggestproblem, justin, was I.
Now you've got all this data,you can know everything that's
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happening, but how do you changeit?
How do you apply it in yourteaching?
And there has been a time in myteaching career where I was
maybe what should I say?
Maybe too complicated, maybe,or maybe too nerdy, maybe.
So I had to learn how to getsimpler, how to get the message
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across much, much simpler.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Yeah, and that's, and that's the the my next question
you've got all this technicalbackground, technical knowledge
and a lot of coaches are thesame, but they can't seem to
apply.
But you realize very early onthat you needed to address the
person in front of you.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Exactly.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
So who were your coaching influences from the
point of communicating thistechnical information in easy to
understand lessons?
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Well, so the question is how I started to to
basically um, applying it in aneasy way.
Yep, the thing is, um, therewere, there were the two things.
Um, of course, I I kept ondoing educations, um, with like
with young ho kwon and uh, withmike adams and, and obviously
with Smart2Move and all the guys.
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I've got my 3D place.
And one thing was like when Istarted to visit Mike Adams, I
have to say I like the way howhe put people into categories,
basically, or is he a front Soon?
Speaker 3 (19:00):
launch Glenn.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Yeah, whatever you know, and you can think about it
what you want.
But I think it's a brilliantway to communicate with people.
You say, okay, listen, you'rethis and you're not.
That you know.
So you can give a very clearpath on what you want to achieve
with the student, becausesometimes, because the thing I
was struggling with in the,let's say, in the 2011, 12, I
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had all this knowledge but Isaid, okay, I want to try this
and I want to do this and, as wesee what fits better for you,
blah, blah, blah.
But it got so complicated forthe students, sometimes also for
the good players I was workingwith that.
At the end of the day, Ithought, okay, I don't have a
clear system, a clear picture ofwhat I'm actually doing.
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I'm just like fixing things,you know, and I liked it a lot,
that approach from Mike Adams alot.
That helped me really a lot toget the idea of getting
everything clear in my mind, ofwhat I want to achieve.
And I still enjoy actuallyscreening people.
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You know and I'm not sayingthat this is something I say
it's, it has to be the way, butI would I like to do screening
just to see what, what you know,what it says and what is what
you would expect and stuff likethat.
It's a.
It's a very good screening anda very good method.
I would say and I spent timewith Scott Cox I have to say
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Scott, I have to give reallycredit to Scott.
Scott has a very similar way ofthinking about the golf swing
that I always did.
What I really enjoyed aboutScott was that he said you have
this different pattern instead.
Of.
What I really enjoyed aboutScott was Kaukse was that he
said you know you have thisdifferent patterns the elephant
trunk pattern, you have the, youhave the Planar mechanics and
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non-planar mechanics.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Exactly, that was very interesting.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Yeah, very interesting, and the way he was
thinking about the golf swing,you know, and also there was
like a structure to the wholething and that's what I, that's
what I, that's how I started tothink about my own structure,
about how I want to be as acoach.
And it's maybe a blend of acouple of people, also young,
who, um and and young, who wasalso very technical in the
beginning, uh, with his seminars, and he got more and more into
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application recently, I wouldsay.
And so it's a couple of guys, Iwould say, who have inspired me
to become a teacher.
That's more easier, or maybetrying to look about what's
happening.
And I was a tour player myselfand I know, hey, listen, in the
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end of the day, on the drivingrange, you can think about a
thousand things if you want, youknow, but the problem is you're
standing on the golf course onthe second day before the cut.
It's a 50 miles per hour galeblowing in your face.
You are just holding to theclub that you don't lose it
because it's raining.
You don't think about where youput the pressure on your trail
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foot in the whatever you know,and what you do with your wrist.
You don't do that.
You just don't do that, okay.
So so there's, so it has to be.
In the end of the day, you needcues or very simple ideas you
can do under a stress situation,and that's what I really try to
do with my elite players.
That I find are like a way thatthey, um, maybe one swing idea
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and maybe, but work on multiplethings the same time.
In training I I have a a littlelike a, a training system.
I like to call it cubic five,like it's a, five exercises.
I like to work out with theplayers five exercises they do
five times a week for fiveminutes, so it's 25 minutes,
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maybe the pause, it's maybeclose to half an hour, five
times a week and it's like, andI it's like I keep one space for
grip and set that, one for theearly backswing, one for the
second part of the backswing,one for the follow-through or
the downswing thoughts, and onefor ground reaction.
And then I play around, I givethem the drills, this drill for
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this, this drill for this, thisdrill for this, and they just do
it five times a week for fiveminutes, you know, and and they
get the reps in, but one of them, one of those feelings will
work really nicely in the golfcourse.
As a simple thought maybe youknow, and this is the one I want
them to play with, but whenthey go back practicing, they do
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these exercises again, so itbecomes second nature after a
while, it becomes very normalfor them and I've been very
successful, um, working withplayers and changing the golf
swings, and also for, like,players who are playing golf for
many, many, many, many years,because you know we are, we are
stubborn, we have, we, we played, we played for so many years
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where you know you, look at you,look at your swing 10 years ago
, it looks the same like, uh,like 20 years ago.
You know it always looks liketoday.
It just maybe you got older andstiff, but that's, that's all
but but, um, but, um, I canactually see my own swing.
I had a huge change the lastyears just because I understood
what I was doing and I was alsodoing my exercises.
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I was doing training with, with, with cogs, you know and also
online and and, and he inspiredme a lot of doing online
training myself.
I'm offering also onlinetraining now via the Sneed app
and it's also a lot of fun doingonline stuff, especially in the
winter in Austria when it'sreally really really cold.
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Yeah, but basically with theinfluence of those people and
with about my playing background, I would say I developed quite
a nice coaching style and a wayhow to help players improve.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
Your coaching style is very well received on social
media, so how do you get yourideas for your social media
videos and maybe from therecould you talk a little bit
about your greatest hits?
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Okay, so maybe I'll start with social media like
this way In 2018, 17, I was atum, who had a big, big online
business with um online courses,setting his film, pre-filling
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his early courses and sellingthem online.
And he and he I talked to himfor about two or three hours and
he told me how he did it, andum, how he was doing free
content and getting peopleknowing him, and then suddenly
putting a paywall in front ofthe people and say, okay, now
buy my products, basically.
So I thought that was afantastic idea.
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I love the idea because Ithought, you know, when you are
teaching golf, you only canserve one client at a time, or
maybe, if you have a course,maybe four or five, six people,
you know.
But I always had the goal Iwanted to put my knowledge into
so many people's heads that Ican really have an impact on the
whole world with my teaching.
Basically, maybe, uh, maybe.
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It was like I was obsessed withthis idea.
I wanted to get my knowledgeout there.
I was so angry, but peopledidn't know about the d-plane,
that people didn't know abouthow the body works in the golf
swing.
I heard all this stupid advice,you know, and I wanted to get
it out, the message out, so Idecided, okay, that's what I
want to do.
I want to create content forfree and I want to get online
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courses out and I want to have adigital solution that people
all over the world can work withme.
Somebody who's in Australia canwork with me in Austria.
I think that's the way itshould be and the modern
approach of teaching golf.
You're not stuck to yourprofessional at home.
You can't get taught by anybodyin the whole world.
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That's the nice thing aboutthose iPhones we have here and
about all the technology comingout.
So I decided to do a YouTubechannel in 2017.
I had no idea how to switch on acamera.
I didn't know how to film.
I didn't know how to edit.
I didn't know how to talk infront of a camera.
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Plus, there was another problem.
Um, maybe people who know mefor a while on social media they
are maybe aware of this, but Ihad a massive, massive obesity
problem.
I was really really, reallyheavy, and I'm talking about.
I was close to four over 400pounds.
I mean, I was like 400 poundsof body weight.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
How tall, are you christoph?
Speaker 2 (28:05):
um, uh, what would that be like?
Six foot three or something, so187, I think, centimeters, um,
so, so I was really reallymassively heavy and I didn't
look good in front of a cameraand I couldn't hardly breathe
anymore because I was so fat,you know, and um, it was a
consequence, consequence of acouple of things that got me in
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this situation.
You know, in the beginning,when you get really, really
obese, you think, okay, you'rean idiot, you just don't have
discipline, but actually it's adisease, like you know, like
it's an eating disorderbasically, and it's an eating
disorder basically, yeah, and um, it's a, it's a problem.
And I got, uh, I got in asituation where I I was probably
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not far away of dying and I wasin a situation of not being
received well, in front ofpeople, in front of a camera,
but I was standing in front ofthe camera anyway and did this
stuff, you know, and I got thejokes or look at this fatty pool
, you know, and whatever,whatever, and he's giving all
his golf tips and he can't evenbreathe, you know, um, which I
didn't bother that much becauseI know they're right, but, um, I
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did a, but then I did a major,major um um thing in my life.
I I had a operation.
I got with doctors together, Igot help and they suggested that
I should get my stomachbasically removed.
It's called a gastric sleeve,so they cut out 90 of your
stomach and you just can eatless and you have to have a
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strict diet and you, and withthat I, lost about 150 pounds.
I would say yeah, and that'sthe way I am now.
Today I'm still not slim, but Ifeel actually pretty fit
compared to back then.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Congratulations.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Well, thank you, but that was a long journey and a
really tough thing and I knew Ihad to get my body shape to be
perceived as a professionalteacher.
But that was my biggest problembecause I mean, 400 pounds, you
cannot, um, you don't, justdon't look um, um, very, um,
credible, you know, in front ofcamera.
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So that's the one thing I did.
And then I did the next thing.
I started to do in German.
Because I'm from Austria, wespeak German in Austria.
I started my German speakingYouTube channel after I learned
how to film.
I did courses on photography, Idid photos on filming, I did
photos on editing.
So I learned all the thingsmyself and I put them on YouTube
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and I saw they received.
Well, back then, still withthat weight I had.
So there, if you look back atmy YouTube channel, my old, my
German YouTube channel, and theolder videos from like six, six,
seven years ago, you would seehow I was, how it looked like,
yeah, so, but they were popular.
They were popular in the German, the German golfing community.
So I kept going, I kept going,I kept going and, yeah, and
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After all the surgery and losingall the weight and after COVID
and all that kind of stuff.
I probably became one of themost, probably one of the most
what do you say, maybeinfluential YouTube channels in
the German speaking countries?
And what do you say, maybeinfluential YouTube channel in
(31:28):
the German speaking countries?
So I'm really well known inGermany, austria and Switzerland
.
And, yeah, back then my videoswere really, really technical.
I was like I was talking aboutwhat, everything, what happened
and whatever.
And when you look at YouTube,you see the retention graphs,
you see when people actually,when they stay on the video and
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when they drop.
And I saw, every time I put ina graph, like a graph in the
video, the retention dropped.
Every time I talked about howthe pros do it, um, the
retention dropped.
Every time I I said, uh,something about, um, a body part
moving uh in a direction whichwas like with, uh, where I said
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a vector or something, the graphdropped.
So I knew, okay, um, either youare known as the guy who's super
smart, you know, and nobody'swatching, or you have to learn a
language that people understandand actually help golfers,
because actually I wanted tohelp golfers, I don't want to
scare them.
You know.
I'd have to give really a hugecredit to my team because back
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then it was like around COVIDwhen COVID started.
I you know as terrible as itwas, but people who didn't have
time back then suddenly had timeto help me, oh yeah, so I have
two great guys helping me sincemany, many years.
One guy is a specialist forMicrosoft.
He's very expert in artificialintelligence, and the other guy
(33:03):
is a, is a, is a manager of ahuge company who, um, who do um,
like um, consulting about howto, yeah, how to build up
companies, e-commerce and thatkind of stuff.
So that's it.
So it is.
These two guys are reallyexperts and.
And one guy is a daniel is aamateur golfer with a basically
(33:27):
no handicap, just loves the gamebut plays really, really bad.
And the other guy actually um,is um, peter, he's um, he was uh
with me to get in the nationalteam.
Actually, when we were young,we were playing together
european championships and thatkind of stuff, and he never
became pro, but we met after allthese years again.
(33:47):
Both these guys basicallystarted helping me when COVID
started to build up my YouTubechannel.
We were discussing things abouthow to build my brand, how to
create content that's digestiblefor the people and people
actually enjoy.
(34:11):
So I was always criticized by myteam and too complicated,
nobody really understands this,nobody cares, and they really
challenged me on every video,every video I made, they
challenged me no, say it easier,do it again.
And actually a typical thing weused to do is we said, okay,
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we'll be having um, we're havinga day where we film a couple of
um YouTube videos, like we didsome batch filming one day, like
six, three days one day.
But you have to come completelyprepared, so because we only
have one hour for every video.
So what I did is I had to writea script, I had to film it on
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my iPhone, then I had to edit iton my iPhone so we get the
feeling how the video is.
Then I uploaded it to my team.
Then I said it's bad, do itagain.
So I did it again.
Then, after a while, I said Isaid okay, guys, what's so bad
about it?
Do this, do this, this, thisdifferently, you know.
And then um, and use this um,use this idea to show the people
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and this and that.
And then we basically, afterlike seven takes in the iphone,
we had a finished version andthat we filmed now with a 4k
camera for proper, properly forthe youtube channel.
So, and that, um, there was.
So I had videos and videoswhere I spent about more than 50
hours creating it, if you puteverything together, just
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because of the amount of time wewere preparing the shoot and
editing process after that also.
So I had really success in theGerman market with my videos and
got really really well known.
And we saw after a while.
We saw, okay, people start,especially since I started the
(35:59):
shorts and Instagram.
My Instagram suddenly blew upbecause I was doing the videos
in English and I saw that peoplewere going over to my German
speaking YouTube channel andthey were looking, watching my
videos with English subtitlesand stuff like that yeah,
actually ruining my retentionbecause they don't stay as
hooked on a video in yourlanguage.
And then I decided, okay,there's so much, there's so much
(36:22):
request of me doinginternational English speaking
videos that I we we starting nowto do my.
I started to do an EnglishYouTube channel where I at the
moment, just upload shots, but Ihave a lot of growth at the
moment there and we are planningto start with English-speaking
(36:42):
YouTube videos this year in myEnglish-speaking channel and
yeah, that's really the goal.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
One of your most popular videos three things PGA
pros do to create effortlesspower.
That's amazing.
It says POV right Point of view.
What gave you that idea for POV?
And when I look at your videos,you strike me as a modern day
John Jacobs.
I look at the videos I like.
(37:11):
Okay, I can see why this guy isso popular, because you can
almost scroll through and say,hey, I've got a very long back
swing, very short back swing Ithink Christophe would have an
answer and boom, there, it isThree minutes, something
bite-sized for the audience.
And then they go back.
Works, doesn't work.
Look for another one.
That's really, really amazing.
(37:33):
And I find, from aninstructor's point of view, that
there is not enough of suchvideos which have technical
depth but easy to understand,like secret source for power,
like who wouldn't want thesecret source for power?
And and what really captures mymy attention when I see your
(37:57):
videos, I see a big guy likeyourself playing with the driver
swinging in like a lasso andthen boom, 300 yards.
Talk a little bit about that.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Well, the thing is, you know, when I started with
the, with the, at some stage Isaid, okay, I want to, I want to
get more.
Well, more, I want to get mynarrow child in the
international market, in theEnglish speaking community,
maybe also in the Asiancommunity, and I thought I had
to go English.
Okay, and suddenly you know,like reels were a big thing,
(38:32):
youtube shorts were a big thing,suddenly, I was used to
producing long-form content andI knew from the YouTube channel
that if you don't give somethingwhich is compelling or like
cooks you to the screen, thepeople will not watch.
You know, and if you spend Ialways said, if I spend all the
(38:54):
time filming, planning, filming,editing, I want at least I want
people to see it at least likethe first few seconds are bad,
or you come with an um a few.
That is very common.
Yeah, then people just say, oh,it's just one of one of the one
, more of the same.
You know, it's just another one, you know.
(39:15):
And and I always said, okay, Ihave any quick dynamic changes,
I need, uh, other views andmaybe a little bit, um little,
sometimes a little bit.
Oh, he's 300 yards or more, butthen again, this is what the PGA
pros do, uh, whatever you know,and and for effortless power.
So I put some hooks with us, um, uh, maybe some very crazy um
(39:39):
um shots, like own shots or likenow with the POV, just to get
the people's attention, and thenreally thinking about, okay,
how can I put this in a?
I got basically one minute,basically for a short.
You know over a thing, but thething is, if you do a short for
one minute, it doesn't, it nevergets viral, it never gets.
(39:59):
So it has to be about 30 to 35,40 seconds maybe the maximum.
So how are you going to put acool message across in 40
seconds?
And so I really challengedmyself day and night, finding
cool ideas, finding visuals,finding crazy drills.
(40:21):
I think I like this idea, thisone with the wrist, like this
movement where I basically wentfrom steep to shallow, unlike
showing just a basic wristmovement.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
Speaking of steep to shallow, I thought another great
video of yours was when youwent through the whole spectrum
of this is steep, this isshallow.
I thought that was veryeducational.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
Thank you.
Yeah, thank you.
I thought this was not outthere.
But just going back to theother thing, I thought, okay, I
have to find a way to beeducating but also entertaining
at the same time.
And so I challenged myself thewhole time how can I be, how can
I do it differently than theother people and in a fun way
(41:11):
that people like to watch it?
And it's not the same the wholetime.
And it was one day I was, I wasactually going to, I was
wanting to buy some sunglassesand I saw the, the mate, the,
the, the, the.
I don't know I want to doa.
I don't know, I want to do some.
I don't want to do any otheradvertisement there, but there's
(41:34):
a company that sells actuallyglasses where you have a
built-in camera and a built-invideo, and I saw it and I talked
to my team and they also said,yeah, I get it, it's a cool idea
.
And then I bought it and then Istarted filming myself actually
playing golf with it, and ithas a beautiful microphone
system as well.
So I don't need any crazyhookup, it's just I put it on
the glasses and I just talk andI do it.
(41:54):
And then, if I wanted to have asecond perspective.
I did a second shot with thisor with the drone and then I
combined the things.
But in the beginning I just dida lot of videos, just only with
the glasses, and it was amazing.
I got, like every video, amillion views, 2 million views,
(42:15):
and the one you were talkingabout with the two release,
which is basically a very simple, not spectacular thing actually
, if you, if you, if you, ifyou're in the golf instruction,
you know there's an unhinging, asubpoena, you know, and there's
threatening of the right arm,you know that it's not like it's
not rocket science, but it wassuch an upset for many people
that I was teaching that andthis is crazy and this is BS and
whatever.
(42:36):
So you've got so much positive,also negative, comments and I
had over 3 million views only onInstagram with that and I
thought, wow, I mean, you know,when you, when you see
something's working nicely andI'm the first guy, obviously,
who did it with the POV, withthe glasses, and yeah, then you
(42:57):
keep on doing and I did a coupleof those and but I didn't want
to continue doing the whole timebecause it's not.
I think at some stage it getsboring.
So I do.
Yeah, I'd like to choose topicswhich are very controversial,
maybe, which are misunderstood.
I think the topic about wrist,wrist mechanics is really a
misunderstood among among hobbygolfers, but also good golfers
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they, they, they.
They talk about feelingssometimes, but not what really
is happening.
And also the topic with turningyour hips and how the hips work
in the golf swing or how youmove your pelvis.
It's massively misunderstoodand I think it can only be
understood if you have actuallyworked with ground reaction or
(43:43):
with force plates and you haveexperience with that as a coach.
I think only then you have aclear understanding of what's
happening.
I mean, I'm not saying that youcannot teach golf without that,
but it definitely helps to geta very clear picture.
Speaker 3 (43:59):
Yeah, I think the better the golfer you teach, the
more detailed the informationneeds to be.
If you're a beginner golfer, itdoesn't really matter what kind
of grip you have, as long as itlooks okay.
Your backswing has to be okayto just play a 24 handicap.
But if you're talking aboutplus two going to a plus four,
(44:20):
that's a different ball gamealtogether.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
That's true.
But I also say, also for thebeginner, also for the normal
golfer, knowing this stuff, atleast knowing this stuff,
doesn't mean that you Because Ialways hear, oh, this guy is not
physically possible to do ityeah, maybe, but I rather have
to write the information as ahandicap 25 than having the
(44:44):
wrong information.
But what's the option?
You know, if I say, oh, this isso tough to do, this release,
I'm teaching there or showingthere, okay, what's the option?
The other option is doing achicken wing and putting in your
arms and hurting yourself.
Is that an option?
Or would I try to do it theright way, maybe fail a little
bit, you know, and you know,like you want to go to the Mars,
(45:05):
but you just make it to themoon is better than staying on
earth, you know.
So, basically, like that, goingbackwards, so.
So I'd rather have people, I'drather have people with the
correct information, maybepresented in a, in a fun way or
in an educational way, which islike engaging for a couple of
(45:27):
seconds, then not havinginformation.
Because that's exactly what Iwanted to do.
I wanted people learn about thegolf game.
I wanted to be the one whoactually tells the whole world
how golf should be or how itcould be.
(45:47):
Of course we know there are manyways to skin a cat, many ways
to swing the golf club.
There are different body types.
Yes, I know this.
But there are things in a golfswing which are universal and we
know from measurements.
There are basically only two,maybe three release styles PGA2
players use.
(46:07):
We know that Basically it's thereflection towards extension
release and the turn-downrelease.
Basically, these are the twomain.
Maybe there's some combinations, but these are the two main
release styles.
There's no.
And if somebody says, oh, youshouldn't extend your lead wrist
after impact, well, there couldbe a feeling of for somebody
(46:29):
for not overextending or doingtoo early.
But but, but we know frommeasurements, basically
everybody's doing it.
You know, um, whether they'redoing it consciously or not, you
know it's happening.
And the same is, um, with thebody rotation.
People talking about, oh, juststraighten your left knee and
you can turn, yeah, but thereare many ways how you can, how
you can straighten your leftknee and turn, you know, and the
(46:51):
one is efficient, one is not,one is the fake turn and one is
the the efficient turn, yeah.
So, um, yeah, this is, this isthe message I want to uh get
across in the world basicallythat modern golf instruction or
like modern, I mean the stuffhas been there.
For I mean, if you look at BenHogan and all the guys back also
(47:12):
in the 50s, 60s, whatever, oreven earlier, they had fantastic
swings back there.
I mean, look at Hogan, look atSnead, look at Bobby Jones, it
doesn't matter, look, they hadgreat golf swings and they were.
I'm sure they were doing thesame things or using the same
forces or the same principles,like modern golfers are using,
(47:36):
you know.
But back then what was the best?
They had, basically, maybe acamera.
A camera so they could do astill picture.
Maybe they could do a series ofpictures and say, okay, this is
how the golf swing should work,but it didn't tell you the
story.
It didn't tell you what youwere doing in the feet, it
didn't tell you how you wereloading your hip joint, it
didn't tell you about how thegrip pressure was.
(47:57):
And nowadays, with theinstruction we have on all the
measurements and smart peopleand biomechanics and doctors and
everybody like helping the game, nowadays we can actually give
a very clear picture of what'shappening in a golf swing.
And some things are universaland some things are style, you
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know, and if you have high handsor low hands, you know these
are styles, but still the wristwill work the same for most
players.
Most players will load the ballof the foot.
Great players load the ball ofthe foot, of the lead foot, in
the early transition.
That's basically universal.
You will see, every greatplayer will have the pressure on
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the lead side before left armhits parallel in the downswing.
I mean, these are things maybethere's one there who doesn't
but I would say we're prettysafe.
These are things we see ingreat golf swings.
I don't know if you guys agree,but that's at least what I think
.
And we have this knowledgenowadays.
(48:59):
We have it, we have it.
And the only thing that'sstopping us is the message is
not there.
People say, oh, don't sway inthe backswing, don't sway.
If you don't sway in the earlybackswing you would have a
problem with pressure shift inthe second part.
So people are trying to staycentered with their pelvis in
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the start, don't move the pelvis, don't sway.
And then suddenly the clubmoves away and then they sway
anyway, because it's the way howground reaction works.
So everybody looks at me when Isay you have to sway in the
golf swing.
I mean sway sounds verynegative, but basically, what is
(49:42):
a sway?
A sway is a lateral movementtowards the target or away from
the target.
Yeah, and it happens in everygolf swing and it's maybe not
huge but it's there, you know,and there are forces that
produce doing that, or youproduce forces to do that.
You know, and there areconsequences because of that,
how your body and how everythingorganizes.
(50:03):
And then you're going to beconsistent.
And if you want to beconsistent, you have have a
efficient body movement andpressure shifts and wrist
movements and structure and allthat kind of stuff.
I'm sorry and I don't, I don't.
And then every time somebodysays, okay, but John Diddy
swings it, swings it long, soyeah, but he gets his structure,
structure, his pressures andeverything organized again, you
(50:24):
know.
So they're always outliers, butthey're still doing the
universal stuff.
So, um, yeah, this is themessage I want to get.
I want to get across um to thepeople and in a fun way,
educational way, and my team andI were really, especially last
week, we were thinking a lot ofthe formats, how, how we're
going to, what we're going to dofor the YouTube channel and so,
(50:46):
um, if you guys want tosubscribe at Bowsick golf it's
called, um, feel free tosomething coming up very soon.
And um, yeah, so yeah, and it'sfun, it's fun.
I love content creation.
I mean, I've been doing it formany years.
Um, I got a whole notebook inmy iPhone like ideas I want to
(51:07):
film.
I had a crazy idea last nightagain Again, what nobody has
seen before.
So I'm going to fool aroundtomorrow with some, with some
trial.
We're going to try some shootsand we're not going to publish
it yet, but I have some coolideas.
I want to try it If I can filmit the way I want to.
So it's always somethinghappening, always something
(51:31):
happening.
I like, I love ideas.
I love I read every comment.
I read every comment.
I don't answer every commentbecause it's too many, but I
read every comment because Iwant to know what people think.
I read the comments of othercontent creators, what people
think.
I want to understand how thepeople, the people think, what
they believe.
I get ideas from readingcomments.
(51:51):
I get ideas from talking topeople you know, and sometimes
you just see funny stuff and youthink that's cool.
I want to do this, or you seesomebody doing something really
cool and you think that's socool, but I want to do it better
than him, so I think that'sthat's.
That's how it how it works.
I mean, if you look like thisname, check out the wrapping,
(52:12):
the wrapping golf pro.
Oh yeah, he's got his own brand.
Speaker 3 (52:17):
Right yeah, he's got his own brand, he's from
California.
Speaker 2 (52:19):
I think I think he's awesome.
He's the he.
He does very, very good videos,very good content, very clever,
and he sings.
You know who would sing?
Who would rap?
I think that's brilliant.
Yeah, that's absolutelybrilliant.
This is, I think, how it shouldbe, you know.
Speaker 3 (52:36):
Yeah, exactly, you guys are more about educating,
entertaining.
It's not so much about oh lookhow smart I am, but it's more
about if you do this, you enjoythe game better.
And that's what it really isall about.
How can we get more people intothe game of golf?
Exactly so what programs areplanned for your
(53:02):
English-speaking fans?
Speaker 2 (53:06):
Programs.
Well, the one thing is Istarted doing now my online
courses because I had so many.
I'm really really busy in myhome course and driving around
giving courses Aimpoint coursesand my other courses, driver
courses and whatever in allAustria and Germany and all
(53:27):
these countries, so I'm reallybusy during the summer, but I
really enjoy also doing onlinetraining.
So I found out in the winter.
It's really nice to have peoplefrom different countries
working on the golf game with me.
So I started with Sneed app acouple of months ago, started
doing some online training and Iwill probably try to get more
(53:51):
and more people giving them thepossibility to work with me
online.
So if you go to the Sneed app,download Sneed app and you can
find me there.
This is something I want to domore from now on.
And the second thing isbuilding up the program.
We're building up the YouTubechannel now to getting the
knowledge, the people knowing meactually, and then we will
(54:15):
start to film content like paycontent, of course, but very
structured pay content thatpeople basically can learn golf
in a very simple way.
Let's put it this way we'reworking on programs and ways how
(54:35):
to combine all this to gatherall this information there is
out there, this complicatedinformation into a really easy
way to do it.
You know, this is somethingwe're really working on now, I
would say.
So the main things I developedlike a golf swing method.
(54:57):
I did a video on YouTube aboutthat in the German speaking
channel.
It kind of translated intoEnglish but it would be
something like the foolproofgolf swing.
So basically, I had the idea.
I had the idea one day with myteam.
Imagine the situation You'relike a guy who hasn't played
golf, maybe like a couple ofyears ago, but you've got family
(55:19):
, you have a family, you've gotkids, you're working a lot,
haven't played golf for 10 or 15years.
Sunday, your boss says, hey,listen, I got this guy coming in
on Sunday, this businesspartner, we have to play golf
with him.
You haven't played golf for 15years, you know.
So you go oh, my God, I haven'tplayed golf, I don't know how
to hold a club, I don't know howto swing.
We did a seven or eight month umproject for the german youtube
(55:44):
channel where we basically Ibasically um tried to find a
method, um that a person likethat.
It's more like a, it's likemore like a, like this idea of
the person who doesn't practicea lot, basically, or can't
practice a lot.
How can I get him, within a 10minute video, to actually not
(56:07):
suck completely when he'splaying with the boss?
You know, and um, there's areally smart things, uh, did.
They're like uh, um overhinging the wrists and and
getting a no hinge, and then forthat they have a flexed wrist
in the top and I get the setupin a good position already,
which is closer to a impactposition than, uh, maybe a
(56:27):
classical um setup and and youknow, and and and looking at two
or three key elements in thegolf swing which are important,
and then it's one of my mostpopular videos in the german
speaking countries.
We were playing around with theidea of maybe getting that idea
to the US market and theinternational market.
(56:49):
There are many things, manyideas we have.
Yeah, I'm really lookingforward to that.
It's cool.
Speaker 3 (56:58):
We look forward to that and our listeners can find
you again at Balsat Golf.
Speaker 2 (57:03):
Yeah, the YouTube channel is Balsat Golf and our
listeners can find you again atBalsak Golf.
Yeah, the YouTube channel isBalsak Golf and my Instagram is
at Christoph underscore Balsak.
I think you might have shownotes.
Maybe we can put them in there.
Speaker 3 (57:15):
We will add it there.
Speaker 2 (57:17):
Yeah, thank you.
Thank you, I'm also on TikTok.
You guys were close of losingTikTok in America, thank you.
And there is also, I'm also ontiktok.
You guys were close of losingtiktok in america, but I
actually am also there atchristoph balzic.
So, yeah, but, um, I got this,I like this.
Three channels and, um, yeah,so I'm trying to upload like
(57:39):
three or four shorts every weekand, and in the future, more, a
couple more other things.
Yeah, really, it's good, it'sgood fun, you know it's um, it's
also good exercise for thecoaching, because you, because
you um, try to be easy,understanding, you try to be
well received, you try to beengaging and that also, when
(58:00):
people come to me for physicallessons, they can really feel
that.
And what I started to do alsois I started to give Every time
somebody comes for a lesson.
You would think this is logical, but not when you actually do
this.
You do a recap of the lessonwith the student with the iPhone
, say, come for the iPhone.
(58:21):
I talk to you about two orthree key pointers, what you
should do, and that's it.
What I started to do now is Ialso started to film it from my
point of view.
So I did a point of view videofor the student that they see
how it should look like for themwhen they do their golf swing,
and I send it to them and theyabsolutely love it.
So that's that's something Ialso do and and I think, um,
(58:45):
also, I think all golfprofessionals should really have
a thought process about howthey deliver the message to
their students and how they makesure that they keep on doing it
after you, after they had yourlesson, because I have the
feeling sometimes, when somebodyjumps in the car and leaves me,
(59:05):
when they're 10 miles away frommy place, they forgot 70% of
what I said and at the momentyou know, at the moment they're
studying the lesson everythingis so clear, everything is so
yeah, finally, and then they'reat home and they cannot even
remember that they saw me thatday, you know sometimes.
So I really make sure that theinformation I give them um, that
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they, um, that they, uh, thatthey, that it comes across and
they can, they can actually findit, find the feeling again for
that on their own, and what Ialso offer many times is that
they send me a video of theirswing after 10 days or after
seven days, after they have thefeeling they want to show it to
me, because when they want toshow it to me they really try
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hard.
You know that's a fun one,because when people try to send
you a golf swing to recheck,basically after seven to 10 days
, they don't send you a shitswing Because actually the first
time in their life they look atthis swing.
How many people actually readgolf swing?
I don't know how that is inSingapore, in the US, but in my
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area nobody looks at this golfswing and they're really
surprised that's what they'redoing.
But if they have to send me agolf swing, then they find they
look looking at the golf swingand say I'm doing this again.
He said I should not be doingthis, you know.
And then he, and then he'sactually start practicing until
they have a golf swing they cansend to me and that's that.
I think that's a good one.
That's a good one, you know.
(01:00:32):
So motivating people to sendthe golf swing because they have
to watch the golf swing, thatthat teaches them to get more
feedback from video and actuallyworking on the golf swing, that
that teaches them to get morefeedback from video and actually
working on the golf swing yeahthank you.
Speaker 3 (01:00:47):
Thank you so much, uh , for your time today, christoph
.
That was a lot to unpack forour listeners, and I'm sure
they'll find a lot of benefit inlistening to this podcast as
well as watching your socialmedia content.
I can't thank you enough foryour time today, christoph.
Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
Thank you so much, justin, thank you so much Jesse.
I really appreciate it and,yeah, all the best to you guys.
Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
Thank, you, Christoph .
Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
Yeah, and I definitely will be also
following your, your podcast.
Yeah, thanks.
Speaker 3 (01:01:16):
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Hello, this is Jesse Perryman of the Fly Hunters Golf
Podcast.
Welcome back after a little bitof a break.
My wife and I went to Europefor about three weeks and took a
little time off, so welcomeback.
Welcome to summer.
Golf season is here, y'all.
Hopefully, you did your duediligence in the offseason and
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got ahead of it.
You're coming out ready to rolland you listen to plenty of my
podcasts and with me and Justinand whoever else to help you get
to where you want to go in thisgame.
Well, this week we haveChristoph Bausack.
Christopher Chris is a Europeantour coach, helps the guys over
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there on the DP World Tour andover on the other side of the
pond from us in the US.
He is located in Austria.
It's a great conversation.
We talk about his methodology,we talk about what he's overcome
in his personal life and justsome of the things in the game.
(01:07):
It's just cool, real casualconversation, super fun, but I'm
sure you're going to getsomething out of it.
You can find ChristophChristopher easily on Instagram.
I'm going to make sure to puthis links on the show notes, but
since we're here, it'sChristoph.
It's C-R-I-S-T-O-P-H.
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Underscore Bausek B-A-U-S-E-K.
For those who are on Instagram.
And we got the US Open coming upthis week.
I'm sure Scotty's pretty mucheveryone's favorite and we'll
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probably do a little bit of a USOpen discussion afterwards.
So once again, please rememberto rate, review and subscribe.
And a shout out once again toMizuno Golf and out once again
to Mizuno Golf and Jumbo MaxGrips for their strong support
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of the show, and I hope everyoneis having a great week and we
will talk soon.
Cheers, folks.
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Hello and welcome to anotheredition of the Flag Hunters Golf
Podcast.
My name is Jesse Perryman.
I am your host, along with myco-host, justin Tang, teacher
extraordinaire, my brother fromanother mother in Singapore.
I am currently in Californiaright now, where it's sunny,
perfect, and our guest today isChristophe Bausik.
(02:51):
Christophe, welcome, palAppreciate you coming on.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Thanks, Justin.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Hey, thanks, christophe.
So Jesse and I are on a missionto interview really smart
coaches who also who, besidesbeing technically brilliant,
also understand the softer sideof coaching the game.
You obviously have a deeptechnical background expertise,
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but that doesn't really comeacross as overbearing on your
YouTube and Instagram videos.
Before we get into yourcoaching philosophy, could you
share with our listeners?
How did you get started in golf?
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Well, I started golf at a very young age.
I was like probably three yearsold.
My dad was really into golf andwe had a little house next to
the golf course.
We lived about 40 minutes awayfrom the golf course and we had
like a little holiday housethere.
And when I was a kid, myparents went there in the
(03:58):
weekends and played golf there,and actually my brother and I we
just played in the forest nextto the golf course and we're
looking for golf balls.
You know, just like what you doas a kid.
Yeah, like when I was like 11,12, 13-ish, I started to have
more intense training,children's training, and yeah,
(04:18):
and one day at this my dad askedhey, do you want to play the
Austrian under-14 championships?
I was like 13 years old backthen.
I said, yeah, of course I wantto play.
I was like a handicap 13 backthen, with 13 years, and I
thought it was pretty good.
I mean, nowadays it was notgood, but I thought it was
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pretty good and I thought itwould do really well.
And actually in that tournamentI was second to last and I was
so angry that I was so angrythat I told my dad listen.
When we went home I said listen, dad, next year I'm going to
win this tournament.
And I really really startedpracticing then from that moment
on.
That was late 1990, early 1991.
(05:02):
I'm 47 years now as we arerecording this and um.
So I got really motivated andactually the year after that I I
finished second, I finishedsecond yeah, I was angry again
yeah, I was angry again but um,but I really developed as a
player back then when I was like14, 15 years old and I got
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pretty good really fast.
And when I was like 17 yearsold, I was the number one in
Austria in the amateur rankingsand I had the also in Europe.
I was one of the best players.
I was like, you know, I wasplaying with the boys like
Sergio Garcia and other guyslike Henrik Stenson and all
these boys you know, they weremy generation and I played in
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the European Juniors Continentteam back then, which was like
the Ryder Cup for Europe, wherethe continent of Europe plays
against Great Britain andIreland.
And yeah, and I was like,probably when I turned pro, when
I was like 20, I was one of thebest amateurs in Europe and I
actually thought, okay, I mighthave a nice chance to make a
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tour card and play on theEuropean tour back then and I
have a career, you know, flyingwith private jets and that kind
of stuff.
Didn't happen, unfortunatelyDidn't happen.
I'm spoiling this, but um, yeah, but it was really interesting.
I had a nice journey there asan amateur and I played for six
years in europe, like like thethird level tour was like the
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alps tour.
I don't know if you guys arefamiliar with that, but that's
like the third level tour.
It's like the the alps tour.
I don't know if you guys arefamiliar with that, but that's
like the third level tour ineurope yeah, like the corn fairy
of the us not even the cornfairy, it's the, it's the, it's
the hooters tour of the whateverthat still exists, I don't know
.
But, um, but it was like a thirdlevel tour and and played it
(07:03):
and also like the challenge tour, which is probably the
equivalent to the Coen Ferrytour.
Yeah, but I just wasn't goodenough, to be honest.
To be honest, my long game wasreally sucking.
To be honest, I mean I wasn'tthat long.
I mean I was at okay length,but not like crazy long, and I
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was hooking the ball and likehitting two to three snap hooks
every round and it was reallytough to, you know, compete in
professional golf with thatdriving, driving the way I was
doing back then.
And the short game was reallygood.
My putting was awesome.
I was really known for being aa king with that.
(07:48):
But, uh, my long day was justsucking and actually back then
in the yeah, probably with likeeight late 90s, there was nobody
really there who understoodanything about the golf swing,
especially at the elite level.
So, yeah, long story short, Ifailed and I was so pissed off
(08:18):
about failing that I dideverything to find out what went
wrong.
Yeah, that's how I basicallystarted my journey.
Yeah and yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
So you didn't make it on tour as a player, but you
certainly have made it as a tourcoach.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Yes, absolutely.
It was funny because, like lastyear, I was here at the Classic
coaching my protege, lucasNemetz, and he was playing there
and I was there in the players'lounge looking down at the
driving range where Michael Roywas running next to me, adam
Scott was running there and Ilooked at the nice sushi they
had there in the bar and I saidin the players' lounge and I
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said, okay, now you're therewhere you always wanted to be,
but just as a coach, not as aplayer.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
I really enjoyed that .
So so maybe no, no private jets, but certainly private cards,
yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
But the thing is, the thing is, um, just in back back
then when I failed um, I did mypga training, the pga of
austria training, and um, and Irecognized very fast this is not
the whole story.
I mean this this was basicstuff.
You know what you learn as agolf teacher, like how to do um,
beginners courses and, uh,juniors programs and that kind
(09:30):
of stuff, but um, basictechnical stuff.
But there was.
I knew there was much more andI wanted to find out what went
wrong with my goal.
Why did I suck so much?
And, to be honest, I was like 26years old back then and I
thought, okay, if you do yourpga training, you know, earn
some money.
If you're in your late 20s,early 30s, you still can play
(09:53):
competitive golf and maybe goback to two again.
So I thought, okay, I could tryto become a better version
maybe of myself, and which Iobviously never did.
But um, but the cool thing wasI got in touch.
That must have been like in thelate, I don't know 2007, 2008
or something.
(10:13):
I got in touch first time withtpi.
Greg rose was playing somethinglike that.
Yeah, late, late 2007.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
8 yeah, that that's when they really kick-started
the program and it coincidedwith the time where TrackMan
first came out.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Yeah, but I remember I was there at the seminar in
Holland and met Greg Rose thefirst time and it was like a
level one TPI and I heard thefirst time in my life about the
body swing connection.
And I heard the first time inmy life about the body swing
connection and there was a guyfrom Holland there who had an
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AMM 3D or 6D system with the 12sensor system.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Michael Voss.
Pardon, was it a PGAprofessional by the name of
Michael Vail vos?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
no, it was not because, no, no, no, I forgot
the name.
To be honest, maybe I I canrecall it, but I forgot it.
But the thing was they offeredus back in the seminar hey guys,
you can have a 3d analysis ofyour, of the golf swing.
And that was the first time Ireally saw something about what
is a kinematic sequence, what is, um, how the body parts move
that you were actually able tomove.
That I heard first time in mylife about efficiency.
(11:27):
So I I said please, guys, canyou um, take a, um a caption of
my golf swing?
Speaker 3 (11:34):
thinking back then um , you still had a chance how
good this is, how efficient.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
I was just pure.
I was so unlucky not to make itlike that kind of stuff.
And basically, uh, they told mestuff like listen, your hip
speed, if you were on the touryou would have the by far the
slowest hip speed on tour.
You have the flattest hip turnon tour.
If you were on the tour, yoursequence is not good.
(12:01):
And uh, yeah, and basically itwas not as good as I thought it
was, to be honest, and thatreally that really made me angry
back then.
So, if you can imagine so, andI thought, oh, but it was cool
in one way because I thought,hey, finally I found something
(12:21):
where somebody said you're notgood, because I always heard
you're good, you're good whenyou were just, you're just at a
bad mental state of mind or youwere just lazy or whatever,
which I said I wasn't, but I,but I just, to be honest, my
swing wasn't good enough backthen and I had the wrong idea
about ball flight loss.
(12:42):
I had the wrong idea aboutabout the body should be moving
in the golf swing and I had thewrong idea about power
production and that kind ofstuff.
So I went on and actuallystarted trying to find
everything I could find about 3D, which was really, really tough
back then in 2008, 2009, 2010.
(13:04):
And then I got my first trackman.
I remember in Austria, all theother pros were looking at me
like I'm an alien.
You know what's going on.
Why are you buying this stupidstuff here?
You know, this is a sportsfield, not about science.
You know, and I was gettingvery science-y, yeah and yeah, I
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hooked up with a synolink withchris welsh in the synonyms.
There must have been I don'tknow 2010 it's a long time ago.
I can't believe this.
Yes, indeed yeah, and chrishelped me get some basic
knowledge about this stuff.
But the the problem I had withSinoLink back then was they
basically you could send in yourswing and there was like a 3D
cube and you could.
You had to film it from twoangles and you send it to the
company and they would do a 3Danalysis of it.
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And it took a couple of daysuntil you had it and I thought,
hey, I need, I need a 3Danalysis in my golf lessons
because I was teaching.
Of course I I need a 3Danalysis in my golf lessons
because I was teaching.
Of course I need the 3Danalysis in a minute, not after
one week.
The client is gone after oneweek.
So I bought myself an EMM 60walkabout system, which is like
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a three sensor system, and Ibasically started everything I
could about 3D graphs, about notonly the ones I was using but
every graph.
I mean, I talked to everybodywho was like a little bit
involved in that.
Back then I met also JohnGraham.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Aimpoint.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Yeah, john got me into Aimpoint and John had a
fantastic blog back then and itwas a very critical thinker and
I really enjoyed his um yeah, itwas maybe a little bit of
mentoring even there, because hewas like he was like, uh,
asking me critical questions andand stuff that I start thinking
, you know, and and I also hadJohn over in Austria a couple
(14:59):
times, yeah, so I started withAimpoint, so everything built up
.
You know, I had the 3d system, Ihad the aimpoint, I had
trackman, I was really, I wouldsay, ahead of everybody in my
area, in austria at least, andum, and I was measuring
everybody, I was measuringprofessionals, I was measuring
elite players, junior golfers,beginners, basically everybody
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was on 3D.
So I learned very quickly whatthe best players do and what the
worst players do.
Let's put it this way, from akinematic standpoint, you know,
from how the body moves, abouthow the positions of the joints,
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the angles and how everythingmoves in 3d space.
So I mean I'm actually like forprobably for 10 years, in every
lesson I measured 3d.
I mean I, I see a golf swingand I knew, you know, I mean you
guys probably were working withtrackman.
You know, when you got thetrackmen you were guessing maybe
(16:06):
, okay, what's the path orwhat's the attacking, or
something like that.
I think we all did that, didn'twe?
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Yeah, the funny thing is this right, I think you can
be a human trackman, but youcannot be a human AMM, human
sports box, or, for that matter,human GR, a human swing
catalyst.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
No, but if you work a lot with those things, you see
patterns, or you see movementpatterns where you think, okay,
this could be happening or thiscould be the way it would be
representing as a graph, and Idid like little games with
myself.
Okay, what do I think?
What do I think is thekinematic sequence on this guy?
What do I think is the, the pbsband on this guy?
Does he, how much, does he sidebend?
You know this.
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I did all this, like like you dowith the track man.
You say, oh, I think he's sixdown two degrees from the
outside.
I was doing the same with 3d.
Of course you, of course youdon't get it 100, but I was
pretty good after a while.
So, so, yes, but the biggestproblem, justin, was I.
Now you've got all this data,you can know everything that's
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happening, but how do you changeit?
How do you apply it in yourteaching?
And there has been a time in myteaching career where I was
maybe what should I say?
Maybe too complicated, maybe,or maybe too nerdy, maybe.
So I had to learn how to getsimpler, how to get the message
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across much, much simpler.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Yeah, and that's, and that's the the my next question
you've got all this technicalbackground, technical knowledge
and a lot of coaches are thesame, but they can't seem to
apply.
But you realize very early onthat you needed to address the
person in front of you.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Exactly.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
So who were your coaching influences from the
point of communicating thistechnical information in easy to
understand lessons?
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Well, so the question is how I started to to
basically um, applying it in aneasy way.
Yep, the thing is, um, therewere, there were the two things.
Um, of course, I I kept ondoing educations, um, with like
with young ho kwon and uh, withmike adams and, and obviously
with Smart2Move and all the guys.
(18:43):
I've got my 3D place.
And one thing was like when Istarted to visit Mike Adams, I
have to say I like the way howhe put people into categories,
basically, or is he a front Soon?
Speaker 3 (19:00):
launch Glenn.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Yeah, whatever you know, and you can think about it
what you want.
But I think it's a brilliantway to communicate with people.
You say, okay, listen, you'rethis and you're not.
That you know.
So you can give a very clearpath on what you want to achieve
with the student, becausesometimes, because the thing I
was struggling with in the,let's say, in the 2011, 12, I
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had all this knowledge but Isaid, okay, I want to try this
and I want to do this and, as wesee what fits better for you,
blah, blah, blah.
But it got so complicated forthe students, sometimes also for
the good players I was workingwith that.
At the end of the day, Ithought, okay, I don't have a
clear system, a clear picture ofwhat I'm actually doing.
(19:48):
I'm just like fixing things,you know, and I liked it a lot,
that approach from Mike Adams alot.
That helped me really a lot toget the idea of getting
everything clear in my mind, ofwhat I want to achieve.
And I still enjoy actuallyscreening people.
(20:08):
You know and I'm not sayingthat this is something I say
it's, it has to be the way, butI would I like to do screening
just to see what, what you know,what it says and what is what
you would expect and stuff likethat.
It's a.
It's a very good screening anda very good method.
I would say and I spent timewith Scott Cox I have to say
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Scott, I have to give reallycredit to Scott.
Scott has a very similar way ofthinking about the golf swing
that I always did.
What I really enjoyed aboutScott was that he said you have
this different pattern instead.
Of.
What I really enjoyed aboutScott was Kaukse was that he
said you know you have thisdifferent patterns the elephant
trunk pattern, you have the, youhave the Planar mechanics and
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non-planar mechanics.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Exactly, that was very interesting.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Yeah, very interesting, and the way he was
thinking about the golf swing,you know, and also there was
like a structure to the wholething and that's what I, that's
what I, that's how I started tothink about my own structure,
about how I want to be as acoach.
And it's maybe a blend of acouple of people, also young,
who, um and and young, who wasalso very technical in the
beginning, uh, with his seminars, and he got more and more into
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application recently, I wouldsay.
And so it's a couple of guys, Iwould say, who have inspired me
to become a teacher.
That's more easier, or maybetrying to look about what's
happening.
And I was a tour player myselfand I know, hey, listen, in the
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end of the day, on the drivingrange, you can think about a
thousand things if you want, youknow, but the problem is you're
standing on the golf course onthe second day before the cut.
It's a 50 miles per hour galeblowing in your face.
You are just holding to theclub that you don't lose it
because it's raining.
You don't think about where youput the pressure on your trail
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foot in the whatever you know,and what you do with your wrist.
You don't do that.
You just don't do that, okay.
So so there's, so it has to be.
In the end of the day, you needcues or very simple ideas you
can do under a stress situation,and that's what I really try to
do with my elite players.
That I find are like a way thatthey, um, maybe one swing idea
(22:33):
and maybe, but work on multiplethings the same time.
In training I I have a a littlelike a, a training system.
I like to call it cubic five,like it's a, five exercises.
I like to work out with theplayers five exercises they do
five times a week for fiveminutes, so it's 25 minutes,
(22:53):
maybe the pause, it's maybeclose to half an hour, five
times a week and it's like, andI it's like I keep one space for
grip and set that, one for theearly backswing, one for the
second part of the backswing,one for the follow-through or
the downswing thoughts, and onefor ground reaction.
And then I play around, I givethem the drills, this drill for
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this, this drill for this, thisdrill for this, and they just do
it five times a week for fiveminutes, you know, and and they
get the reps in, but one of them, one of those feelings will
work really nicely in the golfcourse.
As a simple thought maybe youknow, and this is the one I want
them to play with, but whenthey go back practicing, they do
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these exercises again, so itbecomes second nature after a
while, it becomes very normalfor them and I've been very
successful, um, working withplayers and changing the golf
swings, and also for, like,players who are playing golf for
many, many, many, many years,because you know we are, we are
stubborn, we have, we, we played, we played for so many years
(23:57):
where you know you, look at you,look at your swing 10 years ago
, it looks the same like, uh,like 20 years ago.
You know it always looks liketoday.
It just maybe you got older andstiff, but that's, that's all
but but, um, but, um, I canactually see my own swing.
I had a huge change the lastyears just because I understood
what I was doing and I was alsodoing my exercises.
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I was doing training with, with, with cogs, you know and also
online and and, and he inspiredme a lot of doing online
training myself.
I'm offering also onlinetraining now via the Sneed app
and it's also a lot of fun doingonline stuff, especially in the
winter in Austria when it'sreally really really cold.
(24:40):
Yeah, but basically with theinfluence of those people and
with about my playing background, I would say I developed quite
a nice coaching style and a wayhow to help players improve.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
Your coaching style is very well received on social
media, so how do you get yourideas for your social media
videos and maybe from therecould you talk a little bit
about your greatest hits?
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Okay, so maybe I'll start with social media like
this way In 2018, 17, I was atum, who had a big, big online
business with um online courses,setting his film, pre-filling
(25:52):
his early courses and sellingthem online.
And he and he I talked to himfor about two or three hours and
he told me how he did it, andum, how he was doing free
content and getting peopleknowing him, and then suddenly
putting a paywall in front ofthe people and say, okay, now
buy my products, basically.
So I thought that was afantastic idea.
(26:15):
I love the idea because Ithought, you know, when you are
teaching golf, you only canserve one client at a time, or
maybe, if you have a course,maybe four or five, six people,
you know.
But I always had the goal Iwanted to put my knowledge into
so many people's heads that Ican really have an impact on the
whole world with my teaching.
Basically, maybe, uh, maybe.
(26:37):
It was like I was obsessed withthis idea.
I wanted to get my knowledgeout there.
I was so angry, but peopledidn't know about the d-plane,
that people didn't know abouthow the body works in the golf
swing.
I heard all this stupid advice,you know, and I wanted to get
it out, the message out, so Idecided, okay, that's what I
want to do.
I want to create content forfree and I want to get online
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courses out and I want to have adigital solution that people
all over the world can work withme.
Somebody who's in Australia canwork with me in Austria.
I think that's the way itshould be and the modern
approach of teaching golf.
You're not stuck to yourprofessional at home.
You can't get taught by anybodyin the whole world.
(27:20):
That's the nice thing aboutthose iPhones we have here and
about all the technology comingout.
So I decided to do a YouTubechannel in 2017.
I had no idea how to switch on acamera.
I didn't know how to film.
I didn't know how to edit.
I didn't know how to talk infront of a camera.
(27:42):
Plus, there was another problem.
Um, maybe people who know mefor a while on social media they
are maybe aware of this, but Ihad a massive, massive obesity
problem.
I was really really, reallyheavy, and I'm talking about.
I was close to four over 400pounds.
I mean, I was like 400 poundsof body weight.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
How tall, are you christoph?
Speaker 2 (28:05):
um, uh, what would that be like?
Six foot three or something, so187, I think, centimeters, um,
so, so I was really reallymassively heavy and I didn't
look good in front of a cameraand I couldn't hardly breathe
anymore because I was so fat,you know, and um, it was a
consequence, consequence of acouple of things that got me in
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this situation.
You know, in the beginning,when you get really, really
obese, you think, okay, you'rean idiot, you just don't have
discipline, but actually it's adisease, like you know, like
it's an eating disorderbasically, and it's an eating
disorder basically, yeah, and um, it's a, it's a problem.
And I got, uh, I got in asituation where I I was probably
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not far away of dying and I wasin a situation of not being
received well, in front ofpeople, in front of a camera,
but I was standing in front ofthe camera anyway and did this
stuff, you know, and I got thejokes or look at this fatty pool
, you know, and whatever,whatever, and he's giving all
his golf tips and he can't evenbreathe, you know, um, which I
didn't bother that much becauseI know they're right, but, um, I
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did a, but then I did a major,major um um thing in my life.
I I had a operation.
I got with doctors together, Igot help and they suggested that
I should get my stomachbasically removed.
It's called a gastric sleeve,so they cut out 90 of your
stomach and you just can eatless and you have to have a
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strict diet and you, and withthat I, lost about 150 pounds.
I would say yeah, and that'sthe way I am now.
Today I'm still not slim, but Ifeel actually pretty fit
compared to back then.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Congratulations.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Well, thank you, but that was a long journey and a
really tough thing and I knew Ihad to get my body shape to be
perceived as a professionalteacher.
But that was my biggest problembecause I mean, 400 pounds, you
cannot, um, you don't, justdon't look um, um, very, um,
credible, you know, in front ofcamera.
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So that's the one thing I did.
And then I did the next thing.
I started to do in German.
Because I'm from Austria, wespeak German in Austria.
I started my German speakingYouTube channel after I learned
how to film.
I did courses on photography, Idid photos on filming, I did
photos on editing.
So I learned all the thingsmyself and I put them on YouTube
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and I saw they received.
Well, back then, still withthat weight I had.
So there, if you look back atmy YouTube channel, my old, my
German YouTube channel, and theolder videos from like six, six,
seven years ago, you would seehow I was, how it looked like,
yeah, so, but they were popular.
They were popular in the German, the German golfing community.
So I kept going, I kept going,I kept going and, yeah, and
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After all the surgery and losingall the weight and after COVID
and all that kind of stuff.
I probably became one of themost, probably one of the most
what do you say, maybeinfluential YouTube channels in
the German speaking countries?
And what do you say, maybeinfluential YouTube channel in
(31:28):
the German speaking countries?
So I'm really well known inGermany, austria and Switzerland
.
And, yeah, back then my videoswere really, really technical.
I was like I was talking aboutwhat, everything, what happened
and whatever.
And when you look at YouTube,you see the retention graphs,
you see when people actually,when they stay on the video and
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when they drop.
And I saw, every time I put ina graph, like a graph in the
video, the retention dropped.
Every time I talked about howthe pros do it, um, the
retention dropped.
Every time I I said, uh,something about, um, a body part
moving uh in a direction whichwas like with, uh, where I said
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a vector or something, the graphdropped.
So I knew, okay, um, either youare known as the guy who's super
smart, you know, and nobody'swatching, or you have to learn a
language that people understandand actually help golfers,
because actually I wanted tohelp golfers, I don't want to
scare them.
You know.
I'd have to give really a hugecredit to my team because back
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then it was like around COVIDwhen COVID started.
I you know as terrible as itwas, but people who didn't have
time back then suddenly had timeto help me, oh yeah, so I have
two great guys helping me sincemany, many years.
One guy is a specialist forMicrosoft.
He's very expert in artificialintelligence, and the other guy
(33:03):
is a, is a, is a manager of ahuge company who, um, who do um,
like um, consulting about howto, yeah, how to build up
companies, e-commerce and thatkind of stuff.
So that's it.
So it is.
These two guys are reallyexperts and.
And one guy is a daniel is aamateur golfer with a basically
(33:27):
no handicap, just loves the gamebut plays really, really bad.
And the other guy actually um,is um, peter, he's um, he was uh
with me to get in the nationalteam.
Actually, when we were young,we were playing together
european championships and thatkind of stuff, and he never
became pro, but we met after allthese years again.
(33:47):
Both these guys basicallystarted helping me when COVID
started to build up my YouTubechannel.
We were discussing things abouthow to build my brand, how to
create content that's digestiblefor the people and people
actually enjoy.
(34:11):
So I was always criticized by myteam and too complicated,
nobody really understands this,nobody cares, and they really
challenged me on every video,every video I made, they
challenged me no, say it easier,do it again.
And actually a typical thing weused to do is we said, okay,
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we'll be having um, we're havinga day where we film a couple of
um YouTube videos, like we didsome batch filming one day, like
six, three days one day.
But you have to come completelyprepared, so because we only
have one hour for every video.
So what I did is I had to writea script, I had to film it on
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my iPhone, then I had to edit iton my iPhone so we get the
feeling how the video is.
Then I uploaded it to my team.
Then I said it's bad, do itagain.
So I did it again.
Then, after a while, I said Isaid okay, guys, what's so bad
about it?
Do this, do this, this, thisdifferently, you know.
And then um, and use this um,use this idea to show the people
(35:13):
and this and that.
And then we basically, afterlike seven takes in the iphone,
we had a finished version andthat we filmed now with a 4k
camera for proper, properly forthe youtube channel.
So, and that, um, there was.
So I had videos and videoswhere I spent about more than 50
hours creating it, if you puteverything together, just
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because of the amount of time wewere preparing the shoot and
editing process after that also.
So I had really success in theGerman market with my videos and
got really really well known.
And we saw after a while.
We saw, okay, people start,especially since I started the
(35:59):
shorts and Instagram.
My Instagram suddenly blew upbecause I was doing the videos
in English and I saw that peoplewere going over to my German
speaking YouTube channel andthey were looking, watching my
videos with English subtitlesand stuff like that yeah,
actually ruining my retentionbecause they don't stay as
hooked on a video in yourlanguage.
And then I decided, okay,there's so much, there's so much
(36:22):
request of me doinginternational English speaking
videos that I we we starting nowto do my.
I started to do an EnglishYouTube channel where I at the
moment, just upload shots, but Ihave a lot of growth at the
moment there and we are planningto start with English-speaking
(36:42):
YouTube videos this year in myEnglish-speaking channel and
yeah, that's really the goal.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
One of your most popular videos three things PGA
pros do to create effortlesspower.
That's amazing.
It says POV right Point of view.
What gave you that idea for POV?
And when I look at your videos,you strike me as a modern day
John Jacobs.
I look at the videos I like.
(37:11):
Okay, I can see why this guy isso popular, because you can
almost scroll through and say,hey, I've got a very long back
swing, very short back swing Ithink Christophe would have an
answer and boom, there, it isThree minutes, something
bite-sized for the audience.
And then they go back.
Works, doesn't work.
Look for another one.
That's really, really amazing.
(37:33):
And I find, from aninstructor's point of view, that
there is not enough of suchvideos which have technical
depth but easy to understand,like secret source for power,
like who wouldn't want thesecret source for power?
And and what really captures mymy attention when I see your
(37:57):
videos, I see a big guy likeyourself playing with the driver
swinging in like a lasso andthen boom, 300 yards.
Talk a little bit about that.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Well, the thing is, you know, when I started with
the, with the, at some stage Isaid, okay, I want to, I want to
get more.
Well, more, I want to get mynarrow child in the
international market, in theEnglish speaking community,
maybe also in the Asiancommunity, and I thought I had
to go English.
Okay, and suddenly you know,like reels were a big thing,
(38:32):
youtube shorts were a big thing,suddenly, I was used to
producing long-form content andI knew from the YouTube channel
that if you don't give somethingwhich is compelling or like
cooks you to the screen, thepeople will not watch.
You know, and if you spend Ialways said, if I spend all the
(38:54):
time filming, planning, filming,editing, I want at least I want
people to see it at least likethe first few seconds are bad,
or you come with an um a few.
That is very common.
Yeah, then people just say, oh,it's just one of one of the one
, more of the same.
You know, it's just another one, you know.
(39:15):
And and I always said, okay, Ihave any quick dynamic changes,
I need, uh, other views andmaybe a little bit, um little,
sometimes a little bit.
Oh, he's 300 yards or more, butthen again, this is what the PGA
pros do, uh, whatever you know,and and for effortless power.
So I put some hooks with us, um, uh, maybe some very crazy um
(39:39):
um shots, like own shots or likenow with the POV, just to get
the people's attention, and thenreally thinking about, okay,
how can I put this in a?
I got basically one minute,basically for a short.
You know over a thing, but thething is, if you do a short for
one minute, it doesn't, it nevergets viral, it never gets.
(39:59):
So it has to be about 30 to 35,40 seconds maybe the maximum.
So how are you going to put acool message across in 40
seconds?
And so I really challengedmyself day and night, finding
cool ideas, finding visuals,finding crazy drills.
(40:21):
I think I like this idea, thisone with the wrist, like this
movement where I basically wentfrom steep to shallow, unlike
showing just a basic wristmovement.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
Speaking of steep to shallow, I thought another great
video of yours was when youwent through the whole spectrum
of this is steep, this isshallow.
I thought that was veryeducational.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
Thank you.
Yeah, thank you.
I thought this was not outthere.
But just going back to theother thing, I thought, okay, I
have to find a way to beeducating but also entertaining
at the same time.
And so I challenged myself thewhole time how can I be, how can
I do it differently than theother people and in a fun way
(41:11):
that people like to watch it?
And it's not the same the wholetime.
And it was one day I was, I wasactually going to, I was
wanting to buy some sunglassesand I saw the, the mate, the,
the, the, the.
I don't know I want to doa.
I don't know, I want to do some.
I don't want to do any otheradvertisement there, but there's
(41:34):
a company that sells actuallyglasses where you have a
built-in camera and a built-invideo, and I saw it and I talked
to my team and they also said,yeah, I get it, it's a cool idea
.
And then I bought it and then Istarted filming myself actually
playing golf with it, and ithas a beautiful microphone
system as well.
So I don't need any crazyhookup, it's just I put it on
the glasses and I just talk andI do it.
(41:54):
And then, if I wanted to have asecond perspective.
I did a second shot with thisor with the drone and then I
combined the things.
But in the beginning I just dida lot of videos, just only with
the glasses, and it was amazing.
I got, like every video, amillion views, 2 million views,
(42:15):
and the one you were talkingabout with the two release,
which is basically a very simple, not spectacular thing actually
, if you, if you, if you, ifyou're in the golf instruction,
you know there's an unhinging, asubpoena, you know, and there's
threatening of the right arm,you know that it's not like it's
not rocket science, but it wassuch an upset for many people
that I was teaching that andthis is crazy and this is BS and
whatever.
(42:36):
So you've got so much positive,also negative, comments and I
had over 3 million views only onInstagram with that and I
thought, wow, I mean, you know,when you, when you see
something's working nicely andI'm the first guy, obviously,
who did it with the POV, withthe glasses, and yeah, then you
(42:57):
keep on doing and I did a coupleof those and but I didn't want
to continue doing the whole timebecause it's not.
I think at some stage it getsboring.
So I do.
Yeah, I'd like to choose topicswhich are very controversial,
maybe, which are misunderstood.
I think the topic about wrist,wrist mechanics is really a
misunderstood among among hobbygolfers, but also good golfers
(43:23):
they, they, they.
They talk about feelingssometimes, but not what really
is happening.
And also the topic with turningyour hips and how the hips work
in the golf swing or how youmove your pelvis.
It's massively misunderstoodand I think it can only be
understood if you have actuallyworked with ground reaction or
(43:43):
with force plates and you haveexperience with that as a coach.
I think only then you have aclear understanding of what's
happening.
I mean, I'm not saying that youcannot teach golf without that,
but it definitely helps to geta very clear picture.
Speaker 3 (43:59):
Yeah, I think the better the golfer you teach, the
more detailed the informationneeds to be.
If you're a beginner golfer, itdoesn't really matter what kind
of grip you have, as long as itlooks okay.
Your backswing has to be okayto just play a 24 handicap.
But if you're talking aboutplus two going to a plus four,
(44:20):
that's a different ball gamealtogether.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
That's true.
But I also say, also for thebeginner, also for the normal
golfer, knowing this stuff, atleast knowing this stuff,
doesn't mean that you Because Ialways hear, oh, this guy is not
physically possible to do ityeah, maybe, but I rather have
to write the information as ahandicap 25 than having the
(44:44):
wrong information.
But what's the option?
You know, if I say, oh, this isso tough to do, this release,
I'm teaching there or showingthere, okay, what's the option?
The other option is doing achicken wing and putting in your
arms and hurting yourself.
Is that an option?
Or would I try to do it theright way, maybe fail a little
bit, you know, and you know,like you want to go to the Mars,
(45:05):
but you just make it to themoon is better than staying on
earth, you know.
So, basically, like that, goingbackwards, so.
So I'd rather have people, I'drather have people with the
correct information, maybepresented in a, in a fun way or
in an educational way, which islike engaging for a couple of
(45:27):
seconds, then not havinginformation.
Because that's exactly what Iwanted to do.
I wanted people learn about thegolf game.
I wanted to be the one whoactually tells the whole world
how golf should be or how itcould be.
(45:47):
Of course we know there are manyways to skin a cat, many ways
to swing the golf club.
There are different body types.
Yes, I know this.
But there are things in a golfswing which are universal and we
know from measurements.
There are basically only two,maybe three release styles PGA2
players use.
(46:07):
We know that Basically it's thereflection towards extension
release and the turn-downrelease.
Basically, these are the twomain.
Maybe there's some combinations, but these are the two main
release styles.
There's no.
And if somebody says, oh, youshouldn't extend your lead wrist
after impact, well, there couldbe a feeling of for somebody
(46:29):
for not overextending or doingtoo early.
But but, but we know frommeasurements, basically
everybody's doing it.
You know, um, whether they'redoing it consciously or not, you
know it's happening.
And the same is, um, with thebody rotation.
People talking about, oh, juststraighten your left knee and
you can turn, yeah, but thereare many ways how you can, how
you can straighten your leftknee and turn, you know, and the
(46:51):
one is efficient, one is not,one is the fake turn and one is
the the efficient turn, yeah.
So, um, yeah, this is, this isthe message I want to uh get
across in the world basicallythat modern golf instruction or
like modern, I mean the stuffhas been there.
For I mean, if you look at BenHogan and all the guys back also
(47:12):
in the 50s, 60s, whatever, oreven earlier, they had fantastic
swings back there.
I mean, look at Hogan, look atSnead, look at Bobby Jones, it
doesn't matter, look, they hadgreat golf swings and they were.
I'm sure they were doing thesame things or using the same
forces or the same principles,like modern golfers are using,
(47:36):
you know.
But back then what was the best?
They had, basically, maybe acamera.
A camera so they could do astill picture.
Maybe they could do a series ofpictures and say, okay, this is
how the golf swing should work,but it didn't tell you the
story.
It didn't tell you what youwere doing in the feet, it
didn't tell you how you wereloading your hip joint, it
didn't tell you about how thegrip pressure was.
(47:57):
And nowadays, with theinstruction we have on all the
measurements and smart peopleand biomechanics and doctors and
everybody like helping the game, nowadays we can actually give
a very clear picture of what'shappening in a golf swing.
And some things are universaland some things are style, you
(48:18):
know, and if you have high handsor low hands, you know these
are styles, but still the wristwill work the same for most
players.
Most players will load the ballof the foot.
Great players load the ball ofthe foot, of the lead foot, in
the early transition.
That's basically universal.
You will see, every greatplayer will have the pressure on
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the lead side before left armhits parallel in the downswing.
I mean, these are things maybethere's one there who doesn't
but I would say we're prettysafe.
These are things we see ingreat golf swings.
I don't know if you guys agree,but that's at least what I think
.
And we have this knowledgenowadays.
(48:59):
We have it, we have it.
And the only thing that'sstopping us is the message is
not there.
People say, oh, don't sway inthe backswing, don't sway.
If you don't sway in the earlybackswing you would have a
problem with pressure shift inthe second part.
So people are trying to staycentered with their pelvis in
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the start, don't move the pelvis, don't sway.
And then suddenly the clubmoves away and then they sway
anyway, because it's the way howground reaction works.
So everybody looks at me when Isay you have to sway in the
golf swing.
I mean sway sounds verynegative, but basically, what is
(49:42):
a sway?
A sway is a lateral movementtowards the target or away from
the target.
Yeah, and it happens in everygolf swing and it's maybe not
huge but it's there, you know,and there are forces that
produce doing that, or youproduce forces to do that.
You know, and there areconsequences because of that,
how your body and how everythingorganizes.
(50:03):
And then you're going to beconsistent.
And if you want to beconsistent, you have have a
efficient body movement andpressure shifts and wrist
movements and structure and allthat kind of stuff.
I'm sorry and I don't, I don't.
And then every time somebodysays, okay, but John Diddy
swings it, swings it long, soyeah, but he gets his structure,
structure, his pressures andeverything organized again, you
(50:24):
know.
So they're always outliers, butthey're still doing the
universal stuff.
So, um, yeah, this is themessage I want to get.
I want to get across um to thepeople and in a fun way,
educational way, and my team andI were really, especially last
week, we were thinking a lot ofthe formats, how, how we're
going to, what we're going to dofor the YouTube channel and so,
(50:46):
um, if you guys want tosubscribe at Bowsick golf it's
called, um, feel free tosomething coming up very soon.
And um, yeah, so yeah, and it'sfun, it's fun.
I love content creation.
I mean, I've been doing it formany years.
Um, I got a whole notebook inmy iPhone like ideas I want to
(51:07):
film.
I had a crazy idea last nightagain Again, what nobody has
seen before.
So I'm going to fool aroundtomorrow with some, with some
trial.
We're going to try some shootsand we're not going to publish
it yet, but I have some coolideas.
I want to try it If I can filmit the way I want to.
So it's always somethinghappening, always something
(51:31):
happening.
I like, I love ideas.
I love I read every comment.
I read every comment.
I don't answer every commentbecause it's too many, but I
read every comment because Iwant to know what people think.
I read the comments of othercontent creators, what people
think.
I want to understand how thepeople, the people think, what
they believe.
I get ideas from readingcomments.
(51:51):
I get ideas from talking topeople you know, and sometimes
you just see funny stuff and youthink that's cool.
I want to do this, or you seesomebody doing something really
cool and you think that's socool, but I want to do it better
than him, so I think that'sthat's.
That's how it how it works.
I mean, if you look like thisname, check out the wrapping,
(52:12):
the wrapping golf pro.
Oh yeah, he's got his own brand.
Speaker 3 (52:17):
Right yeah, he's got his own brand, he's from
California.
Speaker 2 (52:19):
I think I think he's awesome.
He's the he.
He does very, very good videos,very good content, very clever,
and he sings.
You know who would sing?
Who would rap?
I think that's brilliant.
Yeah, that's absolutelybrilliant.
This is, I think, how it shouldbe, you know.
Speaker 3 (52:36):
Yeah, exactly, you guys are more about educating,
entertaining.
It's not so much about oh lookhow smart I am, but it's more
about if you do this, you enjoythe game better.
And that's what it really isall about.
How can we get more people intothe game of golf?
Exactly so what programs areplanned for your
(53:02):
English-speaking fans?
Speaker 2 (53:06):
Programs.
Well, the one thing is Istarted doing now my online
courses because I had so many.
I'm really really busy in myhome course and driving around
giving courses Aimpoint coursesand my other courses, driver
courses and whatever in allAustria and Germany and all
(53:27):
these countries, so I'm reallybusy during the summer, but I
really enjoy also doing onlinetraining.
So I found out in the winter.
It's really nice to have peoplefrom different countries
working on the golf game with me.
So I started with Sneed app acouple of months ago, started
doing some online training and Iwill probably try to get more
(53:51):
and more people giving them thepossibility to work with me
online.
So if you go to the Sneed app,download Sneed app and you can
find me there.
This is something I want to domore from now on.
And the second thing isbuilding up the program.
We're building up the YouTubechannel now to getting the
knowledge, the people knowing meactually, and then we will
(54:15):
start to film content like paycontent, of course, but very
structured pay content thatpeople basically can learn golf
in a very simple way.
Let's put it this way we'reworking on programs and ways how
(54:35):
to combine all this to gatherall this information there is
out there, this complicatedinformation into a really easy
way to do it.
You know, this is somethingwe're really working on now, I
would say.
So the main things I developedlike a golf swing method.
(54:57):
I did a video on YouTube aboutthat in the German speaking
channel.
It kind of translated intoEnglish but it would be
something like the foolproofgolf swing.
So basically, I had the idea.
I had the idea one day with myteam.
Imagine the situation You'relike a guy who hasn't played
golf, maybe like a couple ofyears ago, but you've got family
(55:19):
, you have a family, you've gotkids, you're working a lot,
haven't played golf for 10 or 15years.
Sunday, your boss says, hey,listen, I got this guy coming in
on Sunday, this businesspartner, we have to play golf
with him.
You haven't played golf for 15years, you know.
So you go oh, my God, I haven'tplayed golf, I don't know how
to hold a club, I don't know howto swing.
We did a seven or eight month umproject for the german youtube
(55:44):
channel where we basically Ibasically um tried to find a
method, um that a person likethat.
It's more like a, it's likemore like a, like this idea of
the person who doesn't practicea lot, basically, or can't
practice a lot.
How can I get him, within a 10minute video, to actually not
(56:07):
suck completely when he'splaying with the boss?
You know, and um, there's areally smart things, uh, did.
They're like uh, um overhinging the wrists and and
getting a no hinge, and then forthat they have a flexed wrist
in the top and I get the setupin a good position already,
which is closer to a impactposition than, uh, maybe a
(56:27):
classical um setup and and youknow, and and and looking at two
or three key elements in thegolf swing which are important,
and then it's one of my mostpopular videos in the german
speaking countries.
We were playing around with theidea of maybe getting that idea
to the US market and theinternational market.
(56:49):
There are many things, manyideas we have.
Yeah, I'm really lookingforward to that.
It's cool.
Speaker 3 (56:58):
We look forward to that and our listeners can find
you again at Balsat Golf.
Speaker 2 (57:03):
Yeah, the YouTube channel is Balsat Golf and our
listeners can find you again atBalsak Golf.
Yeah, the YouTube channel isBalsak Golf and my Instagram is
at Christoph underscore Balsak.
I think you might have shownotes.
Maybe we can put them in there.
Speaker 3 (57:15):
We will add it there.
Speaker 2 (57:17):
Yeah, thank you.
Thank you, I'm also on TikTok.
You guys were close of losingTikTok in America, thank you.
And there is also, I'm also ontiktok.
You guys were close of losingtiktok in america, but I
actually am also there atchristoph balzic.
So, yeah, but, um, I got this,I like this.
Three channels and, um, yeah,so I'm trying to upload like
(57:39):
three or four shorts every weekand, and in the future, more, a
couple more other things.
Yeah, really, it's good, it'sgood fun, you know it's um, it's
also good exercise for thecoaching, because you, because
you um, try to be easy,understanding, you try to be
well received, you try to beengaging and that also, when
(58:00):
people come to me for physicallessons, they can really feel
that.
And what I started to do alsois I started to give Every time
somebody comes for a lesson.
You would think this is logical, but not when you actually do
this.
You do a recap of the lessonwith the student with the iPhone
, say, come for the iPhone.
(58:21):
I talk to you about two orthree key pointers, what you
should do, and that's it.
What I started to do now is Ialso started to film it from my
point of view.
So I did a point of view videofor the student that they see
how it should look like for themwhen they do their golf swing,
and I send it to them and theyabsolutely love it.
So that's that's something Ialso do and and I think, um,
(58:45):
also, I think all golfprofessionals should really have
a thought process about howthey deliver the message to
their students and how they makesure that they keep on doing it
after you, after they had yourlesson, because I have the
feeling sometimes, when somebodyjumps in the car and leaves me,
(59:05):
when they're 10 miles away frommy place, they forgot 70% of
what I said and at the momentyou know, at the moment they're
studying the lesson everythingis so clear, everything is so
yeah, finally, and then they'reat home and they cannot even
remember that they saw me thatday, you know sometimes.
So I really make sure that theinformation I give them um, that
(59:29):
they, um, that they, uh, thatthey, that it comes across and
they can, they can actually findit, find the feeling again for
that on their own, and what Ialso offer many times is that
they send me a video of theirswing after 10 days or after
seven days, after they have thefeeling they want to show it to
me, because when they want toshow it to me they really try
(59:50):
hard.
You know that's a fun one,because when people try to send
you a golf swing to recheck,basically after seven to 10 days
, they don't send you a shitswing Because actually the first
time in their life they look atthis swing.
How many people actually readgolf swing?
I don't know how that is inSingapore, in the US, but in my
(01:00:12):
area nobody looks at this golfswing and they're really
surprised that's what they'redoing.
But if they have to send me agolf swing, then they find they
look looking at the golf swingand say I'm doing this again.
He said I should not be doingthis, you know.
And then he, and then he'sactually start practicing until
they have a golf swing they cansend to me and that's that.
I think that's a good one.
That's a good one, you know.
(01:00:32):
So motivating people to sendthe golf swing because they have
to watch the golf swing, thatthat teaches them to get more
feedback from video and actuallyworking on the golf swing, that
that teaches them to get morefeedback from video and actually
working on the golf swing yeahthank you.
Speaker 3 (01:00:47):
Thank you so much, uh , for your time today, christoph
.
That was a lot to unpack forour listeners, and I'm sure
they'll find a lot of benefit inlistening to this podcast as
well as watching your socialmedia content.
I can't thank you enough foryour time today, christoph.
Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
Thank you so much, justin, thank you so much Jesse.
I really appreciate it and,yeah, all the best to you guys.
Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
Thank, you, Christoph .
Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
Yeah, and I definitely will be also
following your, your podcast.
Yeah, thanks.
Speaker 3 (01:01:16):
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
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