This is the second last episode of 'Probably Important Podcast', before we turn the page to our new chapter of 'Forged Youth | Legacy Within'.
In this powerful episode, Mariel sits down with Bob Conlin, ontological coach, father, and founder of transformative men's retreats. Bob shares his raw journey through addiction recovery, the life-altering challenges of becoming a father during a high-risk pregnancy, and the courage it took to redefine masculinity through vulnerability and personal growth. Together, they explore the philosophy of ontological coaching, the importance of identity over occupation, and how curiosity and courage fuel meaningful change. You’ll laugh, reflect, and maybe even cringe as Bob recounts being pranked with Aztec death whistles at a retreat; proving that growth doesn’t have to come without a sense of humor.
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