May 16, 2024 • 43 mins
Blending the spiritual art of manifesting with a scientific approach
Chloe is the author of Untapped Magic: a practical guide to spiritual awakening. She uses an evidence-based, proven system with scientific data to support the effectiveness of manifesting, helping her clients overcome obstacles keeping them stuck.
Key Takeaways:
- Measuring your "vibe" and how to raise it
- The formula for manifesting (Intention + Essence = Manifestation)
- A blueprint for couples navigating their ever-evolving partnership
- The limitation of manifesting and addressing skeptics
- Using the law of attraction to manifest your ideal partner
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Sam Laliberte - entrepreneur, digital nomad and freedom seeker, hosts the Freedom Lifestyle Podcast to expose people to the many ways you can design your dream life and unlock your own version of the freedom lifestyle. Her guests have empowered themselves through flexible work as a way to “have it all” - financial, location AND schedule freedom.
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Speaker 1 (00:18):
Thank you so much for joining us.
And she helps people achievetheir ultimate life goals.
Chloe's approach is very muchevidence-based, proven systems
and scientific data to supportthe effectiveness of this type
of work, helping her clients toovercome obstacles that keep
them stuck in life throughmanifesting and raising your
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vibe.
So in this episode we getreally specific.
We talk about Chloe's exactmanifestation formula and how
she uses this with her clients,many of them who are looking to
call in more wealth.
So we talk a little bit abouthow you can approach
manifestation and money to bringthose things together.
We also address how to actuallymeasure your vibe.
(01:00):
I think raise the vibe is thrownaround a lot in settings, but
how do we even know what ourvibe is and how do we actually
raise it with very practicalsteps and tools in mind?
Something I uncoveredorganically in my conversation
with Chloe is that she has avery beautiful relationship with
her husband where they reallystrive to bring their different
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approaches to life together andco-create and make magic
together.
Chloe follows her intuition andher feelings and her partner is
more analytical and boy could Irelate to that.
But she talked a lot about howthey've come together and really
worked on those differences andeven started to use them as a
superpower in her marriage, andhas advice on how other couples
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might approach, becoming morealigned with their partner or
having difficult conversations,so that you can discuss your
goals and how they might bedifferent, but how you can come
together and build a life thatboth of you are really excited
about.
So I love that we added that inthere.
We even address the skeptics,because I find there's nothing
more annoying than when you tellsomebody about this epic thing
(02:06):
that you just manifested andthen they poke holes at oh well,
that's a coincidence or that'snot science back, or that is woo
, woo.
And so I put Chloe on the hotseat.
Let's talk to these skeptics.
What are the limitations ofmanifesting and is there real
science and research here?
So look forward to that.
You're going to learn a lotwith no further delay.
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Here's Chloe.
Chloe, welcome to the FreedomLifestyle Podcast.
How are we feeling today?
What's the vibe going into thisinterview?
It's great.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Sam, the vibe is calm and ease and flow.
That's how I'm feeling today.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Amazing.
Okay, good, I'll try not toshake that up with your calm
demeanor and I feel it from you.
I was just talking backstagehow you've been on a little bit
of a book tour doing all thesepodcast interviews and all of
that.
So I'm really excited that ourshow has been added to your list
and I had a peek at your book,read some chapters and really
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excited to dive into that today.
Awesome.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Ready to explore.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Where in the world are you taking today's call from
Curious?
What time it is there and whatwould you normally be doing if
you weren't on this interviewwith me?
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Actually, I'm in Seattle Washington.
I recently moved from LA and Ilove it here.
If I wasn't doing this podcast,I would probably either be
writing so I'm working onanother project right now or I
would be with a client so thatwould be either one of the two
or possibly walking my dog itdepends on you know what he's up
(03:41):
to.
He's pretty needy, so I wouldprobably be doing one of those
three things.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
LA to Seattle.
That seems like a big lifestylechange.
What was the motivation there?
Speaker 2 (03:53):
I've always wanted to live in the Pacific Northwest,
even before I was in LA.
I'm like can we just go to thePacific Northwest?
There's just this calmingenergy.
I don't know, but whenever I'min either Oregon or Washington,
I just have this calming energy.
And, of course, california isits own beautiful place and I'm
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so grateful that I lived therefor seven years.
But the next chapter in my lifewas somewhere that was calling
in ease, flow and peace, andthat's the next chapter that I'm
in right now in my life andthat is what this is.
So I was just like ease, flowand peace, and that's the next
chapter that I'm in right now inmy life and that is what this
is.
So I was just like okay, wehave a chance to live in Seattle
, let's do it.
It was kind of random and weactually just came to Seattle
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this was back in Christmas of 23.
Just randomly checking out thearea to see if we liked it.
We had no intentions on buying ahouse or moving and literally
three days in, we randomly justhappened to tour some houses and
we actually put an offer in ona house and we bought a house
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unexpectedly over Christmas.
It was our Christmas present.
So I'm like, okay, this is thenext chapter, because it's just
I love it.
I don't know, I just I feellike this place is magic and
it's just the next up level thatI was trying to call in and
manifest, and this is what I'vegotten.
So I'm I'm happy about that soexciting.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
I mean I'm in Vancouver, BC, or near Vancouver
, so pretty close to I'm notsure if you've just been a
little bit more North, buttotally agree the lifestyle, the
vibe, the energy, but also justthe power of changing up your
environment and how helpful thatcan be to change other aspects
of your life and up-level inother ways.
It sounds like it was a we thatyou did the move with.
(05:41):
And so what is your partner orwhoever you're traveling with?
Maybe you just mean the dog,but you know, are they on board
for a life up level?
How much alignment is there interms of thinking about
approaching life that way?
Speaker 2 (05:54):
No.
So me and my husband, we werethe ones who made the decision
and it was basically it wasabout his job, because his job
is based in LA.
So you know, we lived, we havea house in the Northern suburbs
of LA and we're like, okay, youcan use back and forth a few
times a week.
If we ever did leave, wouldthey be okay with that?
(06:16):
And that was really the bigquestion was how are we going to
make this work Right?
And he was at a place where hewanted to call in more ease and
flow.
He's in a really great position, he's in a really great company
, he does a lot of things, he'sa leader in his position and he
also is very present in his role.
But he also felt the need thathe wanted to call in more ease
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and flow.
And I think we were just at thatstage in our lives where we're
ready for the next thing and ourpeace of mind, our happiness,
calling that in is important tous and that's what Washington is
giving us.
And he was on board with it.
And I'm like, oh, wow, this isall working out, because at
first I wasn't for sure thatwhat happened or not, and when
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we pulled the trigger.
It was just like wow, like thisthing is really happening.
I was just so ready for what Ifeel right now.
I can't even explain it to you.
I haven't had the pleasure ofgoing to Vancouver or anywhere
in BC yet I'm going to do thatvery soon but it's just the
calmness of what I think the PNWbrings, and I wanted to have
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that as part of my everyday lifeIn California.
I love it, but I was just readyfor something else, and he was
as well.
So we were both aligned and Ithink having a partner that's
aligned is you need that right.
If you're not on the same page,you're not able to move forward
, and he was totally on boardwith me and I'm really grateful
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that we're on the same page asfar as what we want, what's our
true essences, what we're tryingto call in.
We're all aligned in that rim,and that allowed us to make this
spontaneous move and make it areality.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
That's so beautiful.
I agree with so much of whatyou just said.
I honestly feel like thebiggest threat to my own
marriage is a future where we'remisaligned, where suddenly our
North star is changing andbecause we both have such growth
mindsets and are so ambitiousand our life is constantly
changing, I feel like that's abit of a threat, because when
you're changing so much, are yougoing to keep changing together
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?
Are you going to keep aligningwith that same North Star or in
our individual pursuits ofconstantly growing?
Are we going to wake up one dayand be like, whoa, I'm a
different person than you metand now it's not going the same
way, and that does scare mesometimes.
Does that ever come up for you,you know?
Speaker 2 (08:42):
as far as like living our lives together.
There were some things in thebeginning when I was manifesting
because I'm I love to think bigright, like nothing scares me,
like even when I landed my bookdeal for this book that to me it
wasn't scary and for somepeople it's like, oh my God,
that's something that you knowit's very hard to achieve.
(09:05):
But I think for me, the waythat I think about things has
completely changed that thingsthat are not scary to me are
scary to him.
Or how did you do that?
How is that possible?
Because he's such an analyticalperson and he thinks in a very
analytical way.
And I'm completely the opposite.
I'm just more of like, I'm anintuitive, I'm creative and I go
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with how my gut feels and Idon't usually think on the
analytical stage.
And because he does, it's kindof like there was a clash of
well, how are you making thishappen?
If you didn't do X, y and Z,how is that possible?
But I think, now that he's seenthe power of how manifestation
works and how it's happened inour lives, he's more open to it.
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But we've always been intuitiveand spiritual people.
We have always been that way.
But it is definitely it hasbeen scary because I'm like, oh
my gosh, I really want to livein Seattle, but is he able to go
right now?
And if he want to live inSeattle but is he able to go
right now, and if he's not ableto go, when is that going to
happen?
That was a thought that I hadin the back of my mind, like I
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don't want to leave this place.
You know, we went back inDecember of 23 and it's just
like what if this can't be ours?
I don't want to have a teaserof what could be, just to go
back and then the dream of thatwill be diminished.
It so happened that he was justperfectly aligned with that and
we made it work out.
(10:33):
But I think, all couples, thereare some things that you're just
never going to agree upon, soit's just better to agree or
disagree.
But I think the main coreessences are something that you
have to be aligned with, andthis is one of them, for sure,
as far as your livelihood, whereare you going to stay?
What are you going to do?
How do you want your life tounfold?
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What makes you happy?
What are the foundations?
And we're super aligned withthat and I made sure of that
early on in the relationship.
But even as we've grown aspeople, we still have those same
core foundations.
I think that doesn't reallychange a person.
But I think experiences changeyou and it depends on the kind
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of experience that you have thatmold you to become who you're
trying to be.
But also other people changeyou, people who make you feel a
certain way or make you feel away that you shouldn't feel or
how you want to feel.
They also can mold you tobecome better or worse or
stagnant.
And I'm just really blessed andI'm lucky that this guy of mine
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we're aligned in everythingthat I want us to be aligned in
and the things that I don't want, we work on those.
We talk about it.
I think communication is reallywhat people need to work on If
they feel that they're notaligned.
You have to talk about what youwant and then come to a happy
middle.
That's how it works in marriage.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
I totally agree Communication is key.
I also know that communicationcan be challenging for some
people and, not to generalize,but men do typically have less
experience talking about theirfeelings, talking about their
desires, communicating what theywant, knowing what they want
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and like putting their heart ontheir sleeve.
And that's definitely changingand there's a lot of progress
happening.
But so much of what you sharedis similar to my own journey,
and so if someone's listening tothis and they're thinking, yeah
, we are misaligned, like I wantthis big vision for our life
and I'm not sure how toinfluence him or get him on
board or talk about it, wheneverwe try to have those
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conversations, there's a bit ofa wall and he has trouble
expressing his feelings ortalking about that.
Is there any advice or wisdomyou could pass on to a couple
that might be feeling that wayafter hearing your amazing story
?
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Yeah, you should read my book, but no, I talk about
this in my book, untapped Magic,because a lot of people are
unaligned and they don't know ifthis person is either going to
A work out long term or, b ifthey're already fully committed,
meaning that they're in amarriage.
(13:16):
How do they know if this issomething that they want to
continue on?
And if they don't, because it'sso scary how do you have that
conversation when you think,okay, it's time for us to really
have a talk about what thefuture looks like.
Talk about what the futurelooks like, and one thing that I
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tell people who are lookingeither to find love or they're
in a relationship is does thisperson match your essences?
And what I mean by essences isthese are the core, foundational
principles that this person hasto have before you even decide.
This is your person, meaning,do they align with who you want
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them to be?
When I called in my husband, Ihad core principles.
He had to be tall.
That was number one, becauseI'm 5'9", so he definitely had
to be over 6'2" and it was anon-negotiable and obviously
number two.
I had to be attracted to him.
But, on a more serious note, Iwanted him to be a kind of
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person who, no matter whathappened if I was in a bad mood
or I was having a bad day or weweren't agreeing with something
he would love me unconditionally, without conditions, meaning he
wouldn't falter, he wouldn'tchange, his love would remain
constant.
And that's something that a lotof people struggle with,
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because if they get into anargument, they love someone less
or I don't know now you're,you're not the same or
something's changed.
They don't have thatconsistency, and I wanted him to
be able to be a kind, genuine,loyal, loving person, no matter
what, and obviously love myfamily, my friends, me.
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But I had to put down thesecore essences in order to call
him in, and I knew that I'mworthy of that, because I'm
going to give him this and more.
But I want him to also emulatewhat I'm going to be giving him.
And once I had my foundationalprinciples down, I just knew who
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was the guy and who wasn't,because they didn't align with
what I wanted them to be, andthat was what was really
important to me.
So I think if people arestruggling with alignment, you
have to ask yourself is thisperson going to stand up for you
, no matter what Are they goingto be your ride or die?
Are they going to be with youthrough thick and thin and are
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they going to love youconsistently, constantly,
without falter, no matter whathappens?
What is your core, foundationalprinciples when it comes to
love?
And if they're not, talk aboutit.
What happened to them wherethey feel that they can't do
that or they can't be that foryou?
Is that acceptable for you?
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And be honest with yourself?
I think so many of us we lie toourselves that, whatever comes
our way, we lie and say this iswhat I want, even though we know
this is not what we want.
But because we don't know orwe're afraid to actually be
truthful with ourselves, we'rejust calling in the first thing
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that walks through the door.
So for us to have alignment, wehave to number one, like I said
, know our essences and bereally intentional with what we
want in our lives and have afirm hand in saying either you
have this or you don't.
And if they don't, you knowthat they're not your person.
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If you're in a marriage alreadyand you are trying to save your
marriage, you have to askyourself is this what I want to
save?
Do I really want to be with thisperson long-term and if I do,
what can I do in order for meand this person to have a long,
lasting relationship?
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How can we both cultivate inhappiness?
What does that look like for us?
And sit down together and havethat honest conversation?
But if your partner is notwilling to do that, then it may
be a time where you can considerdoing couples counseling or
coaching or having them talk toa trusted friend to be able to
get more in tune with how theyfeel and then to come back to
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the table.
To get more in tune with howthey feel and then to come back
to the table.
But if they're not going to bewilling to do that for you, it's
time to question again yourcore values as in is this your
perfect partner or have you beenlying to yourself all this time
?
As hard as that may be, youhave to face the truth sometimes
and figure out what aligns withyou and what doesn't.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
What aligns with you and what doesn't.
Absolutely, it sounds like youmanifested your partner, that
you actually took a lot of theapproaches that you write about
in your book Untapped Magic APractical Guide to Spiritual
Awakening.
You were doing that even beforeyou wrote the book, and that's
how you called in your partner,and so maybe we should talk
about the formula that you havefor manifesting, which is
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intention plus essence equalsmanifestation.
Can you walk us through whatthat means, then, and maybe we
can workshop an example ofsomething I'm manifesting after?
That would be cool.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
All right.
So in my book I talk about that.
Intention plus the essenceequals the manifestation, and
what I mean by that is we haveto have an intention behind our
manifestation, meaning we can'tjust say I want the perfect
person or I want a milliondollars and there's no essence
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behind that.
We have to actually put in whatI call the foundational
principles, or the quality ofwhat that essence is going to
bring us.
So if we're trying to call inmore money and we want a million
dollars, well, what is themillion dollars going to provide
for us?
How are we going to manage themoney?
What do we want to feel when wehave the million dollars?
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Is it to have safety, security,generational wealth?
Is it to be able to havesustainability or to call in
ease and flow?
What is the essence behind themoney?
The same with a partner.
You want a partner.
That's great.
But what about the partner?
Should they be a certain height?
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Should they look a certain way?
How are they going to treat you, your friends, your family, if
you get into an argument?
How are they going to respondor how are they going to react?
What is their energy like?
Is it a calming energy?
You have to put down thesefoundations in order for the
intention of the manifestationto come through, because
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otherwise you're going to becalling in anything, and we
don't want that right.
We want to have the exactperson that we want to call in,
versus a random guy who we don'tfind attractive and he doesn't
have anything that we're lookingfor.
So when I talk about that, Iwant us to get crystal clear on
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what it is we're trying tomanifest.
Now, some of us we may not evenknow what we're trying to call
in.
We know we want something good,but we just don't know all the
fancy, fine details, and that'sokay.
What I want you to do in thatinstance is to then call in the
essences.
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How do you want to feel whenthat thing comes into your life
Again, if it's going to be moneyor if it's going to be a person
?
How would it feel to have amillion dollars?
How would you feel?
Feel that that is what you'regoing to attract to you?
The same with a partner.
When you're with someone, howdo they make you feel If you're
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again going through a tough time?
Are they going to be there foryou?
Are they going to be supportiveof you?
How do they uplift you and makeyou even better than what you
are right now.
You have to focus on thefeeling of what it's going to be
like to actually have that inyour life, and when you focus on
the feeling of it, that's whenthe manifestation will come to
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you, and that's what I mean byintention plus essence equals
your manifestation.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
I know you also talked about manifesting from
authentic self rather than theego in your book, so how does
that align with this and how canwe differentiate between those
two then?
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Yeah, that's a great question.
When I talk about manifestingfrom our authentic self, what
I'm talking about is manifestingas if no one's watching you.
You're in the shower, you'resinging, no one's there, you can
be as loud as you want andyou're having a good time
because no one's there to judgeyou.
When I talk about manifestingfrom the authentic self, I want
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you to manifest what you trulydesire, and not what you should
desire or what someone tells youyou need to desire, but what
you actually want.
If no one was there to judgeyou or tell you this is the way
or this isn't the way, that'sthe authentic self.
When we're manifesting from theegotistic self, to me that means
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you're manifesting from a placethat isn't authentic.
It's based upon what someoneelse has told you to do peers,
social media, your family,caretakers, friends and because
of all of these beliefs thathave built up in you, friends,
and because of all of thesebeliefs that have built up in
you, you think you should bemanifesting a certain person or
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a certain type of car or houseor money, because this is what
society has told you you shouldbe doing, but it isn't what you
authentically want.
And again, it goes back to theessence and the intention behind
it.
Meaning you have to feel whatyou want to feel like if that
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thing were real and if it was inyour life today.
Meaning how would it feel tohave everything that you want or
better right now?
What would your life look like?
How would you feel If you feelthat feeling that's going to
allow you to manifest what youwant and bring it into your life
?
Because you are telling theuniverse I want to feel like
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this.
I want to have happiness, I wantto have ease and flow and peace
.
Feeling like this right now,even though I don't have yet
what I want, I know that you'regoing to bring it to me.
It's that trust muscle with theuniverse and helping you to
manifest and bring to you whatyou're trying to call in.
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And that's how they go hand inhand and that's the difference
between when you manifestauthentically versus from your
egotistic self from youregotistic self.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Okay, that's very helpful.
I specifically like focusing onthe feeling that you want to
feel, because I feel like youand I are probably people who
have been having desires ourentire life Like we know we want
, we're going after it, we'remaking it happen.
Next, next, next, next.
I could probably ask you whatare you manifesting right now?
And you could probably give mea dozen things that you're
trying to call in, and the samegoes with me.
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But I have met some people,honestly, who are like I don't
know what my dreams are or Idon't know what I want.
I think this whole manifestingconcept is cool and I know
there's some science behind itwhich I definitely want to get
into, because there's also somecritics behind manifesting.
But even to that person who'sso intrigued by this law of
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attraction concept but doesn'teven know what to call in, what
prompt can we give to thatperson to help gain clarity on
what do I actually authenticallywant?
I'm aware society has beenputting me on a path and I'm
aware of all of this, but Istill can't tap into that
authenticity.
What's the prompt for them?
Speaker 2 (24:59):
I would tell them again to go back to your
feelings and to focus on how doyou want to feel, what lights
you up, what are your passions?
What do you enjoy doing?
It can be something as simpleas being in nature or going for
a walk, or just having that calmand ease and just that, I don't
know, just that perfectstillness about someone.
(25:22):
Right, it all depends on whatwe're trying to feel and what we
want to feel like, how we wantsomeone to make us feel, how
they can amplify how we alreadyfeel about ourselves.
So I would say for anyone who'sstruggling with manifesting
anything they don't even knowwhat to manifest how do you want
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to feel?
Do you want to wake up happy ona Monday?
Do you want to enjoy Sunday andnot worry about Monday coming
around, because you just lovethe way your life is?
Do you want to be able to justhave time and spend it with
yourself or call in a partner tohelp amplify that happiness?
What do you want to feel like?
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And once you get clear on that,that will draw you to things
that will bring you that feelingright and from there you can
take it to.
Okay, do I want to make this ahobby, or do I want to grow this
into a business or somethingmore than just a hobby?
Do I want to spend more timepainting or writing or whatever
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it is that you want to do?
That's how you can actuallymanifest things that will show
you and guide you to yourauthenticity, because I know,
with a lot of us, social mediahas dimmed our light and it's
unfortunate, but there's just somuch on social media that has
affected a lot of us, especiallymental health wise, and I want
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to tell you that, as long as youknow who you are, or you're
getting closer to knowing whoyou are, you can cultivate in
the happiness that your lifedesires and that you want to
bring in into your life.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Absolutely Okay.
So really focus on how you wantto feel and then, if you are
somebody who knows how you wantto feel but also knows you are
somebody who knows how you wantto feel but also knows that you
want, we got to make it asspecific as possible.
I've seen so many of thosememes of manifesting gone wrong
and I have so many examples ofmy own journey.
I remember for so long I wassaying I want to get paid to
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travel, I want to get paid totravel.
I want to get paid to travel.
And sure enough, I got anopportunity to be part of a
women's travel company andtravel with the organization.
And on paper it sounded sogreat and every time I would
tell people about this job I had, it would get so much
validation from the public.
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It was a very ego-driven job.
But then when I was actually onthe trips, nothing about it was
how I wanted to feel.
My nervous system was always soshot.
It was super stressful.
It wasn't the types oftraveling I wanted to do.
It was totally not aligned withthe places I wanted to go to.
And then I had to keep goingback to the places because I was
an expert in it and I was likewell, I'm getting paid to travel
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, but this is really not what Imeant, and so it is so important
that we get specific, andthat's why?
Speaker 2 (28:08):
because they'll just give you whatever you said.
You wanted to get paid totravel.
Okay, here's your travel,here's your pay.
But were you specific?
So I totally can resonate withthat.
I mean, early on in my journeyI had a similar story where I
would manifest boyfriends whowere crappy.
I mean, they looked great onpaper, they looked nice on the
outside, but on the inside theywere crap, and it was because I
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wasn't specific with the type ofpartner that I wanted.
And again, I was like ateenager, like 18, 19.
But the point is it works, butwe have to be very specific.
The point is it works, but wehave to be very specific.
And that's why it's soimportant, when you know what
you want, to write down everyminute detail, because that way,
when that thing shows up, it'sexactly what you want or it's
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greater than what you call them.
So that's super important forus to get crystal clear, if we
know exactly what we really want.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
And I love that you just said because it works,
which is a great segue into whatI want to make sure we address
today, which is like thelimitations of manifesting.
How do we address the skepticswho hear about manifesting and
poke holes at it?
What can we say to them aboutthe science or the research, or
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how confident you are fromeverything you've learned that
this really is real and law ofattraction isn't some woo-woo
thing, that's coincidental, itis proven.
Talk to them, talk to theskeptics.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
I was a skeptic.
No, I was.
I'm like this crap doesn't work.
This is ridiculous, this is awaste of my time and energy,
because I would do things thatthe books would say that I, the
movies, would tell you to dothink happy thoughts, or say
this mantra the end.
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And that was it right.
But it wasn't the end.
That was just the tip of theiceberg.
It wasn't even a foundationalprinciple of thinking happy
thoughts, and what I had torealize was that I needed to dig
deeper and do more work toactually figure out the
foundational principles ofmanifestation, the science
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behind it, right, and once Ifigured that out, that's when it
began to work for me.
So the subconscious mind plays ahuge role in manifestation,
because this is where all of ourlong-term memories are housed.
Everything is housed there,from a baby, a child, an
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adolescent, even as a youngadult.
It's housed in the subconsciousmind and this is where our
beliefs.
They live in the subconsciousmind.
And if we have the same beliefsthat we have from a child and
we haven't changed them andthey're not doing us any good,
we have to go back and rewritethat story in order to cultivate
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and call in what we really wantto do so.
Our subconscious mind, like Imentioned it, houses our
long-term memory and ourconscious mind it houses our
awareness.
Right now we're having thisconversation, we're aware of our
surroundings right now.
That's our conscious awareness.
And when we understand how thesubconscious and the conscious
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mind works, that's afoundational principle to build
upon manifesting and havinglifelong success and not just
fly by night one time successmanifestations, because we know
how manifesting works and we cantake that and we can use that
for the better.
And in my book I talk about howthe subconscious mind works and
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how we can use it.
But quickly, to give you alittle analogy on it, what I
mean by that is if we have afear of being successful or a
fear of not having enough moneyor finding the perfect person or
keeping the perfect person orwhatever it is that we're trying
to manifest, that is simply dueto a scarcity mindset.
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There's a block that we haveand we need to be able to
unblock in that part of our life, to really call in and rewrite
that story so that we're able tolive the life that we want.
Who felt invisible or who wereunloved or whatever we had
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experienced at that time, and togo back as an observer and to
tell our younger selfeverything's going to be okay.
To give ourselves the love andcare that we need in order to
unblock our subconscious mind,to erase that belief system that
no longer serves us, and tothen write a new belief that we
want to serve in our lives goingforward and that can be I am
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safe, I am secure, I amprotected, I am loved.
Whatever we need to hear that webelieve in to be true for us.
We can then write that storyand we can tell ourselves that
this is my new life now.
From now on, I am loved, I amprotected, I am worthy, I have
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more than enough.
Everything will always work outfor me, and that becomes the
new narrative.
So for the skeptics out there,I encourage you to go back and
create foundational principlesto understand are you blocked in
a way in your life?
Did someone or something hurtyou before that you're still
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holding on to?
When you let that go, then trymanifesting again, because once
we do that and we have a newstory, we can then call in and
cultivate what we really want tohave in this world.
That's what I would say to them, because I was one of them.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Totally, and is there any data or proven research or
studies that are happening thatwe can refer people to?
Because I worry that someonewho's a skeptic basically saying
, okay, we'll try it this waythis time.
They might not even be open tothat because they don't have a
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connection between somethingthat's so intangible and the
proof that it works.
And so are there peoplestudying this?
Is there any data or truescience-backed research that
manifestation does work, thatyou've learned about or that you
know is happening?
Yes, there is.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
So there are so many studies that talk about
neuroscience and I encourageskeptics or anyone to look up
any specific study onneuroscience and neural pathways
.
Neural pathways they aresignals that basically tell our
brain something.
So if we touch the stove and weget burned and we're like, oh
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my God, that was hot, A neuralpathway basically sent a signal
from your brain to your hand andsay move your hand because it's
hot, move it out the way, right.
So what those neural pathwaysdo when we're trying to manifest
something is they rewrite newpassages, meaning that they
create, let's say, new roads inour mind for us to have new ways
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of thinking.
That way we can cultivate newways of manifesting and then
eliminate the ones that nolonger serve us.
There is so much research onthis.
If you Google neural pathways,if you Google manifestation data
points, you will find studiesthat will provide you with
information that it has beenproven to work.
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So there's definitely studiesout there.
We just have to be proactiveand want to dig deeper and
research on how we can figureout what works for us and then
what may not work for us,because manifestation it isn't a
one size fit all right, it'sgoing to be tailored to how we
accept information, how weprocess information and, based
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upon that, what may work forsomeone may not work for someone
else.
It's best to understand whatworks for us and then use that
to help us create the life thatwe want to live.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Absolutely Okay, great examples, and I will also
mention Joe Dispenza is somebodythat I've really followed.
His book breaking the habit ofbeing yourself is so science
backed and really talks aboutwhat you're saying, like neural
pathways and these signals thatwe send to our brain, and how
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real and proven all of this is.
So I doubt you're listening tothis if you are a skeptic and
you saw manifesting in the title, but I bet you're somebody who
has people in your life thatwhen you bring them the joy of
manifesting and how amazing thisis and how it's working, you
have those people poking holesat it, because that is my
experience.
(37:08):
And so there you have it.
Now we have some answers andways that you can defend
something that is so powerfuland real for you that I
personally find when people takeit down a notch and make me
question it, it kind of likeloses its power, which is my own
journey to work through.
But I think it was great that wecan give some examples.
So a couple more questions.
(37:29):
I know we're almost at time,but something that you talk
about in the book is theimportance of keeping our
vibration high, regardless ofour current circumstances, and
we hear this thrown around a lotabout raising your vibe, and
this is how you raise your vibe.
How do we even know what levelour vibe is at right now?
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Is there anything that we cando to kind of measure our
current vibrational frequency?
And then let's talk about howwe can actually do it and what
you share in the book.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
Yeah.
So in order for us to check ourvibe right now, it's just
simply asking how do you feel?
How do you feel right now Onone being really bad, three
being oh, whatever, I'm okay, tofive being static how are you
feeling?
And that's how you can measureyour wavelength and how you're
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able to attract or manifestsomething.
When you're feeling really,really good, people can feel
that because you're emittingyour energy to other people and
they're attracted to that.
You attract more people.
When you're feeling crappy,you're not really in a good mood
, people are like, oh, are youokay, are you doing okay today?
And that's because you'reemitting that energy.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
I hate that, when someone says that to me, of
being like are you okay?
Like it seems like there'ssomething wrong, and then I'm
just like, oh, I'm like puttingit out there, I'm showing people
, but it is so true, people canreally feel that energy.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Yeah, I mean your spouse can feel it.
You can be in the other room.
They're like what's going on,you know?
So people can feel the energy.
It's your facial expression,it's the way that you move, it's
just your aura.
So if you're wanting to raiseyour vibe something that I do if
I'm not feeling my best, I goback to my mantras.
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This is where they come intohandy and I go back to them and
I read them and I think abouteverything that I've manifested
in my life and how my life isthe way it is today, based upon
every single thing that I havedone up until this point.
This is my life now, and once Ithink about everything I have,
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how grateful I am for my life,it obliviates even a thousand
negative thoughts, because onepositive thought has that much
power over negativity.
And we can raise our vibes bygoing back to mantras.
I have them sprinkled all overmy book because I want people to
know that how you feel aboutyourself, how you think about
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yourself, it affects your lifeand I want people to raise their
vibe.
But if you're feeling low, youcan increase your vibe by saying
something such as everythingwill always work out for me.
I will get through this.
I am worthy, I am deserving andknow that whenever it's raining
, the sun will always come out.
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Whenever there is an ebb inyour life, whenever there's a
drought, there's always a flowon the horizon.
You're never going to be stuckin a negative situation.
Unless you allow yourself tolinger there.
You will always have a way toget out.
And once people believe that,and once I believe that, my life
changed, my mantra now iseverything always works out for
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me and it always does, because Ibelieve that to be true and
that's a part of my subconsciousimprint where it is true for me
in my life that everything willalways work out for me, in
order for us to know if we'rereally far away from a
manifestation, if it feels likeit's just so far away, it means
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that that thing that you'retrying to call in is on a much
higher vibrational frequencylevel than where you are right
now, and what that means is youstill have work to do Now.
This could be calling in a bookdeal.
This could be a new career.
This could be a move across.
Book deal, this could be a newcareer.
This could be a move across thecountry.
This can be anything, and if itfeels so far away you're not
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there yet, it means you stillhave to do aligned, actionable
steps to get there.
That can mean raising your vibeas well, but also putting in
the work to get to where youwant to go, because we do have
to do the work to get there.
We can't just think aboutthings all day long.
We actually have to do the workto achieve the goal in this
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life.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
That's a good reminder.
Action is part of all of thisreally setting things in motion,
understanding like the law ofchange and how that even works
in the physics behind that.
You kind of have to sometimestake the first step or takes
that next step to let theuniverse and the world know that
you are ready for this and thatyou're moving towards that.
So really glad we touched onthat.
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I am going to include a link tountapped magic in the show
notes for this.
So please, everyone, definitelygo check out Chloe's book.
It sounds like there's so muchgoodness in there for us to view
and to take in, regardless ofwhether you're a seasoned
manifester or you're completelynew to this.
I think there's something inthis book for everybody.
So we'll definitely includethat.
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Chloe, my final question foryou.
The show is called the FreedomLifestyle.
I'm so happy that you weredrawn to being featured as a
guest here and you said yes tothis opportunity.
How does the term freedomlifestyle resonate with you?
We can close off there.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
Yeah, freedom lifestyle.
For me, it means being able todo whatever I want to do
whenever I want to do it, and itlights me up.
But I'm also secure and I'maligned in every other area in
my life.
I'm financially secure,financially stable.
Relationships are also aligned.
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I am aligned with myself, I amhappy and my vibe is always high
.
And that's what freedomlifestyle means to me.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
Amazing, love it.
Great way to end.
Thank you so much, chloe, andthank you everyone for listening
.
Thank you, sam.
Make sure you've hit subscribeor follow in your podcast apps,
that you've never missed anepisode and, hey, maybe take an
extra minute to leave a shortlittle review in your podcast
app.
It really helps me find otherfreedom seekers who can get
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inspired and empowered by thesestories.
Thank you so much for joining us.
And she helps people achievetheir ultimate life goals.
Chloe's approach is very muchevidence-based, proven systems
and scientific data to supportthe effectiveness of this type
of work, helping her clients toovercome obstacles that keep
them stuck in life throughmanifesting and raising your
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vibe.
So in this episode we getreally specific.
We talk about Chloe's exactmanifestation formula and how
she uses this with her clients,many of them who are looking to
call in more wealth.
So we talk a little bit abouthow you can approach
manifestation and money to bringthose things together.
We also address how to actuallymeasure your vibe.
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I think raise the vibe is thrownaround a lot in settings, but
how do we even know what ourvibe is and how do we actually
raise it with very practicalsteps and tools in mind?
Something I uncoveredorganically in my conversation
with Chloe is that she has avery beautiful relationship with
her husband where they reallystrive to bring their different
(01:21):
approaches to life together andco-create and make magic
together.
Chloe follows her intuition andher feelings and her partner is
more analytical and boy could Irelate to that.
But she talked a lot about howthey've come together and really
worked on those differences andeven started to use them as a
superpower in her marriage, andhas advice on how other couples
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might approach, becoming morealigned with their partner or
having difficult conversations,so that you can discuss your
goals and how they might bedifferent, but how you can come
together and build a life thatboth of you are really excited
about.
So I love that we added that inthere.
We even address the skeptics,because I find there's nothing
more annoying than when you tellsomebody about this epic thing
(02:06):
that you just manifested andthen they poke holes at oh well,
that's a coincidence or that'snot science back, or that is woo
, woo.
And so I put Chloe on the hotseat.
Let's talk to these skeptics.
What are the limitations ofmanifesting and is there real
science and research here?
So look forward to that.
You're going to learn a lotwith no further delay.
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Here's Chloe.
Chloe, welcome to the FreedomLifestyle Podcast.
How are we feeling today?
What's the vibe going into thisinterview?
It's great.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Sam, the vibe is calm and ease and flow.
That's how I'm feeling today.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Amazing.
Okay, good, I'll try not toshake that up with your calm
demeanor and I feel it from you.
I was just talking backstagehow you've been on a little bit
of a book tour doing all thesepodcast interviews and all of
that.
So I'm really excited that ourshow has been added to your list
and I had a peek at your book,read some chapters and really
(03:03):
excited to dive into that today.
Awesome.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Ready to explore.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Where in the world are you taking today's call from
Curious?
What time it is there and whatwould you normally be doing if
you weren't on this interviewwith me?
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Actually, I'm in Seattle Washington.
I recently moved from LA and Ilove it here.
If I wasn't doing this podcast,I would probably either be
writing so I'm working onanother project right now or I
would be with a client so thatwould be either one of the two
or possibly walking my dog itdepends on you know what he's up
(03:41):
to.
He's pretty needy, so I wouldprobably be doing one of those
three things.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
LA to Seattle.
That seems like a big lifestylechange.
What was the motivation there?
Speaker 2 (03:53):
I've always wanted to live in the Pacific Northwest,
even before I was in LA.
I'm like can we just go to thePacific Northwest?
There's just this calmingenergy.
I don't know, but whenever I'min either Oregon or Washington,
I just have this calming energy.
And, of course, california isits own beautiful place and I'm
(04:13):
so grateful that I lived therefor seven years.
But the next chapter in my lifewas somewhere that was calling
in ease, flow and peace, andthat's the next chapter that I'm
in right now in my life andthat is what this is.
So I was just like ease, flowand peace, and that's the next
chapter that I'm in right now inmy life and that is what this
is.
So I was just like okay, wehave a chance to live in Seattle
, let's do it.
It was kind of random and weactually just came to Seattle
(04:36):
this was back in Christmas of 23.
Just randomly checking out thearea to see if we liked it.
We had no intentions on buying ahouse or moving and literally
three days in, we randomly justhappened to tour some houses and
we actually put an offer in ona house and we bought a house
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unexpectedly over Christmas.
It was our Christmas present.
So I'm like, okay, this is thenext chapter, because it's just
I love it.
I don't know, I just I feellike this place is magic and
it's just the next up level thatI was trying to call in and
manifest, and this is what I'vegotten.
So I'm I'm happy about that soexciting.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
I mean I'm in Vancouver, BC, or near Vancouver
, so pretty close to I'm notsure if you've just been a
little bit more North, buttotally agree the lifestyle, the
vibe, the energy, but also justthe power of changing up your
environment and how helpful thatcan be to change other aspects
of your life and up-level inother ways.
It sounds like it was a we thatyou did the move with.
(05:41):
And so what is your partner orwhoever you're traveling with?
Maybe you just mean the dog,but you know, are they on board
for a life up level?
How much alignment is there interms of thinking about
approaching life that way?
Speaker 2 (05:54):
No.
So me and my husband, we werethe ones who made the decision
and it was basically it wasabout his job, because his job
is based in LA.
So you know, we lived, we havea house in the Northern suburbs
of LA and we're like, okay, youcan use back and forth a few
times a week.
If we ever did leave, wouldthey be okay with that?
(06:16):
And that was really the bigquestion was how are we going to
make this work Right?
And he was at a place where hewanted to call in more ease and
flow.
He's in a really great position, he's in a really great company
, he does a lot of things, he'sa leader in his position and he
also is very present in his role.
But he also felt the need thathe wanted to call in more ease
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and flow.
And I think we were just at thatstage in our lives where we're
ready for the next thing and ourpeace of mind, our happiness,
calling that in is important tous and that's what Washington is
giving us.
And he was on board with it.
And I'm like, oh, wow, this isall working out, because at
first I wasn't for sure thatwhat happened or not, and when
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we pulled the trigger.
It was just like wow, like thisthing is really happening.
I was just so ready for what Ifeel right now.
I can't even explain it to you.
I haven't had the pleasure ofgoing to Vancouver or anywhere
in BC yet I'm going to do thatvery soon but it's just the
calmness of what I think the PNWbrings, and I wanted to have
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that as part of my everyday lifeIn California.
I love it, but I was just readyfor something else, and he was
as well.
So we were both aligned and Ithink having a partner that's
aligned is you need that right.
If you're not on the same page,you're not able to move forward
, and he was totally on boardwith me and I'm really grateful
(07:48):
that we're on the same page asfar as what we want, what's our
true essences, what we're tryingto call in.
We're all aligned in that rim,and that allowed us to make this
spontaneous move and make it areality.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
That's so beautiful.
I agree with so much of whatyou just said.
I honestly feel like thebiggest threat to my own
marriage is a future where we'remisaligned, where suddenly our
North star is changing andbecause we both have such growth
mindsets and are so ambitiousand our life is constantly
changing, I feel like that's abit of a threat, because when
you're changing so much, are yougoing to keep changing together
(08:26):
?
Are you going to keep aligningwith that same North Star or in
our individual pursuits ofconstantly growing?
Are we going to wake up one dayand be like, whoa, I'm a
different person than you metand now it's not going the same
way, and that does scare mesometimes.
Does that ever come up for you,you know?
Speaker 2 (08:42):
as far as like living our lives together.
There were some things in thebeginning when I was manifesting
because I'm I love to think bigright, like nothing scares me,
like even when I landed my bookdeal for this book that to me it
wasn't scary and for somepeople it's like, oh my God,
that's something that you knowit's very hard to achieve.
(09:05):
But I think for me, the waythat I think about things has
completely changed that thingsthat are not scary to me are
scary to him.
Or how did you do that?
How is that possible?
Because he's such an analyticalperson and he thinks in a very
analytical way.
And I'm completely the opposite.
I'm just more of like, I'm anintuitive, I'm creative and I go
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with how my gut feels and Idon't usually think on the
analytical stage.
And because he does, it's kindof like there was a clash of
well, how are you making thishappen?
If you didn't do X, y and Z,how is that possible?
But I think, now that he's seenthe power of how manifestation
works and how it's happened inour lives, he's more open to it.
(09:51):
But we've always been intuitiveand spiritual people.
We have always been that way.
But it is definitely it hasbeen scary because I'm like, oh
my gosh, I really want to livein Seattle, but is he able to go
right now?
And if he want to live inSeattle but is he able to go
right now, and if he's not ableto go, when is that going to
happen?
That was a thought that I hadin the back of my mind, like I
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don't want to leave this place.
You know, we went back inDecember of 23 and it's just
like what if this can't be ours?
I don't want to have a teaserof what could be, just to go
back and then the dream of thatwill be diminished.
It so happened that he was justperfectly aligned with that and
we made it work out.
(10:33):
But I think, all couples, thereare some things that you're just
never going to agree upon, soit's just better to agree or
disagree.
But I think the main coreessences are something that you
have to be aligned with, andthis is one of them, for sure,
as far as your livelihood, whereare you going to stay?
What are you going to do?
How do you want your life tounfold?
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What makes you happy?
What are the foundations?
And we're super aligned withthat and I made sure of that
early on in the relationship.
But even as we've grown aspeople, we still have those same
core foundations.
I think that doesn't reallychange a person.
But I think experiences changeyou and it depends on the kind
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of experience that you have thatmold you to become who you're
trying to be.
But also other people changeyou, people who make you feel a
certain way or make you feel away that you shouldn't feel or
how you want to feel.
They also can mold you tobecome better or worse or
stagnant.
And I'm just really blessed andI'm lucky that this guy of mine
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we're aligned in everythingthat I want us to be aligned in
and the things that I don't want, we work on those.
We talk about it.
I think communication is reallywhat people need to work on If
they feel that they're notaligned.
You have to talk about what youwant and then come to a happy
middle.
That's how it works in marriage.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
I totally agree Communication is key.
I also know that communicationcan be challenging for some
people and, not to generalize,but men do typically have less
experience talking about theirfeelings, talking about their
desires, communicating what theywant, knowing what they want
(12:22):
and like putting their heart ontheir sleeve.
And that's definitely changingand there's a lot of progress
happening.
But so much of what you sharedis similar to my own journey,
and so if someone's listening tothis and they're thinking, yeah
, we are misaligned, like I wantthis big vision for our life
and I'm not sure how toinfluence him or get him on
board or talk about it, wheneverwe try to have those
(12:42):
conversations, there's a bit ofa wall and he has trouble
expressing his feelings ortalking about that.
Is there any advice or wisdomyou could pass on to a couple
that might be feeling that wayafter hearing your amazing story
?
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Yeah, you should read my book, but no, I talk about
this in my book, untapped Magic,because a lot of people are
unaligned and they don't know ifthis person is either going to
A work out long term or, b ifthey're already fully committed,
meaning that they're in amarriage.
(13:16):
How do they know if this issomething that they want to
continue on?
And if they don't, because it'sso scary how do you have that
conversation when you think,okay, it's time for us to really
have a talk about what thefuture looks like.
Talk about what the futurelooks like, and one thing that I
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tell people who are lookingeither to find love or they're
in a relationship is does thisperson match your essences?
And what I mean by essences isthese are the core, foundational
principles that this person hasto have before you even decide.
This is your person, meaning,do they align with who you want
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them to be?
When I called in my husband, Ihad core principles.
He had to be tall.
That was number one, becauseI'm 5'9", so he definitely had
to be over 6'2" and it was anon-negotiable and obviously
number two.
I had to be attracted to him.
But, on a more serious note, Iwanted him to be a kind of
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person who, no matter whathappened if I was in a bad mood
or I was having a bad day or weweren't agreeing with something
he would love me unconditionally, without conditions, meaning he
wouldn't falter, he wouldn'tchange, his love would remain
constant.
And that's something that a lotof people struggle with,
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because if they get into anargument, they love someone less
or I don't know now you're,you're not the same or
something's changed.
They don't have thatconsistency, and I wanted him to
be able to be a kind, genuine,loyal, loving person, no matter
what, and obviously love myfamily, my friends, me.
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But I had to put down thesecore essences in order to call
him in, and I knew that I'mworthy of that, because I'm
going to give him this and more.
But I want him to also emulatewhat I'm going to be giving him.
And once I had my foundationalprinciples down, I just knew who
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was the guy and who wasn't,because they didn't align with
what I wanted them to be, andthat was what was really
important to me.
So I think if people arestruggling with alignment, you
have to ask yourself is thisperson going to stand up for you
, no matter what Are they goingto be your ride or die?
Are they going to be with youthrough thick and thin and are
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they going to love youconsistently, constantly,
without falter, no matter whathappens?
What is your core, foundationalprinciples when it comes to
love?
And if they're not, talk aboutit.
What happened to them wherethey feel that they can't do
that or they can't be that foryou?
Is that acceptable for you?
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And be honest with yourself?
I think so many of us we lie toourselves that, whatever comes
our way, we lie and say this iswhat I want, even though we know
this is not what we want.
But because we don't know orwe're afraid to actually be
truthful with ourselves, we'rejust calling in the first thing
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that walks through the door.
So for us to have alignment, wehave to number one, like I said
, know our essences and bereally intentional with what we
want in our lives and have afirm hand in saying either you
have this or you don't.
And if they don't, you knowthat they're not your person.
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If you're in a marriage alreadyand you are trying to save your
marriage, you have to askyourself is this what I want to
save?
Do I really want to be with thisperson long-term and if I do,
what can I do in order for meand this person to have a long,
lasting relationship?
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How can we both cultivate inhappiness?
What does that look like for us?
And sit down together and havethat honest conversation?
But if your partner is notwilling to do that, then it may
be a time where you can considerdoing couples counseling or
coaching or having them talk toa trusted friend to be able to
get more in tune with how theyfeel and then to come back to
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the table.
To get more in tune with howthey feel and then to come back
to the table.
But if they're not going to bewilling to do that for you, it's
time to question again yourcore values as in is this your
perfect partner or have you beenlying to yourself all this time
?
As hard as that may be, youhave to face the truth sometimes
and figure out what aligns withyou and what doesn't.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
What aligns with you and what doesn't.
Absolutely, it sounds like youmanifested your partner, that
you actually took a lot of theapproaches that you write about
in your book Untapped Magic APractical Guide to Spiritual
Awakening.
You were doing that even beforeyou wrote the book, and that's
how you called in your partner,and so maybe we should talk
about the formula that you havefor manifesting, which is
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intention plus essence equalsmanifestation.
Can you walk us through whatthat means, then, and maybe we
can workshop an example ofsomething I'm manifesting after?
That would be cool.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
All right.
So in my book I talk about that.
Intention plus the essenceequals the manifestation, and
what I mean by that is we haveto have an intention behind our
manifestation, meaning we can'tjust say I want the perfect
person or I want a milliondollars and there's no essence
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behind that.
We have to actually put in whatI call the foundational
principles, or the quality ofwhat that essence is going to
bring us.
So if we're trying to call inmore money and we want a million
dollars, well, what is themillion dollars going to provide
for us?
How are we going to manage themoney?
What do we want to feel when wehave the million dollars?
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Is it to have safety, security,generational wealth?
Is it to be able to havesustainability or to call in
ease and flow?
What is the essence behind themoney?
The same with a partner.
You want a partner.
That's great.
But what about the partner?
Should they be a certain height?
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Should they look a certain way?
How are they going to treat you, your friends, your family, if
you get into an argument?
How are they going to respondor how are they going to react?
What is their energy like?
Is it a calming energy?
You have to put down thesefoundations in order for the
intention of the manifestationto come through, because
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otherwise you're going to becalling in anything, and we
don't want that right.
We want to have the exactperson that we want to call in,
versus a random guy who we don'tfind attractive and he doesn't
have anything that we're lookingfor.
So when I talk about that, Iwant us to get crystal clear on
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what it is we're trying tomanifest.
Now, some of us we may not evenknow what we're trying to call
in.
We know we want something good,but we just don't know all the
fancy, fine details, and that'sokay.
What I want you to do in thatinstance is to then call in the
essences.
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How do you want to feel whenthat thing comes into your life
Again, if it's going to be moneyor if it's going to be a person
?
How would it feel to have amillion dollars?
How would you feel?
Feel that that is what you'regoing to attract to you?
The same with a partner.
When you're with someone, howdo they make you feel If you're
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again going through a tough time?
Are they going to be there foryou?
Are they going to be supportiveof you?
How do they uplift you and makeyou even better than what you
are right now.
You have to focus on thefeeling of what it's going to be
like to actually have that inyour life, and when you focus on
the feeling of it, that's whenthe manifestation will come to
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you, and that's what I mean byintention plus essence equals
your manifestation.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
I know you also talked about manifesting from
authentic self rather than theego in your book, so how does
that align with this and how canwe differentiate between those
two then?
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Yeah, that's a great question.
When I talk about manifestingfrom our authentic self, what
I'm talking about is manifestingas if no one's watching you.
You're in the shower, you'resinging, no one's there, you can
be as loud as you want andyou're having a good time
because no one's there to judgeyou.
When I talk about manifestingfrom the authentic self, I want
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you to manifest what you trulydesire, and not what you should
desire or what someone tells youyou need to desire, but what
you actually want.
If no one was there to judgeyou or tell you this is the way
or this isn't the way, that'sthe authentic self.
When we're manifesting from theegotistic self, to me that means
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you're manifesting from a placethat isn't authentic.
It's based upon what someoneelse has told you to do peers,
social media, your family,caretakers, friends and because
of all of these beliefs thathave built up in you, friends,
and because of all of thesebeliefs that have built up in
you, you think you should bemanifesting a certain person or
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a certain type of car or houseor money, because this is what
society has told you you shouldbe doing, but it isn't what you
authentically want.
And again, it goes back to theessence and the intention behind
it.
Meaning you have to feel whatyou want to feel like if that
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thing were real and if it was inyour life today.
Meaning how would it feel tohave everything that you want or
better right now?
What would your life look like?
How would you feel If you feelthat feeling that's going to
allow you to manifest what youwant and bring it into your life
?
Because you are telling theuniverse I want to feel like
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this.
I want to have happiness, I wantto have ease and flow and peace
.
Feeling like this right now,even though I don't have yet
what I want, I know that you'regoing to bring it to me.
It's that trust muscle with theuniverse and helping you to
manifest and bring to you whatyou're trying to call in.
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And that's how they go hand inhand and that's the difference
between when you manifestauthentically versus from your
egotistic self from youregotistic self.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Okay, that's very helpful.
I specifically like focusing onthe feeling that you want to
feel, because I feel like youand I are probably people who
have been having desires ourentire life Like we know we want
, we're going after it, we'remaking it happen.
Next, next, next, next.
I could probably ask you whatare you manifesting right now?
And you could probably give mea dozen things that you're
trying to call in, and the samegoes with me.
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But I have met some people,honestly, who are like I don't
know what my dreams are or Idon't know what I want.
I think this whole manifestingconcept is cool and I know
there's some science behind itwhich I definitely want to get
into, because there's also somecritics behind manifesting.
But even to that person who'sso intrigued by this law of
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attraction concept but doesn'teven know what to call in, what
prompt can we give to thatperson to help gain clarity on
what do I actually authenticallywant?
I'm aware society has beenputting me on a path and I'm
aware of all of this, but Istill can't tap into that
authenticity.
What's the prompt for them?
Speaker 2 (24:59):
I would tell them again to go back to your
feelings and to focus on how doyou want to feel, what lights
you up, what are your passions?
What do you enjoy doing?
It can be something as simpleas being in nature or going for
a walk, or just having that calmand ease and just that, I don't
know, just that perfectstillness about someone.
(25:22):
Right, it all depends on whatwe're trying to feel and what we
want to feel like, how we wantsomeone to make us feel, how
they can amplify how we alreadyfeel about ourselves.
So I would say for anyone who'sstruggling with manifesting
anything they don't even knowwhat to manifest how do you want
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to feel?
Do you want to wake up happy ona Monday?
Do you want to enjoy Sunday andnot worry about Monday coming
around, because you just lovethe way your life is?
Do you want to be able to justhave time and spend it with
yourself or call in a partner tohelp amplify that happiness?
What do you want to feel like?
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And once you get clear on that,that will draw you to things
that will bring you that feelingright and from there you can
take it to.
Okay, do I want to make this ahobby, or do I want to grow this
into a business or somethingmore than just a hobby?
Do I want to spend more timepainting or writing or whatever
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it is that you want to do?
That's how you can actuallymanifest things that will show
you and guide you to yourauthenticity, because I know,
with a lot of us, social mediahas dimmed our light and it's
unfortunate, but there's just somuch on social media that has
affected a lot of us, especiallymental health wise, and I want
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to tell you that, as long as youknow who you are, or you're
getting closer to knowing whoyou are, you can cultivate in
the happiness that your lifedesires and that you want to
bring in into your life.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Absolutely Okay.
So really focus on how you wantto feel and then, if you are
somebody who knows how you wantto feel but also knows you are
somebody who knows how you wantto feel but also knows that you
want, we got to make it asspecific as possible.
I've seen so many of thosememes of manifesting gone wrong
and I have so many examples ofmy own journey.
I remember for so long I wassaying I want to get paid to
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travel, I want to get paid totravel.
I want to get paid to travel.
And sure enough, I got anopportunity to be part of a
women's travel company andtravel with the organization.
And on paper it sounded sogreat and every time I would
tell people about this job I had, it would get so much
validation from the public.
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It was a very ego-driven job.
But then when I was actually onthe trips, nothing about it was
how I wanted to feel.
My nervous system was always soshot.
It was super stressful.
It wasn't the types oftraveling I wanted to do.
It was totally not aligned withthe places I wanted to go to.
And then I had to keep goingback to the places because I was
an expert in it and I was likewell, I'm getting paid to travel
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, but this is really not what Imeant, and so it is so important
that we get specific, andthat's why?
Speaker 2 (28:08):
because they'll just give you whatever you said.
You wanted to get paid totravel.
Okay, here's your travel,here's your pay.
But were you specific?
So I totally can resonate withthat.
I mean, early on in my journeyI had a similar story where I
would manifest boyfriends whowere crappy.
I mean, they looked great onpaper, they looked nice on the
outside, but on the inside theywere crap, and it was because I
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wasn't specific with the type ofpartner that I wanted.
And again, I was like ateenager, like 18, 19.
But the point is it works, butwe have to be very specific.
The point is it works, but wehave to be very specific.
And that's why it's soimportant, when you know what
you want, to write down everyminute detail, because that way,
when that thing shows up, it'sexactly what you want or it's
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greater than what you call them.
So that's super important forus to get crystal clear, if we
know exactly what we really want.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
And I love that you just said because it works,
which is a great segue into whatI want to make sure we address
today, which is like thelimitations of manifesting.
How do we address the skepticswho hear about manifesting and
poke holes at it?
What can we say to them aboutthe science or the research, or
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how confident you are fromeverything you've learned that
this really is real and law ofattraction isn't some woo-woo
thing, that's coincidental, itis proven.
Talk to them, talk to theskeptics.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
I was a skeptic.
No, I was.
I'm like this crap doesn't work.
This is ridiculous, this is awaste of my time and energy,
because I would do things thatthe books would say that I, the
movies, would tell you to dothink happy thoughts, or say
this mantra the end.
(30:02):
And that was it right.
But it wasn't the end.
That was just the tip of theiceberg.
It wasn't even a foundationalprinciple of thinking happy
thoughts, and what I had torealize was that I needed to dig
deeper and do more work toactually figure out the
foundational principles ofmanifestation, the science
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behind it, right, and once Ifigured that out, that's when it
began to work for me.
So the subconscious mind plays ahuge role in manifestation,
because this is where all of ourlong-term memories are housed.
Everything is housed there,from a baby, a child, an
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adolescent, even as a youngadult.
It's housed in the subconsciousmind and this is where our
beliefs.
They live in the subconsciousmind.
And if we have the same beliefsthat we have from a child and
we haven't changed them andthey're not doing us any good,
we have to go back and rewritethat story in order to cultivate
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and call in what we really wantto do so.
Our subconscious mind, like Imentioned it, houses our
long-term memory and ourconscious mind it houses our
awareness.
Right now we're having thisconversation, we're aware of our
surroundings right now.
That's our conscious awareness.
And when we understand how thesubconscious and the conscious
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mind works, that's afoundational principle to build
upon manifesting and havinglifelong success and not just
fly by night one time successmanifestations, because we know
how manifesting works and we cantake that and we can use that
for the better.
And in my book I talk about howthe subconscious mind works and
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how we can use it.
But quickly, to give you alittle analogy on it, what I
mean by that is if we have afear of being successful or a
fear of not having enough moneyor finding the perfect person or
keeping the perfect person orwhatever it is that we're trying
to manifest, that is simply dueto a scarcity mindset.
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There's a block that we haveand we need to be able to
unblock in that part of our life, to really call in and rewrite
that story so that we're able tolive the life that we want.
Who felt invisible or who wereunloved or whatever we had
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experienced at that time, and togo back as an observer and to
tell our younger selfeverything's going to be okay.
To give ourselves the love andcare that we need in order to
unblock our subconscious mind,to erase that belief system that
no longer serves us, and tothen write a new belief that we
want to serve in our lives goingforward and that can be I am
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safe, I am secure, I amprotected, I am loved.
Whatever we need to hear that webelieve in to be true for us.
We can then write that storyand we can tell ourselves that
this is my new life now.
From now on, I am loved, I amprotected, I am worthy, I have
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more than enough.
Everything will always work outfor me, and that becomes the
new narrative.
So for the skeptics out there,I encourage you to go back and
create foundational principlesto understand are you blocked in
a way in your life?
Did someone or something hurtyou before that you're still
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holding on to?
When you let that go, then trymanifesting again, because once
we do that and we have a newstory, we can then call in and
cultivate what we really want tohave in this world.
That's what I would say to them, because I was one of them.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Totally, and is there any data or proven research or
studies that are happening thatwe can refer people to?
Because I worry that someonewho's a skeptic basically saying
, okay, we'll try it this waythis time.
They might not even be open tothat because they don't have a
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connection between somethingthat's so intangible and the
proof that it works.
And so are there peoplestudying this?
Is there any data or truescience-backed research that
manifestation does work, thatyou've learned about or that you
know is happening?
Yes, there is.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
So there are so many studies that talk about
neuroscience and I encourageskeptics or anyone to look up
any specific study onneuroscience and neural pathways
.
Neural pathways they aresignals that basically tell our
brain something.
So if we touch the stove and weget burned and we're like, oh
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my God, that was hot, A neuralpathway basically sent a signal
from your brain to your hand andsay move your hand because it's
hot, move it out the way, right.
So what those neural pathwaysdo when we're trying to manifest
something is they rewrite newpassages, meaning that they
create, let's say, new roads inour mind for us to have new ways
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of thinking.
That way we can cultivate newways of manifesting and then
eliminate the ones that nolonger serve us.
There is so much research onthis.
If you Google neural pathways,if you Google manifestation data
points, you will find studiesthat will provide you with
information that it has beenproven to work.
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So there's definitely studiesout there.
We just have to be proactiveand want to dig deeper and
research on how we can figureout what works for us and then
what may not work for us,because manifestation it isn't a
one size fit all right, it'sgoing to be tailored to how we
accept information, how weprocess information and, based
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upon that, what may work forsomeone may not work for someone
else.
It's best to understand whatworks for us and then use that
to help us create the life thatwe want to live.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Absolutely Okay, great examples, and I will also
mention Joe Dispenza is somebodythat I've really followed.
His book breaking the habit ofbeing yourself is so science
backed and really talks aboutwhat you're saying, like neural
pathways and these signals thatwe send to our brain, and how
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real and proven all of this is.
So I doubt you're listening tothis if you are a skeptic and
you saw manifesting in the title, but I bet you're somebody who
has people in your life thatwhen you bring them the joy of
manifesting and how amazing thisis and how it's working, you
have those people poking holesat it, because that is my
experience.
(37:08):
And so there you have it.
Now we have some answers andways that you can defend
something that is so powerfuland real for you that I
personally find when people takeit down a notch and make me
question it, it kind of likeloses its power, which is my own
journey to work through.
But I think it was great that wecan give some examples.
So a couple more questions.
(37:29):
I know we're almost at time,but something that you talk
about in the book is theimportance of keeping our
vibration high, regardless ofour current circumstances, and
we hear this thrown around a lotabout raising your vibe, and
this is how you raise your vibe.
How do we even know what levelour vibe is at right now?
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Is there anything that we cando to kind of measure our
current vibrational frequency?
And then let's talk about howwe can actually do it and what
you share in the book.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
Yeah.
So in order for us to check ourvibe right now, it's just
simply asking how do you feel?
How do you feel right now Onone being really bad, three
being oh, whatever, I'm okay, tofive being static how are you
feeling?
And that's how you can measureyour wavelength and how you're
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able to attract or manifestsomething.
When you're feeling really,really good, people can feel
that because you're emittingyour energy to other people and
they're attracted to that.
You attract more people.
When you're feeling crappy,you're not really in a good mood
, people are like, oh, are youokay, are you doing okay today?
And that's because you'reemitting that energy.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
I hate that, when someone says that to me, of
being like are you okay?
Like it seems like there'ssomething wrong, and then I'm
just like, oh, I'm like puttingit out there, I'm showing people
, but it is so true, people canreally feel that energy.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Yeah, I mean your spouse can feel it.
You can be in the other room.
They're like what's going on,you know?
So people can feel the energy.
It's your facial expression,it's the way that you move, it's
just your aura.
So if you're wanting to raiseyour vibe something that I do if
I'm not feeling my best, I goback to my mantras.
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This is where they come intohandy and I go back to them and
I read them and I think abouteverything that I've manifested
in my life and how my life isthe way it is today, based upon
every single thing that I havedone up until this point.
This is my life now, and once Ithink about everything I have,
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how grateful I am for my life,it obliviates even a thousand
negative thoughts, because onepositive thought has that much
power over negativity.
And we can raise our vibes bygoing back to mantras.
I have them sprinkled all overmy book because I want people to
know that how you feel aboutyourself, how you think about
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yourself, it affects your lifeand I want people to raise their
vibe.
But if you're feeling low, youcan increase your vibe by saying
something such as everythingwill always work out for me.
I will get through this.
I am worthy, I am deserving andknow that whenever it's raining
, the sun will always come out.
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Whenever there is an ebb inyour life, whenever there's a
drought, there's always a flowon the horizon.
You're never going to be stuckin a negative situation.
Unless you allow yourself tolinger there.
You will always have a way toget out.
And once people believe that,and once I believe that, my life
changed, my mantra now iseverything always works out for
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me and it always does, because Ibelieve that to be true and
that's a part of my subconsciousimprint where it is true for me
in my life that everything willalways work out for me, in
order for us to know if we'rereally far away from a
manifestation, if it feels likeit's just so far away, it means
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that that thing that you'retrying to call in is on a much
higher vibrational frequencylevel than where you are right
now, and what that means is youstill have work to do Now.
This could be calling in a bookdeal.
This could be a new career.
This could be a move across.
Book deal, this could be a newcareer.
This could be a move across thecountry.
This can be anything, and if itfeels so far away you're not
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there yet, it means you stillhave to do aligned, actionable
steps to get there.
That can mean raising your vibeas well, but also putting in
the work to get to where youwant to go, because we do have
to do the work to get there.
We can't just think aboutthings all day long.
We actually have to do the workto achieve the goal in this
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life.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
That's a good reminder.
Action is part of all of thisreally setting things in motion,
understanding like the law ofchange and how that even works
in the physics behind that.
You kind of have to sometimestake the first step or takes
that next step to let theuniverse and the world know that
you are ready for this and thatyou're moving towards that.
So really glad we touched onthat.
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I am going to include a link tountapped magic in the show
notes for this.
So please, everyone, definitelygo check out Chloe's book.
It sounds like there's so muchgoodness in there for us to view
and to take in, regardless ofwhether you're a seasoned
manifester or you're completelynew to this.
I think there's something inthis book for everybody.
So we'll definitely includethat.
(42:37):
Chloe, my final question foryou.
The show is called the FreedomLifestyle.
I'm so happy that you weredrawn to being featured as a
guest here and you said yes tothis opportunity.
How does the term freedomlifestyle resonate with you?
We can close off there.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
Yeah, freedom lifestyle.
For me, it means being able todo whatever I want to do
whenever I want to do it, and itlights me up.
But I'm also secure and I'maligned in every other area in
my life.
I'm financially secure,financially stable.
Relationships are also aligned.
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I am aligned with myself, I amhappy and my vibe is always high
.
And that's what freedomlifestyle means to me.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
Amazing, love it.
Great way to end.
Thank you so much, chloe, andthank you everyone for listening
.
Thank you, sam.
Make sure you've hit subscribeor follow in your podcast apps,
that you've never missed anepisode and, hey, maybe take an
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app.
It really helps me find otherfreedom seekers who can get
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inspired and empowered by thesestories.
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