February 22, 2024 • 43 mins
There's ways of getting to that next level you're not necessarily thinking of
Unlocking the mysteries of the subconscious mind and safe guarding ourselves against commonly used, unethical NLP schemes. Brittany has a master certification in Neuro-Linguistic programming (NLP), hypnosis, EFT Tapping, timeline therapy and mindset coaching and is the Founder of Be Free Mindset.
She shares the subtle, yet impactful, decisions that shape our lives
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Key Takeaways
- practical applications of NLP and the power of non-verbal cues (only 7% of our communication is verbal)
- ethical implications of these powerful techniques, especially in fields like sales and politics
- women's brain have more white matter than men (what this means for us)
- how quickly can we see results from NLP coaching?
- NLP actionable tactics: thought catching, fun lists, anchoring emotions
- how Brittany's diagnosis of Chron's disease led her to entrepreneurship
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Sam Laliberte - entrepreneur, digital nomad and freedom seeker, hosts the Freedom Lifestyle Podcast to expose people to the many ways you can design your dream life and unlock your own version of the freedom lifestyle. Her guests have empowered themselves through flexible work as a way to “have it all” - financial, location AND schedule freedom.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hello Freedom Seekers .
Today you are going to meetBrittany, who is the founder of
Be Free Mindset.
She has a master certificationin several modalities through
her coaching business, includingneuro-linguistic programming.
You may have heard of NLP,hypnosis, eft, tapping, timeline
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therapy and mindset coaching.
She uses these differenttechniques to really guide and
mentor her clients, helps themneutralize negative emotions and
disempowering beliefs,reprogram your subconscious
thought patterns and bettercommunicate with not only
yourself but others.
And so it would be a mistake ifI didn't spend a lot of time in
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this episode reallyunderstanding and unpacking what
NLP is, why we should be payingattention to this,
understanding what exactly it isat our subconscious level that
could be preventing us fromunlocking our next level of
success.
We talked about even some ofthe ethics around this, because
you may have heard of NLP beingused by salespeople, by
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politicians, as a way tomanipulate others, because it
really is that powerful.
Brittany shared with me so manymind-blowing facts about NLP
that really shocked me and willprobably shock you.
So, even if you're like Sam,I'm good.
I have unlocked everything Iwant to unlock.
(01:27):
I have leveled up to my maximumlevel.
I don't need any of this.
You should at least know whatNLP is so that you're not a
victim of its potentialmanipulation.
But, of course, brittany isusing NLP for good, helping us
think about how we can use thesemodalities to help us as
business owners, to help us aspartners in romantic
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Here is Brittany.
Brittany, welcome to theFreedom Lifestyle podcast.
How is your day going so far?
Where are you?
(03:14):
What are you?
Speaker 2 (03:14):
up to.
Thanks, sam, I appreciate youhaving me here.
Yeah, I'm just outside inToronto, in Pickering.
Actually it is a little bitsnowy and rainy over here, so
just in my cozies, having a cupof hot chocolate ready to chat
with you, I'm excited.
So thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Amazing.
Yeah, we're having a majorsnowstorm on the West Coast of
Canada as well.
I usually record in my office,but I'm recording downstairs in
the kitchen, much bigger openspace.
Not exactly podcast etiquette,but it's just so wild and windy
out there, so cozy vibes.
What would you normally bedoing right now if you weren't
(03:50):
on a podcast interview with?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
me Probably doing some deep work.
Usually, I've actually set mytimeframes or chunks of time for
work.
This is actually prime time forme.
Two to four is one of thosetimeframes that I'm just on and
can do deep focus work.
And you've had your businessnow for how long?
Speaker 1 (04:08):
So I started my business in 2019, so a little
more than four years, and one ofthe areas of your business is
coaching, helping people withtheir mindset, helping people
incorporate different modalitiesto serve them in their business
, and one of those areas ofexpertise is NLP.
So for somebody who's neverheard of NLP, or like has heard
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of it but isn't only sure ifthey really know what it means,
can you explain it in thesimplest terms as well as you
know?
What does the acronym evenstand for?
Speaker 2 (04:37):
So NLP stands for Neuro Linguistic Programming and
I like to basically refer to itas like the user's manual for
the subconscious mind, becauseit's like the easiest way to
understand it.
Think of like a filing cabinetwith all of your stored you know
, belief systems, things thatyou do on autopilot, the way you
communicate, the way youstrategize, the way you make
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decisions, like all of thethings.
But if we break it down kind ofeven further than that and like
into three words of like neuro,linguistic and programming,
neuro is basically referring toanything related to the mind, so
that mind body connection,that's kind of the focus there.
And then linguistics is likeall of the verbal communication
tones, physiology, how thatdictates the way that you
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perform or, you know, achieveyour goals or outcomes.
And then the programming isliterally like our pattern,
belief system, our values, ouridentity, who we are.
So all of that is basicallystored in a little filing
cabinet inside our minds.
That's kind of NLP in that job.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
And so these parts that are filed away like they're
inside all of us, and it's moreabout whether we're opening the
filing cabinet and actuallygoing through the files and
intentionally using it isexactly yeah, so it's everything
that we do is like almost onautopilot.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
like 95% of the behaviors that we actually do on
a regular basis, like day today, are autopilot behaviors, if
you think of like waking up inthe morning and going and
brushing your teeth, even juststepping out of your bed and
then going to the bathroom doingyour thing, having a routine,
like you're not consciouslythinking of any of that.
So all of these like processes,routines, things that you're
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doing are all basically storedaway and you're constantly doing
these repetitive behaviors.
But with NLP you're kind ofallowing yourself to tap into
the subconscious and unlockanything that you actually want
to change or repatter or rewireor like new integrations and new
learnings that you want totweak or improve, make better.
So a lot of the work that I dowith clients is literally
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tapping into their subconsciousmind to help them build better
lives for themselves and elevateand grow in their life, their
business, their relationships,whatever the area may be.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
And so when someone's coming to you, do they
typically have something aboutthemselves that they want to
change?
Where they're like, I'veidentified the exact issue.
Please, how can I stop doingthis on autopilot?
Or is it more ambiguous?
Where they're coming to you andthey're like, I just can't
really identify it, but I'm nothaving the results I want, what
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are you seeing most common interms of our awareness of the
issues that are preventing usfrom having what we want?
Speaker 2 (07:13):
So I would say like 80, 90% of people don't know
what the exact issue is, butthat is, I guess, my superpower.
And coming in and seeing thatbig picture of you for someone
right, like seeing, okay, youhave this roadblock, or you feel
really stuck or you feel reallyunhappy, or you know you want
this level of freedom in yourlife that you just can't seem to
get to.
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And so that's where we kind ofdig into the process of even
like questioning.
Questioning is a large part ofNLP as well, like that's the
training that goes into, that isasking the tough questions and
getting really curious.
And so I think largely it's measking a lot of questions to
trying to unpack what it isthat's actually keeping somebody
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stuck, because it's a lot ofsurface area type of like
bandaid type solutions thatthey're thinking of.
We haven't like cracked thatlayer and gone a little bit
deeper to see, okay, well, maybeit is something else that is
impacting this and that youhaven't necessarily thought of
before.
So, yeah, I think I think thatkind of answers your question.
It's not necessarily presentedlike surface level and someone's
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like yes, this is my issue, howdo we change this?
But in working together, evenif it's just like a single
session.
We can usually unpack, likemaybe there's a little bit of
procrastination orself-sabotaging tendencies or
maybe there's some perfectionismthere, and they're like, oh, I
don't know, I don't think so andI'm like, are you sure?
Like let's unpack it a littlebit, let's get honest with
ourselves.
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It's like open up the book andlike make that awareness
something that, like is not oddor strange or weird or abnormal,
like let's normalize it.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
So yeah, that's part of that process, so sometimes
you can see results in a singlesession.
That's incredible.
That was a question I was goingto ask is how quickly does
someone typically see resultsfrom specifically NLP work, and
so I'd love for you to elaborateon that as well.
As what are you looking for inthese conversations?
What types of cues, what typesof indicators are you watching
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out for in your client to reallyhelp them identify what?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
their blocker is in a single session, for example,
and I mean normally we worktogether for an extended period
of time, but I think it's thatsingle session that somebody
needs to see the results.
Or even just like a workshopthat I host or something you
know, just coming in contactwith me and being like, wow,
like I would have never askedmyself that question, which
would have never opened up orunlocked that information that,
like, I was storing inside of meor suppressing, or these
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emotions that are coming up tothe service, or, oh my God, I'm
crying and like why am I crying?
And I'm like that's okay, it'snot a big deal, let's like,
let's unpack that.
Virtual Kinects here you go,exactly so I think that
sometimes people just they don'thave the space to fully explore
that, and so, like me, allowingthat space and that time and
energy to fully hear somebodyout and really ask me those
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tough, tough questions, can helpthem elaborate and, like, have
their own little minibreakthroughs, because the
changes are small tweaks.
They're not like these crazyelaborate things that are going
to happen necessarily overnight,but with a little bit of like
tweak modification.
You know, seeing what ourdecision strategies are like,
for example, like you know,people come to me and they're
like I don't know why I'm likeso indecisive with making
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decisions and it seems like sucha small thing, but it's
impacting the romanticrelationships, their ability to
apply for, like jobs, just likeany small decision seems like
this big, overwhelming thing,and so we have to kind of chunk
it up in NLP is what we call itwhat's the higher intention of
what you are trying toaccomplish?
And let's see how we can getthere in small tweaks and steps
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and action steps that are goingto help you make these decisions
faster or anchor you in abetter emotional state, for
example, when you're going forthwith certain big decisions or,
you know, motivating yourself todo some work or whatever the
path may be for that period oftime.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
So a big part of it is just even creating the space
to have the conversations, to beasked, the questions, to force
yourself to answer the questions.
That would unlock theseinsights, these aha moments
where you identify.
Okay, this is something I needto change.
But then what?
Can you give us an example ofsome homework you might give to?
Speaker 2 (11:13):
one of your clients.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Do we take action Like what does it look like to
now be like okay, know what itis yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
So like I always give home play to clients and like
sometimes it's actually reallyfun stuff that they just haven't
done.
So I'll say like, for example,for like an initial session,
I'll say let's go and make a funlist, so all the things that
you want to be doing that youhaven't been doing.
Usually people aren't askedthat question like what am I not
doing that I want to be doing?
That's one like very simplequestion and they're like oh
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well, like I should beexercising.
It's like I'm not, I should.
What do you want to be doingthat you're not doing?
And if you're shitting yourself, that's not a good thing either
.
Right, like it's something thatyou want to be doing, that's
fun.
That's why I'm called the funlist.
So that's like a very simpleexercise that I have people do.
The other thing is thoughtcatching.
So this is a big one.
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I'll have them write downthoughts that they're having
repetitively and basically marka tip like have a tick mark next
to how many times that thoughtcomes up and then we go through
and before the next session thatwe have, I have them kind of
like write out a phrase like,even though I feel like whatever
it is, like I'm not worthy ofthis relationship that I'm in.
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I know that I'm working towardsthis, this and that, so it's
just changing, like flipping thescript.
We're literally flipping thescript on the thoughts in our
mind and writing them down onpaper so that we can actually
read how crazy sometimes thesethings sound when they're in our
heads.
Right, and that's constantlysomething that's being
repetitive and repeatedly saidin your own mind, right?
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So getting it out on paper,yeah, thought catching is one of
fun lists.
And then there's like variousother ones in terms of like
anchoring yourself in a moment.
So I have a physical activitywhich the audience can't see
right now, but basically it'swhen you're feeling a specific
emotion that's like a high, highemotion, like you know,
confidence or happiness or joy,or like pure bless, in the
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moment it's anchoring in thatocean using some hand gesture.
So I always make clients dothat when they are experiencing
something for the first time ormaybe something that they're
really like grateful for.
So, yeah, these are all kind oflike little tidbits of throwing
NLP into their daily life thatcan help them elevate.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Okay, I love a good activity, I love homework, it's
great to have a great chat, butthen so many people want to be
in that action.
How can I feel empowered inthis?
What can I do in between oursessions and in between our
calls to make sure that thatsubconscious behavior is
behaving in a way that I want itto behave?
On your stories yesterday youwere talking about the
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importance of our environmentand actually changing our
mindset.
So can you talk about theexternal reality and what we
might need to have to change inorder to impact our internal
reality that the everyday personcould change?
Right, because there's a lot ofthings that maybe I could
change but I can't changetomorrow.
Maybe I can't necessarily quitmy job tomorrow or end this
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relationship tomorrow.
Maybe I should, I don't know,but talk to us about the
external environment and youradvice around that.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
So one of like the logical levels of change
basically is the like lowestlevel is environment, and it is
actually one of the easiestthings you know to change your
physical environment, becausethat's something that you
actually have control of andthat's a conscious like piece of
your awareness basically, right, like who you surround yourself
with, who you're talking to ona daily basis, who you're
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working with.
That sort of thing all has somelevel of control, and so we can
only move in the direction ofactually working on things that
we can control in our lives and,above that, in order to change
the higher levels of thatlogical like pyramid, which are
like identity and values andbeliefs, that is all
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foundationally rooted on thatground level of your environment
, who you're surroundingyourself with.
And so, even just like settingup things like boundaries are
really important, because that'ssomething that you can control
right, and you can removeyourself from a situation if
this specific event happens orif there's a consequence that
you need to actually be up frontabout and kind of like act on.
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And so the environment is atough one, because it's even
something that, like we struggleto know whether we are in the
right environment or not, and Ithink this has a lot to do with
how you're feeling as well.
I know, for like for myself,even in my work environments in
the past, I just felt burnt out,I felt overwhelmed, I felt
tired, exhausted, like my body,everything in my body is telling
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me this isn't the right placeto be.
Did I know that, like I wasgoing to start my business or,
you know, move in a completelydifferent trajectory in my life
than in what I'm in now?
I had no idea, but I did knowthat I need to remove myself
from specific scenarios andsituations and build up the
courage to do that.
So that included, you know,relationships.
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They included toxic workenvironments and included
friendships that you know.
I had to physically just say outloud to myself and actually
give myself permission to say itout loud to me that I'm not
surrounding myself with thepeople who are actually lifting
me up or going to make me betteror help me grow or challenge me
.
And so I think those are somequestions that you can kind of
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ask yourself today.
Like, if you're listening tothis it's are you feeling that
nudged to change or shift, orsomething in you making you feel
like you need to move, you needto switch up your environment,
and this can also be done inreally small ways too, like
decluttering your apartment oryour home, like remove things
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that aren't serving you, donateitems that you aren't using,
like it starts with some reallysmall adjustments and tweaks and
then, once you get really goodat that, the big things don't
seem as heavily like, they don'tweigh as heavily on your chest.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Basically, I love all of this.
I think that I'm somebody whohas always been really well
connected to my own feelings.
I'm able to label my feelings.
I'm able to use my feelings toguide my decision making.
You could ask me how I'mfeeling right now and I could in
detail describe it not togeneralize, but I find women are
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a bit better at doing that.
I have a husband who is veryinto growth, personal
development, wanting to change,wanting to get coaching.
He does not let his feelingsdrive his decision making and
sometimes I don't even know ifhe knows what he's feeling.
Like I've been really pushingback sometimes I'm like describe
what you're feeling right now.
And he was like I don't know.
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I never like talked about myfeelings growing up or it wasn't
like a big part of how I've ledmy life.
Do you ever have clients orlike that.
They're like I don't know whatI'm feeling.
What should I be feeling?
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Yes, absolutely Like.
Again, similar to you, I canpinpoint that really easily in
my body.
I'm like oh my God, mystomach's off the chains right
now.
Like I know that I'm likeanxious or nervous, or you know,
there's this excitement,there's these butterflies.
I know what a feeling in mybody represents as an emotion.
Most people don't make thatconnection and we've almost been
like conditioned that way in asense, with like just modern
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medicine and the way that youconnect with yourselves.
We've like dissociated the mindand like your body as two
separate things and like youhandle them separately.
And so that's why when peopleare asked the question, okay,
like how are you today?
And they're like describingwhat they did, and you're like
no, no, no, how are you?
What are you feeling?
And with some of my clientsthey can't put that into
physical words, and so it's moreof like, okay, how is it
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showing up in your body?
Like they can feel maybetightness in their chest, or
they're like yeah, I justthere's some like moodiness or I
did.
They can describe it as actionsthat they've taken throughout
the day.
And so I kind of shift thenarrative of like, okay, how was
yesterday?
And compare to today how do youfeel in a sense of like you
know your productivity or yourability to think clearly, or do
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you feel more energized or areyou tired.
I'm having to give them a few ofthe like descriptive emotions
and they're like, yeah, I'mfeeling like that or no, that's
not how I'm feeling right now.
We're like I don't know.
Like right now I don't know.
So it's kind of like gettingpeople out of their heads to and
into their bodies and that'slike largely a part of just
uncovering a lot more aboutyourself and dating a little bit
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deeper and having the abilityto be vulnerable.
And it's funny that you touch on, like the difference between
men and women, because so I'vedone a lot of like intuitive
work too right, and so when youwere very connected to your body
and women, you know we havethat maternal sense for very
giving like in general and it'sactually related to your brain.
So we actually, as women, havemore white matter in our brains
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so we can actually go from logicto intuition a lot faster
because that like roadway ofwhite matter in our purpose
callisum of our brain is larger,larger surface area.
Men have a smaller surface areaso they can't go from logic to
intuition as quickly likefeelings to you know reality,
feelings to reality, over andover.
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Like we can do that prettyquickly, even in like a simple
conversation with somebody, butthey really need a little bit
more time to kind of deeplyreflect on things like that.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
So very cool.
I love facts like that.
Is there anything else you canshare with us?
That's, you know, maybe mindblowing that you learned about
NLP in your certificationprocessor and your research that
likely we haven't heard beforethat if we did, we're like, oh
wow, that is pretty crazy.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Yeah, well, I think like one fact that a lot of
people don't know is about likeour communication.
So only 7% of our communicationis actually verbal.
38% of it is our tone and 55%it's our physiology.
So a lot can be said about justyou sitting in a room with a
few people.
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Like you are conveying amessage with your body language
alone, even if you think aboutlike somebody talking to you and
how you feel energetically intheir presence, like their tone
of voice is conveying a lot anda deeper message.
And so I think also with, likevery highly sensitive
Individuals, this is a lot moreapparent.
Like if you feel like you'remore of a feeler, I would say
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more in touch with your emotions, like you can pick up on
people's tone, I would say evenin conversations, and like you
might experience this too withyour partner, right, like if
something is said in a certainway, you're like I don't know,
like what was that kind of tone?
Like you pick up on it and youeither choose to let it go and,
you know, move along, or you'relike I think something's up,
like let's, let's get into it.
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Like what's going on, what?
Like asking immediately.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Yeah, he hates it.
He's like I can't get anythingpast you, like he'll just say
something and even just look inthe eye I'm like what was that?
So what do you mean?
And then all of a sudden hestarts blushing.
I was like, well, now you'reblushing first falls your eyes
twitched.
Just say it.
Just say I don't want to say it.
I'm like, just say it.
You have something to say?
Just say it.
Yeah, love that.
That's so, so true.
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I've heard of sales peopleincorporating NLP Because of the
communication power and becauseof what you can learn about
that, and some people have mayberaised some concerns about
ethical considerations.
I'm curious what is your takeon that?
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Yeah.
So I mean, like anything else,nlp can be used for good or it
can be used for unethical andmoral Purposes.
It's using everything,literally.
Nlp is used by marketers,politicians, people in every
industry, and you don't realizethat it's being used until
you've learned a little bit moreabout it.
So communication, tone,language, patterns, strategic
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ways of like, you know,displaying a specific product,
or you know buyer psychologyit's all related to NLP as well,
and so you can use it in a very, you know, compassionate, good,
ethical way, which is the waythat we choose to use it as
coaches, you know, really tolike help unlock facial cutie
and really understand howsomebody's feeling and really
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read between the lines, and sothat is like one of the benefits
of using it.
But it can absolutely be usedin ways that are not beneficial
for everyone or in like Fly meunethical ways, which I
obviously don't agree with.
But you know, once theinformation is out there, people
can use it as they wish andchoose to benefit financially or
in whatever way that theydesire.
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So I can't remember what thevideo is called, but it's like a
video based on touch.
So, because people know thatthey're very sensitive to touch,
think of going into a storewhen you buy something.
There's some people who need tofeel the product, that you feel
that cash from your sweater.
There's other people that canlook at it online and be like,
oh yeah, that's my want.
So some people are more proneto making decisions or emotional
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choices If you know there'sphysical touch involved.
You think of like, intimacy andthat sort of thing.
Manipulation can be used in thatway a lot, right.
So if you're thinking of like,even employers, or sliming, like
slime buckets to you know, usethat kind of manipulation with
people, like that is a thing.
And so even physical touch oflike holding someone, touching
someone, patting someone on theshoulder, whatever it is that
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can actually exhibit a specificreaction from somebody.
And if you know intentionallythat you're using that for that
reason, I mean that's immoraland unethical and I don't agree
with that.
Does everybody know thatthey're doing that?
Or is it sometimes more of anintuitive thing that you're in a
partnership?
You go to hug someone.
That's not necessarily using anLP to your like advantage, it's
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just you know you're wanting tobe comforting to someone.
But yeah, it can be used inthose kind of ways too.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Well, there's something to be said when your
partner just comes over to youwhen you're working and almost
then use rubbing your shouldersout of nowhere, and seconds
later there's a special requestbeing made.
So it sounds like Whether wewant to be using an LP for our
own personal development or wejust want to be aware that this
exists in that or maybe notvictims of how it could be used
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against us seems like a good useof our time.
So thanks for explaining andbreaking so much of that down
for us.
I know you also have a prettyincredible story of your own
personal transformation and Iwant to make sure we get into
that, because the life you'reliving now started with you
making some drastic changesyourself quitting your job and
not having any back-up plan, noteven having a plan for how you
(25:12):
were going to make money next.
So paint a picture about whatwas going on in your life then,
and then I want to get into howyou were able to do that without
a safety net.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Yes, gosh, a lot of like resilience and courage, I
would say, for something likeeasy to leave your job.
But basically I think it stemsback to, you know, a few years
ago.
So this was before I started mybusiness.
I was going through like areally rough time.
I was in a relationship that Iwas like completely dissatisfied
and unhappy with.
There was just like thismissing piece and I just felt
(25:42):
like I wanted more the job, thatI was in very toxic environment
and I was like hustling andslaving and just, you know,
exhausted and then also like myhealth was on a decline.
So I actually have pronedisease.
So I was diagnosed with thiswhen I was 18 and that time in
my life I actually had to dropout of university when I was
diagnosed because it was bad.
It was at the point where I hadto be hospitalized, went
(26:04):
through surgery, had like alarge chunk of my intestine.
It was a whole thing.
So I think a lot of that alsoshaped my ability to be very
resilient and like make acomeback and just focus on
myself, also have that intuitiveability of like reading my body
, doing my own body scan, seeinghow I'm feeling and being open
about talking about things likethat and being vulnerable.
(26:26):
So that health flare wasbasically coming back in 2019
and I knew it was like stressrelated.
Like obviously I'm unhappy.
I'm in a relationship.
I'm not, you know, thriving inmy work relationship is not
really good Like it was anoverall, like I want to call it
like quarter of a century, likemidlife crisis type thing.
I was what was I like 2029 atthe time and I just remember
(26:48):
sitting there and being like Icannot let the next decade of my
life be the same as this decade.
Like I was started Like wasstarted asking myself the tough
questions.
I was like what do I even wantto be remembered for in this
lifetime?
I want to leave some sort oflegacy and I want to be happy
doing it and I want to feelpurposeful and driven and
motivated and like I just wantto have all this freedom in my
(27:10):
life that I'm looking for.
That I didn't have at the time,so quit my job.
Very difficult, I was living inmy parents basement.
You know it was a whole thing.
It was fine.
Like I was happy to besurrounded by people who were
supporting me in that moment,which was a big deal.
Like the support system is huge.
I removed myself from that longdistance relationship and it was
after four and a half years.
So you know, there was a lot oflike race that I had to process
(27:33):
during that time and reallyunderstand like myself and I
realized like I don't reallyknow who I was at that time in
my life.
I was doing a lot of peoplepleasing, I was stressed out, I
was bringing myself out.
So, yeah, left all of that andI was in the hospital for a
couple weeks and then, once Igot out, I was like, okay, now's
my time, I'm just going tofocus on me.
And so that's when I reallylike flip the switch on my
(27:56):
personal development, makingthat a priority.
I hired my own coach at the timebecause I was so uncertain
about, like, my career direction, where I wanted to be, what I
wanted to do, and so I justthought, like when am I ever
going to have this much time formyself when I can invest in
myself and be able tofinancially but also have the
genuine time to like do the workand take the time to express
(28:21):
how I'm feeling to somebody elseand have that unbiased support
because, as much as, like, yourfamily and friends are there for
you.
There's still things that youdon't want to kind of Unleash
and like unlock to your parents.
So at the time I remember myparents like I had said, like
yeah, I spent, like I don't knowwhat it was like five thousand
dollars on a couch.
You feel like I remember my dadjust being like are you out of
(28:45):
your mind?
Speaker 1 (28:46):
I knew you'd never job.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Are you know?
Yeah, I mean I had savings,which is why I felt like, okay,
I can probably do this, but likeit wasn't like massive amounts
of savings, I'm still like Ineed to figure out what I need
to do.
And so he's like, are you crazy?
Like what the heck?
And Anyways, they just thoughtI was like insane and I was like
no, no, like trust me, there issomething in me that's telling
me I need to do this, need tofocus on myself, and so working
(29:08):
with her Literally unlocked thislike fire inside me to really
work on my self-confidence andmyself belief and Really dive
into the things that I was goodat and understand, like how to
piece together Like what I'mreally good at, what I love to
do, what makes me happy, andlike have that be something that
(29:28):
Is constantly in the back of mymind when I'm looking for a job
or creating that lifestyle formyself, moving forward.
And so that's when I kind ofpiece together the fact that,
like I've always been intopsychology, mindset, literally,
like my electives in universitywere always that stuff right,
like languages and learning, orlike psychology of normal
psychology, the mind, body ThenI'm like, okay, it was diagnosed
(29:50):
with Crohn's disease more intune with my body.
What's going on?
So it's like how can I use allof this?
I'm just trying to like piecetogether all of these skills.
And so that's when I actuallystarted B3 mindset, because I
was like I have so many friends,people that come to me for
advice, and as much as it seemscrazy to like go into this
coaching world and not reallyknow much about it, I felt like
(30:12):
I was like destined to do thatand so, yeah, and then that
really built into takingcertifications, doing nervous
system regulation work, clinicalbreath work, emotional freedom,
techniques of tapping, and I'llbe all of these things.
I'm just like trickled into myworld, integrating the parts of
myself that were like part ofyou wants to take this nine to
five, continue to sign to five,and then part of you wants to
(30:33):
take your business further andlike how can we mesh those two
together and see where, like,the biggest ripple of packed and
the most happiness and joy canbe built in your life through
making one decision?
Speaker 1 (30:46):
And so that's where we are today.
Well, I'm so happy for you.
It's amazing that you were ableto connect all those dots and
have all of those differentexperiences in your life.
I'll accumulate into Teeing youup and preparing you for where
you are now, which is yourhappiest life to date.
I mean a lot of people say therewas nothing like childhood, but
I don't know.
(31:06):
I think my 30s, with money,with confidence in myself, with
some security, I would take thatover being a kid I would.
So a couple questions that Iwant to ask about your journey.
One is you invested in a coachin this process.
So what type of coaching wereyou getting that helps you
connect these dots and identifythat Coaching was actually where
(31:27):
you wanted to go?
Speaker 2 (31:27):
next, yeah, so at the time that she, amanda was her
name, she was actually a coachfor career development, but also
like life coaching.
So she did a little bit of both,which I found to be extremely
Beneficial, because not only arepeople who are looking for
coaching in like the careerAspect looking just for that,
(31:48):
they're actually looking forlike support and like building
their confidence.
You know, even just in buildingyour own resume or being able to
talk about yourself, you needto have clarity in what you want
in your life, and so sheoffered me a lot of that
perspective, or like activitiesand the ability to like Untap or
unlock that actual basically,and so that was like what I
(32:08):
needed at the time and so that'swhat.
Even in my work, when I'm goingto help people out and we're
looking at things like fromsurface level, like we haven't
even scratched the surface,basically I'm asking them, like
okay, what are your biggestgoals and dreams that you've had
that seem completely out ofreach?
Because they're not and you canget there and maybe you're just
(32:29):
not seeing the path, and that'swhy I'm here to kind of help
you lead that way into clarityand focus and motivation and
productivity, so that you arethen building the life that you
really want in a way, you'rekind of paying it forward.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Somebody helped you with the life coaching, the
clarity, the career Insights interms of what path you want to
go on, and now you're doing thatfor others, and so it was a mix
of like life coaching, careercoaching.
Those are kind of like theterms you were.
Were you searching for, or didAmanda find you?
Speaker 2 (32:59):
I think I was following Amanda on Instagram
for quite a while, so it's notlike I even really knew what she
was doing for a long time untilI was actually looking for it
and then her stuff was poppingup and I was like, oh okay, like
what is this all about?
And like the thing was shewasn't that much further ahead
in her life Then I was at thattime like she was just just
getting out of her nine to fiveand just like Making this life
(33:22):
for herself as well, and sothat's another thing.
I think like you don't reallyhave to.
If you need support ormentorship or guidance, you
don't need to be looking forsomeone who's like already has
like a million things that youwant or is that like the
pinnacle of their Success or youknow that road map that they're
looking to go on.
It's really just looking forsomeone who is a few steps ahead
(33:42):
of you so that you can leaninto their mentorship and Some
of their advice and really helphave them.
Help you kind of open your eyesto what you're missing out on
and missing pieces that can helpyou move forward.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
That's super helpful.
Another thing I wanted to askabout is your ability to really
invest in yourself, becausewe've talked a little bit about
Women and men and thedifferences, and another thing I
do notice is women have more ofa challenge investing in
themselves financially,especially these big-ticket
investments, these four or fivefigure type investments, and
(34:16):
you've been doing this.
Not only did you invest in yourcoach, but you also invested
almost another ten thousanddollars in your certifications
to actually be certified in inNLP, eft, hypnosis, all the
different coaching that you do.
So why do you think you wereable to invest in it and what
advice do you have to somebodywho that's a barrier for them
(34:37):
and they're not comfortabledoing that?
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Yeah.
So I think self-belief isreally key in all of these
things in terms of just simplyinvestments, like even outside
of like the male to femaleMindset there just being able to
have that level of self-beliefin your own skills and your
ability to be resourceful, to beflexible in your approach,
because sometimes there's waysof getting to that next level
(35:04):
that you're not necessarilythinking of and I know that
obviously hiring help or youknow finding that mentorship is
important, but there's alsothree ways of getting that
support until you are at thatpoint that you can actually
Afford that or that investmentmakes sense to you as well, if
it's not like just purely amindset issue and it's just like
using your environment againlike to your advantage, right,
(35:27):
like going to networking events,surrounding yourself with women
who have done that forthemselves, having conversations
, and I think that alone justopens up your perspective and
your mind to being flexible inyour approach, to being able to
ask for help, and you'd besurprised how many people are
willing to give you Informationand tips and guidance without
actually Charging you for youknow those conversations and so
(35:52):
that's a lot of what I did.
I was listening to podcasts.
I was listening to your podcastback in the day.
You know, when I first poppedoff the nine to five wagon and
was really taking those eightmonths off, I was Consuming so
much and it was all freematerial podcast, books that
Kind of gets you in theheadspace and even just opening
up your awareness, all of thedifferent opportunities that are
(36:13):
in your surroundings.
And even today, right like inleaving my nine to five, I had
to discuss that with my partner.
Like I had to say, like is thisgoing to be a good opportunity
to be okay, because part of myincome is supporting the
mortgage for our new house andlike the build, and this is
important, and so you have to behaving open occasion and
discussion, and even hiring myown business coach today.
(36:35):
Like all of these things, youget easier as you continue to do
them right.
So the first, maybe even asmall investment that you're
making yourself for $100 courseor, you know, a $250 program
that's just the first initialstep and once you do it, and you
continue to do it over and overand over again, it just gets
easier because you've built thatresilience inside of you to
(36:56):
know that you're going to usethat information to make an
impact, and so it's a lot ofself-belief, but it's a lot of
just like talking yourself intorecognizing that you are worthy
of this education, of thesupport, and then just being
open to ways to receiving thatas well.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
And probably seeing the results, like for me I can
definitely relate to.
When I first started, I was themost broke I've ever been in my
life.
I was saying no to basicallyeverything.
I was so focused on making thiswork that it was about not
spending any money.
And investing in myself wasalways like this intense
decision because cash flowwasn't there, but the more that
(37:35):
I did it and then all of asudden I felt like I was
unlocking other opportunitieswhere I was more valuable
because of how I invested inmyself.
It made me really see thedirect connection.
And it isn't always the same astake this course about learning
how to podcast and then youcould learn to podcast and make
money from podcasting.
Like, sometimes there are waysto learn where there's a direct
(37:56):
revenue there, but then there'sjust the stuff that we're
talking about today where it'snot about, hey, you're going to
be able to charge $100 moretomorrow, but it's about this
long term journey, investment inyourself.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
That can be less directly correlated and then
it's really up to you to makethose connections and see that
even the course that I took- towith the certification they took
for all of these modalitiesthat I'm now teaching, right
Like when I took it with,actually so beneficial for
myself and I still use all ofthese things today.
But that's what also brought meto this level of confidence to
be able to speak on podcast orkeynote speak, or to go out and
(38:30):
even feel confident enough tonot charge somebody something
and to say I'm going to do this,like because I feel good about
it and, aligned, making thatdecision feels good in my body.
Those are all things that Iactually learned from that
certification that then, downthe line, it's like, okay, a
referral comes in or somebodysaw me speak at an event for
free and they're then hiring me.
(38:50):
So, like the return on yourinvestment whenever you're, you
know, investing in yourself andin your own development, it's
always going to benefit you inthe long run, and that's kind of
just my, my motto with anythingpersonal development wise, love
it, completely agree.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
So I know we're over time, but I do want to ask you
about one more thing that youput on the form, which I really
liked, which is for you, freedomis being able to build your own
CEO schedule, which I love.
Lifestyle design intentionallycreating our reality, choosing
how we want to spend each day,each month, each week oh, that
is my favorite thing to talkabout ever.
(39:26):
So in what ways are youintentionally designing your
lifestyle that maybe go againstthe standard path or ways of
living?
And we can kind of wrap upthere yeah, that's interesting,
I think you know.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Again, listening to myself in terms of what times of
day I even want to work, that'sgoing against the
unconventional, like grain, soto speak, choosing to have
sessions or appointments in theevening because that is when I
thrive and I'm like, yeah, I'mon, I'm good, I'm good to go,
whereas, like, maybe on amorning, I'm like, yeah, I'm a
(39:59):
little tired, I'm going to takea slow morning.
It's just allowing yourselfthat freedom to choose what you
want to do with every minute ofyour day.
One of the first things that Idid when I left my nine to five
and I, like, took the businessfull time.
I literally made a big pot ofchili at like 11am on a Tuesday
and I invited my parents overfor lunch, and that made me so
(40:21):
happy.
I was like this is exactly whatI want to be able to do.
It doesn't have to be anythingfancy or crazy, it's not like a
dollar value that is making me,like you know, have this joy.
It's literally inviting myparents over for chili on a
Tuesday morning.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
I love that so much I'm almost getting a little bit
like teary eyed, rememberingkind of my chili moment, which
is my grandma and I were soclose and before I had the
freedom lifestyle I would get tovisit her yeah, four times a
year, but it would be for theweekend and I distinctly
remember the first time I waslike no grandma, I'm going to
stay like a couple weeks, isthat okay?
(40:56):
And just her face of just likeoh really, oh, my God, smith, of
course, like stay as long asyou want.
And then like completelycreating a workspace for me and
getting a table and making sureI had a comfy chair and being
like so on board with like thislaptop lifestyle that they have
no clue what the hell I am doingdownstairs in their basement on
(41:16):
my laptop, but they are just sosupportive of it and me being
able to go home and spend timewith them.
Like it's not always working onyour laptop in Bali poolside
being 1024 seven, it's thoselittle things that you're like.
This actually means so much tome and I didn't have this before
.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
Exactly.
Yeah, oh, my God, I love that.
No, we're both cheering.
Oh, that's so sweet.
Oh, but yeah it is.
It's that aha moment that youthink, once you fully like, give
into what you really want andwhat you desire, like that's.
There's nothing better thanthat.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
Literally.
Brittany, you're amazing.
I love this conversation somuch.
You're so easy to speak to andI'm so proud of you for your own
journey, and I hope peoplelistening to this.
If they feel stuck, if theydon't know exactly what it is
that stopping them fromunlocking that next level of
success, or maybe they alreadyknow something isn't working and
they're in one of thosetransitionary periods where they
(42:08):
don't know their next move Ihope they reach out to you and
see how you can support them.
So, on that note, where shouldwe send them?
Where should they find moreinformation about you?
Do you have anything that youcan offer that we can leave them
with?
Speaker 2 (42:21):
For sure.
Well, thank you so much, sam,for having me.
I really appreciate thisconversation.
Yeah, I am on Instagram at mefree mindset.
That's probably the best placeto kind of get a sense of what I
do.
You know, scroll along and seelike kind of what I'm, what I'm
talking about there, and thenthere is a link as well to book
a free clarity call.
if there is something that youare really feeling the nudge to
chat about or explore, I'm opento having a call with you or
(42:44):
anyone listening and really justlike unlock that on top
potential.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
Amazing.
Do it Free discovery call.
I will include the links to allof that in the show notes.
Have a great rest of your day,Brittany.
Stay cozy.
It's cold out there.
You too.
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Today you are going to meetBrittany, who is the founder of
Be Free Mindset.
She has a master certificationin several modalities through
her coaching business, includingneuro-linguistic programming.
You may have heard of NLP,hypnosis, eft, tapping, timeline
(00:22):
therapy and mindset coaching.
She uses these differenttechniques to really guide and
mentor her clients, helps themneutralize negative emotions and
disempowering beliefs,reprogram your subconscious
thought patterns and bettercommunicate with not only
yourself but others.
And so it would be a mistake ifI didn't spend a lot of time in
(00:44):
this episode reallyunderstanding and unpacking what
NLP is, why we should be payingattention to this,
understanding what exactly it isat our subconscious level that
could be preventing us fromunlocking our next level of
success.
We talked about even some ofthe ethics around this, because
you may have heard of NLP beingused by salespeople, by
(01:06):
politicians, as a way tomanipulate others, because it
really is that powerful.
Brittany shared with me so manymind-blowing facts about NLP
that really shocked me and willprobably shock you.
So, even if you're like Sam,I'm good.
I have unlocked everything Iwant to unlock.
(01:27):
I have leveled up to my maximumlevel.
I don't need any of this.
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victim of its potentialmanipulation.
But, of course, brittany isusing NLP for good, helping us
think about how we can use thesemodalities to help us as
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Here is Brittany.
Brittany, welcome to theFreedom Lifestyle podcast.
How is your day going so far?
Where are you?
(03:14):
What are you?
Speaker 2 (03:14):
up to.
Thanks, sam, I appreciate youhaving me here.
Yeah, I'm just outside inToronto, in Pickering.
Actually it is a little bitsnowy and rainy over here, so
just in my cozies, having a cupof hot chocolate ready to chat
with you, I'm excited.
So thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Amazing.
Yeah, we're having a majorsnowstorm on the West Coast of
Canada as well.
I usually record in my office,but I'm recording downstairs in
the kitchen, much bigger openspace.
Not exactly podcast etiquette,but it's just so wild and windy
out there, so cozy vibes.
What would you normally bedoing right now if you weren't
(03:50):
on a podcast interview with?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
me Probably doing some deep work.
Usually, I've actually set mytimeframes or chunks of time for
work.
This is actually prime time forme.
Two to four is one of thosetimeframes that I'm just on and
can do deep focus work.
And you've had your businessnow for how long?
Speaker 1 (04:08):
So I started my business in 2019, so a little
more than four years, and one ofthe areas of your business is
coaching, helping people withtheir mindset, helping people
incorporate different modalitiesto serve them in their business
, and one of those areas ofexpertise is NLP.
So for somebody who's neverheard of NLP, or like has heard
(04:29):
of it but isn't only sure ifthey really know what it means,
can you explain it in thesimplest terms as well as you
know?
What does the acronym evenstand for?
Speaker 2 (04:37):
So NLP stands for Neuro Linguistic Programming and
I like to basically refer to itas like the user's manual for
the subconscious mind, becauseit's like the easiest way to
understand it.
Think of like a filing cabinetwith all of your stored you know
, belief systems, things thatyou do on autopilot, the way you
communicate, the way youstrategize, the way you make
(04:58):
decisions, like all of thethings.
But if we break it down kind ofeven further than that and like
into three words of like neuro,linguistic and programming,
neuro is basically referring toanything related to the mind, so
that mind body connection,that's kind of the focus there.
And then linguistics is likeall of the verbal communication
tones, physiology, how thatdictates the way that you
(05:20):
perform or, you know, achieveyour goals or outcomes.
And then the programming isliterally like our pattern,
belief system, our values, ouridentity, who we are.
So all of that is basicallystored in a little filing
cabinet inside our minds.
That's kind of NLP in that job.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
And so these parts that are filed away like they're
inside all of us, and it's moreabout whether we're opening the
filing cabinet and actuallygoing through the files and
intentionally using it isexactly yeah, so it's everything
that we do is like almost onautopilot.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
like 95% of the behaviors that we actually do on
a regular basis, like day today, are autopilot behaviors, if
you think of like waking up inthe morning and going and
brushing your teeth, even juststepping out of your bed and
then going to the bathroom doingyour thing, having a routine,
like you're not consciouslythinking of any of that.
So all of these like processes,routines, things that you're
(06:15):
doing are all basically storedaway and you're constantly doing
these repetitive behaviors.
But with NLP you're kind ofallowing yourself to tap into
the subconscious and unlockanything that you actually want
to change or repatter or rewireor like new integrations and new
learnings that you want totweak or improve, make better.
So a lot of the work that I dowith clients is literally
(06:37):
tapping into their subconsciousmind to help them build better
lives for themselves and elevateand grow in their life, their
business, their relationships,whatever the area may be.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
And so when someone's coming to you, do they
typically have something aboutthemselves that they want to
change?
Where they're like, I'veidentified the exact issue.
Please, how can I stop doingthis on autopilot?
Or is it more ambiguous?
Where they're coming to you andthey're like, I just can't
really identify it, but I'm nothaving the results I want, what
(07:06):
are you seeing most common interms of our awareness of the
issues that are preventing usfrom having what we want?
Speaker 2 (07:13):
So I would say like 80, 90% of people don't know
what the exact issue is, butthat is, I guess, my superpower.
And coming in and seeing thatbig picture of you for someone
right, like seeing, okay, youhave this roadblock, or you feel
really stuck or you feel reallyunhappy, or you know you want
this level of freedom in yourlife that you just can't seem to
get to.
(07:33):
And so that's where we kind ofdig into the process of even
like questioning.
Questioning is a large part ofNLP as well, like that's the
training that goes into, that isasking the tough questions and
getting really curious.
And so I think largely it's measking a lot of questions to
trying to unpack what it isthat's actually keeping somebody
(07:53):
stuck, because it's a lot ofsurface area type of like
bandaid type solutions thatthey're thinking of.
We haven't like cracked thatlayer and gone a little bit
deeper to see, okay, well, maybeit is something else that is
impacting this and that youhaven't necessarily thought of
before.
So, yeah, I think I think thatkind of answers your question.
It's not necessarily presentedlike surface level and someone's
(08:16):
like yes, this is my issue, howdo we change this?
But in working together, evenif it's just like a single
session.
We can usually unpack, likemaybe there's a little bit of
procrastination orself-sabotaging tendencies or
maybe there's some perfectionismthere, and they're like, oh, I
don't know, I don't think so andI'm like, are you sure?
Like let's unpack it a littlebit, let's get honest with
ourselves.
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It's like open up the book andlike make that awareness
something that, like is not oddor strange or weird or abnormal,
like let's normalize it.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
So yeah, that's part of that process, so sometimes
you can see results in a singlesession.
That's incredible.
That was a question I was goingto ask is how quickly does
someone typically see resultsfrom specifically NLP work, and
so I'd love for you to elaborateon that as well.
As what are you looking for inthese conversations?
What types of cues, what typesof indicators are you watching
(09:10):
out for in your client to reallyhelp them identify what?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
their blocker is in a single session, for example,
and I mean normally we worktogether for an extended period
of time, but I think it's thatsingle session that somebody
needs to see the results.
Or even just like a workshopthat I host or something you
know, just coming in contactwith me and being like, wow,
like I would have never askedmyself that question, which
would have never opened up orunlocked that information that,
like, I was storing inside of meor suppressing, or these
(09:36):
emotions that are coming up tothe service, or, oh my God, I'm
crying and like why am I crying?
And I'm like that's okay, it'snot a big deal, let's like,
let's unpack that.
Virtual Kinects here you go,exactly so I think that
sometimes people just they don'thave the space to fully explore
that, and so, like me, allowingthat space and that time and
energy to fully hear somebodyout and really ask me those
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tough, tough questions, can helpthem elaborate and, like, have
their own little minibreakthroughs, because the
changes are small tweaks.
They're not like these crazyelaborate things that are going
to happen necessarily overnight,but with a little bit of like
tweak modification.
You know, seeing what ourdecision strategies are like,
for example, like you know,people come to me and they're
like I don't know why I'm likeso indecisive with making
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decisions and it seems like sucha small thing, but it's
impacting the romanticrelationships, their ability to
apply for, like jobs, just likeany small decision seems like
this big, overwhelming thing,and so we have to kind of chunk
it up in NLP is what we call itwhat's the higher intention of
what you are trying toaccomplish?
And let's see how we can getthere in small tweaks and steps
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and action steps that are goingto help you make these decisions
faster or anchor you in abetter emotional state, for
example, when you're going forthwith certain big decisions or,
you know, motivating yourself todo some work or whatever the
path may be for that period oftime.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
So a big part of it is just even creating the space
to have the conversations, to beasked, the questions, to force
yourself to answer the questions.
That would unlock theseinsights, these aha moments
where you identify.
Okay, this is something I needto change.
But then what?
Can you give us an example ofsome homework you might give to?
Speaker 2 (11:13):
one of your clients.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Do we take action Like what does it look like to
now be like okay, know what itis yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
So like I always give home play to clients and like
sometimes it's actually reallyfun stuff that they just haven't
done.
So I'll say like, for example,for like an initial session,
I'll say let's go and make a funlist, so all the things that
you want to be doing that youhaven't been doing.
Usually people aren't askedthat question like what am I not
doing that I want to be doing?
That's one like very simplequestion and they're like oh
(11:42):
well, like I should beexercising.
It's like I'm not, I should.
What do you want to be doingthat you're not doing?
And if you're shitting yourself, that's not a good thing either
.
Right, like it's something thatyou want to be doing, that's
fun.
That's why I'm called the funlist.
So that's like a very simpleexercise that I have people do.
The other thing is thoughtcatching.
So this is a big one.
(12:03):
I'll have them write downthoughts that they're having
repetitively and basically marka tip like have a tick mark next
to how many times that thoughtcomes up and then we go through
and before the next session thatwe have, I have them kind of
like write out a phrase like,even though I feel like whatever
it is, like I'm not worthy ofthis relationship that I'm in.
(12:24):
I know that I'm working towardsthis, this and that, so it's
just changing, like flipping thescript.
We're literally flipping thescript on the thoughts in our
mind and writing them down onpaper so that we can actually
read how crazy sometimes thesethings sound when they're in our
heads.
Right, and that's constantlysomething that's being
repetitive and repeatedly saidin your own mind, right?
(12:45):
So getting it out on paper,yeah, thought catching is one of
fun lists.
And then there's like variousother ones in terms of like
anchoring yourself in a moment.
So I have a physical activitywhich the audience can't see
right now, but basically it'swhen you're feeling a specific
emotion that's like a high, highemotion, like you know,
confidence or happiness or joy,or like pure bless, in the
(13:05):
moment it's anchoring in thatocean using some hand gesture.
So I always make clients dothat when they are experiencing
something for the first time ormaybe something that they're
really like grateful for.
So, yeah, these are all kind oflike little tidbits of throwing
NLP into their daily life thatcan help them elevate.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Okay, I love a good activity, I love homework, it's
great to have a great chat, butthen so many people want to be
in that action.
How can I feel empowered inthis?
What can I do in between oursessions and in between our
calls to make sure that thatsubconscious behavior is
behaving in a way that I want itto behave?
On your stories yesterday youwere talking about the
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importance of our environmentand actually changing our
mindset.
So can you talk about theexternal reality and what we
might need to have to change inorder to impact our internal
reality that the everyday personcould change?
Right, because there's a lot ofthings that maybe I could
change but I can't changetomorrow.
Maybe I can't necessarily quitmy job tomorrow or end this
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relationship tomorrow.
Maybe I should, I don't know,but talk to us about the
external environment and youradvice around that.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
So one of like the logical levels of change
basically is the like lowestlevel is environment, and it is
actually one of the easiestthings you know to change your
physical environment, becausethat's something that you
actually have control of andthat's a conscious like piece of
your awareness basically, right, like who you surround yourself
with, who you're talking to ona daily basis, who you're
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working with.
That sort of thing all has somelevel of control, and so we can
only move in the direction ofactually working on things that
we can control in our lives and,above that, in order to change
the higher levels of thatlogical like pyramid, which are
like identity and values andbeliefs, that is all
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foundationally rooted on thatground level of your environment
, who you're surroundingyourself with.
And so, even just like settingup things like boundaries are
really important, because that'ssomething that you can control
right, and you can removeyourself from a situation if
this specific event happens orif there's a consequence that
you need to actually be up frontabout and kind of like act on.
(15:18):
And so the environment is atough one, because it's even
something that, like we struggleto know whether we are in the
right environment or not, and Ithink this has a lot to do with
how you're feeling as well.
I know, for like for myself,even in my work environments in
the past, I just felt burnt out,I felt overwhelmed, I felt
tired, exhausted, like my body,everything in my body is telling
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me this isn't the right placeto be.
Did I know that, like I wasgoing to start my business or,
you know, move in a completelydifferent trajectory in my life
than in what I'm in now?
I had no idea, but I did knowthat I need to remove myself
from specific scenarios andsituations and build up the
courage to do that.
So that included, you know,relationships.
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They included toxic workenvironments and included
friendships that you know.
I had to physically just say outloud to myself and actually
give myself permission to say itout loud to me that I'm not
surrounding myself with thepeople who are actually lifting
me up or going to make me betteror help me grow or challenge me
.
And so I think those are somequestions that you can kind of
(16:24):
ask yourself today.
Like, if you're listening tothis it's are you feeling that
nudged to change or shift, orsomething in you making you feel
like you need to move, you needto switch up your environment,
and this can also be done inreally small ways too, like
decluttering your apartment oryour home, like remove things
(16:45):
that aren't serving you, donateitems that you aren't using,
like it starts with some reallysmall adjustments and tweaks and
then, once you get really goodat that, the big things don't
seem as heavily like, they don'tweigh as heavily on your chest.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Basically, I love all of this.
I think that I'm somebody whohas always been really well
connected to my own feelings.
I'm able to label my feelings.
I'm able to use my feelings toguide my decision making.
You could ask me how I'mfeeling right now and I could in
detail describe it not togeneralize, but I find women are
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a bit better at doing that.
I have a husband who is veryinto growth, personal
development, wanting to change,wanting to get coaching.
He does not let his feelingsdrive his decision making and
sometimes I don't even know ifhe knows what he's feeling.
Like I've been really pushingback sometimes I'm like describe
what you're feeling right now.
And he was like I don't know.
(17:40):
I never like talked about myfeelings growing up or it wasn't
like a big part of how I've ledmy life.
Do you ever have clients orlike that.
They're like I don't know whatI'm feeling.
What should I be feeling?
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Yes, absolutely Like.
Again, similar to you, I canpinpoint that really easily in
my body.
I'm like oh my God, mystomach's off the chains right
now.
Like I know that I'm likeanxious or nervous, or you know,
there's this excitement,there's these butterflies.
I know what a feeling in mybody represents as an emotion.
Most people don't make thatconnection and we've almost been
like conditioned that way in asense, with like just modern
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medicine and the way that youconnect with yourselves.
We've like dissociated the mindand like your body as two
separate things and like youhandle them separately.
And so that's why when peopleare asked the question, okay,
like how are you today?
And they're like describingwhat they did, and you're like
no, no, no, how are you?
What are you feeling?
And with some of my clientsthey can't put that into
physical words, and so it's moreof like, okay, how is it
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showing up in your body?
Like they can feel maybetightness in their chest, or
they're like yeah, I justthere's some like moodiness or I
did.
They can describe it as actionsthat they've taken throughout
the day.
And so I kind of shift thenarrative of like, okay, how was
yesterday?
And compare to today how do youfeel in a sense of like you
know your productivity or yourability to think clearly, or do
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you feel more energized or areyou tired.
I'm having to give them a few ofthe like descriptive emotions
and they're like, yeah, I'mfeeling like that or no, that's
not how I'm feeling right now.
We're like I don't know.
Like right now I don't know.
So it's kind of like gettingpeople out of their heads to and
into their bodies and that'slike largely a part of just
uncovering a lot more aboutyourself and dating a little bit
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deeper and having the abilityto be vulnerable.
And it's funny that you touch on, like the difference between
men and women, because so I'vedone a lot of like intuitive
work too right, and so when youwere very connected to your body
and women, you know we havethat maternal sense for very
giving like in general and it'sactually related to your brain.
So we actually, as women, havemore white matter in our brains
(19:45):
so we can actually go from logicto intuition a lot faster
because that like roadway ofwhite matter in our purpose
callisum of our brain is larger,larger surface area.
Men have a smaller surface areaso they can't go from logic to
intuition as quickly likefeelings to you know reality,
feelings to reality, over andover.
(20:05):
Like we can do that prettyquickly, even in like a simple
conversation with somebody, butthey really need a little bit
more time to kind of deeplyreflect on things like that.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
So very cool.
I love facts like that.
Is there anything else you canshare with us?
That's, you know, maybe mindblowing that you learned about
NLP in your certificationprocessor and your research that
likely we haven't heard beforethat if we did, we're like, oh
wow, that is pretty crazy.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Yeah, well, I think like one fact that a lot of
people don't know is about likeour communication.
So only 7% of our communicationis actually verbal.
38% of it is our tone and 55%it's our physiology.
So a lot can be said about justyou sitting in a room with a
few people.
(20:52):
Like you are conveying amessage with your body language
alone, even if you think aboutlike somebody talking to you and
how you feel energetically intheir presence, like their tone
of voice is conveying a lot anda deeper message.
And so I think also with, likevery highly sensitive
Individuals, this is a lot moreapparent.
Like if you feel like you'remore of a feeler, I would say
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more in touch with your emotions, like you can pick up on
people's tone, I would say evenin conversations, and like you
might experience this too withyour partner, right, like if
something is said in a certainway, you're like I don't know,
like what was that kind of tone?
Like you pick up on it and youeither choose to let it go and,
you know, move along, or you'relike I think something's up,
like let's, let's get into it.
(21:35):
Like what's going on, what?
Like asking immediately.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Yeah, he hates it.
He's like I can't get anythingpast you, like he'll just say
something and even just look inthe eye I'm like what was that?
So what do you mean?
And then all of a sudden hestarts blushing.
I was like, well, now you'reblushing first falls your eyes
twitched.
Just say it.
Just say I don't want to say it.
I'm like, just say it.
You have something to say?
Just say it.
Yeah, love that.
That's so, so true.
(21:59):
I've heard of sales peopleincorporating NLP Because of the
communication power and becauseof what you can learn about
that, and some people have mayberaised some concerns about
ethical considerations.
I'm curious what is your takeon that?
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Yeah.
So I mean, like anything else,nlp can be used for good or it
can be used for unethical andmoral Purposes.
It's using everything,literally.
Nlp is used by marketers,politicians, people in every
industry, and you don't realizethat it's being used until
you've learned a little bit moreabout it.
So communication, tone,language, patterns, strategic
(22:34):
ways of like, you know,displaying a specific product,
or you know buyer psychologyit's all related to NLP as well,
and so you can use it in a very, you know, compassionate, good,
ethical way, which is the waythat we choose to use it as
coaches, you know, really tolike help unlock facial cutie
and really understand howsomebody's feeling and really
(22:55):
read between the lines, and sothat is like one of the benefits
of using it.
But it can absolutely be usedin ways that are not beneficial
for everyone or in like Fly meunethical ways, which I
obviously don't agree with.
But you know, once theinformation is out there, people
can use it as they wish andchoose to benefit financially or
in whatever way that theydesire.
(23:17):
So I can't remember what thevideo is called, but it's like a
video based on touch.
So, because people know thatthey're very sensitive to touch,
think of going into a storewhen you buy something.
There's some people who need tofeel the product, that you feel
that cash from your sweater.
There's other people that canlook at it online and be like,
oh yeah, that's my want.
So some people are more proneto making decisions or emotional
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choices If you know there'sphysical touch involved.
You think of like, intimacy andthat sort of thing.
Manipulation can be used in thatway a lot, right.
So if you're thinking of like,even employers, or sliming, like
slime buckets to you know, usethat kind of manipulation with
people, like that is a thing.
And so even physical touch oflike holding someone, touching
someone, patting someone on theshoulder, whatever it is that
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can actually exhibit a specificreaction from somebody.
And if you know intentionallythat you're using that for that
reason, I mean that's immoraland unethical and I don't agree
with that.
Does everybody know thatthey're doing that?
Or is it sometimes more of anintuitive thing that you're in a
partnership?
You go to hug someone.
That's not necessarily using anLP to your like advantage, it's
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just you know you're wanting tobe comforting to someone.
But yeah, it can be used inthose kind of ways too.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Well, there's something to be said when your
partner just comes over to youwhen you're working and almost
then use rubbing your shouldersout of nowhere, and seconds
later there's a special requestbeing made.
So it sounds like Whether wewant to be using an LP for our
own personal development or wejust want to be aware that this
exists in that or maybe notvictims of how it could be used
(24:49):
against us seems like a good useof our time.
So thanks for explaining andbreaking so much of that down
for us.
I know you also have a prettyincredible story of your own
personal transformation and Iwant to make sure we get into
that, because the life you'reliving now started with you
making some drastic changesyourself quitting your job and
not having any back-up plan, noteven having a plan for how you
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were going to make money next.
So paint a picture about whatwas going on in your life then,
and then I want to get into howyou were able to do that without
a safety net.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Yes, gosh, a lot of like resilience and courage, I
would say, for something likeeasy to leave your job.
But basically I think it stemsback to, you know, a few years
ago.
So this was before I started mybusiness.
I was going through like areally rough time.
I was in a relationship that Iwas like completely dissatisfied
and unhappy with.
There was just like thismissing piece and I just felt
(25:42):
like I wanted more the job, thatI was in very toxic environment
and I was like hustling andslaving and just, you know,
exhausted and then also like myhealth was on a decline.
So I actually have pronedisease.
So I was diagnosed with thiswhen I was 18 and that time in
my life I actually had to dropout of university when I was
diagnosed because it was bad.
It was at the point where I hadto be hospitalized, went
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through surgery, had like alarge chunk of my intestine.
It was a whole thing.
So I think a lot of that alsoshaped my ability to be very
resilient and like make acomeback and just focus on
myself, also have that intuitiveability of like reading my body
, doing my own body scan, seeinghow I'm feeling and being open
about talking about things likethat and being vulnerable.
(26:26):
So that health flare wasbasically coming back in 2019
and I knew it was like stressrelated.
Like obviously I'm unhappy.
I'm in a relationship.
I'm not, you know, thriving inmy work relationship is not
really good Like it was anoverall, like I want to call it
like quarter of a century, likemidlife crisis type thing.
I was what was I like 2029 atthe time and I just remember
(26:48):
sitting there and being like Icannot let the next decade of my
life be the same as this decade.
Like I was started Like wasstarted asking myself the tough
questions.
I was like what do I even wantto be remembered for in this
lifetime?
I want to leave some sort oflegacy and I want to be happy
doing it and I want to feelpurposeful and driven and
motivated and like I just wantto have all this freedom in my
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life that I'm looking for.
That I didn't have at the time,so quit my job.
Very difficult, I was living inmy parents basement.
You know it was a whole thing.
It was fine.
Like I was happy to besurrounded by people who were
supporting me in that moment,which was a big deal.
Like the support system is huge.
I removed myself from that longdistance relationship and it was
after four and a half years.
So you know, there was a lot oflike race that I had to process
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during that time and reallyunderstand like myself and I
realized like I don't reallyknow who I was at that time in
my life.
I was doing a lot of peoplepleasing, I was stressed out, I
was bringing myself out.
So, yeah, left all of that andI was in the hospital for a
couple weeks and then, once Igot out, I was like, okay, now's
my time, I'm just going tofocus on me.
And so that's when I reallylike flip the switch on my
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personal development, makingthat a priority.
I hired my own coach at the timebecause I was so uncertain
about, like, my career direction, where I wanted to be, what I
wanted to do, and so I justthought, like when am I ever
going to have this much time formyself when I can invest in
myself and be able tofinancially but also have the
genuine time to like do the workand take the time to express
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how I'm feeling to somebody elseand have that unbiased support
because, as much as, like, yourfamily and friends are there for
you.
There's still things that youdon't want to kind of Unleash
and like unlock to your parents.
So at the time I remember myparents like I had said, like
yeah, I spent, like I don't knowwhat it was like five thousand
dollars on a couch.
You feel like I remember my dadjust being like are you out of
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your mind?
Speaker 1 (28:46):
I knew you'd never job.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Are you know?
Yeah, I mean I had savings,which is why I felt like, okay,
I can probably do this, but likeit wasn't like massive amounts
of savings, I'm still like Ineed to figure out what I need
to do.
And so he's like, are you crazy?
Like what the heck?
And Anyways, they just thoughtI was like insane and I was like
no, no, like trust me, there issomething in me that's telling
me I need to do this, need tofocus on myself, and so working
(29:08):
with her Literally unlocked thislike fire inside me to really
work on my self-confidence andmyself belief and Really dive
into the things that I was goodat and understand, like how to
piece together Like what I'mreally good at, what I love to
do, what makes me happy, andlike have that be something that
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Is constantly in the back of mymind when I'm looking for a job
or creating that lifestyle formyself, moving forward.
And so that's when I kind ofpiece together the fact that,
like I've always been intopsychology, mindset, literally,
like my electives in universitywere always that stuff right,
like languages and learning, orlike psychology of normal
psychology, the mind, body ThenI'm like, okay, it was diagnosed
(29:50):
with Crohn's disease more intune with my body.
What's going on?
So it's like how can I use allof this?
I'm just trying to like piecetogether all of these skills.
And so that's when I actuallystarted B3 mindset, because I
was like I have so many friends,people that come to me for
advice, and as much as it seemscrazy to like go into this
coaching world and not reallyknow much about it, I felt like
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I was like destined to do thatand so, yeah, and then that
really built into takingcertifications, doing nervous
system regulation work, clinicalbreath work, emotional freedom,
techniques of tapping, and I'llbe all of these things.
I'm just like trickled into myworld, integrating the parts of
myself that were like part ofyou wants to take this nine to
five, continue to sign to five,and then part of you wants to
(30:33):
take your business further andlike how can we mesh those two
together and see where, like,the biggest ripple of packed and
the most happiness and joy canbe built in your life through
making one decision?
Speaker 1 (30:46):
And so that's where we are today.
Well, I'm so happy for you.
It's amazing that you were ableto connect all those dots and
have all of those differentexperiences in your life.
I'll accumulate into Teeing youup and preparing you for where
you are now, which is yourhappiest life to date.
I mean a lot of people say therewas nothing like childhood, but
I don't know.
(31:06):
I think my 30s, with money,with confidence in myself, with
some security, I would take thatover being a kid I would.
So a couple questions that Iwant to ask about your journey.
One is you invested in a coachin this process.
So what type of coaching wereyou getting that helps you
connect these dots and identifythat Coaching was actually where
(31:27):
you wanted to go?
Speaker 2 (31:27):
next, yeah, so at the time that she, amanda was her
name, she was actually a coachfor career development, but also
like life coaching.
So she did a little bit of both,which I found to be extremely
Beneficial, because not only arepeople who are looking for
coaching in like the careerAspect looking just for that,
(31:48):
they're actually looking forlike support and like building
their confidence.
You know, even just in buildingyour own resume or being able to
talk about yourself, you needto have clarity in what you want
in your life, and so sheoffered me a lot of that
perspective, or like activitiesand the ability to like Untap or
unlock that actual basically,and so that was like what I
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needed at the time and so that'swhat.
Even in my work, when I'm goingto help people out and we're
looking at things like fromsurface level, like we haven't
even scratched the surface,basically I'm asking them, like
okay, what are your biggestgoals and dreams that you've had
that seem completely out ofreach?
Because they're not and you canget there and maybe you're just
(32:29):
not seeing the path, and that'swhy I'm here to kind of help
you lead that way into clarityand focus and motivation and
productivity, so that you arethen building the life that you
really want in a way, you'rekind of paying it forward.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Somebody helped you with the life coaching, the
clarity, the career Insights interms of what path you want to
go on, and now you're doing thatfor others, and so it was a mix
of like life coaching, careercoaching.
Those are kind of like theterms you were.
Were you searching for, or didAmanda find you?
Speaker 2 (32:59):
I think I was following Amanda on Instagram
for quite a while, so it's notlike I even really knew what she
was doing for a long time untilI was actually looking for it
and then her stuff was poppingup and I was like, oh okay, like
what is this all about?
And like the thing was shewasn't that much further ahead
in her life Then I was at thattime like she was just just
getting out of her nine to fiveand just like Making this life
(33:22):
for herself as well, and sothat's another thing.
I think like you don't reallyhave to.
If you need support ormentorship or guidance, you
don't need to be looking forsomeone who's like already has
like a million things that youwant or is that like the
pinnacle of their Success or youknow that road map that they're
looking to go on.
It's really just looking forsomeone who is a few steps ahead
(33:42):
of you so that you can leaninto their mentorship and Some
of their advice and really helphave them.
Help you kind of open your eyesto what you're missing out on
and missing pieces that can helpyou move forward.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
That's super helpful.
Another thing I wanted to askabout is your ability to really
invest in yourself, becausewe've talked a little bit about
Women and men and thedifferences, and another thing I
do notice is women have more ofa challenge investing in
themselves financially,especially these big-ticket
investments, these four or fivefigure type investments, and
(34:16):
you've been doing this.
Not only did you invest in yourcoach, but you also invested
almost another ten thousanddollars in your certifications
to actually be certified in inNLP, eft, hypnosis, all the
different coaching that you do.
So why do you think you wereable to invest in it and what
advice do you have to somebodywho that's a barrier for them
(34:37):
and they're not comfortabledoing that?
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Yeah.
So I think self-belief isreally key in all of these
things in terms of just simplyinvestments, like even outside
of like the male to femaleMindset there just being able to
have that level of self-beliefin your own skills and your
ability to be resourceful, to beflexible in your approach,
because sometimes there's waysof getting to that next level
(35:04):
that you're not necessarilythinking of and I know that
obviously hiring help or youknow finding that mentorship is
important, but there's alsothree ways of getting that
support until you are at thatpoint that you can actually
Afford that or that investmentmakes sense to you as well, if
it's not like just purely amindset issue and it's just like
using your environment againlike to your advantage, right,
(35:27):
like going to networking events,surrounding yourself with women
who have done that forthemselves, having conversations
, and I think that alone justopens up your perspective and
your mind to being flexible inyour approach, to being able to
ask for help, and you'd besurprised how many people are
willing to give you Informationand tips and guidance without
actually Charging you for youknow those conversations and so
(35:52):
that's a lot of what I did.
I was listening to podcasts.
I was listening to your podcastback in the day.
You know, when I first poppedoff the nine to five wagon and
was really taking those eightmonths off, I was Consuming so
much and it was all freematerial podcast, books that
Kind of gets you in theheadspace and even just opening
up your awareness, all of thedifferent opportunities that are
(36:13):
in your surroundings.
And even today, right like inleaving my nine to five, I had
to discuss that with my partner.
Like I had to say, like is thisgoing to be a good opportunity
to be okay, because part of myincome is supporting the
mortgage for our new house andlike the build, and this is
important, and so you have to behaving open occasion and
discussion, and even hiring myown business coach today.
(36:35):
Like all of these things, youget easier as you continue to do
them right.
So the first, maybe even asmall investment that you're
making yourself for $100 courseor, you know, a $250 program
that's just the first initialstep and once you do it, and you
continue to do it over and overand over again, it just gets
easier because you've built thatresilience inside of you to
(36:56):
know that you're going to usethat information to make an
impact, and so it's a lot ofself-belief, but it's a lot of
just like talking yourself intorecognizing that you are worthy
of this education, of thesupport, and then just being
open to ways to receiving thatas well.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
And probably seeing the results, like for me I can
definitely relate to.
When I first started, I was themost broke I've ever been in my
life.
I was saying no to basicallyeverything.
I was so focused on making thiswork that it was about not
spending any money.
And investing in myself wasalways like this intense
decision because cash flowwasn't there, but the more that
(37:35):
I did it and then all of asudden I felt like I was
unlocking other opportunitieswhere I was more valuable
because of how I invested inmyself.
It made me really see thedirect connection.
And it isn't always the same astake this course about learning
how to podcast and then youcould learn to podcast and make
money from podcasting.
Like, sometimes there are waysto learn where there's a direct
(37:56):
revenue there, but then there'sjust the stuff that we're
talking about today where it'snot about, hey, you're going to
be able to charge $100 moretomorrow, but it's about this
long term journey, investment inyourself.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
That can be less directly correlated and then
it's really up to you to makethose connections and see that
even the course that I took- towith the certification they took
for all of these modalitiesthat I'm now teaching, right
Like when I took it with,actually so beneficial for
myself and I still use all ofthese things today.
But that's what also brought meto this level of confidence to
be able to speak on podcast orkeynote speak, or to go out and
(38:30):
even feel confident enough tonot charge somebody something
and to say I'm going to do this,like because I feel good about
it and, aligned, making thatdecision feels good in my body.
Those are all things that Iactually learned from that
certification that then, downthe line, it's like, okay, a
referral comes in or somebodysaw me speak at an event for
free and they're then hiring me.
(38:50):
So, like the return on yourinvestment whenever you're, you
know, investing in yourself andin your own development, it's
always going to benefit you inthe long run, and that's kind of
just my, my motto with anythingpersonal development wise, love
it, completely agree.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
So I know we're over time, but I do want to ask you
about one more thing that youput on the form, which I really
liked, which is for you, freedomis being able to build your own
CEO schedule, which I love.
Lifestyle design intentionallycreating our reality, choosing
how we want to spend each day,each month, each week oh, that
is my favorite thing to talkabout ever.
(39:26):
So in what ways are youintentionally designing your
lifestyle that maybe go againstthe standard path or ways of
living?
And we can kind of wrap upthere yeah, that's interesting,
I think you know.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Again, listening to myself in terms of what times of
day I even want to work, that'sgoing against the
unconventional, like grain, soto speak, choosing to have
sessions or appointments in theevening because that is when I
thrive and I'm like, yeah, I'mon, I'm good, I'm good to go,
whereas, like, maybe on amorning, I'm like, yeah, I'm a
(39:59):
little tired, I'm going to takea slow morning.
It's just allowing yourselfthat freedom to choose what you
want to do with every minute ofyour day.
One of the first things that Idid when I left my nine to five
and I, like, took the businessfull time.
I literally made a big pot ofchili at like 11am on a Tuesday
and I invited my parents overfor lunch, and that made me so
(40:21):
happy.
I was like this is exactly whatI want to be able to do.
It doesn't have to be anythingfancy or crazy, it's not like a
dollar value that is making me,like you know, have this joy.
It's literally inviting myparents over for chili on a
Tuesday morning.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
I love that so much I'm almost getting a little bit
like teary eyed, rememberingkind of my chili moment, which
is my grandma and I were soclose and before I had the
freedom lifestyle I would get tovisit her yeah, four times a
year, but it would be for theweekend and I distinctly
remember the first time I waslike no grandma, I'm going to
stay like a couple weeks, isthat okay?
(40:56):
And just her face of just likeoh really, oh, my God, smith, of
course, like stay as long asyou want.
And then like completelycreating a workspace for me and
getting a table and making sureI had a comfy chair and being
like so on board with like thislaptop lifestyle that they have
no clue what the hell I am doingdownstairs in their basement on
(41:16):
my laptop, but they are just sosupportive of it and me being
able to go home and spend timewith them.
Like it's not always working onyour laptop in Bali poolside
being 1024 seven, it's thoselittle things that you're like.
This actually means so much tome and I didn't have this before
.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
Exactly.
Yeah, oh, my God, I love that.
No, we're both cheering.
Oh, that's so sweet.
Oh, but yeah it is.
It's that aha moment that youthink, once you fully like, give
into what you really want andwhat you desire, like that's.
There's nothing better thanthat.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
Literally.
Brittany, you're amazing.
I love this conversation somuch.
You're so easy to speak to andI'm so proud of you for your own
journey, and I hope peoplelistening to this.
If they feel stuck, if theydon't know exactly what it is
that stopping them fromunlocking that next level of
success, or maybe they alreadyknow something isn't working and
they're in one of thosetransitionary periods where they
(42:08):
don't know their next move Ihope they reach out to you and
see how you can support them.
So, on that note, where shouldwe send them?
Where should they find moreinformation about you?
Do you have anything that youcan offer that we can leave them
with?
Speaker 2 (42:21):
For sure.
Well, thank you so much, sam,for having me.
I really appreciate thisconversation.
Yeah, I am on Instagram at mefree mindset.
That's probably the best placeto kind of get a sense of what I
do.
You know, scroll along and seelike kind of what I'm, what I'm
talking about there, and thenthere is a link as well to book
a free clarity call.
if there is something that youare really feeling the nudge to
chat about or explore, I'm opento having a call with you or
(42:44):
anyone listening and really justlike unlock that on top
potential.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
Amazing.
Do it Free discovery call.
I will include the links to allof that in the show notes.
Have a great rest of your day,Brittany.
Stay cozy.
It's cold out there.
You too.
Thanks, Sam.
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