April 4, 2024 • 38 mins
Embracing Your Energetic DNA ✨
Adina is a business + human design coach challenging the assumption that success comes from a one-size-fits-all strategy. She's adopted a personalized approach that nurtures well-being alongside wealth, through the power of Human Design Readings.
Key Takeaways:
- Fundamental components of a Human Design chart and how they contribute to an individual's unique blueprint
- Practical examples of using Human Design in your business (decision making, energy management and seeking your true purpose)
- The role that "having fun" plays in attracting opportunities
- How to avoid becoming a victim of personality mapping / astrology tools
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About the show:
Sam Laliberte - entrepreneur, digital nomad and freedom seeker, hosts the Freedom Lifestyle Podcast to expose people to the many ways you can design your dream life and unlock your own version of the freedom lifestyle. Her guests have empowered themselves through flexible work as a way to “have it all” - financial, location AND schedule freedom.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
you're listening to a new episode of the freedom
lifestyle podcast and today youare going to meet adina, who is
a business coach that works withentrepreneurs to help them
understand how their uniquehuman design can be leveraged as
a tool to create more wealth intheir business but, more
importantly, to have more fun inpursuit of their goals.
I cannot believe it's beenalmost 100 episodes of the
(00:26):
Freedom Lifestyle podcast and Ihaven't had someone on here yet
who can talk about human design.
It has been a resource not onlyfor my own business but my life
, and it truly changedeverything.
As cliche as it sounds, Idistinctly remember the day I
got my very first human designreading.
The day I got my very firsthuman design reading and if I
had to describe it in onesentence, it was permission to
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finally just be myself.
It was so frigging powerful.
But, like anything in life, youwant to pick and choose the type
of information that you receivefrom these tools and really
treat personality testing andtools like human design as a
resource in a lifelongexploration of figuring out who
we are, what makes our lifeexciting and what makes our life
meaningful to us.
This is something that Adinareally stresses.
She says the worst thing youcan do is get a reading and
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basically treat it as your lifeBible, treat it as the absolute
truth and sometimes treat it asan excuse for not doing the
things that could actually helpyour business and help your life
, because your human design toldyou energetically that's not
right for you.
Always a disclaimer with thesethings, but they are very
powerful.
Another disclaimer and note isthat I did record this episode
(01:37):
in a setting that maybe wasn'tthe best for podcasting.
I was in Whistler, big openspace, big open room, with a
little bit of an echo.
So shame on me, but I think itwas so important to just get
this information out.
It's too valuable.
Adina is too much fun, you'regonna love her and so, taking my
own advice, perfection is notthe goal here, friends, and I
(01:59):
just tried to edit myself out asmuch as possible.
So, on that note, get ready tolearn and get ready to meet a
really amazing entrepreneur.
With no for the delay, here isAdina.
Adina, welcome to the FreedomLifestyle Podcast.
How are you doing today?
How are we?
Speaker 2 (02:18):
feeling, feeling amazing.
I get to see you again, whichis an absolute bonus to my day
yes and uh yeah, no, I'm feelinggood.
It's three o'clock here in theafternoon in the UK, so I've had
some good caffeine intakealready.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
I've been in the vibes what would you normally be
doing at three o'clock in theafternoon if you weren't on an
interview with me that I can saypublicly I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
No, I'm joking.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Oh my god, now I need to know what.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
No, that was a joke, or was it?
I keep things very loose.
According to my human design, Ihave a few things that I need
to do, but as far as thestructure is concerned, it's
like okay.
Well, if it's like this everyTuesday, it's bad.
So I need to give myselfoptions.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Okay, I like that.
You said according to yourhuman design.
I'm hoping in today'sconversation we can pull out
some high level examples, mostlyto help somebody hear in very
practical terms how knowing whatyour human design is could
impact how you're makingdecisions, could impact what
types of things you're sayingyes or no to, potentially, how
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it might be able to enhance someof the things that you're doing
already at a very like highlevel.
And then really it's up to theaudience to then go take the
next step, which would be to geta reading or really dig deeper
into what their unique humandesign is.
And so, when we're really usinga tool like human design, how
does it differ from otherpersonality typing systems like
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astrology or Myers-Briggs, whichis one that I've used a lot in
work settings and even in mypersonal life, and you know,
throw in some dating datingexperiences there.
How does it differ?
Speaker 2 (04:01):
So Myers-Briggs and StrengthsFind and all of these
things, they're all likepsychological tests and, to be
honest, like I want to know whatyour type is.
I'm a campaigner, so I'm likeI'm always really interested to
hear what people are.
Human design uses astrology,but the best way that I can
describe it and this is so.
The answer is going to be alittle bit longer, but I'll try
to keep it as short as I can.
We know that, biologically, ourDNA is unique to us.
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We share certain similaritieswith other people.
There are certain chromosomesthat are active and non-active.
Anyone who, like I, loved DNAwork in biology class was one of
my favorite things Loved it.
But we also know that justbecause certain parts are active
or inactive means that,therefore, our entire genetic
makeup can change based on that.
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So, based on that, human designis essentially exactly the same
, except it's your energetic DNA.
That's how I like to describeit.
So human design uses themodality of astrology, of the
Kabbalah, of the I Ching, of thechakra system, but it puts them
all together.
So, rather than getting just acake or a starter at a
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restaurant, you basically get tolook at the whole buffet and
you get to look at okay, well,oh okay.
So we have fish and we have,like, maybe not the best example
, but you see where I'm goingwith this, the way that you can
then look at well, how doeshuman design teach me?
How can I make decisions formyself?
As it basically starts with thetip of the iceberg.
Anyone who starts off learningabout human design always learns
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like the top three, maybe thetop four things, right your type
, your strategy, your authorityand then maybe your profile or
incarnation cross, depending onwho you're following, right, so
those are like my.
My top four is always thesethings.
Start with them, but then youcan take years going into the
rest, because now you're lookingat okay, well, the type has a
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certain energetic makeup.
So let's take you, for instance, as a generator.
Are you pure generator ormanifesting generator?
Pure, pure generator?
Okay.
So every type has a theme thatthey would go through life with,
that they're here to outputinto the world.
And let's say that the type isrepresentative of okay, well,
what is the character of a moviethat you're playing?
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Okay, so if the character is agenerator, then that means you,
as that character, are here formastery.
You are here to show the restof us what it feels like to
delight in mastery, what truemastery looks like, what like
deep in the details.
That's what you're like todelight in mastery, what true
mastery looks like, what it likedeep in the details.
That's what you're here to showus, right?
So if you have a manifestinggenerator, for instance, that
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would be their character wouldbe to show us the mastery of
shortcuts.
They're not here to go and getbogged down in the details.
They're here to find how can Iskip steps to get to the end
that you're trying to showpeople, just to show the rest of
us that life doesn't have to beso linear and that we get to
experience loads of differentthings.
Just based on that examplealone, you would show people who
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are generators and manifestinggenerators work very differently
.
How can we show you, as agenerator, how to delight in the
mastery that you teach peopleright in the aspect of what
you're teaching people, or as amanifesting generator?
It's not for them to get boggeddown in the details, like I
said.
So how can I show them thatskipping steps for them is
actually the right thing andtrying like having many
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different business ventures onthe on the site is also the
correct thing, because the worldhas taught us to finish what we
started.
That's not correct formanifesting generators all the
time.
Okay, so, based on thatknowledge, we can then start
looking at okay, well, typealone, okay, well, then we can
go deeper.
What's the profile, what's yourauthority, what's your strategy
?
Right, and so that would thenlayer all of these aspects.
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Then we look at what are thecenters that are defined, what
are the gates that are fine, howare the gates defined in each
of the planets?
Just because you have gate 15and I might have gate 15, it
could have a differentexpression, and so I'm getting
very, very deep into here.
So I don't want you to be likebut no, I think.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
I think that's really practical examples and that's a
good reminder that, as agenerator, mastery is something
I want to be considering, and italso gives me permission to
remind myself that I can investin things I already know about,
to go from a nine out of ten ina skill to a ten out of ten, and
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that is actually something I'vebeen feeling called to.
I've been feeling called toactually investing in more
public speaking courses, andsometimes, when I say that to
people, they would think, well,why are you taking a public
speaking course?
You're already a public speaker, you already do this, naturally
.
But no, I want to be the bestthat I can possibly be at it,
and it sounds like you just gaveme permission to do that, right
(08:41):
.
Okay, I'm signing up.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Well, I'm hoping that you give yourself permission,
but then, like, let's take it asyou know what your profile is
in human design.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
My profile is a one three, perfect.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
So, based on the type that we know we now understand,
okay, well, you're here forthis mastery.
You show us what satisfactionand mastery looks like, right?
So then, as a one three profile, you're here to get really
bogged down into the details.
You are here to build thefoundation of that knowledge, of
that mastery, because the 1 isthe investigator line and the 3
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is the line that experimentswith stuff which we call the
martyr.
And so here's why this isreally cool, and then I'll show
you what it might look like withsomeone else, right?
So for you, for instance, youare going to want to investigate
all of the programs, all of thelike.
You can read articles.
You can also read the same bookmany times over and get new
information out of it.
You just love investigatingstuff.
You're the person everyonecomes to when they want to know
shit, right?
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And then the third line, themartyr line.
You take a sledgehammer to theknowledge that you have gained,
you break it apart and you lookat the pieces and you're like,
okay, well, which one of thesework for me?
And you just take out what youlike and you leave what doesn't.
And that's something that thethird line does really well.
But we also say that the thirdline is trial and error.
You need to try so much stuff.
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And so we say that the thirdline can't fail.
Third and sixth lines you guyscan't fail because you like, you
break stuff on purpose, becauseyou need to see how it works.
So now imagine you're this onethree line and, as a generator,
you show us the mastery.
You show us okay, well, you getrid of all of the stuff that
didn't work for you.
You show us what has worked foryou.
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How valuable is that kind ofexperience?
First and foremost, right,think about that for a moment.
But let's say you were a.
Let's take a completelydifferent profile.
Let's take a 4-2 profile, forinstance.
Right, the opportunist andhermit, that person who might
also be a generator.
They need to constantly like,establish who the right people
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are.
They have write or die peoplethey don't have like just
acquaintances.
People with a fourth line theyhave like their network is
everything and they got it andthey almost become friends with
their clients a lot of the time.
But then that second line theyneed to be alone a lot of the
time.
Right, so they don't.
We also call them the giftedchild.
They don't actually need totake a lot of certifications.
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They're like they will, andobviously, to gain some
expertise for that mastery theymight have to, but they
generally tend to be quite goodat something already.
And so imagine if you knew thisand you started understanding.
It's just like, oh okay, well,I actually need to speak to
people.
So then we have a generator whoneeds to investigate and who
needs to break shit down.
It's very important for youbecause you have a resilience
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the rest of us don't have.
That's what we need from you,and you show us how to find
satisfaction.
But a 4-2 line might show usokay, well, here are the right
people that I can connect you to.
But also, sayonara guys, I needto go and just do my own shit
right now.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
I notice you're using a lot of language.
This is what we need from you,and what I'm really hearing is
language around like lifepurpose and what you're meant to
do and what the world wantsfrom you and how you contribute
to the world, and what I'mloving about that is, I think,
what is my life purpose and whatam I meant to do?
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And getting direction onsomeone's North star is what so
many people are seeking, but notknowing how to figure that out.
And I've been there so manytimes and I'm constantly
adjusted Like what am I meant todo?
What is my life purpose?
And so are you saying thathuman design can help us during
these moments of uncertainty andtransition and figuring out
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what we're meant to do on thisplanet.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
I think it definitely can help with that.
So the one thing and I alwaysput a little asterisk on there
I'm not someone who says thathuman design tells you what job
you would be good at, because Ithink that takes free will away
from people.
Everyone can be a leader,everyone can be rich, we can all
be everything.
Human design isn't limiting,but can it direct you towards
your purpose?
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I think it can, and that's whatmakes it so powerful.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
I want to read to you something I read on your
website when I was researchingyou, which it says that
conventional rules and systemscan only get us so far.
You are helping your clientsdrop the shoulds to create new
rules of engagement using theirhuman design.
So how is this approach goingagainst the quote unquote
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mainstream way to do business?
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Conventional marketing is always looking at
what are some of the rules thatapply to the public, right?
So when we have research andwhen we have studies and the
thing is, studies andregulations and rules of thumb
are a really cool way tounderstand how do the masses
work, what is normal, what is abaseline right.
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But when we start applyingthese things and so I'm going to
take marketing, for instance weknow that when we technically
I'm not saying it's right orwrong when we apply a little bit
of emotional pressure that it'smore likely for someone to buy
I'm not personally a fan of that, but it works because big
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companies pay a lot of money forthat to happen but then you
have people who might bestarting their business or who
might be entrepreneurs andsolopreneurs and they don't have
like 100K in capital to justspend on marketing experts who
do this stuff for you, and nowthey feel that they have to
start applying this, but itdoesn't feel an integrity and
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they actually get backlash andbecause they haven't got this
huge brand behind them, suddenlythey get people complaining
about this.
Again, it depends on who youare like.
Psychological't matter if theydo something right.
So there are all of thesefeatures that come in.
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And so when I say it goesagainst the grain, when I say it
goes against the conventionsbecause there are a lot of
courses and a lot of programsand a lot of mentors out there
that say follow my three-stepstrategy, follow these exact
steps and the thing is it's notthat they're wrong.
They're not wrong by saying ifyou were to follow these steps,
you are going to see results.
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But what does happen is thatthe people who might not have
the emotional, energetic andmental capacity to actually
follow these steps right, solike, let's say, the traditional
like post three times a day bereally edgy.
Comment Gary V's $1.80 strategy.
Have you seen that before you?
Basically, the $1.80 strategyis basically this thing you
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follow 10 hashtags and youcomment on 10 posts in those
hashtags to get engagement.
So you have like a hundredposts that you comment on a day
to create engagement and thething is it works.
But if you want to killyourself afterwards, I mean
what's the point afterwards?
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I mean what's the point right?
So, like, success and financialwealth is really not interesting
to me if it doesn't also comewith how happy am I and how much
sleep am I getting and do Ihave time for my people and can
I travel and can I say the wordsthat I actually want to say
without hiding myself, right,because there are a lot of like.
I've worked with a lot of richpeople and I know a lot of rich
people who are miserable becausethey're following strategies
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like this, and so when I say itquestions convention, it's that
I can't go out and tell youfollow my exact strategy, which
is like this is literally likemy marketing.
I'm like I'm not telling youwhat to.
I'm telling you how you woulddo the thing that you do, based
on human design and based on thething, because what works for
me may not work for you.
I'm a projector.
Things work differently for me.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Okay.
So much of that resonated.
I'm thinking about so manytimes, even this year, where I
wanted to start the year reallystrong and I had really
ambitious goals and I'm somebodywho's naturally motivated, I
have a lot of energy, I'mcomfortable sacrificing periods
of my life for future returns,and so I started the year really
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strong.
I was executing on a ton ofstrategies, posting multiple
times a day on social media,pitching myself to like a
hundred different events in aweek, and I was doing everything
I was supposed to do and itfelt so exhausting and it felt
so shallow and it didn't feellike me.
It didn't feel like I wasgetting to wake up every day and
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do what I want to do.
And what I'm hearing is there'sa world where we can do that?
Is there's a world where we cando that?
Do you think that there's anasterisk there?
Is there some types of peoplewhere just following what you
want to do won't actually leadto success?
How do we know the differencebetween leaning into our human
design and, I don't know, justmaybe lazy is not the word, but
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not being ambitious enough?
Speaker 2 (17:29):
I think those are two different questions, but I love
the question.
So I don't think that not beingambitious enough or ambition
and doing what you want.
I think they're mutuallyexclusive and they're not,
because you can sometimes wantto do what it is that you want
to be doing, but you might havelost motivation.
But that doesn't mean you'regenerally not ambitious, it just
might mean that you are actingoutside of your current capacity
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and first of all, to that Ithink I would say give yourself
a little bit of grace, becausethat's the thing.
Right, you said these exactwords.
I was doing all the things thatI thought I should be doing and
I'm like well, they will get youresult right.
Law of physics every action hasan equal reaction.
If you pitch to a hundred showsand you do this consistently,
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you will get an answer from oneor more eventually.
Right, and this is just likelaw of averages.
But the question is and I thinkthis is why I think these are
two different questions you canabsolutely go for quantity, and
sometimes it's necessary to dothat.
Sometimes it's necessary tohave like spurts of quantity,
but it's not sustainable.
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And if we don't know about youbut I haven't met one
entrepreneur that has gone intoour world and I say our world as
in like entrepreneur, whateverit is that you're doing for
yourself, thinking I wonder howI can make this the most boring,
mundane thing, where I justthrow spaghetti at the wall and
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do the same thing each and everyday, hoping I get paid.
I haven't met someone who wentin there, because then we would
have just stayed in ourcorporate jobs, because that's
exactly what we did.
I worked in sales.
I had a call sheet right Everyday.
I needed to have hours and Ineeded to call a certain amount
of people, and death would havebeen.
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It wouldn't have been goodenough for what I did there,
because I'm just like just, it'snot enough, I need to get as
far away as possible as I can.
It sounds like I use an extrememetaphor, on purpose, obviously
, but then we find ourselves asentrepreneurs doing the exact
same thing again and it's justlike okay.
Well, maybe the question isn'twhat is the most quantity that
we can do, but how can we becomemore effective with doing the
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work that we know moves theneedle, while also being happy,
while also staying sane, whilealso doing the very thing we
said we went into business, for,to begin with, freedom.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
What is the most surprising insight that you
learned about yourself duringthis exploration of human design
?
Speaker 2 (19:56):
That I know a lot more than I give myself credit
for Also.
So I think explaining how I gotinto human design will also
answer that question a littlebit.
So when I I think around likefive years ago that question a
little bit.
So when I think around, likefive years ago, I was part of a
mentorship program that chargedquite a lot of money and it was
like, obviously I was juststarting, I was first year in my
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business really, and I wasfollowing the exact steps that
my mentor was sharing at thetime.
I'm pretty sure she was amanifesting generator, is a
manifesting generator, and sothey were like okay, well, here
are the steps that you need totake in this, skip those steps
and just do these and then youget to your solution fast, like
literally.
Like I love it when people talkand I'm like their keynote,
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their exact chart.
It's like it's, it's so good.
I get very excited by that.
But the thing is, I didn't knowwhat human design was at the
time and she wasn't teaching it,and that's okay, right.
So at the end of the like Ithink it was a three month or a
four month program I was justlike well, I'm doing everything
that you're saying, but I'm notseeing the results.
I don't know what's happening.
I'm actually doing the thingthat you're saying and I have
less people than I did beforeLike what is up with me?
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Because I was sharing, like Iwas a perfect student.
She's just like, well, what'syour human design?
And I'm like I have no idea.
She's just like, well, go dothe thing.
Same website that I shared.
And I was just like I'm aprojector, what does it?
She was just like, well, ifyou're a projector, of course
this doesn't work for you.
I'm like, and so then I starteddiving in and I think at that
point she only just started outdoing this.
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I was very bitter in thebeginning, which is a very
projector feeling.
To feel this bitternessgenerators will feel frustration
, and so I started studying it.
I'm a five one, so Iinvestigate, right, like I
investigate and I look and I'mlike so it went really, really
deep.
And so that I hope that kind ofanswers the question and what
I've learned.
I've learned that traditionalmarketing doesn't work for me
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and, to be honest, what I'velearned.
I've learned that traditionalmarketing doesn't work for me
and, to be honest, traditionalmarketing again, how do we break
the rules.
Right, that's exactly what I'mabout no-transcript.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
What about a time where it challenged your own
beliefs?
I see laughing and nodding.
Tell me, does it ever?
Speaker 2 (22:09):
stop this identity work?
I mean, can we go through thislife and start to grow without
ever breaking down who we are asa person?
I think that's something thatI've learned on my entire
entrepreneur journey is, if wewant to grow, mindset work is
necessary.
It's unquestionably necessary.
You can't have success withoutworking on yourself, and while
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it's not necessarily humandesign that did it, there were
certain parts of me in the verybeginning, and I think everyone
does this to some extent.
You see a system and itresonates so deeply with you.
It's very easy to give thatsystem a lot of power, and it's
very easy.
So that's what I did.
I was just like, well, accordingto human design, I'm not, I'm
not here to work a nine to five,right, and so I was leaning on
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this.
I was almost excusing myself,and then I was pissed off
because I'm like, well, I'm notseeing results, but I'm a
projector, so I can't go and askpeople to do things.
I can't go and do things.
And so I think a big lesson anda big challenge that I've had
to learn was take everythingwith a grain of salt.
But also, just because, again,there is a system doesn't mean
it's a rule that like it's asystem that's trying to teach.
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You still have to find out foryourself how you're going to use
that tool, and so not to becomevictim to a tool, because it's
very nice to blame somethingelse and be like well, according
to this system, I can't dosomething, but it's also
incredibly disempowering.
And so I think, when we startto understand, okay, well, I can
use a tool to my advantage or Ican let it use me.
(23:33):
Which one do I want to choose?
Speaker 1 (23:35):
right, that makes sense.
I can imagine people learningthis information about
themselves and then, rather thanbeing empowered by it, using as
an excuse for why they're notsucceeding at something or why
they're not going to dosomething, and then just using
that as a reason to not act.
And so what I'm hearing is wewant to use these as tools to
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empower ourselves, but there'sno silver bullet with anything
in life.
There's no solution to anythingwhere, once you figure it out,
this is the exact path to follow.
As much as some of us mightwant that right, I think so much
of us just like want theconfidence and clarity because
that uncertainty of like what Ishould be doing can be so
uncomfortable for some people.
Would you agree that that'ssometimes just a mindset shift
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and not knowing and thatuncertainty?
There's a way to actually havethat be fun and that could be
what makes life a little bitexciting.
Does that resonate with you atall?
Speaker 2 (24:28):
I think it's a requirement actually for it to
be fun.
I don't know about you, buteverything is up to perspective
is my perspective.
A really cool example I saycool example, I'm biased,
obviously.
A really cool example that Ilike using is we can throw a
hundred people into a movietheater.
Everyone has the same seat,everyone's watching the same
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movie, everyone has the samepopcorn, everyone has the same
jackets, everyone has like every, everything's the same right,
but you would have a hundreddifferent experiences, and so
does that mean that the movie isbad or does the movie is
objectively good?
It doesn't.
It just means that we, as aperson, we need to understand
that there are certain variablesto us that will influence our
perspective, and so is itnecessary to make it fun.
(25:14):
I think it's a requirement justpurely because we have this age
of the Internet whereeverything is instantly
accessible to us Opinions,medical advice, anything
possible.
You start Google, searchingsomething, and you get bombarded
with like here are like 7million, 7 trillion examples,
and it's like first of all,thanks, but also, which one do
(25:37):
you then choose?
Like, which one do you believeout of these things and what is
true?
And I think, understanding thatthat is overwhelming and,
rather than everything needingto be instantly gratifying.
Oh well, we need.
We need to get this likeambition.
Going back to what you said inthe beginning, I wanted to start
the year off strong Like we'veall done it.
I've certainly done it, butthen what does strong look like
(26:00):
for us, and why does it alwayslook like overachieving, and why
does it always look like havingbig?
Why does starting off strongalways look like overachieving
and why does it always look likehaving big?
Why does starting off strongalways look like we have to be
productive a lot?
Why can't starting off strongbe?
I'm having a lot of fun and ifmy output is bigger than what I
want it to be, well great.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
What if the output isn't as big as you want it to
be?
But you're having fun.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
What if the output isn't as big as you want it to
be?
But you're having fun, well, Ithink you're winning.
Isn't the whole reason?
We all do something in thislifetime to figure out what the
meaning is for us.
Right, like very philosophical,but like what's the meaning of
life?
And it's like, well, if you'rehaving fun doing it, it doesn't
feel like a chore and it feelslike you're breezing through
life.
Which, surprise, surprise, whenyou do that, you think you're
being lucky.
But actually, if we're goingback to energetics, that's how
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you attract.
You have to learn human design.
The more fun you have, it'svery likely you are attracting
opportunities, people, places,money, all of the funny things,
but it's because we putourselves under pressure.
Oh, but do we look good enoughin front of these people?
Are we meeting theirexpectations?
Are we having that white picketfence?
(27:08):
Where I grew up, it was likelike my parents, east Germany,
before the wall came down, theywere just like Adina, don't
worry about your hobbies.
I wanted to sing, I wanted todo musical performance.
They were just like no, no, no,no, no, you're going to become
a doctor, a lawyer or somethingthat makes a lot of you.
Don't have to like it.
You can do your hobby on theside, and I'm like but your
hobby on the side?
And I'm like but I'm going tobe doing it for 65 years or
likely more.
(27:29):
Why should I not like what I do?
Well, because you can havemoney to spend.
And I'm like look at all thedoctors and lawyers who don't
have enough money right now.
Well, they're miserable even ifthey have money.
And I'm like well, I think funis a currency that we don't give
enough credit to.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
I agree, and in terms of the work that you're doing
now.
So you're a full-timeentrepreneur.
You do like a mix of businessand I would say even life
coaching correct me if I'm wrongand human design is a tool that
you use to supportentrepreneurs in that journey.
Has this been your business,offering the whole time?
Speaker 2 (28:03):
What were you doing prior to this?
So it's surprising how muchcoaching with life things I do
because it affects your businessand I think that's something
that we definitely shouldshowcase more that business
coaching affects everything.
So I very often I talk with myclients about, like, their dates
that they're having.
I'm like, okay, well, this is asimilarity with your clients
and like, oh my god, I didn'teven realize this and it's
(28:24):
really nice to have that example.
But, god, I didn't even realizethis and it's really nice to
have that example.
But I actually I didn't evenknow what coaching was before I
started it.
And then I see this woman on apodcast show called Marie Fulio
and I'm like, oh fine, whatever,I'll just listen to this, put
it on the site.
And she's just like, yeah, well, and then I do coaching.
I'm like, what the hell iscoaching?
(28:51):
So I Googled and I'm like I'vebeen doing this my entire life,
giving people advice, guidingpeople, and they got better
because of it.
And I'm like, okay, well,that's when I start.
So then I started off with lifecoaching.
So I took a couple of mycolleagues and I'm like, so I
have this thing that I wouldlike to try.
Can I just try this with you.
So I asked them I'm like, wouldyou, would you be my guinea pig
so that I can see if I'm anygood or what I need to do better
.
And they did it with me.
It was beautiful.
And then I realized that Iwasn't quite into life coaching
so much, because everyone justtried to get me to fix their
dating life and I'm like I justdon't know.
(29:12):
What I did find out I was reallygood at was sales psychology,
because I was pissing my bossesoff at the time massively
because all these KPIs, thesekey performance indicators that
I had, I didn't meet.
But I always overachieved,except twice in my entire like
seven plus year career, and theywere just like well, adina, but
you're not meeting your 40calls a day and you're two times
(29:33):
called out.
And I'm like, but I did justachieve 110% of my nearly really
revenue target, giving you anextra 3 million a year.
I'm like, what's the problem?
Yeah, but you're not gettingthe call times.
And so my reward foroverachieving was being given a
higher target and more work, ofcourse, right.
And so I realized that I'mreally good at sales and I'm
(29:54):
really good at this psychologybit of what makes someone buy
from you and it's not.
How can I pester someone and bethe most annoying person and
how can I gaslight them intothinking that you need them?
It was relationship building,and so that's when business
coaching started to become athing.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
When did human design become part of it.
So at this point you're now.
You tried it on your colleagues, but they were coming to you
with dating problems.
So then you realize I couldactually work with entrepreneurs
.
Or were you working withcompanies at the beginning?
Speaker 2 (30:26):
I think I started off almost immediately with
entrepreneurs.
So I got this course called BSchool from Maria Folio, the
lady that I got, and also beforethat I got the course from Ash
Amberjay fantastic lady.
She has a blog called theMiddle Finger Project, so she's
my people.
And so through thosecommunities, I basically started
(30:46):
meeting entrepreneurs andfellow entrepreneurs and
obviously you exchange servicesfor testimonials.
And then people were like, ok,well, this is really good.
And so I slowly started tobuild my portfolio of clients,
doing some free work in thebeginning.
Again, whether that was optimalis a different question.
It was a path I took.
And then I got into thismentorship program with this
(31:08):
manifesting generator mentorthat I talked to you about, and
I was just like, okay, well, Iwant to, I want the high ticket,
I want all of these things.
And then doing all of thesethings, and then it's just like,
yeah, well, if you're aprojector, then you will
probably find that that feelsgross and that that doesn't work
for you, and I'm like, well,for fuck's sake.
So then I started studying itand I'm like, well, if this is
(31:30):
valuable for me, it's probablyvaluable for my client.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
From then on, human design has been a part, so for
five odd years, if not more.
Okay, and so now human designis a tool that you're using in
your business coaching.
Do you have any othercertifications or tools Like
sometimes we hear about NLP ordifferent other modalities that
you're interested in thatsomeone could also look into for
their own coaching business?
Speaker 2 (31:49):
I'm certified in NLP.
I'm doing my master'scertification as well through
Ecology, which is something thatI'm very, very proud of.
It's one of the coachingmodalities that I think is one
of the most valuable.
Again, I'm biased, but I reallylove that.
The idea of NLP is always okay.
Well, how can we empower ourclients to find an answer for
themselves?
I know that NLP for a while gota really bad rep.
(32:11):
It's just like if someone'strying to sell you with NLP and
I'm like if no one has the powerto brainwash you like.
But that's beside the point,completely by the point.
So, yeah, I'm certified in NLP.
I'm also certified in somethingcalled the Elevated Belief
Coach Method by Rylinda Morse,which is also something that I
use.
So we go into the beliefs, buthow deep they're seated, so
(32:34):
almost on an energetic level.
So we know limiting beliefs.
But then sometimes there arealso core beliefs that we don't
even think we believe, and so weuse muscle testing and we use
visualizations to sort of get tothe bottom of things and then
start anchoring them out, andthat's also a very powerful
thing that I do with my clients.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
The elevated belief system.
I've never heard of that before, amazing.
Okay.
So you've really leaned intothis coaching and it seems like
you've you've explored all thedifferent ways that you can
support your client in figuringout who they are at an energetic
level and have that reallyempower them and dictate how
(33:13):
they show up in their businessand how they pursue a life that
the pursuit of their goals isfun and it's enjoyable.
And these are just tools thatwe can use to uncover who we are
, to help us have more fun inpursuit of our goals.
Is that right, yeah?
Speaker 2 (33:27):
absolutely Well and also create more wealth.
Ultimately right, like that'swhat we're doing in business.
How do we make more money?
Because, surprisingly, makingthe money is actually the easy
part.
It's believing that you canmake the money and allowing
yourself to do that.
That's the hard part.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Hmm, okay.
Well, if people are listeningto this and they're like, okay,
well, if people are listening tothis and they're like, hey, I'm
loving everything I'm hearing,I would love to know more about
who I am and how I can use thisin my business.
Are you working exclusivelywith entrepreneurs?
If so, how could we work withyou?
How could we find out moreabout your offers?
Speaker 2 (34:02):
so anyone who wants to learn more about themselves.
Obviously, business coachinglends itself to entrepreneurship
, so it's always nice to have achat and see where it goes to.
But I offer human designreadings.
So if that is something thatyour audience might be
interested in, if they want tobe like, okay, well, actually
that sounds interesting, I dooffer them.
I'll create a special code foryou, so there's a hundred
dollars off for your audience ifthey would like that.
(34:24):
Yeah, obviously, like, get intouch if you just want to learn
a little bit more about it,because I can't stop talking
about it, as you can hear.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
I know I want to really revisit my chart after
this conversation and lean intoit more, because it's been a few
years and I feel like it's also.
Once you have a human designreading, you get all this
information about yourself andit might be hard to master it
all and to understand it all andimplement it all, but then you
have that reading that you canrevisit during various periods
of transition in your life, likethe last time I used it was
(34:56):
when I really needed to leaninto what should my next step be
?
And maybe I'm feeling called torevisit it and reach back out
to people like you because I'min that phase again and now I
can revisit that chart readingand all those details to help me
with my next step.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Yeah, absolutely.
And I mean like if I even go alittle bit further, if you have
someone coaching you on thisright, so if you were to use it,
the way that I do it with myclients is like I know, when
someone's a manifestinggenerator, I'm like you're just
like too much into this onething.
We need to give you otheravenues.
And suddenly you see themdeflate and they're like expand,
and I'm like sometimes youdon't even need to always go
(35:31):
back to your chart as long asyou like.
Okay, well, my thing is mastery, my thing is investigating, my
thing is breaking down thetraditional and taking what
works and then sharing it withother people.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Okay, cool, love it Okay Reading plus coaching.
My final question for you,adina.
I know we've gone over.
You've been so generous withyour time and I really
appreciate you even helping merevisit my chart.
This show is all about thefreedom lifestyle.
When I invited you to be on thefreedom lifestyle podcast, how
did that term resonate with you?
(36:03):
What is your version of free?
Speaker 2 (36:17):
My version of free is having choices, having options
and whether that I think, moneyis always a big part of it,
because we are a society that isdriven by money.
If I had it my way, we wouldn'tneed money, but that's utopia
at this particular point.
And so having options andhaving the choices of if I want
to go a certain place, if I wantto leave a space that doesn't
feel right for me, if I want tolive in a certain space, then I
(36:39):
don't have to be like, well,what am I capable, what am I
allowed to do, but rather isthis what I want?
And I think like that choice tome is pure freedom.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
The freedom of choice .
Yeah, Love that.
Thank you so much, Adina, forcoming on the show and sharing
your wisdom with us in all thedifferent ways we can uncover
who we are and then use thatknowledge to empower ourselves
to make more money, but alsohave fun while doing it, Because
if not, what's the point right?
Thank you so much for having meand, yes, absolutely Thanks for
(37:12):
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action.
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too many ideas bouncing aroundin that beautiful brain of yours
.
You'd love some clarity on yourstrategy, what you should
pursue first and why.
Well, I am now offeringone-on-one freedom coaching
(37:32):
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you're listening to a new episode of the freedom
lifestyle podcast and today youare going to meet adina, who is
a business coach that works withentrepreneurs to help them
understand how their uniquehuman design can be leveraged as
a tool to create more wealth intheir business but, more
importantly, to have more fun inpursuit of their goals.
I cannot believe it's beenalmost 100 episodes of the
(00:26):
Freedom Lifestyle podcast and Ihaven't had someone on here yet
who can talk about human design.
It has been a resource not onlyfor my own business but my life
, and it truly changedeverything.
As cliche as it sounds, Idistinctly remember the day I
got my very first human designreading.
The day I got my very firsthuman design reading and if I
had to describe it in onesentence, it was permission to
(00:54):
finally just be myself.
It was so frigging powerful.
But, like anything in life, youwant to pick and choose the type
of information that you receivefrom these tools and really
treat personality testing andtools like human design as a
resource in a lifelongexploration of figuring out who
we are, what makes our lifeexciting and what makes our life
meaningful to us.
This is something that Adinareally stresses.
She says the worst thing youcan do is get a reading and
(01:16):
basically treat it as your lifeBible, treat it as the absolute
truth and sometimes treat it asan excuse for not doing the
things that could actually helpyour business and help your life
, because your human design toldyou energetically that's not
right for you.
Always a disclaimer with thesethings, but they are very
powerful.
Another disclaimer and note isthat I did record this episode
(01:37):
in a setting that maybe wasn'tthe best for podcasting.
I was in Whistler, big openspace, big open room, with a
little bit of an echo.
So shame on me, but I think itwas so important to just get
this information out.
It's too valuable.
Adina is too much fun, you'regonna love her and so, taking my
own advice, perfection is notthe goal here, friends, and I
(01:59):
just tried to edit myself out asmuch as possible.
So, on that note, get ready tolearn and get ready to meet a
really amazing entrepreneur.
With no for the delay, here isAdina.
Adina, welcome to the FreedomLifestyle Podcast.
How are you doing today?
How are we?
Speaker 2 (02:18):
feeling, feeling amazing.
I get to see you again, whichis an absolute bonus to my day
yes and uh yeah, no, I'm feelinggood.
It's three o'clock here in theafternoon in the UK, so I've had
some good caffeine intakealready.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
I've been in the vibes what would you normally be
doing at three o'clock in theafternoon if you weren't on an
interview with me that I can saypublicly I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
No, I'm joking.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Oh my god, now I need to know what.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
No, that was a joke, or was it?
I keep things very loose.
According to my human design, Ihave a few things that I need
to do, but as far as thestructure is concerned, it's
like okay.
Well, if it's like this everyTuesday, it's bad.
So I need to give myselfoptions.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Okay, I like that.
You said according to yourhuman design.
I'm hoping in today'sconversation we can pull out
some high level examples, mostlyto help somebody hear in very
practical terms how knowing whatyour human design is could
impact how you're makingdecisions, could impact what
types of things you're sayingyes or no to, potentially, how
(03:26):
it might be able to enhance someof the things that you're doing
already at a very like highlevel.
And then really it's up to theaudience to then go take the
next step, which would be to geta reading or really dig deeper
into what their unique humandesign is.
And so, when we're really usinga tool like human design, how
does it differ from otherpersonality typing systems like
(03:49):
astrology or Myers-Briggs, whichis one that I've used a lot in
work settings and even in mypersonal life, and you know,
throw in some dating datingexperiences there.
How does it differ?
Speaker 2 (04:01):
So Myers-Briggs and StrengthsFind and all of these
things, they're all likepsychological tests and, to be
honest, like I want to know whatyour type is.
I'm a campaigner, so I'm likeI'm always really interested to
hear what people are.
Human design uses astrology,but the best way that I can
describe it and this is so.
The answer is going to be alittle bit longer, but I'll try
to keep it as short as I can.
We know that, biologically, ourDNA is unique to us.
(04:25):
We share certain similaritieswith other people.
There are certain chromosomesthat are active and non-active.
Anyone who, like I, loved DNAwork in biology class was one of
my favorite things Loved it.
But we also know that justbecause certain parts are active
or inactive means that,therefore, our entire genetic
makeup can change based on that.
(04:46):
So, based on that, human designis essentially exactly the same
, except it's your energetic DNA.
That's how I like to describeit.
So human design uses themodality of astrology, of the
Kabbalah, of the I Ching, of thechakra system, but it puts them
all together.
So, rather than getting just acake or a starter at a
(05:08):
restaurant, you basically get tolook at the whole buffet and
you get to look at okay, well,oh okay.
So we have fish and we have,like, maybe not the best example
, but you see where I'm goingwith this, the way that you can
then look at well, how doeshuman design teach me?
How can I make decisions formyself?
As it basically starts with thetip of the iceberg.
Anyone who starts off learningabout human design always learns
(05:29):
like the top three, maybe thetop four things, right your type
, your strategy, your authorityand then maybe your profile or
incarnation cross, depending onwho you're following, right, so
those are like my.
My top four is always thesethings.
Start with them, but then youcan take years going into the
rest, because now you're lookingat okay, well, the type has a
(05:50):
certain energetic makeup.
So let's take you, for instance, as a generator.
Are you pure generator ormanifesting generator?
Pure, pure generator?
Okay.
So every type has a theme thatthey would go through life with,
that they're here to outputinto the world.
And let's say that the type isrepresentative of okay, well,
what is the character of a moviethat you're playing?
(06:12):
Okay, so if the character is agenerator, then that means you,
as that character, are here formastery.
You are here to show the restof us what it feels like to
delight in mastery, what truemastery looks like, what like
deep in the details.
That's what you're like todelight in mastery, what true
mastery looks like, what it likedeep in the details.
That's what you're here to showus, right?
So if you have a manifestinggenerator, for instance, that
(06:32):
would be their character wouldbe to show us the mastery of
shortcuts.
They're not here to go and getbogged down in the details.
They're here to find how can Iskip steps to get to the end
that you're trying to showpeople, just to show the rest of
us that life doesn't have to beso linear and that we get to
experience loads of differentthings.
Just based on that examplealone, you would show people who
(06:55):
are generators and manifestinggenerators work very differently
.
How can we show you, as agenerator, how to delight in the
mastery that you teach peopleright in the aspect of what
you're teaching people, or as amanifesting generator?
It's not for them to get boggeddown in the details, like I
said.
So how can I show them thatskipping steps for them is
actually the right thing andtrying like having many
(07:18):
different business ventures onthe on the site is also the
correct thing, because the worldhas taught us to finish what we
started.
That's not correct formanifesting generators all the
time.
Okay, so, based on thatknowledge, we can then start
looking at okay, well, typealone, okay, well, then we can
go deeper.
What's the profile, what's yourauthority, what's your strategy
?
Right, and so that would thenlayer all of these aspects.
(07:41):
Then we look at what are thecenters that are defined, what
are the gates that are fine, howare the gates defined in each
of the planets?
Just because you have gate 15and I might have gate 15, it
could have a differentexpression, and so I'm getting
very, very deep into here.
So I don't want you to be likebut no, I think.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
I think that's really practical examples and that's a
good reminder that, as agenerator, mastery is something
I want to be considering, and italso gives me permission to
remind myself that I can investin things I already know about,
to go from a nine out of ten ina skill to a ten out of ten, and
(08:20):
that is actually something I'vebeen feeling called to.
I've been feeling called toactually investing in more
public speaking courses, andsometimes, when I say that to
people, they would think, well,why are you taking a public
speaking course?
You're already a public speaker, you already do this, naturally
.
But no, I want to be the bestthat I can possibly be at it,
and it sounds like you just gaveme permission to do that, right
(08:41):
.
Okay, I'm signing up.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Well, I'm hoping that you give yourself permission,
but then, like, let's take it asyou know what your profile is
in human design.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
My profile is a one three, perfect.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
So, based on the type that we know we now understand,
okay, well, you're here forthis mastery.
You show us what satisfactionand mastery looks like, right?
So then, as a one three profile, you're here to get really
bogged down into the details.
You are here to build thefoundation of that knowledge, of
that mastery, because the 1 isthe investigator line and the 3
(09:15):
is the line that experimentswith stuff which we call the
martyr.
And so here's why this isreally cool, and then I'll show
you what it might look like withsomeone else, right?
So for you, for instance, youare going to want to investigate
all of the programs, all of thelike.
You can read articles.
You can also read the same bookmany times over and get new
information out of it.
You just love investigatingstuff.
You're the person everyonecomes to when they want to know
shit, right?
(09:36):
And then the third line, themartyr line.
You take a sledgehammer to theknowledge that you have gained,
you break it apart and you lookat the pieces and you're like,
okay, well, which one of thesework for me?
And you just take out what youlike and you leave what doesn't.
And that's something that thethird line does really well.
But we also say that the thirdline is trial and error.
You need to try so much stuff.
(09:57):
And so we say that the thirdline can't fail.
Third and sixth lines you guyscan't fail because you like, you
break stuff on purpose, becauseyou need to see how it works.
So now imagine you're this onethree line and, as a generator,
you show us the mastery.
You show us okay, well, you getrid of all of the stuff that
didn't work for you.
You show us what has worked foryou.
(10:17):
How valuable is that kind ofexperience?
First and foremost, right,think about that for a moment.
But let's say you were a.
Let's take a completelydifferent profile.
Let's take a 4-2 profile, forinstance.
Right, the opportunist andhermit, that person who might
also be a generator.
They need to constantly like,establish who the right people
(10:40):
are.
They have write or die peoplethey don't have like just
acquaintances.
People with a fourth line theyhave like their network is
everything and they got it andthey almost become friends with
their clients a lot of the time.
But then that second line theyneed to be alone a lot of the
time.
Right, so they don't.
We also call them the giftedchild.
They don't actually need totake a lot of certifications.
(11:01):
They're like they will, andobviously, to gain some
expertise for that mastery theymight have to, but they
generally tend to be quite goodat something already.
And so imagine if you knew thisand you started understanding.
It's just like, oh okay, well,I actually need to speak to
people.
So then we have a generator whoneeds to investigate and who
needs to break shit down.
It's very important for youbecause you have a resilience
(11:23):
the rest of us don't have.
That's what we need from you,and you show us how to find
satisfaction.
But a 4-2 line might show usokay, well, here are the right
people that I can connect you to.
But also, sayonara guys, I needto go and just do my own shit
right now.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
I notice you're using a lot of language.
This is what we need from you,and what I'm really hearing is
language around like lifepurpose and what you're meant to
do and what the world wantsfrom you and how you contribute
to the world, and what I'mloving about that is, I think,
what is my life purpose and whatam I meant to do?
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And getting direction onsomeone's North star is what so
many people are seeking, but notknowing how to figure that out.
And I've been there so manytimes and I'm constantly
adjusted Like what am I meant todo?
What is my life purpose?
And so are you saying thathuman design can help us during
these moments of uncertainty andtransition and figuring out
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what we're meant to do on thisplanet.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
I think it definitely can help with that.
So the one thing and I alwaysput a little asterisk on there
I'm not someone who says thathuman design tells you what job
you would be good at, because Ithink that takes free will away
from people.
Everyone can be a leader,everyone can be rich, we can all
be everything.
Human design isn't limiting,but can it direct you towards
your purpose?
(12:41):
I think it can, and that's whatmakes it so powerful.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
I want to read to you something I read on your
website when I was researchingyou, which it says that
conventional rules and systemscan only get us so far.
You are helping your clientsdrop the shoulds to create new
rules of engagement using theirhuman design.
So how is this approach goingagainst the quote unquote
(13:05):
mainstream way to do business?
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Conventional marketing is always looking at
what are some of the rules thatapply to the public, right?
So when we have research andwhen we have studies and the
thing is, studies andregulations and rules of thumb
are a really cool way tounderstand how do the masses
work, what is normal, what is abaseline right.
(13:29):
But when we start applyingthese things and so I'm going to
take marketing, for instance weknow that when we technically
I'm not saying it's right orwrong when we apply a little bit
of emotional pressure that it'smore likely for someone to buy
I'm not personally a fan of that, but it works because big
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companies pay a lot of money forthat to happen but then you
have people who might bestarting their business or who
might be entrepreneurs andsolopreneurs and they don't have
like 100K in capital to justspend on marketing experts who
do this stuff for you, and nowthey feel that they have to
start applying this, but itdoesn't feel an integrity and
(14:09):
they actually get backlash andbecause they haven't got this
huge brand behind them, suddenlythey get people complaining
about this.
Again, it depends on who youare like.
Psychological't matter if theydo something right.
So there are all of thesefeatures that come in.
(14:30):
And so when I say it goesagainst the grain, when I say it
goes against the conventionsbecause there are a lot of
courses and a lot of programsand a lot of mentors out there
that say follow my three-stepstrategy, follow these exact
steps and the thing is it's notthat they're wrong.
They're not wrong by saying ifyou were to follow these steps,
you are going to see results.
(14:50):
But what does happen is thatthe people who might not have
the emotional, energetic andmental capacity to actually
follow these steps right, solike, let's say, the traditional
like post three times a day bereally edgy.
Comment Gary V's $1.80 strategy.
Have you seen that before you?
Basically, the $1.80 strategyis basically this thing you
(15:11):
follow 10 hashtags and youcomment on 10 posts in those
hashtags to get engagement.
So you have like a hundredposts that you comment on a day
to create engagement and thething is it works.
But if you want to killyourself afterwards, I mean
what's the point afterwards?
(15:34):
I mean what's the point right?
So, like, success and financialwealth is really not interesting
to me if it doesn't also comewith how happy am I and how much
sleep am I getting and do Ihave time for my people and can
I travel and can I say the wordsthat I actually want to say
without hiding myself, right,because there are a lot of like.
I've worked with a lot of richpeople and I know a lot of rich
people who are miserable becausethey're following strategies
(15:56):
like this, and so when I say itquestions convention, it's that
I can't go out and tell youfollow my exact strategy, which
is like this is literally likemy marketing.
I'm like I'm not telling youwhat to.
I'm telling you how you woulddo the thing that you do, based
on human design and based on thething, because what works for
me may not work for you.
I'm a projector.
Things work differently for me.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Okay.
So much of that resonated.
I'm thinking about so manytimes, even this year, where I
wanted to start the year reallystrong and I had really
ambitious goals and I'm somebodywho's naturally motivated, I
have a lot of energy, I'mcomfortable sacrificing periods
of my life for future returns,and so I started the year really
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strong.
I was executing on a ton ofstrategies, posting multiple
times a day on social media,pitching myself to like a
hundred different events in aweek, and I was doing everything
I was supposed to do and itfelt so exhausting and it felt
so shallow and it didn't feellike me.
It didn't feel like I wasgetting to wake up every day and
(17:02):
do what I want to do.
And what I'm hearing is there'sa world where we can do that?
Is there's a world where we cando that?
Do you think that there's anasterisk there?
Is there some types of peoplewhere just following what you
want to do won't actually leadto success?
How do we know the differencebetween leaning into our human
design and, I don't know, justmaybe lazy is not the word, but
(17:26):
not being ambitious enough?
Speaker 2 (17:29):
I think those are two different questions, but I love
the question.
So I don't think that not beingambitious enough or ambition
and doing what you want.
I think they're mutuallyexclusive and they're not,
because you can sometimes wantto do what it is that you want
to be doing, but you might havelost motivation.
But that doesn't mean you'regenerally not ambitious, it just
might mean that you are actingoutside of your current capacity
(17:53):
and first of all, to that Ithink I would say give yourself
a little bit of grace, becausethat's the thing.
Right, you said these exactwords.
I was doing all the things thatI thought I should be doing and
I'm like well, they will get youresult right.
Law of physics every action hasan equal reaction.
If you pitch to a hundred showsand you do this consistently,
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you will get an answer from oneor more eventually.
Right, and this is just likelaw of averages.
But the question is and I thinkthis is why I think these are
two different questions you canabsolutely go for quantity, and
sometimes it's necessary to dothat.
Sometimes it's necessary tohave like spurts of quantity,
but it's not sustainable.
(18:35):
And if we don't know about youbut I haven't met one
entrepreneur that has gone intoour world and I say our world as
in like entrepreneur, whateverit is that you're doing for
yourself, thinking I wonder howI can make this the most boring,
mundane thing, where I justthrow spaghetti at the wall and
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do the same thing each and everyday, hoping I get paid.
I haven't met someone who wentin there, because then we would
have just stayed in ourcorporate jobs, because that's
exactly what we did.
I worked in sales.
I had a call sheet right Everyday.
I needed to have hours and Ineeded to call a certain amount
of people, and death would havebeen.
(19:18):
It wouldn't have been goodenough for what I did there,
because I'm just like just, it'snot enough, I need to get as
far away as possible as I can.
It sounds like I use an extrememetaphor, on purpose, obviously
, but then we find ourselves asentrepreneurs doing the exact
same thing again and it's justlike okay.
Well, maybe the question isn'twhat is the most quantity that
we can do, but how can we becomemore effective with doing the
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work that we know moves theneedle, while also being happy,
while also staying sane, whilealso doing the very thing we
said we went into business, for,to begin with, freedom.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
What is the most surprising insight that you
learned about yourself duringthis exploration of human design
?
Speaker 2 (19:56):
That I know a lot more than I give myself credit
for Also.
So I think explaining how I gotinto human design will also
answer that question a littlebit.
So when I I think around likefive years ago that question a
little bit.
So when I think around, likefive years ago, I was part of a
mentorship program that chargedquite a lot of money and it was
like, obviously I was juststarting, I was first year in my
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business really, and I wasfollowing the exact steps that
my mentor was sharing at thetime.
I'm pretty sure she was amanifesting generator, is a
manifesting generator, and sothey were like okay, well, here
are the steps that you need totake in this, skip those steps
and just do these and then youget to your solution fast, like
literally.
Like I love it when people talkand I'm like their keynote,
(20:40):
their exact chart.
It's like it's, it's so good.
I get very excited by that.
But the thing is, I didn't knowwhat human design was at the
time and she wasn't teaching it,and that's okay, right.
So at the end of the like Ithink it was a three month or a
four month program I was justlike well, I'm doing everything
that you're saying, but I'm notseeing the results.
I don't know what's happening.
I'm actually doing the thingthat you're saying and I have
less people than I did beforeLike what is up with me?
(21:06):
Because I was sharing, like Iwas a perfect student.
She's just like, well, what'syour human design?
And I'm like I have no idea.
She's just like, well, go dothe thing.
Same website that I shared.
And I was just like I'm aprojector, what does it?
She was just like, well, ifyou're a projector, of course
this doesn't work for you.
I'm like, and so then I starteddiving in and I think at that
point she only just started outdoing this.
(21:27):
I was very bitter in thebeginning, which is a very
projector feeling.
To feel this bitternessgenerators will feel frustration
, and so I started studying it.
I'm a five one, so Iinvestigate, right, like I
investigate and I look and I'mlike so it went really, really
deep.
And so that I hope that kind ofanswers the question and what
I've learned.
I've learned that traditionalmarketing doesn't work for me
(21:48):
and, to be honest, what I'velearned.
I've learned that traditionalmarketing doesn't work for me
and, to be honest, traditionalmarketing again, how do we break
the rules.
Right, that's exactly what I'mabout no-transcript.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
What about a time where it challenged your own
beliefs?
I see laughing and nodding.
Tell me, does it ever?
Speaker 2 (22:09):
stop this identity work?
I mean, can we go through thislife and start to grow without
ever breaking down who we are asa person?
I think that's something thatI've learned on my entire
entrepreneur journey is, if wewant to grow, mindset work is
necessary.
It's unquestionably necessary.
You can't have success withoutworking on yourself, and while
(22:31):
it's not necessarily humandesign that did it, there were
certain parts of me in the verybeginning, and I think everyone
does this to some extent.
You see a system and itresonates so deeply with you.
It's very easy to give thatsystem a lot of power, and it's
very easy.
So that's what I did.
I was just like, well, accordingto human design, I'm not, I'm
not here to work a nine to five,right, and so I was leaning on
(22:51):
this.
I was almost excusing myself,and then I was pissed off
because I'm like, well, I'm notseeing results, but I'm a
projector, so I can't go and askpeople to do things.
I can't go and do things.
And so I think a big lesson anda big challenge that I've had
to learn was take everythingwith a grain of salt.
But also, just because, again,there is a system doesn't mean
it's a rule that like it's asystem that's trying to teach.
(23:13):
You still have to find out foryourself how you're going to use
that tool, and so not to becomevictim to a tool, because it's
very nice to blame somethingelse and be like well, according
to this system, I can't dosomething, but it's also
incredibly disempowering.
And so I think, when we startto understand, okay, well, I can
use a tool to my advantage or Ican let it use me.
(23:33):
Which one do I want to choose?
Speaker 1 (23:35):
right, that makes sense.
I can imagine people learningthis information about
themselves and then, rather thanbeing empowered by it, using as
an excuse for why they're notsucceeding at something or why
they're not going to dosomething, and then just using
that as a reason to not act.
And so what I'm hearing is wewant to use these as tools to
(23:55):
empower ourselves, but there'sno silver bullet with anything
in life.
There's no solution to anythingwhere, once you figure it out,
this is the exact path to follow.
As much as some of us mightwant that right, I think so much
of us just like want theconfidence and clarity because
that uncertainty of like what Ishould be doing can be so
uncomfortable for some people.
Would you agree that that'ssometimes just a mindset shift
(24:18):
and not knowing and thatuncertainty?
There's a way to actually havethat be fun and that could be
what makes life a little bitexciting.
Does that resonate with you atall?
Speaker 2 (24:28):
I think it's a requirement actually for it to
be fun.
I don't know about you, buteverything is up to perspective
is my perspective.
A really cool example I saycool example, I'm biased,
obviously.
A really cool example that Ilike using is we can throw a
hundred people into a movietheater.
Everyone has the same seat,everyone's watching the same
(24:50):
movie, everyone has the samepopcorn, everyone has the same
jackets, everyone has like every, everything's the same right,
but you would have a hundreddifferent experiences, and so
does that mean that the movie isbad or does the movie is
objectively good?
It doesn't.
It just means that we, as aperson, we need to understand
that there are certain variablesto us that will influence our
perspective, and so is itnecessary to make it fun.
(25:14):
I think it's a requirement justpurely because we have this age
of the Internet whereeverything is instantly
accessible to us Opinions,medical advice, anything
possible.
You start Google, searchingsomething, and you get bombarded
with like here are like 7million, 7 trillion examples,
and it's like first of all,thanks, but also, which one do
(25:37):
you then choose?
Like, which one do you believeout of these things and what is
true?
And I think, understanding thatthat is overwhelming and,
rather than everything needingto be instantly gratifying.
Oh well, we need.
We need to get this likeambition.
Going back to what you said inthe beginning, I wanted to start
the year off strong Like we'veall done it.
I've certainly done it, butthen what does strong look like
(26:00):
for us, and why does it alwayslook like overachieving, and why
does it always look like havingbig?
Why does starting off strongalways look like overachieving
and why does it always look likehaving big?
Why does starting off strongalways look like we have to be
productive a lot?
Why can't starting off strongbe?
I'm having a lot of fun and ifmy output is bigger than what I
want it to be, well great.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
What if the output isn't as big as you want it to
be?
But you're having fun.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
What if the output isn't as big as you want it to
be?
But you're having fun, well, Ithink you're winning.
Isn't the whole reason?
We all do something in thislifetime to figure out what the
meaning is for us.
Right, like very philosophical,but like what's the meaning of
life?
And it's like, well, if you'rehaving fun doing it, it doesn't
feel like a chore and it feelslike you're breezing through
life.
Which, surprise, surprise, whenyou do that, you think you're
being lucky.
But actually, if we're goingback to energetics, that's how
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you attract.
You have to learn human design.
The more fun you have, it'svery likely you are attracting
opportunities, people, places,money, all of the funny things,
but it's because we putourselves under pressure.
Oh, but do we look good enoughin front of these people?
Are we meeting theirexpectations?
Are we having that white picketfence?
(27:08):
Where I grew up, it was likelike my parents, east Germany,
before the wall came down, theywere just like Adina, don't
worry about your hobbies.
I wanted to sing, I wanted todo musical performance.
They were just like no, no, no,no, no, you're going to become
a doctor, a lawyer or somethingthat makes a lot of you.
Don't have to like it.
You can do your hobby on theside, and I'm like but your
hobby on the side?
And I'm like but I'm going tobe doing it for 65 years or
likely more.
(27:29):
Why should I not like what I do?
Well, because you can havemoney to spend.
And I'm like look at all thedoctors and lawyers who don't
have enough money right now.
Well, they're miserable even ifthey have money.
And I'm like well, I think funis a currency that we don't give
enough credit to.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
I agree, and in terms of the work that you're doing
now.
So you're a full-timeentrepreneur.
You do like a mix of businessand I would say even life
coaching correct me if I'm wrongand human design is a tool that
you use to supportentrepreneurs in that journey.
Has this been your business,offering the whole time?
Speaker 2 (28:03):
What were you doing prior to this?
So it's surprising how muchcoaching with life things I do
because it affects your businessand I think that's something
that we definitely shouldshowcase more that business
coaching affects everything.
So I very often I talk with myclients about, like, their dates
that they're having.
I'm like, okay, well, this is asimilarity with your clients
and like, oh my god, I didn'teven realize this and it's
(28:24):
really nice to have that example.
But, god, I didn't even realizethis and it's really nice to
have that example.
But I actually I didn't evenknow what coaching was before I
started it.
And then I see this woman on apodcast show called Marie Fulio
and I'm like, oh fine, whatever,I'll just listen to this, put
it on the site.
And she's just like, yeah, well, and then I do coaching.
I'm like, what the hell iscoaching?
(28:51):
So I Googled and I'm like I'vebeen doing this my entire life,
giving people advice, guidingpeople, and they got better
because of it.
And I'm like, okay, well,that's when I start.
So then I started off with lifecoaching.
So I took a couple of mycolleagues and I'm like, so I
have this thing that I wouldlike to try.
Can I just try this with you.
So I asked them I'm like, wouldyou, would you be my guinea pig
so that I can see if I'm anygood or what I need to do better
.
And they did it with me.
It was beautiful.
And then I realized that Iwasn't quite into life coaching
so much, because everyone justtried to get me to fix their
dating life and I'm like I justdon't know.
(29:12):
What I did find out I was reallygood at was sales psychology,
because I was pissing my bossesoff at the time massively
because all these KPIs, thesekey performance indicators that
I had, I didn't meet.
But I always overachieved,except twice in my entire like
seven plus year career, and theywere just like well, adina, but
you're not meeting your 40calls a day and you're two times
(29:33):
called out.
And I'm like, but I did justachieve 110% of my nearly really
revenue target, giving you anextra 3 million a year.
I'm like, what's the problem?
Yeah, but you're not gettingthe call times.
And so my reward foroverachieving was being given a
higher target and more work, ofcourse, right.
And so I realized that I'mreally good at sales and I'm
(29:54):
really good at this psychologybit of what makes someone buy
from you and it's not.
How can I pester someone and bethe most annoying person and
how can I gaslight them intothinking that you need them?
It was relationship building,and so that's when business
coaching started to become athing.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
When did human design become part of it.
So at this point you're now.
You tried it on your colleagues, but they were coming to you
with dating problems.
So then you realize I couldactually work with entrepreneurs
.
Or were you working withcompanies at the beginning?
Speaker 2 (30:26):
I think I started off almost immediately with
entrepreneurs.
So I got this course called BSchool from Maria Folio, the
lady that I got, and also beforethat I got the course from Ash
Amberjay fantastic lady.
She has a blog called theMiddle Finger Project, so she's
my people.
And so through thosecommunities, I basically started
(30:46):
meeting entrepreneurs andfellow entrepreneurs and
obviously you exchange servicesfor testimonials.
And then people were like, ok,well, this is really good.
And so I slowly started tobuild my portfolio of clients,
doing some free work in thebeginning.
Again, whether that was optimalis a different question.
It was a path I took.
And then I got into thismentorship program with this
(31:08):
manifesting generator mentorthat I talked to you about, and
I was just like, okay, well, Iwant to, I want the high ticket,
I want all of these things.
And then doing all of thesethings, and then it's just like,
yeah, well, if you're aprojector, then you will
probably find that that feelsgross and that that doesn't work
for you, and I'm like, well,for fuck's sake.
So then I started studying itand I'm like, well, if this is
(31:30):
valuable for me, it's probablyvaluable for my client.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
From then on, human design has been a part, so for
five odd years, if not more.
Okay, and so now human designis a tool that you're using in
your business coaching.
Do you have any othercertifications or tools Like
sometimes we hear about NLP ordifferent other modalities that
you're interested in thatsomeone could also look into for
their own coaching business?
Speaker 2 (31:49):
I'm certified in NLP.
I'm doing my master'scertification as well through
Ecology, which is something thatI'm very, very proud of.
It's one of the coachingmodalities that I think is one
of the most valuable.
Again, I'm biased, but I reallylove that.
The idea of NLP is always okay.
Well, how can we empower ourclients to find an answer for
themselves?
I know that NLP for a while gota really bad rep.
(32:11):
It's just like if someone'strying to sell you with NLP and
I'm like if no one has the powerto brainwash you like.
But that's beside the point,completely by the point.
So, yeah, I'm certified in NLP.
I'm also certified in somethingcalled the Elevated Belief
Coach Method by Rylinda Morse,which is also something that I
use.
So we go into the beliefs, buthow deep they're seated, so
(32:34):
almost on an energetic level.
So we know limiting beliefs.
But then sometimes there arealso core beliefs that we don't
even think we believe, and so weuse muscle testing and we use
visualizations to sort of get tothe bottom of things and then
start anchoring them out, andthat's also a very powerful
thing that I do with my clients.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
The elevated belief system.
I've never heard of that before, amazing.
Okay.
So you've really leaned intothis coaching and it seems like
you've you've explored all thedifferent ways that you can
support your client in figuringout who they are at an energetic
level and have that reallyempower them and dictate how
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they show up in their businessand how they pursue a life that
the pursuit of their goals isfun and it's enjoyable.
And these are just tools thatwe can use to uncover who we are
, to help us have more fun inpursuit of our goals.
Is that right, yeah?
Speaker 2 (33:27):
absolutely Well and also create more wealth.
Ultimately right, like that'swhat we're doing in business.
How do we make more money?
Because, surprisingly, makingthe money is actually the easy
part.
It's believing that you canmake the money and allowing
yourself to do that.
That's the hard part.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Hmm, okay.
Well, if people are listeningto this and they're like, okay,
well, if people are listening tothis and they're like, hey, I'm
loving everything I'm hearing,I would love to know more about
who I am and how I can use thisin my business.
Are you working exclusivelywith entrepreneurs?
If so, how could we work withyou?
How could we find out moreabout your offers?
Speaker 2 (34:02):
so anyone who wants to learn more about themselves.
Obviously, business coachinglends itself to entrepreneurship
, so it's always nice to have achat and see where it goes to.
But I offer human designreadings.
So if that is something thatyour audience might be
interested in, if they want tobe like, okay, well, actually
that sounds interesting, I dooffer them.
I'll create a special code foryou, so there's a hundred
dollars off for your audience ifthey would like that.
(34:24):
Yeah, obviously, like, get intouch if you just want to learn
a little bit more about it,because I can't stop talking
about it, as you can hear.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
I know I want to really revisit my chart after
this conversation and lean intoit more, because it's been a few
years and I feel like it's also.
Once you have a human designreading, you get all this
information about yourself andit might be hard to master it
all and to understand it all andimplement it all, but then you
have that reading that you canrevisit during various periods
of transition in your life, likethe last time I used it was
(34:56):
when I really needed to leaninto what should my next step be
?
And maybe I'm feeling called torevisit it and reach back out
to people like you because I'min that phase again and now I
can revisit that chart readingand all those details to help me
with my next step.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Yeah, absolutely.
And I mean like if I even go alittle bit further, if you have
someone coaching you on thisright, so if you were to use it,
the way that I do it with myclients is like I know, when
someone's a manifestinggenerator, I'm like you're just
like too much into this onething.
We need to give you otheravenues.
And suddenly you see themdeflate and they're like expand,
and I'm like sometimes youdon't even need to always go
(35:31):
back to your chart as long asyou like.
Okay, well, my thing is mastery, my thing is investigating, my
thing is breaking down thetraditional and taking what
works and then sharing it withother people.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Okay, cool, love it Okay Reading plus coaching.
My final question for you,adina.
I know we've gone over.
You've been so generous withyour time and I really
appreciate you even helping merevisit my chart.
This show is all about thefreedom lifestyle.
When I invited you to be on thefreedom lifestyle podcast, how
did that term resonate with you?
(36:03):
What is your version of free?
Speaker 2 (36:17):
My version of free is having choices, having options
and whether that I think, moneyis always a big part of it,
because we are a society that isdriven by money.
If I had it my way, we wouldn'tneed money, but that's utopia
at this particular point.
And so having options andhaving the choices of if I want
to go a certain place, if I wantto leave a space that doesn't
feel right for me, if I want tolive in a certain space, then I
(36:39):
don't have to be like, well,what am I capable, what am I
allowed to do, but rather isthis what I want?
And I think like that choice tome is pure freedom.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
The freedom of choice .
Yeah, Love that.
Thank you so much, Adina, forcoming on the show and sharing
your wisdom with us in all thedifferent ways we can uncover
who we are and then use thatknowledge to empower ourselves
to make more money, but alsohave fun while doing it, Because
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