August 23, 2024 • 58 mins
Can being pro-life extend beyond opposing abortion? Discover how valuing life from the womb to the grave informs crucial decisions regarding foster care, adoption, and child welfare in our latest episode of Foster Fridays. Wendy shares her recent seminar experience with Linda Bell, shedding light on the deceptive nature of Amendment 4 on the Florida ballot. We examine why followers of Jesus Christ must stay informed and proactive, especially in the wake of Roe vs. Wade being overturned. Learn how you can use resources like the Do No Harm Florida website to mobilize your church community and engage in meaningful conversations about the sanctity of life.
In a heartfelt discussion, we delve into the harmful effects of abortion through real-life testimonies and personal stories. Wendy recounts a poignant narrative about the severe consequences of chemical abortions, highlighting the misinformation and physical, emotional, and spiritual toll it takes on women. We emphasize the critical need to vote against Amendment 4 and stress the importance of registering to vote. With guidance on how to have impactful dialogues using scripture and genuine concern, this episode provides practical steps for making a difference in your community.
Linda Bell joins us to unpack the implications of state constitutional amendments, drawing from a white paper by the Center for Christian Virtue. Highlighting alarming statistics and the risks of vague amendment language, we discuss the role of pastors in educating their congregations and the broader impact of grassroots mobilization. We also explore concerns about government overreach and the necessity of unwavering spiritual leadership. Finally, we celebrate life through community events like the Walk for Life, encouraging active participation in supporting child welfare initiatives. Join us in this call to action to defend truth and stand up for the sanctity of life.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:27):
Just to kind of catch up with our listening family.
This is in a sense not in asense, it is truly a part of our
newest segment, foster Fridays,and you know it's a longer
story and even sharing with theladies in the studio, you know
we've made connections with somany different ministries and
foster care and adoption andit's something close to my heart
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personally and so, uh, you knowit's, it's one of those things,
you know, as you serve the lordand you have things even
personally that he's called youto, it kind of bleeds together.
And so, uh, you know, talkingwith our pastors and our
leadership, he said, you know,I've always mentioned, hey, hey,
could we talk about this moreon the radio?
I'd like to do more through theradio, and so they've so far
given the green light and thenewest iteration of that is
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Foster Fridays, which, again,for those of you listening, it's
just Fridays, ending the week,looking at foster care, adoption
, pro-life pregnancy centers,issues that we're going to be
voting on, just as all of thesethings related to child welfare,
the well-being of our kids, thesafety of our kids, and again,
I'm sure we're going to get intohow so much of this is so
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connected.
These issues are so connectedand so related.
So it's funny because I've beensaying you know, foster, friday
, the first 15 minutes, thefirst 20 minutes, it's going to
be over the phone and it's likeboom, it's just exploded to in
person the full hour we're goingto talk about these issues.
So I'm so excited.
So, thank you, everybody that'stuned in.
But one of the most importantthings we wanted to talk about
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today was this Amendment 4.
That's on the ballot in Florida.
So, ladies, I know this issomething that you guys have
been looking at Tell us about it, tell us what's going on,
please.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Well, I'm going to let Wendy take the lead.
I know she recently was at aseminar, workshop, an event with
Linda Bell and heard firsthandfrom Linda all about what's
going on right now.
We've been talking about thisissue for how long now?
Months now, yeah, months, andhere we're at the point where
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people need to really hear aboutit, but especially God's people
, followers of Jesus Christ, andso we're talking to his people,
we're talking to y'all, becauseyou need to know the truth, and
so I'm going to let Wendy kindof take that first stab at it.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Go at it, yeah, you know, pastor Joey, as you were
mentioning the things thatFridays are standing for and the
things that you're advocatingfor, and it just just makes, it
just reminds me that all ofthose issues have one thing in
common that we do it becausewe're it's an extension of who
we are as followers of jesuschrist, not because we're good
people and not because it's anindividual cause that's close to
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our hearts.
All of it stems from the factthat in god's word there's that
he says that there's value tolife, from birth to the, from
the womb to the grave.
Right, linda and so the womb tothe tomb
Speaker 2 (03:27):
sometimes they say yes.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
And so everything related to what you said about
foster care, about adoption,pro-life.
So at the Pregnancy Centerwe're pro-life, not because we
affiliate with any party, butbecause the word of God says
that we're image bearers of him,and so that's why we're
pro-life, and so this is not apolitical issue, this is a faith
issue, and if you are afollower of Jesus Christ, then
you're definitely pro-life,because it is an extension of
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who you are in your heart.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Again, I love it.
I mean, I have no means tointerrupt, but again just
because of the word you know.
And again, this is a toughthing and it's I'm really.
It's on the same subject, youknow.
I hope I'm not leaving thesubject, but it's tough because,
oh, politics and this and thatand all you have to walk on
eggshells, but this is not apolitics thing.
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You know this Amendment 4 thingis not a politics thing.
So again, continue just beingpro-life and and getting into
what amendment four is so to thetheme of we are being light in
this dark world and this is whatamendment four is.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Amendment four is a very vaguely worded amendment.
I know that you've had otherguests on here, pastor joey, who
have talked about amendmentfour, so and I want to repeat
too much of what being said, butit is so important to
understand how we got here.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
I gotta interject because I would like you to to
really get into it what it says,what it's about, and I know
you're going to get to it it'svery deceptively written from
the beginning.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
You know, and it's and I want to again and and this
is not to get on us, all of usbut I want to repeat a little
bit of how we got here, becauseit is important to understand
that we cannot stay silent andwe can't be complacent about
what's to come in the electionsin November.
You know, roe versus Wade wasoverturned and we were all
celebrating that and it was agood thing to celebrate.
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But you know what thepro-abortion side was doing.
They were already readyingthemselves for war and for
battle, and when they said we'regoing to take it to the states,
they took it to the states.
Look what has happened since Roeversus Wade was overturned how
many states, including Ohio,which Linda will talk about in a
little bit were able to place apro-abortion, abortion on
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demand amendment into theirconstitution.
You know, and then you haveGod's people standing around
going.
How did this happen?
We live in the state of Florida, we have a pro-life governor,
pro-life both chambers, theSenate and the representatives.
How did it come to this point,to where we're about to vote on
whether abortion on demand canbe in our constitution or not?
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And so what the other side did,what the pro-abortion side did
last year.
They were gathering signaturesand can I tell you something,
there were a lot of conservativeChristians who signed that
petition because there werestudents, because is that like
public record kind of thing, orit's just from asking around?
No, no, what the other side,what the pro-abortion side did
is they hired people from out ofstate in their 20s they came
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into our state, they were payingthem $20, $25 an hour and they
were standing outside of Publix,Walmart, every gathering places
, and they were telling us andwe know from experience that
they were lying about what theywere signing.
They were saying sign thispetition because right now women
are dying.
You can't have an abortion inthe state of Florida and,
unfortunately, a lot of peopleare not informed about what the
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law is.
And so here were, people weresigning it and and I know that
the pro-life side was saying, oh, they're not going to get
enough signatures Well, guesswhat they did?
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
And so now this goes before the Florida State Supreme
Court and we were saying well,this court interprets the law
correctly.
There is no way that they'regoing to allow this.
Language is deceptive.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
It is vague.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
The justices are not going to allow this to go
forward because of how theyvoted, how they've interpreted
law in the past.
And guess what?
Four against three, the fourmen said it is vague, it is
deceptive.
But let the voters decide.
And the three women dissentedbecause they said we have the
power and it is our right rightnow to say that this is
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deceptive and this is vague andit cannot go forward to the
voters.
So that's how we're here In apro-life state with pro-life
legislation, pro-life leaders,now with an amendment that's
going to restrict any future law.
If this passes with 60% or moreof the voters, it doesn't
matter what law tries to passhere in the state of Florida,
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because abortion is going to beprotected in our Constitution.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Wow, wow, wow, wow.
That's what's at stake.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Yes, and while all of that was going on, what were we
doing as Christians?
We were all dumbfounded, but weshouldn't have been.
We should have been followingwhat happened in Ohio and, yeah,
there was chatter andconversation about oh, but here
we were dumbfounded.
And then where are we today?
Are you seeing any ads?
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Are you hearing any ads about?
Now we're at.
Okay, this has got to be agrassroots thing, but is that
enough?
Speaker 4 (08:24):
So now we're at the 11th hour, because we know from
what happened in Ohio that anynew campaign that came after
Labor Day was already too late.
But it's good, at least we'rehere, we're talking about it.
I know there's a lot ofinformation that has been shared
.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Now there's some things that I don't want to
interrupt, but there's somethings that I'm picking up on.
Now.
There's some things I don'twant to interrupt, but there's
some things that that I'mpicking up on.
Number one, which I knew this.
I heard the language, but tillthis moment, I just realized
what it meant A constitutionalamendment, and you'd said the
implications.
This now supersedes, in a sense, any other future laws.
(09:01):
Now again, you know, here'swhat's interesting, and maybe
this is relevant To me.
It didn't matter.
And again here, you guys, youladies, are probably going to
look like well, how could younot?
It didn't matter, because I'mgoing to vote.
No, you know, I'm going to goand I'm going to vote.
But what is on the line, howhigh the stakes are, I didn't
realize.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
The fact that it's a constitutional amendment of the
state constitution.
So abortion is going to beprotected in our constitution.
And if you, if I can just readthe first part of the amendment.
It says no law shall prohibit,penalize, delay or restrict
abortion.
Okay, that's just the firstpart of it.
More words to it no law.
This is in our constitution, wow.
So if this passes, it doesn'tmatter that the majority of the
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legislators are pro-life andthat they've been protecting
life with legislation that hasbeen introduced.
All the work that has been doneover the past number of years
for nothing.
Yeah, because now abortion isgoing to be allowed up to birth,
and I know I've spoken to somepeople who say, oh, that can't
be up to birth.
Read it in the language yeahthey use terms like viability,
which, joey.
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No one can define whatviability means.
What is viability?
Is it 20 weeks of pregnancy?
Is it birth?
Is it and um?
I sat in on a meeting wheregovernor desantis was speaking
and he did say if this passes,this is going to make us the
mecca for the world in regardsto abortion not just in the
united states, but in the world,and you know what the
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pro-abortion side is seeing.
This is the test, because ifthey can do it in the state of
florida, they can do it anywhere.
We are a pro-life state and ifthey can pass an amendment like
this into our constitution, thatmeans that they can do it
anywhere yeah, if you just tunedin, we're talking with linda
and wendy from eve's wholepregnancy center and we're
talking, uh, a lot about.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
I know we're going to talk a lot about, uh, or about
a lot of different things, butwe're going to spend the
majority of our time talkingabout amendment four.
That's pretty much the titleamendment four in florida yes,
okay amendment four here inflorida, the the uh fact that as
a christian, you need to voteno, and and god's radio, we will
stand by that statementunequivocally, and we were
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speaking about it before we wenton the air and I'm sure we'll
speak about it again as pastors.
Uh, I know at our calvarychapel, miami, our pastor has
been saying it very clearly andI pray that more pastors,
leaders and churches would saythe same.
And, uh, all that to say.
So we're talking aboutamendment four.
Um, we're talking about thestakes that are on the line.
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I mean the incredible.
Um, I mean that's the way yousay it, right, what's on the
line?
And, uh, if you're catching up,if you have a specific question
while we're speaking, I'm happyto field those questions.
Again, I'm going to take careof my guests here.
Uh, you know we've never hadanybody belligerent or or
anything like that on the radio,but just know that I'm gonna,
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you know, be a good host.
You can ask any question thatyou would like and you could
text.
We'll field the questions andanswer them as best we can.
The phone number to the studiois 786-313-3115.
So you read the first line.
We're talking about how.
Again, how incredible, howincredible is the word that this
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has even gotten this far andyou are going to continue from
there.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Well, one other thing I wanted to say.
As you were talking aboutsomebody calling in and
potentially having somethingnegative to say, I just want to
share with you that we have adifferent viewpoint on abortion,
because we are a pregnancycenter and so we're kind of like
at the ground level.
We see the risk and the effectsand the aftermath of what
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abortion is, and so we're notspeaking from a political
standpoint, we're not speakingfrom just being against abortion
for the sake of being againstabortion.
We know that God's word saysthat he protects life even in
the womb.
But we can both to the harmfuleffects of what abortion is.
It is not a pro-woman issue.
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Can I tell you something?
This is a very harmful thingfor women and a lot of our
volunteers have testimoniesabout having experienced it and
the regret and the aftermath andeverything that comes
afterwards.
This is not.
This is how god presents hislife and death and there's so
many deathful parts of, if I cansay it that way, to the
aftermath of an abortionspiritually, mentally,
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emotionally, all the damage thatis not tracked, you know, even
medically some of the physicalafter effects of it, and so for
us, it's on a personal level.
That way, we know that God loveslife and he loves women, and we
see what this is doing forwomen.
And so that's why it's such apersonal and very heartfelt
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thing and to ask people toplease vote no on Amendment 4.
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Well, I'll share a quick story with you because a
lot of people know the type ofwork that I do and the ministry
that I'm involved with.
A lot of them will share theirstory with me.
And I recently heard a story ofa woman who, not too long ago,
sought abortion and she took thechemical pills.
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She ended up hemorrhaging andhaving to go to the emergency
room.
And these stories you don'thear about, but this one I heard
about it and the woman ended uphaving to have a hysterectomy
and removal of one of herovaries okay, from a chemical
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abortion, and we think we don't—which they probably call the
quote-unquote safe one.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Is that probably how they refer to it?
Yes, yes, wow.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Yes, it's as easy—the women are being told it's as
easy as taking an aspirin, butthey're not being told it's a
regimen of pills that they takeand it's a process, and so
unfortunately, it's actually aflat out lie.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
It's not as easy as taking an aspirin.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Right, right, yes, and there are.
So we hear these stories, weknow firsthand.
We have a nurse chat line,we've heard from women who are
taking the pills and and some ofthe things that happen to them.
So we know, yeah, we know.
Our eyes are open.
God has allowed us to see andhave open eyes.
So when we look at this and andwe know the harm that abortion
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causes as wendy said, yeah,physical, physical, emotional,
spiritual, mental, I'm surewe'll circle back around, but
but I want to make sure thatpeople have very specific and
practical information.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
For example, and and I'm just being fully transparent
here, I hope you know there'sthere's grace, uh, for it truly.
I know there was an opportunityto vote just recently.
I asked specifically someone.
I said is the amendment fourissue gonna still be there for
me to vote no later in thenovember?
Speaker 4 (16:05):
it's only a primary election.
It was not.
I mean sorry, I'm gonna correctmyself yeah, yeah general
election in november.
It was not on the primaryballot so it was not at all.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
It was not okay.
No, that's a general election,okay, okay right, uh, I made
sure I said hey, if this is myonly chance, I'm, I'm bye kids,
I'm figuring out, I gotta govote so.
So I was told that it's gonnabe there november no, it's gonna
be the general election, sospecifically, and it might just
be as simple as you know go votein november.
If that's it, that's it.
But what do we need to do incase somebody's they're they're
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tuning out, they're going to getout of their car.
What do they need to dostarting today?
Speaker 4 (16:40):
OK, well, first of all we know from statistics that
in churches look the populationof the churches in the state of
Florida.
If everybody got out to voteand voted no on this, easily
defeated.
Speaker 6 (16:51):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
Easily defeated because of the number of
churches that we have, biblebelieving Jesus following
churches, but we know that umstatistically most churches,
only 50 of the people areregistered to vote and out of
those 50 that are registered tovote, only 25 show up to vote
that is a low.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
So what is the?
Speaker 4 (17:09):
step number one is registered to vote, and I know
that that may seem like a reallyhard thing to do, but I'm going
to guide you to a website youcan either go to the florida
department Elections or easierto remember website.
This is where I'm gonna getsome of the information that I'm
gonna share today is called dono harm Florida org.
Okay, and this is a pack that isset up specifically for
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amendment for but, there is aregister to vote button on there
and you can hit that and youcan register to vote.
You have until October 2nd, Ibelieve, to be able to be
eligible to register to votebutton on there and you can hit
that and you can register tovote.
You have until October 2nd, Ibelieve to be able to be
eligible to vote in the Novemberelection DoNoHarmFloridaorg.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
DoNoHarmFloridaorg.
I want to make sure to get someof the paperwork and flyers, if
you have extra, so maybe we canput it up on some of our sites
and stuff as well.
So register it up on some ofour sites and stuff as well, um,
so register by I mean registerright this weekend, register now
, but uh, but, but definitelywithin the month, you know,
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october 2nd, cut off, and thenget out there and vote in
november.
That's what I need to, I wouldimagine, and and share this and
tell people share oh, yes,absolutely tell people.
We need to vote.
No, talk to people, right.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Exactly when we first heard about this, I told Wendy
this is going to be a grassrootskind of thing.
We don't want it to be.
We want PACs to be out thereand we want advertising and all
of that, but we need to share itwith everybody we know.
So when I see somebody that Iknow, I say, oh, have you heard
about Amendment 4?
And I let them know vote no.
And why Can I ask you?
Speaker 2 (18:40):
something I want to get very personal here for a
moment.
Either of you.
Have you gotten any pushback?
I mean, you're passionate.
This is important.
You're spending, I'm sure, muchof your time and energy sharing
this with people.
Have you gotten any pushback?
Or well, you know, stop tellingme, or any, because I got it.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
I'll share with you because I got it.
I'm thinking of the listener,that maybe they're timid.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
You know they're shy or they're scared, or what are
people going to say?
Speaker 3 (19:03):
I'll share this with you because the first time I did
that with the person that I saw, I was at a restaurant and I
looked at her.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
This was a stranger.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
And she said I think I know you.
And I say I think I know youtoo.
So I said, oh, go for it, girl.
And I shared with her because II knew, I knew her in my
christian circles.
Okay, so I believe she was afollower of jesus christ and and
I shared with her about thelord and and you know, you know
I've been reading and studyingthat we're image bearers, I'm
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creating the image and you know,there's this amendment, number
four, and this is what it wantsto, to, to to enshrine abortion.
But God doesn't want that.
God has gifted us individuallyto be his image bearers and we
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have a responsibility, and sothat's kind of how I went about
it with her and she kind oflooked at me in the very
beginning.
But because I'm talking aboutGod's word and his scripture and
sharing with her about, youknow, god creating Adam and Eve
and what did God instruct themto do?
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He told them to procreate,populate.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
And she took it well she took it well.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
She didn't tell me oh no or walk away.
She listened, I said okay, ohno.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Amendment four and I love that because you went from
the word, from the Lord, youknow, very heartfelt, I got to
imagine that when this issomething that's in your heart,
when you're praying, when you'reseeking it's, it's, there's
that God element.
You know, you're not just therewith a sign.
You know and and and again, notthat that's bad.
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I mean, look, and maybe this isgoing off in left field here
and maybe you actually say, no,joey, we don't do that anymore.
Know, but but man, to even justpray, you know, pray outside of
a planned parenthood or acrossthe street or wherever is
appropriate, or man, you knowpeople.
I know that there's beensituations where those folks
have gotten flack or or or pushback or whatever, not that to
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not do that.
But I imagine that also it justcomes out in conversation, you
know, just in loving person toperson conversation.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
I think it's just like sharing the gospel you know
it's led by the Holy Spirit andyou just can't be afraid that.
And I think that that fearfactors the reason why the
church and as a whole I mean I'mincluding myself too that maybe
we've been afraid to speak upand we are to speak up and we
are to speak up when things likethis are happening and that's
why we're vocal about it.
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And I think, like you said, ifit's from a genuine place and
you speak with integrity, thatpeople are going to receive it.
And I haven't had an experiencewhere anybody has outrightly
challenged me on anything.
I I think I'm well informed.
We we make sure that we do ourhomework, and so, from that
standpoint, we're equipped andwe're ready and I wonder I'm
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connecting some dots here and Iwonder if it's that simple.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
I wonder if most people, if they really
understood what this was about,would not support it, and it's
just the deception that isgetting people going.
Well, let's talk about it thenI was just going to say hey, I
was going to say we're on numberthree.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
I was about to go to number three.
But before you go to number,three I just want to tell you
that when it says no law shallprohibit, penalize, delay or
restrict abortion, can I tellyou something?
We've seen it in New York,we've seen it in New York, we've
seen it in California.
Where it says delay abortion,they use that word to go after
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pregnancy centers, because thevery fact that we are presenting
her.
Before you make your finaldecision, please consider
options.
Here are some options.
Let us educate you that wewould then be delaying the
access to abortion.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Now I'm mad.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
And so now we're seeing it and we're not making
this up, we've seen how they goafter the pregnancy centers in
New York.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
You're saying we've seen this in other states
already, in New York and in.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
California.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
It's happening.
Speaker 5 (23:07):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
Okay, so that's a plug into how it would affect
pregnancy centers.
Before viability we alreadytalked about it.
It's very hard to define whatviability is.
Even the other side doesn'thave any experts that can tell
you.
This is exactly what viabilityis right.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Yes, it is not defined.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
It does not include painful late-term abortions
through birth.
It will include, excuse me,painful late-term abortions
through birth.
Okay, the next part.
It says or when necessary toprotect the patient's health.
Well, what is that related to?
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Yeah, that's super vague.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
Yeah, like what does it relate to your physical
health, your mental health, youremotional health?
Speaker 2 (23:49):
What part of your body's health is it talking
about?
Well, I like how it says here.
They can even stretch it to saywell, financial health yes.
That's, that's tough.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
Okay, so that's why it's vague?
Speaker 4 (23:59):
Yeah, it's determined by the health care provider.
Well, who is in the state ofFlorida health care provider?
Well, that's vague as well,because it could be a podiatrist
, it could be the nursepractitioner, it could even be
the receptionist I've heardLinda Bell say this, the
president of Florida Right toLife.
It could even be thereceptionist at an abortion
clinic.
Wow, in the Florida Right toLife, it could even be the
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receptionist at an abortionclinic.
So who is the health careprovider that's going to be
saying?
Speaker 5 (24:24):
that you have a health issue.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Okay, this amendment does not change the legislative
constitutional authority torequire notification to a parent
or guardian before a minor hasan abortion.
And you're looking at that andyou're saying, well, that sounds
good.
Well, what is notification Me?
Sending you an email Me sendingyou something in the mail
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afterwards like where?
Speaker 2 (24:46):
where is the notification defined?
Speaker 4 (24:47):
and so it doesn't say before and so just in contrast,
if people are not aware of howconstitutional amendments are
presented, usually the languagehas a summary like this, but
then there'll be like threepages afterwards defining what
each term means there is aconcept.
There's another constitutionalamendment that we're going to
vote on as well.
That amendment has three pages,has the summary version, just
like this does, and then pagesdefining.
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This means this this means thatthis abortion amendment, this is
it, this summary is thelanguage wow undefined terms,
nowhere else to be defined andthis is why the florida supreme
court should have struck it downand should not have been
allowed to go on the ballot,because they've done that in the
past.
In the past they've said thatvague, deceptive to protect the,
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the people of the state offlorida.
We're not going to allow thison the ballot unless it is
further defined yeah, I meanjust just the more you look at
it.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
It's just the deception.
The evil is so clear, so clear.
And, man, man, if you justtuned in, we're talking with
Linda and Wendy from Eve's HopePregnancy Center.
What's the website?
Speaker 4 (25:54):
The website that.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
For Eve's Hope.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
For Eve's Hope.
It's eveshopeinfo.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Eveshope's hope is eve's hopeinfo, eve's hopeinfo,
eve's hopeinfo online, and, uh,they do a ton of stuff.
They're amazing.
Uh, one of those is is goinggrassroots to to talk about
amendment four and the need tovote no and how much is on the
line.
But I did want to talk aboutsome other things as well and,
like I mentioned, we'll probablycircle back around to this
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because just the timeliness andthe importance of Amendment 4.
You may have some otherinformation there.
Yeah, it looks like you havesomething you want to say, linda
.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Yes, so I have a.
Actually it's called VitalSigns and it was produced by the
Center for Christian Virtue andit's like a white paper report
on what happened in Ohio, in thestate of Ohio.
So I have some things in herethat I kind of want to highlight
for everybody to hear.
So in the state of Florida, yes, and before you go there.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Why the comparison of Florida and Ohio?
What's the connection there?
Speaker 3 (26:54):
The connection is Ohioans didn't think this
amendment was going to pass okayand so they weren't prepared,
and we know what happened inohio and florida.
What did we say earlier, whenwe started out?
Speaker 5 (27:11):
we were dumbfounded.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Yeah, oh we.
We didn't believe that that theuh justices would vote the way
they did, and here we are wellthat the petition would get vote
the way they did.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
And here we are.
Well that the petition wouldget as many signatures as it did
so in Ohio.
This is a constitutionalamendment to their state
constitution.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Okay, the same requiring— Going down the same
road, basically.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
Supermajority to amend their constitution.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
So you were saying Ms Linda.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Okay, so I pulled out the Florida numbers for last
year.
Florida had— in the state ofFlorida we had 84,052 abortions
in the state of Florida, inMiami Florida, or let's just say
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, in Dade County.
In 2022, they had 18,488 intheir state.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
So our county numbers match the entire state of
Ohio's numbers.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Yes.
So can you see what's at stake,when we can potentially become
that magnet for all the otherlocal states for the women to
come and have their abortionshere in the state of Florida, a
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state we would become thedestination state in the South
but in the world.
So I wanted to mention thatnumber and there are some other
things here.
30% of Ohioans who believe lifebegins at conception still
voted to pass PlannedParenthood's extreme abortion
amendment.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Is there any explanation for that?
Is there any thoughts on onthat number?
Why?
Speaker 3 (28:59):
absolutely, because what they did is they polled the
people after, um, uh, afterthey voted.
So they had people polling them, and here's what they found
half of the self-identifyingevangelicals and catholics voted
yes to enshrine abortion in theOhio Constitution.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
Because of the wording.
Now, if we didn't break thisamendment down, this amendment
summary, if you just took it forface value, why were some
conservative evangelicalssigning the petition that
Planned Parenthood wascirculating?
One, because they didn't fullyunderstand it.
Two, because just on face value, if you're reading it quickly,
it sounds good, it doesn't soundas harmful.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Once you break it down and once you realize the
vagueness, you could interpretit as, if you don't read it
carefully, you can interpret itas oh, in an emergency, when you
really, really have to.
Of course, we would want tohelp and allow this right, but
that's not what it's saying atall exactly.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
So what happened?
The church got involved toolate, and that was one of the
things that comes out.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
This is now back to ohio, ohio yes.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
So the vital signs they say here.
The church got involved too,too late, and they found that
87% of the people who learnedinformation from their pastor
about the amendment voted no.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
What was the number?
Speaker 2 (30:31):
87%, let's pause right there and in case the
whole thing goes offline.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
What that means is pastors need to be telling your
people 87% of people who heardthe message of this
constitutional amendment and tovote no from the pulpit then
voted correctly.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
We have somebody on the line.
I wanted to take this phonecall.
That's why I kind of jumped inthere.
Good afternoon, you're live onGod's Way Radio.
Where are you calling us fromtoday?
Speaker 5 (31:00):
Good afternoon, Joey.
I'm calling from the beautifulcity of West Miami.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
The beautiful city of West Miami.
Speaker 5 (31:04):
What do you want to share?
Speaker 2 (31:05):
or ask our guests.
Speaker 5 (31:07):
No, you know, I love very much a lot of what they're
sharing, because some of thisyou don't get in the mainstream
media and just hearing themshare about how vague this whole
thing is set up, I mean itreminds me so much of and I
don't want to push any buttons,but you know, I know, you know,
back when the pandemic came,there was this whole thing about
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giving the government emergencypower in the middle of a health
crisis and all that, and Icouldn't help but think the same
thing.
Then, you know, similar to whatthey're saying now, how you
know this.
I don't know if to call itgovernment overreach, but this
idea, like just listening tothem talk about what do you
define as health?
Because you could very easilysay, hey, public health and
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safety is mental and if you sayanything against homosexuality,
you're affecting the mentalhealth of people and just seeing
the world go that direction.
I mean, for me it's justnothing more than a blessing to
hear these two ladies just standup for life and really stand
there in the gap for those thatevery time I say this I get, for
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those that don't have a voice.
So I applaud the both of you andI thank you so much for what
you do, because people need tohear this.
People need to hear how vaguethey're being, and it's on
purpose.
It is on purpose.
There is an agenda.
We don't war against flesh andblood.
There is something very muchbehind all of this and, as
believers, we need to stand upand be vocal, as vocal as these
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ladies.
We need to be as educated asyou guys.
It should not just be you, weshould all be experts in this
arena.
So I applaud you both and thankyou so much for the work that
you guys do.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
Thank you so much.
Thank you for thatencouragement and you're
absolutely right.
We just read a statistic abouthow effective the pastors can be
in doing this.
But it is all of our duties tobe speaking about truth.
And, yes, you're absolutelyright.
The underlying theme of thiswhole process of dis-amendment,
from its beginning and where weare, has been deception.
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And that is definitely theenemy's weapon is deception.
Speaker 5 (33:11):
Yeah, and you know, I have to say I love that you
guys mentioned that whole thingabout pastors and if any pastors
are listening and, joey, yougot to turn you tell me, turn
you, tell me, hey, stop.
But we know we a lot of timespeople get afraid oh, I don't
want to mix.
Uh, you know politics in thepulpit and we are not mixing
politics in the pulpit whenyou're talking about the defense
of life and and people reallyneed to, we really need to stand
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up for and I love that about.
At least our pastor is veryvocal from the pulpit about the
importance of supporting life.
Yeah, obviously not makingpolitical picks, but you know
hey you need to support life.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
This is not political , that's right.
This is definitely up theiralley and standing up against
something that very perverselystands against the truth of who
God?
Speaker 5 (33:51):
is, and I think that you make it and I'm sorry, you
make an amazing point.
People paint this as apolitical issue, but it's not.
Speaker 6 (33:56):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (33:59):
I think that's it.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
That's another part of the deception, but anyway, I
could keep going, thank you hey,maybe you'll be on the radio
soon, uh sharing and uh, youcould bring it up in your time
as well and it'll get brought upmore and more thank you.
Thank you, god bless you guys,thank you that brother's such a
blessing he he actually justkind of started guest hosting,
uh.
So he comes co-hosts with oneof well, you guys have met
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Pastor Raz, the founding pastor,so he's got a heart for radio.
He just started serving andit's a blessing, so I'm going to
hold him to it.
I'm going to say, hey, did youtalk about Amendment 4?
But Can I give you anotherstatistic, joey, if I can just
add to the Florida pastors.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
So in this Zoom meeting with Governor DeSantis,
his coalition shared that 30% ofthe pastors that they were
talking to here in the state ofFlorida did not want to touch
this.
Say again, say again the number30% of the pastors that they
were speaking to said that theydid not want to touch this in
the state of Florida.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Was there any explanation?
Yes, COVID has just happened,they're just now getting their
people back, and they don't wantto upset anyone they don't want
to.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
You can't see what I'm doing and so and it is not
to be derogatory to pastors inany way.
We just, we just need I'msaying that statistics show that
we need the pastors to stand up.
We need our pastors to be thespiritual leaders that god has
called them and we as a peopleneed to support when our pastors
like your pastor is out thereand he's, and he is standing up
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for the, the truth of god's word.
We need to then come alongsidethem and make sure they're not
standing alone.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Yeah you know, I I so appreciate that that kind of
disclaimer there.
You know, we don't want to sithere and be judge and jury, or
Monday morning quarterback asthey call it.
Thank you for that and I canresonate with that.
And we want to be so carefulhere at God's Way Radio.
That being said, you know, I'mthankful for our senior pastor.
(35:54):
I mean, I wish and I would hopethat everyone is doing the same
.
And again, he's very thoughtful,he's very careful with his
words.
You know, he's gotten up, youknow, and said, for example, one
time he said, hey, he said thisis funny.
He said, hey, guys, just beforewe start the Bible study and I
love that he separates it fromthe study he says, hey, I want
to make a few comments and thenwe'll pray and we'll get into
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our Bible study.
And you know, if it comes up inthe Bible study it's great.
But otherwise he doesn't try tokind of mix things in there.
And again, he's just sothoughtful.
But point is, he said, hey,before we start the Bible study.
You know, some people will sayI'm too political and some
people say I don't talk aboutpolitics enough.
And then he says, you know, Idon't think I talk about
politics that much.
(36:35):
However, today I'm going totalk about Amendment 4.
Today I'm going to mentionsomething and then he goes on to
say, hey, this is why this isharmful, this is why we need to
vote, no, this is why it'simportant.
And then he'll pray and we'lldo the Bible study.
So, just so important.
And again, you know, in thatsame Bible study, he'll say you
know, it's not about this partyor that party.
And you know, definitely, man,just great.
(36:58):
So I mean, what anencouragement.
And we've been on this forseveral minutes now.
Pastors, leaders, if you'relistening, be bold, be bold.
And if you're listening and youhave your pastor's ear,
encourage them, ask them.
You know, I can tell you as anassistant pastor don't come and
berate us or berate them, youknow?
Hey, I have a question.
Have you heard about this?
Have you been praying aboutsharing with the church?
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Do you need anything?
I'm gonna just try to get inthere and be an encouragement
and just be a blessing.
So, so important.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
And Linda's available to speak.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
Hey, if any church wants to invite.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
Okay, tell us more about that.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
She just volunteered me.
You got volunteered.
Listen, listen.
I have members on the board aswell that would be more than
happy to come out with me andspeak, linda and Wendy, I'll
come with you.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
You're just going to keep going back and forth.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
Wendy's available, linda's available, but we are
available if anyone wants toinvite us to speak to a group or
whatever it is.
It's just that important.
Yes, yeah, to speak to a groupor whatever it is, it's just
that important.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
Yes, yeah, for sure, and I'm reading another
statistic here for this whitepaper report from Ohio and it
says that Christians voting withthe culture 30% of the
Christians voted with theculture.
And I'm reminded of mygrandchildren.
I have teenage grandchildren.
I've got three teenagegrandchildren.
Oh, actually, two of them are20 now.
Oh, my grandchildren.
I have teenage grandchildren.
I've got three teenagegrandchildren.
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Oh, actually, two of them are20 now.
Oh my gosh Wow.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Young adult grandchildren.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
They're in college.
You know it's like, oh my gosh,they're Gen Zers and I do my
best to really understand theirgeneration and what speaks to
their heart and this issue.
I talk to them about this issue.
It's important for me that theyunderstand what's at stake and
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when life begins.
When does life begin?
And so if I'm talking about thescriptures and what God wants
from me and how I should votefrom me and how I should vote
there, is no question that Ineed to vote the way God wants
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me to vote, and that's how Ianswer the question.
okay, what is God expecting fromme as a follower of Jesus
Christ?
And if I'm an image bearer andhe says you know that we are to
procreate and populate the world, what are we supposed to do
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with this decision, when peopleare saying it's your body and
your choice, yeah, okay.
So what does God have to sayabout that?
And we know, you know, we know,as followers of Christ, he
wants us to do the thing that ismorally right.
And I encourage my grandchildrento do what God intends them to
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do or wants them to do, and yetwhen we do that, we can share
with them.
Yes, this is God speaking to usfrom his word, and we are going
to have an opportunity to vote.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
Amen.
You know, that phrase andargument has never made sense to
me.
It's another body, it's anotherperson we're talking about.
We're not talking about yourbody, we're talking about this
other person.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
But we also, the scripture says that we make our
bodies, we submit them right,because our bodies uh are the
temple in which god residesanother point yeah and so it's
not our bodies if we'refollowers of jesus christ.
Speaker 5 (40:27):
Amen and can I just share something yes linda was
talking.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
I had a question.
Speaker 4 (40:31):
I don't want to forget, and you, uh, had asked
us before.
You know, it's important, justlike when we're sharing the
gospel of Jesus Christ.
It's important that when you'retalking about this, that you
don't beat people over the headwith it either.
I mean, there you know, you saythis is how you should be voting
.
But a lot what we found inspeaking throughout Miami-Dade
County is that a lot offollowers of Jesus are just not
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informed in this area, and sothey're not coming from a place
of not wanting to vote that way,it's coming from a place of not
being informed.
So most of the time, you'regoing to be informing people to
vote correctly, and if you dothat, people are willing to
listen and be educated on suchan important issue as abortion.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
Yeah, you know, I got to imagine how many people I
got to imagine.
It's a big number that they'rekind of.
Would I say this?
There's a word for it.
Dis disinterested is not theword there.
They've got him frustrated withthe whole thing and now they
don't care anymore.
There's an english word, it'sconnected apathy apathetic,
maybe, or indifferent to justpolitics and voting, and they
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stole the vote and they didn'tsteal the vote, and it counts
and it doesn't count, and thisperson and that person, and, and
, and they don't realize that Ihear you yeah, yeah so.
So I'm gonna make an extremestatement in the sense of
appealing to those folks.
Not that I necessarilysubscribe to this myself, that's
my disclaimer.
Okay, fine, even if none ofthat matters and don't care
(41:52):
about any of that, but at leastvote on this thing.
You know what I'm saying.
Does that make sense?
That that might be, that mightappeal to some people, that,
okay, fine, let's say your votedoesn't count, or this or that,
or you don't care who's thepresident, or whatever, but this
, this matters.
You know, if you're a christianand you're fed up with the
system, at least vote on this Iagree with you, but we do need
to say that the elections domatter, right?
Speaker 5 (42:14):
at all levels, they do matter right.
Speaker 4 (42:15):
Amen At all levels.
They do matter and prayerfully,every Christian becomes as they
start to vote more and more.
I show up to every election.
Speaker 5 (42:23):
Amen.
Speaker 4 (42:23):
I mean because that's just my right and I'm a citizen
of this country and ourresponsibility.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
And our responsibility when you look at
a citizen.
Speaker 4 (42:31):
And so I look into who the candidates are.
But maybe not everybody's likethat, but this is how we express
the direction of our countryhere.
This is how we do it here inthis country, and so if you're
uninvolved, then what's thesaying?
Then don't complain about thedirection of our of our country.
If, spiritually, we're headingin the wrong direction and you
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don't vote well, then you haveyour opportunity to be part of
the whole, yeah, and, and yourvote does matter.
If you don't vote well, thenyou have your opportunity to be
part of the whole.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
Yeah, and, and your vote does matter if you didn't
participate, don't complain,kind of thing yeah and so, and
so.
Speaker 4 (43:03):
This is how we elect our king, right?
This is how we stand up for whoour leader is going to be.
This is how we vote for thepolicies that our country is
going to stand for, and so youdo have to show up and you do
have to vote thank you for thatregister to vote and then Don't
just show up to vote.
Yeah, especially when it comesto judges and all of that.
Can I tell you something?
This is one thing we don't lackin this country information and
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resources.
So we just have to make sure,especially in the media, that
you have a radio station, thatyou equip your listeners with
where they can go to be informedwhen they show up to vote.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
I'll tell you honestly, I kind of have a
secret weapon for that.
So our guest host on Thursdayshe's a gentleman named Ariel
Sagre.
He's an attorney and he alsohappens to be involved I don't
like saying politically, becauseI don't think that's the right
term he's on different, likecouncils and boards and stuff,
(43:53):
and so he has a good pulse onthese issues, current events,
legislation especially.
So I always ask him.
I said, hey, what do we need toknow what?
Speaker 1 (44:00):
do we need to be?
Speaker 2 (44:00):
talking about.
That's great so he's such anasset and such a blessing to the
ministry here.
I'm so thankful for him.
So, so not everybody has an adilike.
That's what I'm saying.
So you got to do your homework,you got to pray that the lord
will provide um, guys, uh,family, radio, family.
You know, if you can believe it, we're down to 15 minutes left
of our time together.
(44:21):
We've been here for over 45minutes.
There's a question I had that Ihope could be answered briefly,
and then there's other topics wewanted to talk about as well.
But if you're listening rightnow, you can call or text
786-313-3115 and you might bethinking okay, joey, fill me in.
I just tuned in.
What am I calling about?
What's going on?
Well, I'm talking quickly toget back to our guests, but let
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me catch you up.
It's linda and wendy from eve'swhole pregnancy center.
We've been talking pretty muchthe entire time about amendment
for, the need to vote no onamendment for, and talking about
what is at stake this upcomingnovember and talking about the
fact that all Christians need tovote no on Amendment 4.
And so we have somebody on theline.
(45:03):
We're going to take their call.
I did want to ask one question.
If this caller ID is correct.
My brother, just hang on for mefor just a moment.
But I would like to ask onequestion, because I think it's
important, if anyone is on thefence, and this is their
question if you could addresstheir question please.
It is well, you know, ifthere's an emergency or the
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mom's gonna die and everyone'sgonna die, and there's this
terrible emergency and rape andall these exemptions, well, if I
don't vote on this, then thenall the bad things are going to
happen.
I'm obviously summarizing verycrudely.
Speaker 4 (45:38):
Yes, so our current law in the state of Florida
allows abortion up to six weeks,but it does make an exception.
It makes exceptions for thecase of incest, rape or for the
health of the mother.
Now for the rape.
Obviously there's a policereport and something and that
needs to be presented becausethey need to catch whoever the
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offender was.
And so there's already thingsin place that will allow
abortion past six weeks in thoseareas of exceptions.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
And again, that's a whole other topic of what we
think about that God's word, howwe approach that, and I want to
let folks know that I'm notgiving you enough time to get
into all those, but I at leastwanted to answer that one
question.
Speaker 4 (46:19):
I'm just saying that.
That's our current law Correct.
That's what I wanted to get to.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
That's what I wanted to get to Thank you.
So we have somebody on the line, my brother.
I so appreciate yourfaithfulness If you could just
keep it really brief today.
Thank you for calling.
I believe this is Dural waterrepresented yes, it is yes, my
brother, go for it short andsweet please okay, short and
sweet.
Speaker 6 (46:40):
You guys know the election, when uh trump was
running, he got invited to abunch of not bunch a couple of
churches laid hands upon him.
They prayed for him, and what Ishare is trusting the Lord.
And then we do pray and guesswhat?
You didn't come out aspresident.
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Don't lose the focus on Jesus.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
Thank you.
Speaker 6 (47:08):
Why I share that?
Because it's all about Jesus.
It's not about Trump, aboutBiden, it's about Jesus.
Jesus knows what he's doing andhe didn't want me to become
president for a reason you knowwhat He'll give glory to God
doing and he didn't want tobecome president for a reason.
You know what he'll give gloryto God.
Oh, but he didn't have a prayer.
Yes, he did answer the prayer.
He said no, and when?
Jesus says no what do you do?
The obedience?
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A thank you, jesus.
You made that goal for a reasonand I'm not gonna go back there
to open thank you.
Speaker 2 (47:34):
Thank you, my brother .
Thank you so much.
God bless you, thank you.
You know my my biggest takeawayfrom his encouragement.
It really goes back to what Iwas saying you know, don't,
don't give up hope.
You know, if you're discouragedor disappointed with the
results or with something likethat, what a good encouragement.
I would like to hear about anupcoming exercise opportunity.
Speaker 3 (47:53):
No, that's not what it is it's so much more than
that, please tell us about theWalk for Life.
Okay, so we're really excitedabout the Walk for Life.
We hosted the first one.
Speaker 2 (48:05):
It was amazing.
Last.
Speaker 4 (48:07):
October.
It was so much fun and we hadover 250 people show up
Everybody was having a lot offun celebrating life, so this
year we're having another one.
Speaker 3 (48:16):
Okay, last year we told everybody there hadn't been
a walk in in miami for 15 years, for life.
But why was the walk soimportant last year?
Because we're celebrating lifeand we we held it in the evening
and it was just beautifulbecause we walked as light
bearers for our Lord and Savior,Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
It was so cool seeing the whole group of glow sticks
just going through the park.
It was amazing.
Speaker 3 (48:42):
So John 8, 12 says when Jesus spoke again to the
people, he said I am the lightof the world.
Whoever follows me will neverwalk in darkness but will have
the light of life.
And there's so many scriptureson the light, and particularly
us being lightbearers.
And so, as we talk aboutAmendment 4, we're the light in
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the world, we're the light inthis community, and we're going
to be walking October the 12thfor life as lightbearers, and
we're inviting all of thechurches in this county to walk
with us, united as one, as lightbearers.
For life means so much more tome and to all of us that we've
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been working on this event.
Uh, because of amendment four.
Yes, you know.
So it's um, but what elsewendy's on the committee?
So, wendy, you want to say afew things about what we've been
doing?
Speaker 4 (49:41):
yeah, well, we want to make it bigger this year.
Speaker 2 (49:43):
Yeah, you know my prayer is that eventually we're
gonna have to close down ahighway or something I'm serious
.
I mean, there's what millionsof people in this county, yes,
it is probably over a millionchristians.
I don't know, I'm just throwingnumbers out, but enough enough
to have to shut down the street.
Thousands for sure.
Speaker 4 (49:58):
But I'm sorry I interrupted, wendy, please no,
there, this is a very tangibleway yes of standing up for life.
Maybe you're not a lobbyist,maybe you're not in the
political arena, maybe none ofthat, but we still can stand up
for life, and this is also a wayto teach children on on the
value of life, because it is afamily event.
Everybody comes out.
Speaker 2 (50:18):
Oh, my kids had tons of fun.
They love the free food at theend well, not free because we
registered, but they loved it.
Speaker 4 (50:25):
We didn't charge you for the food, it was included it
was included, so yes, it wasjust an atmosphere of really
people of light are people ofvictory.
People of victory are people ofjoy, and so when we gather in
those kind of numbers and thisyear we have a goal of maybe 400
people, 400, 500 people aswe're getting there, and it was
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just such an essential part ofthe ministry to Eve's Hope, as
you know, is the boots on theground pregnancy center.
We're meeting her where she is,we're providing her with medical
information, medical services.
In the abortion process there'sso much information lacking and
she goes from a panic towardsan abortion pill without even
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thinking of the consequences.
And so at Eve's Hope, on ourmobile clinic, she's able to
pause for a moment to thinkabout the information that we're
presenting to her, to let herknow that there are other
options other than abortion.
And we have women who, afterhearing and seeing and getting
that free ultrasound Linda, whathappens?
Oh, they fall in love with thatbaby.
Speaker 2 (51:32):
They see their baby.
Speaker 4 (51:34):
That orphan baby in the womb now is a baby that is
loved, and we continue to bewith her, because it's not just
about the baby, it's about heras well and, as you know, pastor
Joey, at Eve's Hope she gets tohear the gospel every time she
comes.
Last year we had 119 clientsthat accepted Jesus as their
Lord and Savior, 16 born-againbelievers who wanted to
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rededicate their lives now theseare ladies that, even though
they were professed believers,they were seeking out
information on abortion yes, andinstead they rededicated their
life to thelord, yes, and so all of this is
happening, and so october 12this the day of celebration for us
to gather to see, to celebratewhat the Lord is doing at Eve's
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Hope.
It is a fundraiser for us, soevery participant that walks
gets to register on our website,pay $35.
But what do you get for that$35?
You get a bag, a T-shirt, food,glow sticks and a lot of fun,
and a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (52:35):
I so appreciate your humility when talking about the
money, part of it.
But, guys, I'm going to, I'mgoing to go out and say it for
them Thirty five dollars, justdon't go to McDonald's once and
support Eve's Hope and said Imean seriously, I mean with with
price and everything.
It's like that's that's save alittle bit of money and and come
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and walk and and support eve'shope and and again, guys, the
lord will lead you.
Guys, if, if you're paycheck topaycheck and and you're in a
tough season of life, prayer,prayer, prayer, prayer, uh, but
many of you listening it will bea good use of your finances and
you know we've already um, ourgoal this year is a hundred
thousand.
Speaker 4 (53:16):
Last year we raised 51 000, which was 10 000 more
than our goal, and we're sothankful to the lord for that
praise, praise the lord thisyear our goal is one hundred
thousand and, if I can just givea shout out, we already have
some sponsors yeah from lastyear that came back.
We have us century bank,kirtland financial management,
waters, mechanical card Sciencethey were all sponsors last year
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and they're sponsors again thisyear.
And we also have some that justcame on board Kai's Real Estate
Company, the State Farm.
We have Miami Design Center 40Days for Life.
Speaker 2 (53:48):
Shout out to all you businesses supporting yes.
Speaker 4 (53:52):
All of them are sponsors as well, and so we're
just we're off to a great start,so go on, register to
participate and join us so thatyou can be part of this year's
walk eveshopeinfo yeseveshopeinfo.
Speaker 2 (54:04):
We're going to make sure to get that uh on our sites
as well, eveshopeinfo.
Um, we have just a coupleminutes left.
Any more information?
Speaker 3 (54:14):
or yes, I would encourage the.
The goal is to have as manychurches participate as possible
to extend the reach out this issomething different you're
trying to do, like groups thisyear.
Speaker 2 (54:27):
Okay, yes, so go ahead.
Speaker 3 (54:29):
So so what are we doing?
We're saying, okay, if somepeople are telling me, oh, but
our church is so small, it it'slike, well, come as a church,
you know.
Or my church is so big, youknow.
Well, come with your smallgroup.
So come with the people thatyou know from your church and
gather together.
So I saw, I know Wendy, wendycame with her church people.
Speaker 1 (54:50):
Oh my gosh, I knew who New Beginnings was.
Speaker 3 (54:52):
She had a lot of people from her church and then
some of the folks from otherchurches came in their small
groups with their small groups.
Or you can come as a family.
Your family came, beautifulfamily, and I remember your—.
Your picture's on the website.
Speaker 4 (55:08):
Oh cool, You're pulling the plug.
We walked in the kids' road.
They rode the wagon.
Speaker 2 (55:13):
That's right, rode the wagon and ate candy
Suffering the wagon.
Speaker 3 (55:21):
That's right, rode the wagon and ate candy,
suffering so so, um so.
So come register.
If you own, own a business andwould like to participate,
definitely let us know.
We would love to have yousponsor.
Speaker 4 (55:28):
Yes we put your logo on our shirt, on on yard signs.
Speaker 2 (55:31):
I actually just got a question from a listener, but
also they're a friend.
Um, they said is there like ainfographic on social media that
people could pass around andrepost, or not?
Speaker 4 (55:41):
yet it is on our social media, but, um, if you
can go to the website and thenfrom there, we'll be sure to
direct you to wherever.
Speaker 2 (55:49):
I don't have the address for our social media
right search up eve's hope onsocial social media and go on
the website as well.
We'll reconnect and we'll poststuff on our stuff as well.
Speaker 4 (56:01):
Okay, thank you.
Speaker 2 (56:02):
So eveshopeinfo is the main website and through
there you can find information.
If you find Eve's Hope onsocial media as well, there's
going to be information therefor the walk.
But this is a good suggestion.
This is a good suggestion thatI know you ladies are going to
take to heart, and oh,definitely, and lindsay and I
don't have social media andthat's why it doesn't naturally
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flow, but we do need to wait.
You want to know somethingfunny.
Speaker 3 (56:27):
Neither do I but uh, but.
Speaker 2 (56:30):
But the radio has one and and we try to get
information out through there,okay, so if you can, post it on
your site, then they can findthe information.
Speaker 3 (56:38):
We'll be sure that they get what they need to get.
Now we have cards that weproduce for the various churches
, who individuals are churchambassadors for us, and we have
a code, the.
Qr code and it takes youdirectly to that, to that um, to
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that website, and you canparticipate thank you so much
for your time.
Speaker 2 (57:04):
I can't believe it.
Speaker 4 (57:05):
We have seconds left but, I think I told you so much
more to talk about it was timewell spent.
Speaker 2 (57:11):
Uh, ladies and gentlemen, listening, I mean,
we've just talked about suchimportant things.
If, if I could ask you for twothings if you can fit them into
your weekend, go to eveshopeinfo, register for the walk,
participate, engage with Eve'sHope some way online and make
sure you're registered to voteand vote no on Amendment 4.
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story and even sharing with theladies in the studio, you know
we've made connections with somany different ministries and
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could we talk about this moreon the radio?
I'd like to do more through theradio, and so they've so far
given the green light and thenewest iteration of that is
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Foster Fridays, which, again,for those of you listening, it's
just Fridays, ending the week,looking at foster care, adoption
, pro-life pregnancy centers,issues that we're going to be
voting on, just as all of thesethings related to child welfare,
the well-being of our kids, thesafety of our kids, and again,
I'm sure we're going to get intohow so much of this is so
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connected.
These issues are so connectedand so related.
So it's funny because I've beensaying you know, foster, friday
, the first 15 minutes, thefirst 20 minutes, it's going to
be over the phone and it's likeboom, it's just exploded to in
person the full hour we're goingto talk about these issues.
So I'm so excited.
So, thank you, everybody that'stuned in.
But one of the most importantthings we wanted to talk about
(01:57):
today was this Amendment 4.
That's on the ballot in Florida.
So, ladies, I know this issomething that you guys have
been looking at Tell us about it, tell us what's going on,
please.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Well, I'm going to let Wendy take the lead.
I know she recently was at aseminar, workshop, an event with
Linda Bell and heard firsthandfrom Linda all about what's
going on right now.
We've been talking about thisissue for how long now?
Months now, yeah, months, andhere we're at the point where
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people need to really hear aboutit, but especially God's people
, followers of Jesus Christ, andso we're talking to his people,
we're talking to y'all, becauseyou need to know the truth, and
so I'm going to let Wendy kindof take that first stab at it.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Go at it, yeah, you know, pastor Joey, as you were
mentioning the things thatFridays are standing for and the
things that you're advocatingfor, and it just just makes, it
just reminds me that all ofthose issues have one thing in
common that we do it becausewe're it's an extension of who
we are as followers of jesuschrist, not because we're good
people and not because it's anindividual cause that's close to
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our hearts.
All of it stems from the factthat in god's word there's that
he says that there's value tolife, from birth to the, from
the womb to the grave.
Right, linda and so the womb tothe tomb
Speaker 2 (03:27):
sometimes they say yes.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
And so everything related to what you said about
foster care, about adoption,pro-life.
So at the Pregnancy Centerwe're pro-life, not because we
affiliate with any party, butbecause the word of God says
that we're image bearers of him,and so that's why we're
pro-life, and so this is not apolitical issue, this is a faith
issue, and if you are afollower of Jesus Christ, then
you're definitely pro-life,because it is an extension of
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who you are in your heart.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Again, I love it.
I mean, I have no means tointerrupt, but again just
because of the word you know.
And again, this is a toughthing and it's I'm really.
It's on the same subject, youknow.
I hope I'm not leaving thesubject, but it's tough because,
oh, politics and this and thatand all you have to walk on
eggshells, but this is not apolitics thing.
(04:18):
You know this Amendment 4 thingis not a politics thing.
So again, continue just beingpro-life and and getting into
what amendment four is so to thetheme of we are being light in
this dark world and this is whatamendment four is.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Amendment four is a very vaguely worded amendment.
I know that you've had otherguests on here, pastor joey, who
have talked about amendmentfour, so and I want to repeat
too much of what being said, butit is so important to
understand how we got here.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
I gotta interject because I would like you to to
really get into it what it says,what it's about, and I know
you're going to get to it it'svery deceptively written from
the beginning.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
You know, and it's and I want to again and and this
is not to get on us, all of usbut I want to repeat a little
bit of how we got here, becauseit is important to understand
that we cannot stay silent andwe can't be complacent about
what's to come in the electionsin November.
You know, roe versus Wade wasoverturned and we were all
celebrating that and it was agood thing to celebrate.
(05:17):
But you know what thepro-abortion side was doing.
They were already readyingthemselves for war and for
battle, and when they said we'regoing to take it to the states,
they took it to the states.
Look what has happened since Roeversus Wade was overturned how
many states, including Ohio,which Linda will talk about in a
little bit were able to place apro-abortion, abortion on
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demand amendment into theirconstitution.
You know, and then you haveGod's people standing around
going.
How did this happen?
We live in the state of Florida, we have a pro-life governor,
pro-life both chambers, theSenate and the representatives.
How did it come to this point,to where we're about to vote on
whether abortion on demand canbe in our constitution or not?
(05:59):
And so what the other side did,what the pro-abortion side did
last year.
They were gathering signaturesand can I tell you something,
there were a lot of conservativeChristians who signed that
petition because there werestudents, because is that like
public record kind of thing, orit's just from asking around?
No, no, what the other side,what the pro-abortion side did
is they hired people from out ofstate in their 20s they came
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into our state, they were payingthem $20, $25 an hour and they
were standing outside of Publix,Walmart, every gathering places
, and they were telling us andwe know from experience that
they were lying about what theywere signing.
They were saying sign thispetition because right now women
are dying.
You can't have an abortion inthe state of Florida and,
unfortunately, a lot of peopleare not informed about what the
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law is.
And so here were, people weresigning it and and I know that
the pro-life side was saying, oh, they're not going to get
enough signatures Well, guesswhat they did?
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
And so now this goes before the Florida State Supreme
Court and we were saying well,this court interprets the law
correctly.
There is no way that they'regoing to allow this.
Language is deceptive.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
It is vague.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
The justices are not going to allow this to go
forward because of how theyvoted, how they've interpreted
law in the past.
And guess what?
Four against three, the fourmen said it is vague, it is
deceptive.
But let the voters decide.
And the three women dissentedbecause they said we have the
power and it is our right rightnow to say that this is
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deceptive and this is vague andit cannot go forward to the
voters.
So that's how we're here In apro-life state with pro-life
legislation, pro-life leaders,now with an amendment that's
going to restrict any future law.
If this passes with 60% or moreof the voters, it doesn't
matter what law tries to passhere in the state of Florida,
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because abortion is going to beprotected in our Constitution.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Wow, wow, wow, wow.
That's what's at stake.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Yes, and while all of that was going on, what were we
doing as Christians?
We were all dumbfounded, but weshouldn't have been.
We should have been followingwhat happened in Ohio and, yeah,
there was chatter andconversation about oh, but here
we were dumbfounded.
And then where are we today?
Are you seeing any ads?
(08:14):
Are you hearing any ads about?
Now we're at.
Okay, this has got to be agrassroots thing, but is that
enough?
Speaker 4 (08:24):
So now we're at the 11th hour, because we know from
what happened in Ohio that anynew campaign that came after
Labor Day was already too late.
But it's good, at least we'rehere, we're talking about it.
I know there's a lot ofinformation that has been shared
.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Now there's some things that I don't want to
interrupt, but there's somethings that I'm picking up on.
Now.
There's some things I don'twant to interrupt, but there's
some things that that I'mpicking up on.
Number one, which I knew this.
I heard the language, but tillthis moment, I just realized
what it meant A constitutionalamendment, and you'd said the
implications.
This now supersedes, in a sense, any other future laws.
(09:01):
Now again, you know, here'swhat's interesting, and maybe
this is relevant To me.
It didn't matter.
And again here, you guys, youladies, are probably going to
look like well, how could younot?
It didn't matter, because I'mgoing to vote.
No, you know, I'm going to goand I'm going to vote.
But what is on the line, howhigh the stakes are, I didn't
realize.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
The fact that it's a constitutional amendment of the
state constitution.
So abortion is going to beprotected in our constitution.
And if you, if I can just readthe first part of the amendment.
It says no law shall prohibit,penalize, delay or restrict
abortion.
Okay, that's just the firstpart of it.
More words to it no law.
This is in our constitution, wow.
So if this passes, it doesn'tmatter that the majority of the
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legislators are pro-life andthat they've been protecting
life with legislation that hasbeen introduced.
All the work that has been doneover the past number of years
for nothing.
Yeah, because now abortion isgoing to be allowed up to birth,
and I know I've spoken to somepeople who say, oh, that can't
be up to birth.
Read it in the language yeahthey use terms like viability,
which, joey.
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No one can define whatviability means.
What is viability?
Is it 20 weeks of pregnancy?
Is it birth?
Is it and um?
I sat in on a meeting wheregovernor desantis was speaking
and he did say if this passes,this is going to make us the
mecca for the world in regardsto abortion not just in the
united states, but in the world,and you know what the
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pro-abortion side is seeing.
This is the test, because ifthey can do it in the state of
florida, they can do it anywhere.
We are a pro-life state and ifthey can pass an amendment like
this into our constitution, thatmeans that they can do it
anywhere yeah, if you just tunedin, we're talking with linda
and wendy from eve's wholepregnancy center and we're
talking, uh, a lot about.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
I know we're going to talk a lot about, uh, or about
a lot of different things, butwe're going to spend the
majority of our time talkingabout amendment four.
That's pretty much the titleamendment four in florida yes,
okay amendment four here inflorida, the the uh fact that as
a christian, you need to voteno, and and god's radio, we will
stand by that statementunequivocally, and we were
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speaking about it before we wenton the air and I'm sure we'll
speak about it again as pastors.
Uh, I know at our calvarychapel, miami, our pastor has
been saying it very clearly andI pray that more pastors,
leaders and churches would saythe same.
And, uh, all that to say.
So we're talking aboutamendment four.
Um, we're talking about thestakes that are on the line.
(11:36):
I mean the incredible.
Um, I mean that's the way yousay it, right, what's on the
line?
And, uh, if you're catching up,if you have a specific question
while we're speaking, I'm happyto field those questions.
Again, I'm going to take careof my guests here.
Uh, you know we've never hadanybody belligerent or or
anything like that on the radio,but just know that I'm gonna,
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you know, be a good host.
You can ask any question thatyou would like and you could
text.
We'll field the questions andanswer them as best we can.
The phone number to the studiois 786-313-3115.
So you read the first line.
We're talking about how.
Again, how incredible, howincredible is the word that this
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has even gotten this far andyou are going to continue from
there.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Well, one other thing I wanted to say.
As you were talking aboutsomebody calling in and
potentially having somethingnegative to say, I just want to
share with you that we have adifferent viewpoint on abortion,
because we are a pregnancycenter and so we're kind of like
at the ground level.
We see the risk and the effectsand the aftermath of what
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abortion is, and so we're notspeaking from a political
standpoint, we're not speakingfrom just being against abortion
for the sake of being againstabortion.
We know that God's word saysthat he protects life even in
the womb.
But we can both to the harmfuleffects of what abortion is.
It is not a pro-woman issue.
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Can I tell you something?
This is a very harmful thingfor women and a lot of our
volunteers have testimoniesabout having experienced it and
the regret and the aftermath andeverything that comes
afterwards.
This is not.
This is how god presents hislife and death and there's so
many deathful parts of, if I cansay it that way, to the
aftermath of an abortionspiritually, mentally,
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emotionally, all the damage thatis not tracked, you know, even
medically some of the physicalafter effects of it, and so for
us, it's on a personal level.
That way, we know that God loveslife and he loves women, and we
see what this is doing forwomen.
And so that's why it's such apersonal and very heartfelt
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thing and to ask people toplease vote no on Amendment 4.
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Well, I'll share a quick story with you because a
lot of people know the type ofwork that I do and the ministry
that I'm involved with.
A lot of them will share theirstory with me.
And I recently heard a story ofa woman who, not too long ago,
sought abortion and she took thechemical pills.
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She ended up hemorrhaging andhaving to go to the emergency
room.
And these stories you don'thear about, but this one I heard
about it and the woman ended uphaving to have a hysterectomy
and removal of one of herovaries okay, from a chemical
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abortion, and we think we don't—which they probably call the
quote-unquote safe one.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Is that probably how they refer to it?
Yes, yes, wow.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Yes, it's as easy—the women are being told it's as
easy as taking an aspirin, butthey're not being told it's a
regimen of pills that they takeand it's a process, and so
unfortunately, it's actually aflat out lie.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
It's not as easy as taking an aspirin.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Right, right, yes, and there are.
So we hear these stories, weknow firsthand.
We have a nurse chat line,we've heard from women who are
taking the pills and and some ofthe things that happen to them.
So we know, yeah, we know.
Our eyes are open.
God has allowed us to see andhave open eyes.
So when we look at this and andwe know the harm that abortion
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causes as wendy said, yeah,physical, physical, emotional,
spiritual, mental, I'm surewe'll circle back around, but
but I want to make sure thatpeople have very specific and
practical information.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
For example, and and I'm just being fully transparent
here, I hope you know there'sthere's grace, uh, for it truly.
I know there was an opportunityto vote just recently.
I asked specifically someone.
I said is the amendment fourissue gonna still be there for
me to vote no later in thenovember?
Speaker 4 (16:05):
it's only a primary election.
It was not.
I mean sorry, I'm gonna correctmyself yeah, yeah general
election in november.
It was not on the primaryballot so it was not at all.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
It was not okay.
No, that's a general election,okay, okay right, uh, I made
sure I said hey, if this is myonly chance, I'm, I'm bye kids,
I'm figuring out, I gotta govote so.
So I was told that it's gonnabe there november no, it's gonna
be the general election, sospecifically, and it might just
be as simple as you know go votein november.
If that's it, that's it.
But what do we need to do incase somebody's they're they're
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tuning out, they're going to getout of their car.
What do they need to dostarting today?
Speaker 4 (16:40):
OK, well, first of all we know from statistics that
in churches look the populationof the churches in the state of
Florida.
If everybody got out to voteand voted no on this, easily
defeated.
Speaker 6 (16:51):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
Easily defeated because of the number of
churches that we have, biblebelieving Jesus following
churches, but we know that umstatistically most churches,
only 50 of the people areregistered to vote and out of
those 50 that are registered tovote, only 25 show up to vote
that is a low.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
So what is the?
Speaker 4 (17:09):
step number one is registered to vote, and I know
that that may seem like a reallyhard thing to do, but I'm going
to guide you to a website youcan either go to the florida
department Elections or easierto remember website.
This is where I'm gonna getsome of the information that I'm
gonna share today is called dono harm Florida org.
Okay, and this is a pack that isset up specifically for
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amendment for but, there is aregister to vote button on there
and you can hit that and youcan register to vote.
You have until October 2nd, Ibelieve, to be able to be
eligible to register to votebutton on there and you can hit
that and you can register tovote.
You have until October 2nd, Ibelieve to be able to be
eligible to vote in the Novemberelection DoNoHarmFloridaorg.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
DoNoHarmFloridaorg.
I want to make sure to get someof the paperwork and flyers, if
you have extra, so maybe we canput it up on some of our sites
and stuff as well.
So register it up on some ofour sites and stuff as well, um,
so register by I mean registerright this weekend, register now
, but uh, but, but definitelywithin the month, you know,
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october 2nd, cut off, and thenget out there and vote in
november.
That's what I need to, I wouldimagine, and and share this and
tell people share oh, yes,absolutely tell people.
We need to vote.
No, talk to people, right.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Exactly when we first heard about this, I told Wendy
this is going to be a grassrootskind of thing.
We don't want it to be.
We want PACs to be out thereand we want advertising and all
of that, but we need to share itwith everybody we know.
So when I see somebody that Iknow, I say, oh, have you heard
about Amendment 4?
And I let them know vote no.
And why Can I ask you?
Speaker 2 (18:40):
something I want to get very personal here for a
moment.
Either of you.
Have you gotten any pushback?
I mean, you're passionate.
This is important.
You're spending, I'm sure, muchof your time and energy sharing
this with people.
Have you gotten any pushback?
Or well, you know, stop tellingme, or any, because I got it.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
I'll share with you because I got it.
I'm thinking of the listener,that maybe they're timid.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
You know they're shy or they're scared, or what are
people going to say?
Speaker 3 (19:03):
I'll share this with you because the first time I did
that with the person that I saw, I was at a restaurant and I
looked at her.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
This was a stranger.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
And she said I think I know you.
And I say I think I know youtoo.
So I said, oh, go for it, girl.
And I shared with her because II knew, I knew her in my
christian circles.
Okay, so I believe she was afollower of jesus christ and and
I shared with her about thelord and and you know, you know
I've been reading and studyingthat we're image bearers, I'm
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creating the image and you know,there's this amendment, number
four, and this is what it wantsto, to, to to enshrine abortion.
But God doesn't want that.
God has gifted us individuallyto be his image bearers and we
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have a responsibility, and sothat's kind of how I went about
it with her and she kind oflooked at me in the very
beginning.
But because I'm talking aboutGod's word and his scripture and
sharing with her about, youknow, god creating Adam and Eve
and what did God instruct themto do?
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He told them to procreate,populate.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
And she took it well she took it well.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
She didn't tell me oh no or walk away.
She listened, I said okay, ohno.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Amendment four and I love that because you went from
the word, from the Lord, youknow, very heartfelt, I got to
imagine that when this issomething that's in your heart,
when you're praying, when you'reseeking it's, it's, there's
that God element.
You know, you're not just therewith a sign.
You know and and and again, notthat that's bad.
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I mean, look, and maybe this isgoing off in left field here
and maybe you actually say, no,joey, we don't do that anymore.
Know, but but man, to even justpray, you know, pray outside of
a planned parenthood or acrossthe street or wherever is
appropriate, or man, you knowpeople.
I know that there's beensituations where those folks
have gotten flack or or or pushback or whatever, not that to
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not do that.
But I imagine that also it justcomes out in conversation, you
know, just in loving person toperson conversation.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
I think it's just like sharing the gospel you know
it's led by the Holy Spirit andyou just can't be afraid that.
And I think that that fearfactors the reason why the
church and as a whole I mean I'mincluding myself too that maybe
we've been afraid to speak upand we are to speak up and we
are to speak up when things likethis are happening and that's
why we're vocal about it.
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And I think, like you said, ifit's from a genuine place and
you speak with integrity, thatpeople are going to receive it.
And I haven't had an experiencewhere anybody has outrightly
challenged me on anything.
I I think I'm well informed.
We we make sure that we do ourhomework, and so, from that
standpoint, we're equipped andwe're ready and I wonder I'm
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connecting some dots here and Iwonder if it's that simple.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
I wonder if most people, if they really
understood what this was about,would not support it, and it's
just the deception that isgetting people going.
Well, let's talk about it thenI was just going to say hey, I
was going to say we're on numberthree.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
I was about to go to number three.
But before you go to number,three I just want to tell you
that when it says no law shallprohibit, penalize, delay or
restrict abortion, can I tellyou something?
We've seen it in New York,we've seen it in New York, we've
seen it in California.
Where it says delay abortion,they use that word to go after
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pregnancy centers, because thevery fact that we are presenting
her.
Before you make your finaldecision, please consider
options.
Here are some options.
Let us educate you that wewould then be delaying the
access to abortion.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Now I'm mad.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
And so now we're seeing it and we're not making
this up, we've seen how they goafter the pregnancy centers in
New York.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
You're saying we've seen this in other states
already, in New York and in.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
California.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
It's happening.
Speaker 5 (23:07):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
Okay, so that's a plug into how it would affect
pregnancy centers.
Before viability we alreadytalked about it.
It's very hard to define whatviability is.
Even the other side doesn'thave any experts that can tell
you.
This is exactly what viabilityis right.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Yes, it is not defined.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
It does not include painful late-term abortions
through birth.
It will include, excuse me,painful late-term abortions
through birth.
Okay, the next part.
It says or when necessary toprotect the patient's health.
Well, what is that related to?
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Yeah, that's super vague.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
Yeah, like what does it relate to your physical
health, your mental health, youremotional health?
Speaker 2 (23:49):
What part of your body's health is it talking
about?
Well, I like how it says here.
They can even stretch it to saywell, financial health yes.
That's, that's tough.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
Okay, so that's why it's vague?
Speaker 4 (23:59):
Yeah, it's determined by the health care provider.
Well, who is in the state ofFlorida health care provider?
Well, that's vague as well,because it could be a podiatrist
, it could be the nursepractitioner, it could even be
the receptionist I've heardLinda Bell say this, the
president of Florida Right toLife.
It could even be thereceptionist at an abortion
clinic.
Wow, in the Florida Right toLife, it could even be the
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receptionist at an abortionclinic.
So who is the health careprovider that's going to be
saying?
Speaker 5 (24:24):
that you have a health issue.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Okay, this amendment does not change the legislative
constitutional authority torequire notification to a parent
or guardian before a minor hasan abortion.
And you're looking at that andyou're saying, well, that sounds
good.
Well, what is notification Me?
Sending you an email Me sendingyou something in the mail
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afterwards like where?
Speaker 2 (24:46):
where is the notification defined?
Speaker 4 (24:47):
and so it doesn't say before and so just in contrast,
if people are not aware of howconstitutional amendments are
presented, usually the languagehas a summary like this, but
then there'll be like threepages afterwards defining what
each term means there is aconcept.
There's another constitutionalamendment that we're going to
vote on as well.
That amendment has three pages,has the summary version, just
like this does, and then pagesdefining.
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This means this this means thatthis abortion amendment, this is
it, this summary is thelanguage wow undefined terms,
nowhere else to be defined andthis is why the florida supreme
court should have struck it downand should not have been
allowed to go on the ballot,because they've done that in the
past.
In the past they've said thatvague, deceptive to protect the,
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the people of the state offlorida.
We're not going to allow thison the ballot unless it is
further defined yeah, I meanjust just the more you look at
it.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
It's just the deception.
The evil is so clear, so clear.
And, man, man, if you justtuned in, we're talking with
Linda and Wendy from Eve's HopePregnancy Center.
What's the website?
Speaker 4 (25:54):
The website that.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
For Eve's Hope.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
For Eve's Hope.
It's eveshopeinfo.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Eveshope's hope is eve's hopeinfo, eve's hopeinfo,
eve's hopeinfo online, and, uh,they do a ton of stuff.
They're amazing.
Uh, one of those is is goinggrassroots to to talk about
amendment four and the need tovote no and how much is on the
line.
But I did want to talk aboutsome other things as well and,
like I mentioned, we'll probablycircle back around to this
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because just the timeliness andthe importance of Amendment 4.
You may have some otherinformation there.
Yeah, it looks like you havesomething you want to say, linda
.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Yes, so I have a.
Actually it's called VitalSigns and it was produced by the
Center for Christian Virtue andit's like a white paper report
on what happened in Ohio, in thestate of Ohio.
So I have some things in herethat I kind of want to highlight
for everybody to hear.
So in the state of Florida, yes, and before you go there.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Why the comparison of Florida and Ohio?
What's the connection there?
Speaker 3 (26:54):
The connection is Ohioans didn't think this
amendment was going to pass okayand so they weren't prepared,
and we know what happened inohio and florida.
What did we say earlier, whenwe started out?
Speaker 5 (27:11):
we were dumbfounded.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Yeah, oh we.
We didn't believe that that theuh justices would vote the way
they did, and here we are wellthat the petition would get vote
the way they did.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
And here we are.
Well that the petition wouldget as many signatures as it did
so in Ohio.
This is a constitutionalamendment to their state
constitution.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Okay, the same requiring— Going down the same
road, basically.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
Supermajority to amend their constitution.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
So you were saying Ms Linda.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Okay, so I pulled out the Florida numbers for last
year.
Florida had— in the state ofFlorida we had 84,052 abortions
in the state of Florida, inMiami Florida, or let's just say
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, in Dade County.
In 2022, they had 18,488 intheir state.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
So our county numbers match the entire state of
Ohio's numbers.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Yes.
So can you see what's at stake,when we can potentially become
that magnet for all the otherlocal states for the women to
come and have their abortionshere in the state of Florida, a
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state we would become thedestination state in the South
but in the world.
So I wanted to mention thatnumber and there are some other
things here.
30% of Ohioans who believe lifebegins at conception still
voted to pass PlannedParenthood's extreme abortion
amendment.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Is there any explanation for that?
Is there any thoughts on onthat number?
Why?
Speaker 3 (28:59):
absolutely, because what they did is they polled the
people after, um, uh, afterthey voted.
So they had people polling them, and here's what they found
half of the self-identifyingevangelicals and catholics voted
yes to enshrine abortion in theOhio Constitution.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
Because of the wording.
Now, if we didn't break thisamendment down, this amendment
summary, if you just took it forface value, why were some
conservative evangelicalssigning the petition that
Planned Parenthood wascirculating?
One, because they didn't fullyunderstand it.
Two, because just on face value, if you're reading it quickly,
it sounds good, it doesn't soundas harmful.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Once you break it down and once you realize the
vagueness, you could interpretit as, if you don't read it
carefully, you can interpret itas oh, in an emergency, when you
really, really have to.
Of course, we would want tohelp and allow this right, but
that's not what it's saying atall exactly.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
So what happened?
The church got involved toolate, and that was one of the
things that comes out.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
This is now back to ohio, ohio yes.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
So the vital signs they say here.
The church got involved too,too late, and they found that
87% of the people who learnedinformation from their pastor
about the amendment voted no.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
What was the number?
Speaker 2 (30:31):
87%, let's pause right there and in case the
whole thing goes offline.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
What that means is pastors need to be telling your
people 87% of people who heardthe message of this
constitutional amendment and tovote no from the pulpit then
voted correctly.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
We have somebody on the line.
I wanted to take this phonecall.
That's why I kind of jumped inthere.
Good afternoon, you're live onGod's Way Radio.
Where are you calling us fromtoday?
Speaker 5 (31:00):
Good afternoon, Joey.
I'm calling from the beautifulcity of West Miami.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
The beautiful city of West Miami.
Speaker 5 (31:04):
What do you want to share?
Speaker 2 (31:05):
or ask our guests.
Speaker 5 (31:07):
No, you know, I love very much a lot of what they're
sharing, because some of thisyou don't get in the mainstream
media and just hearing themshare about how vague this whole
thing is set up, I mean itreminds me so much of and I
don't want to push any buttons,but you know, I know, you know,
back when the pandemic came,there was this whole thing about
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giving the government emergencypower in the middle of a health
crisis and all that, and Icouldn't help but think the same
thing.
Then, you know, similar to whatthey're saying now, how you
know this.
I don't know if to call itgovernment overreach, but this
idea, like just listening tothem talk about what do you
define as health?
Because you could very easilysay, hey, public health and
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safety is mental and if you sayanything against homosexuality,
you're affecting the mentalhealth of people and just seeing
the world go that direction.
I mean, for me it's justnothing more than a blessing to
hear these two ladies just standup for life and really stand
there in the gap for those thatevery time I say this I get, for
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those that don't have a voice.
So I applaud the both of you andI thank you so much for what
you do, because people need tohear this.
People need to hear how vaguethey're being, and it's on
purpose.
It is on purpose.
There is an agenda.
We don't war against flesh andblood.
There is something very muchbehind all of this and, as
believers, we need to stand upand be vocal, as vocal as these
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ladies.
We need to be as educated asyou guys.
It should not just be you, weshould all be experts in this
arena.
So I applaud you both and thankyou so much for the work that
you guys do.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
Thank you so much.
Thank you for thatencouragement and you're
absolutely right.
We just read a statistic abouthow effective the pastors can be
in doing this.
But it is all of our duties tobe speaking about truth.
And, yes, you're absolutelyright.
The underlying theme of thiswhole process of dis-amendment,
from its beginning and where weare, has been deception.
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And that is definitely theenemy's weapon is deception.
Speaker 5 (33:11):
Yeah, and you know, I have to say I love that you
guys mentioned that whole thingabout pastors and if any pastors
are listening and, joey, yougot to turn you tell me, turn
you, tell me, hey, stop.
But we know we a lot of timespeople get afraid oh, I don't
want to mix.
Uh, you know politics in thepulpit and we are not mixing
politics in the pulpit whenyou're talking about the defense
of life and and people reallyneed to, we really need to stand
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up for and I love that about.
At least our pastor is veryvocal from the pulpit about the
importance of supporting life.
Yeah, obviously not makingpolitical picks, but you know
hey you need to support life.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
This is not political , that's right.
This is definitely up theiralley and standing up against
something that very perverselystands against the truth of who
God?
Speaker 5 (33:51):
is, and I think that you make it and I'm sorry, you
make an amazing point.
People paint this as apolitical issue, but it's not.
Speaker 6 (33:56):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (33:59):
I think that's it.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
That's another part of the deception, but anyway, I
could keep going, thank you hey,maybe you'll be on the radio
soon, uh sharing and uh, youcould bring it up in your time
as well and it'll get brought upmore and more thank you.
Thank you, god bless you guys,thank you that brother's such a
blessing he he actually justkind of started guest hosting,
uh.
So he comes co-hosts with oneof well, you guys have met
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Pastor Raz, the founding pastor,so he's got a heart for radio.
He just started serving andit's a blessing, so I'm going to
hold him to it.
I'm going to say, hey, did youtalk about Amendment 4?
But Can I give you anotherstatistic, joey, if I can just
add to the Florida pastors.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
So in this Zoom meeting with Governor DeSantis,
his coalition shared that 30% ofthe pastors that they were
talking to here in the state ofFlorida did not want to touch
this.
Say again, say again the number30% of the pastors that they
were speaking to said that theydid not want to touch this in
the state of Florida.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Was there any explanation?
Yes, COVID has just happened,they're just now getting their
people back, and they don't wantto upset anyone they don't want
to.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
You can't see what I'm doing and so and it is not
to be derogatory to pastors inany way.
We just, we just need I'msaying that statistics show that
we need the pastors to stand up.
We need our pastors to be thespiritual leaders that god has
called them and we as a peopleneed to support when our pastors
like your pastor is out thereand he's, and he is standing up
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for the, the truth of god's word.
We need to then come alongsidethem and make sure they're not
standing alone.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Yeah you know, I I so appreciate that that kind of
disclaimer there.
You know, we don't want to sithere and be judge and jury, or
Monday morning quarterback asthey call it.
Thank you for that and I canresonate with that.
And we want to be so carefulhere at God's Way Radio.
That being said, you know, I'mthankful for our senior pastor.
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I mean, I wish and I would hopethat everyone is doing the same
.
And again, he's very thoughtful,he's very careful with his
words.
You know, he's gotten up, youknow, and said, for example, one
time he said, hey, he said thisis funny.
He said, hey, guys, just beforewe start the Bible study and I
love that he separates it fromthe study he says, hey, I want
to make a few comments and thenwe'll pray and we'll get into
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our Bible study.
And you know, if it comes up inthe Bible study it's great.
But otherwise he doesn't try tokind of mix things in there.
And again, he's just sothoughtful.
But point is, he said, hey,before we start the Bible study.
You know, some people will sayI'm too political and some
people say I don't talk aboutpolitics enough.
And then he says, you know, Idon't think I talk about
politics that much.
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However, today I'm going totalk about Amendment 4.
Today I'm going to mentionsomething and then he goes on to
say, hey, this is why this isharmful, this is why we need to
vote, no, this is why it'simportant.
And then he'll pray and we'lldo the Bible study.
So, just so important.
And again, you know, in thatsame Bible study, he'll say you
know, it's not about this partyor that party.
And you know, definitely, man,just great.
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So I mean, what anencouragement.
And we've been on this forseveral minutes now.
Pastors, leaders, if you'relistening, be bold, be bold.
And if you're listening and youhave your pastor's ear,
encourage them, ask them.
You know, I can tell you as anassistant pastor don't come and
berate us or berate them, youknow?
Hey, I have a question.
Have you heard about this?
Have you been praying aboutsharing with the church?
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Do you need anything?
I'm gonna just try to get inthere and be an encouragement
and just be a blessing.
So, so important.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
And Linda's available to speak.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
Hey, if any church wants to invite.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
Okay, tell us more about that.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
She just volunteered me.
You got volunteered.
Listen, listen.
I have members on the board aswell that would be more than
happy to come out with me andspeak, linda and Wendy, I'll
come with you.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
You're just going to keep going back and forth.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
Wendy's available, linda's available, but we are
available if anyone wants toinvite us to speak to a group or
whatever it is.
It's just that important.
Yes, yeah, to speak to a groupor whatever it is, it's just
that important.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
Yes, yeah, for sure, and I'm reading another
statistic here for this whitepaper report from Ohio and it
says that Christians voting withthe culture 30% of the
Christians voted with theculture.
And I'm reminded of mygrandchildren.
I have teenage grandchildren.
I've got three teenagegrandchildren.
Oh, actually, two of them are20 now.
Oh, my grandchildren.
I have teenage grandchildren.
I've got three teenagegrandchildren.
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Oh, actually, two of them are20 now.
Oh my gosh Wow.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Young adult grandchildren.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
They're in college.
You know it's like, oh my gosh,they're Gen Zers and I do my
best to really understand theirgeneration and what speaks to
their heart and this issue.
I talk to them about this issue.
It's important for me that theyunderstand what's at stake and
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when life begins.
When does life begin?
And so if I'm talking about thescriptures and what God wants
from me and how I should votefrom me and how I should vote
there, is no question that Ineed to vote the way God wants
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me to vote, and that's how Ianswer the question.
okay, what is God expecting fromme as a follower of Jesus
Christ?
And if I'm an image bearer andhe says you know that we are to
procreate and populate the world, what are we supposed to do
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with this decision, when peopleare saying it's your body and
your choice, yeah, okay.
So what does God have to sayabout that?
And we know, you know, we know,as followers of Christ, he
wants us to do the thing that ismorally right.
And I encourage my grandchildrento do what God intends them to
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do or wants them to do, and yetwhen we do that, we can share
with them.
Yes, this is God speaking to usfrom his word, and we are going
to have an opportunity to vote.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
Amen.
You know, that phrase andargument has never made sense to
me.
It's another body, it's anotherperson we're talking about.
We're not talking about yourbody, we're talking about this
other person.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
But we also, the scripture says that we make our
bodies, we submit them right,because our bodies uh are the
temple in which god residesanother point yeah and so it's
not our bodies if we'refollowers of jesus christ.
Speaker 5 (40:27):
Amen and can I just share something yes linda was
talking.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
I had a question.
Speaker 4 (40:31):
I don't want to forget, and you, uh, had asked
us before.
You know, it's important, justlike when we're sharing the
gospel of Jesus Christ.
It's important that when you'retalking about this, that you
don't beat people over the headwith it either.
I mean, there you know, you saythis is how you should be voting
.
But a lot what we found inspeaking throughout Miami-Dade
County is that a lot offollowers of Jesus are just not
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informed in this area, and sothey're not coming from a place
of not wanting to vote that way,it's coming from a place of not
being informed.
So most of the time, you'regoing to be informing people to
vote correctly, and if you dothat, people are willing to
listen and be educated on suchan important issue as abortion.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
Yeah, you know, I got to imagine how many people I
got to imagine.
It's a big number that they'rekind of.
Would I say this?
There's a word for it.
Dis disinterested is not theword there.
They've got him frustrated withthe whole thing and now they
don't care anymore.
There's an english word, it'sconnected apathy apathetic,
maybe, or indifferent to justpolitics and voting, and they
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stole the vote and they didn'tsteal the vote, and it counts
and it doesn't count, and thisperson and that person, and, and
, and they don't realize that Ihear you yeah, yeah so.
So I'm gonna make an extremestatement in the sense of
appealing to those folks.
Not that I necessarilysubscribe to this myself, that's
my disclaimer.
Okay, fine, even if none ofthat matters and don't care
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about any of that, but at leastvote on this thing.
You know what I'm saying.
Does that make sense?
That that might be, that mightappeal to some people, that,
okay, fine, let's say your votedoesn't count, or this or that,
or you don't care who's thepresident, or whatever, but this
, this matters.
You know, if you're a christianand you're fed up with the
system, at least vote on this Iagree with you, but we do need
to say that the elections domatter, right?
Speaker 5 (42:14):
at all levels, they do matter right.
Speaker 4 (42:15):
Amen At all levels.
They do matter and prayerfully,every Christian becomes as they
start to vote more and more.
I show up to every election.
Speaker 5 (42:23):
Amen.
Speaker 4 (42:23):
I mean because that's just my right and I'm a citizen
of this country and ourresponsibility.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
And our responsibility when you look at
a citizen.
Speaker 4 (42:31):
And so I look into who the candidates are.
But maybe not everybody's likethat, but this is how we express
the direction of our countryhere.
This is how we do it here inthis country, and so if you're
uninvolved, then what's thesaying?
Then don't complain about thedirection of our of our country.
If, spiritually, we're headingin the wrong direction and you
(42:52):
don't vote well, then you haveyour opportunity to be part of
the whole, yeah, and, and yourvote does matter.
If you don't vote well, thenyou have your opportunity to be
part of the whole.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
Yeah, and, and your vote does matter if you didn't
participate, don't complain,kind of thing yeah and so, and
so.
Speaker 4 (43:03):
This is how we elect our king, right?
This is how we stand up for whoour leader is going to be.
This is how we vote for thepolicies that our country is
going to stand for, and so youdo have to show up and you do
have to vote thank you for thatregister to vote and then Don't
just show up to vote.
Yeah, especially when it comesto judges and all of that.
Can I tell you something?
This is one thing we don't lackin this country information and
(43:23):
resources.
So we just have to make sure,especially in the media, that
you have a radio station, thatyou equip your listeners with
where they can go to be informedwhen they show up to vote.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
I'll tell you honestly, I kind of have a
secret weapon for that.
So our guest host on Thursdayshe's a gentleman named Ariel
Sagre.
He's an attorney and he alsohappens to be involved I don't
like saying politically, becauseI don't think that's the right
term he's on different, likecouncils and boards and stuff,
(43:53):
and so he has a good pulse onthese issues, current events,
legislation especially.
So I always ask him.
I said, hey, what do we need toknow what?
Speaker 1 (44:00):
do we need to be?
Speaker 2 (44:00):
talking about.
That's great so he's such anasset and such a blessing to the
ministry here.
I'm so thankful for him.
So, so not everybody has an adilike.
That's what I'm saying.
So you got to do your homework,you got to pray that the lord
will provide um, guys, uh,family, radio, family.
You know, if you can believe it, we're down to 15 minutes left
of our time together.
(44:21):
We've been here for over 45minutes.
There's a question I had that Ihope could be answered briefly,
and then there's other topics wewanted to talk about as well.
But if you're listening rightnow, you can call or text
786-313-3115 and you might bethinking okay, joey, fill me in.
I just tuned in.
What am I calling about?
What's going on?
Well, I'm talking quickly toget back to our guests, but let
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me catch you up.
It's linda and wendy from eve'swhole pregnancy center.
We've been talking pretty muchthe entire time about amendment
for, the need to vote no onamendment for, and talking about
what is at stake this upcomingnovember and talking about the
fact that all Christians need tovote no on Amendment 4.
And so we have somebody on theline.
(45:03):
We're going to take their call.
I did want to ask one question.
If this caller ID is correct.
My brother, just hang on for mefor just a moment.
But I would like to ask onequestion, because I think it's
important, if anyone is on thefence, and this is their
question if you could addresstheir question please.
It is well, you know, ifthere's an emergency or the
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mom's gonna die and everyone'sgonna die, and there's this
terrible emergency and rape andall these exemptions, well, if I
don't vote on this, then thenall the bad things are going to
happen.
I'm obviously summarizing verycrudely.
Speaker 4 (45:38):
Yes, so our current law in the state of Florida
allows abortion up to six weeks,but it does make an exception.
It makes exceptions for thecase of incest, rape or for the
health of the mother.
Now for the rape.
Obviously there's a policereport and something and that
needs to be presented becausethey need to catch whoever the
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offender was.
And so there's already thingsin place that will allow
abortion past six weeks in thoseareas of exceptions.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
And again, that's a whole other topic of what we
think about that God's word, howwe approach that, and I want to
let folks know that I'm notgiving you enough time to get
into all those, but I at leastwanted to answer that one
question.
Speaker 4 (46:19):
I'm just saying that.
That's our current law Correct.
That's what I wanted to get to.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
That's what I wanted to get to Thank you.
So we have somebody on the line, my brother.
I so appreciate yourfaithfulness If you could just
keep it really brief today.
Thank you for calling.
I believe this is Dural waterrepresented yes, it is yes, my
brother, go for it short andsweet please okay, short and
sweet.
Speaker 6 (46:40):
You guys know the election, when uh trump was
running, he got invited to abunch of not bunch a couple of
churches laid hands upon him.
They prayed for him, and what Ishare is trusting the Lord.
And then we do pray and guesswhat?
You didn't come out aspresident.
(47:02):
Don't lose the focus on Jesus.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
Thank you.
Speaker 6 (47:08):
Why I share that?
Because it's all about Jesus.
It's not about Trump, aboutBiden, it's about Jesus.
Jesus knows what he's doing andhe didn't want me to become
president for a reason you knowwhat He'll give glory to God
doing and he didn't want tobecome president for a reason.
You know what he'll give gloryto God.
Oh, but he didn't have a prayer.
Yes, he did answer the prayer.
He said no, and when?
Jesus says no what do you do?
The obedience?
(47:28):
A thank you, jesus.
You made that goal for a reasonand I'm not gonna go back there
to open thank you.
Speaker 2 (47:34):
Thank you, my brother .
Thank you so much.
God bless you, thank you.
You know my my biggest takeawayfrom his encouragement.
It really goes back to what Iwas saying you know, don't,
don't give up hope.
You know, if you're discouragedor disappointed with the
results or with something likethat, what a good encouragement.
I would like to hear about anupcoming exercise opportunity.
Speaker 3 (47:53):
No, that's not what it is it's so much more than
that, please tell us about theWalk for Life.
Okay, so we're really excitedabout the Walk for Life.
We hosted the first one.
Speaker 2 (48:05):
It was amazing.
Last.
Speaker 4 (48:07):
October.
It was so much fun and we hadover 250 people show up
Everybody was having a lot offun celebrating life, so this
year we're having another one.
Speaker 3 (48:16):
Okay, last year we told everybody there hadn't been
a walk in in miami for 15 years, for life.
But why was the walk soimportant last year?
Because we're celebrating lifeand we we held it in the evening
and it was just beautifulbecause we walked as light
bearers for our Lord and Savior,Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
It was so cool seeing the whole group of glow sticks
just going through the park.
It was amazing.
Speaker 3 (48:42):
So John 8, 12 says when Jesus spoke again to the
people, he said I am the lightof the world.
Whoever follows me will neverwalk in darkness but will have
the light of life.
And there's so many scriptureson the light, and particularly
us being lightbearers.
And so, as we talk aboutAmendment 4, we're the light in
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the world, we're the light inthis community, and we're going
to be walking October the 12thfor life as lightbearers, and
we're inviting all of thechurches in this county to walk
with us, united as one, as lightbearers.
For life means so much more tome and to all of us that we've
(49:28):
been working on this event.
Uh, because of amendment four.
Yes, you know.
So it's um, but what elsewendy's on the committee?
So, wendy, you want to say afew things about what we've been
doing?
Speaker 4 (49:41):
yeah, well, we want to make it bigger this year.
Speaker 2 (49:43):
Yeah, you know my prayer is that eventually we're
gonna have to close down ahighway or something I'm serious
.
I mean, there's what millionsof people in this county, yes,
it is probably over a millionchristians.
I don't know, I'm just throwingnumbers out, but enough enough
to have to shut down the street.
Thousands for sure.
Speaker 4 (49:58):
But I'm sorry I interrupted, wendy, please no,
there, this is a very tangibleway yes of standing up for life.
Maybe you're not a lobbyist,maybe you're not in the
political arena, maybe none ofthat, but we still can stand up
for life, and this is also a wayto teach children on on the
value of life, because it is afamily event.
Everybody comes out.
Speaker 2 (50:18):
Oh, my kids had tons of fun.
They love the free food at theend well, not free because we
registered, but they loved it.
Speaker 4 (50:25):
We didn't charge you for the food, it was included it
was included, so yes, it wasjust an atmosphere of really
people of light are people ofvictory.
People of victory are people ofjoy, and so when we gather in
those kind of numbers and thisyear we have a goal of maybe 400
people, 400, 500 people aswe're getting there, and it was
(50:47):
just such an essential part ofthe ministry to Eve's Hope, as
you know, is the boots on theground pregnancy center.
We're meeting her where she is,we're providing her with medical
information, medical services.
In the abortion process there'sso much information lacking and
she goes from a panic towardsan abortion pill without even
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thinking of the consequences.
And so at Eve's Hope, on ourmobile clinic, she's able to
pause for a moment to thinkabout the information that we're
presenting to her, to let herknow that there are other
options other than abortion.
And we have women who, afterhearing and seeing and getting
that free ultrasound Linda, whathappens?
Oh, they fall in love with thatbaby.
Speaker 2 (51:32):
They see their baby.
Speaker 4 (51:34):
That orphan baby in the womb now is a baby that is
loved, and we continue to bewith her, because it's not just
about the baby, it's about heras well and, as you know, pastor
Joey, at Eve's Hope she gets tohear the gospel every time she
comes.
Last year we had 119 clientsthat accepted Jesus as their
Lord and Savior, 16 born-againbelievers who wanted to
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rededicate their lives now theseare ladies that, even though
they were professed believers,they were seeking out
information on abortion yes, andinstead they rededicated their
life to thelord, yes, and so all of this is
happening, and so october 12this the day of celebration for us
to gather to see, to celebratewhat the Lord is doing at Eve's
(52:19):
Hope.
It is a fundraiser for us, soevery participant that walks
gets to register on our website,pay $35.
But what do you get for that$35?
You get a bag, a T-shirt, food,glow sticks and a lot of fun,
and a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (52:35):
I so appreciate your humility when talking about the
money, part of it.
But, guys, I'm going to, I'mgoing to go out and say it for
them Thirty five dollars, justdon't go to McDonald's once and
support Eve's Hope and said Imean seriously, I mean with with
price and everything.
It's like that's that's save alittle bit of money and and come
(52:56):
and walk and and support eve'shope and and again, guys, the
lord will lead you.
Guys, if, if you're paycheck topaycheck and and you're in a
tough season of life, prayer,prayer, prayer, prayer, uh, but
many of you listening it will bea good use of your finances and
you know we've already um, ourgoal this year is a hundred
thousand.
Speaker 4 (53:16):
Last year we raised 51 000, which was 10 000 more
than our goal, and we're sothankful to the lord for that
praise, praise the lord thisyear our goal is one hundred
thousand and, if I can just givea shout out, we already have
some sponsors yeah from lastyear that came back.
We have us century bank,kirtland financial management,
waters, mechanical card Sciencethey were all sponsors last year
(53:37):
and they're sponsors again thisyear.
And we also have some that justcame on board Kai's Real Estate
Company, the State Farm.
We have Miami Design Center 40Days for Life.
Speaker 2 (53:48):
Shout out to all you businesses supporting yes.
Speaker 4 (53:52):
All of them are sponsors as well, and so we're
just we're off to a great start,so go on, register to
participate and join us so thatyou can be part of this year's
walk eveshopeinfo yeseveshopeinfo.
Speaker 2 (54:04):
We're going to make sure to get that uh on our sites
as well, eveshopeinfo.
Um, we have just a coupleminutes left.
Any more information?
Speaker 3 (54:14):
or yes, I would encourage the.
The goal is to have as manychurches participate as possible
to extend the reach out this issomething different you're
trying to do, like groups thisyear.
Speaker 2 (54:27):
Okay, yes, so go ahead.
Speaker 3 (54:29):
So so what are we doing?
We're saying, okay, if somepeople are telling me, oh, but
our church is so small, it it'slike, well, come as a church,
you know.
Or my church is so big, youknow.
Well, come with your smallgroup.
So come with the people thatyou know from your church and
gather together.
So I saw, I know Wendy, wendycame with her church people.
Speaker 1 (54:50):
Oh my gosh, I knew who New Beginnings was.
Speaker 3 (54:52):
She had a lot of people from her church and then
some of the folks from otherchurches came in their small
groups with their small groups.
Or you can come as a family.
Your family came, beautifulfamily, and I remember your—.
Your picture's on the website.
Speaker 4 (55:08):
Oh cool, You're pulling the plug.
We walked in the kids' road.
They rode the wagon.
Speaker 2 (55:13):
That's right, rode the wagon and ate candy
Suffering the wagon.
Speaker 3 (55:21):
That's right, rode the wagon and ate candy,
suffering so so, um so.
So come register.
If you own, own a business andwould like to participate,
definitely let us know.
We would love to have yousponsor.
Speaker 4 (55:28):
Yes we put your logo on our shirt, on on yard signs.
Speaker 2 (55:31):
I actually just got a question from a listener, but
also they're a friend.
Um, they said is there like ainfographic on social media that
people could pass around andrepost, or not?
Speaker 4 (55:41):
yet it is on our social media, but, um, if you
can go to the website and thenfrom there, we'll be sure to
direct you to wherever.
Speaker 2 (55:49):
I don't have the address for our social media
right search up eve's hope onsocial social media and go on
the website as well.
We'll reconnect and we'll poststuff on our stuff as well.
Speaker 4 (56:01):
Okay, thank you.
Speaker 2 (56:02):
So eveshopeinfo is the main website and through
there you can find information.
If you find Eve's Hope onsocial media as well, there's
going to be information therefor the walk.
But this is a good suggestion.
This is a good suggestion thatI know you ladies are going to
take to heart, and oh,definitely, and lindsay and I
don't have social media andthat's why it doesn't naturally
(56:24):
flow, but we do need to wait.
You want to know somethingfunny.
Speaker 3 (56:27):
Neither do I but uh, but.
Speaker 2 (56:30):
But the radio has one and and we try to get
information out through there,okay, so if you can, post it on
your site, then they can findthe information.
Speaker 3 (56:38):
We'll be sure that they get what they need to get.
Now we have cards that weproduce for the various churches
, who individuals are churchambassadors for us, and we have
a code, the.
Qr code and it takes youdirectly to that, to that um, to
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that website, and you canparticipate thank you so much
for your time.
Speaker 2 (57:04):
I can't believe it.
Speaker 4 (57:05):
We have seconds left but, I think I told you so much
more to talk about it was timewell spent.
Speaker 2 (57:11):
Uh, ladies and gentlemen, listening, I mean,
we've just talked about suchimportant things.
If, if I could ask you for twothings if you can fit them into
your weekend, go to eveshopeinfo, register for the walk,
participate, engage with Eve'sHope some way online and make
sure you're registered to voteand vote no on Amendment 4.
(57:31):
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Have a wonderful weekend.
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