FWTW S3E09 | Why True Success Requires Soul Healing: Gina Cavalier on Trauma, Art, and Authenticity - From Wounds to Wisdom (Previously the Mental-Hell Podcast)

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SPEAKER_00 (00:01):
What happens when the woman who helped build
Hollywood's magic suddenly losesherself behind the scenes of her
own life?
Today I'm from Wounds to Wisdom,Gina Cavaller shares the moment
everything fell apart and thespiritual journey that brought
her back to the truth of who sheis.
Let's dive in.

SPEAKER_02 (00:23):
Back in 2019, I was very suicidal.
I was working in theentertainment industry.
I had a couple really big fallsin my career personally.
I was giving the money awaybecause I was planning on
leaving the planet.
I was really forgetting to takecare of myself in the form of
mental health.

SPEAKER_01 (01:11):
Gina has expanded her impact through storytelling,
product innovation, and deepspiritual work.
She's an author, artist,producer, speaker, and inventor
who uses media and mindfulnessto uplift communities and
support emotional healing.
This conversation is a deep diveinto purpose, creativity, and
transforming pain into powerfulservice.
Welcome, Gina.

SPEAKER_02 (01:32):
Thank you for having me.
Hello, everybody.
Hope everybody is feeling thegood vibes today.
And if not, sending out you outa big hug and hoping we can get
there together.

SPEAKER_01 (01:42):
Well, a lot of big names in your bio and who you
are and all of that.
Can you kind of give us an ideahow you went from the corporate
world into what you do now?

SPEAKER_02 (01:52):
Well, I had a very traumatic childhood, but I
really was a fighter and Iwanted to prove to myself that I
could achieve my dreams.
So I was a workaholic, um, youknow, overachiever, and I did.
I achieved a lot.
Uh I started working at Disneywhen I was 19 years old, um, you
know, worked two jobs, you know,just constantly pushing myself

(02:13):
and loving everything andeveryone around me, getting to
work on some of the biggestprojects in the world, like
Harry Potter, Fantastic Beast.
You know, I helped create, youknow, wedding crashers, all
kinds of different reallyamazing projects, you know, but
in the background, I was reallyforgetting to um take care of
myself in the form of mentalhealth, loving myself.

(02:36):
And I crashed.
I crashed really hard when I hada couple of traumatic
experiences come into my lifethrough the divorces or
situations at work.
And um it really took me down aself-pity route.
And um my old wounds as a childcame back and you know, it
became very dangerous, but I wasafraid to express them to anyone

(02:58):
else until I decided I have toheal this.
This is more important than anywork or project or anything I
could ever, you know, put myselfinto.
And um I did did a deepspiritual dive, very, you know,
what it's you know, to me, it'slike either it doesn't have to
be spiritual.
Um, it could just be, you know,uh practices of loving yourself.

(03:18):
But for me, it was a big portionof that.
And um just went in and wenthard and um rode the roller
coaster of healing, stillwriting the roller coaster of
healing, you know, and um, youknow, achieved some of the
things that I thought I neverwould, which was getting two
publishing deals.
Now writing a fictional series,very akin to like a Harry

(03:40):
Potter, speaking to a producertoday about um, you know, maybe
creating that.
And that's that's what I alwayswanted to do.
I was a um creator, and I alwaysfound that creating is hard, you
know.
It is much harder to build abuilding than it is and knock it
down.
Um destroy things is easy, tokick people in the face is easy,

(04:02):
they'll get kick around, but tocreate and to constantly be into
that um creative and in thatunconditional love is hard, you
know, and it's it takes apractice.
So I work on it.

SPEAKER_01 (04:13):
So many things that you said I love, right?
So I love the being a creator ishard because it's absolutely one
of the hardest things to do.
There's a lot of people in theworld who want to create, but I
think because we turn off thatcreativity when we um don't
honor ourselves and all thosedifferent things, we actually
find that we're mimicking othersversus creating.
Um and we call that creator,right?

(04:33):
Like even content stuff, right?
So there's so many, even in likeHollywood, you can see movies
and then you're like, oh, I'veseen this movie like 15 times
before because they're justremaking movies because there's
no new creative stuff coming in,right?
I see you're like holding yourheart because it's this coming.

SPEAKER_02 (04:49):
Because I literally have a meeting with one of the
top producers in Hollywood todayabout my book um that I
co-authored with um JeanetteDePatty.
And it's a five-book series,it's like Harry Potter.
And um, you know, I I went andlooked at all the movies that
are coming out with the studiosfor the next six, seven years.
They list them all out, andevery one of them is like a

(05:10):
remake of the TV shows that wesaw as kids.
And Hollywood is going throughan influx, and um, we're all
recognizing that we get to, youknow, we watch a movie, we put
our heart into it, and all of asudden it just flat lines out
and it's gone, or it'srepetitive.
And I the industry is goingthrough a shakeup right now, but
we just need to let creativescome back in.

(05:31):
They're working off of fear, youknow, like you know, we have to
recreate something that workedbecause we have to have a win,
you know, instead of fallinginto what their role originally
was to be create storytelling tohelp people dream.
And this storytelling issomething that has been a part
of our ancestors from thebeginning of time, is never

(05:52):
going away.
But we have to go back to thatsimplicity-ness, that heart,
that open heartness of it, andlet creators create, even if
they haven't had a win yet.

SPEAKER_01 (06:02):
Right.
Yesterday and today I wassaying, well, what if I just
stop putting like a number or anexpectation to things, right?
What if I stop qualifying mywork by how much I make?
What if I stop um stepping on ascale and deciding my worthiness
by how much I weigh?
What if I just stop, right?
Like, what's gonna happen?
You think like the world's gonnafall apart, but I think that

(06:24):
when you just stop, you actuallyget just to simply be, be who
you are, allow the creativity tocome in because we are so closed
to our creativity becausethere's so much, like you're
told you have to make thisamount of money, your worth is
defined by your success.
Um, you know, you have to look acertain way, you have to weigh a
certain amount.
All of these things we're toldwe have to do.

(06:45):
And it's kind of like what youwere talking about in the
movies.
They can't be creative becausethey have to earn a certain
amount of money, right?
That movie has to hit number onein the box office every single
time.
It's like, how is that supposedto happen?
Like there's just some moviesthat aren't gonna hit number
one, but maybe their story isamazing, you know.

SPEAKER_02 (07:03):
And if they actually went and been more authentic
with their creativity, peoplewould feel it more because,
especially children, I mean,they can see the manipulation,
the formulaic um and theuncaring characterization so
quickly, right?
And then they just get boredwith it and be done with it, and
then you're over.
So I just think going back tothat authentic place.

(07:25):
And if you look at filmmakersthat we just loved back in the
day, I mean, studios used to umfind a creative spirit and they
we used to let them create, likeStanley Stanley Kubrick or
whatever.
You know, he used to get carteblanche, like be creative,
Oliver Stone.
You know, they don't do thatanymore.
And so, you know, lettingcreators be creative is gonna be

(07:46):
like such a huge win if we everget there.
You have to stick to what youbelieve in and not let those I
call them judgments andcriticisms, and something that
we also need to monitor how wedo to other people.
And it can be really hard.
It could be small things, but wedon't realize how much that's
dampening us.
And I've really worked reallyhard.
It's like, why am I judging thatthing or that person?

(08:08):
And I reel myself back in, Ithrow them love instead, and
then I move on my way.
But that's been a practice,yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (08:16):
It's definitely a practice.
We do it to um our spouses orour partners that what a
financial relationship, thefinancial part of a relationship
breaks up so many relationshipsbecause it's like they're not
good enough, they're not makingenough money, or maybe you're
not good enough, you're notmaking enough money, or together
we're not making enough money,or they're we're always
qualifying people by thequantity that they can offer to

(08:38):
us.
And I really think that you seethat just the same, like you
said in Hollywood and the moviesand the TV shows.
When you're talking, it remindedme of that show Frasier.
I don't know if you ever watchedFrasier.
They had the best episodes untilthe staff, they they some of
them passed away on a planecrash, and then it went to like
a generic writing um crew whodidn't have like the same

(08:59):
creativity, and you just saw theshow like go downhill.
It used to be this like fun,amazing.
Um, it's like George Cartlin,right?
He just says whatever it is thathe wants.
And those people who are free tobe who they are are the people
who have made such amazingthings in our life.
And then we have all theserestrictions, and then it shuts
us down, and then we can't bewho we want to be because we

(09:21):
feel like we have to fit intothis box that we're told is
where we're supposed to live.

SPEAKER_02 (09:25):
Absolutely.
And the industry is goingthrough a transformation, just
like all industries are.
And it people aren't talkingabout it that much.
So the variety does a couplepieces about it right now.
They almost they're embarrassed,like Detroit lost all of its car
making cut capabilities.
And we're in the same thing withthe with the Hollywood right
now.
There's hundreds and hundreds ofthousands of people out of work

(09:46):
and have been out of work foryears, and they're not filming
there anymore.
You'll see it in your product,in your in your shows.
I just think that storytellingis is magical when it is a part
of being a human because we loveit.
We see things in visual uh artand we just need to, I think the
answer is to let people go backand be creative and to support

(10:07):
those people, put money behindthose people.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (10:10):
Yeah, I think that, and we go back to this.
Like, I think that thecreativity is lost when there's
expectations, but also whenthere's judgment, right?
Because everybody wants to havean opinion about everything.
And so if you put something outthere that's original, you know,
you're gonna get both sides ofit.
You're gonna be get people whoget it, and then you're gonna
get the people who justabsolutely hate it and then just

(10:31):
say like really nasty thingsabout it.
And my feeling about it is ifyou don't get it, cool.
But there are people who willget it, right?
And if you don't like it, gosomewhere else.
You don't have to like everysingle movie, you don't have to
like every single song, youdon't have to like every single
book, but just let people be.
Tell us about your um, yourbook, and I want to talk about
uh while we're on here, you haveso much on your plate.

(10:54):
You came from a world of beingan overachiever, which I
understand that 100%overachieving is basically
trying to prove your worth,right?
Somewhere in your life youdidn't feel worthy.
And so it's like if Ioverachieve and I prove to
everybody how good I am, then Iwill then at some point feel
worthy or I will feel enough atthat point, which you never do
because you're looking for itexternally.
So I know you wrote a book, Iknow that you are busy, but are

(11:17):
you busy as an overachiever?
Are you busy being you?
You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 (11:20):
Oh gosh, uh busy just inventing and creating.
So back in 2019, I was verysuicidal.
I was working in theentertainment industry.
I had a couple really big fallsin my career um personally, and
I just I didn't want to be hereanymore.
But I had accumulated uh, youknow, a good amount of money
equity in my home, almost like$700,000.

(11:42):
And I didn't want to just, I waslike, wow, I just don't want to
like lose that or that to go tonobody because I didn't, I
didn't get to have kids and Idon't have people to leave that
to.
So I sold my home and I startedpaying off people's bills, just
rented a place in HollywoodHills and I had a big birthday
party, and I would, you know,pay my friends' bet bills, my
friends' legal bills.

(12:02):
I was giving the money awaybecause I was planning on
leaving the planet and nobodyknew it.

SPEAKER_01 (12:07):
Nobody questioned that like they weren't like, how
could you sold your home andyou're just spending all your
money?
Like I kind of a red flag.

SPEAKER_02 (12:13):
No, but what was so beautiful in it was that was
sort of the letting go of thehome ownership and that whole
thing that I needed to be thatwoman that owned this and had
those things and the ability todo that stuff.
I honestly, that whole journeymade me fall in love with
myself.
It made me release the power ofmoney over my soul.

(12:35):
Right, right.
And uh it really owns ussometimes, you know, it can be
last a lifetime where it's likethat one dollar that thing, you
know, and I released money.
I was like, you mean nothing tome in a way, you know, it really
does, of course it does, but Ihad to reform my relationship
with money as well.
And I did that, and I literallygave away all my money, and I'm

(12:58):
still currently rebuilding mylife.
I have a day job now where I goto all the time.
And um I'm working with a bunchof 25-year-olds, and I don't see
it as a you know a negative atall.
I'm learning new things, I'mmeeting new people.
It's something I can put in mytoolkit.
I'm proud of myself for um juststaying in the positive and and

(13:19):
and having this opportunity.
And at night I still write andwork on my things.
I I just um I have a lot moreenergy because I I manage my
energy.
I have more space to createbecause I really manage where
I'm putting all my energy,right?
That's what we were talkingabout earlier.
It's you know, getting up.
Am I gonna sit there and watchnegative stuff over Instagram

(13:41):
and Facebook and the news?
And I'm, you know, I touch baseon it just to know what's going
on in the world, but then Ileave it.
Like things that I I'm gonna putall my energy into things I
cannot control or have say in.
Um, my first book, I was soproud to get published because I
didn't really have a collegedegree, and everybody kind of
told me I was never going tolike get a publishing deal, but

(14:03):
I did.
And that was uh talked about mebecoming having suicidal
tendencies and then healing fromthat.
And I have two book deals, andthen my other book coming out in
January called Planet Walking, aHandbook for the Living.
And I wrote that book in sevenweeks, 70,000 words.
I did probably 15 illustrations,also an illustrator in art.

(14:26):
I've published over a hundred umblack and white uh illustrations
and magazines and books.
So I'm continuing that.
I'm doing an art show next week.
I realized artwork was a way forme to channel my pain.
Yeah.
Um, and I used to just thinkthey were doodles, but then
people wanted to buy them.

SPEAKER_01 (14:43):
So do you notice when when you channel it, it
comes out and it's like thisbeautiful piece.
But then as soon as there's adollar amount put on it and a
pressure to do it, it seems likeit changes.

SPEAKER_02 (14:55):
Not for me.
Um, because when I do art, Iliterally zone in, I tunnel
vision.
And I when I do a piece of art,I don't stop until it's done.
And I'll stay up all night longif I have to.
And I oh, I and then I own Inever touch it again.

SPEAKER_01 (15:10):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (15:11):
So I just execute it and then I'm done with it.
And then I just put it out inthe world.
I've been lucky with the art,that's what I do.
This the writing, like thewriting is where my mind goes,
what are they gonna think aboutthat?
And because I have an eight asum a literary agent now, you
know, and then I'm so nervouswhen she comes back with like I
have a few notes, you know, andit's just that whole, oh, it

(15:31):
comes over like a personaljudgment, right?

SPEAKER_01 (15:33):
Like it might like it comes back as a personal
thing versus like it's the book,it's not you.
So her comments aren't about youas a person, it's just about the
words and the book or the flowof the book or the case may be.
I want to go back to the suicidething because one thing that I
have learned in my journey, andone thing that I've learned by
all the people I've talked to,is that when we oftentimes, not

(15:55):
everybody, but oftentimes whenyou come from a hard childhood,
one that has trauma, abuse,whatever the case may be, it's
actually a go-to to think aboutsuicide.
It's literally a go-to.
It's like a coping mechanism.
It's like I can't do thisanymore.
I've already endured so much,and I just have nothing left to
give the world.
And so I love what you saidabout tools.

(16:16):
I always talk about, you know, Idon't believe anybody's ever
quote unquote healed.
I believe that we're on ajourney.
And as you develop more toolsand you add them to your
toolbox, then when things comeup that you've had come up in
the past, you simply have moretools to use, right?
So, like with your idealizationof like having like a suicide
thing a few weeks ago orwhatever, you weren't going to

(16:38):
commit suicide.
Your brain just defaulted backto a thought that, you know, I
can't do this anymore.
This is too much.
But you then used your toolsfrom your toolbox that you
taught yourself or that youlearned and got out of it.
And that's perfectly normal,okay, and a beautiful process,

(16:58):
right?
Because now you know the nexttime that comes up.
Because if that's your default,it's going to come up sometime,
right?
You know that you have the toolsto move forward out of that.

SPEAKER_02 (17:10):
And yes.
And my maybe the biggest thingis I didn't know I didn't love
myself.
I thought I liked myself, but Ididn't.
And the way that you can tell,and so it's learning how to fall
back in love with yourself.
Um, you know, I love my husband,my friends, my job, my projects,
you know.
And then inside I would talk tomyself like I was a POS, a

(17:31):
terrible person.
And I knew in my heart, I go,I'm a good person.
I try, I'm kind, you know, Ihave great qualities that I
admire even about myself.
But why do I let myself thisisn't love?
The way you're talking to my theway this brain is talking to
myself right now, that's notlove.
So it was falling back in lovewith myself.

(17:51):
My mom even makes fun of me now.
She's like, You marriedyourself.
And I was like, Yeah, I kind ofdid.
That's how much I love myselfnow.
I mean, so even though I hadthat bad moment, I still was in
love with myself.
I still honored myself, and I'mlike, I'm in pain.
I just tired, you know, and Iwant to leave because you know,
I've just I want the sufferingto go.

(18:11):
And it does go.
That's the thing is that youwill transform that momentary um
pain.
And in those moments, we wantpeople to know who to this uh
Jordan Peterson actually saidthat because I've you know,
obviously listened to a lot ofum conversations about this
topic, and he said one thing hesaid, can you just wait one more

(18:33):
day?

SPEAKER_01 (18:34):
Yes, that's what I wish the message would be for
people who are in that state.
Just wait one more day, and thenif the next day isn't great,
wait one more day, but just giveyourself the time because at
some point, some point it willget better.

SPEAKER_02 (18:49):
And it the energy that really dark energy, though,
like in our in this book herethat I have this surviving
suicidal ideation that Ico-wrote with Dr.
Amelia Kelly, we put the stagesin there.
So that was like say a stagefive where you're like, Oh my
god, I really want to go, youknow.
Um, you can wake up and be atstage one, yeah, you know, or or

(19:10):
not at all in any stage.
So yeah, you have to kind oflike know where you're you are
and manage yourself a littlebit, you know.

SPEAKER_01 (19:17):
And you can wake up and be at stage five.
Yeah.
You might have just been, youknow, pushing along and not
taking care of yourself and nothonoring yourself and just you
know, just overdoing it andliving in a world that doesn't
honor you, or maybe you're doingwork that doesn't honor you, or
whatever the case may be.
And then you wake up and you'relike, one day, like, you know,

(19:38):
this is I don't want to do thisanymore.
I don't want to get out of bed.
Like, I just simply don't wantto do it.
And again, I want people toremember everybody goes through
those days.
Everybody.
There is not a single person inthe world who has woken up every
single day of their life andwent, oh my God, this is like
the best thing ever.
You know, even what we call likespiritual leaders, you know,

(19:59):
like Gandhi and all of thosedifferent people, they have
those, they talk about the timesin their life where they were at
a point where they did not wantto live anymore.
We all go through it and somepeople to more extremes because
of our past, but just giveyourself, like you said, give
yourself one more moment, giveyourself one more day.

(20:20):
Use tools, learn tools fromother people who have gone
through it, like you, likemyself, that we're offering to
the world so we know that you'renot alone.

SPEAKER_02 (20:28):
I heard a thing about Buddha, which I didn't
know much about Buddha before.
They said, Well, what did Buddhalearn?
Like he learned how to find thelight in the dark.
Yep.
And that really stuck with mebecause you know, even if say
you go in a dark situation, itcould be you had a car accident
or breakup or uh a job loss, youknow, and it feels dark.
Right.
What is that light that why isthat?

(20:50):
What's the driving force?
Maybe it's maybe it's there foryou to get you out of that
position or away from thatperson, or you know, and you and
it's hard to do that in themoment because all the old
storylines start to come up, youknow, like if you said, I'm
unworthy, I don't deserve thisor whatever.
But maybe that person isn't foryou.
Maybe this is something to helpyou go to the next phase and

(21:13):
exactly look behind you and go,thank goodness I'm not with that
thing person anymore or in thatjob anymore, or you know, or I
accidentally woke me, you know.
That's why people talk aboutnear death experiences and like,
oh my, you know, my whole lifechanged after that because they
wake up a different version ofthemselves with that experience
behind them and realize thatthey have something to do here,

(21:35):
that it's important, whatever itis, to walk with, you know,
every day I try to say whatexcites me the most with what I
can do.
Like I have two hours left.
I have to work all these otherhours.
What's gonna, what's the whatI'm gonna do with those two
hours that is gonna reallylighten up my spirit and put a
smile on my face and make mefeel light right now.
And I'll find something, whetherit's drawing or listening to a

(21:59):
speaker that really inspires me,meditating.
Sometimes it's just being quiet,going shopping.
What is it gonna do?
Sometimes you need to do all ofit.

SPEAKER_01 (22:08):
Yep.
And there's that, there's thatquote that says, Comparison is
the thief of joy.
And oftentimes when I get into aspace where my head's kind of
spinning, that will pop into mymind because almost always it's
the comparison thing, right?
Like I'm not doing enough, I'mnot making enough, I'm not blah,
blah, blah, blah, blah.
My best friend from high schooltold me that one time.

(22:30):
And I was like, wow, like what abig thought.
Because it's almost alwaysyou're comparing, it's almost
always some sort of comparison.

SPEAKER_02 (22:38):
Well, the suicidal rates for the youth are just
skyrocketing worldwide.
And a lot of it, and theexactly, you just hit it, is
about comparison.
They see what other people'shave, and you know, they got
filters, and they just say, Oh,I'll never get there.
And the youth, even people intheir 20s and 30s that I talk to
still is like, Oh, I'm nevergonna have that person.
And it's I'm like, you gottapull yourself out of that, you

(23:00):
know.

SPEAKER_01 (23:00):
And because it's not real, anyways, like nobody puts
their crap moments out there,very few people, right?
Like, no, they don't show up andlike their hairs in a ponytail
from waking up in the morningand they look like crap, and
then they get on camera andthey're like, Today I feel like
shit.
Like, like they always put theselike stories out there that's
like one percent of their life,and that's what we're comparing
ourselves to.

SPEAKER_02 (23:21):
And I'll see people because I'm an artist, I'm like,
you know, somebody who it looksabsolutely not like anybody that
you would think is quote unquotetypically attractive, and I
think they're the mostfascinating person in the world,
you know.
You maybe just a real big nose,or like I'm like, oh my god,
they're just a they'rebeautiful, beautiful.
But um, because we have to wewe're falling in line it with

(23:43):
that type of world, you know,we're creating the world that we
want our children to see.
And so as an adult, even thoughI don't have children, I find it
very it's very responsible.
That's why the projects I workon and what I put out, you know,
I want that like even my um,it's called Thomas Fine and the
Mystery School, and we have fivebooks scheduled.
We would have the first bookwritten, and that's what who

(24:04):
we're meeting with the produceron.
And we it's a whole underwaterschool, and it's like we do have
diversity.
And even though um people say,Oh, diversity is this and that,
it's like the world is made, weare all diverse.
I mean, right, it was alwayshere, you know.
We have we have the gamut ofdiversity in this world, and
it's a great thing, you know.

SPEAKER_01 (24:25):
Yeah, I love that.
So let's wrap up and give me twothings.
One, what is your wisdom thatyou can offer to the people who
are listening today?
And then two, how can they findyou?

SPEAKER_02 (24:35):
Sorry, I'm just taking a moment.
Yes, good.
I I wrote this down when I wasabout nine years old, this line,
and I love it.
And I didn't understand it untilnow.
You are the joy that nothingelse is.
You are the joy that nothingelse is, joy, the word joy.
Hold on to that word joy andfeel it.
It's such a beautiful worldword, and know that that is what

(24:58):
you really are at your core.
Right.
Um, my name is Gina Cavalier,GinaCavalier.com.
I'm all over Instagram,Facebook, anywhere else.
I have a YouTube channel, GinaCavalier, Gina Cavalier, Gina
Cavalier.
I'm everywhere, Amazon, andyou'll find all kinds of ways to
connect with me.
I respond to every singleperson.
I really want people to have joyin their heart, to be creative

(25:20):
and move towards their highestexcitement, and to
unconditionally love yourselffirst and then everyone else.

SPEAKER_01 (25:27):
Yeah, I love that.
Thank you.
I will put um some of yourcontact information in um in our
description, and then they canjust go from there to find more
information about you.
But we look forward to your bookseries coming out.
We look forward to all of thebeautiful creative things that
you're doing, and we're sograteful.

SPEAKER_02 (25:46):
So grateful for your time and energy and uh letting
me have this moment.
Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 (25:51):
Absolutely.
We look forward to if this storyspoke to you.
Let's keep the healing going.
Visit Barbiemoreno.com for myonline course, Awakening Your
Worth in Healing EnergySessions, one on one coaching,
and your free healing guide.
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