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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the From Wounds to Wisdom podcast with
your host, barbie Moreno, wherewe dive into people's past and
discover what wounds theyincurred and how they
transformed those wounds intowisdom to help themselves and
others.
Welcome to the From Wounds toWisdom podcast.
(00:27):
This is your host, barbieMoreno, and today's guest is all
about bold energy, big mindsetshifts and living life with
moxie.
Rhonda Lee Bigg is a mindsetcoach, author and host of Fresh
Talks, global Vision.
With over 15 years in media andcoaching, she helps people
break free from old patterns,calm their nervous system and
step into their power.
(00:48):
She's on a mission to sparkreal change personally and
globally, through energy, work,vitality, coaching and
unapologetic authenticity.
Let's welcome Rhonda and getinto what means to be truly live
, energized, aligned and bold.
Thank you for being here.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Thank you, barbie.
I love that intro.
I'm feeling like a superstar atleast for me.
We're just talking through theheart.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
I appreciate you, thank you, I love that.
And before we started we kindof had a little side
conversation about the fact thatwe're both intuitive people and
being intuitive people andbeing in coaching and being in
this world.
Previously we had to kind ofhide this part of us, right, but
now we feel empowered and Ithink it's important for us to
(01:33):
be empowered in thatintuitiveness because it is who
we are.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
I used to think it was something to hide from and
I'd say even the last year I'vegotten more open to it because I
was a CPA accountant, corporateblack and white.
And I'd say even the last yearI've gotten more open to it
because I was a CPA accountant,corporate black and white.
And then, when I started inthis industry about 17 years ago
, it was like something happened, you know, and it just opened
me up and I was like my clientsthough I knew it helped them,
(02:00):
but they helped me first by mehaving some clients that were
just highly intuitive and I waslike that seems normal to me.
And it they helped me first byme having some clients that were
just highly intuitive and I waslike that seems normal to me
and it just helped me lean intoit more.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
And so I know that you shifted from being a CPA to
what you're doing now.
Did you have like so?
You know the podcast is fromwounds to wisdom.
Did what shifted that for you?
Where did you go from thatworld of being very analytical
and all of that into thisbeautiful person that you are
today?
Speaker 2 (02:30):
I love feeling beautiful, because I know you're
talking about the inside andthe aura of that.
There's so many stories whenyou start talking like this,
because I'm just thinking of somany different things, but the
story I do want to share todayis around the time that I
started this accounting, cpastuff.
(02:51):
This is the point where I metmy love that I've been married
to now for 27 years and thefeeling that everything should
be fabulous, because I was soexcited I was going into an
industry that now I realize youknow like, even though I want it
to be masculine.
(03:11):
My whole life I thought I wasprotected as a man, like strong
that nobody would hurt me, right, and I came in that way in life
consistently since I wasyounger, about wanting to one
upup people like in a masculineway, like you did you.
You curled that if we're in theyou know the gym, oh, I can do
more.
Or you did that in the yard, Ican do that too.
(03:34):
And it didn't matter how big theperson was, how strong they
were.
But it was this feeling that Ihad to keep myself safe and I
was in that space when I firststarted my career in accounting,
first meeting this man that Ilove so much.
But I wasn't feeling asempowered as I thought that if I
look back and I go, if this wasthe right alignment, how did it
(03:55):
spin like free flow?
Everything would be great.
But what happened was I endedup on thyroid medicine and I
noticed that I wasn't reallyspeaking my truth at that time.
I could have shared more abouthow I was afraid of certain
things that were going on.
I was afraid of having thislove that I never thought about
marrying anybody at all.
(04:17):
And all of a sudden it was likejust this natural, easy thing.
But in the back of my head Iwas in torture, I was scared, I
was breaking out in hives.
I didn't know how to managelife of my head.
I was in torture, I was scared,I was breaking out in hives.
I just I didn't know how tomanage life of my heart being
exposed.
I wasn't used to it naturallybeing open.
It was like open, close, open,close.
And it was just based on myatmosphere.
(04:37):
What mask am I going to wear?
And I wore a mask when Istarted in my accounting
industry because I wanted to bemasculine.
There were more men in there,even though more women were
coming in, but I wanted to makesure that I never showed that I
didn't know how to do something.
So I would work extra, extrahard, extra extra hours.
I would just kind of killmyself and be working until
(05:01):
really, really late, studyingall the time, because I thought
that if I zip it up and Ipresent myself in a way where,
like exterior, okay, I'm look asperfect as I can be, I'm going
to buy the clothes that I needto buy.
I'm going to act the way I do.
I'm going to watch how otherpeople act so I can act like
that, and it's like this whole,you know, robotic thing.
So I ended up on thyroidmedicine because I wasn't
(05:23):
speaking my truth and we'retalking, you know, holistic here
today we just started that andso I was muffled so much in my
it was a very high time becausethere were so many things coming
at once that were so wonderful,but I wasn't knowing how to
authentically enjoy it.
Yeah and um.
So I stayed on medicine for 20years, and that whole time I
(05:46):
wanted to speak my truth, butthe medicine was saying don't
worry about it, the medicine hasyou, has your back, and so I.
Somehow you know, if we thinkabout energetics, about this,
somehow, for some reason, when Istopped taking it 10 years ago,
I literally felt a veil comeoff me where I could breathe,
(06:07):
but I knew that I had to get intruth right away, or, you know,
not being on thyroid medicine,it takes care of every part of
your body.
That was my pivot, though tostart speaking my truth,
listening to it and reallyfeeling my pain, the pain of not
speaking to finally flowing,really feeling my pain, the pain
(06:28):
of not speaking to finallyflowing, and I felt all the
wounds that I was feelinggrowing up and how that
calculated throughout my wholelife and I started unwinding it
and unpacking it.
It changed my world, where towhere I felt soft and love, and
I feel love consistently.
My goal is to look at my family, my kids, my hubby.
How much more can I infuse loveinto that?
Yeah, because I miss so manyyears of open, close, open,
(06:51):
close.
So there's like this wound thatjust keeps healing and healing
and I think, even if I live tobe a hundred, I'll still be like
you know clearing it because Ithink we're just ever growing
and there's never a to-do moment.
I really appreciate thatactually.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Yeah, I mean, if you're not always conforming and
changing and growing, what'sthe point, right?
But I have.
I understand your story becauseI, too, conformed to a male
dominated industry.
I worked in corporate and I, Ichanged who I was to fit in with
what.
You know, they thought somebodylike me should be.
(07:27):
And so you know, you, you turn,you have a wall up, you change
the way that you speak, you, youknow, you do all of these
different things that are notauthentic.
But I think that that's verycommon for businesswomen in
particular, because, again, mostof those fields are male
dominated and so if you showyour femininity, if you show
(07:49):
your emotions, then you're kindof like, oh, she's like that
emotional girl.
You know what I mean, and soyou're not taking taken
seriously.
I want to ask you so you talkabout your thyroid and the fact
that once you started empoweringyourself and using your voice,
you no longer needed the thyroidmedication.
And a lot of people are goingto be like I don't understand
the correlation between the two.
(08:10):
So can you tell us like what?
One, how you figured that out?
And then, two, you know wedon't want people just going off
their thyroid medication, right, but but how did you correlate
that one?
You know equal, basically theother.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
I didn't know it at the time, but I was a health
coach.
I've been a health coach for 15years.
I've been in the healthindustry cumulatively about 25
years and so I didn't think ofthat.
But in some ways I did.
I'm like, oh okay, if I get offmy medicine, and that's
probably as far as I got, youknow what I mean.
Like I was scared it and that'sprobably as far as I got.
(08:45):
You know what I mean.
Like I was scared.
It's like I didn't get to thenext step.
If I get off my medicine, youshould do this.
So how you connect those is thatif you're not speaking your
truth, that means it slows yourbody down.
You have a slower metabolismwhen you get in a situation that
is not serving you like.
I even look at tongues.
You know just like the flow ofthe and your tongue really says
(09:06):
a lot about what's going on inyour body.
You just have more white onyour tongue, like you're
stagnant in energy.
And so I started looking at mytongue more, because that was
something I learned in healthcoaching and I got in deeper
with my tools.
Now I knew that my mind wasdoing something that was
affecting me, because I startedlooking at like my timeline in
general, it started giving me anunderstanding.
(09:28):
If I open up my mind and myvoice to this new person that
wants to come out, that's beenhere all the time, but it's been
hiding.
I can see every bout when I wasfeeling sick, when I'd pass out
, and there was these incidentsthat happened.
So okay, so my mind now, if Iconnect that, that means I'll
feel more free.
That means my whole system, myendocrine system, my chakras, my
(09:51):
energy cycles.
However, you want to see that Istarted opening up more.
But wait, I gained 60 poundsalmost overnight.
Now I'm a health coach and 60pounds extra.
How do I step into that?
So what I looked at is okay,mindset, but what about what
else?
Okay, I need to stop havingpizza with the kids once a week,
not before.
I'd be like, oh well, my bodycan handle that and it's like,
(10:13):
yeah, but I mean energetically,do I really?
Am I really attracted to thatfood?
Because my big goal is thisthis actually sounds a little
sexier.
If I go here, my kids have that, I'm going to have a really
good.
You know, whatever it was,because sexy to me felt like I'm
putting energy in my body downto the cell level and my kids
get to enjoy that, because pizzais wonderful, certain times at
(10:36):
that, though without takingmedicine.
Come on, rhonda, let's you know, let's get in there deep.
So I got in deeper with thosetools and I started not working
out so much because I wasoverworking out, because I
started working out when I was14.
It was just one of those thingsI did and I go how can I slow
things down?
I literally did all of that,that package.
(10:56):
It got me deeper into what Iwas doing with my health
coaching clients, which is great, but it got me to see me and
really have the empathy of whatI was doing.
So all those kind of cametogether.
That's how that connects.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Yeah, I mean, in my online course and my coaching, I
also talk about slowing down.
Like you know, there'severybody does cardio and they
don't understand that actuallystresses out your system more
and then you get more cortisoland then you gain weight, and
they don't understand.
And so a lot of the practicesthat I teach are somatic.
So a lot of people don't knowwhat somatic is, but it's
basically moving the energy inthe body through different
(11:30):
movement or yoga.
I mean you can do cardio, butyou don't do cardio every day,
right, you have to take care ofyour body in other ways and I
think that that's part of thehealing process.
So it's amazing that you alsounderstood that, because we're
just taught do cardio.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Oh, did you ever call yourself cardio queen, Like?
It just was like.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
I was never.
I did not need to prove myselfin the gym.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
I could care less, I'm the best prove myself.
Cardio queen meant to me islike that's all I want to do is
cardio, like that is my center.
And I love, like I said, sexismand I love clean up, because I
don't think of it as ego, Ithink of it as like we are all
leveled up.
We just don't understand.
So there's no ups or higherlevel or anything.
So when I use those words, it'sinterchangeable for anybody,
(12:17):
you know.
But I I was, I was very focusedon cardio and now it's.
It's not like that, you know.
So I love that you're doing thatwork too, because the movement
of the body, if we pull if I cango here for a moment if we pull
the stress off our body, ournervous system is known to
create pharmaceuticals.
So that's where you get theprotein, that's where you get
(12:40):
the.
You know, the repairing of thecells, that's where you get to
release all the old cells.
Well, we can go on with that,but I don't want to go too far.
But our body knows how to takecare of ourselves.
So why are we beating it up?
We don't need to do that.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Right, that's about the, but you have to feel worthy
before all of this, right?
So if you don't feel likeyou're enough, if you don't feel
like you're worthy, if you'reliving in your past and your
childhood trauma and all ofthose different things, you're
not going to be able to do thesethings.
So I believe that the firststep is really establishing your
worthiness and knowing thatyou're born worthy and you're
(13:15):
born enough, and then everythingelse is just you know
experiences.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
I hear you.
Yeah, I think about that.
I think about connection also,like because why are you not
going to beat yourself upBecause you think, well, if I
stay up late could I geteverything done?
It's like proving yourself topeople and you go isn't that
what I'm supposed to be doing?
But I guess you're right whenyou feel the worthiness.
It's like that connection andunderstanding that if I get
(13:43):
connected with this is what mygoal is here and I feel safe in
it.
Yeah, I feel safe.
So it means I'm going to getresults.
So I always think of like howcan I share maybe a testimonial
or something?
So somebody feels like, okay,I'm going to try this.
I feel uncomfortable becauseI'm so used to doing whatever
the extreme is.
Let's just try it.
(14:04):
Let's even try it for a week.
And I like to look at at I loveto be a coach because you get
to help somebody actually seethe difference.
So even if it's 10%, we're justtalking one week, right,
somebody would think they wouldbe a failure.
But you go here, wait and whatmy first book is called the fit
solution, and it's with a doublet.
That last t is aboutcelebrating.
(14:25):
So when you even get onepercent, it's way different than
if you did nothing at all.
So sometimes we don't get tothe full vision.
Sometimes it's, you know,mapping it out.
So that celebration is reallyimportant, so people can look at
even within 24 hours what achange can be Right.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
That's what I think about when I and I think people
expect big change really fast,right?
That's why there's all of these, like you know, quick diets and
all of these other differentthings that never really last.
But then also that has to dowith, you know, the nervous
system doesn't change overnight.
The physical body doesn'tchange.
The mindset doesn't changeovernight.
The routines, the patterns, allof these different things that
(15:04):
we've had our entire life, we'vetaken all of these years to
develop them, they're not goingto change overnight.
And then people give up.
So when you're doing yourcoaching, how do you keep people
from giving up?
Speaker 2 (15:16):
I love on them.
I think you know it's.
It really is because peoplearen't used to being loved on.
I very seldom get people thathave been in that space where
they've been loved on a lot, sowe get the opportunity to be in
quiet space with them.
And when they're not showing up, how can I get into that space
with them so that they canreally just have a smile for a
(15:39):
moment?
Even because I had somebody theother day that was like totally
cut off in the head and has, uh, is known as a love bug, a very
nice person, but somethinghappened within um seven days
since last time I saw them, andso how do you get somebody that
is not connected with their body, their heart, but they're just
speaking like this, but they arelike in logic, like no, I, I do
(16:03):
that because of this, I do thatbecause of that.
I'm like here, this is adifferent person than what I saw
, even seven days ago.
So it's building that trust withsomebody so you can actually
call them out, so they don'tfeel like they're smacked across
the face.
You know you're like hi-yah andthen, but some people have been
with me for a while, I can dothat, and they go oh, yeah, yeah
, yeah, but it's.
It's just that your words youget to be more straight up, but
(16:25):
people who you just startworking with, when they get
shifted off, that way, you'rejust dancing around just making
sure where the opening is andit's just through words and also
like energy work, you're justkind of feeling their flow to
make sure that you pivot thembecause they won't want to be
with you If you can't changethat atmosphere that they came
in on, there's going to be angry, and so I've had that too.
(16:47):
At the beginning I was likepeople are leaving me and I go.
What?
It's not my fault?
And then I thought, oh, ego,yeah, open up your heart, rhonda
, prepare yourself for the day,because this is actually bigger
than what you originally thought.
A health coach can be now abusiness coach.
Because of you know mybackground, just these things
are happening.
Now I'm a business coachbecause of you know my
(17:09):
background, just these thingsare happening.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
So I think it has to do with love and nurturing and
safety.
Do you um?
Do you deal with a lot ofpeople who are um stuck in their
past, trauma?
I think everybody is yeah, Imean, everybody has a story,
right.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Yeah, but we're not it's like we're not therapists
so we don't like go muddle onthe back and go, okay, let's do
this, let's talk about this.
It's like you don't have to.
It's like when somebody ismoving forward, if they say
something, they're safe enoughto say it.
So you just are listening andyou go, ah, you see how that?
Oh yeah, and then they may besad for a while because they're
(17:43):
clearing it, but they finallyget to hear it.
So everybody's in it, justdepending on what level.
And I find that I used to thinkthat money was tethered on, like
your healing space, because Iwas like I'm gonna make more
money as soon as I clear myselfmore and I'm like, oh well, that
doesn't work that way.
I have to relax, not be my oldcorporate self, like to do black
(18:05):
and white list, but to reallyfeel everything is energy.
So if I keep going in withenergy with people, it doesn't
matter what level they're in it,just I know.
I like I think, barbie, you'regoing to say the same, but maybe
in a different way, but I justcan feel where somebody is, or
like even the words and thephrases they say, that I go, oh
(18:26):
yeah, they're really set, butthey don't see it.
Oh, this is great opportunityto talk about words and framing,
but also kind of let thembreathe, give them some space,
not be on them so much as you'retrying to hold that space.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
And I want to talk about money, because often money
is one.
It's, you know, what people aredriven by, but they don't
understand that there is anemotional attachment to the
money, usually proving yourselftrying to show that you're not
scarcity.
There's not enough money in theworld and I have found through
my self-worth and work is thatmoney really only abundance?
(19:03):
Because you can get money andabundance and you know abundance
doesn't only include money,right, but if you honestly honor
yourself and live the lifethat's aligned with you, it
always just seems to come.
Yeah, you know, you don't haveto work, so hard for it exactly.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
You know you could work a lot of hours and not feel
like you're working hard,because sometimes you want to
work a lot of hours, so you knowto do different things, but it
doesn't mean you're going tobring more money in it's.
It's like understanding.
You know, like I thought peoplewere hoity-toity, that person
thinks they're better thansomebody like all those kinds of
things.
So clearing that kind of stuffand knowing when it shows up.
(19:43):
But really, if you're doingyour work and I'm also playing
with my calendar, with this,which means my calendar is based
on you know who's on myschedule, how many clients I
have and stuff like that, so Ihaven't played with my calendar
now spiritually I'll see somepeople back to back and I go oh,
that doesn't, that doesn't seemto work.
That energy and somehow andthis has been like just the past
(20:04):
month and so somehow somebodymoves and goes to another day
and it works and I just goRhonda, hands off your calendar,
yeah, hands off, let the flowhappen.
And so it's been really magicalgoing into that.
That is where money getsintroduced, and I was just
interviewing somebody a couplehours ago and when you're with
(20:25):
people that need help, you knowhow to have that conversation.
It's you're not a vulture,you're not trying to make money
off of somebody.
I have my show.
It helps me bring in leads, butI don't think of them as leads.
I'm like I want to know thehuman condition, I want to
experience something withsomebody.
But if I find that, hey, youhave like five things you're
talking about, how can we bringthat together?
(20:46):
I can help you.
And the funny thing is thisperson I interviewed a couple
hours ago we have anotherappointment on the calendar and
we don't know why it's there.
We go well, why is the 21st onthere?
And I said so, do you want touse that?
We can connect because wealready started to talk about it
.
And I go dang, that calendar iscool.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Yeah, yeah, I always.
I always schedule personal time.
Like there are Tuesdays I don'ttalk to anybody, right, like
Tuesdays are my day, especiallybecause I'm a mom, and on the
weekends are my children's time,like you know, basketball games
, water polo, all of thosedifferent things that you don't
get any personal time.
So I really feel like it'simportant for us, whatever day
(21:27):
works for you, or if it's just ayou know certain hour of the
day, to take time to re-energizeand to heal.
And if you don't do that, thenyou're just running, you're
running on no energy, right?
So you're actually going intoenergy depletion, going into the
negative.
There's a speaker who talksabout that.
But if you're in the negativeon your energy, you're never
going to be your best self.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Oh, my gosh, barbie.
Can we talk about that?
I know we're getting close tothe end here, but you know I'm I
feel like we're speaking aboutalignment.
If I'm depleted and this iswhat I've been discovering and I
want to partner with you onthis thing is alignment.
(22:08):
I have so much energy,everything flows.
I can be doing 10-hour days,but it's like I get more and
more energy as the day goes,because the alignment of what
I'm doing, I go okay, that was agood day.
Why, why did I have that energythat day?
And I think of it that way.
So if I feel depleted, I goback to okay, what's happening.
(22:28):
Where's there not alignment?
And I look in health too and Igo okay, so you have an asset
reflex.
Let's talk about that.
Where's that?
Do you know what I mean?
I kind of like map things outon, not how many hours I am
working or somebody is workingand why they're exhausted.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
It gets more into alignment to me and I think,
like it's I don't know about you, but there will be people that
I dread, right.
So like I'm like, oh, Ischeduled a lunch and then like
I shouldn't have scheduled alunch with that person because I
really don't enjoy our timetogether and so I've been
eliminating those.
If I look at the calendar andyou're on my calendar and I'm
(23:05):
dreading hanging out with you ordreading talking to you or even
dreading coaching you, right, Ihave to take you out of my
energy because you are suckingmy energy away and there's only
you know I need to protect myspace and if I'm dreading you,
there's obviously not analignment.
It means other people might bealigned with you, but maybe I'm
not, and that's okay.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Yeah, yeah, I think of frequency.
You know we were talking aboutall this spiritual stuff and
when you start pulling peopleaway, you know it's just kind of
like you just end up meetingpeople like Barbie.
I thought that we're supposedto be together and I get curious
because then that means I'm inthe right alignment If I keep
working on my heart, I keepdoing my morning work, I just
(23:51):
hands off.
Let's trust in the divine thateverything is good, and that
means Barbara needs to be in mylife for this interview, or
there might be something in thefuture, and I don't have to make
it up, it's just.
Let's just keep being curious,yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
I'm going to be able to block you, People that block
you.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
They really mess you up.
You know what I was like.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Yeah, and you can feel it.
You can feel it draining youright?
Same thing with activities.
Like if you're puttingactivities on your calendar and
you're dreading them, either youneed to look at like why am I
dreading them or is theresomething that's not aligned
with me?
But I am going to be on yourpodcast, so can you tell us a
little bit about your podcast sothat it can kind of introduce
people to your podcast what youtalk about, and then they can
(24:31):
check out your podcast?
Barbie.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
I thought I was going to act like a seven year old
and do this.
Yay, yay, I get that out.
Okay, so mine is called freshtalks global vision.
I've been doing this kind ofstuff for about eight years.
I used to travel with peopleand have you know, uh,
videographers and do all thesethings, and so I love playing.
As you see, the way I'm dressedI love.
(24:56):
Dressing like this just makesme feel so fun and just playful,
and that's kind of what theshow is about.
It's a way to say hey, you canbe whoever you want.
I call it hashtag speaker,locking arms that you're going
to be on the show.
We get to lock arms and expresswhat you are doing with your
clients and what you're doingeven within your own camp
(25:18):
yourself, because how, if yousaw people do that in a
trajectory, how could thatchange the human experience?
And I like to talk about thislike that, that vision, because
what we're doing here, if wetake a step back, as I think
about this show, we're reallybringing in mindset,
transformation, entertainment,and that's what I want.
(25:38):
I want you to come and play andjust be yourself and experience
what you want to experience,and I will be there just guiding
and listening and making surethat we get into like locking
arms.
And my thing is about stoppingthe blaming and shaming, which
means allow yourself to beyourself.
Allow and this is another thingI had to learn to stop having
(25:58):
control over somebody.
Having a husband for 27 yearsthat he would say something I'd
be like you know, and I just getinto all these things.
I go, can't wait.
That is control.
It's me being irritated no,that's not irritation, even
though people call it that.
And so the show is about, if wekeep playing all in alignment,
(26:19):
that we're going to find eventhe closest people we have to us
that we're going to find eventhe closest people we have to us
, that we're going to be able tobe all as one so we can make a
bigger trajectory out there.
That's really what the show isabout, did I?
It sounds kind of grayish andplayish, but no, I love it.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
And the blaming and the shaming all that does is
keep you stuck right.
It just keeps you stuck, likeblaming other people.
Look, everybody has theirexperiences.
They do what they do for areason, whether it's survival,
self-protection, whatever thecase but you are ultimately in
charge of your own life, right?
I mean, obviously you want totrust in something that's a
(26:54):
higher power, in my opinion, butyou're in charge of your life.
So to blame other people or toshame yourself for decisions
that you made in the past whenyou didn't know better Maya
Angelou when we know better, wedo better right?
Love her, and so I think thatthat's such an important topic
and I look forward to peoplebeing able to go to your
podcasts and listen to yourprevious people, and obviously
(27:16):
would love them to listen to me,but I am sure that you have a
vast history of amazingconversations.
Can you tell us how people canget ahold of you or if they're
more interested in what you do?
Do you have a website?
Do you have a YouTube channel?
Speaker 2 (27:30):
I do have all of that .
You could go to my RhondaLiebig, oh, my tree.
So you can go to my tree andfind different things.
So it's my name, ronda liebigl-i-e-b-i-g-l-c-e there dot com
forward slash tree.
Okay, and on there you can findout about my fun little ronda
(27:51):
lumoxi show, which is free, butjust monday kicking it off for
the week to the show, to freeevents, I have to those kinds of
things, and you can just kindof check out what you want to
come and play with me with yesLove that and I'm going to
include.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
I checked out your Instagram and your Tik TOK.
You have like over 10,000people.
I'm like how the heck did youdo?
Speaker 2 (28:12):
that it's just it's constant playing and like
literally locking arms withpeople in and, and social media
is about friendships and youknow, like you're just playing
in your communities to make sure, like community meaning.
I follow a few people and Imake sure that I'm talking with
them because I know their lovebugs and they're in alignment.
So that's what it's about.
(28:33):
It's not but comparison, allthose kinds of things that can
kind of be negative.
People are afraid to promoteand do those things.
But yeah, that's.
I think that's how we keepgrowing.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
I love that you love love.
Oh, like silly thing to say,but really like I love that you
love love.
Love is it's everythingSelf-love, love for every you
know, understanding, compassion,empathy, love.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
When I started making that change in the love area my
brain because of being quietand learning about myself and
how this was like a naturalthing, but it was just kind of
covered up that I heard my brainsay you are lying, you're a
fool, nobody really cares aboutlove because in the past that's
why I closed it.
But also to start loving onthings, it looks kind of phony
(29:16):
if you haven't done it, and itcan look phony because it's
uncomfortable at first.
But I just kept feeling, no,this is what makes me feel safe.
That's all I kept thinkingabout.
So how could love make me feelsafe?
Is because intuitively, I couldhear who was in front of me or
what group I was in, and thatwas better than closing off and
trying to get scared in thebrain like everybody's doing
(29:37):
this or looking at me this way.
Scared in the brain likeeverybody's doing this or
looking at me this way, whateverthat is.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
So love is the safest place and it's not taught
enough.
It's not taught in schools,it's not taught in the workplace
.
It's actually looked down uponif you're too you know
lovey-dovey or too connected topeople because they almost I
feel like some people justsimply can't accept it, so
they're almost turned off by itbecause they haven't learned how
to accept love and how toreceive love.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
I don't know if I would be able to receive
somebody like me.
You know, at 29 years old Iwould have been now you crazy
old lady, right Like it doesn'tmatter what your age is.
I got to.
So, phony, but that's what Ilove about it is that you just
keep moving forward.
It's okay.
What people think, yeah, it'sokay, that's all right.
(30:25):
You know, cause I've been thereand I've done other things,
like what you said.
Just forgive yourself.
And the more you forgiveyourself, the more you expand,
because you'll do foolish things.
I mean you're like, oh yeah,that was foolish.
Or you'll be mean for a moment.
You go yeah, that was mean.
No, don't do that again.
Let's have a conversation withso and so, because that was okay
, you know.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Yeah, we're always learning and growing well.
I appreciate having you on theshow.
I will put all of your links inthe description and I look
forward to being on your show aswell.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
I can't wait to play some more Barbie.
Thank you, I appreciate thetime here and being silly but
really being grounded in thestuff we talked about, because I
enjoy play.
But you know, the good stuffbehind all that is that we had a
good conversation.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
I appreciate it, I agree and I think that anybody
that is able to be coached byyou is very well taken care of.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
My heart just is it.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Woo.
All right, rhonda.
Thank you.
Welcome to the From Wounds to Wisdom podcast with
your host, barbie Moreno, wherewe dive into people's past and
discover what wounds theyincurred and how they
transformed those wounds intowisdom to help themselves and
others.
Welcome to the From Wounds toWisdom podcast.
(00:27):
This is your host, barbieMoreno, and today's guest is all
about bold energy, big mindsetshifts and living life with
moxie.
Rhonda Lee Bigg is a mindsetcoach, author and host of Fresh
Talks, global Vision.
With over 15 years in media andcoaching, she helps people
break free from old patterns,calm their nervous system and
step into their power.
(00:48):
She's on a mission to sparkreal change personally and
globally, through energy, work,vitality, coaching and
unapologetic authenticity.
Let's welcome Rhonda and getinto what means to be truly live
, energized, aligned and bold.
Thank you for being here.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Thank you, barbie.
I love that intro.
I'm feeling like a superstar atleast for me.
We're just talking through theheart.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
I appreciate you, thank you, I love that.
And before we started we kindof had a little side
conversation about the fact thatwe're both intuitive people and
being intuitive people andbeing in coaching and being in
this world.
Previously we had to kind ofhide this part of us, right, but
now we feel empowered and Ithink it's important for us to
(01:33):
be empowered in thatintuitiveness because it is who
we are.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
I used to think it was something to hide from and
I'd say even the last year I'vegotten more open to it because I
was a CPA accountant, corporateblack and white.
And I'd say even the last yearI've gotten more open to it
because I was a CPA accountant,corporate black and white.
And then, when I started inthis industry about 17 years ago
, it was like something happened, you know, and it just opened
me up and I was like my clientsthough I knew it helped them,
(02:00):
but they helped me first by mehaving some clients that were
just highly intuitive and I waslike that seems normal to me.
And it they helped me first byme having some clients that were
just highly intuitive and I waslike that seems normal to me
and it just helped me lean intoit more.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
And so I know that you shifted from being a CPA to
what you're doing now.
Did you have like so?
You know the podcast is fromwounds to wisdom.
Did what shifted that for you?
Where did you go from thatworld of being very analytical
and all of that into thisbeautiful person that you are
today?
Speaker 2 (02:30):
I love feeling beautiful, because I know you're
talking about the inside andthe aura of that.
There's so many stories whenyou start talking like this,
because I'm just thinking of somany different things, but the
story I do want to share todayis around the time that I
started this accounting, cpastuff.
(02:51):
This is the point where I metmy love that I've been married
to now for 27 years and thefeeling that everything should
be fabulous, because I was soexcited I was going into an
industry that now I realize youknow like, even though I want it
to be masculine.
(03:11):
My whole life I thought I wasprotected as a man, like strong
that nobody would hurt me, right, and I came in that way in life
consistently since I wasyounger, about wanting to one
upup people like in a masculineway, like you did you.
You curled that if we're in theyou know the gym, oh, I can do
more.
Or you did that in the yard, Ican do that too.
(03:34):
And it didn't matter how big theperson was, how strong they
were.
But it was this feeling that Ihad to keep myself safe and I
was in that space when I firststarted my career in accounting,
first meeting this man that Ilove so much.
But I wasn't feeling asempowered as I thought that if I
look back and I go, if this wasthe right alignment, how did it
(03:55):
spin like free flow?
Everything would be great.
But what happened was I endedup on thyroid medicine and I
noticed that I wasn't reallyspeaking my truth at that time.
I could have shared more abouthow I was afraid of certain
things that were going on.
I was afraid of having thislove that I never thought about
marrying anybody at all.
(04:17):
And all of a sudden it was likejust this natural, easy thing.
But in the back of my head Iwas in torture, I was scared, I
was breaking out in hives.
I didn't know how to managelife of my head.
I was in torture, I was scared,I was breaking out in hives.
I just I didn't know how tomanage life of my heart being
exposed.
I wasn't used to it naturallybeing open.
It was like open, close, open,close.
And it was just based on myatmosphere.
(04:37):
What mask am I going to wear?
And I wore a mask when Istarted in my accounting
industry because I wanted to bemasculine.
There were more men in there,even though more women were
coming in, but I wanted to makesure that I never showed that I
didn't know how to do something.
So I would work extra, extrahard, extra extra hours.
I would just kind of killmyself and be working until
(05:01):
really, really late, studyingall the time, because I thought
that if I zip it up and Ipresent myself in a way where,
like exterior, okay, I'm look asperfect as I can be, I'm going
to buy the clothes that I needto buy.
I'm going to act the way I do.
I'm going to watch how otherpeople act so I can act like
that, and it's like this whole,you know, robotic thing.
So I ended up on thyroidmedicine because I wasn't
(05:23):
speaking my truth and we'retalking, you know, holistic here
today we just started that andso I was muffled so much in my
it was a very high time becausethere were so many things coming
at once that were so wonderful,but I wasn't knowing how to
authentically enjoy it.
Yeah and um.
So I stayed on medicine for 20years, and that whole time I
(05:46):
wanted to speak my truth, butthe medicine was saying don't
worry about it, the medicine hasyou, has your back, and so I.
Somehow you know, if we thinkabout energetics, about this,
somehow, for some reason, when Istopped taking it 10 years ago,
I literally felt a veil comeoff me where I could breathe,
(06:07):
but I knew that I had to get intruth right away, or, you know,
not being on thyroid medicine,it takes care of every part of
your body.
That was my pivot, though tostart speaking my truth,
listening to it and reallyfeeling my pain, the pain of not
speaking to finally flowing,really feeling my pain, the pain
(06:28):
of not speaking to finallyflowing, and I felt all the
wounds that I was feelinggrowing up and how that
calculated throughout my wholelife and I started unwinding it
and unpacking it.
It changed my world, where towhere I felt soft and love, and
I feel love consistently.
My goal is to look at my family, my kids, my hubby.
How much more can I infuse loveinto that?
Yeah, because I miss so manyyears of open, close, open,
(06:51):
close.
So there's like this wound thatjust keeps healing and healing
and I think, even if I live tobe a hundred, I'll still be like
you know clearing it because Ithink we're just ever growing
and there's never a to-do moment.
I really appreciate thatactually.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Yeah, I mean, if you're not always conforming and
changing and growing, what'sthe point, right?
But I have.
I understand your story becauseI, too, conformed to a male
dominated industry.
I worked in corporate and I, Ichanged who I was to fit in with
what.
You know, they thought somebodylike me should be.
(07:27):
And so you know, you, you turn,you have a wall up, you change
the way that you speak, you, youknow, you do all of these
different things that are notauthentic.
But I think that that's verycommon for businesswomen in
particular, because, again, mostof those fields are male
dominated and so if you showyour femininity, if you show
(07:49):
your emotions, then you're kindof like, oh, she's like that
emotional girl.
You know what I mean, and soyou're not taking taken
seriously.
I want to ask you so you talkabout your thyroid and the fact
that once you started empoweringyourself and using your voice,
you no longer needed the thyroidmedication.
And a lot of people are goingto be like I don't understand
the correlation between the two.
(08:10):
So can you tell us like what?
One, how you figured that out?
And then, two, you know wedon't want people just going off
their thyroid medication, right, but but how did you correlate
that one?
You know equal, basically theother.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
I didn't know it at the time, but I was a health
coach.
I've been a health coach for 15years.
I've been in the healthindustry cumulatively about 25
years and so I didn't think ofthat.
But in some ways I did.
I'm like, oh okay, if I get offmy medicine, and that's
probably as far as I got, youknow what I mean.
Like I was scared it and that'sprobably as far as I got.
(08:45):
You know what I mean.
Like I was scared.
It's like I didn't get to thenext step.
If I get off my medicine, youshould do this.
So how you connect those is thatif you're not speaking your
truth, that means it slows yourbody down.
You have a slower metabolismwhen you get in a situation that
is not serving you like.
I even look at tongues.
You know just like the flow ofthe and your tongue really says
(09:06):
a lot about what's going on inyour body.
You just have more white onyour tongue, like you're
stagnant in energy.
And so I started looking at mytongue more, because that was
something I learned in healthcoaching and I got in deeper
with my tools.
Now I knew that my mind wasdoing something that was
affecting me, because I startedlooking at like my timeline in
general, it started giving me anunderstanding.
(09:28):
If I open up my mind and myvoice to this new person that
wants to come out, that's beenhere all the time, but it's been
hiding.
I can see every bout when I wasfeeling sick, when I'd pass out
, and there was these incidentsthat happened.
So okay, so my mind now, if Iconnect that, that means I'll
feel more free.
That means my whole system, myendocrine system, my chakras, my
(09:51):
energy cycles.
However, you want to see that Istarted opening up more.
But wait, I gained 60 poundsalmost overnight.
Now I'm a health coach and 60pounds extra.
How do I step into that?
So what I looked at is okay,mindset, but what about what
else?
Okay, I need to stop havingpizza with the kids once a week,
not before.
I'd be like, oh well, my bodycan handle that and it's like,
(10:13):
yeah, but I mean energetically,do I really?
Am I really attracted to thatfood?
Because my big goal is thisthis actually sounds a little
sexier.
If I go here, my kids have that, I'm going to have a really
good.
You know, whatever it was,because sexy to me felt like I'm
putting energy in my body downto the cell level and my kids
get to enjoy that, because pizzais wonderful, certain times at
(10:36):
that, though without takingmedicine.
Come on, rhonda, let's you know, let's get in there deep.
So I got in deeper with thosetools and I started not working
out so much because I wasoverworking out, because I
started working out when I was14.
It was just one of those thingsI did and I go how can I slow
things down?
I literally did all of that,that package.
(10:56):
It got me deeper into what Iwas doing with my health
coaching clients, which is great, but it got me to see me and
really have the empathy of whatI was doing.
So all those kind of cametogether.
That's how that connects.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Yeah, I mean, in my online course and my coaching, I
also talk about slowing down.
Like you know, there'severybody does cardio and they
don't understand that actuallystresses out your system more
and then you get more cortisoland then you gain weight, and
they don't understand.
And so a lot of the practicesthat I teach are somatic.
So a lot of people don't knowwhat somatic is, but it's
basically moving the energy inthe body through different
(11:30):
movement or yoga.
I mean you can do cardio, butyou don't do cardio every day,
right, you have to take care ofyour body in other ways and I
think that that's part of thehealing process.
So it's amazing that you alsounderstood that, because we're
just taught do cardio.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Oh, did you ever call yourself cardio queen, Like?
It just was like.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
I was never.
I did not need to prove myselfin the gym.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
I could care less, I'm the best prove myself.
Cardio queen meant to me islike that's all I want to do is
cardio, like that is my center.
And I love, like I said, sexismand I love clean up, because I
don't think of it as ego, Ithink of it as like we are all
leveled up.
We just don't understand.
So there's no ups or higherlevel or anything.
So when I use those words, it'sinterchangeable for anybody,
(12:17):
you know.
But I I was, I was very focusedon cardio and now it's.
It's not like that, you know.
So I love that you're doing thatwork too, because the movement
of the body, if we pull if I cango here for a moment if we pull
the stress off our body, ournervous system is known to
create pharmaceuticals.
So that's where you get theprotein, that's where you get
(12:40):
the.
You know, the repairing of thecells, that's where you get to
release all the old cells.
Well, we can go on with that,but I don't want to go too far.
But our body knows how to takecare of ourselves.
So why are we beating it up?
We don't need to do that.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Right, that's about the, but you have to feel worthy
before all of this, right?
So if you don't feel likeyou're enough, if you don't feel
like you're worthy, if you'reliving in your past and your
childhood trauma and all ofthose different things, you're
not going to be able to do thesethings.
So I believe that the firststep is really establishing your
worthiness and knowing thatyou're born worthy and you're
(13:15):
born enough, and then everythingelse is just you know
experiences.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
I hear you.
Yeah, I think about that.
I think about connection also,like because why are you not
going to beat yourself upBecause you think, well, if I
stay up late could I geteverything done?
It's like proving yourself topeople and you go isn't that
what I'm supposed to be doing?
But I guess you're right whenyou feel the worthiness.
It's like that connection andunderstanding that if I get
(13:43):
connected with this is what mygoal is here and I feel safe in
it.
Yeah, I feel safe.
So it means I'm going to getresults.
So I always think of like howcan I share maybe a testimonial
or something?
So somebody feels like, okay,I'm going to try this.
I feel uncomfortable becauseI'm so used to doing whatever
the extreme is.
Let's just try it.
(14:04):
Let's even try it for a week.
And I like to look at at I loveto be a coach because you get
to help somebody actually seethe difference.
So even if it's 10%, we're justtalking one week, right,
somebody would think they wouldbe a failure.
But you go here, wait and whatmy first book is called the fit
solution, and it's with a doublet.
That last t is aboutcelebrating.
(14:25):
So when you even get onepercent, it's way different than
if you did nothing at all.
So sometimes we don't get tothe full vision.
Sometimes it's, you know,mapping it out.
So that celebration is reallyimportant, so people can look at
even within 24 hours what achange can be Right.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
That's what I think about when I and I think people
expect big change really fast,right?
That's why there's all of these, like you know, quick diets and
all of these other differentthings that never really last.
But then also that has to dowith, you know, the nervous
system doesn't change overnight.
The physical body doesn'tchange.
The mindset doesn't changeovernight.
The routines, the patterns, allof these different things that
(15:04):
we've had our entire life, we'vetaken all of these years to
develop them, they're not goingto change overnight.
And then people give up.
So when you're doing yourcoaching, how do you keep people
from giving up?
Speaker 2 (15:16):
I love on them.
I think you know it's.
It really is because peoplearen't used to being loved on.
I very seldom get people thathave been in that space where
they've been loved on a lot, sowe get the opportunity to be in
quiet space with them.
And when they're not showing up, how can I get into that space
with them so that they canreally just have a smile for a
(15:39):
moment?
Even because I had somebody theother day that was like totally
cut off in the head and has, uh, is known as a love bug, a very
nice person, but somethinghappened within um seven days
since last time I saw them, andso how do you get somebody that
is not connected with their body, their heart, but they're just
speaking like this, but they arelike in logic, like no, I, I do
(16:03):
that because of this, I do thatbecause of that.
I'm like here, this is adifferent person than what I saw
, even seven days ago.
So it's building that trust withsomebody so you can actually
call them out, so they don'tfeel like they're smacked across
the face.
You know you're like hi-yah andthen, but some people have been
with me for a while, I can dothat, and they go oh, yeah, yeah
, yeah, but it's.
It's just that your words youget to be more straight up, but
(16:25):
people who you just startworking with, when they get
shifted off, that way, you'rejust dancing around just making
sure where the opening is andit's just through words and also
like energy work, you're justkind of feeling their flow to
make sure that you pivot thembecause they won't want to be
with you If you can't changethat atmosphere that they came
in on, there's going to be angry, and so I've had that too.
(16:47):
At the beginning I was likepeople are leaving me and I go.
What?
It's not my fault?
And then I thought, oh, ego,yeah, open up your heart, rhonda
, prepare yourself for the day,because this is actually bigger
than what you originally thought.
A health coach can be now abusiness coach.
Because of you know mybackground, just these things
are happening.
Now I'm a business coachbecause of you know my
(17:09):
background, just these thingsare happening.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
So I think it has to do with love and nurturing and
safety.
Do you um?
Do you deal with a lot ofpeople who are um stuck in their
past, trauma?
I think everybody is yeah, Imean, everybody has a story,
right.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Yeah, but we're not it's like we're not therapists
so we don't like go muddle onthe back and go, okay, let's do
this, let's talk about this.
It's like you don't have to.
It's like when somebody ismoving forward, if they say
something, they're safe enoughto say it.
So you just are listening andyou go, ah, you see how that?
Oh yeah, and then they may besad for a while because they're
(17:43):
clearing it, but they finallyget to hear it.
So everybody's in it, justdepending on what level.
And I find that I used to thinkthat money was tethered on, like
your healing space, because Iwas like I'm gonna make more
money as soon as I clear myselfmore and I'm like, oh well, that
doesn't work that way.
I have to relax, not be my oldcorporate self, like to do black
(18:05):
and white list, but to reallyfeel everything is energy.
So if I keep going in withenergy with people, it doesn't
matter what level they're in it,just I know.
I like I think, barbie, you'regoing to say the same, but maybe
in a different way, but I justcan feel where somebody is, or
like even the words and thephrases they say, that I go, oh
(18:26):
yeah, they're really set, butthey don't see it.
Oh, this is great opportunityto talk about words and framing,
but also kind of let thembreathe, give them some space,
not be on them so much as you'retrying to hold that space.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
And I want to talk about money, because often money
is one.
It's, you know, what people aredriven by, but they don't
understand that there is anemotional attachment to the
money, usually proving yourselftrying to show that you're not
scarcity.
There's not enough money in theworld and I have found through
my self-worth and work is thatmoney really only abundance?
(19:03):
Because you can get money andabundance and you know abundance
doesn't only include money,right, but if you honestly honor
yourself and live the lifethat's aligned with you, it
always just seems to come.
Yeah, you know, you don't haveto work, so hard for it exactly.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
You know you could work a lot of hours and not feel
like you're working hard,because sometimes you want to
work a lot of hours, so you knowto do different things, but it
doesn't mean you're going tobring more money in it's.
It's like understanding.
You know, like I thought peoplewere hoity-toity, that person
thinks they're better thansomebody like all those kinds of
things.
So clearing that kind of stuffand knowing when it shows up.
(19:43):
But really, if you're doingyour work and I'm also playing
with my calendar, with this,which means my calendar is based
on you know who's on myschedule, how many clients I
have and stuff like that, so Ihaven't played with my calendar
now spiritually I'll see somepeople back to back and I go oh,
that doesn't, that doesn't seemto work.
That energy and somehow andthis has been like just the past
(20:04):
month and so somehow somebodymoves and goes to another day
and it works and I just goRhonda, hands off your calendar,
yeah, hands off, let the flowhappen.
And so it's been really magicalgoing into that.
That is where money getsintroduced, and I was just
interviewing somebody a couplehours ago and when you're with
(20:25):
people that need help, you knowhow to have that conversation.
It's you're not a vulture,you're not trying to make money
off of somebody.
I have my show.
It helps me bring in leads, butI don't think of them as leads.
I'm like I want to know thehuman condition, I want to
experience something withsomebody.
But if I find that, hey, youhave like five things you're
talking about, how can we bringthat together?
(20:46):
I can help you.
And the funny thing is thisperson I interviewed a couple
hours ago we have anotherappointment on the calendar and
we don't know why it's there.
We go well, why is the 21st onthere?
And I said so, do you want touse that?
We can connect because wealready started to talk about it
.
And I go dang, that calendar iscool.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Yeah, yeah, I always.
I always schedule personal time.
Like there are Tuesdays I don'ttalk to anybody, right, like
Tuesdays are my day, especiallybecause I'm a mom, and on the
weekends are my children's time,like you know, basketball games
, water polo, all of thosedifferent things that you don't
get any personal time.
So I really feel like it'simportant for us, whatever day
(21:27):
works for you, or if it's just ayou know certain hour of the
day, to take time to re-energizeand to heal.
And if you don't do that, thenyou're just running, you're
running on no energy, right?
So you're actually going intoenergy depletion, going into the
negative.
There's a speaker who talksabout that.
But if you're in the negativeon your energy, you're never
going to be your best self.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Oh, my gosh, barbie.
Can we talk about that?
I know we're getting close tothe end here, but you know I'm I
feel like we're speaking aboutalignment.
If I'm depleted and this iswhat I've been discovering and I
want to partner with you onthis thing is alignment.
(22:08):
I have so much energy,everything flows.
I can be doing 10-hour days,but it's like I get more and
more energy as the day goes,because the alignment of what
I'm doing, I go okay, that was agood day.
Why, why did I have that energythat day?
And I think of it that way.
So if I feel depleted, I goback to okay, what's happening.
(22:28):
Where's there not alignment?
And I look in health too and Igo okay, so you have an asset
reflex.
Let's talk about that.
Where's that?
Do you know what I mean?
I kind of like map things outon, not how many hours I am
working or somebody is workingand why they're exhausted.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
It gets more into alignment to me and I think,
like it's I don't know about you, but there will be people that
I dread, right.
So like I'm like, oh, Ischeduled a lunch and then like
I shouldn't have scheduled alunch with that person because I
really don't enjoy our timetogether and so I've been
eliminating those.
If I look at the calendar andyou're on my calendar and I'm
(23:05):
dreading hanging out with you ordreading talking to you or even
dreading coaching you, right, Ihave to take you out of my
energy because you are suckingmy energy away and there's only
you know I need to protect myspace and if I'm dreading you,
there's obviously not analignment.
It means other people might bealigned with you, but maybe I'm
not, and that's okay.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Yeah, yeah, I think of frequency.
You know we were talking aboutall this spiritual stuff and
when you start pulling peopleaway, you know it's just kind of
like you just end up meetingpeople like Barbie.
I thought that we're supposedto be together and I get curious
because then that means I'm inthe right alignment If I keep
working on my heart, I keepdoing my morning work, I just
(23:51):
hands off.
Let's trust in the divine thateverything is good, and that
means Barbara needs to be in mylife for this interview, or
there might be something in thefuture, and I don't have to make
it up, it's just.
Let's just keep being curious,yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
I'm going to be able to block you, People that block
you.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
They really mess you up.
You know what I was like.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Yeah, and you can feel it.
You can feel it draining youright?
Same thing with activities.
Like if you're puttingactivities on your calendar and
you're dreading them, either youneed to look at like why am I
dreading them or is theresomething that's not aligned
with me?
But I am going to be on yourpodcast, so can you tell us a
little bit about your podcast sothat it can kind of introduce
people to your podcast what youtalk about, and then they can
(24:31):
check out your podcast?
Barbie.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
I thought I was going to act like a seven year old
and do this.
Yay, yay, I get that out.
Okay, so mine is called freshtalks global vision.
I've been doing this kind ofstuff for about eight years.
I used to travel with peopleand have you know, uh,
videographers and do all thesethings, and so I love playing.
As you see, the way I'm dressedI love.
(24:56):
Dressing like this just makesme feel so fun and just playful,
and that's kind of what theshow is about.
It's a way to say hey, you canbe whoever you want.
I call it hashtag speaker,locking arms that you're going
to be on the show.
We get to lock arms and expresswhat you are doing with your
clients and what you're doingeven within your own camp
(25:18):
yourself, because how, if yousaw people do that in a
trajectory, how could thatchange the human experience?
And I like to talk about thislike that, that vision, because
what we're doing here, if wetake a step back, as I think
about this show, we're reallybringing in mindset,
transformation, entertainment,and that's what I want.
(25:38):
I want you to come and play andjust be yourself and experience
what you want to experience,and I will be there just guiding
and listening and making surethat we get into like locking
arms.
And my thing is about stoppingthe blaming and shaming, which
means allow yourself to beyourself.
Allow and this is another thingI had to learn to stop having
(25:58):
control over somebody.
Having a husband for 27 yearsthat he would say something I'd
be like you know, and I just getinto all these things.
I go, can't wait.
That is control.
It's me being irritated no,that's not irritation, even
though people call it that.
And so the show is about, if wekeep playing all in alignment,
(26:19):
that we're going to find eventhe closest people we have to us
that we're going to find eventhe closest people we have to us
, that we're going to be able tobe all as one so we can make a
bigger trajectory out there.
That's really what the show isabout, did I?
It sounds kind of grayish andplayish, but no, I love it.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
And the blaming and the shaming all that does is
keep you stuck right.
It just keeps you stuck, likeblaming other people.
Look, everybody has theirexperiences.
They do what they do for areason, whether it's survival,
self-protection, whatever thecase but you are ultimately in
charge of your own life, right?
I mean, obviously you want totrust in something that's a
(26:54):
higher power, in my opinion, butyou're in charge of your life.
So to blame other people or toshame yourself for decisions
that you made in the past whenyou didn't know better Maya
Angelou when we know better, wedo better right?
Love her, and so I think thatthat's such an important topic
and I look forward to peoplebeing able to go to your
podcasts and listen to yourprevious people, and obviously
(27:16):
would love them to listen to me,but I am sure that you have a
vast history of amazingconversations.
Can you tell us how people canget ahold of you or if they're
more interested in what you do?
Do you have a website?
Do you have a YouTube channel?
Speaker 2 (27:30):
I do have all of that .
You could go to my RhondaLiebig, oh, my tree.
So you can go to my tree andfind different things.
So it's my name, ronda liebigl-i-e-b-i-g-l-c-e there dot com
forward slash tree.
Okay, and on there you can findout about my fun little ronda
(27:51):
lumoxi show, which is free, butjust monday kicking it off for
the week to the show, to freeevents, I have to those kinds of
things, and you can just kindof check out what you want to
come and play with me with yesLove that and I'm going to
include.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
I checked out your Instagram and your Tik TOK.
You have like over 10,000people.
I'm like how the heck did youdo?
Speaker 2 (28:12):
that it's just it's constant playing and like
literally locking arms withpeople in and, and social media
is about friendships and youknow, like you're just playing
in your communities to make sure, like community meaning.
I follow a few people and Imake sure that I'm talking with
them because I know their lovebugs and they're in alignment.
So that's what it's about.
(28:33):
It's not but comparison, allthose kinds of things that can
kind of be negative.
People are afraid to promoteand do those things.
But yeah, that's.
I think that's how we keepgrowing.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
I love that you love love.
Oh, like silly thing to say,but really like I love that you
love love.
Love is it's everythingSelf-love, love for every you
know, understanding, compassion,empathy, love.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
When I started making that change in the love area my
brain because of being quietand learning about myself and
how this was like a naturalthing, but it was just kind of
covered up that I heard my brainsay you are lying, you're a
fool, nobody really cares aboutlove because in the past that's
why I closed it.
But also to start loving onthings, it looks kind of phony
(29:16):
if you haven't done it, and itcan look phony because it's
uncomfortable at first.
But I just kept feeling, no,this is what makes me feel safe.
That's all I kept thinkingabout.
So how could love make me feelsafe?
Is because intuitively, I couldhear who was in front of me or
what group I was in, and thatwas better than closing off and
trying to get scared in thebrain like everybody's doing
(29:37):
this or looking at me this way.
Scared in the brain likeeverybody's doing this or
looking at me this way, whateverthat is.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
So love is the safest place and it's not taught
enough.
It's not taught in schools,it's not taught in the workplace
.
It's actually looked down uponif you're too you know
lovey-dovey or too connected topeople because they almost I
feel like some people justsimply can't accept it, so
they're almost turned off by itbecause they haven't learned how
to accept love and how toreceive love.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
I don't know if I would be able to receive
somebody like me.
You know, at 29 years old Iwould have been now you crazy
old lady, right Like it doesn'tmatter what your age is.
I got to.
So, phony, but that's what Ilove about it is that you just
keep moving forward.
It's okay.
What people think, yeah, it'sokay, that's all right.
(30:25):
You know, cause I've been thereand I've done other things,
like what you said.
Just forgive yourself.
And the more you forgiveyourself, the more you expand,
because you'll do foolish things.
I mean you're like, oh yeah,that was foolish.
Or you'll be mean for a moment.
You go yeah, that was mean.
No, don't do that again.
Let's have a conversation withso and so, because that was okay
, you know.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Yeah, we're always learning and growing well.
I appreciate having you on theshow.
I will put all of your links inthe description and I look
forward to being on your show aswell.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
I can't wait to play some more Barbie.
Thank you, I appreciate thetime here and being silly but
really being grounded in thestuff we talked about, because I
enjoy play.
But you know, the good stuffbehind all that is that we had a
good conversation.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
I appreciate it, I agree and I think that anybody
that is able to be coached byyou is very well taken care of.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
My heart just is it.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Woo.
All right, rhonda.
Thank you.
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