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Mask or not to mask that is the question or at least the question that I asked. In this episode, my guest host Trish the dish from Gen X voice unpack the difference between what the media is telling us about each state and what's actually happening in the state. I recently did some traveling by car to Florida, the experience of what the media is telling me about Florida and that the governor has lifted the mask mandate and what the businesses are actually doing seem to be two different things if you want to go buy groceries get gas go to a liquor store or any small or large business in between you better still have your mask with you because although the state isn't requiring it the businesses are so with that being said no shirt no shoes no mask no service!

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Unknown (00:14):
It's hard to speak your mind these days. voicing your
opinion is tough and a climatewhere you're either seen as an
ultra conservative or a bleedingheart liberal. But what about
our perspective? What about theGen X perspective?
I'm Tony a latchkey kid from the80s and 90s. Now I'm in my 40s
wearing cargo shorts, collectingStar Wars figures and

(00:35):
reminiscing about the daysbefore my first cell phone. The
jennex perspective is for uscaught somewhere in between
boomers and Millennials are wesee things a bit differently?
I'm tired of staying silent.
It's time to rant, discuss aload and debate. Join Tony and
his guests as they tackle thetopics of Pop Culture, Sports,
religion, and yes, evenpolitics. If life's a Rubik's

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Cube, we've got the experienceto tackle it. Welcome to the Gen
X perspective with TonyRandazzo.
Hey, how's everybody doing? So,we are getting ready now to air

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another episode of the Gen Xperspective. I have my co host
Trish the dish from Gen X voiceon with us this week again.
She's been reoccurring lastcouple episodes. And this time
she graciously accepted myinvitation to be a co host for a
podcast that we did this weekendlive during a podcast convention

(01:44):
called pod v con. So Trish fromjennex voice and myself Dhoni
from jennex. perspective, we dida
we did a live stream, on YouTubeor on Facebook, excuse me,
during the convention, and wespent about 45 minutes and we
just threw out the topic at thebeginning of the show.

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After doing some traveling overthe last couple weeks and going
through a bunch of states bycar, and seeing what's actually
happening in states regardingwearing masks, and staff, or
state mandates and kind of whatstates are what's different
states are doingthe reality versus what the

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media is kind of portraying outthere on the evening news. And
after spending a week here inFlorida.
Where there is no governmentmandates basically, you wouldn't
know that based on thebusinesses. Basically, mom and

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pops up to the big box storesare still requiring you know,
kind of the same deal. No shirt,no shoes, no mask, no service,
and how the media is portrayingthat in a different light. So
without further ado, enjoy the45 minute episode as we we
talked about this topic and acouple others and bring in some

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some folks that were commentingthat we pulled into the show and
answered their questions aswell, based on what we were
chatting about.
This is Tony from the Gen Xperspective. Enjoy the show.
Oh, we're live. Hello.

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Tony. dt. Yeah, what'shappening?
Not much just enjoying a nicebuffer Raj for spring break. How
about youneed to just you know, hey,
cheers, cheers. Cheers. Cheers,huh? So good to be here. Tony,
thank you so much for invitingme. Yeah. Thank you so much for
accepting to come on in banterwith me for about 45 minutes or

(03:59):
so about random crazy Gen X ornon Gen X or stuff.
Yeah, it's always a pleasurewith you, Tony. And you're you
know, you're doing a littlemarathon thing here. You just
did 45 minutes, right? You justdid. Your your podcast that you
did, and I caught part of that.
That was awesome.
Congratulations. Thank you.
That's it. It's just briefly notto talk about everything you

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just talked about. But you know,to be able to go out there and
talkabout the subject matter that
you were talking about sex andtalking about, you know,
everything that you guys chattedabout streaming live on Facebook
for the world. So listen to isGod bless. Yeah. That's all.
Yeah, like I said, I'm veryhappy to be drinking with you

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here now because I earned it.
That's awesome. So we areYeah, we're so I'm hanging out
down in Florida last time.
We talked the snow was blown. Iwas in upstate New York, you
were giving me a hard timebecause it was 85 degrees
outside in your part of theworld. They're out west. And I

(05:09):
guess I just took you up on theoffer and went south for spring
break. For the convention. Ithought, well, hell, if that's
what the theme is, I better justgo south and go where spring
break is. And there's not muchof a spring break happening here
in Florida, at least where I amright now. But the weather. I'm
having my own little springbreak and extra swimming pool

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hanging out having a good time.
Wonderful. Well, and now it'scloudy here in Phoenix, about
5055 degrees, so I'm freezing.
And what's that? What's thetemperature? Like there in
Florida? where you're at? It'sat?
Sunny? Yeah, that'sgood for you. Oh, my gosh, I

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think this is, um, I think it'sstreaming on face. book. I just
want to make sure that we're,we're up and running, right. Is
there an easy way for you totalk quicker than me? Because
I'm new with this. Tom hasn'tyelled at me yet. No, no, he
said, he said, we're where we'vebeen live for a while. So we're
getting my comments up. So we'renot looking. Oh, they're the

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comments are Oh, there's Eric,and back. Nice to see you again,
Eric. Thank you, Tom. Thanks,Tom. So, so briefly, you know,
at one point, I thought, well,maybe we should sit down and
have a conversation and figureout what we're going to talk
about and kind of script it out,for lack of a better term and
have some topics. And then Ithought, well, the last time we

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talked, we went for three hours,with a break in between, I think
and came back and kept talking.
So I thought, well, at leastwe're gonna figure out something
to talk about for 45 minutes. Sothe only idea that I threw out
there to you briefly today, andI know you've been busy. So you
probably haven't put 10 secondsof thought into it. But so this

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really fascinating thinghappened to me
driving to Florida, from upstateNew York, so I went through
Pennsylvania,North and South Carolina,
Georgia, Maryland, DC for half asecond, Virginia as well. And it
was a really fascinating thingthat I kind of geeked out on

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because for the last year, justlike a lot of people, I haven't
traveled more than 30 miles frommy house for any particular
reason other than stay home, goto work. Come back, you know, we
were fortunate to have abusiness that was we didn't
close down during the pandemic,we were farming. We were doing

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stuff last spring. So we havebeen busy. We didn't get
furloughed, we didn't get abreak. We didn't get sent home.
None of that stuff happened tous. And so we've been going hard
for the last year for the mostpart. And I thought, well, let
me take a break. We're gonna godown and stay at a house and
self quarantine while we're downhere, why not, and just hang out

(08:03):
and sit by the pool. What Ifound was super fascinating, was
the drive. So I was I was reallynervous. So coming from New York
and New York has been, you know,first to shut down first to lock
down still have tons and tons ofgovernment

(08:23):
rules and regs and everything isstill really tight in New York,
he's starting to risk governmentstarting to lift a little bit,
but it's still pretty pandemicoriented there. And in Florida,
is really the polar opposite.
From a government perspective,the government said,
we're going to trust you ascitizens to not be total dumb

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asses. And we're openingeverything up. Well, of course,
we all watch the news, the newshas been saying, you know, Texas
and Florida, the end of theworld is happening because this
government has opened everythingup. The really interesting thing
is in Florida, it is thegovernment has said we're open

(09:05):
for business. each municipalityis doing things a little bit
differently. But for the mostpart, it's pretty much lacks.
You want to go into a businessmom and pop, big box, you want
to go into a grocery storeliquor store, gas station, if
you're not wearing a mask,they're not serving you. It's
turned into a no shirt, noshoes, no mask, no service. So

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the businesses down here aredoing what you would expect good
citizens to do. And they'reasking people to wear masks. And
you know what, for the most part99% of the people are without
issue, which is the polaropposite of what the news on
both sides of everybody thatbroadcasts on television is
saying the total opposite ofthat, which is crazy to me. So I

(09:52):
don't know. I just think thatum, it's one more nail in the
coffin that media is they'redriven by money and right
And that is damn near the end ofit. Well, you know, it's funny,
Tony is that Arizona was a partof the Texas Florida debacle of
having so many, you know, casesthat we were at 95% capacity in

(10:16):
our hospitals, you know, Icompletely stopped my outdoor
adventuring. I didn't goanywhere except to, you know,
final businesses my job, whichwas mostly from home, and, and,
and my bubble couple's house.
But we also didn't have amandate, so to speak. And so we
too, were have all this timebars have pretty much been open.

(10:39):
Like, you know, my bubble coupleand I went into, yeah, Eric
knows, Eric knows he's in Mesa,we went to a bar, we sat out on
the patio and basically feltreally uncomfortable, because
when we went inside, no one waswearing a mask. And it was
pretty fill for pretty full.

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They would have little tables inbetween, but you're talking
about a huge bar with all thesepatrons without a mask on. And,
and it was like, well, Iunderstand that Arizona isn't
going to mandate but I'm goingto go ahead and wear a mask and
do my own. So So now my friendjust texted me and said that

(11:27):
we're at 70% we were in adownward trajectory of cases.
But I don't I still don't feellike we're at the end. Right?
Um, you know, I still don'treally feel like going to a bar
even though I miss it. I lovesitting on this one, you know,
patio, outside my bubble coupleand I go to all the time even

(11:51):
before I called them that. Andyou know, there's a part of me,
especially when, when we werechatting and it was 80 degrees
out. That's one of my favoritethings to do in Arizona is sit
outside and drink. Yeah, that myfriends. Yeah, that's I mean,
their patios here are biggerthan their insides. And I have
noticed like this morning, wewere, um, my wife and I went
over to a farmers market. OnSaturday morning, we decided to

(12:13):
go get some fresh seafoods andproduce. And last week, we went
and it was gonna, there was apercentage of rain. So there
wasn't actually a lot of peoplethere. And today, there's a ton
of people there. And, and thiswas today was the first time
that I noticed in kind of apublic gathering, although
outside and not set up in a waythat you could be socially

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distant, really, right. FarmersMarkets aren't really socially
distant. Yeah, they're kind ofhard deals. Yeah, we did notice
was all of the vendors, andanybody, you know, there was
entertainment there and foodthere. And vendors there, they
were all masked and wearingmasks. So anybody that was there
in an official capacity wasmasking, just like any business

(12:55):
owner would be, it seemed like,and then it was like 6040 mix
60% wearing masks. And that wasthe most people I had seen out
in a public setting that weren'twearing masks. We haven't gone
out to any big restaurants yetto see, um, you know, mostly
still take out, you know, mywife and I, you know, a year of

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new habits are hard to break inget comfortable, you know, going
in into an environment likethat. I mean, there was one deli
grocery store that we were in,and it got really busy when we
were in there. And it was,although people were trying to
keep space. So I think thecustomers and people that I've
talked to say, yeah, we don't goto places that they're not

(13:40):
enforcing masks. But yet at thesame time, I haven't yet seen
people hold people at the doorunnecessarily. Busy, right. The
second I'm not seeing that. So Ithink there's kind of a fine
balance there. I'm guessing, butI haven't been yet in a
situation where I've felttotally uncomfortable, where
people are just kind of beingfree for all now. I'm also not

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going to those places, you know,the soudan tourist sea spots
where people are going tocongregate and jam in there year
round, potentially, you know,along the boardwalks and where
the beach stuff is. We've triedto avoid that or not hit it at
peak times, just to kind of begood citizens. And, you know,

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try to stay healthy because theYou're right, we're not over.
It's not over yet. And you gotto kind of still try to be
careful a little bit for themost part. Yeah. I mean, yeah,
common sense. I think it reallyis common sense. And I think
people for the most part whenthey're left to that and given
the right information.
I think that they're going toact accordingly. And you always

(14:41):
get the jackasses. I mean, weknow that. Right. I mean, it's
just is the way it is. Sowhatever from that perspective,
but you know, yeah, so, well, Iwant to speak to what Eric says,
and he's like, if they'redrinking and eating, how would
you wear a mask and I hear you,Eric. And that's
Literally why I don't feelcomfortable in those scenarios?

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I,if I'm if I'm picking up food at
a restaurant, for instance, andeveryone's without a mask,
because they're eating,obviously, I don't feel
comfortable. Sure.
Yeah, yeah, that's your choice,even if you're a 25% capacity or
15% capacity or 100% capacity,if you're not comfortable, it

(15:29):
doesn't matter. There's, ifthey're around, they're not
wearing a mask, I found that weactually thinking about it, my
wife and I haven't been in arestaurant. Since this happened,
we have not sat down and eatenanywhere.
For that reason, a, it was kindof timing. So we kind of where

(15:50):
we live, super touristcommunity, the restaurants kind
of die off, and a lot of themclose, because they're seasonal.
And it's just, it's just kind ofa level of comfort. And we have
a lot of responsibility. I lookat it from a business owners
perspective, as well. I haveemployees, I have a business
that I'm responsible for, alongwith my sister, my wife, my
father, and if one of us kind ofdrops off the rails, you know,

(16:14):
we have all these staff thatrely on us as well. And they can
totally pick up the ball and doeverything and they have, but I
feel a greater responsibility.
Also to them. It's not justabout me and my wife and my
immediate family anymore, mybubble, my bubble, and all these
employees that I'm responsiblefor, and that I care about. And
if I'm down for the count, orGod forbid, something happens.

(16:34):
You gotta, you know, what areyou gonna do? So it's, it's,
yeah, we haven't sat at arestaurant yet. And I've asked,
we've talked about it a coupletimes since we've been here.
It's like, Well, do you want togo out? Well, let's wait till
the weekday. And now we have aweek left of this trip, and we
still haven't gotten out. Sowe'll see what happens this
week. But it's Yeah, it's thatif I can't sit down and be

(16:56):
comfortable, you know, why gotorture yourself like that?
I like Hermes asked a questionabout noticing generational
differences about masks andopinions. I'm gonna say in
Arizona. It's, it's, it's apurple state now. So you really

(17:17):
have just the gamut of I work ona campus on a college campus. So
I see tons of kids without maskson.
I go to the Circle K, and seetons of people our age and older
not wear masks. I see peoplelike the bar I was talking
about. That's a veryit's millennials Gen Xers and

(17:40):
I'm a baby boomers. And and Ithink it's it's, it's, I think
it's important to point out thatlike masks and wearing masks and
taking the pandemic seriously ismore unfortunately, a political

(18:02):
stance, or a personal stancethan it is anything about
generations. What do you think,Tony? Yeah, I would agree. I
what I've noticed is the elderlyseem to be of the greatest
generation. I have been, oh, no,the greatest generation is.

(18:23):
Yeah, that's the parents of theboomers. Yeah, gamers have been
super careful and cautiousbecause of their age. So we're
talking 70 and up ish. And, andI've noticed that they've taken
it very seriously. In somecases, almost to a fault. I
mean, even now, I'm starting tosee news reports and stuff about
these grandma and grandpa's thatare have gotten their shots.

(18:45):
They're good to go to at leastsee their family and they're
even nervous doing that. Andthey need their doctor to
actually say, yeah, it's okay.
We can see your immediatefamily. And then yeah, and then
it's really a mixed bag. My dadin his generation, initially,
especially took it superseriously and, and was really
concerned about it, thankfully.

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But yeah, then we kind of sawthese college kids doing this
crazy stuff where they were, youknow, hey, I'm invincible, that
you know, the same stuff thatevery teenager does. Right?
Nothing's gonna happen to me.
I'm bulletproof. Right. But I'vealso kind of seen that
conversation change I think asit's more information is kind of
gotten out there. But it becamesuch a political issue that it
just turned into a nightmare.

(19:30):
You didn't know what to believe.
And in the CDC, those guys werechanging what they were saying
but that was because they asthey were getting more
information I want to believethat wasn't political on their
end, but you could argue that itwas
their information always seemedpretty methodical and thought
out from ayou know, from a health
perspective, I want to believethat I want to I want to believe

(19:52):
in the greater good I guess anddon't want to go down this
conspiracy theory. Rabbit Holenecessarily. So you know,
I don't know. Yeah. Um, bend,then staking is pretty good with
it. It's funny, um, you know,different parts of the country I
think have have respondeddifferently. Um, compared to you

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know, and Eric says that he seespeople mass for the most part.
mesa isclose to ASU. So I'm glad to
hear that I'm in Glendale, so Idon't see it as much. Well,
that's a lie. I see it in thegrocery stores. For the most
part, people in Circle K, butit's, it's so it seems to be so

(20:38):
4060. Like you were saying, Tonysure that like, I don't, I'm 60%
are wearing masks. I wouldn'tsay that. Um, for the most part,
I guess. 60% is the most partbut it's, but I'm telling you,
when I'm on campus, nobody'swearing a mask unless they're

(21:00):
inside. Wow. And and and Iunderstand that being outside
and we even have someone viewingthat says that, you know, she
has asthma. And that's a really,it's really hard for her or
right to wear a mask. And I Idefinitely understand I I know
that there's plenty of doctors,nurses that have asthma that
have to wear masks, you know, 12to 18 hour shifts. So

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I, I applaud you, Teresa, thatyou're able to get through this
without contracting it. But Ifeel like
it's, it's a Yeah, it'sdefinitely not a generational
thing. It's definitely it's allover. I think it's all over.
Yeah, it's kind of I think a lotof it has to do with where you

(21:46):
live and how the pandemic hasaffected your part of the world.
Right, personally, people inyour circle or your community?
And, and ultimately it does, youknow, it's everybody's personal
deal. And I think that evenfolks that have challenges with
wearing masks, for medicalreasons,

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especially, yeah, it's a rawdeal. I mean, that is just hard.
I, you know, I mean, I'm nospring chicken, you know, I got
about an extra, I don't know,let's shoot out there, but an
extra 100 pounds, like I'mcarrying around on my waist
these days, and go put a facecovering on me and go start
walking around. It's brutal.

(22:31):
and simple.
Like, I always felt why notthose? Sure, I'm guessing that
that would be a greatalternative, although I haven't
worn one. And when I do wearhim, I'm usually grinding or
doing something in the shop, notnecessarily walking around in
the grocery store. I think itdefeats the purpose personally,

(22:53):
you know, just a piece ofplastic in front of you doesn't
kind of, you know, cause thaterror to my on a microscopic
level to come in and get you aso to speak. If you're going to
get got Yeah, um, oh, yeah.
Let me tell you, I was a highschool French teacher for nine

(23:15):
years and a counselor theelementary level for a year, and
all I can do is count myblessings that I am in higher
ed. And that I get to I get towork remotely 50% of the time,
because I can't imaginebeing in a high school setting.

(23:37):
For Yeah, especially with someof the schools I taught it that
were really tough. They didn'teven want to sit in their seat,
let alone wear a mask. Are youkidding me? Yeah, I think
no schools. Yeah, that would bea hard deal. I'm guessing. Yeah,
I am. So I mean, I have myprincipal certificate, I could

(24:00):
have gone that route. I wasplanning on doing the principals
Superintendent route. And all Ican think of every single day
that I don't have to make thesedecisions is oh my god that I
dodged a bullet.
She's gotfive kids. One just graduated
and he's going into themilitary, but she's got four
younger ones one.

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And, and I crazy. I mean, andthey're really good about
putting their masks on. I mean,they're being good little
soldiers, so to speak, andthey're doing what they need to
do. But man, she's got her handsfull because, okay, you're
raising a family. And now yougot to throw this thing in,
where they're home so much morethan you're used to and for sure
they're used to and then totallygot to put a mask on and my

(24:48):
nieces and nephews have beenpretty darn good. And there
hasn't been any issuenecessarily from that. And the
oldest is actually working withus at the farm while he's
waiting to go to boot camp andYeah, it's a hard schools and
school kids and schools what ahard deal. And to try to pick a
side with that whole thing isjust crazy. I've just sat back

(25:09):
and watch that and felt horriblefor both sides, the parents, the
teachers, and then the kids arestuck in the middle as usual,
right? The adults are doingwhatever they're doing and the
kids are stuck in the middlewhere they want to do is go to
school and see their friends.
And that's my, my, my Boomeruncle and I talked about this

(25:30):
all the time that like, our, ouryouthful years, like being our
teens and 20s. Um, we, we wereable to, you know, hang out with
our friends and go to shows andbonfire parties on the on the
beach, right? Like, like you'dlike dinoco did the same. You

(25:51):
know, backpacking trips, campingtrips, you know, just gathering
together and being young andcrazy. We, we've erased this,
this has been erased from them.
Now, I'm not gonna say webecause I feel like it's the
virus it's I don't think thatit's humans. I mean, they're
gonna look back on it as a verystrange time in their, their

(26:12):
high school years. You know, weall have our story even even
like their early to even peoplethat are in their 20s I feel
like are really losing out onthese, like, really special
years of their life of livingand partying and being social.
And but let's look at it thisway. So what history says

(26:33):
anything, right, so let's goback to the Spanish Spanish flu.
So right 1918 Let's do it. Let'sdo it. roaring 20s people having
a good time partying it up bigtime. That's what I'm hoping
for. And I have faith in ourespecially our younger
generation, but you know, us oldpeople now. I think we'll be
able to kick our heels up and,you know, have some Yeah, that's

(26:56):
some good times for sure. Yeah.
on the horizon. I think thateverybody's itching right now.
And it's hard.
Summers coming.
We're right there. We're almostthere. And once we hit it, I
think it's going to just we'regoing to have a good time. We're
going to have a great couple ofyears, I think and people are

(27:17):
really good time and kind ofthrow caution to the wind, but
maybe be a little nicer topeople and a lot more
lighthearted and having fun.
That's where I'm going. I hope Ihope you're right, Tony. Um, you
know, I have to say, um, I Idefinitely feel Yes, we need to
drink more wine. Eric, you'reexactly right. Like,

(27:39):
and, and and if if anything? Oh,yeah, the Okay, I've got to say
this much, like, wearing a maskin public. And sunglasses is
like the closest to being asuperhero that I've ever been
allowed to do in public outsideof Halloween. And, and, and
like, I I'm gonna miss that. I'mnot gonna lie like, especially

(28:04):
as a woman if anyone caught mylive broadcast, right before
this one. You know, being awoman comes with some you know,
uh, you know, why aren't yousmiling more? You're too pretty
to frown. No one's no one'ssaying that to me now. Right?
Especially my staff and folksthat work with me and around me

(28:24):
all the time. They say the samething to me. Why aren't you
smiling? Oh, no. Oh, my God.
never ends. And like that wholemask thing where? Yeah, you
know, show you my expression. Ican raise my eyebrows. That's
totally.
That's the fun part will be whenthey're not wearing the masks
and they're used to wearing amask and they start doing that

(28:46):
and they don't have it anymore.
Forget that's.
Yeah, yeah, it's funny becauseI'm a smiler, too. I actually
funny that I should say thething. Yes, yes, Maria. Yes,
totally.
I really don't ever want to goback to meetings where I have to
wear the full outfit. I lovewearing my pajama bottoms and my

(29:08):
sweat pants.
Man, I love these zoom. You guyshave no idea what I'm wearing
under here. You know, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, no. Party on the top orparty on the bottom but business
on the top right. Like,definitely, like I I'm gonna I'm
gonna miss certain aspects but,but I also feel like you know, I

(29:31):
really hope that even if we dolike balls to the wall party and
have a great time. I do. I dohope that we do take some things
away. Which are, you know, let'sbe more sanitary. Like I've
never seen so many places be soclean. Yeah. And it makes you
wonder like what have we beendoing all this time?

(29:54):
We are a dirty, dirty species. Ithink a lot of that will carry
on especially the youngBecause it's been so crazy. Last
Yeah, I think a lot of us will.
But bad habits, old habits,maybe I think everybody will be
a little better for it for sure.
And I think that's a start ofthe course of just doing, you
know, I mean, a new habit,right. It's how many weeks they

(30:16):
say three weeks. And we've beendoing this for almost a year
now. I think that it's helpingus stick with more people. I'm
hoping. I don't know, though,because look at look at how
quickly we forgot about theSpanish flu. And that lasted two
years. And it's like we were weare I don't know, really,
though, right? I mean, did they?

(30:38):
I guess I didn't do and Ihaven't done enough research on
it post Spanish Flu to know whatthey did or didn't do or how
they fixed that other than herdimmunity and just kind of worked
through it necessarily. Oh,well, Hermes. Hermes is saying
that, um, there was a boomerangfloodgates breaking interesting.

(30:59):
Oh, my gosh, it's true that the1920s happened after the
pandemic of the Spanish flu.
Yeah, that'sright. That's what they did.
They partied. They said,Okay, I know that. I'm, uh, I'm
a little bit drinking. I'm alittle bit you know, how it how
it goes. When I'm on your show,Tony, I get a little loose and a
little fuzzy and I don't processas quickly. Yeah. Oh, my gosh, I

(31:23):
wonder and with all theknowledge that we have today of
like, how dirty humansOh, come on. You're gonna have
more faith. I mean, I've alreadydecided, Tony, I've already
decided how I'm going to dateagain. Okay, cuz I haven't I
haven't dated since all of thisstarted. I'm going to be like,

(31:45):
Digi mask up during the pandemicduring during the pandy. Oh,
what are your thoughts on handsanitizer?
I'm gonna throw this out thereabout hand sanitizer pre
pandemic, they hand sanitizercompanies were freaking out
because I believe it was the CDCwere saying to stop using hand

(32:08):
sanitizer, right because we itwas allowing bacteria to grow
immunity. I remember because Ialways thought hand sanitizer
was a joke. I was never a useractually because of that. And
and funny how now I have atravel one. I have one in my
office at on on campus, everyworkstation for my co workers. I

(32:32):
have one right when I come intothat apartment like, Eric, I
will go I will call you whenwhen when it's time to party.
Let's Let's do it. Let's Let's.
Let's party like it's 2019.
You'll have fun with Eric. He'sa good guy. I've known Eric my
whole life. I think almost.
Yeah, almost my I think that'swhat you were saying last time.

(32:54):
Yeah. 47. So 40 years. So Ithink I met Eric when I was
still a little little youngsterwhen we first moved to
California from New York. And Ilove that he's supporting you.
That's that just is so great.
Right? Like it just goes to showthat generational ties are just
basically like, Yeah, it reallydoesn't matter what generation

(33:18):
you come from if there's aconnection.
There's a connection. Yeah,yeah, he's correct Creme de
Hey, I'm vaccinated.
In next week is when I get myfirst hug. In previous Geritol,

(33:39):
yes.
I love it. I love it. Eric,you're, you're hilarious. But I
haven't I haven't touched ahuman. My dentist touched me on
Thursday. And I can't even tellyou because Tony, you're
married. You don't get this butall of us single folk. Like it

(34:01):
is. You forget that. Like,there's there's this feeling
when another hand. Not it?
touches like this feels like Oh,that's nice. Yeah, whatever. You
can do your own, you know, touchyour head, whatever. But like
when another human does it, youknow, like, he was massaging my
face. Like, Does this hurt? I'mlike, Yeah, like, now we're very

(34:21):
far from the doctor.
And his assistant, like, youknow, touched my head to like,
place my head andI was like, yeah, that's crazy.
Now, you know, Oh, man. So I getmy first hug since June on
Thursday.

(34:43):
And so if that means that I'mmore attractive now in the
dating world.
I I hope this I hope he's outthere then like I hope it's time
The only time that I can saythat I loved when my dentist

(35:05):
touched me.
Oh my gosh, he's not watchingbecause he's mortified right
now. No, I straight up told himI was like, you know, you're the
first person to touch me sinceJune and he was like, okay,
okay.
He was a friendly older judge. Iwas like, I'm looking at, you

(35:28):
know, but they have done somestudies on like, the
psychological sort of, you know,things but, you know, I'm a, I'm
a spiritual person I meditate.
You know, I feel reallygrounded. And what I've done is
because I, and I don't know ifit's my age, my generation, but
I've just, I've just looked atthis as, okay, well, now I need
to, I need to adapt again, Ineed to pivot again. So I found

(35:52):
you. You're one of my favoritefriends, Russ. Russ Russell is
actuallyOh, my God, he's so you're
right. You're right, Russ.
You're right. I did. But, but soyou you guys are to two people
I've connected with, you know,since the pandemic, and I just,

(36:15):
I just shifted my energyvirtually. And it was super
easy. And I feel like I've madethis amazing connection. So even
though I live alone, and Ihaven't had been touched by a
human, except for my dentist onThursday since June, I don't
feel the same anxiety,depression or any sadness at

(36:36):
all. And that's been animportant thing. For a lot of
people. Again, we've been reallyfortunate because our work
family is given an outlet to ahandful of people to have
purpose every day and get out ofthe house and go to work that's
also caused us and to be in thepublic view in the public eye.
Especially last summer, when wewere really busy, and had a lot

(37:00):
of customers around and havingto pivot and do all the stuff we
had to do to be in compliance.
But it allowed the staff tocontinue to keep those
relationships and doing that.
That's also on the flip side ofthat that's what caused me to
start looking at podcasting. Andgetting into this and doing it
as I felt like there was nobodythat I could talk to, I mean,

(37:24):
aside from my family, butnowhere I can really event or to
just kind of get random thoughtsand ideas and information out
there that wasn't work or familyrelated. So it was a great. It
started out of course, as anopportunity for me to sit in a
room essentially by myself andeither reminisce about crazy
stories about crashing my dad'scar in high school over and over

(37:46):
and over again, to whatever thetopic was in. And I did a couple
episodes on politics in it wasreally nervous about it. Because
in business in my business, ourjob is to entertain in and let
people forget about their lives.
And tasting room winery fun,excitement, excitement, award
winning wine kind of deal. We'renot going to I don't want to

(38:10):
talk about politics unless theywant to. And most of the time,
they didn't want to they wantedan escape, escape have fun. And
but I couldn't necessarily, youknow, you're there to serve
them, not necessarily yourselfto vent or to talk. And I'm
having this outlet, where itfelt like there was nobody
listening. And now like lots ofpeople are listening, which is a

(38:32):
new kind of weird thing. And butI still feel kind of the freedom
to be able to say what I need tosay, and not be worried that
it's going to adversely affectkind of my day to day business
and life because I'm not, youknow, not standing on a pulpit
in the middle of my tastingroom, you know, giving my
opinion that nobody really wantsanyway, I can do it in a way

(38:54):
that I can say what I need tosay in a structured way. And
it's been really refreshing toget good feedback and have
really good conversations,people like yourself, to be able
to have these conversations. Wedon't see eye to eye on a lot.
on a on a granular level.
There's differences there butwe're able to talk about it, see

(39:17):
each other's point of views. Andthat is so important to
practice.
Our generation still had that alot where I think
I have have not learned itnecessarily and that's a whole
cancel culture thing and couldbe a whole different
conversation. But we're stillout there the Exeter's are still
promoting that and having thatdiscussion and embracing

(39:39):
diversity. I love that you don'tshare every single viewpoint the
same as me because how boring isthat? Right? But what it does,
it allows me to to really unpackand unfold my ideas and what I
believe based on on on how Ifeel

(40:00):
presented to you. So I think onone of one of our three hour
parts was that, um, you know,you, you, you said something, or
I said something and you werelike, Yeah, but Dylan I was
like, Oh, yeah, I hadn't thoughtabout that. That's the beauty of
being around people who havedifferent viewpoints than you.

(40:22):
And our generation knows that werevel in that because when we
were younger,we maybe I feel like our
generation was a lot moreexploratory. In that we, we we
sought out people who weredifferent than us. We were
exposed to people who aredifferent than us. Whereas in

(40:43):
this in this new, which is kindof ironic, because, you know,
we've met, you know, virtually,but I'm, I'm gonna say
virtually, you, you, you tend tostay in these pockets, where
it's like, I only like theseFacebook posts. I only like
these Instagram posts. But I Iknow that if, like, and what

(41:06):
podcasting has done for me isit's it's open Me too. I
connected with you, becausewe're both the same generation.
Yeah, that's where the,in some random chat room about
right Gen X something and youwere on it, and it said, Are you
looking for people to come on?

(41:29):
And I said, Hey, I'll come on.
That's all, that's all. But butbut back in the olden days,
Tony, you and I would have maybemet in a coffee house because I
saw your backpack? Or, you know,um, you know, maybe a book I was
reading you saw or you know whatI mean? So, so you have these,
like, similar similarityconnections, and then realize,

(41:50):
wow, like, you are a completelydifferent kind of person than
me. And I'm so glad I met youbecause of it. Yeah. Right.
That's great. It's been greatopportunities to,
to be able to meet new anddifferent people in that way.
And, again,us, we're of the opposite sex,
I'm obviously, but I haven'tnoticed.

(42:17):
Would we have ever met otherthan, you know, passing
conversation or a Hello, orwhatever, unless we were in some
sort of structured environment?
And what would that conversationlook like?
You know, I mean, my wife issitting here, you know, is this
appropriate? Is it not? I mean,there's so many other things
that come into play when you'remeeting people in different

(42:39):
environments. And this justallowed it self to be what it
is. And and there wasn't anykind of pre there wasn't there
was nothing there that wouldhave caused it to be anything
other than what it is which isjust kind of like when we were
in our 20s Yeah, right. Whenyou're young you're single and
you're you're more or you're ifyou had your your your wifey

(43:03):
your girlfriend at those times,right? Um,
oh, totally. In Hermes, you'reright, cuz you're you always pop
up when I'm live. And I justlove that, um, and all that you
give to us. Um, but you know, Ifeel like back in the olden days
like we we definitely allcongregated right it would have

(43:30):
been more of a social right andand I would have met you with
your with your wife, girlfriend,and it would never have been
weird. We'd been like, oh,what's up? Like, I don't feel
like Yes, I'm this is not whatI'm drinking. It's my travel of
my Tito's and I just thought I'dlike to let everyone know I'm,

(43:51):
I'm pouring up.
But I feel like that's, that'swhat's so weird about today's
world is I can't I couldn't justapproach you and your wife and
be like, Hey, are you guys seemlike you're my age? Let's have a
conversation.
And yeah, I you know, and Iagree, introverts unite. Because

(44:14):
I'm an I'm an ambivert I get toI get to be both sides. Like I i
recharge alone. I love livingalone. I love being alone. I
don't I don't find any issuewith not having dated or being
touched by human and since June.
Because I just went okay, what'snext? Right and I found
connections virtually. And and Ilove it actually, because it's

(44:35):
almost like I said, it's it'salmost echoing a time when we
all could be together. And evenas an introvert you could be in
a crowded room and still make aconnection with someone because
you're at the same rave togetheror you're you're all in the same
pot smoking circle together, butyou just happen to sit next to

(44:57):
each other drum circle.
Like backpacking trip or I don'tknow, do you know what I mean,
though? Like, it's it's reallywell, I you know, although I
think that you're obsessingabout not being touched for a
year a little, little too much.
I'm a little worried about youright now. But, you know,

(45:18):
I just want you to know, you'regonna have to take that deadbolt
off atsome point, I will hold your
hand, I promise we'll all bethere. Thursday, Thursday, I'm
going to jump back on the app.
Phone,we'll put it on. We'll put it on
speaker while I'll be there withyou when you get ready to do it.

(45:39):
I didn't, you know, again,totally different pandemic
experience. I didn't have theluxury and I tried. I tried to
be the one in the business inthe family to pull back and not
be around people at all. And Istill couldn't do it. Because I
had to run the joint and, anddidn't have that. I don't know
if it's a luxury or not. But Iam totally okay with not being

(46:02):
around tons of people all thetime. And I didn't have that
option.
Wow. Yeah. That's sointeresting. It's for us it was,
you know, you can't let as manypeople in the building start
cleaning shit really good.
Spread everybody out. And thankGod, I had a big 60 by 100 foot
tent outside, which is we wouldhave been decimated if we didn't
have that space. But I yeah,totally opposite experience from

(46:24):
that perspective, as we had to.
We had to be there. We had to bein front of people. You know,
but what I love though, is thatyou you echoed what I said,
though, and that is that? Yeah,I was I'm joking about the whole
nut, not touch thing. But thepoint being though, is our
ability as a generation to pivotvery easily.

(46:47):
There's a great and I know we'reshort on time, so I'm going to
make it really fast. But there'sa great meme on Facebook. That's
like the pandemic was like Gen Xhas been working on on being
ready for this our whole lives,right? We we know how to hunker
down, we know how to pivot weknow how to figure out something
else to entertain us. I wouldlove to see studies that show

(47:11):
you know what age group is mostaffected by the pandemic. I
would like to see that Gen X isthe one that came up on top.
Yeah, of course Gen X were thebest.
Mia says her life hasn't changedat all. Yeah
Well yeah, I mean that's alittle bit of a change me if you

(47:33):
don't go anywherenext to that post you see that
right there that's my daughterand she's
she's raising my grandson andshe hasn't she's basically a
stay at home mom and she's beenraising that that youngster and
doing what she needs to do andher life probably hasn't changed
all that much because she is sheis you in that sense. She loves

(47:58):
to she doesn't have any issueswith being home hanging out,
being alone not dealing with abunch of jackasses out there for
sure. So God bless herman Tony it's been so fun doing
this with you as usual I can'teven believe it's already been
45 minutesmy timer so I was trying to be a

(48:19):
good citizen and look at that.
We just hit it. So I'm going towe're gonna have to sign off so
that we don't get in troublefrom the convention police
because they have a schedule andwe need to stay on that
schedule, not mess things up foreverybody else too much and it's
been awesome Trish.

(48:41):
God bless you. Thank you somuch. Same Tony Dan as usual.
And thank you everybody for yourcomments and listening in and
come check me out Gen Xperspective comm or you know Gen
X perspective wherever you getyour podcasts and thank you guys
for everything and God bless andenjoy the rest of the
convention. There's some superawesome

(49:03):
other podcasts coming on andsome breakout sessions on zoom
go on Facebook, check out pod vcalm or con com calm co m m and
n see what they have to offerthe rest of this weekend and
next weekend as well and, andsupport a great cause. Thank you
guys for everything and ThreshI'll catch YOU on the flipside.

(49:26):
Sounds good. Tony have a greattime and Florida peace.
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