March 6, 2021 • 54 mins
In this episode, we tackle the taboo subjects of a mask or no mask. It sucks getting old and getting gray hair at least in my opinion and how the media changes our perception based on what they choose to show us. Basically, Trish and I hang out for another hour perusing topics and subjects sit back enjoy and have a good time.
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Tony Randazzo (00:13):
It's hard to speak your mind these days.
voicing your opinion is toughand a climate where you're
either seen as an ultraconservative or a bleeding heart
liberal. But what about ourperspective? What about the Gen
X perspective? Hi, I'm Tony alatchkey kid from the 80s and
90s. Now I'm in my 40s wearingcargo shorts, collecting Star
Wars figures and reminiscingabout the days before my first
(00:36):
cell phone. The Gen Xperspective is for us cut
somewhere in between boomers andMillennials are we see things a
bit differently? I'm tired ofstaying silent. It's time to
rant, discuss, unload anddebate. Join Tony and his guests
as they tackle the topics of PopCulture, Sports, religion, and
yes, even politics. If life's aRubik's Cube, we've got the
(00:58):
experience to tackle it. Welcometo the Gen X perspective with
Tony Randazzo.
Hey, everybody, welcome tonumber two of my interview with
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Trish the dish from jennexvoice. So in this second part of
our epic, long interview, wetread into some dangerous
territory, starting to talkabout everything from politics
to the BLM movement, and kind ofeverything in between. We end
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the episode talking aboutgetting old and gray hair, in my
case, a gray beard. And Trish asshe proudly wears her gray hair
as she moves through this thingwe call life and everything in
between. We got some commentsduring our live stream from Eric
(02:01):
out in Arizona and some otherfolks and we had a lot of fun.
So enjoy. part two of our sitdown on Gen X perspective. And I
hope you guys enjoy. Thank you.
Unknown (02:15):
So this should be an even more exciting adventure.
Tony Randazzo (02:20):
I just click the live button again, I'm gonna see
what's gonna happen this time.
Unknown (02:23):
You know, this is I was saying this when there was no
you and possibly no audience. Iwas saying how. And I've brought
up Tom Green before and beenlike, you know, he he's done a
lot of he's kind of the thegodfather of web, you know, he
calls it webo vision, right? Andhe's done some things where
(02:46):
you're just kind of sittingthere watching him, you know, to
teeter around with shit and, andit's like, oh, my life. Oh, I'm
alive now. Hey, Eric says hi,Tony. Do you know how to make
that pop up on the screen? Soeveryone else can I folks, I'm
just kind of walking Tonythrough this whole stream yard
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experience. I'm I mean, I'vedone. I've done one more of
these than he has so. So if youhover over his thing, his
comment you can in comments, notprivate chat, but comments.
There should be a button thatshows show and you should be
able to show Eric's
Tony Randazzo (03:29):
Yeah, look at that show.
Unknown (03:31):
Hi. Hi, Tony. We're stoked. You're here.
Hopefully,
Tony Randazzo (03:42):
that is Yeah, that is one of my dad's lifelong
friends. And he comes and seesus almost every year this year.
You didn't come visit. He'sactually in your neck of the
woods somewhere.
Unknown (03:52):
Oh, cool.
Tony Randazzo (03:54):
He's Arizona. Oh, yeah. He's spent his time out
there and beautiful weather andthen comes and visits us usually
when
Unknown (04:03):
he's like the opposite of a Snowbird or maybe that is a
Snowbird I I personally don'teven know what a Snowbird is
anymore. Because I'm just like,you know, I just live in a state
where everyone's a Snowbird.
Tony Randazzo (04:15):
Oh, he's a mesa.
There he is. He just posted?
Unknown (04:18):
Okay, okay, I'm in Glendale. So, mesa is dope. mesa
is dope. Yeah, I love thatplace. Oh, we're live. So so so
Hi, everyone. I'm Trisha dishfrom the genex voice and I'm so
delighted to be here with withwith Tony. we've, we've been
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actually chatting for the lasthour and 48 minutes so it's it's
super, super awesome to to havepart two, which is what we had
planned anyway, didn't we Tony,we were like we're gonna be
hanging out for a couple hourstonight.
Tony Randazzo (04:57):
We're gonna figure out how this thing works.
So that yeah The pod v conconvention in two weeks, right?
Two weeks?
Unknown (05:04):
Yeah, yeah. So excited.
You're gonna be live, you'regonna be live streaming, March
13, at 1pm Mountain StandardTime. So I know that you're an
hour after me. And I'm soexcited. I'm so stoked for you
to be tapping into the vodcast.
World,
Tony Randazzo (05:22):
Tony, because we'll be doing that from I'll be
doing that live from Floridabecause I'm going to go south,
and where it's nice and warmdown by the Florida Keys. And
we'll have some fun doing itthere too. And talking to the
whole world because that's aninternational event. Yes, we
Unknown (05:39):
have people in South Africa we have Israel we have
Canada, we have and in bothparts of Canada, right. Canada
is a huge country. And so we'vegot both parts. Both Vancouver
and and Toronto, so a supercool, super cool grad.
Tony Randazzo (05:58):
That's awesome.
Yeah. And you know, the wholething about Canada cute is an
interesting place. I've spenttime in Canada.
Unknown (06:04):
So as heavy as have I
Tony Randazzo (06:06):
yeah.
Interesting. Language thing theygot going on there. And they
definitely aren't. They justtolerate Americans. So well.
Unknown (06:16):
Well, I tell you what, though, when I was in Moscow,
and spoke French, I was actuallyasked if I was French, and it
was the biggest compliment as anAmerican. I was just like, oh my
god. Thank you. Thank you somuch for not assuming I was
American first. That is, that'sso cool.
Tony Randazzo (06:38):
Yeah, that's gonna be a lot of fun. So we we
have a relationship up herealong the border where, where
people normally in normal times.
Unknown (06:49):
It's hard to hear you Tony.
Tony Randazzo (06:51):
I wonder why crazy cuz I feel like
Unknown (06:54):
we're just figuring stuff out. Eric, can you hear
me? Okay. I'm just curious as tohow the sound is going.
Tony Randazzo (07:02):
I guess my I could turn my headphones down
and maybe my mic way up. I mean,
Unknown (07:08):
what kind of headphones are you rockin Tony, are you
doing the audio? Audio Technicalike me? No,
Tony Randazzo (07:15):
they're sure.
Okay. Okay, early. But they are.
Unknown (07:21):
How's that? Eric? Yes, you are great. Okay, maybe
that's me. Better. It's better.
It's better. Good. Thank you,Eric. We appreciate the
feedback.
Tony Randazzo (07:35):
Yeah, cuz so I have this mic. I switched. I was
using a Rode pod mic and switchto the shore. SM seven B. I
decided to play with that one.
And, and it's a differentexperience. So switch back and
see. See how the other one does.
I haven't plugged it in in awhile. See how it works.
Unknown (07:57):
I've got a switch to watch.
Tony Randazzo (07:58):
This one's a little that's probably a good
choice. It isn't. isn't aworkday? No. Tomorrow, Sunday,
Unknown (08:05):
no. Small Sunday. It's all it's all the same day in the
handy life.
Tony Randazzo (08:10):
That's right.
Unknown (08:12):
But it's a workday for me because I've got to edit.
I've got to edit my next packpodcast that's coming out on
Tuesday. But
Tony Randazzo (08:19):
yeah, I'm gonna be doing a little editing, I
guess myself here, at somepoint. A couple hours worth of a
podcast that we're doing rightnow on the road on the road
caster, we'll see what
Unknown (08:34):
which is, which is fine. You know, you can always
add an outro that's like hey, sowe we stopped and now we're
live.
Tony Randazzo (08:44):
And we'll explain what craziness is going on with
us for sure.
Unknown (08:48):
Yeah, that's the fun part of podcasting. Right is
that you sort of can add theseintros and outros that kind of
explain what's going on. Oh man,Tony, again for Eric and
everyone else has tuned in rightnow on this live feed like I got
it I gotta say again, likekindred spirits of so stoked to
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have met you during thesepandemic times. And and I feel
like you and I have been friendsforever because we're now going
on almost two hours to chattingtogether and and i'm not even
close to being bored. I'm noteven close to be annoying. No, I
I got to go change my laundryout. You know, like, it's not
even like that. It's Yeah, it'sso amazing. And I don't know if
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that's a common thread throughthrough all generations, but I
feel like if you find a Gen X orin the world, it's kind of like,
like a dog seeing another dog.
You're just like, I want to knoweverything about you like how'd
you grew up? What's your storyman?
Tony Randazzo (09:49):
give so much to do with the older we get the
less. Our circle stays so small,you know, you don't write and
you know you're not hanging outand freaking Denny's at two
o'clock. In the morning, we arerunning on journeys, you know,
that doesn't happen anymorebecause we're, you know, adults
with jobs and lives and all thatgood shit.
Unknown (10:08):
Yeah, yeah, it's
Tony Randazzo (10:09):
like, yeah, I think that it's, it's neat to
find people that you have stuffin common with in this whole
podcast, podcast, meeting in, ininteracting with people via the
this whole thing that'shappening is such a fascinating.
I mean, it's a neat thing, andit can be a really good thing.
And it's a great way to be ableto express what people got going
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on what we have going on, youknow, how things can be so
common in two Yeah, crazy,different lives that never
intersected, but could have verywell intersected. And it's Yeah,
yeah, thing to be able to dothat single through this whole
thing.
Unknown (10:48):
I gotta ask you, I asked you, Tony, were you. So So
I know that in, in the in theperiod of time that that I was
going to undergrad? You were inthe wilderness, but I've got to
ask, did you were you on? Sosort of the social platforms,
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for lack of better words inthose days, because we didn't
really have those terms backthen. In the 90s. Were you in
chat rooms were you in Applechat or whatever it was then I
was doing that at one pointwhere
Tony Randazzo (11:26):
but I shied away from it because I sucked at
typing. So again, I never taughttyping, and I was dyslexic. So I
suck at spelling and writing isthat, you know, nowadays, you
don't have to be good atspelling. You just have to be
able to talk and it'll
Unknown (11:42):
or, or people really forgive the autocorrect world
that we live in. Right. So Iknow a lot of Jen Sears who
constantly have these terribletypos. Yeah. And and I and I
forget them because, like,that's right. Well, and I also
forget them because it's like,well, you know, like, we're in a
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hurry, but I fucking time tospellcheck. Oh, excuse me. I'm
live and I'm using my words.
Hopefully, that's okay. Eric, Ihope you're okay with the
swearing. A big part of our chinchin next world.
Tony Randazzo (12:17):
Yeah. Is our language for sure. That's really
crazy. It's funny to kind ofwatch us on two screens. I
should probably not do that asmuch. But
Unknown (12:33):
it's Eric says,
Tony Randazzo (12:37):
Oh, we were so yeah, never learned how to type
in was a sucked at spelling. SoI kind of skirted around it and
didn't partake in the early daysof like, AOL messenger. I had
one friend that was on all thetime. And I was living in San
Francisco for like six months. Iwas I was working up there. And
I was by myself. Like, I had nofamily. No friends with me. I
didn't know anybody there. Andthat's when I kind of partake in
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trying to figure out how to dothat. But people type so damn
fast. It was so intimidatingthat it didn't last for me very
well,
Unknown (13:08):
I get that I get that I had I had a friend. I had a
friend in New York. So so I wasI was keyed in pretty quickly
with the whole social mediaworld. Like, I always talk about
Friendster, which is beforeMySpace which was before
Facebook. And and, and she wasan instant messenger was my link
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to the world when 911 washappening. And I was trapped in
my job at the time, which wasChristian Dior, and it was able
to, you know, on YahooMessenger, tell my friends,
like, Hey, I'm alive.
Everything's good. Like, don'tknow what the fuck is going on
in this world right now. But
Tony Randazzo (13:47):
I'm alive. I was in Montana. When that happened.
I was stuck in a hotel room.
We've just done a hair show, thenight before, whatever it was
that weekend, and I wasscheduled to fly out and fly
home to Oregon. And I was and Igot stuck. Right. There were no
planes going in the air. At thatpoint. I ended up
Unknown (14:06):
the whole country kind of shut down. And I ended up
Tony Randazzo (14:10):
shitbox car from some rental company
Unknown (14:14):
like a geostorm. I don't remember
Tony Randazzo (14:16):
what it was. But I drove straight through from
noxa, Montana all the way toPortland airport where my car
was parked in the Portlandairport and I had this rental
car that I I told the peoplethat I was taking it to Oregon,
they said you can't and I did itanyway. And I dropped it off and
they forgave it. Thank God. Idon't know how much money that
would have cost. Drop it off,and then I hadn't had a cab.
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This cabbie guy took me over tothe long term parking lot. And I
had to basically bribe the guyat the at the lot to let me walk
in there because that wasn'tcommon in the whole airport was
shut down to get my car out andI ended up having to jump this
embankment wall to get to mycar. And then I drove another
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two and a half Ours back overthe hill to bend to get home
that night. And it was Oh, and Iwas in that was the first time
that I became news obsessed.
Like I had NPR or the news on myon the car radio, the whole
drive trying to figure out whatthe hell just happened to our
country and it was such thiscrazy 1820 hours of my life
trying to get back home beforesomething else happened because
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nobody knew what the hell wasgoing on. It was just this whole
crazy.
Unknown (15:27):
Yeah, and I was in the city. Now. I was just trying to
get to my friend and Brooklynfrom Midtown, because I was
working a Christian Dior at thetime. And my whole situation was
from eight in the morning till4pm in the evening, my job Oh,
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Dana says hi, that's that's oneof my friends here in in
Arizona. She's the nurse that Iwas telling you about. That's
that's basically fiance of theguy that I consider my brother.
But yeah, I was I was I was justtrying to contact family I was
trying to I was actually incharge as the receptionist of
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the sort of administrative partof Christian Dior. So I was
working in the same floor as theCFO, the CEO of Christian Dior,
and my task was you know, makesure Bernard potties family is
is is is contacted, so I wasn'teven allowed to call my own
(16:30):
family. So thank God for yahoomessenger because I was able to
message my my uncle inCalifornia, and one of my
friends in Springfield, Illinoisand various other humans to be
like, yeah, I'm okay. I'm okay.
I'm just in Midtown, you know,and Christian Dior. I don't know
if anyone's familiar withMidtown, but the Christian Dior
corporate offices were rightacross the street from the Trump
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Tower. And this we're talkingabout, I want to say 57th Avenue
between Madison and Fifth Avenueor 57th Street. I don't, I don't
know. I'm old now. It's been 20years. But it was it was pretty
wild. Like I I took I took thesubway from Grand Central
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Station which had been bombedthreatened, right, right after I
right before I had jumped on totake take the train to Brooklyn
to be with a good friend of minefrom Flagstaff. And, and it was,
Tony, I don't know how muchyou've spent time in the city.
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But it was like you could hear apenny drop. It was or a needle
drop. I mean, it was so quiet.
And it was so surreal. And thenwhen the when the subway came up
across the river, the HudsonRiver, right. I could finally
see the the Twin Towers actuallysmoldering. Wow. And it was a
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trip it was it was it wassurreal. And the only thing that
that we could think of in thattime was I gotta get I gotta get
with people that I love. Ididn't have any proof that I
lived in the Chinatown apartmentthat I lived in, because I saw
it my Flagstaff ID. And and so Iwas homeless actually for about
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three days. Wow. It was it waswild man. It was it was. And
that's what I was talking about,like Aarthi. I think our
generation is this generationthat's able to, to navigate that
and pivot very quickly, duringthese sort of like crazy
transitions. Yeah,
Tony Randazzo (18:40):
we've dealt with crazy.
Unknown (18:42):
Yeah, we have, we really
Tony Randazzo (18:44):
have. But every generation has, I mean, if you
go back to the boomergeneration, and they have those
pivotal moments, and then you goback further, and then you know,
then you start talking aboutworld wars and really crazy
shit. But we've all we can't gotoo long without screwing
something up on us.
Unknown (19:01):
Right? Well, and I think it speaks to humanity in
general, right? Like, we havethis propensity towards
survival, right, which meansthat we're going to make it so
so even in this, this, thesepandy times that we're in, we
have this ability to sort ofnavigate, like you were saying,
like, you were in this bubbleuntil about November, and then
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it finally hit you in your area.
But but but there's a there's alot of humans who have made it
through this pandemic. I mean,and we we haven't really
celebrated that we haven'treally celebrated how many of us
have not been infected. Wealways we always talk about how
many have been, which isimportant. Don't get me wrong,
but I think it really speaks tothe survival mechanism of
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humanity for good or for bad,right, what we've done to this
planet,
Tony Randazzo (19:54):
I mean, that's all in their conversation. And
it's, you know, and what peoplefocus on. So, you know, the
news, of course, is He's goingto talk about the negative, not
the positive, so they're notgoing to bring up how many
people are, are still thedifference in those numbers, I
don't even know what they are.
And something I'm going to haveto look up later. But it's
what's the percentage of humansthat have been, that have
happened. And I know that it'svery lopsided, that there's a
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lot more people that haven't,that have, but still, it's, um,
you know,
Unknown (20:24):
it doesn't give an excuse to do crazy shit right
now, right?
Tony Randazzo (20:27):
It's got to make money. So they got to always
focus on crazy negative, that'stheir job. So
Unknown (20:31):
but but there is a lot of us, like Dana, like, like me,
like you who have been Ubercareful. And perhaps Eric, who
says 911 was very pivotal forall ages. And I agree, I agree
with that. It is, it is thismoment in time, where where we
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we are, there are plenty ofhumans who are taking this very
seriously, and who do notbelieve it's a conspiracy
theory. And, and, and, and, andI, I've told you my story of
having to work on a universitycampus, you know, and being
exposed to hundreds of Gen Zyears. And just being really
(21:14):
taking sort of these precautionsreally seriously, and being
safe, and, and not beinginfected. Yeah, and
Tony Randazzo (21:22):
I have, I mean, at least in my experience, here,
where we had, you know, we hadthe, the infection rate didn't
really hit us until later in thegame. And people for the most
part, you know, we never saw anybig issues with people not
wearing masks, I mean, you saw alittle bit of it. And that, of
course, is the stuff that alwaysgets kind of intensified. And,
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you know, we had a lot ofcustomers through our stores
this summer. And I'm gonna say,if it my wife, myself, my
sister, and maybe one or twoother employees had one customer
each, that really kind of wentover the top with not wanting to
Let's wear a face mask, wear amask or whatever. So but if you
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add that up, based on the amountof people that we had come in
99.9% of all the customers weregreat. And they were thankful to
be able to be out on some level,and they were wearing masks, and
they were doing what we wereasking them specifically to do
and in the business owners thatI interact with daily, as well
in the community have all hadbasically the same experience.
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So I got to believe that for themost part, most people have no
if you believe it or not, if youif you think the masks help, or
they don't they've gone alongwith what they're being asked to
do. And, you know, there'ssomething to be said for that.
Yeah, yeah. I also think thatAmericans in general, when
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they're gonna be over something,or if they want to call bs on
something, they will, and theydo, and you always have the
outlier. Crazy crazies, but, youknow, it is what it is so
Unknown (23:02):
well, you know, it's interesting, because, um, you
know, and I'm treading on somedangerous levels of of,
Tony Randazzo (23:12):
that's right here. We're live now, the first
hour and a half, we talked aboutall sorts of stuff. And now
we're like, mice look
Unknown (23:18):
at crazy right now.
Right. But But I, I'm sosurprised that there are more
cases of an outbreak that can betraced to certain activities, as
it were, that that that we ashumans have done without masks.
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So for instance, getting gettinggood and getting crazy right
now, I'm about to step on sometoes. That's what we do here.
But January 6, we have not seena study of an outbreak of, of
the pandemic, with with thosefolks that have stormed the
(24:05):
Capitol. And you know, and Ifind that very interesting, and
I and I, and I feel like I don'tknow if that is lack of
information. I know Eric saysOuch. Yeah, I know. I'm going
there. I'm going there brother.
I'm going there. Um, but but I Ifind that very interesting that
(24:29):
there and I can throw outMichigan when a bunch of
maskless gun toting Americansstormed the Michigan Capitol I
know I'm sorry, I glasses deepto this amazing product.
Tony Randazzo (24:49):
But but but I find that very interesting that
we're not hearing any sort of,I'm gonna have to throw out the
opposing question. You know, Allthose New York City protests
that went on earlier in theyear, and when our when our
mayor of New York City, youknow, said that everything is
(25:11):
banned and you're not allowed todo anything but go out and
protest is okay. And none ofthose folks, and a lot of them
weren't wearing masks, there wasnever any studies, there was
never any research done on anyof those mass gatherings. For
the tried and true trumpers andor any other any other mass
gatherings that have happenedduring the pandemic they haven't
(25:32):
really looked into, or therehasn't been enough data for them
to either side?
Unknown (25:38):
I don't know about you, but I'm interested in that. I
want to know, I wouldn't know.
Look at all the BLM proteststhat were happening in the
country. And and for the mostpart, they were messed up. And
as opposed to Trump rallies thatwere maybe not messed up. I
personally. Yeah. BecauseBecause the question asks, you
(25:59):
know, you start wondering if thequestion is more, you know, is
it is it social gatherings? Oris it is it something else? And
I think that we as human beings,um, I don't know if you saw
Eric's latest comment. Um, but Ifeel like these are things that
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we need to we need to dissectand analyze as a society.
Tony Randazzo (26:28):
Got it. And I, you know, and again, it's, you
know, just like talking aboutwatching Fox News in the morning
and watching CNN at night orwhatever. Wow,
Unknown (26:37):
yeah, I don't watch either of those. So I can't even
imagine
Tony Randazzo (26:41):
if you were on Fox during the BLM protests as
an example. Also, they showedwere pictures of them burning
buildings down, right, becausethat did happen. It's violence.
They want to they want toviolence violence in there,
we're showing that but they werealso showing a bunch of people
protesting without masks on butif you went to the CNN same
(27:02):
coverage, same event, you wouldsee a difference. So it's I have
a hard time believing any of itbecause we know that the media,
both sides are just doing it forratings, the jerks,
Unknown (27:12):
which is such a shame, because isn't really about
ratings, we want to know what'shappening. And it just so
happens that we don't know whereelse to go. That's right. So so
you're giving us this sort ofthis meal, okay. And and I'm a
vegan. Okay, so So I go to ameal, right? And and they say,
(27:33):
oh, everyone here is eatingbroccoli, because the vegan is
part of the group that's eatingbroccoli, as opposed to the pork
that's being served. So you'renot seeing the whole picture,
are you I mean, that's reallyway out there. But Right, right,
so So Eric, man, I'm so happyyou're here with us tonight.
(27:55):
Because one of one of theconversations I've had with one
of my Trump supporting familymembers, was that BLM is bad?
Because they're burning stuffdown Trish, and that is good.
And I'm like, that is such aminutia part of actually, what's
(28:15):
what's happening, though,
Tony Randazzo (28:17):
yeah, it oversimplifies the situation,
because it's, um, there's somuch more to it than that,
because it was it. You couldargue both sides of the same,
same argument, you know, was itreally the BLM people burning
stuff down, or were just peoplethat were being, you know, they
(28:38):
were, you know, capitalizing onthe opportunity to do a little
looting and do a little burn andhave a little party in and do
what they were doing. And Ithink that we've seen that on
the other side, as well atdifferent rallies or gatherings
where you always have badactors, and usually the people
that are organizing protests,they're doing it because they're
passionate about it, whereverthey land on the spray doing it.
(29:01):
They're doing it for just causesthey're doing I have to believe
in humanity, that they're thosepeople in that that are
gathering that are bringingtheir kids, for whatever they're
protesting. They're doing thatbecause they're passionate about
that, and they want to protestpeacefully, usually,
Unknown (29:18):
well, they want their voices heard
Tony Randazzo (29:20):
what their voices heard, and then you get some
jackasses come in, and screw itall up. And I think that that's
what happens 99% of the time onboth sides, and they make
everybody look bad. And then itjust gives more ammunition and
more fodder and people justbecome
Unknown (29:36):
and what's a shame is that you lose sight of what the
what is the meaning of theactual protest.
Tony Randazzo (29:43):
Immediately.
Yeah, it's low. You don't knowwhat so?
Unknown (29:46):
Yeah, so So, being a compassionate human that I am. I
want to hear what the Trumpsupporters have to say and I
want to hear what their voicesI'm not as interested in in
knowing What?
Tony Randazzo (30:01):
Well, and you have the, you know, you have the
the fortunate life experiencewhere you've lived in some of
those smaller Midwestcommunities. I mean, you were in
Illinois for a while, and, youknow,
Unknown (30:15):
central Central Illinois.
Tony Randazzo (30:18):
And my, you know, my family and my dad has always
been, I was raised, you know, tounderstand and know, all sides
of everybody. I mean, we werenever isolated. Like, my,
probably my grandfather'sgeneration were you still lived
in Italian neighborhoods inJewish neighborhoods and Irish
neighborhoods, like he's fromGerman, German, my grandfather
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was German, you didn't go out ofthe neighborhood garden? in St.
Louis. Very, very much like, isthe German way to be and, and I
think there's more people likeus, well, that's the whole thing
is we're a snapshot of ourgeneration. And people. I mean,
we want we don't want people tobe mean to each other. I think
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inherently I don't want
Unknown (31:02):
but we want voices to be heard, right? Because that's
the beauty of America. Now and,and I've lived in other
countries. And I've and I'vemoved back to the United States
twice. So I've jumped out of theUnited States twice and have
come back twice. And I remainhere in America. And and and,
and for me, I feel like thebeauty of this country is is the
(31:29):
the right to protest against ourgovernment. It's the right to
share our voices, the freedom ofspeech, but with the freedom of
speech comes consequence. And sowhen you're talking about
burning shit down, and you're,you know, I've got some very,
very, very anarchist friends whoare like, I can't wait to do
(31:50):
this protest, because I'm goingto do some Molotov cocktails,
and I'm like, Whoa, bro. Whatare you doing, man? Because I
believe in the whole Gandhi, youknow, sort of, you know,
peaceful protest, you know,Nelson Mandela way of going
about things like, but butunfortunately, in our political
(32:10):
climate, it is right, you know,boy, who, who's being the
loudest? And who, who's burningshut down the most. And, and
that's so terrible, becauseit's, it's, it's really losing
the message of what either sideis saying,
Tony Randazzo (32:25):
Yeah, there's no message anymore, unfortunately.
But it seems to be on thedecline. And maybe that's
because we've turned the climatedown a little bit. Um,
Unknown (32:37):
I have an answer to this. I have an answer to this.
It's this, the Socratic way of,of debating. So what you do is,
if someone has an answer forevery question, please, I have
family members like this. AndI'm not very good at this I'm
(32:59):
working on this is is is askingquestions. So if they have an
answer to everything, continueto ask questions, right? Because
then it allows them to, to, tostart either parroting what
they've heard, so that you cancontinue to ask more questions.
(33:20):
Or it allows them to take pauseand realize I don't, I don't
actually have an answer to that.
And that's where the real magiccan happen. That's where the
left and the right can actuallycome together. Right? Well,
Tony Randazzo (33:33):
you got to be able to listen to each other,
you got to be able to stoptalking for half a second and
listen to what they're saying.
You may not totally agree withthem. But you you might find
common ground in theresomewhere, you might learn
something about yourself orsomebody else. And that might be
okay, too. You know,
Unknown (33:50):
I have to say, Tony, you know, my my aunt uncle are
boomers and their Trumpsupporters and then and I
respect them. And I know this isdangerous territory to get into.
Because Because I should not besupporting Trump supporters. But
I hear what they say when theytalk to me, you know, and I
(34:12):
think that's a really importantaspect of the dialogue is, is
hearing the parts that thatpeople believe that they are
that they're saying so? So forinstance, the reason why my aunt
uncle appreciated someone likeTrump coming into office was
because it was building theirretirement it was building their
(34:36):
savings building there.
Tony Randazzo (34:38):
Yeah, it sure was. Yeah.
Unknown (34:40):
And and and so what is what is that happening now in
the government? The The funnything that's happening in the
government now is that we havesomeone in office who is is is
hell bent on fixing thepandemic. And I think I think
that we're losing. Excuse me. Ohmy gosh. I'm drunk on your wine.
(35:02):
I will continue to, to say thatthe this coyote moon Mark head
is, is KPN. um and and I haveimported another glass because
I'm like this, this is it. Thisis it. I've, I've, we've been
sitting here for a couple hoursnow. So I've got a, I've got to
reel it back. But I really Ireally think that the the, the
(35:28):
people that are empowered nowhave have decided that the most
important thing is to get peoplevaccinated and get a handle on
the pandemic, and then we can gofrom there. Because that should
be in my opinion, that shouldbe, you know, the most important
thing that we're doing rightnow.
Tony Randazzo (35:48):
And I agree with you on that. I think 100% I
think that if they just get thatdone, if that's all he does, and
the next four years is rightthrough this nightmare, and we
can get beyond it and get somesemblance of normal back for
different people. That'sdifferent things but essentially
not having to wear a mask orworried that you're gonna die
when you leave your house.
Unknown (36:07):
If I can, man, Can I hug my friends? Again?
Tony Randazzo (36:10):
I have no friends again. Can I go see my
grandmother? All those things?
Jesus? Yeah, this administrationjust gets that done and screws
everything else up. countrystill gonna be fine.
Unknown (36:20):
I'm gonna be okay with that.
Tony Randazzo (36:22):
We're gonna be ready to get back and fight for
those other things. So, youknow, and again, it's,
Unknown (36:29):
well, you know, my, my brother said, my brother, my
brother said a reallyinteresting thing. When when
Trump was officially elected, hesaid, you know, Trish, again,
this is very controversial. I'mabout to say this, he said,
because we've we've seen whatthe last four years have
brought. But But at the time, hesaid, you know, really, our
(36:51):
lives aren't gonna be touched.
Right? Like, individually. Lifeis gonna go on as, as normal,
like every presidency that's outthere. And, and, and to be fair,
to be fair. And again, I'm, I'ma white woman, and I recognize
my privilege in saying this, butmy life has not really changed
(37:12):
that drastically, having Trumpin office. But what I've found
is that there is is a lack ofleadership that his
administration gave us, thatthat was daunting to me. And,
and, and, and scared me eveneven very early on his his his
sort of negative rhetoric, andjust this, the whole impeachment
(37:39):
process, that they brought upthe whole
Tony Randazzo (37:43):
Trump thing.
Yeah, it was,
Unknown (37:45):
it was it was very much an awareness of how do words
affect humans? And and, and, andcan you be held responsible for
those words? And I think thatthat is a very important aspect
of the Trump administration thatI think that philosophers and
(38:05):
sociologists will be examiningand historians will be examining
for for decades
Tony Randazzo (38:11):
to come. That'll be interesting to see how
history unravels this wholething. But again, it's just
Trump and his policies ingeneral. And, you know, and I'm,
and I'm going to the opposingargument here a little bit for
fun, is he if you want to tonedown his rhetoric and his what
(38:36):
made Trump Trump is tweeting,storms and his stupid crap that
he would say, art, we wouldn'thave paid it half of any
attention. They would have justbeen a bunch of Republicans in
there doing republican stuff,doing republican policy, and he
was such a ham. Yeah, totally.
He was such a well, he was inthe entertainment industry. God
(39:01):
bless you, he was
Unknown (39:06):
a reality TV star, dude. Yeah.
Tony Randazzo (39:09):
So he if he would have just not done any of that.
We would have had a differentopinion of him. I think there's
still be Trump haters because hewas a Republican, or because he
was Trump. But you know, therewere people that hated both
Bush's there are people thathated ronald reagan for the love
of God. But there were alsopeople that, you know, yeah, I
(39:29):
mean, you know, what was hisnickname? You know, slick
Willie. That was when we weregrowing up. That was kind of
right in our high school dayswas when the whole Monica
Lewinsky thing was going on. Andyou know, the democrats were
ruining the world in office and
Unknown (39:45):
except for Tony, when I lived in France, and I and my
French friends would ask me, whyare you Americans so obsessed
with the sexual activities ofyour leader?
Tony Randazzo (40:00):
I think this probably has something to do
with
Unknown (40:03):
Well, well, what was interesting was was was
unpacking that with them. Yeah.
And, and, and the French werelike, everyone knows that the,
you know, this was in the 90s.
They were like, everyone knowsthat the French Prime Minister
is going to have a lady on theside, like, why are you as
American so obsessed? Which,which is a very interesting sort
(40:27):
of cultural unpacking of things,because you start realizing that
Americans are really, or atleast in the 90s, we're still
really trapped in this sort ofidealistic 90s. Sorry, 1950s.
World of That's right.
Christianity and the church.
Yes. Yes. And marriage and verynot free. Yeah, different
(40:52):
values. I
Tony Randazzo (40:53):
mean, the countries, you know, those are
countries so young, we stillhave a long way to go to make
before we kind of get ouridentity. I mean, if you look
talking about Italians, orFrench, you gotta start talking
in terms of hundreds andhundreds, you know, 200 years is
a drop in the bucket for thoseplaces, and they've had a long
(41:15):
time to figure out what's rightand wrong and important.
Unknown (41:19):
Right. Oh, and I love that you said what's important,
right. So so for us asAmericans, it was important for
us to unpack the infidelity ofour precedent. Well, because
that'll get him because it'snever been done before. Right.
And and, and, and, and I thinkthat's very interesting. And I
think that's a very, and and itgot to the point where I could
(41:43):
see where the French were comingfrom where it was like, Yeah,
why are we fucking worried aboutour?
Tony Randazzo (41:50):
I think, well, it became a big deal, because he
got caught. Just like me,
Unknown (41:54):
well, it became a big deal, because we had never seen
it before. So not so much thathe got, well,
Tony Randazzo (42:01):
it never been revealed, right? They were just
doing things back in the olddays, like, you know, getting
rid of Marilyn Monroe, insteadof coming out the papers that
she was. I mean, we can reallygo down this rabbit hole, we can
pull. Marilyn Monroe becausethey couldn't deal with putting
it in the news. Seriously. Andshe was awesome.
Unknown (42:24):
She was amazing. And, and and what, uh, what Yeah.
Would you really unpack like,hollywood versus word? Politics,
which is what I think and andthis is going to be a
wackadoodle thing to say. But Ithink Trump was the epitome of
(42:47):
Hollywood meets politics inAmerican government.
Tony Randazzo (42:52):
Yeah, he totally was. Yeah,
Unknown (42:54):
yeah. And for good or for bad, right? Because, because
he knew how he knew how to workthat. And it's still working
that God bless us all. I don'tknow how that man at 70 whatever
years old has the energy to evenOh, he works around most people.
I mean, yeah. I mean,
Tony Randazzo (43:14):
he grew up in a different world than then we can
even imagine to. Right. Putyourself in those shoes. I don't
know how you would do that. Butyeah, different. Crazy. We
should pick Why didn't we talkabout this stuff when nobody was
listening to us?
Unknown (43:32):
Ah, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know we. But
when you and I get together, wejust kind of where we go. That's
where we go.
Tony Randazzo (43:44):
Here. Yeah. And I'll tell you what, well, what I
will tell you is it's 930 inupstate New York, and
Unknown (43:55):
we've been at this for a while. A couple hours. I'm
getting hungry. Yeah, I haven'teaten dinner yet
Tony Randazzo (44:00):
either. But oh, so Trish, I do want to cordially
invite you to be my co host atpod v con. Chemistry for sure,
would lend itself to doing that.
And I'd love it.
Unknown (44:15):
I accept, I accept.
Tony Randazzo (44:17):
And we kind of figured out how not to hit the
big red button and closeeverything out.
Unknown (44:24):
I'm so excited. I'm so excited to do this. And then
yeah, and like I've said before,I'm so impressed with your your
knowledge and and just jumpinginto everything. And you know, I
think that is so Gen X that weare not afraid of technology. In
(44:45):
fact, we're almost we're like alike a like a horse and carrot
like we see it and we just wantto kind of go after it and then
every every sort oftechnological advancement that
has come out of in our lifetimeHri two it is just I feel like
(45:07):
Gen X has always been thereready and willing, willing,
let's let's do it. Let's let'sunpack it. Let's be a part of
it. And I think that's whatseparates us. And we're the
first generation of middle agersto become middle aged online.
And I think that's a reallyexciting thing to unpack
Tony Randazzo (45:27):
to share with people. Yeah, I never thought of
it that way.
Unknown (45:30):
Oh, I think about all the time, I don't
Tony Randazzo (45:32):
think about myself as being old. And that's
part of the problem is I didn'tsee
Unknown (45:35):
an old man.
Tony Randazzo (45:38):
Middle Age 40 year olds thinking. They're so
goddamn old. And I'll say this,I don't know if Eric is still
listening. But I remember Ericbecause I've been in my life for
ever, I think. And I rememberwhen I was a kid looking at him
and my dad and his buddies whowere probably my, our age
(45:59):
thinking to him, they're old.
And, and now I'm that age, and,and they're in better shape than
most of them.
Unknown (46:10):
You think so that middle age is such a different,
um, it's such a different thingnow because I and I don't know
if I have student workers thatare just being kind to me, but I
always hear like, Oh, I wouldnever have guessed you're not
old to LA. And I'm just like,
Tony Randazzo (46:27):
I think because they as they're getting older
that it because like us, as wegot older, that line kind of
blurred like old people weren'told anymore. And young people
were really young. And it'sjust, you know, I think we just
you're you're you are as old asyou want to be. I think and if
(46:47):
you want to be a crotchety oldbastard and be grumpy and be
decrepid then go do that. Andyou're going to be that if you
want to stay young and vibrant,and, and be hip as them kids
would say, then do it. Andthat's all that matters. And,
and the nice thing aboutstarting to get middle age, not
(47:09):
older or old, but Middle Ages. Idon't give a shit anymore.
Unknown (47:14):
Oh, isn't that
Tony Randazzo (47:16):
it is so amazing to finally get to a point in my
life where? vanity? You know, Ijust don't? Yes, you always care
a little bit. I can't say that.
I don't
Unknown (47:26):
care a little bit.
Yeah,
Tony Randazzo (47:28):
I'm not totally not bothered by stuff. But I
like give a shit meters so muchslower than it used to be.
Unknown (47:37):
And they'll freak right. Like, why and I don't
know about you. But I don't feellike keeping up. Like I at this
point at 45. I no longer feellike I need to keep up with with
the latest lingo or the latestlatest trends. I pay attention
just because I'm an actor. Andit's always been a big part of
(48:01):
our, you know how we've grownup. But I don't I don't feel
like I'm ashamed. I don't feellike doing plastic surgery. I
don't feel like coloring mygrades. I don't feel I want to
be 45 and I want to embracebeing 45
Tony Randazzo (48:21):
just not to get off the subject. But my wife. I
was just asking her about thisbecause she just did my sister's
here today. And she did itsilver. And I asked us why she
you know, being out of touchslightly and not as up to speed
in the current trends is Ishould be maybe I you know, it's
like what is she trying to justbe older and my wife looked at
(48:43):
me with kind of a stupid look.
Oh, it's like, no, it's youknow, it's a trend now and she
pulls up like 15 pictures on herphone and says, this is you
know, this is what's going onlike, Oh, I caught it. Okay,
Unknown (48:55):
right, like I got carded.
Tony Randazzo (48:57):
Let me get caught up for a second gray. Okay, gray
is not gray anymore. Gray'ssilver, and gray is not gray.
It's trendy. So look at that.
You're trendy. Yeah, it'snatural. And now you're just
being trendy.
Unknown (49:10):
Yeah, it was. Okay, and, and I and I pulled off my
beanie and I was like, does thisdoes this look like I'm okay
like and and we've progressivelygotten more wild.
(49:31):
But anyway,this is the style and I was
like, do you really think thatthis is the style where I would
have this be regular color andthis be gray? Like I don't think
that's the style?
Tony Randazzo (49:46):
Yeah, I don't know. Yeah. I'm not wanting to
talk about hair color.
Unknown (49:54):
And you don't look like you have a single gray hair on
you except for your your flavor.
Tony Randazzo (50:01):
And if I grow my beard and it's white, which bums
me out, because then if I havemy beard, which I usually do at
the beginning of winter, which Idid have, everybody says, Oh,
you color your hair because myhair is jet black, I have a
little bit in the sideburns. Butmy beard is white, white, white
as snow white. It's horrible.
And so I get harassed with thiswhite beard and this black hair.
(50:22):
So it usually doesn't make itall winter before I get harassed
enough that I shave it off, andit just bothers me because then
I do a little thing that bothersme. So color it, I can't bring
myself to coloring my beardbecause that just seems
Unknown (50:42):
Why does it bother you though, like, it's, it's a rite
of passage. I feel like it'shard to get to this point.
Tony Randazzo (50:50):
I think it makes me feel old. And I don't want to
end and living in the NorthCountry and no sunlight, no
vitamin D. And then I have thiswhite beard. And it just, it all
plays together in this. I got togo south. Like if you look on
page from when we were inFlorida last year, or my
Instagram page, I have my beardand it was half gray. And it's
(51:11):
twice as great as those picturesare now actually made it.
Actually we went to Floridaearlier last year. That's why I
still had I would have had it ifwe went a month ago. So yeah,
Unknown (51:21):
I don't know. I feel like embrace the natural man.
Because it's like, for me, Idon't know if you can see how
white these temples are. Whiteset of grays. I'm like, you
know, honestly, it I would haveto I would have to color it
every week. You would? Yeah. Andand and I went on a date once
(51:43):
with a guy that was about 10years younger than me. And I
colored my hair, you know, atthe time. And I was like, I'm
what am I fucking presenting tothis human? Like, I'm not being
authentic? Like, I'm great. I'mfucking great. And I worked
fucking hard for these days.
Like I i've been great since Iwas 23. Actually, and and like a
two to finally have given uplike coloring that and fighting
(52:06):
that has been has been somonumental and so freeing and
like, Yeah, I don't I don't seeanything wrong with it. You
know, I feel like we're beingprogressive. We're being
progressive. Like Dana said,You're being comfortable.
Tony Randazzo (52:26):
And lucky is to America is being progressive
too.
Unknown (52:30):
Yeah, I love it.
Tony Randazzo (52:33):
Alrighty, so I am going to I'm going to sign off
and we will talk obviously,before we obviously before our
convention and stuff, we'llwe'll we'll get together and
make sure we got maybe we won'thave a game plan because it
works so far pretty good withthat one, but but thank you for
(52:55):
going through this whole processwith me with stream yard and
live streaming stuff and allthis fun stuff. Make sure it all
works. And it's been an awesomeevening chatting with you and
we'll talk soon, same
Unknown (53:05):
same. I'm so glad that we've connected in these pandy
times and thank you so much forwhat you're doing. And I'm just
super stoked to connect withyou, brother.
Tony Randazzo (53:17):
Indeed you to have a good one, be safe, and
we'll talk soon. Thanks forlistening to the Gen X
perspective with Tony Randazzo,where we see things a bit
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Hey, everybody, welcome tonumber two of my interview with
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Trish the dish from jennexvoice. So in this second part of
our epic, long interview, wetread into some dangerous
territory, starting to talkabout everything from politics
to the BLM movement, and kind ofeverything in between. We end
(01:40):
the episode talking aboutgetting old and gray hair, in my
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So enjoy. part two of our sitdown on Gen X perspective. And I
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Unknown (02:15):
So this should be an even more exciting adventure.
Tony Randazzo (02:20):
I just click the live button again, I'm gonna see
what's gonna happen this time.
Unknown (02:23):
You know, this is I was saying this when there was no
you and possibly no audience. Iwas saying how. And I've brought
up Tom Green before and beenlike, you know, he he's done a
lot of he's kind of the thegodfather of web, you know, he
calls it webo vision, right? Andhe's done some things where
(02:46):
you're just kind of sittingthere watching him, you know, to
teeter around with shit and, andit's like, oh, my life. Oh, I'm
alive now. Hey, Eric says hi,Tony. Do you know how to make
that pop up on the screen? Soeveryone else can I folks, I'm
just kind of walking Tonythrough this whole stream yard
(03:07):
experience. I'm I mean, I'vedone. I've done one more of
these than he has so. So if youhover over his thing, his
comment you can in comments, notprivate chat, but comments.
There should be a button thatshows show and you should be
able to show Eric's
Tony Randazzo (03:29):
Yeah, look at that show.
Unknown (03:31):
Hi. Hi, Tony. We're stoked. You're here.
Hopefully,
Tony Randazzo (03:42):
that is Yeah, that is one of my dad's lifelong
friends. And he comes and seesus almost every year this year.
You didn't come visit. He'sactually in your neck of the
woods somewhere.
Unknown (03:52):
Oh, cool.
Tony Randazzo (03:54):
He's Arizona. Oh, yeah. He's spent his time out
there and beautiful weather andthen comes and visits us usually
when
Unknown (04:03):
he's like the opposite of a Snowbird or maybe that is a
Snowbird I I personally don'teven know what a Snowbird is
anymore. Because I'm just like,you know, I just live in a state
where everyone's a Snowbird.
Tony Randazzo (04:15):
Oh, he's a mesa.
There he is. He just posted?
Unknown (04:18):
Okay, okay, I'm in Glendale. So, mesa is dope. mesa
is dope. Yeah, I love thatplace. Oh, we're live. So so so
Hi, everyone. I'm Trisha dishfrom the genex voice and I'm so
delighted to be here with withwith Tony. we've, we've been
(04:43):
actually chatting for the lasthour and 48 minutes so it's it's
super, super awesome to to havepart two, which is what we had
planned anyway, didn't we Tony,we were like we're gonna be
hanging out for a couple hourstonight.
Tony Randazzo (04:57):
We're gonna figure out how this thing works.
So that yeah The pod v conconvention in two weeks, right?
Two weeks?
Unknown (05:04):
Yeah, yeah. So excited.
You're gonna be live, you'regonna be live streaming, March
13, at 1pm Mountain StandardTime. So I know that you're an
hour after me. And I'm soexcited. I'm so stoked for you
to be tapping into the vodcast.
World,
Tony Randazzo (05:22):
Tony, because we'll be doing that from I'll be
doing that live from Floridabecause I'm going to go south,
and where it's nice and warmdown by the Florida Keys. And
we'll have some fun doing itthere too. And talking to the
whole world because that's aninternational event. Yes, we
Unknown (05:39):
have people in South Africa we have Israel we have
Canada, we have and in bothparts of Canada, right. Canada
is a huge country. And so we'vegot both parts. Both Vancouver
and and Toronto, so a supercool, super cool grad.
Tony Randazzo (05:58):
That's awesome.
Yeah. And you know, the wholething about Canada cute is an
interesting place. I've spenttime in Canada.
Unknown (06:04):
So as heavy as have I
Tony Randazzo (06:06):
yeah.
Interesting. Language thing theygot going on there. And they
definitely aren't. They justtolerate Americans. So well.
Unknown (06:16):
Well, I tell you what, though, when I was in Moscow,
and spoke French, I was actuallyasked if I was French, and it
was the biggest compliment as anAmerican. I was just like, oh my
god. Thank you. Thank you somuch for not assuming I was
American first. That is, that'sso cool.
Tony Randazzo (06:38):
Yeah, that's gonna be a lot of fun. So we we
have a relationship up herealong the border where, where
people normally in normal times.
Unknown (06:49):
It's hard to hear you Tony.
Tony Randazzo (06:51):
I wonder why crazy cuz I feel like
Unknown (06:54):
we're just figuring stuff out. Eric, can you hear
me? Okay. I'm just curious as tohow the sound is going.
Tony Randazzo (07:02):
I guess my I could turn my headphones down
and maybe my mic way up. I mean,
Unknown (07:08):
what kind of headphones are you rockin Tony, are you
doing the audio? Audio Technicalike me? No,
Tony Randazzo (07:15):
they're sure.
Okay. Okay, early. But they are.
Unknown (07:21):
How's that? Eric? Yes, you are great. Okay, maybe
that's me. Better. It's better.
It's better. Good. Thank you,Eric. We appreciate the
feedback.
Tony Randazzo (07:35):
Yeah, cuz so I have this mic. I switched. I was
using a Rode pod mic and switchto the shore. SM seven B. I
decided to play with that one.
And, and it's a differentexperience. So switch back and
see. See how the other one does.
I haven't plugged it in in awhile. See how it works.
Unknown (07:57):
I've got a switch to watch.
Tony Randazzo (07:58):
This one's a little that's probably a good
choice. It isn't. isn't aworkday? No. Tomorrow, Sunday,
Unknown (08:05):
no. Small Sunday. It's all it's all the same day in the
handy life.
Tony Randazzo (08:10):
That's right.
Unknown (08:12):
But it's a workday for me because I've got to edit.
I've got to edit my next packpodcast that's coming out on
Tuesday. But
Tony Randazzo (08:19):
yeah, I'm gonna be doing a little editing, I
guess myself here, at somepoint. A couple hours worth of a
podcast that we're doing rightnow on the road on the road
caster, we'll see what
Unknown (08:34):
which is, which is fine. You know, you can always
add an outro that's like hey, sowe we stopped and now we're
live.
Tony Randazzo (08:44):
And we'll explain what craziness is going on with
us for sure.
Unknown (08:48):
Yeah, that's the fun part of podcasting. Right is
that you sort of can add theseintros and outros that kind of
explain what's going on. Oh man,Tony, again for Eric and
everyone else has tuned in rightnow on this live feed like I got
it I gotta say again, likekindred spirits of so stoked to
(09:11):
have met you during thesepandemic times. And and I feel
like you and I have been friendsforever because we're now going
on almost two hours to chattingtogether and and i'm not even
close to being bored. I'm noteven close to be annoying. No, I
I got to go change my laundryout. You know, like, it's not
even like that. It's Yeah, it'sso amazing. And I don't know if
(09:32):
that's a common thread throughthrough all generations, but I
feel like if you find a Gen X orin the world, it's kind of like,
like a dog seeing another dog.
You're just like, I want to knoweverything about you like how'd
you grew up? What's your storyman?
Tony Randazzo (09:49):
give so much to do with the older we get the
less. Our circle stays so small,you know, you don't write and
you know you're not hanging outand freaking Denny's at two
o'clock. In the morning, we arerunning on journeys, you know,
that doesn't happen anymorebecause we're, you know, adults
with jobs and lives and all thatgood shit.
Unknown (10:08):
Yeah, yeah, it's
Tony Randazzo (10:09):
like, yeah, I think that it's, it's neat to
find people that you have stuffin common with in this whole
podcast, podcast, meeting in, ininteracting with people via the
this whole thing that'shappening is such a fascinating.
I mean, it's a neat thing, andit can be a really good thing.
And it's a great way to be ableto express what people got going
(10:32):
on what we have going on, youknow, how things can be so
common in two Yeah, crazy,different lives that never
intersected, but could have verywell intersected. And it's Yeah,
yeah, thing to be able to dothat single through this whole
thing.
Unknown (10:48):
I gotta ask you, I asked you, Tony, were you. So So
I know that in, in the in theperiod of time that that I was
going to undergrad? You were inthe wilderness, but I've got to
ask, did you were you on? Sosort of the social platforms,
(11:09):
for lack of better words inthose days, because we didn't
really have those terms backthen. In the 90s. Were you in
chat rooms were you in Applechat or whatever it was then I
was doing that at one pointwhere
Tony Randazzo (11:26):
but I shied away from it because I sucked at
typing. So again, I never taughttyping, and I was dyslexic. So I
suck at spelling and writing isthat, you know, nowadays, you
don't have to be good atspelling. You just have to be
able to talk and it'll
Unknown (11:42):
or, or people really forgive the autocorrect world
that we live in. Right. So Iknow a lot of Jen Sears who
constantly have these terribletypos. Yeah. And and I and I
forget them because, like,that's right. Well, and I also
forget them because it's like,well, you know, like, we're in a
(12:03):
hurry, but I fucking time tospellcheck. Oh, excuse me. I'm
live and I'm using my words.
Hopefully, that's okay. Eric, Ihope you're okay with the
swearing. A big part of our chinchin next world.
Tony Randazzo (12:17):
Yeah. Is our language for sure. That's really
crazy. It's funny to kind ofwatch us on two screens. I
should probably not do that asmuch. But
Unknown (12:33):
it's Eric says,
Tony Randazzo (12:37):
Oh, we were so yeah, never learned how to type
in was a sucked at spelling. SoI kind of skirted around it and
didn't partake in the early daysof like, AOL messenger. I had
one friend that was on all thetime. And I was living in San
Francisco for like six months. Iwas I was working up there. And
I was by myself. Like, I had nofamily. No friends with me. I
didn't know anybody there. Andthat's when I kind of partake in
(13:00):
trying to figure out how to dothat. But people type so damn
fast. It was so intimidatingthat it didn't last for me very
well,
Unknown (13:08):
I get that I get that I had I had a friend. I had a
friend in New York. So so I wasI was keyed in pretty quickly
with the whole social mediaworld. Like, I always talk about
Friendster, which is beforeMySpace which was before
Facebook. And and, and she wasan instant messenger was my link
(13:30):
to the world when 911 washappening. And I was trapped in
my job at the time, which wasChristian Dior, and it was able
to, you know, on YahooMessenger, tell my friends,
like, Hey, I'm alive.
Everything's good. Like, don'tknow what the fuck is going on
in this world right now. But
Tony Randazzo (13:47):
I'm alive. I was in Montana. When that happened.
I was stuck in a hotel room.
We've just done a hair show, thenight before, whatever it was
that weekend, and I wasscheduled to fly out and fly
home to Oregon. And I was and Igot stuck. Right. There were no
planes going in the air. At thatpoint. I ended up
Unknown (14:06):
the whole country kind of shut down. And I ended up
Tony Randazzo (14:10):
shitbox car from some rental company
Unknown (14:14):
like a geostorm. I don't remember
Tony Randazzo (14:16):
what it was. But I drove straight through from
noxa, Montana all the way toPortland airport where my car
was parked in the Portlandairport and I had this rental
car that I I told the peoplethat I was taking it to Oregon,
they said you can't and I did itanyway. And I dropped it off and
they forgave it. Thank God. Idon't know how much money that
would have cost. Drop it off,and then I hadn't had a cab.
(14:38):
This cabbie guy took me over tothe long term parking lot. And I
had to basically bribe the guyat the at the lot to let me walk
in there because that wasn'tcommon in the whole airport was
shut down to get my car out andI ended up having to jump this
embankment wall to get to mycar. And then I drove another
(14:59):
two and a half Ours back overthe hill to bend to get home
that night. And it was Oh, and Iwas in that was the first time
that I became news obsessed.
Like I had NPR or the news on myon the car radio, the whole
drive trying to figure out whatthe hell just happened to our
country and it was such thiscrazy 1820 hours of my life
trying to get back home beforesomething else happened because
(15:22):
nobody knew what the hell wasgoing on. It was just this whole
crazy.
Unknown (15:27):
Yeah, and I was in the city. Now. I was just trying to
get to my friend and Brooklynfrom Midtown, because I was
working a Christian Dior at thetime. And my whole situation was
from eight in the morning till4pm in the evening, my job Oh,
(15:47):
Dana says hi, that's that's oneof my friends here in in
Arizona. She's the nurse that Iwas telling you about. That's
that's basically fiance of theguy that I consider my brother.
But yeah, I was I was I was justtrying to contact family I was
trying to I was actually incharge as the receptionist of
(16:08):
the sort of administrative partof Christian Dior. So I was
working in the same floor as theCFO, the CEO of Christian Dior,
and my task was you know, makesure Bernard potties family is
is is is contacted, so I wasn'teven allowed to call my own
(16:30):
family. So thank God for yahoomessenger because I was able to
message my my uncle inCalifornia, and one of my
friends in Springfield, Illinoisand various other humans to be
like, yeah, I'm okay. I'm okay.
I'm just in Midtown, you know,and Christian Dior. I don't know
if anyone's familiar withMidtown, but the Christian Dior
corporate offices were rightacross the street from the Trump
(16:53):
Tower. And this we're talkingabout, I want to say 57th Avenue
between Madison and Fifth Avenueor 57th Street. I don't, I don't
know. I'm old now. It's been 20years. But it was it was pretty
wild. Like I I took I took thesubway from Grand Central
(17:16):
Station which had been bombedthreatened, right, right after I
right before I had jumped on totake take the train to Brooklyn
to be with a good friend of minefrom Flagstaff. And, and it was,
Tony, I don't know how muchyou've spent time in the city.
(17:37):
But it was like you could hear apenny drop. It was or a needle
drop. I mean, it was so quiet.
And it was so surreal. And thenwhen the when the subway came up
across the river, the HudsonRiver, right. I could finally
see the the Twin Towers actuallysmoldering. Wow. And it was a
(18:03):
trip it was it was it wassurreal. And the only thing that
that we could think of in thattime was I gotta get I gotta get
with people that I love. Ididn't have any proof that I
lived in the Chinatown apartmentthat I lived in, because I saw
it my Flagstaff ID. And and so Iwas homeless actually for about
(18:23):
three days. Wow. It was it waswild man. It was it was. And
that's what I was talking about,like Aarthi. I think our
generation is this generationthat's able to, to navigate that
and pivot very quickly, duringthese sort of like crazy
transitions. Yeah,
Tony Randazzo (18:40):
we've dealt with crazy.
Unknown (18:42):
Yeah, we have, we really
Tony Randazzo (18:44):
have. But every generation has, I mean, if you
go back to the boomergeneration, and they have those
pivotal moments, and then you goback further, and then you know,
then you start talking aboutworld wars and really crazy
shit. But we've all we can't gotoo long without screwing
something up on us.
Unknown (19:01):
Right? Well, and I think it speaks to humanity in
general, right? Like, we havethis propensity towards
survival, right, which meansthat we're going to make it so
so even in this, this, thesepandy times that we're in, we
have this ability to sort ofnavigate, like you were saying,
like, you were in this bubbleuntil about November, and then
(19:25):
it finally hit you in your area.
But but but there's a there's alot of humans who have made it
through this pandemic. I mean,and we we haven't really
celebrated that we haven'treally celebrated how many of us
have not been infected. Wealways we always talk about how
many have been, which isimportant. Don't get me wrong,
but I think it really speaks tothe survival mechanism of
(19:48):
humanity for good or for bad,right, what we've done to this
planet,
Tony Randazzo (19:54):
I mean, that's all in their conversation. And
it's, you know, and what peoplefocus on. So, you know, the
news, of course, is He's goingto talk about the negative, not
the positive, so they're notgoing to bring up how many
people are, are still thedifference in those numbers, I
don't even know what they are.
And something I'm going to haveto look up later. But it's
what's the percentage of humansthat have been, that have
happened. And I know that it'svery lopsided, that there's a
(20:17):
lot more people that haven't,that have, but still, it's, um,
you know,
Unknown (20:24):
it doesn't give an excuse to do crazy shit right
now, right?
Tony Randazzo (20:27):
It's got to make money. So they got to always
focus on crazy negative, that'stheir job. So
Unknown (20:31):
but but there is a lot of us, like Dana, like, like me,
like you who have been Ubercareful. And perhaps Eric, who
says 911 was very pivotal forall ages. And I agree, I agree
with that. It is, it is thismoment in time, where where we
(20:51):
we are, there are plenty ofhumans who are taking this very
seriously, and who do notbelieve it's a conspiracy
theory. And, and, and, and, andI, I've told you my story of
having to work on a universitycampus, you know, and being
exposed to hundreds of Gen Zyears. And just being really
(21:14):
taking sort of these precautionsreally seriously, and being
safe, and, and not beinginfected. Yeah, and
Tony Randazzo (21:22):
I have, I mean, at least in my experience, here,
where we had, you know, we hadthe, the infection rate didn't
really hit us until later in thegame. And people for the most
part, you know, we never saw anybig issues with people not
wearing masks, I mean, you saw alittle bit of it. And that, of
course, is the stuff that alwaysgets kind of intensified. And,
(21:43):
you know, we had a lot ofcustomers through our stores
this summer. And I'm gonna say,if it my wife, myself, my
sister, and maybe one or twoother employees had one customer
each, that really kind of wentover the top with not wanting to
Let's wear a face mask, wear amask or whatever. So but if you
(22:08):
add that up, based on the amountof people that we had come in
99.9% of all the customers weregreat. And they were thankful to
be able to be out on some level,and they were wearing masks, and
they were doing what we wereasking them specifically to do
and in the business owners thatI interact with daily, as well
in the community have all hadbasically the same experience.
(22:30):
So I got to believe that for themost part, most people have no
if you believe it or not, if youif you think the masks help, or
they don't they've gone alongwith what they're being asked to
do. And, you know, there'ssomething to be said for that.
Yeah, yeah. I also think thatAmericans in general, when
(22:51):
they're gonna be over something,or if they want to call bs on
something, they will, and theydo, and you always have the
outlier. Crazy crazies, but, youknow, it is what it is so
Unknown (23:02):
well, you know, it's interesting, because, um, you
know, and I'm treading on somedangerous levels of of,
Tony Randazzo (23:12):
that's right here. We're live now, the first
hour and a half, we talked aboutall sorts of stuff. And now
we're like, mice look
Unknown (23:18):
at crazy right now.
Right. But But I, I'm sosurprised that there are more
cases of an outbreak that can betraced to certain activities, as
it were, that that that we ashumans have done without masks.
(23:38):
So for instance, getting gettinggood and getting crazy right
now, I'm about to step on sometoes. That's what we do here.
But January 6, we have not seena study of an outbreak of, of
the pandemic, with with thosefolks that have stormed the
(24:05):
Capitol. And you know, and Ifind that very interesting, and
I and I, and I feel like I don'tknow if that is lack of
information. I know Eric saysOuch. Yeah, I know. I'm going
there. I'm going there brother.
I'm going there. Um, but but I Ifind that very interesting that
(24:29):
there and I can throw outMichigan when a bunch of
maskless gun toting Americansstormed the Michigan Capitol I
know I'm sorry, I glasses deepto this amazing product.
Tony Randazzo (24:49):
But but but I find that very interesting that
we're not hearing any sort of,I'm gonna have to throw out the
opposing question. You know, Allthose New York City protests
that went on earlier in theyear, and when our when our
mayor of New York City, youknow, said that everything is
(25:11):
banned and you're not allowed todo anything but go out and
protest is okay. And none ofthose folks, and a lot of them
weren't wearing masks, there wasnever any studies, there was
never any research done on anyof those mass gatherings. For
the tried and true trumpers andor any other any other mass
gatherings that have happenedduring the pandemic they haven't
(25:32):
really looked into, or therehasn't been enough data for them
to either side?
Unknown (25:38):
I don't know about you, but I'm interested in that. I
want to know, I wouldn't know.
Look at all the BLM proteststhat were happening in the
country. And and for the mostpart, they were messed up. And
as opposed to Trump rallies thatwere maybe not messed up. I
personally. Yeah. BecauseBecause the question asks, you
(25:59):
know, you start wondering if thequestion is more, you know, is
it is it social gatherings? Oris it is it something else? And
I think that we as human beings,um, I don't know if you saw
Eric's latest comment. Um, but Ifeel like these are things that
(26:20):
we need to we need to dissectand analyze as a society.
Tony Randazzo (26:28):
Got it. And I, you know, and again, it's, you
know, just like talking aboutwatching Fox News in the morning
and watching CNN at night orwhatever. Wow,
Unknown (26:37):
yeah, I don't watch either of those. So I can't even
imagine
Tony Randazzo (26:41):
if you were on Fox during the BLM protests as
an example. Also, they showedwere pictures of them burning
buildings down, right, becausethat did happen. It's violence.
They want to they want toviolence violence in there,
we're showing that but they werealso showing a bunch of people
protesting without masks on butif you went to the CNN same
(27:02):
coverage, same event, you wouldsee a difference. So it's I have
a hard time believing any of itbecause we know that the media,
both sides are just doing it forratings, the jerks,
Unknown (27:12):
which is such a shame, because isn't really about
ratings, we want to know what'shappening. And it just so
happens that we don't know whereelse to go. That's right. So so
you're giving us this sort ofthis meal, okay. And and I'm a
vegan. Okay, so So I go to ameal, right? And and they say,
(27:33):
oh, everyone here is eatingbroccoli, because the vegan is
part of the group that's eatingbroccoli, as opposed to the pork
that's being served. So you'renot seeing the whole picture,
are you I mean, that's reallyway out there. But Right, right,
so So Eric, man, I'm so happyyou're here with us tonight.
(27:55):
Because one of one of theconversations I've had with one
of my Trump supporting familymembers, was that BLM is bad?
Because they're burning stuffdown Trish, and that is good.
And I'm like, that is such aminutia part of actually, what's
(28:15):
what's happening, though,
Tony Randazzo (28:17):
yeah, it oversimplifies the situation,
because it's, um, there's somuch more to it than that,
because it was it. You couldargue both sides of the same,
same argument, you know, was itreally the BLM people burning
stuff down, or were just peoplethat were being, you know, they
(28:38):
were, you know, capitalizing onthe opportunity to do a little
looting and do a little burn andhave a little party in and do
what they were doing. And Ithink that we've seen that on
the other side, as well atdifferent rallies or gatherings
where you always have badactors, and usually the people
that are organizing protests,they're doing it because they're
passionate about it, whereverthey land on the spray doing it.
(29:01):
They're doing it for just causesthey're doing I have to believe
in humanity, that they're thosepeople in that that are
gathering that are bringingtheir kids, for whatever they're
protesting. They're doing thatbecause they're passionate about
that, and they want to protestpeacefully, usually,
Unknown (29:18):
well, they want their voices heard
Tony Randazzo (29:20):
what their voices heard, and then you get some
jackasses come in, and screw itall up. And I think that that's
what happens 99% of the time onboth sides, and they make
everybody look bad. And then itjust gives more ammunition and
more fodder and people justbecome
Unknown (29:36):
and what's a shame is that you lose sight of what the
what is the meaning of theactual protest.
Tony Randazzo (29:43):
Immediately.
Yeah, it's low. You don't knowwhat so?
Unknown (29:46):
Yeah, so So, being a compassionate human that I am. I
want to hear what the Trumpsupporters have to say and I
want to hear what their voicesI'm not as interested in in
knowing What?
Tony Randazzo (30:01):
Well, and you have the, you know, you have the
the fortunate life experiencewhere you've lived in some of
those smaller Midwestcommunities. I mean, you were in
Illinois for a while, and, youknow,
Unknown (30:15):
central Central Illinois.
Tony Randazzo (30:18):
And my, you know, my family and my dad has always
been, I was raised, you know, tounderstand and know, all sides
of everybody. I mean, we werenever isolated. Like, my,
probably my grandfather'sgeneration were you still lived
in Italian neighborhoods inJewish neighborhoods and Irish
neighborhoods, like he's fromGerman, German, my grandfather
(30:39):
was German, you didn't go out ofthe neighborhood garden? in St.
Louis. Very, very much like, isthe German way to be and, and I
think there's more people likeus, well, that's the whole thing
is we're a snapshot of ourgeneration. And people. I mean,
we want we don't want people tobe mean to each other. I think
(31:01):
inherently I don't want
Unknown (31:02):
but we want voices to be heard, right? Because that's
the beauty of America. Now and,and I've lived in other
countries. And I've and I'vemoved back to the United States
twice. So I've jumped out of theUnited States twice and have
come back twice. And I remainhere in America. And and and,
and for me, I feel like thebeauty of this country is is the
(31:29):
the right to protest against ourgovernment. It's the right to
share our voices, the freedom ofspeech, but with the freedom of
speech comes consequence. And sowhen you're talking about
burning shit down, and you're,you know, I've got some very,
very, very anarchist friends whoare like, I can't wait to do
(31:50):
this protest, because I'm goingto do some Molotov cocktails,
and I'm like, Whoa, bro. Whatare you doing, man? Because I
believe in the whole Gandhi, youknow, sort of, you know,
peaceful protest, you know,Nelson Mandela way of going
about things like, but butunfortunately, in our political
(32:10):
climate, it is right, you know,boy, who, who's being the
loudest? And who, who's burningshut down the most. And, and
that's so terrible, becauseit's, it's, it's really losing
the message of what either sideis saying,
Tony Randazzo (32:25):
Yeah, there's no message anymore, unfortunately.
But it seems to be on thedecline. And maybe that's
because we've turned the climatedown a little bit. Um,
Unknown (32:37):
I have an answer to this. I have an answer to this.
It's this, the Socratic way of,of debating. So what you do is,
if someone has an answer forevery question, please, I have
family members like this. AndI'm not very good at this I'm
(32:59):
working on this is is is askingquestions. So if they have an
answer to everything, continueto ask questions, right? Because
then it allows them to, to, tostart either parroting what
they've heard, so that you cancontinue to ask more questions.
(33:20):
Or it allows them to take pauseand realize I don't, I don't
actually have an answer to that.
And that's where the real magiccan happen. That's where the
left and the right can actuallycome together. Right? Well,
Tony Randazzo (33:33):
you got to be able to listen to each other,
you got to be able to stoptalking for half a second and
listen to what they're saying.
You may not totally agree withthem. But you you might find
common ground in theresomewhere, you might learn
something about yourself orsomebody else. And that might be
okay, too. You know,
Unknown (33:50):
I have to say, Tony, you know, my my aunt uncle are
boomers and their Trumpsupporters and then and I
respect them. And I know this isdangerous territory to get into.
Because Because I should not besupporting Trump supporters. But
I hear what they say when theytalk to me, you know, and I
(34:12):
think that's a really importantaspect of the dialogue is, is
hearing the parts that thatpeople believe that they are
that they're saying so? So forinstance, the reason why my aunt
uncle appreciated someone likeTrump coming into office was
because it was building theirretirement it was building their
(34:36):
savings building there.
Tony Randazzo (34:38):
Yeah, it sure was. Yeah.
Unknown (34:40):
And and and so what is what is that happening now in
the government? The The funnything that's happening in the
government now is that we havesomeone in office who is is is
hell bent on fixing thepandemic. And I think I think
that we're losing. Excuse me. Ohmy gosh. I'm drunk on your wine.
(35:02):
I will continue to, to say thatthe this coyote moon Mark head
is, is KPN. um and and I haveimported another glass because
I'm like this, this is it. Thisis it. I've, I've, we've been
sitting here for a couple hoursnow. So I've got a, I've got to
reel it back. But I really Ireally think that the the, the
(35:28):
people that are empowered nowhave have decided that the most
important thing is to get peoplevaccinated and get a handle on
the pandemic, and then we can gofrom there. Because that should
be in my opinion, that shouldbe, you know, the most important
thing that we're doing rightnow.
Tony Randazzo (35:48):
And I agree with you on that. I think 100% I
think that if they just get thatdone, if that's all he does, and
the next four years is rightthrough this nightmare, and we
can get beyond it and get somesemblance of normal back for
different people. That'sdifferent things but essentially
not having to wear a mask orworried that you're gonna die
when you leave your house.
Unknown (36:07):
If I can, man, Can I hug my friends? Again?
Tony Randazzo (36:10):
I have no friends again. Can I go see my
grandmother? All those things?
Jesus? Yeah, this administrationjust gets that done and screws
everything else up. countrystill gonna be fine.
Unknown (36:20):
I'm gonna be okay with that.
Tony Randazzo (36:22):
We're gonna be ready to get back and fight for
those other things. So, youknow, and again, it's,
Unknown (36:29):
well, you know, my, my brother said, my brother, my
brother said a reallyinteresting thing. When when
Trump was officially elected, hesaid, you know, Trish, again,
this is very controversial. I'mabout to say this, he said,
because we've we've seen whatthe last four years have
brought. But But at the time, hesaid, you know, really, our
(36:51):
lives aren't gonna be touched.
Right? Like, individually. Lifeis gonna go on as, as normal,
like every presidency that's outthere. And, and, and to be fair,
to be fair. And again, I'm, I'ma white woman, and I recognize
my privilege in saying this, butmy life has not really changed
(37:12):
that drastically, having Trumpin office. But what I've found
is that there is is a lack ofleadership that his
administration gave us, thatthat was daunting to me. And,
and, and, and scared me eveneven very early on his his his
sort of negative rhetoric, andjust this, the whole impeachment
(37:39):
process, that they brought upthe whole
Tony Randazzo (37:43):
Trump thing.
Yeah, it was,
Unknown (37:45):
it was it was very much an awareness of how do words
affect humans? And and, and, andcan you be held responsible for
those words? And I think thatthat is a very important aspect
of the Trump administration thatI think that philosophers and
(38:05):
sociologists will be examiningand historians will be examining
for for decades
Tony Randazzo (38:11):
to come. That'll be interesting to see how
history unravels this wholething. But again, it's just
Trump and his policies ingeneral. And, you know, and I'm,
and I'm going to the opposingargument here a little bit for
fun, is he if you want to tonedown his rhetoric and his what
(38:36):
made Trump Trump is tweeting,storms and his stupid crap that
he would say, art, we wouldn'thave paid it half of any
attention. They would have justbeen a bunch of Republicans in
there doing republican stuff,doing republican policy, and he
was such a ham. Yeah, totally.
He was such a well, he was inthe entertainment industry. God
(39:01):
bless you, he was
Unknown (39:06):
a reality TV star, dude. Yeah.
Tony Randazzo (39:09):
So he if he would have just not done any of that.
We would have had a differentopinion of him. I think there's
still be Trump haters because hewas a Republican, or because he
was Trump. But you know, therewere people that hated both
Bush's there are people thathated ronald reagan for the love
of God. But there were alsopeople that, you know, yeah, I
(39:29):
mean, you know, what was hisnickname? You know, slick
Willie. That was when we weregrowing up. That was kind of
right in our high school dayswas when the whole Monica
Lewinsky thing was going on. Andyou know, the democrats were
ruining the world in office and
Unknown (39:45):
except for Tony, when I lived in France, and I and my
French friends would ask me, whyare you Americans so obsessed
with the sexual activities ofyour leader?
Tony Randazzo (40:00):
I think this probably has something to do
with
Unknown (40:03):
Well, well, what was interesting was was was
unpacking that with them. Yeah.
And, and, and the French werelike, everyone knows that the,
you know, this was in the 90s.
They were like, everyone knowsthat the French Prime Minister
is going to have a lady on theside, like, why are you as
American so obsessed? Which,which is a very interesting sort
(40:27):
of cultural unpacking of things,because you start realizing that
Americans are really, or atleast in the 90s, we're still
really trapped in this sort ofidealistic 90s. Sorry, 1950s.
World of That's right.
Christianity and the church.
Yes. Yes. And marriage and verynot free. Yeah, different
(40:52):
values. I
Tony Randazzo (40:53):
mean, the countries, you know, those are
countries so young, we stillhave a long way to go to make
before we kind of get ouridentity. I mean, if you look
talking about Italians, orFrench, you gotta start talking
in terms of hundreds andhundreds, you know, 200 years is
a drop in the bucket for thoseplaces, and they've had a long
(41:15):
time to figure out what's rightand wrong and important.
Unknown (41:19):
Right. Oh, and I love that you said what's important,
right. So so for us asAmericans, it was important for
us to unpack the infidelity ofour precedent. Well, because
that'll get him because it'snever been done before. Right.
And and, and, and, and I thinkthat's very interesting. And I
think that's a very, and and itgot to the point where I could
(41:43):
see where the French were comingfrom where it was like, Yeah,
why are we fucking worried aboutour?
Tony Randazzo (41:50):
I think, well, it became a big deal, because he
got caught. Just like me,
Unknown (41:54):
well, it became a big deal, because we had never seen
it before. So not so much thathe got, well,
Tony Randazzo (42:01):
it never been revealed, right? They were just
doing things back in the olddays, like, you know, getting
rid of Marilyn Monroe, insteadof coming out the papers that
she was. I mean, we can reallygo down this rabbit hole, we can
pull. Marilyn Monroe becausethey couldn't deal with putting
it in the news. Seriously. Andshe was awesome.
Unknown (42:24):
She was amazing. And, and and what, uh, what Yeah.
Would you really unpack like,hollywood versus word? Politics,
which is what I think and andthis is going to be a
wackadoodle thing to say. But Ithink Trump was the epitome of
(42:47):
Hollywood meets politics inAmerican government.
Tony Randazzo (42:52):
Yeah, he totally was. Yeah,
Unknown (42:54):
yeah. And for good or for bad, right? Because, because
he knew how he knew how to workthat. And it's still working
that God bless us all. I don'tknow how that man at 70 whatever
years old has the energy to evenOh, he works around most people.
I mean, yeah. I mean,
Tony Randazzo (43:14):
he grew up in a different world than then we can
even imagine to. Right. Putyourself in those shoes. I don't
know how you would do that. Butyeah, different. Crazy. We
should pick Why didn't we talkabout this stuff when nobody was
listening to us?
Unknown (43:32):
Ah, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know we. But
when you and I get together, wejust kind of where we go. That's
where we go.
Tony Randazzo (43:44):
Here. Yeah. And I'll tell you what, well, what I
will tell you is it's 930 inupstate New York, and
Unknown (43:55):
we've been at this for a while. A couple hours. I'm
getting hungry. Yeah, I haven'teaten dinner yet
Tony Randazzo (44:00):
either. But oh, so Trish, I do want to cordially
invite you to be my co host atpod v con. Chemistry for sure,
would lend itself to doing that.
And I'd love it.
Unknown (44:15):
I accept, I accept.
Tony Randazzo (44:17):
And we kind of figured out how not to hit the
big red button and closeeverything out.
Unknown (44:24):
I'm so excited. I'm so excited to do this. And then
yeah, and like I've said before,I'm so impressed with your your
knowledge and and just jumpinginto everything. And you know, I
think that is so Gen X that weare not afraid of technology. In
(44:45):
fact, we're almost we're like alike a like a horse and carrot
like we see it and we just wantto kind of go after it and then
every every sort oftechnological advancement that
has come out of in our lifetimeHri two it is just I feel like
(45:07):
Gen X has always been thereready and willing, willing,
let's let's do it. Let's let'sunpack it. Let's be a part of
it. And I think that's whatseparates us. And we're the
first generation of middle agersto become middle aged online.
And I think that's a reallyexciting thing to unpack
Tony Randazzo (45:27):
to share with people. Yeah, I never thought of
it that way.
Unknown (45:30):
Oh, I think about all the time, I don't
Tony Randazzo (45:32):
think about myself as being old. And that's
part of the problem is I didn'tsee
Unknown (45:35):
an old man.
Tony Randazzo (45:38):
Middle Age 40 year olds thinking. They're so
goddamn old. And I'll say this,I don't know if Eric is still
listening. But I remember Ericbecause I've been in my life for
ever, I think. And I rememberwhen I was a kid looking at him
and my dad and his buddies whowere probably my, our age
(45:59):
thinking to him, they're old.
And, and now I'm that age, and,and they're in better shape than
most of them.
Unknown (46:10):
You think so that middle age is such a different,
um, it's such a different thingnow because I and I don't know
if I have student workers thatare just being kind to me, but I
always hear like, Oh, I wouldnever have guessed you're not
old to LA. And I'm just like,
Tony Randazzo (46:27):
I think because they as they're getting older
that it because like us, as wegot older, that line kind of
blurred like old people weren'told anymore. And young people
were really young. And it'sjust, you know, I think we just
you're you're you are as old asyou want to be. I think and if
(46:47):
you want to be a crotchety oldbastard and be grumpy and be
decrepid then go do that. Andyou're going to be that if you
want to stay young and vibrant,and, and be hip as them kids
would say, then do it. Andthat's all that matters. And,
and the nice thing aboutstarting to get middle age, not
(47:09):
older or old, but Middle Ages. Idon't give a shit anymore.
Unknown (47:14):
Oh, isn't that
Tony Randazzo (47:16):
it is so amazing to finally get to a point in my
life where? vanity? You know, Ijust don't? Yes, you always care
a little bit. I can't say that.
I don't
Unknown (47:26):
care a little bit.
Yeah,
Tony Randazzo (47:28):
I'm not totally not bothered by stuff. But I
like give a shit meters so muchslower than it used to be.
Unknown (47:37):
And they'll freak right. Like, why and I don't
know about you. But I don't feellike keeping up. Like I at this
point at 45. I no longer feellike I need to keep up with with
the latest lingo or the latestlatest trends. I pay attention
just because I'm an actor. Andit's always been a big part of
(48:01):
our, you know how we've grownup. But I don't I don't feel
like I'm ashamed. I don't feellike doing plastic surgery. I
don't feel like coloring mygrades. I don't feel I want to
be 45 and I want to embracebeing 45
Tony Randazzo (48:21):
just not to get off the subject. But my wife. I
was just asking her about thisbecause she just did my sister's
here today. And she did itsilver. And I asked us why she
you know, being out of touchslightly and not as up to speed
in the current trends is Ishould be maybe I you know, it's
like what is she trying to justbe older and my wife looked at
(48:43):
me with kind of a stupid look.
Oh, it's like, no, it's youknow, it's a trend now and she
pulls up like 15 pictures on herphone and says, this is you
know, this is what's going onlike, Oh, I caught it. Okay,
Unknown (48:55):
right, like I got carded.
Tony Randazzo (48:57):
Let me get caught up for a second gray. Okay, gray
is not gray anymore. Gray'ssilver, and gray is not gray.
It's trendy. So look at that.
You're trendy. Yeah, it'snatural. And now you're just
being trendy.
Unknown (49:10):
Yeah, it was. Okay, and, and I and I pulled off my
beanie and I was like, does thisdoes this look like I'm okay
like and and we've progressivelygotten more wild.
(49:31):
But anyway,this is the style and I was
like, do you really think thatthis is the style where I would
have this be regular color andthis be gray? Like I don't think
that's the style?
Tony Randazzo (49:46):
Yeah, I don't know. Yeah. I'm not wanting to
talk about hair color.
Unknown (49:54):
And you don't look like you have a single gray hair on
you except for your your flavor.
Tony Randazzo (50:01):
And if I grow my beard and it's white, which bums
me out, because then if I havemy beard, which I usually do at
the beginning of winter, which Idid have, everybody says, Oh,
you color your hair because myhair is jet black, I have a
little bit in the sideburns. Butmy beard is white, white, white
as snow white. It's horrible.
And so I get harassed with thiswhite beard and this black hair.
(50:22):
So it usually doesn't make itall winter before I get harassed
enough that I shave it off, andit just bothers me because then
I do a little thing that bothersme. So color it, I can't bring
myself to coloring my beardbecause that just seems
Unknown (50:42):
Why does it bother you though, like, it's, it's a rite
of passage. I feel like it'shard to get to this point.
Tony Randazzo (50:50):
I think it makes me feel old. And I don't want to
end and living in the NorthCountry and no sunlight, no
vitamin D. And then I have thiswhite beard. And it just, it all
plays together in this. I got togo south. Like if you look on
page from when we were inFlorida last year, or my
Instagram page, I have my beardand it was half gray. And it's
(51:11):
twice as great as those picturesare now actually made it.
Actually we went to Floridaearlier last year. That's why I
still had I would have had it ifwe went a month ago. So yeah,
Unknown (51:21):
I don't know. I feel like embrace the natural man.
Because it's like, for me, Idon't know if you can see how
white these temples are. Whiteset of grays. I'm like, you
know, honestly, it I would haveto I would have to color it
every week. You would? Yeah. Andand and I went on a date once
(51:43):
with a guy that was about 10years younger than me. And I
colored my hair, you know, atthe time. And I was like, I'm
what am I fucking presenting tothis human? Like, I'm not being
authentic? Like, I'm great. I'mfucking great. And I worked
fucking hard for these days.
Like I i've been great since Iwas 23. Actually, and and like a
two to finally have given uplike coloring that and fighting
(52:06):
that has been has been somonumental and so freeing and
like, Yeah, I don't I don't seeanything wrong with it. You
know, I feel like we're beingprogressive. We're being
progressive. Like Dana said,You're being comfortable.
Tony Randazzo (52:26):
And lucky is to America is being progressive
too.
Unknown (52:30):
Yeah, I love it.
Tony Randazzo (52:33):
Alrighty, so I am going to I'm going to sign off
and we will talk obviously,before we obviously before our
convention and stuff, we'llwe'll we'll get together and
make sure we got maybe we won'thave a game plan because it
works so far pretty good withthat one, but but thank you for
(52:55):
going through this whole processwith me with stream yard and
live streaming stuff and allthis fun stuff. Make sure it all
works. And it's been an awesomeevening chatting with you and
we'll talk soon, same
Unknown (53:05):
same. I'm so glad that we've connected in these pandy
times and thank you so much forwhat you're doing. And I'm just
super stoked to connect withyou, brother.
Tony Randazzo (53:17):
Indeed you to have a good one, be safe, and
we'll talk soon. Thanks forlistening to the Gen X
perspective with Tony Randazzo,where we see things a bit
differently. Let's get socialscientists on Facebook by
searching Gen X perspectiveTwitter at Gen X underscore
(53:37):
podcast and on Instagram at GenX perspective. You can also find
us online at Gen Xperspective.com. And reach out
to Tony directly at Tony at GenX perspective.com. to maybe you
can talk strategy on how to beatSuper Mario Brothers three.
Don't forget to subscribe to theGen X perspective wherever you
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