Dmitri Alperovitch sits down with Andrei Lankov, one of the west’s foremost experts on North Korea, and Sergey Radchenko, a leading Cold War historian, for a deep dive into North Korea. They discuss the threats posed by North Korea's nuclear program and possibility of a new war, the chances of a Trump-brokered peace deal with Kim Jong Un, and the nature of North Korea’s relationships with China, Russia, and Iran. Andrei also offers rare insights into daily life under the regime, its surveillance state, hackers and IT workers, political succession, and long-term foreign policy ambitions.
00:00 Introduction
01:02 Can Trump Get a Peace Deal Done With North Korea?
15:19 Does Kim Jong Un Need America as an Enemy?
18:36 Chances of a Second Korean War and Nuclear Weapons Use
22:58 China's Frustrations With North Korea
27:17 China's Concerns of Nuclear Proliferation Across Asia
29:49 Nature of Transactional Relationships Between North Korea and China/Russia
35:28 Iran-North Korea Relationship
40:16 Why Do North Korean Soldiers Commit Suicide Rather Than Surrender?
44:52 Life in North Korean GULAGs
47:04 The Intricacies of Societal Surveillance in North Korea
51:21 Technology Use and Intranet Access in North Korea
54:24 North Korean Hackers and IT Workers
01:02:40 Female Empowerment in North Korea
01:15:21 Does North Korea Have the World's Most Effective Foreign Policy?
Dmitri and Sergey's NYT article about the potential for a peace deal with North Korea: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/29/opinion/us-north-korea-china-russia-axis.html
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