May 31, 2024 • 28 mins
Have you ever felt like a misfit on a quest to discover your true identity? Join me, Ron Meyers, and my guest Paul, a man whose life has been radically transformed, as we share tales of redemption and finding purpose through a powerful relationship with Jesus Christ. Our latest podcast episode is a testament to the incredible shifts that can occur when one embraces a daily commitment to God, not just within the walls of a church, but in the conversations and actions of our everyday lives. From my own journey out of substance abuse to Paul's escape from a chaotic past, we unfold the stories that showcase the might of faith in motion.
This episode isn't merely a narrative; it's a celebration of acceptance and a recognition of the unique role each 'Misfit for Jesus' plays in the grand design. We explore the profound impact of small behavioral changes, the importance of a community that nurtures spiritual growth, and the act of repentance in maintaining a vital connection with the divine. It's an extension of hope and an invitation to join a family of believers who find solace in their shared experiences. As we sign off, remember, it's your stories of faith and redemption that continue to fuel our mission, so we eagerly await to hear how God has worked wonders in your life too.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The following program is sponsored by Ron Meyers
Ministries.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
It's time now to get the hell out of your life.
A weekly broadcast with realpeople sharing real struggles
and offering real hope.
Today's show will encourage,inspire and empower you to face
life's challenges with a boldconfidence and renewed hope.
Now let's join our host, ronMeyers.
The Provoder.
Ron Meyers (00:26):
Hello, my friends, it is so good to be with you for
another great show of Get theHell out of your life.
I want to welcome you to myneighborhood Now.
I have a neighborhood that well.
It's a little different thanmost neighborhoods.
It has all kinds of people thatwe call ourselves misfits.
We never fit in.
We march to a different beat ofa drum because we want to find
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out who we are, who Jesus sayswe are, and what he wants us to
do with the life he has given us.
So you're going to hear realstories from real individuals
that offer real hope, andtoday's story is one that you're
really going to enjoy.
Paul opens up about, well, hispast, and all of us Don't?
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We all have a past.
I mean, my past was sex, drugsand rock and roll.
I was a pretty big promoter onthe Gulf Coast, promoting
anything I could make a buck at.
But Jesus changed my direction,just like he does with all my
guests.
So this show, it's all aboutletting you find a new way to
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connect with Jesus.
It's not in church, it's withyour heart, it's with having
daily conversations with Jesus.
Because, friends, what you havewhen you do life with Jesus,
you have power, you have peace,you have purpose and you have
passion.
Well, my guest today has agreat story.
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He has become a very goodfriend of mine and he is on fire
for Jesus.
Paul Perisich (02:08):
So to speak.
Yes, on fire, that's aChristian-ese term, but you know
what?
I'm secure and I'm committed.
The effect that Jesus had on mewhen I said, jesus, I receive
you as my Savior, has never diedout or never changed and I
carry that effect with meeverywhere I go and in
everything I do.
So instead of saying I'm onfire because people get on fire
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and then the next thing you seethey're cold, so to speak.
I was preaching in jail for along time and I walked in a jail
cell one day and they hadn'thad anybody in there a long time
and some people come up to meand said, brother, it is so dry
in here, we haven't had anyonein here to preach in a while.
I said it's fixing the rain andwe had a wonderful time because
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I stay in a position of whatJesus did in me when someone
told me this is the way youreceive him.
And I did that, and the effectthat he had on me was inside and
I knew something changed.
That change has never dwindledor left.
So, yes, I'm on fire.
I guess that would be the wayyou would terminology say, give
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a term to it if you're aChristian, but if you're someone
who just lives a normal life,then I stick with what happened
to me when I was saved.
Ron Meyers (03:24):
Amen.
Now have you been like this allyour life?
Paul Perisich (03:28):
Actually, no, I was raised Catholic and I'm very
, very thankful for my Catholicfoundation.
If anything I was taught it wasto be in love with Jesus, and
they gave me a solid foundation,which was be faithful period.
And so I was raised in church.
I was an altar boy.
I did all those things and then, around the age of 13, I got on
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drugs, I was introduced tosmoking pot and all those
different things, and so Iwasn't.
And in those years of being inthe Catholic Church, I never
heard the salvation message,even though it had to have been
preached week after week orspoken of.
Somehow I missed it.
And so the day that someonecame to my house we're doing
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visitation I had been prayingLord Jesus, send someone to me.
Because I say it like this Iwas a long-haired dope, smoking,
vulgar mouth, cigarette smokinghippie and I had been asking
Jesus, if you're real, then sendsomeone to me to teach me about
you.
And it wasn't.
Three weeks later, someone wasknocking on my door, and when
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they knocked on my door and Iopened it, I lived out in the
country.
I moved out in the woods togrow weed.
I grew, I sold hundreds ofpounds of weed and grew a lot
and other things.
And when they knocked on mydoor and said we're from the
church down the road, I said Godsent you to me, give me just a
minute and I'm going to let youin.
So I went to the other end ofthe house and opened up the
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doors and told my wife lightcigarettes, I'm letting these
people in.
God sent someone to us and theyled us to salvation that night.
And I knew that if God was thatkind and merciful to me even in
my dope head, drug selling self, vulgar mouth self his kindness
and his mercy was to come to meand teach me about himself,
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then I need to do everything Ican to learn as much as I can
about him, and I've never beenout of church since then.
Ron Meyers (05:18):
And the church is obviously in you.
Paul Perisich (05:21):
When I realized I was a member of his body.
Then I realized actually I wentto the other church it was a
Baptist church and I'm sothankful they did.
And I used to always say insidemy heart I wonder how hard it
was for them to say, okay, thisis a night of visitation, who
are going to go see?
And someone said, let's govisit the hippie.
Because I lived out in thewoods, because we grew weed.
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We couldn't do that in the city.
And when they came to thehippies house and the hippie got
saved and all of a sudden thehippies in church and I was in
church from then on and I wouldcome to church stone.
It took the Lord two years toget me off weed.
Actually I asked him Lord, whatis?
It was more like this Dude Lord, what is wrong with this stuff,
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man?
I mean, why can't I get stoned?
This is taste so good.
And the scripture the Lord gaveme was you shall love the Lord,
your God, with all your heart,with all your soul and with all
your strength.
You're loving me with all yourheart, but you're turning your
mind, your will and youremotions and your physical body
to being comforted by smokingweed or drinking beer to get a
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buzz.
And I asked you to love me withall three.
And I said I see it, lord, ifyou'll help me, I will never
touch this stuff again.
Get me free from it.
And I can't tell you what day Iquit smoking pot and I got free
from cigarettes.
It just happened over a, like Isaid, about a two year period.
I slowly dwindled out of mylife because I grew spiritual.
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I used to tell friends I willsit with you next year on New
Year's.
Y'all will all be gettingstoned and I'll sit with you and
I won't take a single toke offyour joint because inside me
something's happening.
You can't see it, but I'mgrowing spiritually.
Right now my spirit isn'tstrong enough to throw off the
things that I trained it to dofor all these years of my life,
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but I'm growing inside and whenI get spiritually strong enough
because of feeding on the Wordof God, I will overcome these
outward things that arecontrolling me and I'll be able
to sit with you and watch youget stoned while I turn you onto
something stronger than dope,which is the Word of God.
And that day came, brother, andit's never left Amen.
Ron Meyers (07:32):
So right now somebody's listening that says
man, I'm going through the samething, but I don't want to go to
church.
What would you tell that person?
Paul Perisich (07:40):
I would tell them Jesus is the only Lord and
Savior, the only God, the onlyman who is absolutely here in
everybody, all the time,anywhere, and start asking him,
like I did.
I started asking him.
Okay, jesus, if you're real,please help me, please send me
someone to teach me about you,please.
There was a preacher at the gasstation who used to ask me if
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you died right now, would you goto heaven?
I'd say I was baptized as ababy.
Do I have to have a specialticket to get in there?
I thought that I'm going toheaven.
And he'd say well, have youbeen born again?
I said I don't even know whatborn again is.
So I started asking the Lord.
So I'm telling you, start askingthe Lord and he is man enough
and loving enough and he isSavior enough to be able to help
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you and communicate to you andsend someone to you to lead you
to a life with him, a salvationexperience, receiving him as
your Savior.
And the easiest thing to dowould be for you to say Jesus, I
accept what you did.
I believe in my heart that youdied for me and that God raised
you from the dead and I need youto help me, and you know what
he'll do.
The Bible says whosoever shallcall upon the name of the Lord,
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he will save.
You'll never be ashamed ofdoing that.
Do it now.
Call on him, ask him.
Jesus, help me, save me.
Ron Meyers (08:51):
You know what you just said there in the last
couple of minutes is absolutelylife changing.
It's so simple.
He had to make it that simple,then why have we made it so
complicated?
Paul Perisich (09:01):
I don't even try.
And you know, when I receivedJesus as my Lord and I started
going to a church and really gotserious, I had asked the Lord
to lead me to a church.
I said I'm not going to go to achurch, lord.
I was going to the Baptistchurch and I was faithful there.
I never left.
So I said I'm not going to gofind a church.
I had learned more than whatthey were teaching and so I
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started asking the Lord, I'm notgoing to go find a church
because I'd probably fall inlove with the people.
I want you to send me a church,and a church that is teaching
the uncompromised word and thatwill bring me up to another
level with you, a greaterrelationship with you.
And he sent me a church.
So I never try and entertain toomuch in my mind of what is so
wrong with most churches.
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I try to stay with.
There's more to learn.
We never learn at all.
We never know at all.
So I've always sought out sendme teachers, lord, who will help
me have to learn more and growmore, so for us to be stuck in a
place where we don't learn, thesimplicity of salvation, or
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more than just salvation, is,then you need to find a church
that will teach you more thanthat.
You need to ask the Lord again.
There he is.
Okay, jesus, where do I need togo?
Or actually, holy Spirit,you've got to get me connected,
somewhere where I can grow to,where I'm actually a person who
lives this life not just onSunday, but I'm example to
others of this is what aChristian is like.
Ron Meyers (10:30):
What you're describing right there.
That's the kind of stuff, theconversation that we have with
Jesus.
I believe that Jesus reallyloves it when we come to Him for
the answers of life's troublesthat come our way?
Paul Perisich (10:45):
Could you imagine someone knowing you and they
never acknowledge you.
They get around you and theynever say anything.
I say this a lot to people,especially when I'm Sounds like
my parents, when I was little,me too.
I never heard my dad say I loveyou and all that stuff, I don't
worry about that stuff.
Today I got saved.
It was about two, three weekslater.
I went to him I was still longhair, dope smoking, vulgar mouth
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, cigarette smoking, hippie andwent to him and said Dad, I need
to tell you that I love you andthat Jesus put it in my heart
to come tell you that I love youand to forgive you of anything
you've ever done or didn't do tome.
But there's been a love placedin my heart that I just can't
contain it and I've got to tellyou.
And he has said to me where areyou going to church, boy?
And I told him where I'm going,he said you're going to hell.
I said I'm finally not going tohell, daddy.
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I finally really Jesus is myLord and you need to do just
what I did.
You need to call upon Him tosave you.
And he said things and what wewere raised.
But yes, yes, ron, I like toacknowledge Jesus throughout my
whole day he morning, noon,anytime, anywhere, any place.
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And you might be in a grocerystore and you're walking down
the aisle, and I learned thatwhen I raised my hands for some
reason that blesses the Lord.
So I'll be in home deeper.
I'll be in a store, a grocerystore, and you'll see somebody
in the aisle and I'll have myhands raised saying thank you
Jesus, because I've been in aplace where I didn't have the
money for the groceries I'vewanted.
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Now I'm in a place in lifewhere I have the money for the
groceries I want.
So sometimes, at His presence,I just stop and say I
acknowledge what you have donein my life and I thank you for
what you've brought me through,and I just raise my hands there
and say you say raising yourhands blesses you.
So right here, right now,publicly, I'm saying I bless you
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Jesus.
Ron Meyers (12:28):
Do you ever just scratch your head and just say,
man, this Jesus stuff is morethan I ever thought it would be.
It's so wonderful.
Paul Perisich (12:37):
I also had to make myself think of it like
this If I'm going to have a goodrelationship with my wife which
you know, we butt headseverybody.
But if you don't put it, headsin hallelujah.
But we butt heads once in awhile.
But the thing that keeps us ina good marriage is our
relationship.
She knows my pet peeves, I knowher pet peeves, and I read in
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the Bible where it says thatJesus said unto you is given to
know the secrets and themysteries of the kingdom of
heaven.
And actually one version sayshe said this to his inner circle
and I thought I want to be partof your inner circle, or please
let me in your inner circle.
If there's something I'm doingin my life that is keeping you
from letting me be close to you,that I'm in your inner circle,
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then I need that out of my life.
So there's people in my lifewho they're my acquaintance.
I know if I get around themthey're not going to talk like I
like to talk, they're not goingto act like I like to act,
they're not going to do thingsthat I think is good to do, and
so they're not in my innercircle.
But then there's friends who Iknow, when I get around them,
man, we're going to talk Jesusstuff, we're going to talk
prayer stuff, we're going totalk prosperity stuff or what
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we've got to do to get out ofthings that we're in that we
know isn't pleasing to the Lord.
So we're in an inner circle.
So when I started crying out tothe Lord, crying out to the Holy
Spirit, make me aware of whatI'm doing.
That would keep me away fromyour closest friend and I want
to be your friend and he startedpointing things out in my life.
He, you know, he's so kind.
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He points out tiny, tiny, tinythings at a time.
And I look back in my lifethere's this hundred mile long
tiny things that I've donebecause he asked me change this
and it's better change this andit'd be better.
And I look back in that personwho was at the beginning of
those tiny things.
He started changing.
I think I was really like thatat one time and now my life has
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become to the place where mywalk with him is just so
precious that I don't want tooffend him.
Do I do things that offend him?
Of course I do once in a while,but when I do and I realize
I've done something thatoffended the Lord or offended
the Holy Spirit.
You know what I do.
I'm quick to repent, Just likeif I had a close friend and I
did something that they thoughtthat is the stupidest thing you
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could ever do, I say I'm sorry,I shouldn't have done that,
brother.
So that's the way you keep areal close, a real strong
relationship with the Lord, andthen he's able to lead us and
guide us and help us through ourday.
Ron Meyers (14:57):
You and I were talking and you and I carry a
title that I'm proud of Misfit.
Right now you've got the mic.
I want you to talk to all mybrothers and sisters out there,
the fellow Misfits.
Paul Perisich (15:11):
You probably feel like a Misfit if you do and
it's good that you do, becauseRon quoted part of the scripture
that God chooses a base thingas God chooses a foolish things,
and so if your base are foolish, then God has a calling for you
.
He has a purpose for you.
He doesn't normally choose veryrich people to stand before
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people and preach his word, orvery intelligent people, even
though they get in there.
He does choose some.
He doesn't.
He doesn't choose many.
He would rather, or he haspurposed in his heart to choose
us who we feel like we don'treally fit in a place in church
or fit in a place in religion,and we really shouldn't fit in
that.
We should fit in Jesus's planand Jesus's purpose, and he's
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different than us.
He has an ability to choosepeople who don't fit into the
mindset of.
You have to go to this schoolor that school or this seminary
or that seminary to be a personwho can be used by God.
You have to be a person who'scommitted to the Lord and then
he will slowly bring you outinto a place where you're being
used by him and you won't evenrecognize you're being used by
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him, like him, I'm in a placeright now where people call me
pastor.
My pastor really is AndrewLombardo, at the Mission Church,
and when we first startedtalking about these things we
both said we feel like we comefrom the island of misfits.
We were rejected or shunned bythose who we would consider
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important in the church's eye.
So we focused on Lord if youcan use us, then you pull us out
and slowly but surely he had towork on our character to bring
us to the place where thegiftings he had in our life
could sustain us.
Because if you have gifts andyou don't have character, then
your gifts will take you to aplace where your character can't
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sustain you and you're not thattasteful to those who really
need Jesus.
You might say religious thingsand do religious things in the
church people accept you or bigpreachers think you're the
wonderfulest thing there everwas.
But when you come from ourrealm where we're foolish and
big preachers eyes are big,important people who are
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Christians with important namesdon't think much of you.
The Lord thinks a lot of youbecause you can reach those who
aren't reachable by big namepeople or people who are
important in other people's eyes.
I'm not diminishing theirimportance.
I'm diminishing their abilityto reach people like you and I,
who come from, like Ron said,the island of misfits, and
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there's so many out there whoare crying out, even though they
may never know, to cry out toJesus and ask him to help them.
They're crying out forsomething to make their life
what did Paul say?
Content.
I can be content poor, I can becontent wealthy, but I can be
content in any situation becauseof my relationship with Jesus.
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And they're crying out so theyturn to drugs or they turn to
sex, or they turn to fame, orthey turn to promoting
themselves or whatever it is, sothat they can feel good about
themselves when really they needto have.
Someone like you and me, who'vebeen in a position where we
don't fit in and what peoplewould think You're one of them,
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or you're a church person, oryou're a religious person.
They don't fit in that and theynever will fit in that.
So, someone like you and me,who haven't found acceptance in
those realms, so to speak, tillwe got really close with Jesus
and he was able to develop as aplace where we could speak in
both realms that realm and inthe misfit realm you need to
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start crying out to Jesus andyour level of courage or feeling
in a place of being content oracceptance will rise immediately
, because you will be acceptedby the King of all kings, by the
Lord of all lords.
And what other men think aboutyou or what other status people
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have in their mind about youwon't even matter, because your
status will be the one whoreally cares about you, and the
effect that he will have on youwill change your desire to use
other means to get there, suchas drugs or sex or importance or
a big name.
Those things will all changebecause he's the one who changes
our desires when we have a goodrelationship with him.
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So if there's anything you coulddo whether you've been a church
all your life and you stilldon't feel accepted start
drawing close to Jesus.
Start asking him.
He's the one who loves all thequestions.
He's the one who can answer allthe questions.
You get close to him and youspend your time throughout your
day talking with him, learninghis word, and I promise you your
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life will change to the placewhere you no longer feel like a
misfit in his realm.
You might not fit into theother realms, but you won't be a
misfit in his realm.
You'll be beneficial to him andhe will cause things to come
out of your mouth when you'rearound people who need help that
you never dreamed would comeout of you, and he'll speak
through you to help others.
That's his goal is to reachothers.
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And guess what?
You're the best thing he has.
You're the best person he has,and he thinks of you like that.
No matter what we think ofourselves, you're the best he's
got.
Ron Meyers (20:27):
Paul Parasich.
What a way to end ourconversation.
Paul Perisich (20:32):
Ron, I am honored I'm shaking in my boots to be
around you.
Ron, I'm honored.
You know what.
We're brothers and we'reserving the same Savior who did
the same thing in you that hedid in me, and our hearts in it
together.
Amen, brother, father, we thankyou that you've sent your word
for us to learn by, to lead usinto salvation.
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We thank you that your word,your Bible, everything points us
to Jesus and I thank you thatJesus gave his life for us.
You know, there's a simplicityin salvation it's if I've done
things that have violated God'sthoughts of how I should be,
then I've offended him.
So I know, oh God, pleaseforgive me for my lifestyle.
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Up till now, I've done this andthis and this, and I know that
you're not appreciative of medoing those things.
I didn't know better, but Iknow, now and then, if I did
something to you that was really, really valuable I put $100,000
in your bank account and I toldeverybody you know to tell you
that I did that Then the nexttime you saw me, you would say
thank you, paul, for what youdid.
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Well, we're telling you, andothers have told you, that Jesus
has died for your sins andJesus took your place in
spiritual death so you couldtake his place in spiritual life
.
So I'm telling you, you oweJesus a thank you.
Tell him thank you, jesus, forgiving your life for my life and
I accept what you did for me.
Father, I thank you for givingthem the understanding of this
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and the courage to act on that,and for you to change their life
and bring them into the placewhere you take them off of this
place of they don't feel worthyof you.
They are worthy of you becauseof what Jesus did.
Make that a reality in theirlife, as they accept what Jesus
did, and I thank you for that,father, in Jesus' name Amen.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
You're listening to Get the Hell Out of your Life
with your host, Ron Myers.
Real stories, real strugglesand real hope.
Speaker 6 (22:34):
Oh, that's when rival religious groups in the Middle
East get into a civil war.
What is agape?
It's a little fish about as bigas a dime Predestination.
Well, you're going on a tripand you have one destination in
mind and change your mind andyou want a different destination
.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
Let's face it often Christians and churches speak a
different language than everyoneelse.
Speaker 6 (22:49):
Original destination.
That's predestination.
Rapture oh, that's thosedinosaurs in Jurassic Park that
were the ancestors of birds.
Millennial rain that's whenthere's pollutants in the air
and these rain clouds filledwith these pollutants Sometimes
they have no idea what we'retalking about.
Grace, she's the blonde withthe southern accent on that
Tuesday night sitcom.
Sacrifice of praise.
Well, it's like when the RedSox needed two points and the
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guy on second base had tosacrifice a lot.
Speaker 5 (23:13):
If you want to reach someone for Jesus Christ, learn
how they think.
Get into their lives, insteadof waiting for them to come to
you or your church, and puttheir message on a level they
can understand and relate to.
Speaker 6 (23:24):
Spiritual gifts.
Well, it's like on somebody'sbirthday, you want to give them
a cross necklace or a religiousbook.
Omnipotent that's an animalthat can eat meat or vegetation,
like a grizzly bear.
Ron Meyers (23:55):
Well, paul sure had a story, didn't he?
But then we all have a story.
Our story is always beingwritten, until the day we leave
this world.
You know your story.
You may think that you aredisqualified because, if you're
past, or your story because Godcould never use you.
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Well, you just heard what Paulwent through in his early days
of growing pot, smoking, pot,long haired, vulgar, mild
individual, and yet today hecould hold a conversation with
the best of the best in theChristian circles, because Jesus
changed him.
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Jesus changes people, not achurch.
Jesus changes people's hearts,not participating in a ritual.
Jesus changes everything in ourlife, not our baptism.
Jesus gives us eternity.
He gives us intimaterelationship with him.
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All we have to do is call uponthe name of Jesus and he will
save us.
And that total forgiveness hegives us yes, we don't hear
enough about that Totalforgiveness.
Your sins are erased, past,present and future.
So you then have the freedom tobecome who he created you to
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become.
Oh, the world needs you so bad.
The world needs your gifts,talents and abilities, and I
hope Paul's story will encourageyou that, no matter where
you've been, no matter whatyou've done, god can and will
use you Don't have fear.
Trust God, trust Jesus andremember this that when you give
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Jesus your heart, he will giveyou a beautiful destiny.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Ron will be back in a moment to wrap up today's
conversation.
Did you know what Ron didbefore he discovered his destiny
?
He was a promoter of secularentertainment and, by his own
admission, he promoted anythinghe could make a buck at.
At the pinnacle of his success,he walked away from it all so
he could follow Jesus anddiscover his God given destiny.
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That was over 20 years ago andhe has never looked back.
Ron put his story in a novelentitled the Promoter and he
wants to give you a copy.
This book is a message of hope.
To request your free copy,visit our website at
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Now back to Ron.
Ron Meyers (26:36):
Well, friend, my time is up and maybe today's
conversation has led you tothink about sharing your story.
I would love to hear your story.
Go to my website,thepromoterorg, and click the
Share your Story link and I'llcall you and we'll talk over the
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Until next week, this is RonMyers, reminding you that I love
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Today's show will encourage,inspire and empower you to face
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The Provoder.
Ron Meyers (00:26):
Hello, my friends, it is so good to be with you for
another great show of Get theHell out of your life.
I want to welcome you to myneighborhood Now.
I have a neighborhood that well.
It's a little different thanmost neighborhoods.
It has all kinds of people thatwe call ourselves misfits.
We never fit in.
We march to a different beat ofa drum because we want to find
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out who we are, who Jesus sayswe are, and what he wants us to
do with the life he has given us.
So you're going to hear realstories from real individuals
that offer real hope, andtoday's story is one that you're
really going to enjoy.
Paul opens up about, well, hispast, and all of us Don't?
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We all have a past.
I mean, my past was sex, drugsand rock and roll.
I was a pretty big promoter onthe Gulf Coast, promoting
anything I could make a buck at.
But Jesus changed my direction,just like he does with all my
guests.
So this show, it's all aboutletting you find a new way to
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connect with Jesus.
It's not in church, it's withyour heart, it's with having
daily conversations with Jesus.
Because, friends, what you havewhen you do life with Jesus,
you have power, you have peace,you have purpose and you have
passion.
Well, my guest today has agreat story.
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He has become a very goodfriend of mine and he is on fire
for Jesus.
Paul Perisich (02:08):
So to speak.
Yes, on fire, that's aChristian-ese term, but you know
what?
I'm secure and I'm committed.
The effect that Jesus had on mewhen I said, jesus, I receive
you as my Savior, has never diedout or never changed and I
carry that effect with meeverywhere I go and in
everything I do.
So instead of saying I'm onfire because people get on fire
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and then the next thing you seethey're cold, so to speak.
I was preaching in jail for along time and I walked in a jail
cell one day and they hadn'thad anybody in there a long time
and some people come up to meand said, brother, it is so dry
in here, we haven't had anyonein here to preach in a while.
I said it's fixing the rain andwe had a wonderful time because
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I stay in a position of whatJesus did in me when someone
told me this is the way youreceive him.
And I did that, and the effectthat he had on me was inside and
I knew something changed.
That change has never dwindledor left.
So, yes, I'm on fire.
I guess that would be the wayyou would terminology say, give
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a term to it if you're aChristian, but if you're someone
who just lives a normal life,then I stick with what happened
to me when I was saved.
Ron Meyers (03:24):
Amen.
Now have you been like this allyour life?
Paul Perisich (03:28):
Actually, no, I was raised Catholic and I'm very
, very thankful for my Catholicfoundation.
If anything I was taught it wasto be in love with Jesus, and
they gave me a solid foundation,which was be faithful period.
And so I was raised in church.
I was an altar boy.
I did all those things and then, around the age of 13, I got on
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drugs, I was introduced tosmoking pot and all those
different things, and so Iwasn't.
And in those years of being inthe Catholic Church, I never
heard the salvation message,even though it had to have been
preached week after week orspoken of.
Somehow I missed it.
And so the day that someonecame to my house we're doing
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visitation I had been prayingLord Jesus, send someone to me.
Because I say it like this Iwas a long-haired dope, smoking,
vulgar mouth, cigarette smokinghippie and I had been asking
Jesus, if you're real, then sendsomeone to me to teach me about
you.
And it wasn't.
Three weeks later, someone wasknocking on my door, and when
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they knocked on my door and Iopened it, I lived out in the
country.
I moved out in the woods togrow weed.
I grew, I sold hundreds ofpounds of weed and grew a lot
and other things.
And when they knocked on mydoor and said we're from the
church down the road, I said Godsent you to me, give me just a
minute and I'm going to let youin.
So I went to the other end ofthe house and opened up the
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doors and told my wife lightcigarettes, I'm letting these
people in.
God sent someone to us and theyled us to salvation that night.
And I knew that if God was thatkind and merciful to me even in
my dope head, drug selling self, vulgar mouth self his kindness
and his mercy was to come to meand teach me about himself,
(05:12):
then I need to do everything Ican to learn as much as I can
about him, and I've never beenout of church since then.
Ron Meyers (05:18):
And the church is obviously in you.
Paul Perisich (05:21):
When I realized I was a member of his body.
Then I realized actually I wentto the other church it was a
Baptist church and I'm sothankful they did.
And I used to always say insidemy heart I wonder how hard it
was for them to say, okay, thisis a night of visitation, who
are going to go see?
And someone said, let's govisit the hippie.
Because I lived out in thewoods, because we grew weed.
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We couldn't do that in the city.
And when they came to thehippies house and the hippie got
saved and all of a sudden thehippies in church and I was in
church from then on and I wouldcome to church stone.
It took the Lord two years toget me off weed.
Actually I asked him Lord, whatis?
It was more like this Dude Lord, what is wrong with this stuff,
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man?
I mean, why can't I get stoned?
This is taste so good.
And the scripture the Lord gaveme was you shall love the Lord,
your God, with all your heart,with all your soul and with all
your strength.
You're loving me with all yourheart, but you're turning your
mind, your will and youremotions and your physical body
to being comforted by smokingweed or drinking beer to get a
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buzz.
And I asked you to love me withall three.
And I said I see it, lord, ifyou'll help me, I will never
touch this stuff again.
Get me free from it.
And I can't tell you what day Iquit smoking pot and I got free
from cigarettes.
It just happened over a, like Isaid, about a two year period.
I slowly dwindled out of mylife because I grew spiritual.
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I used to tell friends I willsit with you next year on New
Year's.
Y'all will all be gettingstoned and I'll sit with you and
I won't take a single toke offyour joint because inside me
something's happening.
You can't see it, but I'mgrowing spiritually.
Right now my spirit isn'tstrong enough to throw off the
things that I trained it to dofor all these years of my life,
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but I'm growing inside and whenI get spiritually strong enough
because of feeding on the Wordof God, I will overcome these
outward things that arecontrolling me and I'll be able
to sit with you and watch youget stoned while I turn you onto
something stronger than dope,which is the Word of God.
And that day came, brother, andit's never left Amen.
Ron Meyers (07:32):
So right now somebody's listening that says
man, I'm going through the samething, but I don't want to go to
church.
What would you tell that person?
Paul Perisich (07:40):
I would tell them Jesus is the only Lord and
Savior, the only God, the onlyman who is absolutely here in
everybody, all the time,anywhere, and start asking him,
like I did.
I started asking him.
Okay, jesus, if you're real,please help me, please send me
someone to teach me about you,please.
There was a preacher at the gasstation who used to ask me if
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you died right now, would you goto heaven?
I'd say I was baptized as ababy.
Do I have to have a specialticket to get in there?
I thought that I'm going toheaven.
And he'd say well, have youbeen born again?
I said I don't even know whatborn again is.
So I started asking the Lord.
So I'm telling you, start askingthe Lord and he is man enough
and loving enough and he isSavior enough to be able to help
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you and communicate to you andsend someone to you to lead you
to a life with him, a salvationexperience, receiving him as
your Savior.
And the easiest thing to dowould be for you to say Jesus, I
accept what you did.
I believe in my heart that youdied for me and that God raised
you from the dead and I need youto help me, and you know what
he'll do.
The Bible says whosoever shallcall upon the name of the Lord,
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he will save.
You'll never be ashamed ofdoing that.
Do it now.
Call on him, ask him.
Jesus, help me, save me.
Ron Meyers (08:51):
You know what you just said there in the last
couple of minutes is absolutelylife changing.
It's so simple.
He had to make it that simple,then why have we made it so
complicated?
Paul Perisich (09:01):
I don't even try.
And you know, when I receivedJesus as my Lord and I started
going to a church and really gotserious, I had asked the Lord
to lead me to a church.
I said I'm not going to go to achurch, lord.
I was going to the Baptistchurch and I was faithful there.
I never left.
So I said I'm not going to gofind a church.
I had learned more than whatthey were teaching and so I
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started asking the Lord, I'm notgoing to go find a church
because I'd probably fall inlove with the people.
I want you to send me a church,and a church that is teaching
the uncompromised word and thatwill bring me up to another
level with you, a greaterrelationship with you.
And he sent me a church.
So I never try and entertain toomuch in my mind of what is so
wrong with most churches.
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I try to stay with.
There's more to learn.
We never learn at all.
We never know at all.
So I've always sought out sendme teachers, lord, who will help
me have to learn more and growmore, so for us to be stuck in a
place where we don't learn, thesimplicity of salvation, or
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more than just salvation, is,then you need to find a church
that will teach you more thanthat.
You need to ask the Lord again.
There he is.
Okay, jesus, where do I need togo?
Or actually, holy Spirit,you've got to get me connected,
somewhere where I can grow to,where I'm actually a person who
lives this life not just onSunday, but I'm example to
others of this is what aChristian is like.
Ron Meyers (10:30):
What you're describing right there.
That's the kind of stuff, theconversation that we have with
Jesus.
I believe that Jesus reallyloves it when we come to Him for
the answers of life's troublesthat come our way?
Paul Perisich (10:45):
Could you imagine someone knowing you and they
never acknowledge you.
They get around you and theynever say anything.
I say this a lot to people,especially when I'm Sounds like
my parents, when I was little,me too.
I never heard my dad say I loveyou and all that stuff, I don't
worry about that stuff.
Today I got saved.
It was about two, three weekslater.
I went to him I was still longhair, dope smoking, vulgar mouth
(11:05):
, cigarette smoking, hippie andwent to him and said Dad, I need
to tell you that I love you andthat Jesus put it in my heart
to come tell you that I love youand to forgive you of anything
you've ever done or didn't do tome.
But there's been a love placedin my heart that I just can't
contain it and I've got to tellyou.
And he has said to me where areyou going to church, boy?
And I told him where I'm going,he said you're going to hell.
I said I'm finally not going tohell, daddy.
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I finally really Jesus is myLord and you need to do just
what I did.
You need to call upon Him tosave you.
And he said things and what wewere raised.
But yes, yes, ron, I like toacknowledge Jesus throughout my
whole day he morning, noon,anytime, anywhere, any place.
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And you might be in a grocerystore and you're walking down
the aisle, and I learned thatwhen I raised my hands for some
reason that blesses the Lord.
So I'll be in home deeper.
I'll be in a store, a grocerystore, and you'll see somebody
in the aisle and I'll have myhands raised saying thank you
Jesus, because I've been in aplace where I didn't have the
money for the groceries I'vewanted.
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Now I'm in a place in lifewhere I have the money for the
groceries I want.
So sometimes, at His presence,I just stop and say I
acknowledge what you have donein my life and I thank you for
what you've brought me through,and I just raise my hands there
and say you say raising yourhands blesses you.
So right here, right now,publicly, I'm saying I bless you
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Jesus.
Ron Meyers (12:28):
Do you ever just scratch your head and just say,
man, this Jesus stuff is morethan I ever thought it would be.
It's so wonderful.
Paul Perisich (12:37):
I also had to make myself think of it like
this If I'm going to have a goodrelationship with my wife which
you know, we butt headseverybody.
But if you don't put it, headsin hallelujah.
But we butt heads once in awhile.
But the thing that keeps us ina good marriage is our
relationship.
She knows my pet peeves, I knowher pet peeves, and I read in
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the Bible where it says thatJesus said unto you is given to
know the secrets and themysteries of the kingdom of
heaven.
And actually one version sayshe said this to his inner circle
and I thought I want to be partof your inner circle, or please
let me in your inner circle.
If there's something I'm doingin my life that is keeping you
from letting me be close to you,that I'm in your inner circle,
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then I need that out of my life.
So there's people in my lifewho they're my acquaintance.
I know if I get around themthey're not going to talk like I
like to talk, they're not goingto act like I like to act,
they're not going to do thingsthat I think is good to do, and
so they're not in my innercircle.
But then there's friends who Iknow, when I get around them,
man, we're going to talk Jesusstuff, we're going to talk
prayer stuff, we're going totalk prosperity stuff or what
(13:41):
we've got to do to get out ofthings that we're in that we
know isn't pleasing to the Lord.
So we're in an inner circle.
So when I started crying out tothe Lord, crying out to the Holy
Spirit, make me aware of whatI'm doing.
That would keep me away fromyour closest friend and I want
to be your friend and he startedpointing things out in my life.
He, you know, he's so kind.
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He points out tiny, tiny, tinythings at a time.
And I look back in my lifethere's this hundred mile long
tiny things that I've donebecause he asked me change this
and it's better change this andit'd be better.
And I look back in that personwho was at the beginning of
those tiny things.
He started changing.
I think I was really like thatat one time and now my life has
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become to the place where mywalk with him is just so
precious that I don't want tooffend him.
Do I do things that offend him?
Of course I do once in a while,but when I do and I realize
I've done something thatoffended the Lord or offended
the Holy Spirit.
You know what I do.
I'm quick to repent, Just likeif I had a close friend and I
did something that they thoughtthat is the stupidest thing you
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could ever do, I say I'm sorry,I shouldn't have done that,
brother.
So that's the way you keep areal close, a real strong
relationship with the Lord, andthen he's able to lead us and
guide us and help us through ourday.
Ron Meyers (14:57):
You and I were talking and you and I carry a
title that I'm proud of Misfit.
Right now you've got the mic.
I want you to talk to all mybrothers and sisters out there,
the fellow Misfits.
Paul Perisich (15:11):
You probably feel like a Misfit if you do and
it's good that you do, becauseRon quoted part of the scripture
that God chooses a base thingas God chooses a foolish things,
and so if your base are foolish, then God has a calling for you
.
He has a purpose for you.
He doesn't normally choose veryrich people to stand before
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people and preach his word, orvery intelligent people, even
though they get in there.
He does choose some.
He doesn't.
He doesn't choose many.
He would rather, or he haspurposed in his heart to choose
us who we feel like we don'treally fit in a place in church
or fit in a place in religion,and we really shouldn't fit in
that.
We should fit in Jesus's planand Jesus's purpose, and he's
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different than us.
He has an ability to choosepeople who don't fit into the
mindset of.
You have to go to this schoolor that school or this seminary
or that seminary to be a personwho can be used by God.
You have to be a person who'scommitted to the Lord and then
he will slowly bring you outinto a place where you're being
used by him and you won't evenrecognize you're being used by
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him, like him, I'm in a placeright now where people call me
pastor.
My pastor really is AndrewLombardo, at the Mission Church,
and when we first startedtalking about these things we
both said we feel like we comefrom the island of misfits.
We were rejected or shunned bythose who we would consider
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important in the church's eye.
So we focused on Lord if youcan use us, then you pull us out
and slowly but surely he had towork on our character to bring
us to the place where thegiftings he had in our life
could sustain us.
Because if you have gifts andyou don't have character, then
your gifts will take you to aplace where your character can't
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sustain you and you're not thattasteful to those who really
need Jesus.
You might say religious thingsand do religious things in the
church people accept you or bigpreachers think you're the
wonderfulest thing there everwas.
But when you come from ourrealm where we're foolish and
big preachers eyes are big,important people who are
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Christians with important namesdon't think much of you.
The Lord thinks a lot of youbecause you can reach those who
aren't reachable by big namepeople or people who are
important in other people's eyes.
I'm not diminishing theirimportance.
I'm diminishing their abilityto reach people like you and I,
who come from, like Ron said,the island of misfits, and
(17:45):
there's so many out there whoare crying out, even though they
may never know, to cry out toJesus and ask him to help them.
They're crying out forsomething to make their life
what did Paul say?
Content.
I can be content poor, I can becontent wealthy, but I can be
content in any situation becauseof my relationship with Jesus.
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And they're crying out so theyturn to drugs or they turn to
sex, or they turn to fame, orthey turn to promoting
themselves or whatever it is, sothat they can feel good about
themselves when really they needto have.
Someone like you and me, who'vebeen in a position where we
don't fit in and what peoplewould think You're one of them,
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or you're a church person, oryou're a religious person.
They don't fit in that and theynever will fit in that.
So, someone like you and me,who haven't found acceptance in
those realms, so to speak, tillwe got really close with Jesus
and he was able to develop as aplace where we could speak in
both realms that realm and inthe misfit realm you need to
(18:51):
start crying out to Jesus andyour level of courage or feeling
in a place of being content oracceptance will rise immediately
, because you will be acceptedby the King of all kings, by the
Lord of all lords.
And what other men think aboutyou or what other status people
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have in their mind about youwon't even matter, because your
status will be the one whoreally cares about you, and the
effect that he will have on youwill change your desire to use
other means to get there, suchas drugs or sex or importance or
a big name.
Those things will all changebecause he's the one who changes
our desires when we have a goodrelationship with him.
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So if there's anything you coulddo whether you've been a church
all your life and you stilldon't feel accepted start
drawing close to Jesus.
Start asking him.
He's the one who loves all thequestions.
He's the one who can answer allthe questions.
You get close to him and youspend your time throughout your
day talking with him, learninghis word, and I promise you your
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life will change to the placewhere you no longer feel like a
misfit in his realm.
You might not fit into theother realms, but you won't be a
misfit in his realm.
You'll be beneficial to him andhe will cause things to come
out of your mouth when you'rearound people who need help that
you never dreamed would comeout of you, and he'll speak
through you to help others.
That's his goal is to reachothers.
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And guess what?
You're the best thing he has.
You're the best person he has,and he thinks of you like that.
No matter what we think ofourselves, you're the best he's
got.
Ron Meyers (20:27):
Paul Parasich.
What a way to end ourconversation.
Paul Perisich (20:32):
Ron, I am honored I'm shaking in my boots to be
around you.
Ron, I'm honored.
You know what.
We're brothers and we'reserving the same Savior who did
the same thing in you that hedid in me, and our hearts in it
together.
Amen, brother, father, we thankyou that you've sent your word
for us to learn by, to lead usinto salvation.
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We thank you that your word,your Bible, everything points us
to Jesus and I thank you thatJesus gave his life for us.
You know, there's a simplicityin salvation it's if I've done
things that have violated God'sthoughts of how I should be,
then I've offended him.
So I know, oh God, pleaseforgive me for my lifestyle.
(21:12):
Up till now, I've done this andthis and this, and I know that
you're not appreciative of medoing those things.
I didn't know better, but Iknow, now and then, if I did
something to you that was really, really valuable I put $100,000
in your bank account and I toldeverybody you know to tell you
that I did that Then the nexttime you saw me, you would say
thank you, paul, for what youdid.
(21:34):
Well, we're telling you, andothers have told you, that Jesus
has died for your sins andJesus took your place in
spiritual death so you couldtake his place in spiritual life
.
So I'm telling you, you oweJesus a thank you.
Tell him thank you, jesus, forgiving your life for my life and
I accept what you did for me.
Father, I thank you for givingthem the understanding of this
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and the courage to act on that,and for you to change their life
and bring them into the placewhere you take them off of this
place of they don't feel worthyof you.
They are worthy of you becauseof what Jesus did.
Make that a reality in theirlife, as they accept what Jesus
did, and I thank you for that,father, in Jesus' name Amen.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
You're listening to Get the Hell Out of your Life
with your host, Ron Myers.
Real stories, real strugglesand real hope.
Speaker 6 (22:34):
Oh, that's when rival religious groups in the Middle
East get into a civil war.
What is agape?
It's a little fish about as bigas a dime Predestination.
Well, you're going on a tripand you have one destination in
mind and change your mind andyou want a different destination
.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
Let's face it often Christians and churches speak a
different language than everyoneelse.
Speaker 6 (22:49):
Original destination.
That's predestination.
Rapture oh, that's thosedinosaurs in Jurassic Park that
were the ancestors of birds.
Millennial rain that's whenthere's pollutants in the air
and these rain clouds filledwith these pollutants Sometimes
they have no idea what we'retalking about.
Grace, she's the blonde withthe southern accent on that
Tuesday night sitcom.
Sacrifice of praise.
Well, it's like when the RedSox needed two points and the
(23:11):
guy on second base had tosacrifice a lot.
Speaker 5 (23:13):
If you want to reach someone for Jesus Christ, learn
how they think.
Get into their lives, insteadof waiting for them to come to
you or your church, and puttheir message on a level they
can understand and relate to.
Speaker 6 (23:24):
Spiritual gifts.
Well, it's like on somebody'sbirthday, you want to give them
a cross necklace or a religiousbook.
Omnipotent that's an animalthat can eat meat or vegetation,
like a grizzly bear.
Ron Meyers (23:55):
Well, paul sure had a story, didn't he?
But then we all have a story.
Our story is always beingwritten, until the day we leave
this world.
You know your story.
You may think that you aredisqualified because, if you're
past, or your story because Godcould never use you.
(24:17):
Well, you just heard what Paulwent through in his early days
of growing pot, smoking, pot,long haired, vulgar, mild
individual, and yet today hecould hold a conversation with
the best of the best in theChristian circles, because Jesus
changed him.
(24:38):
Jesus changes people, not achurch.
Jesus changes people's hearts,not participating in a ritual.
Jesus changes everything in ourlife, not our baptism.
Jesus gives us eternity.
He gives us intimaterelationship with him.
(24:59):
All we have to do is call uponthe name of Jesus and he will
save us.
And that total forgiveness hegives us yes, we don't hear
enough about that Totalforgiveness.
Your sins are erased, past,present and future.
So you then have the freedom tobecome who he created you to
(25:23):
become.
Oh, the world needs you so bad.
The world needs your gifts,talents and abilities, and I
hope Paul's story will encourageyou that, no matter where
you've been, no matter whatyou've done, god can and will
use you Don't have fear.
Trust God, trust Jesus andremember this that when you give
(25:47):
Jesus your heart, he will giveyou a beautiful destiny.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Ron will be back in a moment to wrap up today's
conversation.
Did you know what Ron didbefore he discovered his destiny
?
He was a promoter of secularentertainment and, by his own
admission, he promoted anythinghe could make a buck at.
At the pinnacle of his success,he walked away from it all so
he could follow Jesus anddiscover his God given destiny.
(26:15):
That was over 20 years ago andhe has never looked back.
Ron put his story in a novelentitled the Promoter and he
wants to give you a copy.
This book is a message of hope.
To request your free copy,visit our website at
thepromoterorg.
Now back to Ron.
Ron Meyers (26:36):
Well, friend, my time is up and maybe today's
conversation has led you tothink about sharing your story.
I would love to hear your story.
Go to my website,thepromoterorg, and click the
Share your Story link and I'llcall you and we'll talk over the
phone and we'll record yourstory and you can empower
(27:00):
somebody out there, you canencourage someone out there and
you can share your eye-witnessaccount of what Jesus did for
you.
Until next week, this is RonMyers, reminding you that I love
you, jesus loves you, and whenyou give Jesus your heart, he
will take the hell out of youreye.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Get the hell out of your life.
Get the hell out of your lifeis underwritten by the Christmas
City Gift Show.
We invite you to come shop withover 255 vendors from all over
the United States from November8th through the 10th inside the
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You can find more informationat ChristmasCityGiftShowcom.
(27:51):
Thanks for listening, and ifyou would like to share your
story of what God has done inyour life or listened to
previous episodes, please visitour website, thepromoterorg.
Join us next week for anotherepisode of Get the Hell Out of
your Life Real stories, realstruggles and real hope.
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