126 - Dave Daly - How a Tragic Neck Injury Turned into a Comeback Story - Getting After It

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Brett (00:00):
It's better than what Blake and I looked like last
night.

Dave (00:02):
You think, yeah, that's good Okay cool, I'm going to sit
right here, have fun.

Brett (00:06):
All right.

Dave (00:06):
Trapped.
You are trapped.

Brett (00:10):
All right, so you hear about it Right on.
You can turn in later If Iscream I don't know, dave,
everybody scream.
Well, awesome, there we go.

Dave (00:30):
Well, daveave welcome to the show.
Are we live already?
We're live already.
Oh see, I thought you were inprogress.
Jump right into it, you knowlet's do it, that's.
Uh, it's kind of how it goeswith this uh get after it, get
after it, getting after it,getting after it.
I mean, yeah, we're alwaysgetting after it, you know,
always finding what the nextmove is and all that I love that
title anyway, so that's cool.

Brett (00:49):
It's good.
I mean, the reason I came upwith that title is I don't know
if you know who Jocko Willink is.
Explain, Tell me.
He's a Navy SEAL or ex-Navy SEAL, but he was a Navy SEAL
commander.
Heard Navy SEAL, but he was aNavy SEAL commander and yeah,
all those guys they all talkabout you know you gotta get
after you, gotta push yourselfand put yourself out there and

(01:09):
um I, when I was in college, Ifound that and um inspired you,
found it all, inspired me andtaught me about discipline and
cool, how to work hard.
So, yeah, now it's part of mylife getting after it and it's
it's great, because now you getto have people on like you to
tell me about what you'regetting after and, ultimately,
some life lessons.
So, yeah, I really appreciateyou coming on tonight and just

(01:32):
having the conversation.
Happy to be here.
Yeah, maybe just from the top,just introduce yourself Okay.

Dave (01:38):
Yeah, I'll go into that.
And then kind of why youbrought me here.

Brett (01:41):
Yeah.

Dave (01:42):
My name is Dave Daly or David Daly.
Do I look at the camera or do Ijust look wherever I want to?

Brett (01:48):
Yeah, you can just look at it.
Yeah, look at me, it'sconversation.
Yeah, so for dramatic effects,sometimes you can look at the
camera.

Dave (01:55):
First appearance on a podcast, I got to tell you, yeah
, so, david Daly, I um, I'm homehere in mesa.
This feels like home.
I was born in utah, uh, butmoved away when I was seven and
my stomping grounds all here inmesa, and I know you're visiting
here with mesa, with alley, butyeah, you used to live here too
, gilbert oh, did you?
Yeah, oh, that's right.
Born and raised there you go.

Brett (02:16):
You ever been out to riggs road out there?

Dave (02:18):
that's my family, so yeah so our last house before we uh
bought this one was out thereand way out there, and was it a
Higley and Chandler Heights.

Brett (02:27):
Oh nice, okay yeah, my grandparents live right out
there I actually was most partof that.
Yeah, yeah, it was crazy.

Dave (02:33):
I miss it.
I love Gilbert, but the housewas huge and emptiness and it
was tight and then it wasupstairs and this body was not
doing the upstairs.
So, speaking of this body, I'llget into it.
Yeah, what happened?
This body, what's going on?

Brett (02:46):
Yeah, what is going on?
So have you told anybody.

Dave (02:48):
This is, this is.
Here goes the reveals.

Brett (02:55):
This is it.
Yeah, I mean, um, I can kind ofset it up and then.

Dave (02:56):
I'd love for you just to go to the story, but you had a,
um, pretty severe accidenthappened.

Brett (03:01):
Um, and the reason I wanted you to to come on and
share the story is, for me, itwas a story when Allie told me
about pure resilience and likepushing yourself to, you know,
get better and heal, and, um,yeah, I, I think it's.
It's an amazing story and, um,if you don't mind, maybe taking

(03:22):
us, you know the to thebeginning memory lane, memory
lane.

Dave (03:26):
Yeah, we got all night so I won't uh spare any, uh miss
any stuff here.
So, um, so it was eight yearsago, 2017.
Um, and it, I mean, itdefinitely was a game changer.
I don't say I don't want tomiss anything, so it was a
family vacation.
It's's that one where, um, youknow, jen probably planned it

(03:47):
for a year and a half andnobody's pregnant and nobody on
a mission, uh, so everybody isattending, so where was it?
Uh, it was in, thank you.
It was in Encinita, california,which is just above La Jolla,
yeah, so she got it, she got thebeach house, you know, right on
the beach, and uh, uh, therewas probably a total of, I think

(04:10):
, 32 of us there, grandkids intotal.
So, yeah, it was.
It was a party.
I crashed that party, butanyways, the party and, um, you
know, we were in DC world andDisneyland, probably the whole
thing, and, uh, we got there andit was second day in and I
think we just had a day day, uh,relaxing, that we could do
stuff before the big stuffhappens the next few days.
So, um, I remember talking tohayden, uh, which is my son, and

(04:32):
um, carlos, which is, uh, myson-in-law, okay, and they're
both at the time, probably 23 orsomething, I'm guessing.
Yeah, yeah, somewhere in there,something like that.
Carlos had just married, uh,alicia, which, um, she knows
Allie very well, yeah, so, um,and we bought some boogie boards

(04:56):
and that's what we were goingto do, you know, playing the
ocean grandkids were going to,you know, build sandcastles.

Brett (05:01):
Oh yeah, I'm the one building sandcastles, yeah I do
too now.

Dave (05:05):
So, and just just fun, and I was probably, you know, too
old and too fat to be out thereboogie boarding, but you know I
was trying too hard to uh becool for my, my son or something
yeah, so so that was the deal.
Um, uh, we got out there andjust was gonna boogie board and
that and, uh, you know I didthat a little bit in my youth a

(05:27):
little bit.
So got out there and the waveswere pretty good that day.
I mean they were, they werepretty strong and so I remember
I was after two or three waves.
It was strange I uh on theboogie board it.
I had a thought that you know,maybe this weight and it might I
could see the water rippling onthe front of the board there
and I'm thinking I wonder ifthat you know, catches and tips

(05:47):
it forward.
So maybe I should have paidattention to that thought.

Brett (05:50):
But, anyway.

Dave (05:51):
so I did have a thought there and it was literally two
waves later.
So, and keep in mind, we're not, we're just having fun, Go out,
take a wave and go out and thencome back in.

Brett (06:02):
We're not babysitting each other it wasn't too far out
in the water uh, it was outtheir ways.

Dave (06:06):
I mean where you pick up the wave.
So, yeah, not too far out.
But I drifted down from jen,maybe where headquarters was
with jen, probably, I don't knowmaybe 200 yards down, you know,
because we were prettywidespread out and I had family
members far away on the otherside mason and other people were
on the other side Anyway.
So we were just having fun andgetting out there and taking the

(06:27):
waves.
And it took this wave here andI remember it was a pretty good
one.
It picked me up and sure enoughit tipped that way and I think
the front did catch and tip.
So when it did that, it kind ofturned the boogie board like
just completely sideways, so itmade a wall.
So so it made a wall.
And then the I mean you respectmother nature after these type

(06:50):
of things, I'm telling you so,um, the wave, um got behind the
boogie board and kind of made awall and I guess I held on to
the boogie board, got nervous orsomething, but held on to it.
It happened so fast.
But then the wave pushed thatboogie board down.

(07:12):
Probably I'm gonna guess maybesix feet, five, six feet where
that was, maybe less.
So it pushed it down, held onto it and so it came down.
Then I I end up hitting my myforehead and my nose just right
here, right in the center of myforehead and kind of the tip of
the top of the nose there, and Ihit it pretty hard and it

(07:34):
snapped my neck back and it justlike cracked.
You know, I thought allliterally went through.
My mind was wow, that waspretty wicked, I better just go
in.
You know, it's one of thoseones where I better go take a
break, yeah it wasn't that bad,just like, yeah, that was.
That was pretty heavy you know,it rattled me around a little
bit, probably like a rag dollunderneath the water there and
hitting the bottom.
So that was what my thought was.

(07:55):
So I came up and this is theaha moment.
So, uh, it came, that's what Icall.
The aha moment came up and uhliterally thought you better go
in.
So I got to move and there'snothing.
So nothing from the shouldersdown.
So from, you know, theshoulders down, there's just.
It was this most eerie, strangefeeling yeah, what's that like?
oh, I mean, you can't evenexplain it.

(08:17):
So there's a, there's this,there's steps there.
You know, it's felt like aneternity.
Yeah, and you come up and I'mliterally so now I'm in five
feet of water on the ocean.
Again, we're not babysittingeach other, so I don't know
where I've drifted to.
Nobody's really watching me.
So you're, I'm in, let's say,five feet of water and I'm
facing, uh, down, just floating,you know, face down into the in

(08:42):
the ocean there, and then yourmind starts to turn over.

Brett (08:43):
no, no shoulders there.
So so then the thoughts happen,you know, face down into the,
in the ocean there, and thenyour mind starts to turn over no
, no shoulders there.

Dave (08:47):
So so then the thoughts happen.
You know, this is it.
I'm done because we're notbabysitting each other.
So, um, I'm thinking, how longdo I have in this type of thing?
So, um, I'm going to guess.
Um, probably two minutes wentby and I'll tell you what

(09:08):
happened.
I don't know if you're aspiritual person I know you are
Absolutely but there's a lot ofthings that happened at the time
.
I know we have a lot of thingsin life that things happen to us
, and this is one of those.
So, face down there forprobably just shy of two minutes
that's a long time, by allintents and purposes.
I should have freaked out, youknow, probably First of all

(09:30):
taking some salt water.
Yeah, freaked out there andtried to scream or do something.
Couldn't move, but was reallycalm, really calm, eerie calm,
so very calm, but just had a lotof deep thoughts, like you know
.
Anyway, it's that's kind ofhard to explain, but very, you
know this aha moment, justsitting there, and next thing,

(09:52):
you know, um, carlos, whichelise's husband, so I call him
my, the protector, or theguardian angel he, uh yeah, I'll
get up on tangents here hecomes up and next thing, you
know, he's grabbing my shoulderand tips me up and I'll never
forget I made eye contact rightat Carlos and I look at him and
I said I broke my neck, get mein.

(10:13):
So you know, we're in five feetof water and as the waves swell
it ends up six feet and you godown to five.
So it's doing that.
So he's a stud.
He just he grabs me Hayden'soff, I think, taking a wave.
He has no clue.
Yeah so, but Carlos, so I'llback up here he doesn't take a
wave and just felt inspired notto take that wave and to look

(10:34):
for me.
So this is what he tells me Inthe hospital.
I asked him like what did youdo, anyway?
So he just said he feltinspired not to take the wave
and I want to make sure, geteverything here.
He looks at whatever I'll callmy protector.
He's looking and he sees theboogie board just flowing with
nothing and it's a good distanceaway.

(10:56):
So he hightails it over thereand swims to me.
I'm back up and then he gets tome and he grabs my shoulder and
lifts me up and he said therewas blood all over, like the
head, and because it was, youknow, it's one of them, things
that just kind of tears.
It wasn't terrible, but it bleeda lot.

Brett (11:11):
So you show me the, you sent me the picture.

Dave (11:13):
Yeah, I sent a few pictures, just so you get an
idea looks like you're.
Yeah, it's like a big scab hereand there, but I guess that you
know I couldn't see it, but Iguess it bleeds a lot.
So he, he thought I got bit bya shark.
He didn't know really yeah, sothat's what he told me, so I I
thought you get the bite.
That would have been a coolstory.
I should I tell people thatsometimes you should see the
show?

Brett (11:29):
you fought the shark.

Dave (11:30):
Yeah, I killed the shark, broke his jaw.
Yeah, that'd probably be acooler story than this one, but
better tell the truth.
So, um, am I talking too loudin this mic?
No, it's perfect.
Carlos comes up and I look athim just straight in the eyes
and I must have been like, oh mygosh, I'm saved.
Um, I said I broke my neck andget me in.

(11:52):
So he's five nine and he canbarely stand up.
Out there, one of those swellscomes.
He probably.
You know he's, he's not, he'snot going to stand.
So he just takes me, his littlestay, just takes me and lifts me
, propels probably had a lot ofadrenaline going at the time too
but propels me out of the waterand he's like hold on, he's
from Chihuahua, oh wow, hold on,hold on, dave, hold on.

(12:13):
So he's just hold on, hold on.
So he's got my back and he'sjust literally lifting me out of
the water and he's going tolove this when he watches this
podcast.
But he lifts me out of thewater and as he's backing out,
just trying to back up slowlytowards the shore, and he's
screaming Hayden, hayden.
And then Hayden sees what'sgoing on as he's walking up, so

(12:34):
then Hayden joins and gets on myfeet.
So anyway, that went on forhowever long it took to get me
into shore there, and they getme in there, and then then by
that time there starts to be alittle bit of buzz.
What's going on there?
and um, uh, they get me prettymuch into shore there and, uh,

(12:54):
people just start surroundingaround chris, the, the oldest
son, which is my stepson jen'soldest.
He's a dentist now but yeah, hewas doing doctor type stuff, so
he became the, the doctor, soto speak.
He, you know, telling me whatto do and got around, he was
kind of kneeling behind my headand I just remember there's a

(13:15):
crowd around me and it's just,I'm like I just I get really uh,
um, silly.
In those moments you think youfreak out, but I, I crack in
jokes and people are like is heserious?
Serious, is you know?
Is he drugged?
And I just I don't know why itis Maybe nervous behavior or
something.

Brett (13:30):
I mean there's probably a lot of it going through you too
.

Dave (13:33):
Yeah, I just cause I remember one one thing.
I'm sitting there and I'mlaying there.
This is a true story.
I'm laying there and I look I'msomebody out Mason or somebody
who's there and I go, are myfeet in the air right now?
And Mason's like no, and I'mlike I think I said shit, shit,
because it felt swearing Sorry,bishop, he'll forgive you for

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this.
It felt like my feet were up inthe air because of the
sensation and they're on theground.
And I knew something like okay,okay, what is going on?
Because it felt like they'resuspended in the air, like
somebody's holding them.
They're on the ground.
I'm like all right, what isgoing on?
So they're assessing and youknow I think chris knew that I
probably paralyzed myself.
And there's there's adifference between um and I'll

(14:20):
probably get this into it'scalled incomplete, incomplete.
You probably know what thatmeans.
I actually don't, yeah, socomplete on an injury like this,
complete would be ChristopherReeve.
That's where it snapped orbroke and you're paralyzed.
So I was incomplete.
Meaning it's like a train wreckin there and I'll tell you more

(14:40):
about that in surgery, tell youabout more about that in
surgery.
But, um, there's stillsomething smaller for that brain
to send some, yeah, neuronsthrough that spine.
You know a little area, yeah.
So, um, didn't, man, I'll holdon here.

Brett (14:56):
So uh well, in this moment, were you feeling pain,
or was it just like you feelthese weird sensations?
That's a good question.

Dave (15:03):
Um, I was probably in shock a little bit.
No, I'd say no pain.
I remember there was no pain,just a little nervous.
And then a nurse came by andthey were just getting around.
There started to be a littlebit of crowd and it was a little
hype and I remember Alicia wasrunning down the beach and she's

(15:24):
like call 911.
I call her Paul Revere, call911.
Call 911.

Brett (15:28):
Got Paul Revere in the car.
British Air Company she wascalling 911.

Dave (15:32):
She was running down the beach yelling it, so I guess
nobody had the phone.
So they get down to Jen.
Nothing is said to Jen, so theyget that Jen has the phone.
That's working.
So she knew something was goingon in the distance, because
it's literally probably I don'tknow maybe two football fields
away yeah, not too far.
Right, it's a distance there,but she could see some commotion

(15:53):
down there.
So her phone was working or hadthe phone.
So he got communicator to call9-1-1 and so, jen, I shouldn't
laugh jen uh dials 9-1 andstarts to communicate that they
need to get somebody out here,there's some serious injury or
whatever.
So she's walking towards me andthat morning I also went to

(16:14):
Walmart and bought a newswimsuit.
Okay, so the reason, I tell youthat, as she's walking and
telling I don't know who it is,blah, blah, blah, she sees the
swimsuit and she just realizesit's me and that was her aha
moment.
Yeah, so I should let her tellthe story.
But she collapses Because sheknows it's me and it's hard, I'm
not saying that.

(16:34):
So she collapses and she can'tcommunicate.
This wasn't hard on me, it washard on everybody.
Yeah, but this is not justwasn't hard on me, it was hard
on everybody.
But she can't communicate.
I mean, she was a mess, I waslaughing and making jokes, she
was a mess.
So I love you, honey, but youwere a mess.
So she loses it and I thinkCallie, the other daughter, she

(16:58):
takes over the phone andcontinues to do that and then
she makes her way to me and, youknow, just crying, gets to me
and kisses me.
And then she makes her way tome and, uh, you know, just
crying, gets to me and gets me.
And I said it's, you know thattype of thing.
And just lean over me.
I said you know, babe, it'sgoing to be okay, it's going to
be all right.
You know, I'm really.
People say my kids and my family, I'm.
They always tease me and sayI'm, it could have been worse.

(17:18):
I'm always the it could havebeen worse.
I mean, if there's somethingwrong, it could have been worse.
They always Satser joke with me.
They always say it could havebeen worse.
So it's just, I don't want topat myself on the back.
It's just innate in me to dothat.
I mean it's a good quality.
But I don't know, maybe to afault, I just do that and I
could be laying there paralyzedand saying could be worse.

(17:43):
So Jen gets to me.
So I just feel bad for thatsituation.
I can't imagine that.

Brett (17:48):
You just imagine the collapse.
You see, it's your husband.
Now that I'm married, it's likethat's my biggest fear.
It's like, if anything happenedto me, how Allie would perceive
it.

Dave (17:58):
When we tell the story, jen's telling it to somebody in
the ward and sisters they allstart crying.
You know it's tough if you putyourself in that situation.
Yeah, so that happens.
And then she gets to me andthere's just some drama there.
I'm holding still and I'm doingthat.
I don't know how long thatperiod was for a while, and then

(18:18):
it's like Baywatch or what isthat show with the thing?
Oh yeah.
Baywatch the truck pulls up andthey're doing the doing, they're
doing the thing.
What's your call, wasn't there?
Oh yeah, david hasselhoff.

Brett (18:28):
That's good job.
Yeah, you know who that is.
I know some of those guys.

Dave (18:33):
Oh yeah, he was actually in the spongebob movie, yeah, so
um, yeah, I think some vehiclepulls up and their job was to do
.
They took over and they put meon a stretcher and to get me
almost a ways down to where thehelicopter could land, so yeah,
so they get me down to a certainlocation, get me on there.

(18:54):
I'll back up a little bit.
Here's another emotional thinghere.
So I'm there and of course youknow I wanted a blessing, as you
know.
But in the Church of JesusChrist of Latter-day Saints,
situations like this sometimeswe'd ask for a priesthood
blessing and it's a blessing ofhealing and faith.
And here I have my son, that'ssix days home from a mission, so

(19:20):
six days home from a mission,and I'm asking him to give him a
blessing on that situation.
So that was tough.
Yeah, there was a lot ofemotions.
Yeah, I mean yeah, that's that's, and it could have been worse.
That's heavy it worked, so he'sdoing that.
And then, uh, um, they get itover, get me over to the area

(19:42):
where the helicopter lands, sothey did call him the life
flight or whatever it's called.
And, um, it's just, you know,you can hear the helicopter, and
then it gets really real justthe noises and all that.
And they come on and they'rereally cool people there with a
home.

Brett (19:58):
Yeah.

Dave (19:59):
And they're jerking me around.
So I knew I did somethingreally bad and I remember I kept
saying they're jerking mearound on that stretch getting
me in there and I'm bouncingaround, I kept saying, hey, save
.
When I said, save what you got,case, hey, save what you got,
because my head was bouncingaround.
Yeah and that girl that was,there was two guys and a girl
and she's looking at me like, ohmy gosh, this guy is nuts.

Brett (20:17):
But I just was worried that she was going to paralyze
me well, I've always heard likeyou know, if someone hurts their
neck, you don't touch it.

Dave (20:23):
Yeah Well, they wouldn't touch me, but they would bounce
around.
My neck was bouncing, oh geez Ikept saying hey, hey, hey, safe
what you got.
Yeah, be careful.
You know, they probably thoughtit was nuts.
I think they had me stiff, butI was nervous, yeah.
So there you go, I get the freehelicopter right holy cow about
I think a half mile yeah, so Imean it was this?

(20:43):
is it went to la jolla yeahtrauma center?
I think it was yeah, la jollatrauma center and that's
literally encinitas probably be15 miles north of la jolla man.
So, um, I lucked out that,lucked out that trauma center
has the best neck surgeons inthe world some of the best there

(21:04):
, and one of them in particularwas one that worked on me, so
that part was good.
Yeah, that's another blessingright there yeah, it was so, and
I'll tell you what the injurywas here as we move forward.
Hopefully am I making this toolong and boring no, this is
great.

Brett (21:16):
I was going to ask you on your on your way to the stop me
when you need to ask yeah, onyour way to the hospital, when
you're in the helicopter, was itjust you, no family members, no
family members, and you musthave been fully conscious during
this time.
Oh yeah, like, have anythoughts.
Those are good questions, sonever unconscious.

Dave (21:34):
Yeah, so in the water.
Yeah, never took any salt waterand never freaked out.
So the whole time conscious,never went out.
Yeah, good question, never inpain.
Unconscious, never went out.
Yeah, a good question, never inpain.
But uh, a lot of I don't knowshock or a lot of, a lot of
emotions, a lot of uncertainty,yeah, like, yeah, it's going on,
you know, and it's a, it's a,it's a freaky thing you know to

(21:55):
do that.
I can't imagine so it's just andit's just.
You know, when you think backnow, it's just surreal as you
play it through your mind.
So, anyway, so the little man,the copter, so yeah, no it.
You imagine it's pretty tight.
It's not like getting anambulance, you know.
So it was the two, threeprofessionals and the one
driving the helicopter, flyingthe helicopter, driving, yeah,
so, uh, they do that and theytake off and it literally was a

(22:17):
short ride, um, and they get meover there and you know, they're
doing their thing and they,they get in there and the doctor
comes in and I'm in therewaiting and there's sand all
over me because we're on thebeach and I'm trying to get the
sand all off me.
So the next thing to do is theysee if it's complete or

(22:38):
incomplete.
They don't know.
I mean, I'm paralyzed, but whenyou mess with the spine like
that, the effect is beingparalyzed.

Brett (22:45):
So they don't know if it's complete, or you get some
back, or whatever.

Dave (22:48):
So they do a test and they go down by your bum and they
can check things there and ifthere's a contraction or thing
like that, then they'll knowit's incomplete because, then
there's a reaction or what's areflex.

Brett (23:04):
Yeah, yeah.

Dave (23:05):
I'm probably not saying the right word, but something,
something happens, yeah, so,yeah, so I wasn't.
So that was good news.
Yeah, this is what the doctorsaid I'm going to get real
personal with your husband.
And then I should have justsaid that the doctor was going
to get real personal with me andsee if I'm complete or
incomplete.
So so the good news was, as Iwas I can't believe, I just said

(23:27):
that on the air here but, um,it was incomplete, which is good
, um, uh, but it looked like atrain wreck in there.
So what I didn't did, as Ididn't break my neck, the action
snapped my neck back and itpinched the spine close.
So that's what happened, wowokay, so I had pictures of it.
Then you can show it and it's,you know, you can see like in an
x-ray.
You can see the small.

(23:47):
It looks like a road with aline on it and then it's just
pinched closed and there's justa real small area there that
there's just a little bit openthere and that's the brain now
has to work through that smallerand signals to everything.
Yeah, so then that's why youknow the chasm at the time is
paralyzed.
And then your body is amazingwhat it does in healing and it's

(24:11):
very resourceful.

Brett (24:12):
Yeah.

Dave (24:14):
You know I've learned that in therapy, but at the time it
was just good news there.
At the first it was incomplete.
So then I stayed at the LohaHospital hospital I'll kind of
speed this up for 12 days andthey scheduled I think I had the
surgery like two or three dayslater.
The swelling or something hadto go down and they literally um

(24:36):
, went through the front hereand they, when they do that, um,
they cut here and then theyopen up so that I think it's
easier to get to the spinal cordand the discs that are there
and they put tracks in there orcages, um, to kind of it's like
there was a train wreck in thereand they just kind of fix it

(24:58):
into where and hopefullythere'll be some recovery.
Yeah, yeah, and so I asked aneurologist one time.
You're like you know, that getspinched, really the thing does
it just, does it kind of growback?
and he's like no, so it's, itjust gets pinched and it stays
there because it's a nerve,right, yeah, it just doesn't
grow back, it just stays pinchedand it tries to work through
that area and the fluid justfills in.

(25:18):
I guess I don't know that'scrazy, so weird, so, and there's
a lot, you know, there's stemcell and all that stuff.
I mean there's so many things,it's like it's overwhelming.

Brett (25:27):
Did you try the stem cells?

Dave (25:29):
No, I have a brother-in-law that told me I
should.
I mean, there's probably somany things you know that I in
your rehab and ask my wife youcould be doing.
I think I did really well,really well.
I'll get into that here in aminute.
Yeah, but then I kind ofplateaued out and stay there and
I'm kind of where I'm at now.

(25:49):
So 12 days there, massivesurgery, like I said, crashed
that party.
They stayed the five days andthey still continued to do the
things there.
But I'm sure it was kind ofhard because they're all worried
about you, yeah so they triedto continue to do what we're
doing and did that.
And then, you know, Jen stayedthere with me, so did the

(26:11):
surgery.
I mean it was crazy at the time.
We were literally moving fromUtah to Arizona, back to Arizona
, so we were going to do thattrip and come back to Arizona.
My wife was selling the housein Utah and I remember I was at
the hospital, we had to sign forthe house or whatever and I
couldn't move.
So I held the pen and the ladymoved the paper to do the

(26:32):
signature.
So it was that bad.
So surgery got that.
And then they did the ambulanceride from California because I
was going to check in and healthsouth, it's called, which is a
rehab there and right on theborder of mesa and gilbert okay,
so baseline, yeah, health southit's called something else now,

(26:53):
but all the way from california, yeah, that was an expensive
ambulance ride seven thousanddollars, I have all the the
figures there.

Brett (27:01):
Forty thousand for the helicopter yeah, yeah, so like I
think it was 6800 for theambulance ride.

Dave (27:06):
Yeah, holy cow.
Yeah, it was a long ride there,so they do that and then um 40
days in rehab.
So that was a an adventure.
I have new respect for pts andots.
They're amazing, the care and,uh, I still have a really good
relationship with Celeste, mymain person there, and she was

(27:28):
going to have me walk and I mean, that's when that video is she
starts crying.
She just she saw the momentwhen I was doing physical
therapy where she knew I wasgetting it.
She knew of my rotation of myhips and I was standing up like
those parallel bars there's sucha picture of that.
Yeah, and she knew at the momentthe way I was walking and she

(27:49):
couldn't get me out of it quickenough because she knew I'd be
able to do a walker and walk andso, sure enough, we do that and
she's trying not to cry and soI'm walking for the first time.
So there's just, it's amazing,yeah, it's 40 days of that, so I
had to learn how to walk again.
There's I'm missing so manythings, but there is uh a ton of
things there in that 40 days ofphysical therapy, um, that you

(28:11):
learn a lot, I mean you're.
I mentioned uncertainty.
I still don't know.
You know how, what, how I'mgonna, what's gonna become?
Uh, am I gonna be in awheelchair, am I gonna be able
to walk, and so, um, but I canhonestly say you know, jan, poor
Jan, she's coming here tryingto run her deal, her dealership,
her business that she'd movedto Arizona, that she was working

(28:33):
from, from Utah, still keep mycar dealership going.
So I had a car dealership thatwas moving to Arizona, arizona,
yeah, trying to keep that active, and her plate was to say it
was super full yeah, it wascrazy man, it's respect to the
wives and straight and stressedover that.
I don't know how she did it.

Brett (28:50):
I mean prayers, yeah yeah , it sounds like you.
You honestly had help from theother side.
100, yeah there was.

Dave (28:57):
We had our old warden in utah praying for us and our new
warden, gilbert.
And when I say thousands ofprayers, thousands of prayers,
and when you say that it's easyto say that, but then you really
feel thousands of prayers,there's that many people praying
for you, there is a noticeablepresence and faith, and I'm a

(29:20):
positive guy, but I could feelthat for sure, for sure.
And I have a friend, reggie.
I could feel that for sure, forsure.
And, um, I have a friend Reggie.
Uh, I told you about him, butanyway, he, he came to visit me
and he's like yeah, exactly Onsome runs.
Uh, he came and he said likeyou're acting like the mayor of
uh of the uh of the clinic there.

(29:40):
I was just uh, uh, um, it'sgoing to be okay, type guy in
there.
I very, very positive and uh,uh, not because I'm a great guy,
it's just, it's just cause whatwe know, you know, that's what
we do and I think whether ourupbringing, uh in the church and
some of the faith and some ofthe principles we have it makes
it not easy but easier to handlehard things Absolutely.

(30:06):
I think we know that somebodyhas always had it harder than us
, so that puts things inperspective.
And so if he didn't, well, forexample, there was a gal and I
think the nurse is just like howare you so positive?
I don't mean to brag aboutmyself, but I say that, but I'm

(30:27):
contributing that to ourupbringing.
I say our, because you have hada similar one our upbringing.
I know I'm a positive person,but I'm grateful for what I've
learned.
That helps in those scenarios.

Brett (30:41):
Does that make sense?
Absolutely, I mean, I think, inin all difficult situations
I've been through and nothing toyour extent, but I've had to
rely on faith and I've had torely on God and, um, trust that
whatever happens is is going tomake me better.
And it might, you know, bedifficult going through it, but
you know, at the end of the day,I know that I'm going to be

(31:02):
refined.
Um, yeah, I mean, I can'timagine what, you know, going
through 40 days of therapy waslike and that kind of thing, how
to walk um, learning how towalk again, like, like you said,
like there must have been somuch uncertainty yeah, um, I
mean maybe discouragement, andwell, I'll talk about that.

Dave (31:21):
Yeah, like, how'd you get going'll talk about that.
Yeah, how'd you get going?
We talk about that.
And I start, I think back andthink how many days did we, my
wife and I, talk and say youknow, this sucks?
I can honestly tell you,probably twice.

Brett (31:35):
Really yeah.

Dave (31:36):
Out of all that.
That's what I mean.
There was maybe one cry sessionlike this is not the plan.
It wasn't the plan, but it wasmore, like this is not the plan.
It wasn't the plan, but it wasmore, and this is your show.
It was roll up your sleeves andget after it, and that's all I
knew and my mind was I'm notgoing to be this fat guy in a

(31:57):
wheelchair.
So now I'm just not in awheelchair, I'm the fat guy.
That was a joke, anyway.
So I told myself you know and Ithink the dealership was some
motivation there, and I justremember I was, you know, I'm
finding my dealership to do iton what's it called the GPS or
Google Maps.
I'm finding the dealership andthe zoning, all on the go.
I can't go drive anywhere.

(32:18):
So anyway, I was reallymotivated, but the 40 days in
there, sorry, I'm gonna.
I'm gonna back up here a littlebit, but I was talking about
the church and the faith andwhat it does.
But like five doors south of me, where my room was, um, there
was a gal that she'd been shot.
There was a man a fight withher husband and some alcohol but

(32:42):
he shot, but I think it wascomplete, um, wherever it did,
but it paralyzed her yeah and Iremember they asked me would you
go visit with her?
you know, with the positivity,and I did, and of course her
situation was melamorgalom, butthe feeling when you go in there
, um, it's just harder andthere's just no faith in the

(33:04):
sadness, you know, and I said,are you spiritual?
And she goes, I haven't been, Isaid she's like I better start,
and anyway, but it was just um,just a recognizable difference,
you know, and so those thingsI'm, I'm grateful for, not just
there but in life yeah,absolutely that they do um help.
I earlier you mentioned there.

(33:25):
It's one of those things I sayI'm a fixer, you know, with my
kids or something, I always feellike I can fix it, I can fix it
, and then some things in lifeare just bigger than what we can
do you can't fix it and that'swhen you have to turn it over to
him.
The father and this was one ofthem, so you know, when you're
40 days in there, brett you'remy wife goes home at 11 o'clock
at night and starts her day andshe's got to make that 12-mile

(33:47):
drive back to Gilbert from thereand oh, I just can't imagine
and I'm laying there in thathospital bed.
There's just so much time tothink.

Brett (33:55):
I can't imagine that your perspective changes in life.

Dave (33:59):
It definitely changed me.
I hope I'm a better man from it.
But yeah, me I.
I hope I'm a better man from it.
But yeah, your perspective onthings changes.
It definitely does.
My wife is amazing through itall.
It's not my journey, it's ourjourney.
What happened so um 40 daysthere?
Um, just the crew there wasamazing.
But everything I had to learnhow to eat, that's the you know

(34:21):
um occupational therapy you know, I have videos that are just
crazy.
But I think back and look at itand I'm like, wow, I did that.
I couldn't do this, you know,type of thing.

Brett (34:32):
That's got to make you feel good.
It does.
I've seen the progress from theAmerican.

Dave (34:35):
I can sit there and I can do both.
I'm like I ain't got to go tothe gym more Because when I
raise, well, that arm goes upand I'm gonna raise here, it
gets really tight right here.
So, here here, and then likethe hip flexors, it that,
whatever happens neurologically,attacks those areas.
So, like the muscle to liftyour leg up, like it's take to
lift up, yeah, that muscle, thehip flexor abductor, that right

(34:57):
there, it's just attacks, it'sweak, it's so weakened and if
you don't work at it, literallythis right here, it's just.
I have a picture at swim pooland I'm grabbing one of the
grandkids and it's just sunk inright there.
Not that I was big before, butthat muscle that's there, just
just.
Uh, you can say atrophy orwhatever but it was only 40 days

(35:18):
.

Brett (35:18):
I think it's just anyway, that muscle just goes away yeah
it's crazy, that's yeah, yeah,it's, it's crazy, but so at this
time, like therapy, was that'syour full-time job.

Dave (35:28):
It's like I gotta get better I gotta, I gotta focus on
what I can do to I'm proud ofwhat I did, but I you can always
do more, you know and get afterand go to the gym, and I didn't
do that.
I kind of plateaued out.
And still today I can do more.
Ask my wife.

Brett (35:42):
We all can.
Let's be honest.

Dave (35:44):
And I could because you know I'm 63.
So you know what does 73 looklike?
Because I move like I'm 73.
So I got to ask myself in 10years how bad it will be.
But if I get after it and dothings, I will counter what.
Because I'm behind the eightball because of this injury.

Brett (36:04):
So I want to serve a mission, so there's things I
need to do to help that.
Be around for the grandkids,that kind of stuff, you know.
Yeah, exactly, yeah, I mean isthere?
Is there still pain, like whenyou're going through?

Dave (36:14):
the therapy.
You ask all the right questions.
So like is there pain today?
No, when you say pain, painit's not like an ouch pain, it's
a uh, more like yeah.
So I can give you an example.
Give you an example like todaythis is what I have when I don't
have my tram at all for fourdays.
I realize how bad it is becauseit's like tram was like a

(36:34):
band-aid and I and if people arelike you know it's addictive
I'm like hello what else am Igonna do?

Brett (36:40):
you give me some homoepathic medicine.

Dave (36:42):
I'll take it.
So, um, but yeah, I don't takeit.
For you know, I say themedicine doesn't come in.
I'm four days without it.
I notice that it's a differenceand I can still walk, but it's
painful.
So what happens is like if youever is your leg ever fallen
asleep where it's just so heavy,you can walk and it's just like
pins and needles and yeah, it'sthe worst, so it's like that,

(37:03):
okay, so that's what my pain is,that's you kind of get used to
it.
Yeah, that's what the legs feellike.
So the injury it's not complete, but they're.
They're numb all the time, ohman.
So the medicine kind of takesthe edge off, but they're just
heavy, they just feel like theyweigh 100 pounds.
Yeah, so you're, that's what Iwas saying earlier.
Your body's I mean your bodyadjusts and adapts how to walk

(37:24):
on those heavy legs.
My left leg's stronger, soyou'll see me walk.
The left leg boom takes a step.
The right one you know how theytalk that drag foot.
You know you have to pick upbecause that's the heavy leg and
so I kind of slide it, but Ishould lift it up more, but it's
that kind of stuff that's sointeresting that happens just
from that one injury, yeah.

(37:45):
Different sides of the injury.
Yeah, different, very much bodyand, yeah, very much like a
stroke.
Yeah, the injuries, they put mein the stroke unit.
But the symptoms, you know, theneurological stuff, it would
appear like I had a wow, yeah,ish, that type thing, but
different injury, um, did youever know?
Um, maybe you know this guy, oh, what's his last name?
Rotten rising power.
Rotten Risen Howard.
He played baseball, pitchedbaseball, but he was up in Utah

(38:08):
and he was in a rail and it spunand he had a brain injury.
I don't think so.
I don't know, oh, probably not,but he's your guy's age.
But anyway, he got injured andhe came, he was with me.
Oh, wow, and same type of thing.
It's a miracle story here, butanyway, I thought you might you

(38:32):
know, but he was in there withme anyway.
So, um, so, yeah, back to what Iwas saying.
Probably, I'm probably gettingoff on tangents here.
40 days in there gives you alot of time to think.
Um, perspective changes and I'mgrateful for that.
But then, finally, after the 40days time to come home and that
was a, you know, these aremilestones you come home and
still need a lot of care.
Again, my wife, she's mycaretaker, so she's working
full-time job keeping thedealership going dude, so many

(38:53):
hats, and then now she's goingto be my caretaker at home.
When I say caretaker, I meanthere's a lot of work, yeah,
required for me.
You know, at the very beginning, at the first, not now, not
today, but um, well, she mightpick up one of my dishes, take
it to the sink, yeah, but I didthat before man so I mean,
that's that's got to besomething that, yeah, I can't

(39:15):
imagine that not bringing youguys so much closer though yeah,
at the time we never fought,but it was a lot.
There was some tears there.
But I think you, when you're init, you don't, you just do it.
And then when you after youlook at like, wow, you know, how
do we get through that?
Yeah, but when you're in it,you just do, you know you just
get after it, oh please, yeah,what's it called again?

Brett (39:36):
name of the podcast getting after it, after it yeah,
exactly so.

Dave (39:40):
Um that so came home, required a lot of care, but the
swimming pool was huge.
So therapy I mean, you're inthe pool walking, can't fall,
fall into what?
The water?
Yeah, that's true, I literally.
I got home about the time ofthe summers there and I got in
that pool every day and walkedand walked and I think that got
me to the dealership faster.

(40:01):
So my goal was to get back tothe dealership.

Brett (40:05):
How long were your therapy sessions on your own
like, was it?

Dave (40:07):
um well I did it good, good point.
I did it, um, for the 40 daysthere and they would take you
like three times a day and goand with it.
But then I went back a fewtimes it, but I didn't go back
much.
I probably should went backmore after I left, went back and
then I kind of justself-therapied the pool and did
things.
A friend from high school cameand built me like a balance bar,

(40:29):
like a ballet bar, oh, yeah.
Did that and Kenny Kelly I'llmention his name Anyway just
kind of got after it and gotpretty close.
I mean I did do a lot more thenthan, but got to you kind of
plateau.
Plateau out to a certain levelthere, but back to um getting to

(40:50):
work and stuff.
And you just get better everyday, realize I could drive and
doing things, you know, always.
I remember when I had thislittle smart car and it was the
first car I drove and I got alittle emotional because I'm
like, okay, cool, I can drive.
You know these little thingslike.
And then I I was with mason andI wanted to drive that little
five speed.
He's like you can't drive.
I put the walker in the backand let's go.
When I drove it, some thingsdon't go away.

(41:11):
Yeah, you know it might look alittle awkward, but you can
still got it.
So driving is good, yeah, so youknow people get nervous like
that right foot gas to breakmight be a little slow when
people have their right with mea little, I'm just like, is that
?

Brett (41:24):
foot gonna get over there I know well, I know how slow it
is, but I could see how yeah, Icould see how nervous they were
my brother was just doing thattoday anyway.

Dave (41:32):
So, um, yeah, so home and the swimming pool, and I got
after it and started gettingthat and got back to the
dealership and guess what, abouta year later, covet hit.
So I shut that down so, um, soyeah, that was pretty much it as
far as the injury.
You probably have somequestions on that, but um, that
was the story there and thenwent, you know, back to the

(41:56):
dealership and and got goingthere and then covet hit and
then uh, kind of closed thatdown and so, just so you know
today, um, I wanted to know whatI was going to do with this
injury.
You know I still move aroundbut there's a lot of jobs I
can't do.
Um, the dealership was tough,you know, because there was a
hustler out there moving aroundwalking around on the sales
floor and I can, oh, yeah, orthe auction.

(42:17):
You go on your wow, you gotthere I was.
You know, prior to that I wasalways hopping just around doing
that, but you, but you can't,you know, so it was hard.
Uh, covid almost was a blessing, because it couldn't keep up
and we knew it was going to shutdown.
It kind of answered thequestion there.

Brett (42:32):
So, uh, we lost the business during COVID too, my
brothers and I.
So, yeah, I mean, it was arough time for sure.

Dave (42:40):
So then it forces you into hard things.
What am I going to do?
So I started Ubering in betweenthere it was beating the car
off.
I'm like, what am I going to do?
And then Hayden, my son.
He was doing the job I'm at now.
It's called Select Quote andit's Medicare health insurance.
Oh nice, yeah, and they provideall the leads for you.

(43:01):
So you have to go get your lifeinsurance and health insurance
mainly Okay, you go test and youget that, and so you work for
them.
So I've been there three, goingon four years now, and he's
been there a year before me andhe kills it.
He's a total stud.
So that's why I saw the moneyhe's making.
I'm like, hmm, I could do that.

(43:25):
Sure enough I mean going to makeit here.
They're teasing me, but sureenough, I passed them and did
really well, so you just I lovethat you put your mind to it.

Brett (43:29):
Yeah, I was in there, bring out the old car.
Yeah, there was a team.

Dave (43:32):
there was a.
I started there and you know, Igot the job.
I interviewed and I knew Icould do sales, so I got the job
and they hire and they have anonboarding person.
You need to go get your licenseand do this or do that.
But I was intimidated.
I knew I was going to beworking the training team class.

(43:53):
It was all on Zoom, so therewas probably 80 or 90 of us in
the class and you have 10.
And there was a bunch of30-year-olds and I'm like you
know, they're tech things, I'mold, I'm like, oh my gosh, and
you know they teased me.
I was, but I mean, as soon aswe got out, I I surpassed and
went to level one and and not tobrag, but I just I want to
prove to myself that yeah, yeahand so then I was laughing at

(44:17):
that yeah, there you go.

Brett (44:18):
Yeah, you guys are the dust right, yeah, so it.

Dave (44:21):
It ended up being just a good job and still is.
I'm grateful I can pay thebills and do that.
I'm just grateful for it.
I mean, I get to work acrossthe hall in my jammies to go to
work.

Brett (44:32):
That's pretty nice, that is pretty nice yeah.

Dave (44:34):
So that works out.
So I'm blessed that happenedthere and there's so much more
leaving out there.
But yeah, I mean, that was kindof in a nutshell what happened
there.

Brett (44:47):
It's amazing.
I mean that is a wild story.

Dave (44:51):
Yeah.
But, we can do hard thingsthough.
We can do hard things, yeah, wedefinitely can.

Brett (44:57):
That's one that you know is incredibly difficult.
Like that's something I thinkabout, and I've I've talked to
people who have had injuriesthat are similar to yours.
Like I've I've had, um, uh, aperson named Rob Jones on this
podcast.
He, he was a bomb technician inAfghanistan, wow, and so he was

(45:19):
the guy with the you know, themetal detector in front of the.
Humvees and everything.
And one day he stepped on anIED and he actually came on this
podcast and talked about hisstory.

Dave (45:29):
How do you find these people?
Do they get referred orsomething?

Brett (45:33):
I looked him.
He's actually one of Jocko'sfriends and so, because of that,
I just reached out to theirentire team and I was like, hey,
would anyone want to be on him?
Pretty much so because of that,like, I just reached out to
their entire team and it waslike, hey, is it, would anyone
want to be on?
Pretty much so, um, but the wayhe, uh, I remember him.
The most impactful thing fromhis story that he told me was he

(45:54):
tells a story like he lost bothhis legs, um, above the knee,
and he had this moment where hewas in the hospital and his mom
was on his way to, or on her wayto, come and see him.
It was the first time that shewas going to see him and he's
like I don't want her to see melike this, like I look terrible.
And so he's like talking to thenurses and he goes do you guys
have a funny hat?
Like a random, weird hat oranything like that and um, they

(46:16):
found some pirate hat in in thein the hospital and they're like
why do you want?
You want this.
And and he pretty much lookedat them and was like.
You know, I either have theopportunity to make the most of
this, or to give in and become.

Dave (46:33):
You know, lieutenant dan from forrest gump and just get
it.
Dan yeah, lieutenant, dan um mywife's name, jenny that's
pretty good.

Brett (46:37):
You got a good impression actually jen's.

Dave (46:39):
My wife has never seen that show.
I'm like what?

Brett (46:42):
really yeah, but you know , I mean we might have to have a
movie night a date night?
I'm not a smart man, jenny butI know what love is that's
pretty good.

Dave (46:50):
Actually, I have a track to see in here.

Brett (46:51):
Yeah, that's good.
But I just remember that partof the story and how he pretty
much just came to the conclusionthat he has two ways to go
about this.
Wow collusion, that he has twoways to go about this.
Wow, you know, he could be thevictim or he could.
Yeah, that's amazing, yeah.
And the story after that iswild because he went on to be um

(47:12):
, a bronze medalist inParalympic rowing, and then he
biked across America to raisemoney for veterans.
And then the craziest one is helike I don't even think I could
do this, as he ran 31 marathonsin 31 days, um on prosthetics
and the stories he told aboutthat were wild.
But, um, I mean, it sounds likeyou had a very similar mindset.

Dave (47:28):
Well, it's in our mindset maybe not experience, but I like
that.
You said that the mindset isyou're going to get after it.
Yeah, it's a, it's a mindset.
You know, I could have feltsorry for myself and uh, like a
whole home and sorry for myselfbut it's not my nature.
I contribute to.
I'm grateful that it's in me,but I'm grateful my upbringing

(47:52):
in the church and just thingsways that I've been taught and
that it helps yeah, I mean andfriends and family.
You know there's so many helpsthere that you get after it all
right.
It's easier to.
That's just the thing to doyeah, you know, I'm literally
cried and said this sucks forone hour, you know, and and then
rope your sleeves, yeah, andsee what you can do.

Brett (48:14):
But yeah, um, that is one thing I'd love to hear about is
is kind of your experience withum, with with God, during that
time with what with GodInteresting, Um, and yeah, I
mean with whatever you'recomfortable sharing.

Dave (48:29):
No, yeah, cause I know it's probably very spiritual.
I considered I served a mission.
I consider it myself to be aspiritual person.
I've made a lot of mistakes inmy life a lot, brett but um, um,
it changed me in a way, thatthat perspective, you, you think
of things in more of an eternalperspective.

(48:51):
When that happens, uh, you know, like I said, with the
uncertainty, it it forces you toto relook at things.
You know, I, I'm sure when youthought, yeah, this is it, I'm,
I'm gonna die here.
Yeah, here, you know, floatingthere, nobody knows I'm here and
I have a another minute herebefore I start freaking out and

(49:11):
it's too late, you know, I mean,I would that had to be right
around the corner.

Brett (49:14):
Yeah, that's without carlos, you know that's another
thing.

Dave (49:17):
Let's talk about carlos for a minute.
But without carlos you knowit's right there what would have
happened?
You know it should have, couldhave, would have, but it is what
it is.
So you know, and I rememberCarlos come to the hospital and
I just wanted to talk to him.
I'm like Carlos, why?
What?
You know I think he has a hardtime answering the question.
I'm like you know, I wanted toknow.

(49:38):
How did you know what's goingon?
And you, how did you knowwhat's going on?
Whenever?
I still to this day, when I askhim, he gets a little emotional
and a little tear in his eye.
He's very quiet, very humbleabout it.
He's a good guy.
I'm grateful that he lived sucha life that he was in tune to

(50:01):
be, inspired.

Brett (50:02):
Not to take the wave.

Dave (50:03):
Imagine if not I'm not here today, right, so um you
know, I'm grateful carlos,thanks for living right yeah,
yeah, we, we joke.
We say he's my new favoriteson-in-law, they're all my
favorites I love him to death,but he's a he's a special guy.
He definitely saved my life.
So but that the the family overthis.
They all mean so much to me indifferent ways.

(50:25):
They were all such team playersin this situation and came to
aid for me.
There's no doubt I haddifferent experiences and I
remember Hayden was young, so hekept asking one of the other
brother-in-laws.
He was like my dad can be okay,my dad can be okay.
So he kept asking one of theother brother-in-laws and he's
like my dad can be okay, my dadcan be okay, so he's nervous and

(50:47):
I just can't imagine what itwas like for them as well you
know, and for me.
So it was a game changer.

Brett (50:55):
Did that run through your head, like when you're in
therapy and everything, and youknow everyone's worried about
you and they want to make surethat you're going to be okay,
like like they're all asking didyou think about them and was
that like motivation for you to,you know, roll up your sleeves
a little bit more?

Dave (51:17):
And no, not really.
I didn't.
That's a good question, but no,not, I wouldn't say that's
that's a dishonest answer.
I didn't.
That didn't drive me.
It was more um, well, I don'tknow if there's pride there.
I do want to get better.
I mean there's a little bitthere, but it was mainly just

(51:37):
get.
After that.
It's hard to define really whenyou're in there.
I'll tell you a story.
It's hard to define how you doit.
All I know is there was so muchtime to think.
You asked the question earlier.
What was your relationship withGod?
It changed there.
I felt like I was going tochurch and like that and a
spiritual person, and I thinkI'm so much better now.

(51:59):
But I just think I process itdifferently.
yeah, I think so spiritualthings right.
I maybe I'm grateful more.
I don't know, but I just thinkI process it differently.
Yeah, I think so Spiritualthings Right.
Maybe I'm grateful more aboutcertain things, and I hope that
shows in me as a father, as agrandfather and I hope so.
I know, I can only ask otherpeople.

Brett (52:16):
I mean from my experience just talking to you and hearing
your story and understanding.
I think that is the case.
It seems like you're a verygrateful person.

Dave (52:26):
I hope that it does change and I hope it does.
I was going to say something toyou with it.
What were you starting to talkabout?

Brett (52:32):
I lost my train of thought, it's okay, it happens a
lot on the podcast.

Dave (52:35):
Yeah, there was probably so many different things there,
but I was going to say somethingabout that, yeah, but anyway,
um, yeah it.
Oh gosh, it's kind of ready tocome back to me.
But I was laughing.
You said sometimes you justhave to the guy that says
where's the hat, or whatever.
So, same way, I was telling yousome things when I first showed

(52:55):
up here, you do have to kind ofmake fun of yourself and have
fun.
My grandkids, you know, mygrandkids all don't know me, as
when this accident happened, youknow it was oh how many years
ago.

Brett (53:11):
it was eight years ago and the oldest one the oldest
one is is 16.

Dave (53:16):
Okay, so most of them don't know me, but with this,
you know, and there's 16grandkids today, so they only
know me as this.
Um, but uh, one thing that myhand does, I'll put it to the
camera here.
So look see if I can get theright angle.
But I go like this so you cansee it flipping right there.
That's called clonus and I callit my flipper whoo it is going

(53:37):
to town right now, so look atthe more I do it's performing
camera.

Brett (53:41):
Yeah, look at it, it is performing check.

Dave (53:43):
Check it out.
I always tell people can youflip your hand that fast?

Brett (53:46):
I don't think I can.

Dave (53:48):
It's just one thing in life.

Brett (53:49):
There, you go.

Dave (53:50):
I'm the fastest flipper in the world You're the fastest
flipper.
So I tell my grandkids thatit's like Finding Nemo, my
little flipper.

Brett (53:57):
Oh yeah.

Dave (54:04):
Finding Nemo, that.
So you gotta work stuff.
You got.
You know disneyland, I get thereturn pass all the time.
You know you, that's, you wereyeah, I mean, I would break my
neck to do that so you get.
You get the return.
You gotta take the positives inlife, that's right.
Uh, so no, it's good and I I'mgrateful.
It's uh, so much happened.
Now that I just I look at mylife in retrospect and and see
the things and um, uh, I don'tfeel, uh, I, I live my life in

(54:31):
such a way previously where Imade a lot of mistakes, I don't
feel like God was punishing meever.
This is pretty deep.
I don't ever feel like God waspunishing me, but I do think he
was trying to teach me something.
Um, I won't get too much detailthere, but um, with everything
that happened and previously inmy life, I just feel like the

(54:52):
accident was an opportunity forhim to teach me something,
because previously, yearspreviously, kind of a stubborn
guy in some things scenarios notstubborn, just clueless, yeah,
but an opportunity to teach meand hopefully I responded well
to it and I think that's.
You know, you've probablyshaken me like Dave, come on,

(55:15):
let me slap you around here.

Brett (55:16):
So what are perspectives?
Yeah, that's amazing.

Dave (55:20):
Yeah, so it's good.
I mean, you tell me about yourguy with the legs and stuff and
I think, wow, I didn't doanything like that, but it's the
same.
What'd you say?
The same idea or the same?

Brett (55:33):
just the mindset, mindset of you know what I well my legs
offering, but the mindset's thesame.
Yeah, I mean, if that happened.

Dave (55:45):
yeah, it's a blessing that you know you're still here like
, like you said, there's minutesfrom you know what could have
been something way different.
Yeah, I love my life.
I'm glad to hear I never feelsorry for myself.
You know, sometimes I askmyself like I'll get, like I
will drop a pencil and I drop ittwice.
And I get frustrated withthings like that, like because
my motor skills in my right handare my, where my flipper is.
Yeah, my motor sounds.
Sometimes you're like like, uh,tying a button, I tend to.

(56:08):
I have this cool little puller,that, but so still, stuff like
that motor skills is hard.
I don't feel very much.
So there's not much there.
So, uh, little things like thatand I drop and I can't pick.
I get frustrated like, ah, youknow, that's.
That's about the extent of mybeing angry about it.
So it's like just things you gotto deal with.
And they're so minute, so stufflike that, but other than that

(56:30):
it's golden.
I'm lucky.
Yeah.

Brett (56:33):
I think it's amazing and, like from your story, you're
very driven to one get better,to be like, driven to have a
positive mindset, which I thinkis incredibly difficult,
especially with a situation likethis.
I can't imagine going throughsomething like that.

Dave (56:51):
I like the line where you can do hard things.
We were just listening to someconference talks.
I can't remember who it was, Ithink it was President Nelson.
The subject was we can do hardthings, yeah, and we can do hard
things, yeah, and we can.
And it's you really can whenyou're faced with this situation
.
You know, but prior to that, tome, to open up a car dealership

(57:14):
, it's a hard thing to do that,or hard to go through and jump
through the hoops to do it Right.
So there's my wife, like Dave,when you want something you get
after it, you can do hard things.
Wife, like dave, when you wantsomething you get after you can
do hard things, you can do that.
So this one's, you know, alittle more forced, but you can.
You can do hard things and Ithink in life we can all do hard
things.
Whatever that hard.
What it might be hard to someperson might not be hard to
somebody, but it is hard to thatperson.

Brett (57:34):
Yeah, it's relative for everyone, right, right, as long
as you're overcoming my wife andI.

Dave (57:39):
We love the word becoming.
Yeah, it's a huge word for us.
So, as long as you're makingthe right choices every day and
trying to become so much, thatwas learned from this thing.

Brett (57:52):
So you know, I get older now.

Dave (57:54):
It's a little bit easier to be good when you're older.

Brett (57:57):
Well, I sound weird, but yeah, I mean so.

Dave (58:01):
Life's good, I'm lucky.
I don't want to close this upwithout saying I'm grateful for
my wife one more time.
She's in some ways muchstronger than I am.
The things that she wentthrough.
I'd hate to have a rolereversal.
I wouldn't do as good.

Brett (58:19):
Well, I don't know if you've heard this quote, but I
firmly believe it.
Behind every strong man is astronger woman.

Dave (58:24):
Yeah.

Brett (58:25):
Or I say I married up?
Yeah, I for sure married up, soI totally understand that, but
yeah, I mean that's, that's anamazing story and I really
appreciate you sharing all thedetails and not holding back
because I think it's.
I mean, the reason I likehaving people on here is you
know if someone's going throughtheir own challenges or trials,

(58:47):
you know, think it's, um, I meanthe.
The reason I like having peopleon here is you know if, if
someone's going through theirown challenges or trials, you
know it's it's not the end, likethere's always something that
you could do to improve thesituation and mindset, like you
said.

Dave (58:58):
You called it mindset, yeah, and so, yeah, when, when I
saw the title of your, of yourshow here, I thought this is
good because it is one thatapplies to it.
It relates to that, so, andI've got some other things I'm
trying to do in life right nowtoo, so yeah, well, let's, let's
hear, yeah so I'll do my littleplug here.
Do it, please do because Idon't want to make it about that
, yeah, I mean, take all thetime you want.
No, no I'll just so.

(59:18):
I I love music and so it'sfunny how this came to be.

Brett (59:22):
I real quick I yeah real quick.
Who's uh favorite artists?
Yeah, that's a good one, heygood question we're talking
music here yeah, yeah, see, soI'm old and I still like some
cool people okay, so I'm let'ssee if we're the same, let's see
if we match my dad.

Dave (59:37):
He's uh, he's like he's 63 so I can play that game about
music and say that I'm prettygood.
I'm pretty good, I know a lotof old stuff.
I go from beatles to bieber.
I mean I'm okay, I could go,you got a lot, yeah, and all in
between, all the genres, yeah.
So go ahead, throw something atme.
I just see prince prince purplerain oh yeah classic and purple

(01:00:00):
rains even the one you didn'tyou went to a good song.
Purple Rain's a good one, yeahthe video was on.

Brett (01:00:05):
Chopper oh yeah, that one's so good.

Dave (01:00:08):
Yeah, that's, that's my era, that's probably 84, that's
so good.
My dad saw Prince twice, butLionel Richie was hanging out at
that time so yeah, hello atthat time.

Brett (01:00:18):
Hello you ever listen to New Order those guys.
New Order um you ever listen tonew order?
Uh, new order, yeah, or not.
New order, uh, I, I'm gonna sayyou're I think I know you're
mixing two up.

Dave (01:00:29):
Uh, yeah, um, oh, you are, because I started to go through
it.

Brett (01:00:33):
Oh, man, yeah, because I know who you're saying.
Blue monday, that's one oftheir songs.
Oh, I can't think of who.
It is not duran dur Duran.
No, not Duran Duran, yeah.

Dave (01:00:45):
You have to give that a new order.

Brett (01:00:48):
Maybe it's not a new order.
My dad's going to hear it.
Okay, so here I'll be throwingone at you.

Dave (01:00:52):
Who sings.
Well, I'll say it like this Doyou like?
What's the title of it?
Promise, promise.
Oh yes, Another song, I'm sorrybut I'm just thinking about the
ride.
What was?

Brett (01:01:07):
it, it's not U2.
Classic.

Dave (01:01:09):
Yeah, it's when it Roamed.

Brett (01:01:11):
Yeah, there you go.
That's a good one.
That is a good one, good 80stune there everyone.
What about?
What if I said Brass Monkey,let's do a grew up on.

Dave (01:01:24):
See, that was all my dad's yeah, so we, that's a good one.
About reggie I told my friendyou're gonna get reggie haywood
on this show.
I'll say now, reggie haywood'scoming on this show.
All right, reggie, you're nextdude, I'll just give you a
little plug.
Uh, I went to, I'd go toseminary at mesa high school.
He, he always tell the story.
He looks at me like I'm soweird, I'm going to enter what
they call a period ceremony.

(01:01:45):
I'm going there.
His dad was a track coach, ohnice.
And he was always out thererunning beside the white Ford
Ranger just jogging.
So that's the clue in.
And so this guy was quite thetrack star.
All right.
So, I'll let him tell you thestory, but he might be in
Guinness Book of World Records,I don't know.
So anyway, wow, okay, a littletip there.

Brett (01:02:07):
Yeah, we might have to get him on, get him on the show.

Dave (01:02:08):
He definitely what's it called Getting after it Getting
after it.

Brett (01:02:13):
He's getting after it.

Dave (01:02:17):
I think the injury is.

Brett (01:02:18):
I mean get after it's more common than getting after,
so by neck injury you can blameit for things like when you get
old and you can't rememberthings.
You can just blame it on that.
There you go and they're likeoh, that poor guy.

Dave (01:02:30):
So, but I'm not remembering music though, so let
me throw one at you.

Brett (01:02:35):
I'll tell you a funny story Carmen Sunday.

Dave (01:02:40):
This is a true story.
Carmen came to church with uson Sunday.
She attended our ward over inthe newlywed nearly dead ward.
No, just kidding Over there atAlta Mesa.
And she just said she's goingto come to our ward and visited
Jenny.
So Jenny and her are dearfriends.
So she comes in and you know,Carmen, she's got her phone

(01:03:02):
there or whatever.
She's sitting there and I thinkit was before sacrament, but
she gets a call.

Brett (01:03:06):
I think I know this one, yeah she, she gets a call and it
goes off.
Yeah, men down under.
Yeah, men at work men at work.

Dave (01:03:13):
Yeah, that's what it is.
Who can it be now?
So who can it be now is playingon?
I just like I mean it got it.
Got the sax in it, yeah, oh,yeah, of course.
So, yeah, so that played.
And then the elders quorumpresident came right to us right
away after church is over andhe's like I mean, it's one thing
for your phone to go off, but,man, it worked.
That was a cool move.

(01:03:34):
And I was like, how did youhear that from him?
That's pretty good.
He's from Innova Sax.
So no, I love yeah.
So yeah, I'll kind of get to,unless you have any more trivial
.
You know you won't stump me.
So you, you can go study.
If you want to get back, Imight have to study.
We should have a trivia gameand, like have a panel you know
what actually?

Brett (01:03:54):
let's do it sometime, old guys and young guys yeah,
because we throw 60s, 70s.
You should throw yeah my, mydad and carmen.
We actually play this game withthem both all the time,
whenever we get together.

Dave (01:04:06):
Your dad is a music buff.
He's really good.
That'd be fun.

Brett (01:04:08):
He's on my team he's been to, like you know, led zeppelin
like all those guys he's, yeah,he was huge into.

Dave (01:04:15):
No, sorry, not zeppelin van halen, he would get mad at
me if I didn't say that betteryeah, but um, david lee, raw,
yeah, david lee, or off, we sayhe's, he's.

Brett (01:04:23):
He kind of looks like him a little bit yeah, um, yeah a
little bit, but maybe not he'dget mad at me, mick jagger's.
What I'm thinking of in highschool, which lips yeah that's
fun, um, but anyways, we playthis game where we would pick
songs from like the 80s, the 90s, um, some of the 70s and we'd
play phones as fast as we canlike the first note and yeah,
we'd see if they can get it.

(01:04:44):
And it's like instant they'llbe like that's awesome.
Yep, that's princess purplerain yeah, it's crazy.

Dave (01:04:48):
So there used to be a show called name that tune and they
would oh yeah, it was a gameshow.
And they would say they giveclues and say I can name that
song in three notes it was sosimilar that it was corny.

Brett (01:05:00):
yeah, anyways, anyways, back to your love of music.

Dave (01:05:02):
Sorry, Keep going.
No, it's okay, I like that.
We found this.
You can formulate some type ofshow.
That's right.
I'm really good at that.
But I will tell you.
There is one guy.
I'm telling you what's his name.
I'm just going to put a plug innow.
Maybe they'll watch his show.
It's my wife's friend WendyRandy.

(01:05:22):
It's my wife's friend, wendy.
She used to work with Jen andRandy.
This dude can call off any song.
Really, he's unstoppable.
I've never seen anybody.
He's on my team.
I mean this.
Anyway, he's like a computer,that's pretty good.

Brett (01:05:42):
Yeah, he's pretty good.

Dave (01:05:44):
He's got an index, so we anyway he's, he's like a
computer, that's pretty good.
Yeah, he's pretty good, sowe'll have to get him here.
So if he watches this show he's.
I've already told him thatbefore.
Yeah, that's fine, it's funnyyou have that like so.
So always have liked music,definitely like all kinds.
And uh, you know I'm old but II love, I think 60s music.
50s, 60s, late 50s, early 60swas the best music to have in
high school.
So american graffiti we wesearly 60s was the best music to
have in high school.
So American Graffiti we lostout.

(01:06:05):
That would have been the besttime to be in high school.
American Graffiti, that type ofdoo-wop the best in the world
in my opinion.
But I love the other music.
But that would have been a goodtime to be in high school, no
doubt about it.
So music is great.
I do love all kinds.
I think I started listening toharmonies not by Beatles but

(01:06:26):
Beach Boys.
I'm a big Beach Boy fan.

Brett (01:06:29):
Yeah, my dad growing up he played that all the time.
Sixth grade Great at harmonies.

Dave (01:06:34):
No headphones.
I've got two big speakers and Ilaid my head between them and I
would sing and I would take thealbum cover and I would sing
and I would dig like this withthe album cover and it would
make me have like a vibrato.
Oh wow, so that was how I gotmy vibrato.
Was the album cover?
Really, I can't believe I'mtelling this on the air.
So I would do the speakers, Ising the Beach Boys and I do
this with the album cover.
Man, I sounded great.

Brett (01:06:55):
Yeah, there you go.
That's awesome Vibrato, so itstarted for me sometime yeah.

Dave (01:07:01):
So, uh, anyway, my job, I some spit thing, I would run
some nice uh headphones thing,whatever.
And so, um, I started listeningto it at nighttime.
And then, one thing, let's doanother.
Late at night I'm listening to,um, not, I hate to say the word
karaoke, that's a swear word tome.

(01:07:26):
Yeah, karaoke, it's a swearword to a lot of people
Instrumental or minus tracks,minus tracks.
I started listening to minustrack songs and I would like in
bed my wife like honey shut up.
I'd be like, yeah, I sound likethat whisper, anyway.
So I would do that.
And just my mind startedformulating.
So now it is a year and a halflater.

(01:07:46):
It went from ooh, it'd be coolto just record some music.
Oh, I should buy this equipment.
So all the spiff money went,I'd buy some equipment, I'd buy
this.
So now, a year and a half later, I've got a little setup and
I'm not good yet, but I'm prettygood, I've learned.

Brett (01:08:01):
Just producing songs on your own?

Dave (01:08:03):
Yeah, just doing covers yeah, I've got a lot that I've
already done, but I'm gettingbetter.
Just tracks and how to dotracks and how to work.
There's so much more I canlearn, but I learn a lot.

Brett (01:08:14):
Did you grow up playing any instruments or anything?

Dave (01:08:15):
No, I mean, no, I sang.

Brett (01:08:19):
I gave up on the piano.
I wanted to play guitar starteda little bit here.

Dave (01:08:22):
But no, my boys they are, and Jen's kids I say stepkids.
Our family is musicallyinclined, they're all good.
So Hayden and Mason have somestuff on Spotify.
It's really cool, that'samazing yeah you can come on the
show and play that, yeah, butyeah, they have some good stuff
on Spotify.
But, yeah, they have some goodstuff on Spotify.

(01:08:43):
But yeah, they're very talented.
All of them are extremely.

Brett (01:08:49):
Oh, the music yeah.

Dave (01:08:50):
So I was doing that as formulating, learning things.
So ideas kept going andformulating.
So, gosh, I'll spare you allthe details.
Where I'm at today, I'm doing a.
It's called the daily dose show.
I actually just did a jingletonight before you know.
I'll play it for you beforeit's gone you can play.
So I'm going to it's 40 secondsyeah, why not?

(01:09:12):
Okay, so anyway.
So I'm gonna play it right now,yeah, it's a daily dose show.

Brett (01:09:17):
You want to hear it yeah, hold up to the microphone a
little bit so everyone can hearwe go until midnight all right,
it's only been an hour.

Dave (01:09:23):
Yeah, we can keep going.
I will shut it down here injust a minute if you're stay
tuned for another 10 minutesanother 10 minutes.

Brett (01:09:30):
We got this going.

Dave (01:09:31):
Yeah, now we're on, you gotta stay tuned now because
you're gonna hear the daily doseshow jingle guys.
This is live for the first timeever, played ever on this is
getting after it.
This is getting after it, yeahgetting after it live first time
premiere all right, right, herewe go stand by, stand by, I'm

(01:09:53):
ready, wait.
No, that's ret, that's you.

Brett (01:09:56):
You don't have it which, by the way, music that helps you
get after it.

Dave (01:09:59):
So that's right, it motivates me, it's fun and and I
gotta tell you what to do, butI'll play this for you.
Okay, what am I?
I'm challenged, here we go.
Are you ready?
Should I just put it into that?
Yeah, yeah, just hold it up,okay, all right, you ready for
this?
Here we go.
It's done, probably 10 minutesbefore I left the house.
All right, all right, all right, wait for it, wait for it.

(01:10:35):
Ooh, I'll give you 20 bucks ifyou can tell me the background
music.
I stole it from someoneprobably shouldn't say that to
them.
This is my music, that's thekey.
Oh man, my son got it in about5 minutes.

(01:11:03):
Really, I think I might havetold him he was ending.
My son got it in about Fiveminutes.
Really, I think I might havetold him it's the Daily Dough
Show.

Brett (01:11:10):
That was pretty good.

Dave (01:11:12):
I still have to add one more harmony.

Brett (01:11:14):
I liked it, so what I?

Dave (01:11:15):
just said, is the Daily Dough Show, don't you know?
So what?

Brett (01:11:18):
the.
Daily Dough Show is oh sorry,you gotta tell me what the song
was, because I I don't.

Dave (01:11:25):
It sounds so it's like a jingle oh yeah, so yeah, the one
you sampled.
That's a clue right there.
I wonder what that sounds likeon this podcast I don't know, so
give me, I'll give you a cluethis is a fun game right here.

Brett (01:11:45):
Yeah, this is back to music.

Dave (01:11:46):
Oh man, this is gonna give it away.

Brett (01:11:48):
Um, okay, you ready yeah, I might not get it, I don't
know.

Dave (01:11:51):
No, you will okay, you're living in a cave, if you don't
pack it up, pack it in okay,yeah, yeah, okay, it's the
background music that's prettygood down.

Brett (01:12:02):
No, it's not.
Yeah, yeah, jump around.
Yeah, it is okay.

Dave (01:12:05):
House of pain back to house of pain.
Yeah, there you go from irelandwhere I went on my mission.
Oh nice, yeah, so pack it up,pack it in let me begin, yeah,
so good, we should, we should goon tour we, we should why not,
daily dose show.

Brett (01:12:18):
So what is it?
What is it?

Dave (01:12:20):
you want your name to be in there too, if we go on tour.
The Daily Brett Show.

Brett (01:12:24):
No, anyway, I can just be , you know, a really small font
on there, the Daily.

Dave (01:12:30):
Dough Show is.
So my brother just told me onthe way over here tonight he was
all serious.
We went to Pete's and he's'slike dave, and he knew about
this daily show.
So so it's, uh, it's a platformfor.
I've went everywhere on this.
It's a platform for teenagers.
I put a limit from 14 to 18.

(01:12:52):
I'll tell you why I did that 14to 18 to do covers.
Okay, so they?
So it's a platform for fortheir music to be heard.
Yeah, I want them to learndifferent type of genres, like
our vast knowledge that we have.

Brett (01:13:06):
Yeah, yeah, I mean so like what type of genres you're
trying to think?
Soul music, like some pop or alittle.

Dave (01:13:13):
Yeah, well, I'm gonna let them just do their thing at
first yeah, then I'm to send asong that they have to do, you
know what I mean.
Then I'm going to let them dotheir thing and I'll play, so
they'll send.
So it's 14 to 18.
So the joke is, who's this oldguy with teenagers?
So I will say now, maybe I'llget my wife on the first couple

(01:13:34):
of shows, my wife on the firstcouple of shows.
Yeah, we'll have Jen there firstcouple of shows.
Yeah, I will never havesomebody over doing a cover
without my wife.
There men are male or femaleanyway, so yeah, that would be
weird, and so I'm not a creepyold guy.
It's the reason we did 14 days.
I'll see here and say here, sayit now.
The reason I did that age,because I started thinking about

(01:13:55):
it and it was hayden's idea.
Um, if I do this daily doseshow and people to do covers
with adults, guess what?
They're going to fade out inabout two weeks.
So then it's just not going tobecome a thing.
I think teenagers are going todig it and they're going to get
into it because they want to doa cover on TikTok or whatever.

Brett (01:14:12):
Yeah.

Dave (01:14:13):
So I want to be the guy that does the platform to
provide that.
You know, granted, I'm old, butI hope that I have enough
knowledge to work the equipment,have the equipment come in.
So what I want to do is, whenthey send me a silly cover on
their iphone and they're singinga song, they like morgan wallen
and they're singing it, blah,blah, blah, and they do it and

(01:14:33):
they send it to me, I take itand I put it on my tracks.
I just want to make it sound alittle bit better, so, and then
I want to play it back on thepodcast.
So I want to enhance it, yeah,yeah.
So I enhance it and play itback and I hope they like it.
But then, after the week ofthose let's say, there's 20
people that do that I'm givingyou a scenario yeah, 20 entries
came in and I played their songs.
I will pick one and winner thatwins a thousand dollars.

(01:15:05):
Okay, I lied on this thousanddollars a winner will get a free
t-shirt.
There we go.
So and it's not about, it'sreally not winning the free
t-shirts will really be prettycool but it's about having your
song replayed again?
yeah, and if it gets to a pointwhere fairly large, that'd be
cool.
You know, I would love it if itwas 200 people, that would be
cool, that people would actuallyget to be on that platform and
play their music and somebodycould do it.
And this is where you've got toteach me a lot of this stuff.
So I would imagine it wouldstill be stored on there and the

(01:15:29):
videos would be stored soanytime people could go to and
hear one of the videos orwhatever.
So the idea is it comes to me,I will take what I've learned
and try to enhance it and makeit sound better for them, cause
most people at 15 know how tosing, I think, but they don't
know how to do some of theequipment.
I mean.

Brett (01:15:48):
I like I used to make tons of movies when I was that
age and knew nothing aboutediting, and so if I had someone
doing that for me, like, hey,yeah, send me your videos, I'll
make them look really cool, likethat would be a game changer
for me that's a good analogy,yeah, with people with music
like you know it's.

Dave (01:16:04):
I don't know if I'm that good, but like good enough to
where they won't know thedifference and it'll sound good.

Brett (01:16:09):
I mean my niece she's 17, she sings songs all the time
and yeah um I'll send you someof the stuff I've done already
yeah, that'd be awesome recorded.

Dave (01:16:17):
It's my what I did find.
Man, this show is gonna be longand I'm so sorry no, this is
great, I love it.
Uh, does this still have to dowith getting getting after it?

Brett (01:16:26):
yeah, I mean you're getting after still relate
absolutely getting after this100.

Dave (01:16:30):
Yeah, okay, um, uh.
What was I saying?
This?

Brett (01:16:36):
is about the platform itself and, oh yeah, the
platform I don't know what I wassaying.

Dave (01:16:41):
Oh my gosh, oh, um, is it live yet?
No, no, I'm about a month outbefore I will do this and, um, I
was trying to remember what Iwas saying, but anyway, the
songs come in.
I want to redo that, um, and II just wanted to be a fun where
it gets to be, where people knowto kids yeah, teenagers and and

(01:17:04):
it's a positive thing to dothey have fun doing it and it
just gets to be a thing yeah,you know, a thing where they.
You asked me who my favoriteartist.
I never didn't answer thatquestion.
It's true, I just said the wordthing.
Isn't it a thing?
Who's that?
man, you got who's that I justsang the first three lines,
isn't it a thing?
What's the next ones?
I could do plenty.

(01:17:24):
I have phases where I likepeople.

Brett (01:17:29):
What's the time?
I'll sing another one.
What's that Time frame?
When was this 19?

Dave (01:17:38):
He won on America's Got Talent, really Uh-huh.
I love to give you cluesamerica's got talent and he won.
I assume uh-huh, okay, when I'mthere, yeah, I think, yeah, I
think he did, and then, you know, I just find him.
And then all of a sudden, andhe did that song, I just sang
and he and he, um, he sang 10000 reasons.

(01:17:59):
No, not 10 000 reasons edsheeran no no, I love ed sheeran
, but no, oh man, it's uh calumscott.

Brett (01:18:07):
You know, that is I don't think I do actually.
I stumped you, you stumped meyeah, I'll send you something.
Yeah, you have to, he's got agood uh like baritone tenor
voice for that but he's got, sohe writes a lot of music and
it's so good it's a piano andjust just good stuff.

Dave (01:18:23):
Yeah, yeah, calum scott, you've probably heard some of
his music.
You just don't realize his name, do you know jake scott is?
No, I don't.
Oh, yeah, I mean I'm, I'm jakescott, and then I haven't
listened to him for a while.
But my daughter, I heard it inthe car one time and he's good.
I, I was all over him, but Ihaven't listened to him for a
while.
But anyway, yeah, caleb Scott,you know that's your homework
assignment for me to do isyou'll listen.

(01:18:44):
I'll send you some past Spotify.
Yeah, some of your favoriteones.
Yeah, so, but I'll just sayLewis Capoli, love him, he's
good.
Okay, and it's funny, I don'thave much of a range.
I can't go up there.
It's funny, you love the songsthat you can't sing.

(01:19:04):
So I've learned how to that onething I went to.
I learned how to lower the keyand higher the key.
So you'll find I'm not aprofessional but I've learned.
I see and my wife probablylaughs at me because she's very
music-linked music theory andall that stuff.
But I'll take a song and I I'velearned, I see and my wife
probably laughs at me becauseshe's very musically inclined
music theory and all that stuff,oh wow.
But I'll take a song and I'llraise it up, notes the key and

(01:19:25):
the level, and then I'll singunderneath it.
So the key is there, but I'msinging underneath it and it
sounds good.
So, like Bee Gees, I could singan octave underneath them.

Brett (01:19:35):
Oh, there you go.

Dave (01:19:36):
Because they're so high.

Brett (01:19:37):
Yeah, they have some Alvin and the Chimney voices
Because they're out there, right.

Dave (01:19:41):
So you can sing an octave under.
But that's an example.
Night Fever, that's a good one,yeah so.
But the thing is you can ifit's out of my range, you can
take it up two steps and singunderneath it and it's good,
because then it's right whereyou want to be.
So I play around with that likethat's awesome.

(01:20:01):
Yeah, just so, minus tracks.
I don't like the word.
What's this?

Brett (01:20:04):
word, word karaoke.
Yeah, you don't say, becausethen you think of karaoke, but
let's face it, I mean youtube,yeah I find everything there's a
reason why karaoke and barthose two words go together
because it's the only time theydo I hate the stigma with
karaoke.

Dave (01:20:17):
But you know, I find some of them and it a karaoke song
and it has the best sound.
But I like to do a lot ofinstrumental piano or guitar and
they're so good and they'reminus all the other instruments
but they're really chill andthey're good.
So a lot of that kind of stuff.
I'll send you over a couple ofthings, yeah please do.

Brett (01:20:35):
Yeah, and so it's fun.
Yeah, when you launch the DailyShow.
Where is it going to be Daily?

Dave (01:20:40):
Dose Show Daily Dose Show it's the.
Daily Dose Show.

Brett (01:20:44):
The Daily Show is something completely different.

Dave (01:20:47):
What did you say?

Brett (01:20:48):
I was saying, the Daily Dose or the Daily Show is
something completely different.
It's like a political show,that's D-A-I-L-Y yeah yeah, yeah
, yeah, I'll launch it.

Dave (01:20:56):
I'll probably need your help.

Brett (01:20:57):
I don't know if it's a launch.

Dave (01:20:59):
So is it a podcast?
Because let me tell you what Ido.
I'm not doing this.
Well, maybe Once in a while Imight have somebody that has
done music and I'll get them onthere.
I'll talk maybe for 20 minutes,but most of mine is getting on
the show and I've had threesongs in.
I'll get out, say hey, I've hadsome three and I'll talk about

(01:21:22):
it and I'll pay the play thesongs and play their videos and
talk about it.
Then I'm out and they'rerecorded.
So is that a podcast?
I mean, yeah, it's all duringthe week, so it's daily, or you
know, you're getting on thereand then the songs are, and then
I'm announcing but on thatsaturday there's probably it's I
might spend 20, so it'ssaturday to saturday and I might
spend 20 minutes on theretalking and who's the winner?

Brett (01:21:39):
and here's the free t-shirt, and then yeah, I mean,
the week starts all over, sothat's the idea.
If you put it on spotify or oranything like that, yeah, it'd
be, I'm gonna podcast.
I mean, there's lots of peoplewho have like solo podcasts and
okay, um, podcasts can be kindof whatever you want to be live.

Dave (01:21:54):
don't want to stream like that.
I definitely want to record soI can record, have some you, you
know, jammed up cause I getbusy, but you have some stuff in
there.
But yeah, excited about it,it's fun.
I didn't realize you were sucha music buff.
That's, that's really cool.
I love music, I mean yeah,that's really cool.
Also a earth, wind and fire,they're all there for me, like
my grandpa used to love thatstuff.

Brett (01:22:22):
Man, my grandpa, he was a uh, he was a uh, he was a
concert pianist and he, um, hewas going to have his own radio
show, um, but then he was aboutto have a kid and he's like I
don't think this is the life Iwant to have.
So, um, but I grew up hearinghim play.
And my dad, he's listened to somuch stuff like he loves
everything from you know, likeheavy metal to you know, to
super soul music, to kind ofeverything Gospel.

(01:22:45):
He loves it all I do too.

Dave (01:22:47):
I mean, I love back in the day In high school.
It was cool to go to the church, dance and that's what we did.
You guys go today.
Well, not you guys, yeah.

Brett (01:22:59):
I was going to say Maybe not, I've heard it 27.

Dave (01:23:02):
They go and they stand and it'd be in standard group.
And I mean I used to go and seethe cutest girl and go ask her
and get her phone number andwhatever you don't do that
anymore.

Brett (01:23:15):
How do you meet it has yeah, it's social change.

Dave (01:23:18):
But we used to go and, man , we'd shake a tail feather, we
were dancing A lot of not disco.
I would say Disco, yeah, that'ssome good stuff, like the Gap
Band.

Brett (01:23:30):
I know the Gap Band, oh yeah, okay, that's awesome yeah,
some good stuff.
So yeah, there's some goodstuff in there.

Dave (01:23:38):
That's my time here, a lot of that stuff.
But yeah, there's a lot ofvariety of music and for now
I'll let them show and stuff,but then I'll pick a song and
I'll say that they have to cutthat song.
So the entries that come out,that'll be cool.
So then I'm controlling thenarrative.
Yeah, there you go, so it'svery cool.

Brett (01:24:04):
And then see who does the best song.
So it'll be fun.
It'll be fun to mess with itand I'm excited to hear say all
this stuff and, of course, taketoo much time.
I mean it's good.

Dave (01:24:09):
I that's why I have the show, so I can learn what people
are gonna have you on the dailydose show and you're gonna sing
live.
I well, you know we're gonna dowe're gonna.
I have to put my mom in therefor for that one no, I make
people sound good, so I'm gonnahave you on my show.
Okay, I will get you to do acover and we'll say this is
brett and you everybody's gonnabe like that's not brett.
I'm like yeah really okay.

Brett (01:24:30):
Hey, listen, I'll trust you, I'll trust the process and
there's karma out there.

Dave (01:24:35):
I talked about you on this podcast about your phone going
off in church.

Brett (01:24:40):
Yeah, men at work.

Dave (01:24:42):
Men at work.
So that was Carmen out the dooranyway.

Brett (01:24:47):
Mother of my life.

Dave (01:24:48):
Yeah, so no, it's fun.
I love your thrill for music,so that's fun.
We'll definitely be talking forsure, for sure, I appreciate
you having me on here.
Of course, I mean it's, it'sbeen.

Brett (01:25:03):
We're kind of in the closing mode, aren't we?

Dave (01:25:04):
yeah, I mean it's closing up.
Can you hear that, can you?

Brett (01:25:05):
hear it, you feel it in the air actually.
Yeah, it's right there.
No, but honestly, I, I, I trulyappreciate you coming on and
and sharing your story, becauseone it's.
It's an amazing story of ofresilience and keeping a
positive attitude when you knowall hell breaks loose, in a
sense it is yeah and um so manydifferent scenarios that that
can happen.

Dave (01:25:23):
Yeah, and I just I think, anything.

Brett (01:25:25):
There's a lot of people out there who are fighting their
own battles and you know itmight not be as as drastic as
like a life.
There's, addictions, there's,uh, there's so many different
battles out there, but thisapplies right, you know getting
after and that's why I love yourshow.

Dave (01:25:41):
And you said passionate about things and yeah, yeah, you
keep doing this.
This is good stuff, but I'mgonna send people your way hey,
and I'll do the same because I Ithink I get a good vibe for
what you're doing here.
So, like I appreciate it, I'llthrow reggie your way here and
you'll be on here soon yeah,we'll get reggie on your city of
a city of Mesa, honoree orsomething.
Well, now I'm excited to talkto him Like the mayor of Mesa or

(01:26:02):
something.

Brett (01:26:03):
I don't know.
Oh wow, there we go.

Dave (01:26:06):
He's going to laugh at what I'm talking about.
But anyway, we have a, so man,I could talk to you forever.

Brett (01:26:11):
That's all right.

Dave (01:26:13):
In high school.
Real quick, In high schoolthere's like 20 of us guys that
hung out.
We were all LDS and so we werepretty rowdy, but we didn't
drink or anything, but we'rejust crazy rowdy.

Brett (01:26:27):
That's exactly You're explaining.
My friend grew up too.
I know that.
See, I knew that.

Dave (01:26:31):
But we were getting really troubled.
But we were pretty goofy and Ibet one of my friends was not a
member but he'd go to seminarywith me.
I'll try to make this a shortstory and we went across and we
learned about the Mesa MormonI'm sorry, we learned about the
Mormon Battalion, right?
Okay, so we learned about theMormon Battalion and he thought
that was really cool.

(01:26:52):
And we're crossing the streetand he's like, yeah, the Mormon
Battalion.

Brett (01:26:56):
And he's yelling the name or whatever.

Dave (01:27:00):
And so he's yelling the name whatever, and so and he's,
he's talking about us buddiesall hanging out because we're
all lds, and so anyway, he endsup I don't know where he's.
Yeah, he's gone.
Now it became an mmb.
It's called the mason mormonbattalion, so it's, it's our
gang, we still.
We have yeah, it's amazing morebattalion.
Mike moore do you know that is?
he made up ties on our mission,said mb on it and that's awesome

(01:27:21):
it became our thing and we'regonna think about uh, setting it
up to have a business name orwhatever it's called.

Brett (01:27:26):
Uh, uh, llc.

Dave (01:27:28):
Yes, yeah, something like that there's a lot of cool
people on it but um, but we do.
We help people like we just gota donation for somebody that
passed away in our high schooland donated some money and
things like that but anyway, umyeah, mason warm time.
So it's a just a bunch offriends from high school doing,
doing big things.

Brett (01:27:46):
Yeah, that's awesome, yeah, so thank you of course,
and um, great show, yeah, once,uh once, people you know, or
once you launch the daily doseshow, um, we'll have to make
another plug on this and haveyou on again.

Dave (01:27:59):
But, yeah, seriously, it's about, like you know, a hundred
thousand viewers and then youknow, maybe, yeah, there you go.

Brett (01:28:06):
I mean, this is a, this is like you said we're.

Dave (01:28:08):
we're up in the listener count, just like Joe Rogan on
this podcast, so I you might getoverwhelmed so Didn't know
Brett Tua, so I teased him he'sso serious about his show so I
said so I was making a jokeabout him and Joe Rogan, like
one and two, you guys tradeturns and he came back with a
serious response.
It's kind of like that,whatever.
Anyway, it was a seriousresponse about what you do and I

(01:28:32):
thought it was funny Kind ofthe same kind of conversational
show.
Yeah, that's what you said verylower count.
I said, brad, I was trying tomake a joke, oh yeah, okay, I
don't yeah, that's, uh, that'sbusiness, braddy, it's good
stuff, but good stuff yeah I Ireally appreciate you coming on
all right um.

Brett (01:28:48):
It's great having you great great talking with you.

Dave (01:28:50):
It's been fun.
It's my first experience onthis and I'll do it again yeah,
you did great.

Brett (01:28:54):
All right, man.
Well, thank you all forlistening.
Um, appreciate you tuning intoday and kind of hearing the
story and if you went throughand you've gone through
difficult things and you knowsomeone who might be feel free
to share the show with someone,and please feel free to like and
rate and, as always, keepgetting after it.

(01:29:17):
Thanks, guys, you are the man.

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