Most mid-market construction companies are outgrowing their brokers without even realizing it.
In this episode of Getting Past the Premium, Elliot Bassett sits down with Joshua Verch, Senior Advisor at The Baldwin Group, to unpack what really happens when companies scale past $10M, $25M, or $50M—and producers are still treating them like they’re a small business.
Joshua brings a sharp and refreshing perspective from inside the trenches of construction risk management, where service gaps, outdated brokers, and foggy renewal processes are killing profitability.
If you’re a producer, agency owner, or executive dealing with risk in the construction space…
This conversation is a wake-up call.
You’ll learn:
✅ Why most insurance strategies don’t evolve as businesses grow
✅ The hidden risks of staying loyal to the wrong broker
✅ How to structure better submissions and win underwriting support
✅ Why consultative producers are taking market share
✅ What it takes to be seen as an advisor—not a quote machine
Whether you’re trying to win BORs or protect your largest accounts, this episode delivers a masterclass in authority-based selling and next-level advisory.
👉 Connect and follow us:
Elliot Bassett, President & Partner at Ellerbrock-Norris | Co-Founder of LAUNCH | Host of Getting Past the Premium Podcast
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elliot-bassett-aip-cpcu-84499515/
Website: https://getlaunch.io/
👉 Connect with our guest:
Joshua Verch, Senior Advisor at The Baldwin Group
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshuaverch/
Website: http://www.baldwin.com/
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This episode is powered by LAUNCH — the only risk platform that helps producers sell advice, not just insurance.
With LAUNCH, you map real business risks in minutes, prove your value before quoting, and win the account by thinking like a CFO.
Stop selling price. Start selling insight.
👉 Visit https://getlaunch.io/ and get past the premium.
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This episode is sponsored by LAUNCH.
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