July 15, 2025 • 43 mins
Two extraordinary spiritual guides unveil the secrets of universal energy laws in this mind-expanding conversation. C. Shadow Fox and Lee Two Hawks, known for their wisdom on social media platforms, bring decades of spiritual insight as they share their remarkable journeys through near-death experiences that fundamentally transformed their understanding of reality.
The conversation takes a fascinating turn when Shadow Fox reveals a childhood "night terror" where she experienced being in a war zone with vivid sensory details, only to discover years later that she had psychically connected to Lee's actual war experience before they'd ever met. This extraordinary story opens a window into how our consciousness transcends conventional boundaries of time and space, challenging listeners to reconsider what's possible in our interconnected energetic field.
Their practical wisdom shines brightest when discussing their new book, "Spiritual Logic Behind the Power of Words and Beliefs." Shadow Fox identifies two common words that energetically block manifestation by reinforcing the concept of lack: "want" and "need." By simply removing these words from your vocabulary and replacing them with empowering alternatives, such as "I desire" or "I am creating," you can dramatically accelerate manifestation. "The speed at which you can manifest," Shadow Fox explains, "is micro fast."
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hello, hello, hello you guys, and welcome to Glow Up
with Shaman Isis.
I am so delighted to have youhere.
Thank you so much, everyone forall the subscribers and the
support for the show.
It's only a couple of monthsnow and we're growing quickly.
I am very excited and I know Isay that every time, but I'm
honestly really jacked fortoday's episode because I have
(00:26):
very special guests.
I have two guests which is onlythe second time I've done that
since I've been doing podcastingand they are people that I know
from the work that I do andthey do.
Welcome, welcome, welcome.
Shadow Fox and Lee Tuhawks toGlobal.
Shaman Isis, I'm delighted tohave you here.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Oh, we're excited to be here and thank you, this is
this.
I'm just.
I think this is just gonna beso much fun.
We're gonna have fun people youknow we are.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
She tells me when I should respond.
She hits me with her elbow Icaught that.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
I was like they're clearly a couple okay, I'll just
pinch them well thank you verymuch for this statement yeah,
yeah, not at all.
So for those of you who arelisteners, you know um, who've
been with me for a while.
You know that I I am a fan ofum x, formerly known as twitter,
(01:18):
and I got to know the fabulousshadow fox and Lead to Hawks on
X, where they are well-knownpersonalities in the spiritual
community, well-known spiritualthought leaders helping guide
people with their wisdom andexperience, and so I'm so
excited to have them on the show.
We'll be sharing their upcomingAlmost here new book, which I
(01:42):
know is going to be a hit, withyou guys later on in the episode
.
Uh, so can I?
Can I just start people offreally quick by asking you guys
um, can you share how you gotinto the into?
Speaker 3 (01:55):
spiritual work.
Oh my goodness.
Well, uh, the easiest way I cansay that is from the moment I
drew breath, uh, literally, Ihad uh two near-death
experiences and it was likethere you go.
I was there and I just neversaw the world the same way as
everybody else does.
(02:15):
And so it has been a lifelongprocess to navigate um life as
everybody lives it, andrecognizing, seeing, sensing and
working with energy, because welive in a world of energy.
It's just what do we know of itand how can we utilize it?
(02:37):
And so that has been really mylifelong process of figuring,
navigating life.
And so I've come across a fewthings, learned a few things,
and I kind of know where somepotholes are.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Lee Tuhox.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Oh well, thank you.
What brought me to where I amnow is basically my living
experience.
Made me drive or strive towardsthe why of everything, the
essence, the essence of life,the essence of love, the essence
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of all things, of form or notformed, the known and the
unknown.
I desire to know the unknownand what brought me to that, as
I said, is the experiences of mylife, much additled to what she
had.
We both have had our ownpsychic experiences and grown
from that and have been open toa field of energy called the
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higher realms and in that hasdeveloped a deep insight.
I call myself a theorist and anabstractionist.
She's much better at publicspeaking and all that stuff, but
that's what brought me here.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Yeah, and actually it was when you stepped into that
library.
You want me to tell that story?
Well, it kind of brought youhere, didn't it?
Speaker 2 (04:08):
It's one of the things 're definitely a couple,
definitely a couple, yeah solet's hear about the library I'm
I love libraries.
Okay, well, just to give alittle coloring to it.
I did not have a greatchildhood.
It was cruel, it was nasty, itwas mean, et cetera.
You know so many people hadthat, unfortunately, and so I
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really didn't know about theworld.
I hated people, I didn't trustpeople, I didn't care because
there was nothing to care for,but I had a lot to hate what I
thought at that time.
Okay.
So I went to a library andwalked in and back then had his
carols where you could play arecord and listen to it,
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individual carols dividing eachspace.
And I looked and there's allthis music.
And I had never really had theopportunity to listen to music
or radio or TV at that timegrowing up.
So I thought, well, this wouldbe interesting.
So I went down, sat down, Ihappened to pick up and it
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happened to be Beethoven in thethird symphony, erotica, and I
turned that on and I was stunnedand I made me realize at that
time as I played through all theknown people of that age, the
great symphonies.
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So in that I came to realizethat if there are people that
can write this majesty, that canbring forth this beauty of
sound, then I am wrong in mythinking.
There is beauty out there,there is love, there is
compassion and concern, all thatin an instant flash.
(05:59):
And that was one of thekeynotes of my alteration.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
I like that you touched on that, because the
frequency and vibration iseverything.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Energy is that one?
Speaker 1 (06:13):
consistent across everything and music is one of
the most powerful things thatexists in the human experience
and has has the ability tochange, to heal, to change
perspectives, to open us up tomany different things.
I mean, it certainly saved mefrom losing my mind yeah, and it
(06:36):
can calm the savage soul likeyes yes I'm still savage, but
you know there we are.
Sorry I didn't put it out though, uh, so um the near-death
experiences, I'm I and psychicexperiences are two things I
really would love to touch onwith you guys um uh, when I was
(07:00):
the summer, I turned 13 and notonly did a shaman uh move in
next door to me and startteaching me about holistic
living but, I, I had a very wildacid experience.
It was really.
I mean, I was a wild child.
I had grown up in an orphanageand and a lot yeah, yeah.
(07:21):
And and it makes you.
It makes you.
I mean, I was exploring thingsthat most adults would be afraid
to, running all over memphis inthe 1970s, like how I didn't
die.
But um, that's that summer isreally interesting for me
because I've really looked at itas such a pivotal time.
You know, I got called toshamanism, I had the, the acids
experience.
I um got trapped, got thrownand trampled by a very pregnant
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horse.
Oh, wow.
I was amazed I didn't breakthings.
It's amazing I didn't breakthings.
I fell off of a building, gotout of the back of a car.
I had been riding in the backof a station wagon and I got out
of it.
Just something came into myhead and said you need to be in
(08:05):
front and I went and got infront and it ended up saving my
life from the whole back of that.
Not even just like five minuteslater, the whole back of the
thing got destroyed.
And there were repeatedexperiences like that and I
remember writing it down one dayand I was like, boy, the year I
turned 13 was really weird.
And then I got called toshamanism and I and I ran, I
shut everything down.
I was like, absolutely not, Igrew up with a nuns.
(08:27):
No, thank you, I do not want tobe a preacher or a nun.
That's what it sounded like tome uh-huh and I had psychic
experiences, the, the, from avery early age.
One of my first memories um isof uh, of being on the floor in
in indian style, and and I wasin egypt and I was, and I knew I
was remembering, even as a.
And I was in Egypt and I was,and I knew I was remembering,
even as a toddler.
I was remembering in detail,that was actually tripping me
(08:49):
out and I was asking you know,anyway, the point is is that I
think that these are what do youguys think?
Do you think that the neardeath experiences and the
psychic experiences are becauseof the energy that you're
embodying in this lifetime orbecause you're being called to
something?
Or a mix of both?
Speaker 3 (09:08):
I, I think there's in my own personal um space.
Um, it's a little bit ofeverything, because with the
near-death experiences, um,energy was revealed to me in its
greatest compassion of creationand I mean, it was like I would
(09:28):
, you could see the macabre, andit was like I knew every single
intricate part of the wheel,what it meant, so on and so
forth in the laws of energy.
And so when I woke I recognizedI had, there was a message.
This is my purpose for beinghere is to share this, this
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information about energy orabout wasps.
I was like, yeah, this one will.
It should have had my, you know, head examined when I was up
there, you know, because whenyou come here into this reality
of three-dimensional reality,things are so much harder and I
do believe that in dream timethat there are, we can access
(10:18):
many different aspects ofdimension and dimensionality or
multi-dimensionality.
So the subconscious we can gaininformation from that.
We can also gain from our ownconsciousness, like being aware,
like in the day-to-day, and thesuper consciousness.
(10:39):
So it's just learning to workwith dreams and understanding,
because, I will say this, I'm avery, very big component.
There's many, many books outthere with symbols, for this is
what this means and that's whatthat means.
There are general things suchas water would be an emotional
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aspect for you to be aware of.
An emotional aspect, uh, foryou to be aware of.
But the thing is is, you know,a bouquet of flowers to me me
may mean something so verydifferent in dream time to you,
or even to lead to hawks.
So you have to figure out whatit means to you and then those
pieces of dream time can beevaluated and worked on, because
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these dreams are the keys for,um stepping into an awareness in
an everyday situation, whetheryou have something you have to
solve at work or you're justtrying to get information.
Um, dreamtime can be veryeducational in many components.
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It's just learning to work withit, because the nightmares or
night terrors, sometimes thosethings, they frighten us so much
, but there's so muchinformation to glean from them.
Those are the ones you remember.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
You're inspiring me to write down a workshop called
Dream Time as a Tool.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
We used to teach on this.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
yes, yeah, I love that Lee.
Oh, okay, sorry to call you out.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
No, no, no, no he was just falling asleep.
That is it.
That is inaccurate.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
He zones out Zoning is correct.
Yes, yeah.
Okay, not going to sleep zoningAnyhow.
I have had three near-deathexperiences which I don't tell
anybody about because it's noneof anybody's business.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
But mine, there you go yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
And they were informative, they were exact,
and I call them the absolutes,because what I know, I know
Through those absolutes what wasshown to me in the near-death,
the passing on and coming backin, and that cord that connects
us to our higher selves wasstretched thin because I was
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very far out there.
So, in that, it gave me lessons.
I did stop dreaming, however,because I have PTSD, and all I
was dreaming about, well, themassive war.
So I didn't want to do thatanymore, so I shut my dreams
down down, which is also acapacity we have.
(13:25):
So only lately have I allowedcertain things to come through
that I feel like again areimpressions, and that's okay.
So that's been basically myexperience.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Yeah, I don't think we're really taught that dream
time.
I mean, yeah, you'll hearpeople talk about, oh, learn how
to astral travel, but I don'tthink we really talk much about
using our dream time as a toolfor healing, as a way to manage
our CPTSD or PTSD or you knowdifferent things that people
struggle with or face and uh,that's actually interesting is
(14:08):
to realign, like making use ofthat sleep time to heal yourself
, to explore the world, tounderstand things better.
Like my um, I've found, as I uh,as I've continued to with my
spiritual practices, that myvisions um, prophetic visions
and communication from uh, theuniverse, from my spirit guides
um, have increased and that'sthat's more me learning to
(14:31):
discipline myself and be open toit than it ever was you know I
I I'm not a real big fan of theprophetic visions, because it
makes it sound like you're this,you know god, when in fact
you're just becoming a vesselfor the information that's there
yes
Speaker 3 (14:46):
they know more colorful I just like to make a
mention, um, um, before therelease of um, this book,
spiritual logic, um, I wrote avignette, um, and there's three
short stories in this vignette,which is available on Amazon.
It is a download, or I meanit's not, it's printable.
(15:09):
I guess they call them ane-book.
Sorry, guys, terminologyescapes me sometimes, but in
there I talk about the twonear-death experiences that I
had and because of thoseexperiences, I give a story of a
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dream that I had.
I used to call them nightterrors and in this dream I was
about I don't know seven oreight, when this happened and it
was literally.
I would wake up in cold sweat,screaming, running into my
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mother's room because of what Isaw, experienced, smelt, I mean,
this dream was so vivid, it waslike me, but it wasn't me.
I found myself in a foreignland with like dragon teeth,
(16:13):
mountains, and I'm standing onthis hillside and there were
bullets like this long and thiswide around.
Come to find out that wasmortar and all I knew is they
were big, big-ass bullets.
Okay, oops, sorry, anyway, um,and I was standing, and this was
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me in the dream, and I'mstanding there and green, green
snow is falling down because themortars had hit.
I had it overhead with thecanopy of the trees, and I'm
watching the precision of howaccurate the enemy was, because
it was just.
(16:54):
I didn't know why I was engagedin really seeing that precision
and my lieutenant was killed.
Um, I was trying to help someof the my wounded, um comrades
and um, all of a sudden I wakeup and I find myself screaming
(17:16):
and I could smell gunpowder, Icould smell the blood in the air
, the fear, and I wake up andI'm screaming and I run into my
mother's room and I'm like mom,mom, something's happening,
something's happened.
And I knew the energy, thefeeling was not of my brother.
My brother was there at thesame time and so my mother says
well, if this is an unknownsoldier, then we're going to
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pray for him.
And she literally had to rockme.
I mean, I was terrified.
I mean this was wartime, I wasexperiencing everything.
And it wasn't until an adult,after I had met Lee Tuhawks,
probably about three years, fouryears after that, there was
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just an experience that ithappened and it was like okay,
so I've got to tell him.
I had intuition of feeling thatI should make a mention of this
dream.
Come to find out.
The dream was of him.
He verified every single, everysingle piece, from the jagged
mountains to the mortar, to themortar, to the green snow,
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everything, even who I wasworking on in the dream time.
So, was this dream?
Was this a break in reality?
Was this, I don't know?
Astral projection, astralprojection these were some of
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the things, the differences ofworking with energy or stepping
into the flow in order to bringabout Now, at this time.
Did I understand it?
Oh, heck, no, I did not.
It scared the living bejesusout of me.
But all I knew is there wassome connection to someone.
I had no idea who it was, andso I mean, you can still read.
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I didn't give everything away,um, from that short story, but
this is the idea that we live ina field of energy every single
day.
Whether you're eating, whetheryou're breathing, you know
whether there's an exchange of asmile.
It is energy.
Whether you love someone andhug them, that's an exchange of
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energy.
And the more we understand howenergy really, really works, the
easier our lives become yes,yes, I, I, we're.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
We're really here to learn how to manage our energy,
and that was something it tookme such a long time to get.
I was like it's that simplegirl, it's that simple if I may,
if I may, bring a differentialto this.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
There's a difference and it's uncommon actually
between what we call astraltraveling, where the astral body
leaves the physical form whileyou're sleeping, etc.
And goes out and wanders andsees other worlds or other
happenings.
But the other aspect and it'sall energy, another aspect of
energy is where yourconsciousness leaves, so that
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goes beyond.
Their consciousness is layered.
Right now we live in a field ofconsciousness that only brings
us so far if we elevateourselves.
Consciousness is still there,but at a higher level, and it
goes on and out throughout theuniverse until finally you, you
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extend yourself to the finalpoint of recognizing one yeah,
yeah, I, I like that you broughtthat up.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
I think we, we, we only begin to see things when
we're ready to and when, yes,the we've achieved the, the work
that is uh, needed to be ableto be open to things.
So most of my experience withpsychic visions have been things
that have just a lot of itcomes in my dreams, sometimes in
the daytime, but once, once, Ireally had healed a lot of my,
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my, my junk and I think this istrue for most people, cause I
think that's that's the blockagethat prevents us from really
expanding our.
I had an experience last yearwhere I was getting increasingly
concerned about Donald Trumpand this is not about politics,
to be clear for people and I wasgoing on the rooftop in the
Brooklyn building.
I lived in and meditating upthere and allowing myself to
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rest in the highestconsciousness I had achieved,
and I kept getting.
I could hear men, a handful ofmen, talking about him and they
were planning something.
And then and then I startedseeing a sharpshooter on a
rooftop and two days beforePennsylvania, I got a very
distinctive vision of that andI'm getting chill bumps all over
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my body and I I understood inthat that moment that, because I
had had worked to break downsome of a lot of my, my junk, um
, I was being, you know, allowed, if you will, to to uh allowing
myself, and I think this isthis isn't about being special.
You know, I'm not showing thesestories to say, oh look, I'm
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special it's that this issomething that we are all
capable of.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
And I think that's one of us.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
You know we go through the trial and the error
right.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
We try this and okay, we fall flat on that.
Whether it be even trustingthat intuition, you get that
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feeling.
Maybe it's in you.
You get a gut feeling.
Or you might get pains in theyou know, behind your shoulder
blades.
Or you get the.
You know the chills, thetingles like the back of your
neck, like hey, pay attention.
Or you might get the chillswhere it's like ah, yeah, I'm
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correct on that, you know, youcall them the good chills.
Or you get the spidey senses.
Um, so I think that that itjust comes to being that each
and every single person has thisability.
It's innate within us.
Our bodies are energy right andelectromagnetic in resonance,
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and so we're receptors, we'refeelers, and I call them like
those popcorn thoughts.
And so we're receptors, we'refeelers, and you know, I call
them like those popcorn thoughts.
You know, even when I was a kid, as a child medium which I was
horrendously mocked for, I meanlike I'm not telling stories out
of class here.
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It's like anybody in childhoodand you know it's hard because
there was nobody really aroundto help us navigate it.
We really kind of had to figureit out.
Maybe some great uncle or auntsomewhere may give us a little
bone to chew on, but other thanthat we were pretty much left to
our own devices I mean on anaverage general generalization
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and so we just kind of had towing it and just being mocked
and being shunned and because ofyou know how somebody believes
something to be.
But yet here we are, are andwe're sitting right in front of
you and we are no different thananyone else and you have the
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same abilities.
It's just, if you choose to gowithin and and just become
silent for a minute, I mean youget images, you know signs,
symbols, even through dream time, through.
I mean you ever just do dishesand you're standing there, you
kind of zone out and you're like, wow, those got done quick.
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Or you might be driving downthe road and time just vanishes.
How'd I get here?
I don't remember passing.
So you know, and it's kind oflike that, it's like a hypnotic
aspect.
But during that time,information, whether you call it
daydreaming or whatever.
That is like information coming, whether it be a creative thing
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, like oh, I should paint thispainting, or I should, you know,
market this one way, or, youknow, you just get those little
bits of inspiration, andinspiration is in spirit oh yes,
yes, it is.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Uh, I love that yeah I I want to re-emphasize that
that I think we, we do this.
There's a lot of spiritualbypassing in the spiritual
community and there's a lot ofcommercialization,
commodification of the spiritualworld and and, by nature of
that, it incentivizes us tohierarchy, uh, the system, and
(26:19):
you see this a lot with gurus,which is just a fancy word for
teacher.
Yeah, and you know, and I get,like, I get it, I understand
people trying to spread their,their beliefs and you know, uh,
and the world is designed to totell people that, you know, when
you can make a lot of money offof whatever it is, and you're,
um, you're, you're awesome andextra special, but, um, we're,
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we're remembering what we'recapable of, because we've
forgotten as a world, we becameso caught up in the lower
vibrational energies and thosebase things that we've forgotten
.
And you know, I find itinteresting that there's so much
fascination with the Egyptianculture, the Sumerians and
things like that, and it's like,you know, we're, we're kind of
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the same thing and we'resupposed to be, frankly, more
evolved.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
So, if that doesn't tell you that we're actually
kind of kind of going backwardsto go forward, know, you know
you make a really good pointbecause I will say it's like in
the title of the book.
You know that we have, you know, spiritual logic behind the
power of words and beliefs.
Energy is universal languageand in the book we um, you can
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take any belief that you have it, it matters not.
And how many times do we have,like, a belief that carries
lower self-esteem?
That's also a belief.
You may have a political or areligious or a cultural or an
educational, even a bias.
I mean, come on, doctors, go toschool and they get 20 minutes
(27:51):
of education on nutrition.
Right, but nutrition is whatactually heals the body.
And so when you speak to adoctor and you're talking about
nutrition I mean even years ago,but they're like deaf, they
don't hear it, it's like no,take this pill.
So recognize that.
Any belief that we have, we canhold that belief and challenge
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it up against the energy of loss.
It doesn't mean it can give youa valid like you're.
You're way over here onto theright, you're over here onto the
left, yes or no, or in themiddle.
It kind of gives you a gauge,because if that belief system is
kind of out of whack, thenyou're not in the flow with the
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universe.
You're not in the flow with theenergy.
For instance, all animals, allyou know, rocks, minerals,
kingdom, all of that followkingdom.
All of that follow the energyof laws, a, a.
A fox is not going to behavelike a cougar, or even a blade
of grass, they're only going tobehave for that species.
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And so with us, we get to makedifferent choices.
We have a differentconsciousness, but when our
beliefs, or what we think aboutourselves, all beliefs, are
learned, we either adopt them orwe learn them or they were
jammed down.
Our windpipe is, as children,period, and so we can take that
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and literally, with checks andbalances, and see how does what
does the end, what does the, theenergy of the universe say
about it?
Are we out of whack?
Are we in balance?
Can we move?
Can we move forward in a verygracious, compassionate and
loving way and embrace us ashumanity in our own evolution?
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Or maybe that's the wrong word.
Expansion of consciousness?
Um, any of those differentterminology fits different.
You know different people forwhere their journey is.
But the more we understand onlaw, the easier it is to
navigate.
(30:10):
When we speak about words, forinstance, how many people?
There's a couple of words I donot use in my vocabulary.
I've given them up.
I gave them up for Lent.
Why?
Because they're not a creativeforce.
And guess what those two wordsare?
They actually sound like swearwords.
And it's very difficult for meto say these words because it's
(30:34):
like a really swear word wantand need.
Think about it.
What does want and needactually mean?
It means lack.
But when people are workingforward and saying, well, I need
a new job, I need to do this, I, you know.
Um, I want a better car, well,the universe is saying that's so
(30:57):
good, now you're going to wantit and need it because nowhere
in there have you asked toreceive it.
And want and need means lack,so it's not available to you at
this time.
So if you walk into and you aretuning in to the law of
abundance, want and need is anoxymoron kind of voiding the law
(31:20):
because they don't recognize it.
The law of abundance does notrecognize lack.
So why would it recognize theword want or need?
It's logic.
I mean, even in human logic itdoesn't make sense to try to
create something from behind theeight ball.
And so what would be a betterterminology With a vast
(31:43):
dictionary in any language.
Is that as creative as we canget?
How about I desire this?
Ooh, that's a big one.
I am creating this, I ammagnetizing this to come into my
field of resonance.
This is mine, I am complete, Iam this.
(32:04):
What ceo?
I am the ceo of this companynow and and the resumes there.
You've done your interview, soit's far different in in.
So in our book, we give a fewdifferent things for energy the
words and the vibration.
(32:25):
How does want or need sound toyou when you actually say it
does it?
Does it not sound different?
Or you numb to that?
There's a frequency, a rhythmof vibration, of resonance with
all words.
Why not make an efficient useof the energy around us?
(32:47):
And guess what?
The speed to which, if yourelease those words, the speed
to which you can manifest, ismicro fast, yeah no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
I I totally agree with you.
I do a lot of live streams andI I get asked a lot of questions
like is johnny gonna ask me toget married?
Am I going to move in withBilly?
And I'm like, stop stop being apick me to start with.
But you know, start askingyourself do I want Johnny or
Bobby or Billy?
(33:21):
Or you know, catherine, orwhoever it is, and is this a
person that's going to help mecontinue to evolve?
Are they going to be?
in addition to my life or adirect like.
You're not asking the rightquestions.
You're saying I need, I want,and you're also trying to set a
destination point for arelationship which, when you do
that with situations, people andthings, when you say I need to
(33:46):
get there with somebody else'senergy being, you're trying to
manifest a human being.
You can manifest outcomes inyour own life, but when you get
involved in trying to manifestthe choices of another person.
Not only are you corrupting theprocess, but you're putting
you're putting in a gps endpoint into life and then
(34:06):
ignoring all the green and redflags those opportunities to
make different decisions alongthe way, because you've decided
where you need to be and you'veassigned somebody a special
place in your life without evenknowing.
You feel like them, which Ithink is one of the reasons why
so many people end up married tosomebody they don't even like,
and it's like did you decidethat you were gonna?
Were they just available whenyou were ready to get married?
Speaker 3 (34:34):
Anyway, that's it ready to get married anyway?
Oh no, oh yeah, I hear you andagain, it's a choice.
I mean, if you know these wordswork for you and you don't, you
know, then carry on your merryway.
It's just what we share in abook is information, and it's up
to each individual, if itresonates with them and if they
choose to work, go forward.
It's just.
You know I.
I just know, um, even in our,our personal lives, that for us,
(34:57):
manifesting is a byproduct.
It's not a focus, it's abyproduct yeah, that's that.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
That's what practice I think leads to um, can we see
the book and and can you justtell our listeners what the name
of the book is?
Speaker 3 (35:11):
Yes, well, I don't know if I can hold it up.
Yeah, you can see it, can yousee that?
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Spiritual Logic Behind the Power of Words and
Beliefs, energies, universalLanguage, artisans of the Spirit
, C Shadow Fox and Lee Two Hawks.
I love that.
Congratulations, I'm so excited, can you?
Tell our listeners wherethey'll be able to get the book
and approximately when it willbe available.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Okay, the book.
Right now, the physical book isavailable.
Um, you can order it on Amazon.
You can order it to any of yourfavorite bookstores.
Uh, ingram Sparks also carriesit.
So even if you are like a bookdistributor or have you know you
can, you can definitely get itthat way, um, but any bookstore
(35:58):
you can order it from, or amazonand it.
The, the paperback is available.
The um ebook will be shortly.
Okay, I'm doing one thing at atime, guys.
Sorry that's my bad, but yeah,hopefully very shortly the
e-book will be available.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
I think we have to get to a place where we don't
assign judgment.
It's like so the paperbacksavailable first.
That's a great way to promotethe paperback instead of
emphasizing another one, likeit's just a different choice,
it's.
There's not neither right norwrong right and I and I'm, and
I'm still guilty.
You know, for those of you whoare listening, we know we're so
hard on ourselves.
(36:42):
Perfectionism is usually atrauma response and, um, we
judge ourselves based on whatwe've been, we've had, drilled
into our heads, makes us a goodor bad or, you know, effective
or not effective, and it's likeso much garbage.
Yeah, a lot of the things Iwhen I said I mean I love being
at this place in my life becauseI look at a lot of the things
(37:02):
that I used to really buy into,like celebrity culture used to
be a huge part of my world as anentertainment and and a fashion
publicist, and now I literallycringe when I see anything
that's celebrity related becausethe the vapidness and low
vibration of the entirestructure of it just and it's
not a judgment of the people,it's it's about it's low
vibrational um.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
So you know everything.
Everything is changing withinthis paradigm shift.
It really is, and our awarenessin how to conduct business, how
to be and so many people areusing that, the word being
authentic or whatever and I willjust say that I know this book
(37:46):
carries a resonance and thosewho have open hearts, those who
have open minds and those whoare looking to fill in missing
puzzle pieces could be questionsthey've had since childhood.
You may very well find them inthere.
Transformation it is a in somany different capacities,
(38:09):
because within the, within eachchapter, there are, there's a
story or an experience thateither lee, two hawks or I
express, and then we speak aboutsome of the laws of energy that
were applied or not applied ortotally chucked out the window
(38:29):
with that experience and we feltflat on our face.
So, again, there's it's.
It's it's a way of sharing partof our life's journey and
having you recognize that energyis around us and it's how
you're going to portray it andcreate your own reality.
(38:51):
So there may be one or twochapters in there that you may
struggle with, simply becausethat may not the information in
there may not be the specificpath that you're here to work on
at this point in time, but yetother chapters.
You might just validatesomething that you already know
(39:16):
or will give a deeperunderstanding for that.
So it's like one person willhave an entirely different
experience with this book thanwhat somebody else may have, and
that is the magic of this book.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
I'm so happy for you guys.
Congratulations on the book.
I don't think a lot of peoplerealize just what a labor of
love a book is, particularly onethat's designed to help people
continue just to discoverthemselves on their wonderful
hero's journey.
You are all, we are all on thehero's journey you are all we
are all on the hero's journey.
Yes, and uh, uh, I thinklearning that is such a powerful
(39:53):
moment for all of us.
Um, thank you, shadow fox, andthank you lee, two hawks, for
coming on uh the show andsharing your wisdom with us,
your experiences and your newbook.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
Congratulations again thank you, thank you so much
for this opportunity and I thankyou.
Thank you so much.
I'm a nicest.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
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(40:34):
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It is.
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(40:55):
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Speaker 3 (41:05):
Awesome Congratulations.
Yeah, seriously Thank you.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
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events.
I have a speaking tour comingup in the starting in September.
You can learn about thespeaking engagements that I have
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Anyway, sending you guys love,be sure and subscribe and
support the show and share yourcomments and we'll see you guys
(41:30):
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Thanks, shadow fox and lee, twohawks, and good luck with the
book.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
thank, you so much, thank you bye, you guys bye.
Hello, hello, hello you guys, and welcome to Glow Up
with Shaman Isis.
I am so delighted to have youhere.
Thank you so much, everyone forall the subscribers and the
support for the show.
It's only a couple of monthsnow and we're growing quickly.
I am very excited and I know Isay that every time, but I'm
honestly really jacked fortoday's episode because I have
(00:26):
very special guests.
I have two guests which is onlythe second time I've done that
since I've been doing podcastingand they are people that I know
from the work that I do andthey do.
Welcome, welcome, welcome.
Shadow Fox and Lee Tuhawks toGlobal.
Shaman Isis, I'm delighted tohave you here.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Oh, we're excited to be here and thank you, this is
this.
I'm just.
I think this is just gonna beso much fun.
We're gonna have fun people youknow we are.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
She tells me when I should respond.
She hits me with her elbow Icaught that.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
I was like they're clearly a couple okay, I'll just
pinch them well thank you verymuch for this statement yeah,
yeah, not at all.
So for those of you who arelisteners, you know um, who've
been with me for a while.
You know that I I am a fan ofum x, formerly known as twitter,
(01:18):
and I got to know the fabulousshadow fox and Lead to Hawks on
X, where they are well-knownpersonalities in the spiritual
community, well-known spiritualthought leaders helping guide
people with their wisdom andexperience, and so I'm so
excited to have them on the show.
We'll be sharing their upcomingAlmost here new book, which I
(01:42):
know is going to be a hit, withyou guys later on in the episode
.
Uh, so can I?
Can I just start people offreally quick by asking you guys
um, can you share how you gotinto the into?
Speaker 3 (01:55):
spiritual work.
Oh my goodness.
Well, uh, the easiest way I cansay that is from the moment I
drew breath, uh, literally, Ihad uh two near-death
experiences and it was likethere you go.
I was there and I just neversaw the world the same way as
everybody else does.
(02:15):
And so it has been a lifelongprocess to navigate um life as
everybody lives it, andrecognizing, seeing, sensing and
working with energy, because welive in a world of energy.
It's just what do we know of itand how can we utilize it?
(02:37):
And so that has been really mylifelong process of figuring,
navigating life.
And so I've come across a fewthings, learned a few things,
and I kind of know where somepotholes are.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Lee Tuhox.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Oh well, thank you.
What brought me to where I amnow is basically my living
experience.
Made me drive or strive towardsthe why of everything, the
essence, the essence of life,the essence of love, the essence
(03:15):
of all things, of form or notformed, the known and the
unknown.
I desire to know the unknownand what brought me to that, as
I said, is the experiences of mylife, much additled to what she
had.
We both have had our ownpsychic experiences and grown
from that and have been open toa field of energy called the
(03:39):
higher realms and in that hasdeveloped a deep insight.
I call myself a theorist and anabstractionist.
She's much better at publicspeaking and all that stuff, but
that's what brought me here.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Yeah, and actually it was when you stepped into that
library.
You want me to tell that story?
Well, it kind of brought youhere, didn't it?
Speaker 2 (04:08):
It's one of the things 're definitely a couple,
definitely a couple, yeah solet's hear about the library I'm
I love libraries.
Okay, well, just to give alittle coloring to it.
I did not have a greatchildhood.
It was cruel, it was nasty, itwas mean, et cetera.
You know so many people hadthat, unfortunately, and so I
(04:29):
really didn't know about theworld.
I hated people, I didn't trustpeople, I didn't care because
there was nothing to care for,but I had a lot to hate what I
thought at that time.
Okay.
So I went to a library andwalked in and back then had his
carols where you could play arecord and listen to it,
(04:53):
individual carols dividing eachspace.
And I looked and there's allthis music.
And I had never really had theopportunity to listen to music
or radio or TV at that timegrowing up.
So I thought, well, this wouldbe interesting.
So I went down, sat down, Ihappened to pick up and it
(05:15):
happened to be Beethoven in thethird symphony, erotica, and I
turned that on and I was stunnedand I made me realize at that
time as I played through all theknown people of that age, the
great symphonies.
(05:36):
So in that I came to realizethat if there are people that
can write this majesty, that canbring forth this beauty of
sound, then I am wrong in mythinking.
There is beauty out there,there is love, there is
compassion and concern, all thatin an instant flash.
(05:59):
And that was one of thekeynotes of my alteration.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
I like that you touched on that, because the
frequency and vibration iseverything.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Energy is that one?
Speaker 1 (06:13):
consistent across everything and music is one of
the most powerful things thatexists in the human experience
and has has the ability tochange, to heal, to change
perspectives, to open us up tomany different things.
I mean, it certainly saved mefrom losing my mind yeah, and it
(06:36):
can calm the savage soul likeyes yes I'm still savage, but
you know there we are.
Sorry I didn't put it out though, uh, so um the near-death
experiences, I'm I and psychicexperiences are two things I
really would love to touch onwith you guys um uh, when I was
(07:00):
the summer, I turned 13 and notonly did a shaman uh move in
next door to me and startteaching me about holistic
living but, I, I had a very wildacid experience.
It was really.
I mean, I was a wild child.
I had grown up in an orphanageand and a lot yeah, yeah.
(07:21):
And and it makes you.
It makes you.
I mean, I was exploring thingsthat most adults would be afraid
to, running all over memphis inthe 1970s, like how I didn't
die.
But um, that's that summer isreally interesting for me
because I've really looked at itas such a pivotal time.
You know, I got called toshamanism, I had the, the acids
experience.
I um got trapped, got thrownand trampled by a very pregnant
(07:43):
horse.
Oh, wow.
I was amazed I didn't breakthings.
It's amazing I didn't breakthings.
I fell off of a building, gotout of the back of a car.
I had been riding in the backof a station wagon and I got out
of it.
Just something came into myhead and said you need to be in
(08:05):
front and I went and got infront and it ended up saving my
life from the whole back of that.
Not even just like five minuteslater, the whole back of the
thing got destroyed.
And there were repeatedexperiences like that and I
remember writing it down one dayand I was like, boy, the year I
turned 13 was really weird.
And then I got called toshamanism and I and I ran, I
shut everything down.
I was like, absolutely not, Igrew up with a nuns.
(08:27):
No, thank you, I do not want tobe a preacher or a nun.
That's what it sounded like tome uh-huh and I had psychic
experiences, the, the, from avery early age.
One of my first memories um isof uh, of being on the floor in
in indian style, and and I wasin egypt and I was, and I knew I
was remembering, even as a.
And I was in Egypt and I was,and I knew I was remembering,
even as a toddler.
I was remembering in detail,that was actually tripping me
(08:49):
out and I was asking you know,anyway, the point is is that I
think that these are what do youguys think?
Do you think that the neardeath experiences and the
psychic experiences are becauseof the energy that you're
embodying in this lifetime orbecause you're being called to
something?
Or a mix of both?
Speaker 3 (09:08):
I, I think there's in my own personal um space.
Um, it's a little bit ofeverything, because with the
near-death experiences, um,energy was revealed to me in its
greatest compassion of creationand I mean, it was like I would
(09:28):
, you could see the macabre, andit was like I knew every single
intricate part of the wheel,what it meant, so on and so
forth in the laws of energy.
And so when I woke I recognizedI had, there was a message.
This is my purpose for beinghere is to share this, this
(09:51):
information about energy orabout wasps.
I was like, yeah, this one will.
It should have had my, you know, head examined when I was up
there, you know, because whenyou come here into this reality
of three-dimensional reality,things are so much harder and I
do believe that in dream timethat there are, we can access
(10:18):
many different aspects ofdimension and dimensionality or
multi-dimensionality.
So the subconscious we can gaininformation from that.
We can also gain from our ownconsciousness, like being aware,
like in the day-to-day, and thesuper consciousness.
(10:39):
So it's just learning to workwith dreams and understanding,
because, I will say this, I'm avery, very big component.
There's many, many books outthere with symbols, for this is
what this means and that's whatthat means.
There are general things suchas water would be an emotional
(11:01):
aspect for you to be aware of.
An emotional aspect, uh, foryou to be aware of.
But the thing is is, you know,a bouquet of flowers to me me
may mean something so verydifferent in dream time to you,
or even to lead to hawks.
So you have to figure out whatit means to you and then those
pieces of dream time can beevaluated and worked on, because
(11:25):
these dreams are the keys for,um stepping into an awareness in
an everyday situation, whetheryou have something you have to
solve at work or you're justtrying to get information.
Um, dreamtime can be veryeducational in many components.
(11:48):
It's just learning to work withit, because the nightmares or
night terrors, sometimes thosethings, they frighten us so much
, but there's so muchinformation to glean from them.
Those are the ones you remember.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
You're inspiring me to write down a workshop called
Dream Time as a Tool.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
We used to teach on this.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
yes, yeah, I love that Lee.
Oh, okay, sorry to call you out.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
No, no, no, no he was just falling asleep.
That is it.
That is inaccurate.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
He zones out Zoning is correct.
Yes, yeah.
Okay, not going to sleep zoningAnyhow.
I have had three near-deathexperiences which I don't tell
anybody about because it's noneof anybody's business.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
But mine, there you go yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
And they were informative, they were exact,
and I call them the absolutes,because what I know, I know
Through those absolutes what wasshown to me in the near-death,
the passing on and coming backin, and that cord that connects
us to our higher selves wasstretched thin because I was
(13:03):
very far out there.
So, in that, it gave me lessons.
I did stop dreaming, however,because I have PTSD, and all I
was dreaming about, well, themassive war.
So I didn't want to do thatanymore, so I shut my dreams
down down, which is also acapacity we have.
(13:25):
So only lately have I allowedcertain things to come through
that I feel like again areimpressions, and that's okay.
So that's been basically myexperience.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Yeah, I don't think we're really taught that dream
time.
I mean, yeah, you'll hearpeople talk about, oh, learn how
to astral travel, but I don'tthink we really talk much about
using our dream time as a toolfor healing, as a way to manage
our CPTSD or PTSD or you knowdifferent things that people
struggle with or face and uh,that's actually interesting is
(14:08):
to realign, like making use ofthat sleep time to heal yourself
, to explore the world, tounderstand things better.
Like my um, I've found, as I uh,as I've continued to with my
spiritual practices, that myvisions um, prophetic visions
and communication from uh, theuniverse, from my spirit guides
um, have increased and that'sthat's more me learning to
(14:31):
discipline myself and be open toit than it ever was you know I
I I'm not a real big fan of theprophetic visions, because it
makes it sound like you're this,you know god, when in fact
you're just becoming a vesselfor the information that's there
yes
Speaker 3 (14:46):
they know more colorful I just like to make a
mention, um, um, before therelease of um, this book,
spiritual logic, um, I wrote avignette, um, and there's three
short stories in this vignette,which is available on Amazon.
It is a download, or I meanit's not, it's printable.
(15:09):
I guess they call them ane-book.
Sorry, guys, terminologyescapes me sometimes, but in
there I talk about the twonear-death experiences that I
had and because of thoseexperiences, I give a story of a
(15:33):
dream that I had.
I used to call them nightterrors and in this dream I was
about I don't know seven oreight, when this happened and it
was literally.
I would wake up in cold sweat,screaming, running into my
(15:53):
mother's room because of what Isaw, experienced, smelt, I mean,
this dream was so vivid, it waslike me, but it wasn't me.
I found myself in a foreignland with like dragon teeth,
(16:13):
mountains, and I'm standing onthis hillside and there were
bullets like this long and thiswide around.
Come to find out that wasmortar and all I knew is they
were big, big-ass bullets.
Okay, oops, sorry, anyway, um,and I was standing, and this was
(16:34):
me in the dream, and I'mstanding there and green, green
snow is falling down because themortars had hit.
I had it overhead with thecanopy of the trees, and I'm
watching the precision of howaccurate the enemy was, because
it was just.
(16:54):
I didn't know why I was engagedin really seeing that precision
and my lieutenant was killed.
Um, I was trying to help someof the my wounded, um comrades
and um, all of a sudden I wakeup and I find myself screaming
(17:16):
and I could smell gunpowder, Icould smell the blood in the air
, the fear, and I wake up andI'm screaming and I run into my
mother's room and I'm like mom,mom, something's happening,
something's happened.
And I knew the energy, thefeeling was not of my brother.
My brother was there at thesame time and so my mother says
well, if this is an unknownsoldier, then we're going to
(17:39):
pray for him.
And she literally had to rockme.
I mean, I was terrified.
I mean this was wartime, I wasexperiencing everything.
And it wasn't until an adult,after I had met Lee Tuhawks,
probably about three years, fouryears after that, there was
(18:00):
just an experience that ithappened and it was like okay,
so I've got to tell him.
I had intuition of feeling thatI should make a mention of this
dream.
Come to find out.
The dream was of him.
He verified every single, everysingle piece, from the jagged
mountains to the mortar, to themortar, to the green snow,
(18:26):
everything, even who I wasworking on in the dream time.
So, was this dream?
Was this a break in reality?
Was this, I don't know?
Astral projection, astralprojection these were some of
(18:50):
the things, the differences ofworking with energy or stepping
into the flow in order to bringabout Now, at this time.
Did I understand it?
Oh, heck, no, I did not.
It scared the living bejesusout of me.
But all I knew is there wassome connection to someone.
I had no idea who it was, andso I mean, you can still read.
(19:11):
I didn't give everything away,um, from that short story, but
this is the idea that we live ina field of energy every single
day.
Whether you're eating, whetheryou're breathing, you know
whether there's an exchange of asmile.
It is energy.
Whether you love someone andhug them, that's an exchange of
(19:36):
energy.
And the more we understand howenergy really, really works, the
easier our lives become yes,yes, I, I, we're.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
We're really here to learn how to manage our energy,
and that was something it tookme such a long time to get.
I was like it's that simplegirl, it's that simple if I may,
if I may, bring a differentialto this.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
There's a difference and it's uncommon actually
between what we call astraltraveling, where the astral body
leaves the physical form whileyou're sleeping, etc.
And goes out and wanders andsees other worlds or other
happenings.
But the other aspect and it'sall energy, another aspect of
energy is where yourconsciousness leaves, so that
(20:26):
goes beyond.
Their consciousness is layered.
Right now we live in a field ofconsciousness that only brings
us so far if we elevateourselves.
Consciousness is still there,but at a higher level, and it
goes on and out throughout theuniverse until finally you, you
(20:47):
extend yourself to the finalpoint of recognizing one yeah,
yeah, I, I like that you broughtthat up.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
I think we, we, we only begin to see things when
we're ready to and when, yes,the we've achieved the, the work
that is uh, needed to be ableto be open to things.
So most of my experience withpsychic visions have been things
that have just a lot of itcomes in my dreams, sometimes in
the daytime, but once, once, Ireally had healed a lot of my,
(21:18):
my, my junk and I think this istrue for most people, cause I
think that's that's the blockagethat prevents us from really
expanding our.
I had an experience last yearwhere I was getting increasingly
concerned about Donald Trumpand this is not about politics,
to be clear for people and I wasgoing on the rooftop in the
Brooklyn building.
I lived in and meditating upthere and allowing myself to
(21:44):
rest in the highestconsciousness I had achieved,
and I kept getting.
I could hear men, a handful ofmen, talking about him and they
were planning something.
And then and then I startedseeing a sharpshooter on a
rooftop and two days beforePennsylvania, I got a very
distinctive vision of that andI'm getting chill bumps all over
(22:07):
my body and I I understood inthat that moment that, because I
had had worked to break downsome of a lot of my, my junk, um
, I was being, you know, allowed, if you will, to to uh allowing
myself, and I think this isthis isn't about being special.
You know, I'm not showing thesestories to say, oh look, I'm
(22:28):
special it's that this issomething that we are all
capable of.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
And I think that's one of us.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
You know we go through the trial and the error
right.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
We try this and okay, we fall flat on that.
Whether it be even trustingthat intuition, you get that
(22:59):
feeling.
Maybe it's in you.
You get a gut feeling.
Or you might get pains in theyou know, behind your shoulder
blades.
Or you get the.
You know the chills, thetingles like the back of your
neck, like hey, pay attention.
Or you might get the chillswhere it's like ah, yeah, I'm
(23:20):
correct on that, you know, youcall them the good chills.
Or you get the spidey senses.
Um, so I think that that itjust comes to being that each
and every single person has thisability.
It's innate within us.
Our bodies are energy right andelectromagnetic in resonance,
(23:46):
and so we're receptors, we'refeelers, and I call them like
those popcorn thoughts.
And so we're receptors, we'refeelers, and you know, I call
them like those popcorn thoughts.
You know, even when I was a kid, as a child medium which I was
horrendously mocked for, I meanlike I'm not telling stories out
of class here.
(24:14):
It's like anybody in childhoodand you know it's hard because
there was nobody really aroundto help us navigate it.
We really kind of had to figureit out.
Maybe some great uncle or auntsomewhere may give us a little
bone to chew on, but other thanthat we were pretty much left to
our own devices I mean on anaverage general generalization
(24:35):
and so we just kind of had towing it and just being mocked
and being shunned and because ofyou know how somebody believes
something to be.
But yet here we are, are andwe're sitting right in front of
you and we are no different thananyone else and you have the
(24:56):
same abilities.
It's just, if you choose to gowithin and and just become
silent for a minute, I mean youget images, you know signs,
symbols, even through dream time, through.
I mean you ever just do dishesand you're standing there, you
kind of zone out and you're like, wow, those got done quick.
(25:20):
Or you might be driving downthe road and time just vanishes.
How'd I get here?
I don't remember passing.
So you know, and it's kind oflike that, it's like a hypnotic
aspect.
But during that time,information, whether you call it
daydreaming or whatever.
That is like information coming, whether it be a creative thing
(25:42):
, like oh, I should paint thispainting, or I should, you know,
market this one way, or, youknow, you just get those little
bits of inspiration, andinspiration is in spirit oh yes,
yes, it is.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Uh, I love that yeah I I want to re-emphasize that
that I think we, we do this.
There's a lot of spiritualbypassing in the spiritual
community and there's a lot ofcommercialization,
commodification of the spiritualworld and and, by nature of
that, it incentivizes us tohierarchy, uh, the system, and
(26:19):
you see this a lot with gurus,which is just a fancy word for
teacher.
Yeah, and you know, and I get,like, I get it, I understand
people trying to spread their,their beliefs and you know, uh,
and the world is designed to totell people that, you know, when
you can make a lot of money offof whatever it is, and you're,
um, you're, you're awesome andextra special, but, um, we're,
(26:39):
we're remembering what we'recapable of, because we've
forgotten as a world, we becameso caught up in the lower
vibrational energies and thosebase things that we've forgotten
.
And you know, I find itinteresting that there's so much
fascination with the Egyptianculture, the Sumerians and
things like that, and it's like,you know, we're, we're kind of
(27:01):
the same thing and we'resupposed to be, frankly, more
evolved.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
So, if that doesn't tell you that we're actually
kind of kind of going backwardsto go forward, know, you know
you make a really good pointbecause I will say it's like in
the title of the book.
You know that we have, you know, spiritual logic behind the
power of words and beliefs.
Energy is universal languageand in the book we um, you can
(27:28):
take any belief that you have it, it matters not.
And how many times do we have,like, a belief that carries
lower self-esteem?
That's also a belief.
You may have a political or areligious or a cultural or an
educational, even a bias.
I mean, come on, doctors, go toschool and they get 20 minutes
(27:51):
of education on nutrition.
Right, but nutrition is whatactually heals the body.
And so when you speak to adoctor and you're talking about
nutrition I mean even years ago,but they're like deaf, they
don't hear it, it's like no,take this pill.
So recognize that.
Any belief that we have, we canhold that belief and challenge
(28:16):
it up against the energy of loss.
It doesn't mean it can give youa valid like you're.
You're way over here onto theright, you're over here onto the
left, yes or no, or in themiddle.
It kind of gives you a gauge,because if that belief system is
kind of out of whack, thenyou're not in the flow with the
(28:39):
universe.
You're not in the flow with theenergy.
For instance, all animals, allyou know, rocks, minerals,
kingdom, all of that followkingdom.
All of that follow the energyof laws, a, a.
A fox is not going to behavelike a cougar, or even a blade
of grass, they're only going tobehave for that species.
(29:04):
And so with us, we get to makedifferent choices.
We have a differentconsciousness, but when our
beliefs, or what we think aboutourselves, all beliefs, are
learned, we either adopt them orwe learn them or they were
jammed down.
Our windpipe is, as children,period, and so we can take that
(29:25):
and literally, with checks andbalances, and see how does what
does the end, what does the, theenergy of the universe say
about it?
Are we out of whack?
Are we in balance?
Can we move?
Can we move forward in a verygracious, compassionate and
loving way and embrace us ashumanity in our own evolution?
(29:50):
Or maybe that's the wrong word.
Expansion of consciousness?
Um, any of those differentterminology fits different.
You know different people forwhere their journey is.
But the more we understand onlaw, the easier it is to
navigate.
(30:10):
When we speak about words, forinstance, how many people?
There's a couple of words I donot use in my vocabulary.
I've given them up.
I gave them up for Lent.
Why?
Because they're not a creativeforce.
And guess what those two wordsare?
They actually sound like swearwords.
And it's very difficult for meto say these words because it's
(30:34):
like a really swear word wantand need.
Think about it.
What does want and needactually mean?
It means lack.
But when people are workingforward and saying, well, I need
a new job, I need to do this, I, you know.
Um, I want a better car, well,the universe is saying that's so
(30:57):
good, now you're going to wantit and need it because nowhere
in there have you asked toreceive it.
And want and need means lack,so it's not available to you at
this time.
So if you walk into and you aretuning in to the law of
abundance, want and need is anoxymoron kind of voiding the law
(31:20):
because they don't recognize it.
The law of abundance does notrecognize lack.
So why would it recognize theword want or need?
It's logic.
I mean, even in human logic itdoesn't make sense to try to
create something from behind theeight ball.
And so what would be a betterterminology With a vast
(31:43):
dictionary in any language.
Is that as creative as we canget?
How about I desire this?
Ooh, that's a big one.
I am creating this, I ammagnetizing this to come into my
field of resonance.
This is mine, I am complete, Iam this.
(32:04):
What ceo?
I am the ceo of this companynow and and the resumes there.
You've done your interview, soit's far different in in.
So in our book, we give a fewdifferent things for energy the
words and the vibration.
(32:25):
How does want or need sound toyou when you actually say it
does it?
Does it not sound different?
Or you numb to that?
There's a frequency, a rhythmof vibration, of resonance with
all words.
Why not make an efficient useof the energy around us?
(32:47):
And guess what?
The speed to which, if yourelease those words, the speed
to which you can manifest, ismicro fast, yeah no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
I I totally agree with you.
I do a lot of live streams andI I get asked a lot of questions
like is johnny gonna ask me toget married?
Am I going to move in withBilly?
And I'm like, stop stop being apick me to start with.
But you know, start askingyourself do I want Johnny or
Bobby or Billy?
(33:21):
Or you know, catherine, orwhoever it is, and is this a
person that's going to help mecontinue to evolve?
Are they going to be?
in addition to my life or adirect like.
You're not asking the rightquestions.
You're saying I need, I want,and you're also trying to set a
destination point for arelationship which, when you do
that with situations, people andthings, when you say I need to
(33:46):
get there with somebody else'senergy being, you're trying to
manifest a human being.
You can manifest outcomes inyour own life, but when you get
involved in trying to manifestthe choices of another person.
Not only are you corrupting theprocess, but you're putting
you're putting in a gps endpoint into life and then
(34:06):
ignoring all the green and redflags those opportunities to
make different decisions alongthe way, because you've decided
where you need to be and you'veassigned somebody a special
place in your life without evenknowing.
You feel like them, which Ithink is one of the reasons why
so many people end up married tosomebody they don't even like,
and it's like did you decidethat you were gonna?
Were they just available whenyou were ready to get married?
Speaker 3 (34:34):
Anyway, that's it ready to get married anyway?
Oh no, oh yeah, I hear you andagain, it's a choice.
I mean, if you know these wordswork for you and you don't, you
know, then carry on your merryway.
It's just what we share in abook is information, and it's up
to each individual, if itresonates with them and if they
choose to work, go forward.
It's just.
You know I.
I just know, um, even in our,our personal lives, that for us,
(34:57):
manifesting is a byproduct.
It's not a focus, it's abyproduct yeah, that's that.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
That's what practice I think leads to um, can we see
the book and and can you justtell our listeners what the name
of the book is?
Speaker 3 (35:11):
Yes, well, I don't know if I can hold it up.
Yeah, you can see it, can yousee that?
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Spiritual Logic Behind the Power of Words and
Beliefs, energies, universalLanguage, artisans of the Spirit
, C Shadow Fox and Lee Two Hawks.
I love that.
Congratulations, I'm so excited, can you?
Tell our listeners wherethey'll be able to get the book
and approximately when it willbe available.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Okay, the book.
Right now, the physical book isavailable.
Um, you can order it on Amazon.
You can order it to any of yourfavorite bookstores.
Uh, ingram Sparks also carriesit.
So even if you are like a bookdistributor or have you know you
can, you can definitely get itthat way, um, but any bookstore
(35:58):
you can order it from, or amazonand it.
The, the paperback is available.
The um ebook will be shortly.
Okay, I'm doing one thing at atime, guys.
Sorry that's my bad, but yeah,hopefully very shortly the
e-book will be available.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
I think we have to get to a place where we don't
assign judgment.
It's like so the paperbacksavailable first.
That's a great way to promotethe paperback instead of
emphasizing another one, likeit's just a different choice,
it's.
There's not neither right norwrong right and I and I'm, and
I'm still guilty.
You know, for those of you whoare listening, we know we're so
hard on ourselves.
(36:42):
Perfectionism is usually atrauma response and, um, we
judge ourselves based on whatwe've been, we've had, drilled
into our heads, makes us a goodor bad or, you know, effective
or not effective, and it's likeso much garbage.
Yeah, a lot of the things Iwhen I said I mean I love being
at this place in my life becauseI look at a lot of the things
(37:02):
that I used to really buy into,like celebrity culture used to
be a huge part of my world as anentertainment and and a fashion
publicist, and now I literallycringe when I see anything
that's celebrity related becausethe the vapidness and low
vibration of the entirestructure of it just and it's
not a judgment of the people,it's it's about it's low
vibrational um.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
So you know everything.
Everything is changing withinthis paradigm shift.
It really is, and our awarenessin how to conduct business, how
to be and so many people areusing that, the word being
authentic or whatever and I willjust say that I know this book
(37:46):
carries a resonance and thosewho have open hearts, those who
have open minds and those whoare looking to fill in missing
puzzle pieces could be questionsthey've had since childhood.
You may very well find them inthere.
Transformation it is a in somany different capacities,
(38:09):
because within the, within eachchapter, there are, there's a
story or an experience thateither lee, two hawks or I
express, and then we speak aboutsome of the laws of energy that
were applied or not applied ortotally chucked out the window
(38:29):
with that experience and we feltflat on our face.
So, again, there's it's.
It's it's a way of sharing partof our life's journey and
having you recognize that energyis around us and it's how
you're going to portray it andcreate your own reality.
(38:51):
So there may be one or twochapters in there that you may
struggle with, simply becausethat may not the information in
there may not be the specificpath that you're here to work on
at this point in time, but yetother chapters.
You might just validatesomething that you already know
(39:16):
or will give a deeperunderstanding for that.
So it's like one person willhave an entirely different
experience with this book thanwhat somebody else may have, and
that is the magic of this book.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
I'm so happy for you guys.
Congratulations on the book.
I don't think a lot of peoplerealize just what a labor of
love a book is, particularly onethat's designed to help people
continue just to discoverthemselves on their wonderful
hero's journey.
You are all, we are all on thehero's journey you are all we
are all on the hero's journey.
Yes, and uh, uh, I thinklearning that is such a powerful
(39:53):
moment for all of us.
Um, thank you, shadow fox, andthank you lee, two hawks, for
coming on uh the show andsharing your wisdom with us,
your experiences and your newbook.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
Congratulations again thank you, thank you so much
for this opportunity and I thankyou.
Thank you so much.
I'm a nicest.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Thank you, I look forward to seeing you on X.
To our subscribe.
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And to support the spreading ofthe um, the, my belief, Uh, and
(40:34):
, and I think many people in thespiritual communities believe
that the raising humanconsciousness is an answer to
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It is.
It teaches people how to managetheir mental and emotional
health and guides them towardsliving the most beautiful
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If you are not familiar with mywork, please go to
shamanisiscom and check out mybooks.
I have three there.
(40:55):
Proud to say proud, not a greatword, but happy to say, after a
lot of work and a lot offailure, that all three were
bestsellers, and I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
Awesome Congratulations.
Yeah, seriously Thank you.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
You can also access the show there and learn about
events.
I have a speaking tour comingup in the starting in September.
You can learn about thespeaking engagements that I have
around, actually around theworld now.
Anyway, sending you guys love,be sure and subscribe and
support the show and share yourcomments and we'll see you guys
(41:30):
during the next show.
Thanks, shadow fox and lee, twohawks, and good luck with the
book.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
thank, you so much, thank you bye, you guys bye.
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