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June 18, 2020 63 mins

Kari connects Andy to his grandmother (while discovering for the first time he played bass on stage at a concert she saw), as he talks about rediscovering the creative power of boredom during this moment in the world, all about "So in Love," who the "Tesla Girls" are, the dichotomy of joyously dancing to "Enola Gay," thoughts of Joan of Arc, Edward Hopper and "Night Cafe," that important moment his life path intersected with Paul Humphreys, thinking about time now, writing songs that's a conversation with yourself and knowing when it resonates in your soul, songs that are the soundtrack of life's journey and that are engrained in our hearts and souls, the moment in his life when "If You Leave" happened, what he does when he wants to ground and unplug from this digital era.

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