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April 28, 2025 35 mins

Are you chasing perfection…only to watch everything crumble?

Join Matt and bestselling author Katherine Center as they reveal the paradox that our greatest failures and darkest moments often become the catalysts for true happiness. 

Katherine reveals her personal journey of studying happiness and how it has influenced her writing. From line dancing classes to pickleball adventures, explore how stepping out of your comfort zone can lead to unexpected moments of connection and growth. 

Join us for practical wisdom about creating a "culture of appreciation" in relationships and why looking for small moments of joy—even on our worst days—can revolutionize our lives. 

0:00 Introduction

1:27 Helen's journey from perfection to happiness

6:50 Finding wisdom through life's challenges

11:42 Stories as virtual reality for human experiences

15:37 Embracing vulnerability in social connections

19:28 How characters change: Plot as catalyst

23:24 Keys to living a happier life

27:42 Creating a culture of appreciation in relationships

31:29 The Bodyguard: Writing joy during dark times

Resources Mentioned:

📚 "Happiness for Beginners" by Katherine Center

📚 "The Bodyguard" by Katherine Center

🌐 John and Julie Gottman's relationship research: https://www.gottman.com/

About the Guest

Katherine Center is a New York Times bestselling author known for her heartwarming and transformative stories. Her novel "Happiness for Beginners" was adapted into a popular Netflix movie, and her book "The Bodyguard" has received widespread acclaim with over 29,000 five-star reviews on Amazon. Katherine's writing focuses on characters who find wisdom and growth through life's challenges, inspiring readers to embrace joy and resilience in their own lives.

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