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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the Good
Neighbor Podcast, the place
where local businesses andneighbors come together.
Here's your host, Doug Drohan.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Hey everyone, welcome
to another episode of the Good
Neighbor Podcast.
Today we are welcoming back DrDavid Abramson, who is one of
the best and most renownedplastic surgeons in the area, in
the area being northern NewJersey and New York City.
Dr Abramson, welcome back tothe show.
Thank you for having me again.
So this month meaning well,it's not quite May, but the May
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issue of Neighbors Magazine justcame out and you have an
article again, and this timeit's talking about Avalie, and I
want to get into what thesenovel technologies are.
Not only that, but Emsculpt Neo, because part of the you know,
part of the services, I guess,that you provide.
You know there's thetraditional plastic surgery that
people think about, but thenthere's also these in-office
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treatments that can really help.
You know people's appearanceand, by extension, you know how
they feel about themselves.
So you chose to write aboutAbilene.
Let's, let's get into that.
So what is that?
Speaker 3 (01:08):
So, and I'll just
correct the pronunciation it's a
belly, but that's okay.
So it's a treatment forcellulite and you know every
woman, or almost every woman,knows what cellulite is and it
actually is only a problemreally in women.
It's just dimpling of the skin,where the skin is basically
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scarred down to the underlyingmuscle.
So you get these dimples andthere's been a million things
over the years to try and treatcellulite and none of them have
been particularly effective orthey've had super long recovery
times.
So what this technology is,it's what we call minimally
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invasive, meaning you have tomake a little tiny hole to do it
, but you can address thosedimples by actually cutting
those bands.
So the way the process works issomeone who comes in and we
evaluate them, for you know theareas where the cellulite is.
Usually it's the back of thethighs, sometimes it's the
buttocks, and you know we canusually treat most of the areas
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in a single setting and it isreally a one-time treatment.
So what we do is we mark all thelittle dimples with little
circles and then we'll put theperson you know laying on their
stomach and we provide somelocal anesthetic to the area and
we can usually also give somegas to help with that discomfort
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so that they don't have painwhile we're doing the procedure
and then we literally go in withthis device and it slides past
the little band and we pull onit and it has a little knife in
it and it cuts the band.
So once that band's cut it'scompletely released and the
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person then afterwards usuallywears a little bit of
compression stockings for a few.
You tell them to wear for aweek, but there's usually some
bruising for about three or fourdays.
That's moderate, and I tellpeople no exercise for at least
a week to 10 days, but otherthan that they could go back to
work the next day, things likethat.
It's really not a big problemin terms of the recovery or pain
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and it does seem to reallyaddress cellulite so that the
legs and buttocks look muchbetter.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
It's funny, I always
thought cellulite was something
that you is caused maybe by fatdeposits or when you get out of
shape, and it's, you know, Ididn't realize that it's more
about the structure of themuscles.
You know, I thought it wassomething more.
That kind of becomes more likea fatty deposit.
I had no idea.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Yeah, it's actually
there's.
You don't see the fat in thatspot because of these tethered
areas and when you manage thesepeople I mean, some people used
to come in for liposuction forit.
Liposuction of anythingprobably makes cellulite worse.
You know, significant weightgain and weight loss do make
these things worse as well.
So you know, and we are seeingmore and more people with
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significant weight loss with thevarious GLP-1 drugs and things
like that.
So I think we're going to seemore loose skin and more evident
cellulite.
But it's important to seesomeone who can say this is
loose skin, this is cellulite,because the wrong treatment is
not going to solve the issue.
If you really have so muchloose skin frequently, the only
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way to get rid of it is toactually cut out the loose skin.
But if you have cellulite, youcan address it with a belly and
the procedure is easilytolerable in the office and
people do very well.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
I mean it's
reassuring to know you can have
it done in a day and it's not,like you said, liposuction,
which seems a lot more invasive.
Now you also.
There's something else that Imentioned called M-Sculpt Neo.
Now, is that another technology, like treatment procedure,
that's used for cellulite?
Speaker 3 (05:06):
No, it's for
completely different areas.
Now, m-sculpt Neo does twothings.
It has two areas of technologytogether.
One is radiofrequency, whichwill help reduce fat, and the
other is HyFem, which is musclestimulation variety of different
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body parts and depending onwhat area you're treating, you
may be trying to reduce fat more, you may be trying to build up
muscle more.
So the most common area peopledo is their abdomen, and what
happens is is the device doestwo things.
One is it goes through a processof this hyphen, which is many,
many stimulations to the muscle.
So they say it's like theequivalent of doing 20,000
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crunches in 30 minutes.
So um, and it's a series oftreatments.
Usually we do a series of aboutsix treatments a week apart,
and now it's flexible.
No one's schedule is is perfectfor every week on the same day
and same time, but the treatmentshould follow between five and
10 days after each other.
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And it also has a radiofrequency part that will help
reduce some fat.
And now I know the concept of30,000 crunches sounds terrible,
like you'll be in so much pain.
But to be honest with you, Iactually did it myself and I did
my abdomen, I did my flanks,and the first time I did it I
was a little sore the next dayfor about 24 hours and then I
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was fine and it definitely doesincrease your muscle tone.
I mean, personally, I tookpictures of me from the side and
, without weight loss, I looked,my stomach looked thinner, just
from the muscle, you know,having more strength.
Now you can use it.
There's various areas.
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You can use it on the buttocks,and people use that to build up
their butt muscles as opposedto having to go do a lot of
squats.
It can be used on the thighsand it can be even be used on
the arms, the biceps and tricepsto build muscle.
And it can even be used on thearms, the biceps and triceps to
build muscle in those areasBecause, you know, not everyone
has enough time to go to the gymand try and work every area out
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.
But if you can increase thetone of the muscles on the arms,
you can make the arms look lessflabby and look more youthful
as you maybe go into your 40s,50s and 60s.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Now, is it just about
appearance, or does it actually
help improve or augmentstrength and endurance?
I mean, it sounds likesomething that athletes might,
kind of you know, gravitatetowards.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
I mean, you know it
is helping build some muscle.
It's not.
You know, it may be more of atoning than strength per se.
There are definitely have beenathletes that have added this to
a workout regimen to makethings look better on top of
what they're doing.
But so there's definitely avariety of benefits to it.
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Like when we use it on thebiceps though we use only the
high fem, we don't use the radiofrequency because nobody really
has fat over their biceps, soyou don't want to take fat out
in those spots.
You want to focus that onbuilding muscle.
You know you may have a personwho's trying to build muscle on
their buttocks, so you don'twant to take fat out in their
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buttocks, whereas you may havesomeone else who's trying to
actually maybe tone up theirbutt but actually get rid of
some of the fat.
So these things are adjustableand you know we can tailor the
treatment to the person and whatthey're looking for.
And when you look at thisdevice, there's actually
different hand pieces.
So you know there's ones thatgo on the abdomen, there's ones
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that go on the flank, thenthere's other ones that might be
used on the arms and legs, andthey get done in pairs so you
can actually do both flanks atthe same time, or both buttocks
at the same time, or both armsat the same time.
It's actually entertaining towatch a video of someone who's
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having their breastfed bicepsdone, because when it contracts
their bicep it actually willcontract their arms, so their,
their arms will flop up and downand, uh, you know, from the
table.
So it's it's a little bitentertaining to watch.
So right.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
So how many
treatments do you normally, uh,
or how many sessions ortreatments does one normally
have?
Speaker 3 (09:29):
It's usually a series
of of six sessions for a given
body part.
Okay, Um, you know we'll do,and frequently people do more
than one body part.
They might do like the abdomenand flanks together, or they may
have the abdomen and somethingelse.
It really depends on theiranatomy.
And each treatment of an areais about 30 minutes.
So you know it's not really abig deal.
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You know, each time someonedoes it, we do adjust it.
It tends to get a little bitstronger in terms of the
percentage of high fem that weuse, because you want to bring
it out to what the person cantolerate, you know, in terms of
their comfort, but giving themthe most result.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Right, right.
And then so you're saying sixsessions.
What are they about?
A week apart?
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Yes, about a week
apart, and if someone is happy
with the result and they want tobuild more, we usually tell
them to wait about three monthsand then they can do another set
if they want.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
And how long does it
usually last?
Like the noticeable effects?
Speaker 3 (10:27):
You know, it's kind
of hard to tell because it
depends on how active someoneremains.
But, probably you couldmaintain by doing something once
a year, you know a set a year,wow Assuming you do something
and just don't become completelysedentary between.
This can't be the only form ofphysical activity.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
No, no, it's supposed
to be, you know, to supplement,
uh, not to replace.
So I'd imagine you know you'regoing on a beach vacation in a
month or so and maybe this isone reason why people might come
in to see'd imagine you knowyou're going on a beach vacation
in a month or so and maybe thisis one reason why people might
come in to see you.
Or you know they're gettingready for the class reunion or
their daughter's wedding orwhatever it is, and maybe
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they're already active.
But there's just this one part,and they want to see more
immediate results than what allthe hours in the gym are giving
them.
Is that a typical or not?
Maybe a typical, but an exampleof some of your clients.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Yes, I think that
there's usually people who have
a body area focus, they want toimprove, and they also aren't
somebody necessarily looking forsurgery.
Now, this tends to treat thingsvery different than surgery,
because you're building muscle.
So I think there's somesignificant differences, but it
is addressable and you do see aresult in about six weeks.
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So if you plan, maybepre-summer, I'm going to start
to do this.
So you know, maybe have alittle less stuff hanging off
the side of the bathing suit.
You know, when I put my shortson and things like that.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Right yeah, it's been
a long winter and you know,
with that bathing suit you'rewhen I put my shorts on, things
like that Right yeah, it's beena long winter and you know,
you're like what happened, man.
Now that's interesting and Ihad also imagined you know out
in Hollywood when it comes toaward season.
It was funny I think it was theGolden Globes, or Nikki Glaser
made a joke about all the peopleusing a Zen pic that were in
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the room, but there was quite afew people in that room also
doing Emsculpt and otherprocedures and side effect wise,
it doesn't sound like there arequite as few or quite as many
side effect or risks involved,correct?
Speaker 3 (12:32):
No, that's been shown
to be very safe.
I mean, the original Emsculptmachine came out about eight or
10 years ago, so this was asecond generation and they've
actually you know, they docontinual upgrades in terms of
software and things like that,so it's very safe.
I mean, we haven't encounteredany issues with someone having
it in terms of any side effects.
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You know more than someonemaybe being sore for two days
instead of one day.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
But Right, right.
Well, I think this is a goodtime because it's, you know,
coming to the end of April,we're getting into the summer
season and, as he said, if youknow you need to work out I mean
work a plan six weeks inadvance.
This is the time to start.
So what's the best way forpeople to contact you to
schedule a consultation?
Speaker 3 (13:19):
The best way is
either call the office, which is
201-731-3134, or you can simplyemail reception at drabramson.
com and my staff will get backto you and we'll get you into,
because I have to take a look atyou to determine if you're a
candidate for m sculpt neo.
My nurse actually used that,uses the machine.
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The aveli is done by me.
So even though it's a uh, eventhough it's a minimally invasive
procedure, I do that myself andit that does take longer.
It's probably an hour, could bea little, could be an hour and
a half, depending on you knowhow much cellulite you have and
how many areas.
I mean.
The more you have, the longerit takes, because it just takes
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a certain amount of time to numbit up and it takes a certain
amount of time to actuallyaddress each band.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Got it, got it.
And do you have multiplelocations?
Or is your main office that youperform this in Englewood, or
is your main office that youperform this in Englewood?
Speaker 3 (14:16):
I do this in
Englewood.
The Emskull machine is too bigto move On a valley.
If someone was coming to me inmy city office I could do it,
but it's just easy enough to onetime.
You come to the office and Ialso have the Pronox machine,
which gives you some nitrous andmakes you comfortable as well.
So I think it's good to haveyou know, make people
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comfortable and then they canstill drive home themselves
afterwards.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Okay, okay, great,
this is.
This is really interesting.
And again the the articleappears in the May issue of
Neighbors of Closter, demersonHallworth.
Dr Abramson, thank you so muchfor being on the show and we'll
see you again soon.
Thank you very much.
Take care.
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