June 23, 2025 • 26 mins
The magic of music starts early. Just ask Miss Carly, whose four-month-old students instinctively rock back and forth when her guitar begins to strum. That's the beauty of what she's created with Saddle River Song – music and movement classes where the youngest children discover their natural musical abilities.
As a classically trained clarinetist with degrees from Eastman School of Music and Columbia University's Teachers College, Miss Carly brings serious credentials to her playful approach. "I've always known I was put on this earth to encourage a lifelong love of music with others, specifically with children," she shares. Growing up with a jazz pianist father who fostered her musical passion, she's now passing that gift to a new generation throughout Bergen County.
The pandemic prompted her pivot from leading a Manhattan school's music department to creating Saddle River Song, filling a need she discovered through a mom's group that grew to 200 members seeking activities for their little ones. Her classes incorporate percussion instruments, movement, props like the beloved parachute, and always end with bubbles and dance parties. Beyond regular sessions, she offers themed holiday classes, birthday parties, and specially designed sensory-friendly classes for children on the autism spectrum.
For families who can't make it to in-person classes, Miss Carly created an innovative solution: "Miss Carly's Car Rides," a podcast combining music education with stories for children 18 months to 5 years old. This screen-free option transforms Bergen County traffic jams into educational opportunities, teaching active listening through engaging content.
Whether in Park Ridge, Fairlawn, Paramus, or through headphones during family drives, Miss Carly's approach centers on experiencing music before reading it – "the same way we learn language." As she explains, everyone has a heartbeat; we're all naturally musical. Join her classes and watch your child's innate musical abilities bloom. Subscribe at saddleriversong.com for weekly updates and exclusive discounts, or follow @SaddleRiverSong on Instagram to connect with this musical movement.
Saddle River Song
Miss Carly Bickoff
Fair Lawn, New Jersey, Fair Lawn, NJ, United States, New Jersey
(203) 837-7998
saddleriversong@gmail.com
saddleriversong.com
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the Good Neighbor Podcast, the place
where local businesses andneighbors come together.
Here's your host, Doug Drohan.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Hey, good morning everyone.
Welcome to another episode ofthe Bergen Neighbors.
Well, it's the Good NeighborPodcast brought to you by the
Bergen Neighbors Media Group.
Today we are joined by MissCarly, who explained why she
goes by that name of SaddleRiver Song.
Welcome to the show.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Thank you so much, so glad to be here.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Yeah.
So, miss Carly, you are amusician, right?
And Saddle River Song is allabout bringing, I guess, the
love of music to young people,right?
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Yes indeed, yes indeed.
So I am Carly, otherwise knownas Miss Carly to our little ones
here in Bergen County, and I doown Saddle River Song and it's
a music and movement businessthat offers grown up in me, you
know, mommy and me style classesfor babies, toddlers and kids
here in the area.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
So when you say kids like, how old do they go?
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Great question.
So some classes are gearedtowards, like the really little
ones, like ages zero to two,Like sometimes I'll have you
know itty bitties and thensometimes I'll have up to six or
seven, even Um, but typicallythe six and seven year olds are
there with a younger sibling.
Uh yeah, I would say mostly twoand three year olds.
(01:26):
That's like my target age.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Okay, okay.
So how did you like what's yourjourney?
I mean, we talk about musicaljourneys all the time, but like,
how did you get A to become amusician and B to start this
business?
Like why?
Speaker 3 (01:43):
I love answering this question because it's so simple
and straightforward for me.
I've always known that I wasput on this earth to encourage a
lifelong love of music withothers, and specifically with
children.
My father is a jazz pianist.
He fostered a very deep love ofmusic within me from a young
(02:04):
age and all throughout mychildhood I knew I wanted to be
a music teacher Like I've knownnothing else you know since then
.
I went to undergraduate schoolfor music performance and music
education up at the EastmanSchool of Music in Rochester,
new York, and then I went tograduate school for music
education at ColumbiaUniversity's Teachers College.
So I was like this is what Iwant to do and I don't want to
(02:29):
age myself, but I've been doingthis for about 20 years and I'm
never going to do anything else.
It's just, it's my life'spassion, it's in my lifeblood,
and I was in the school systemsfor a very long time.
Most recently I was leading thelower school music department
at Trevor Day School inManhattan a wonderful, wonderful
(02:50):
place and I never would haveleft.
But the pandemic hit and,interestingly, music classes
were very affected by it becauseall of a sudden there was no
more singing, no more playinginstruments, especially with
mouthpieces where you're blowingair through an instrument, no
more rehearsing together,performing together in groups.
(03:12):
So between the pandemic and thengetting pregnant with my first
son in 2020, I kind of knew thatthe course of my career would
take a turn and I wasn't exactlysure what kind of turn that
would be.
Career would take a turn and Iwasn't exactly sure what kind of
turn that would be, but I didknow that I wasn't going to
leave music education and I knewI would eventually return and
you know it did.
(03:32):
And when the time was right andthe pandemic eased, I started
Saddle River Song my ownbusiness, you know, knowing that
I needed a bit more flexibilityin my schedule as a parent, but
, most importantly, because Isaw a need in the area and you
know there's plenty of musicclasses around, but there's
always more and more youngchildren whose parents want to
(03:53):
see their kids love music andtheir lives to be enhanced by it
.
And so here we are.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Wow, so um a little bit of commonality.
I worked, I used to work, inthe music industry.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
For Sony Music?
Yeah, back in the 90s.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Oh wow, Talking about dating yourself.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Yeah, up until 2004, when Napster came around and
kind of destroyed the musicindustry.
But I play guitar.
I don't consider myself amusician.
I didn't go to college like youdid.
You're a musician.
You're a musician, yeah didn'tgo to college like you did.
You're a musician, yeah, andthe more I watch these
documentaries, like it allstarts with a song, this great
documentary on on prime aboutthe nashville songwriting
(04:33):
community, um, I realize, Irealize, I guess I was a
songwriter.
I'm a songwriter, but you are,the point I'm getting to is I I
worked part-time when I went tocollege in the city at two
private schools Trinity Schooland Allen-Stevenson School.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
On the Upper East Side.
I know both.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
I know both Totally different cultures between the
Upper East Side and Upper WestSide.
Oh yes, the kids I dealt withon Allen-Stevenson were a little
bit tougher than the laid-backparents I had on the Upper West
Side.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Right.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Yep, I was Upper West , they were artsy, the laid back
parents I had on the Upper WestSide, right.
Yep, I was Upper West, so onthe Upper West Side at Trinity
we had some kind of music showand I wrote a song called
Frankenstein that the kidsactually danced to while I
played it.
So it was about how I lost myhead.
I forgot all these things.
(05:23):
I felt just like Frankenstein.
I had no mind.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
How do we hear this?
I'd like to hear this you knowwhat.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Here's my biggest regret in life, because I've
never recorded it.
I've played it so many timesand I did it back then and I
should have had the guts to sayyou know what, let me see if I
can get this copyrighted.
And I did at one point go topeople I knew at Sony Music and
(05:51):
submitted some songs and I gotturned down and had I had the
tenacity that I have today in mynew business career, I wouldn't
have let one person's opinionyou know kill my spirit, but I
did.
I let one person, one person sayah, there's no hook, where's
the?
Because I actually performed asong in the talent show at my
university and I came in firstplace and it was a song called
(06:13):
son of a beach.
It was about the pollutiongreat name on the beaches.
This is before howard stern hadhis shows, son of a beach and
um, it was kind of a parody anduh, by the third verse everybody
was singing along with me and Icame in first and that was
recorded on video, but of courseI've lost that VHS.
So, but that I submitted tosomebody at Sony publishing and
(06:34):
they're like there's no hook andthat was the end of that.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Oh man.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Yeah, so I want to go back.
So when you study Eastman, sodo you have to play piano?
Do so, I want to go back.
So when you study Eastman, sodo you have to play piano?
Do you get to choose aninstrument, or do you have to
learn to play a number ofinstruments?
How does it work when you go toMA in music education.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Yeah, of course.
So so for Eastman.
So I double majored at EastmanBA in classical clarinet
performance and and also inmusic education.
So it's different depending onwhich school you go to, but I
would say you do have to have aprimary instrument that you go
in studying, and then, in orderto become a music teacher, you
(07:16):
do need to be, you know,somewhat competent on either
piano or guitar or something youcan play along with you know
that that you know where you'replaying chords along with the
kids.
So yeah, so I did both.
I was, you know, clarinetperformance, but that's really,
it's really tough to playclarinet, you know, in a grown
(07:37):
up in me style class, becauseyou can't speak at the same time
.
So, occasionally, you know,I'll, you know we'll do.
Oh, you know, clarinet'sinstrument of the day, here it
is and the kids love it, but Ireally mostly stick to guitar
and ukulele so that I can singand chat with the kids and their
parents during class.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Yeah, Having a dad who was into jazz.
Were you a Benny Goodman?
Benny.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Goodman, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Oh my gosh yes.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Yes, yeah, and my dad really just you know, he didn't
put the pressure on me, Like,of course I took piano lessons,
and you know, weekly, from agefive.
Um, but it was more about youknow.
I just want you to share mypassion of you know for music.
I just want you to love it andhe succeeded.
(08:23):
I love it, and that's all thatI want to share with everyone
around me too Was Rhapsody inBlue your.
Yes, yeah, that big clarinetsolo at the beginning, oh my
gosh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that'sgreat, for sure, yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
So what do you enjoy Now?
You have a five-year-old ofyour own now, but what do you
enjoy most about going?
And I five-year-old of your ownnow, but what do you enjoy most
about you know going and youknow I've talked to a lot of
people who had to pivot duringCOVID.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
And a lot of them, you know, feel like.
You know I could never go backto what I used to do, because
where I am now is where I wasmeant to be Right.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Do you feel?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
that and then like, where, like.
So you live in Bergen County, Iassume.
So where did this?
Did you feel that there was aneed for this?
Were people coming to you?
Did you?
Because you didn't?
Have a child.
Yet I mean, you just had, were,just you know, it wasn't like
you had a kid in the schoolsystem and you thought, oh, this
is something that it's lackingLike, where was that aha moment
for you?
Speaker 3 (09:20):
That's a good question because, as I think I
said before, the field Iwouldn't say it's saturated, but
there's definitely a lot ofoptions.
You know, especially in BergenCounty, there are so many parent
and me music classes that Ithink you know.
I guess, backtracking a littlebit, when I moved to Bergen
(09:43):
County, you know, during thepandemic I, you know it was so
isolating, I knew nobody.
I had had my first kid and Istarted a mom's group on
WhatsApp.
That was, you know, had likefive or six women in it and it
was like the only way we couldreally hang out with each other,
right with us and our babies.
And it just kind of grew andgrew slowly over time.
(10:07):
Before I knew it it had like 200women in it and people were
asking each other, you know,where can we go for this, where
can we go for this?
And I was like huh, like maybeI should, you know, maybe I
should start my own thing here.
And it was always kind of inthe back of my mind.
But until I was a parent myself, it didn't really, you know,
(10:29):
take hold of me.
Until I was like okay, like Ihad a kid, like I want to take
them to do something, you know.
And sure enough, my kids go tomy classes.
They mostly sit up front withme, you know, and pretend
they're the teacher too.
But yeah, I mean, I guess Ijust saw a need and there's, you
know, plenty of families to goaround for for all of us music
teachers.
And here we are.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
And there's something cute like when you see your,
your son or daughter at an earlyage start to dance around or be
affected by music, and it'samazing what music can do.
It's amazing, it's you knowit's primal and itimo and it's
involuntary.
They just hear a song and theystart dancing to it or want to
sing along to it.
Do you find it helps certainkids get out of their shells,
(11:13):
and maybe even kids with specialneeds?
Speaker 3 (11:17):
A hundred percent.
Going back to what you justsaid, and then I'll answer that
I love when I see during class.
I'll just start playing myguitar.
I look around the room andthere are babies four months old
, five months old, that justkind of start rocking back and
forth.
Nice, nice, most natural,intuitive movement.
(11:41):
You know, and you know, I hearparents say all the time like,
oh I, like I'm not musical, likeI can't carry a tune, like I'm
like, you've got a heartbeat.
You know, everyone's got aheartbeat you can you?
can you know what a steady beatis?
You know?
Um yeah, we're all, we're allborn with it.
And uh yeah, in terms of youappealing to lots of different
(12:03):
kids, I do.
I actually have done manysensory friendly classes for
kids on the spectrum inconjunction with a wonderful
group called the Work of HeartCounseling that's also here in
Bergen County and we invite inparents of special needs kids
who may otherwise feel likemaybe a little nervous about
(12:24):
bringing their kid, you know, toto a class.
And I, you know music,especially for kids who are on
the spectrum, is very powerful.
They love it, they arenaturally just like good at it.
It just speaks to them andthere's many ways that I make it
sensory friendly.
But even if I don't like thekids, just you really see them
(12:47):
come out of their shell and showtheir whole personality.
And the parents, they just theylove it because they get to see
their kids really blossomingand enjoying themselves and
being themselves.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
That's great, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
So tell us a little bit about the business itself.
So you, you, you will go toplaces like little gym or my gym
, or apple tree playhouse, and Inoticed you'll do a lot of
outdoor, I guess we'll call themconcerts, right.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Yeah, so as we're, we're into June and it feels
like it's, you know, august onthe surface of the sun yes, it
does so where are we today?
So this coming Wednesday you'replaying an apple tree playhouse
, which is in Westwood, which Ithink yes.
I had one of the owners on thecover of the magazine yep she
(13:38):
was in old Japan.
So tell me a little bit moreabout the different types of
classes and the different typesof I guess we'll call them
services that you have.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Sure, so classes are all throughout the week.
I have weekday classes, I'vegot weekend classes, which my
working parents love, andthey're all throughout Bergen
County.
So I mean I've taught inParamus, fairlawn, ridgewood
Park, ridge, englewood, franklinLakes, like everywhere.
I travel everywhere and you know, sometimes I do collaborations,
(14:09):
like this Wednesday with AppleTree Playhouse, which is nice,
especially when the weather'sthis hot, because they get you
know, the kids get a music classand then they get to explore
the gym, so it's kind of like ittakes up the whole morning, you
know before the parents know it, it's time for nap time and you
know, before the parents knowit, it's time for nap time and
you know some classes are gearedtowards, you know, the little
guys and then some are mixed age, but all of the classes are
(14:30):
really just highly interactive,educational and at the end of
the day I like to say they'rejust plain old fun.
My favorite thing is when youknow the grownups tell me like I
had such a great time, or thegrandparents especially I love
when the grandparents come,they're like that was such a
throwback.
I loved it.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
That's great.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Because I do a lot of classic songs too.
You know classic nursery rhymesthat everybody knows, so that
everyone can participate.
And yeah, the classes allfollow the same like overall
structure.
So we play a lot of differentinstruments, mostly handheld
percussion, so think likeshakers, tambourines, castanets,
(15:12):
uh, euros, things like that.
We move, we groove, we dance.
Movement is, of course, a hugepart of music education.
You know feeling, feeling themusic through your body, um, and
then we play with a prop, sothink like a toy part of music
education.
You know feeling, feeling themusic through your body.
And then we play with a prop,so think like a toy.
So like beach balls this week,or stuffies or scarves or
(15:32):
ribbons or the parachute, whicheverybody just loves.
The kids go nuts over it.
I try not to do it every class,but it's like sometimes they
just, you know, they startsaying parachute, Miss Carly.
And we always do bubbles anddance parties, which is so much
fun and yeah, we just, we justhave a great time just moving
(15:55):
and grooving our hearts out.
I also do a lot of themeclasses throughout the year for
major holidays.
So I'm doing July 4th classesthis week, a Stars and Stripes
sing-along, and people tend toget really dressed up, myself
included, and go all outcelebrating whatever holiday it
may be.
And then I also do birthdayparties.
(16:18):
A lot of the parents in myclasses will hire me to perform
at their kids' parties becausethe kid knows me and which I
love to do, because who doesn'tlove a party?
So I pop into parties onweekends, or sometimes I'll do a
daycare party and go in duringthe week if the parents want
something more low-key,something during the week.
(16:38):
And then the last part of mybusiness is that I think I
mentioned this before is that Ioffer music classes for kids on
the go.
For parents who can't make itto music class, you know, maybe
they have a really busy scheduleor they're full time working or
they have multiple kids withschedules that are crazy to
juggle.
So I have this podcast for kidsages 18 months to five that's
(17:03):
meant to be played in the carand aptly called Miss Carly's
Car Rides, and I started it afew months back and it's just
been a wild success, like waymore than I thought it would be,
I think because parents myselfincluded, I have kids under five
really struggle with how toentertain their kids in the car.
(17:24):
You know they buy like toy aftertoy that doesn't get used, and
they're dealing with traffichere in Bergen.
County and you know are wethere yet and they tend to like
not take long trips because ofhow chaotic the car can be with
kids and I.
Essentially it was weird, itjust like one day just came to
me, like I just I was like I'mgoing to solve this problem for
parents with this podcast, andwhat's interesting is that it's
(17:49):
a combination of music,education and stories and
conversation and there's nothingelse out there that I found in
the podcast world for kids thisage which I was like floored by,
because I was like why doesn'tthis exist?
Like there's podcasts of storiesfor kids, there's music for
kids, but there isn't anythingthat incorporates both together
(18:10):
the stories and the music or anymusic education podcast out
there.
So parents have been just likeloving knowing that they can
listen on the go and that theirkid is entertained and educated
and and it's been it's beengreat.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
So Wow, that's really cool so it's really fun.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Miss Carly's Car Rides you can find on Spotify or
any other podcast platform.
Yeah, Spotify and Apple rightnow, and then you know we'll see
where it takes me, but I'vereally been enjoying it.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
That's great.
So you record it, you'replaying and you're also giving
stories behind the songs.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then diving also into youknow straight up music ed.
Like this week I'm doing thisAmericana Mama episode and we're
listening to a bunch of youknow patriotic fanfare music and
we're learning all about thetrumpet and you know various
brass instruments all by ear.
So that's another thing, isit's you know a screen free
option and it's it's reallyteaching kids active listening
(19:09):
and yeah, I mean my kids like it.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
So that says something, because they're
probably pretty sick of my voice.
So my son, my son's 11.
He plays the trumpet, but hetold me, yeah, but he told me
he's not going to do it nextyear.
All of his friends dropped outand he, you know, he was like
the only.
I'm like come on, man, and Itry to turn them onto Miles
Davis and stuff like that.
And I have guitars sittingaround my house and a keyboard
(19:34):
and I don't play.
But you know, I can fiddlearound with it, and YouTube is
amazing to teach yourself stuff.
He hasn't gravitated to it but Iwas like trumpet.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
that's great man, keep it up and his teacher, you
know he got an A plus and he'slike oh, everybody gets an A.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
I'm like all him.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Yeah, I mean he has, he's got a foundation.
So truly I mean yeah, even ifyou pick up another instrument.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
When you're my age, you could be playing in jazz
bands and just write the fun ofit.
I mean, look at me, I pick upthe guitar.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
I play like every day , I just enjoy it Right, yeah, I
mean, like that's, that's thegoal, right, like that's it,
like you just want to be able to, you know, just have fun with
it.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Yeah, yeah.
So to get a little nerdy here,I see in your certification that
Annie Lennox has a class thatyou're certified.
No, just kidding.
It says Delcroze EurythmicsCertified.
Whatever that is.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Oh, yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
And then Orf Schulwerk, schulwerk.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Yes, or, and then?
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Orff Schulwerk?
Yes, orff Schulwerk.
So what are thosecertifications?
Speaker 3 (20:36):
I mean, I could get all technical and talk your ear
off all day, but I'll keep itshort and sweet, so I guess I'll
start with Orff Schulwerk.
So I have, I'm level threecertified there.
There's three levels as far asI know right now.
I think that's all they offerand it's really just music
through play.
It's very play-based it's verysound before sight-based meaning
(20:59):
.
We focus in the classroom, whenwe're using the Orff-Schulwerk
approach, on, instead of readingmusic, on feeling it and
singing it and producing itourselves and then going ahead
and reading very much.
You know, the same way that welearn a language, right?
We?
aren't asking babies to you know, read which is interesting
because there's there's so much,I think, confusion about that,
(21:23):
or really not confusion, butjust like lack of awareness in
the music world about what's inthe music education world, about
what's important.
You know, parents are like Ijust want my kid to be able to
read music, and that isimportant, but to be able to
experience the music is firstand foremost, comes first and
foremost, um.
So that's what that approach isall about.
And then Delcro's Eurythmics isreally just all about moving,
(21:47):
feeling music within your body.
So learning how to feeldifferent forms of music, like a
rondo in your body, learninghow to um express you know,
different um, different temposof music, you could say,
different um feelings.
Yeah, so it's all about kind ofembodying the music and nothing
(22:07):
to do with annie lennox anddave stewart.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
No, nothing zero.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
so yeah, both of those those courses really kind
of helped me just expand my,expand my mind about how to, how
to teach.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Yeah, so I want to go back one more time to your
upcoming classes now, or, or Iguess we call it classes.
But what?
Where is what do you do in ParkRidge, cause I see Park Ridge
as a location.
Do you have a studio?
Do you have a like a, alocation people come to.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Yeah, I'm glad you asked about that one.
That's actually my most popularlocation.
Well, park Ridge and Fairlawn,I would say, are dueling.
So, Park Ridge.
I rent out a wonderful spacethere it's First Congregational
Church on Pasquack Road, bigspace.
It's also used by a lot ofother businesses that cater to
young children's soccer shotsand Fit for Mom, and we all use
(23:04):
that space together and I teachthere indoors on Thursdays at 10
o'clock and at 1115 AM EveryThursday throughout the school
year.
In the summer I do not use thatlocation, so I'm only there
until, I think, july 3rd, andthen my Thursday classes are
moving back to Fairlawn, whichis where I live.
(23:24):
My classes in Fairlawn startedactually in my basement, but we
live in a small Cape and, youknow, before I knew it, I was
getting so much demand and Ikept having to say I'm so sorry.
you know class is full, class isfull and so I was like you know
what time to rent a spot here.
So I rent a.
(23:46):
I've got a location in Fairlawnon Saddle River Road that I
rent, and then I have an ElksLodge in Paramus, just four
minutes away, that I rent.
But if we can be outside, whichis just you know when it's not
like this outside, although Idid teach during the heat wave
last year, free class on MakeMusic Day, when it was 101
degrees in June.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
And.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
I don't know how I got through that class, but I
did.
But when we're outside we'reusually at Crest Hill Park in
Fairlawn, which is a reallyquiet, shady, wonderful park
with a playground and theoutside classes are just.
They're really chill, they'rereally.
It's a vibe, it's a vibe, butactually it's harder for me to
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teach outside.
There's a lot of factors thesound carries, the children
carry.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
They're off everywhere, but I still enjoy it
.
I do.
That's great.
So how would people um get incontact with you?
Which what's the best way toreach you?
Speaker 3 (24:43):
The best way is by joining my email list, um, at my
website, saddle river song.
com.
The website has a list of allmy upcoming classes by month, um
, and everything is only postedone month in advance because
I've got little kids and it'shard to plan.
But if they click subscribe atthe bottom, they'll get a list
of all the classes emailed tothem once a week and they also
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get some exclusive discountsthat are offered to my
subscribers only and bonuscontent for my podcast episodes
and some more perks podcastepisodes and some more perks.
And the other great way to keepup to date is through Instagram
by following Saddle River Songand Miss Carly's Car Rise for
the new podcast episodes, andthen you can also listen, you
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know, on Apple or Spotify if youwant to check it out there, and
that's pretty much it, that'syou know that's great.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
I hope to see people in class, yeah, yeah, no, this
is very cool and you know, Ithink, as I mentioned, I play
guitar so I'm always keen totalk to people like you and I
think it's great bringing youknow that experience to kids and
exposing them to it, and younever know where they go from
there, right it's so true.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Yeah, thank you so much.
Thank you for having me on theshow.
This was awesome yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Thank you for being a guest, and bear with me,
chuck's just he's going to takeus out and you and I'll be right
back.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Okay, all right.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
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Here's your host, Doug Drohan.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Hey, good morning everyone.
Welcome to another episode ofthe Bergen Neighbors.
Well, it's the Good NeighborPodcast brought to you by the
Bergen Neighbors Media Group.
Today we are joined by MissCarly, who explained why she
goes by that name of SaddleRiver Song.
Welcome to the show.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Thank you so much, so glad to be here.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Yeah.
So, miss Carly, you are amusician, right?
And Saddle River Song is allabout bringing, I guess, the
love of music to young people,right?
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Yes indeed, yes indeed.
So I am Carly, otherwise knownas Miss Carly to our little ones
here in Bergen County, and I doown Saddle River Song and it's
a music and movement businessthat offers grown up in me, you
know, mommy and me style classesfor babies, toddlers and kids
here in the area.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
So when you say kids like, how old do they go?
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Great question.
So some classes are gearedtowards, like the really little
ones, like ages zero to two,Like sometimes I'll have you
know itty bitties and thensometimes I'll have up to six or
seven, even Um, but typicallythe six and seven year olds are
there with a younger sibling.
Uh yeah, I would say mostly twoand three year olds.
(01:26):
That's like my target age.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Okay, okay.
So how did you like what's yourjourney?
I mean, we talk about musicaljourneys all the time, but like,
how did you get A to become amusician and B to start this
business?
Like why?
Speaker 3 (01:43):
I love answering this question because it's so simple
and straightforward for me.
I've always known that I wasput on this earth to encourage a
lifelong love of music withothers, and specifically with
children.
My father is a jazz pianist.
He fostered a very deep love ofmusic within me from a young
(02:04):
age and all throughout mychildhood I knew I wanted to be
a music teacher Like I've knownnothing else you know since then
.
I went to undergraduate schoolfor music performance and music
education up at the EastmanSchool of Music in Rochester,
new York, and then I went tograduate school for music
education at ColumbiaUniversity's Teachers College.
So I was like this is what Iwant to do and I don't want to
(02:29):
age myself, but I've been doingthis for about 20 years and I'm
never going to do anything else.
It's just, it's my life'spassion, it's in my lifeblood,
and I was in the school systemsfor a very long time.
Most recently I was leading thelower school music department
at Trevor Day School inManhattan a wonderful, wonderful
(02:50):
place and I never would haveleft.
But the pandemic hit and,interestingly, music classes
were very affected by it becauseall of a sudden there was no
more singing, no more playinginstruments, especially with
mouthpieces where you're blowingair through an instrument, no
more rehearsing together,performing together in groups.
(03:12):
So between the pandemic and thengetting pregnant with my first
son in 2020, I kind of knew thatthe course of my career would
take a turn and I wasn't exactlysure what kind of turn that
would be.
Career would take a turn and Iwasn't exactly sure what kind of
turn that would be, but I didknow that I wasn't going to
leave music education and I knewI would eventually return and
you know it did.
(03:32):
And when the time was right andthe pandemic eased, I started
Saddle River Song my ownbusiness, you know, knowing that
I needed a bit more flexibilityin my schedule as a parent, but
, most importantly, because Isaw a need in the area and you
know there's plenty of musicclasses around, but there's
always more and more youngchildren whose parents want to
(03:53):
see their kids love music andtheir lives to be enhanced by it
.
And so here we are.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Wow, so um a little bit of commonality.
I worked, I used to work, inthe music industry.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
For Sony Music?
Yeah, back in the 90s.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Oh wow, Talking about dating yourself.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Yeah, up until 2004, when Napster came around and
kind of destroyed the musicindustry.
But I play guitar.
I don't consider myself amusician.
I didn't go to college like youdid.
You're a musician.
You're a musician, yeah didn'tgo to college like you did.
You're a musician, yeah, andthe more I watch these
documentaries, like it allstarts with a song, this great
documentary on on prime aboutthe nashville songwriting
(04:33):
community, um, I realize, Irealize, I guess I was a
songwriter.
I'm a songwriter, but you are,the point I'm getting to is I I
worked part-time when I went tocollege in the city at two
private schools Trinity Schooland Allen-Stevenson School.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
On the Upper East Side.
I know both.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
I know both Totally different cultures between the
Upper East Side and Upper WestSide.
Oh yes, the kids I dealt withon Allen-Stevenson were a little
bit tougher than the laid-backparents I had on the Upper West
Side.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Right.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Yep, I was Upper West , they were artsy, the laid back
parents I had on the Upper WestSide, right.
Yep, I was Upper West, so onthe Upper West Side at Trinity
we had some kind of music showand I wrote a song called
Frankenstein that the kidsactually danced to while I
played it.
So it was about how I lost myhead.
I forgot all these things.
(05:23):
I felt just like Frankenstein.
I had no mind.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
How do we hear this?
I'd like to hear this you knowwhat.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Here's my biggest regret in life, because I've
never recorded it.
I've played it so many timesand I did it back then and I
should have had the guts to sayyou know what, let me see if I
can get this copyrighted.
And I did at one point go topeople I knew at Sony Music and
(05:51):
submitted some songs and I gotturned down and had I had the
tenacity that I have today in mynew business career, I wouldn't
have let one person's opinionyou know kill my spirit, but I
did.
I let one person, one person sayah, there's no hook, where's
the?
Because I actually performed asong in the talent show at my
university and I came in firstplace and it was a song called
(06:13):
son of a beach.
It was about the pollutiongreat name on the beaches.
This is before howard stern hadhis shows, son of a beach and
um, it was kind of a parody anduh, by the third verse everybody
was singing along with me and Icame in first and that was
recorded on video, but of courseI've lost that VHS.
So, but that I submitted tosomebody at Sony publishing and
(06:34):
they're like there's no hook andthat was the end of that.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Oh man.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Yeah, so I want to go back.
So when you study Eastman, sodo you have to play piano?
Do so, I want to go back.
So when you study Eastman, sodo you have to play piano?
Do you get to choose aninstrument, or do you have to
learn to play a number ofinstruments?
How does it work when you go toMA in music education.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Yeah, of course.
So so for Eastman.
So I double majored at EastmanBA in classical clarinet
performance and and also inmusic education.
So it's different depending onwhich school you go to, but I
would say you do have to have aprimary instrument that you go
in studying, and then, in orderto become a music teacher, you
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do need to be, you know,somewhat competent on either
piano or guitar or something youcan play along with you know
that that you know where you'replaying chords along with the
kids.
So yeah, so I did both.
I was, you know, clarinetperformance, but that's really,
it's really tough to playclarinet, you know, in a grown
(07:37):
up in me style class, becauseyou can't speak at the same time
.
So, occasionally, you know,I'll, you know we'll do.
Oh, you know, clarinet'sinstrument of the day, here it
is and the kids love it, but Ireally mostly stick to guitar
and ukulele so that I can singand chat with the kids and their
parents during class.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Yeah, Having a dad who was into jazz.
Were you a Benny Goodman?
Benny.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Goodman, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Oh my gosh yes.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Yes, yeah, and my dad really just you know, he didn't
put the pressure on me, Like,of course I took piano lessons,
and you know, weekly, from agefive.
Um, but it was more about youknow.
I just want you to share mypassion of you know for music.
I just want you to love it andhe succeeded.
(08:23):
I love it, and that's all thatI want to share with everyone
around me too Was Rhapsody inBlue your.
Yes, yeah, that big clarinetsolo at the beginning, oh my
gosh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that'sgreat, for sure, yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
So what do you enjoy Now?
You have a five-year-old ofyour own now, but what do you
enjoy most about going?
And I five-year-old of your ownnow, but what do you enjoy most
about you know going and youknow I've talked to a lot of
people who had to pivot duringCOVID.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
And a lot of them, you know, feel like.
You know I could never go backto what I used to do, because
where I am now is where I wasmeant to be Right.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Do you feel?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
that and then like, where, like.
So you live in Bergen County, Iassume.
So where did this?
Did you feel that there was aneed for this?
Were people coming to you?
Did you?
Because you didn't?
Have a child.
Yet I mean, you just had, were,just you know, it wasn't like
you had a kid in the schoolsystem and you thought, oh, this
is something that it's lackingLike, where was that aha moment
for you?
Speaker 3 (09:20):
That's a good question because, as I think I
said before, the field Iwouldn't say it's saturated, but
there's definitely a lot ofoptions.
You know, especially in BergenCounty, there are so many parent
and me music classes that Ithink you know.
I guess, backtracking a littlebit, when I moved to Bergen
(09:43):
County, you know, during thepandemic I, you know it was so
isolating, I knew nobody.
I had had my first kid and Istarted a mom's group on
WhatsApp.
That was, you know, had likefive or six women in it and it
was like the only way we couldreally hang out with each other,
right with us and our babies.
And it just kind of grew andgrew slowly over time.
(10:07):
Before I knew it it had like 200women in it and people were
asking each other, you know,where can we go for this, where
can we go for this?
And I was like huh, like maybeI should, you know, maybe I
should start my own thing here.
And it was always kind of inthe back of my mind.
But until I was a parent myself, it didn't really, you know,
(10:29):
take hold of me.
Until I was like okay, like Ihad a kid, like I want to take
them to do something, you know.
And sure enough, my kids go tomy classes.
They mostly sit up front withme, you know, and pretend
they're the teacher too.
But yeah, I mean, I guess Ijust saw a need and there's, you
know, plenty of families to goaround for for all of us music
teachers.
And here we are.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
And there's something cute like when you see your,
your son or daughter at an earlyage start to dance around or be
affected by music, and it'samazing what music can do.
It's amazing, it's you knowit's primal and itimo and it's
involuntary.
They just hear a song and theystart dancing to it or want to
sing along to it.
Do you find it helps certainkids get out of their shells,
(11:13):
and maybe even kids with specialneeds?
Speaker 3 (11:17):
A hundred percent.
Going back to what you justsaid, and then I'll answer that
I love when I see during class.
I'll just start playing myguitar.
I look around the room andthere are babies four months old
, five months old, that justkind of start rocking back and
forth.
Nice, nice, most natural,intuitive movement.
(11:41):
You know, and you know, I hearparents say all the time like,
oh I, like I'm not musical, likeI can't carry a tune, like I'm
like, you've got a heartbeat.
You know, everyone's got aheartbeat you can you?
can you know what a steady beatis?
You know?
Um yeah, we're all, we're allborn with it.
And uh yeah, in terms of youappealing to lots of different
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kids, I do.
I actually have done manysensory friendly classes for
kids on the spectrum inconjunction with a wonderful
group called the Work of HeartCounseling that's also here in
Bergen County and we invite inparents of special needs kids
who may otherwise feel likemaybe a little nervous about
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bringing their kid, you know, toto a class.
And I, you know music,especially for kids who are on
the spectrum, is very powerful.
They love it, they arenaturally just like good at it.
It just speaks to them andthere's many ways that I make it
sensory friendly.
But even if I don't like thekids, just you really see them
(12:47):
come out of their shell and showtheir whole personality.
And the parents, they just theylove it because they get to see
their kids really blossomingand enjoying themselves and
being themselves.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
That's great, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
So tell us a little bit about the business itself.
So you, you, you will go toplaces like little gym or my gym
, or apple tree playhouse, and Inoticed you'll do a lot of
outdoor, I guess we'll call themconcerts, right.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Yeah, so as we're, we're into June and it feels
like it's, you know, august onthe surface of the sun yes, it
does so where are we today?
So this coming Wednesday you'replaying an apple tree playhouse
, which is in Westwood, which Ithink yes.
I had one of the owners on thecover of the magazine yep she
(13:38):
was in old Japan.
So tell me a little bit moreabout the different types of
classes and the different typesof I guess we'll call them
services that you have.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Sure, so classes are all throughout the week.
I have weekday classes, I'vegot weekend classes, which my
working parents love, andthey're all throughout Bergen
County.
So I mean I've taught inParamus, fairlawn, ridgewood
Park, ridge, englewood, franklinLakes, like everywhere.
I travel everywhere and you know, sometimes I do collaborations,
(14:09):
like this Wednesday with AppleTree Playhouse, which is nice,
especially when the weather'sthis hot, because they get you
know, the kids get a music classand then they get to explore
the gym, so it's kind of like ittakes up the whole morning, you
know before the parents know it, it's time for nap time and you
know, before the parents knowit, it's time for nap time and
you know some classes are gearedtowards, you know, the little
guys and then some are mixed age, but all of the classes are
(14:30):
really just highly interactive,educational and at the end of
the day I like to say they'rejust plain old fun.
My favorite thing is when youknow the grownups tell me like I
had such a great time, or thegrandparents especially I love
when the grandparents come,they're like that was such a
throwback.
I loved it.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
That's great.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Because I do a lot of classic songs too.
You know classic nursery rhymesthat everybody knows, so that
everyone can participate.
And yeah, the classes allfollow the same like overall
structure.
So we play a lot of differentinstruments, mostly handheld
percussion, so think likeshakers, tambourines, castanets,
(15:12):
uh, euros, things like that.
We move, we groove, we dance.
Movement is, of course, a hugepart of music education.
You know feeling, feeling themusic through your body, um, and
then we play with a prop, sothink like a toy part of music
education.
You know feeling, feeling themusic through your body.
And then we play with a prop,so think like a toy.
So like beach balls this week,or stuffies or scarves or
(15:32):
ribbons or the parachute, whicheverybody just loves.
The kids go nuts over it.
I try not to do it every class,but it's like sometimes they
just, you know, they startsaying parachute, Miss Carly.
And we always do bubbles anddance parties, which is so much
fun and yeah, we just, we justhave a great time just moving
(15:55):
and grooving our hearts out.
I also do a lot of themeclasses throughout the year for
major holidays.
So I'm doing July 4th classesthis week, a Stars and Stripes
sing-along, and people tend toget really dressed up, myself
included, and go all outcelebrating whatever holiday it
may be.
And then I also do birthdayparties.
(16:18):
A lot of the parents in myclasses will hire me to perform
at their kids' parties becausethe kid knows me and which I
love to do, because who doesn'tlove a party?
So I pop into parties onweekends, or sometimes I'll do a
daycare party and go in duringthe week if the parents want
something more low-key,something during the week.
(16:38):
And then the last part of mybusiness is that I think I
mentioned this before is that Ioffer music classes for kids on
the go.
For parents who can't make itto music class, you know, maybe
they have a really busy scheduleor they're full time working or
they have multiple kids withschedules that are crazy to
juggle.
So I have this podcast for kidsages 18 months to five that's
(17:03):
meant to be played in the carand aptly called Miss Carly's
Car Rides, and I started it afew months back and it's just
been a wild success, like waymore than I thought it would be,
I think because parents myselfincluded, I have kids under five
really struggle with how toentertain their kids in the car.
(17:24):
You know they buy like toy aftertoy that doesn't get used, and
they're dealing with traffichere in Bergen.
County and you know are wethere yet and they tend to like
not take long trips because ofhow chaotic the car can be with
kids and I.
Essentially it was weird, itjust like one day just came to
me, like I just I was like I'mgoing to solve this problem for
parents with this podcast, andwhat's interesting is that it's
(17:49):
a combination of music,education and stories and
conversation and there's nothingelse out there that I found in
the podcast world for kids thisage which I was like floored by,
because I was like why doesn'tthis exist?
Like there's podcasts of storiesfor kids, there's music for
kids, but there isn't anythingthat incorporates both together
(18:10):
the stories and the music or anymusic education podcast out
there.
So parents have been just likeloving knowing that they can
listen on the go and that theirkid is entertained and educated
and and it's been it's beengreat.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
So Wow, that's really cool so it's really fun.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Miss Carly's Car Rides you can find on Spotify or
any other podcast platform.
Yeah, Spotify and Apple rightnow, and then you know we'll see
where it takes me, but I'vereally been enjoying it.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
That's great.
So you record it, you'replaying and you're also giving
stories behind the songs.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then diving also into youknow straight up music ed.
Like this week I'm doing thisAmericana Mama episode and we're
listening to a bunch of youknow patriotic fanfare music and
we're learning all about thetrumpet and you know various
brass instruments all by ear.
So that's another thing, isit's you know a screen free
option and it's it's reallyteaching kids active listening
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and yeah, I mean my kids like it.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
So that says something, because they're
probably pretty sick of my voice.
So my son, my son's 11.
He plays the trumpet, but hetold me, yeah, but he told me
he's not going to do it nextyear.
All of his friends dropped outand he, you know, he was like
the only.
I'm like come on, man, and Itry to turn them onto Miles
Davis and stuff like that.
And I have guitars sittingaround my house and a keyboard
(19:34):
and I don't play.
But you know, I can fiddlearound with it, and YouTube is
amazing to teach yourself stuff.
He hasn't gravitated to it but Iwas like trumpet.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
that's great man, keep it up and his teacher, you
know he got an A plus and he'slike oh, everybody gets an A.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
I'm like all him.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Yeah, I mean he has, he's got a foundation.
So truly I mean yeah, even ifyou pick up another instrument.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
When you're my age, you could be playing in jazz
bands and just write the fun ofit.
I mean, look at me, I pick upthe guitar.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
I play like every day , I just enjoy it Right, yeah, I
mean, like that's, that's thegoal, right, like that's it,
like you just want to be able to, you know, just have fun with
it.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Yeah, yeah.
So to get a little nerdy here,I see in your certification that
Annie Lennox has a class thatyou're certified.
No, just kidding.
It says Delcroze EurythmicsCertified.
Whatever that is.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Oh, yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
And then Orf Schulwerk, schulwerk.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Yes, or, and then?
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Orff Schulwerk?
Yes, orff Schulwerk.
So what are thosecertifications?
Speaker 3 (20:36):
I mean, I could get all technical and talk your ear
off all day, but I'll keep itshort and sweet, so I guess I'll
start with Orff Schulwerk.
So I have, I'm level threecertified there.
There's three levels as far asI know right now.
I think that's all they offerand it's really just music
through play.
It's very play-based it's verysound before sight-based meaning
(20:59):
.
We focus in the classroom, whenwe're using the Orff-Schulwerk
approach, on, instead of readingmusic, on feeling it and
singing it and producing itourselves and then going ahead
and reading very much.
You know, the same way that welearn a language, right?
We?
aren't asking babies to you know, read which is interesting
because there's there's so much,I think, confusion about that,
(21:23):
or really not confusion, butjust like lack of awareness in
the music world about what's inthe music education world, about
what's important.
You know, parents are like Ijust want my kid to be able to
read music, and that isimportant, but to be able to
experience the music is firstand foremost, comes first and
foremost, um.
So that's what that approach isall about.
And then Delcro's Eurythmics isreally just all about moving,
(21:47):
feeling music within your body.
So learning how to feeldifferent forms of music, like a
rondo in your body, learninghow to um express you know,
different um, different temposof music, you could say,
different um feelings.
Yeah, so it's all about kind ofembodying the music and nothing
(22:07):
to do with annie lennox anddave stewart.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
No, nothing zero.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
so yeah, both of those those courses really kind
of helped me just expand my,expand my mind about how to, how
to teach.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Yeah, so I want to go back one more time to your
upcoming classes now, or, or Iguess we call it classes.
But what?
Where is what do you do in ParkRidge, cause I see Park Ridge
as a location.
Do you have a studio?
Do you have a like a, alocation people come to.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Yeah, I'm glad you asked about that one.
That's actually my most popularlocation.
Well, park Ridge and Fairlawn,I would say, are dueling.
So, Park Ridge.
I rent out a wonderful spacethere it's First Congregational
Church on Pasquack Road, bigspace.
It's also used by a lot ofother businesses that cater to
young children's soccer shotsand Fit for Mom, and we all use
(23:04):
that space together and I teachthere indoors on Thursdays at 10
o'clock and at 1115 AM EveryThursday throughout the school
year.
In the summer I do not use thatlocation, so I'm only there
until, I think, july 3rd, andthen my Thursday classes are
moving back to Fairlawn, whichis where I live.
(23:24):
My classes in Fairlawn startedactually in my basement, but we
live in a small Cape and, youknow, before I knew it, I was
getting so much demand and Ikept having to say I'm so sorry.
you know class is full, class isfull and so I was like you know
what time to rent a spot here.
So I rent a.
(23:46):
I've got a location in Fairlawnon Saddle River Road that I
rent, and then I have an ElksLodge in Paramus, just four
minutes away, that I rent.
But if we can be outside, whichis just you know when it's not
like this outside, although Idid teach during the heat wave
last year, free class on MakeMusic Day, when it was 101
degrees in June.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
And.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
I don't know how I got through that class, but I
did.
But when we're outside we'reusually at Crest Hill Park in
Fairlawn, which is a reallyquiet, shady, wonderful park
with a playground and theoutside classes are just.
They're really chill, they'rereally.
It's a vibe, it's a vibe, butactually it's harder for me to
(24:27):
teach outside.
There's a lot of factors thesound carries, the children
carry.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
They're off everywhere, but I still enjoy it
.
I do.
That's great.
So how would people um get incontact with you?
Which what's the best way toreach you?
Speaker 3 (24:43):
The best way is by joining my email list, um, at my
website, saddle river song.
com.
The website has a list of allmy upcoming classes by month, um
, and everything is only postedone month in advance because
I've got little kids and it'shard to plan.
But if they click subscribe atthe bottom, they'll get a list
of all the classes emailed tothem once a week and they also
(25:03):
get some exclusive discountsthat are offered to my
subscribers only and bonuscontent for my podcast episodes
and some more perks podcastepisodes and some more perks.
And the other great way to keepup to date is through Instagram
by following Saddle River Songand Miss Carly's Car Rise for
the new podcast episodes, andthen you can also listen, you
(25:25):
know, on Apple or Spotify if youwant to check it out there, and
that's pretty much it, that'syou know that's great.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
I hope to see people in class, yeah, yeah, no, this
is very cool and you know, Ithink, as I mentioned, I play
guitar so I'm always keen totalk to people like you and I
think it's great bringing youknow that experience to kids and
exposing them to it, and younever know where they go from
there, right it's so true.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Yeah, thank you so much.
Thank you for having me on theshow.
This was awesome yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Thank you for being a guest, and bear with me,
chuck's just he's going to takeus out and you and I'll be right
back.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Okay, all right.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Thank you for listening to the Good Neighbor
Podcast.
To nominate your favorite localbusinesses to be featured on
the show, go to gnpbergen.
com.
That's gnpbergen.
com, or call 201-298-8325.
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