November 12, 2024 • 36 mins
Michelle Barone's journey from the corporate world to the realm of emotional intelligence coaching is a testament to resilience and transformation. On this episode of the Good Neighbor Podcast, Michelle shares her poignant personal experiences, including her daughter's battle with cancer, and how these shaped her unique approach to coaching. Discover the critical importance of regulating one's own emotions and the strategies for navigating life transitions such as becoming an empty nester or facing career shifts. Michelle's story is a powerful reminder of the strength found in adversity and the potential for growth through life's most challenging moments.
We also explore how mindset can drastically alter one's life path, drawing inspiration from figures like Joe Dispenza. The conversation shifts toward embracing positive thinking, recognizing serendipities, and redefining experiences as growth opportunities. Join us as we discuss the role of community support and holistic practices in achieving emotional liberation. Aspiring coaches will find encouragement in accepting their own growth journeys while guiding others. This episode promises to inspire you with fresh perspectives on emotional resilience and the transformative power of personal development. Don't miss out on the valuable insights shared by Michelle Barone and the collective wisdom on achieving emotional well-being.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the Good Neighbor Podcast, the place
where local businesses andneighbors come together.
Here's your host, Jeremy Wolf.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Hello, hello everyone , and welcome back to the Good
Neighbor Podcast.
I am, of course, your host,jeremy Wolf, and today I'm
joined by Michelle Barone, andMichelle joins us from Moksha
Grace Consulting, moksha GraceCoaching, and Michelle is
actually the mother of aprevious guest that we had on
(00:33):
recently, krista Barone, and I'msuper excited to get into this
because what you do, michelle,it really resonates deeply with
me in where I'm at currentlywith my life.
I always say, on the north sideof 40, coming into a lot of
life realizations and thingslike that.
So get into this and learnabout what you do, because I
think it's incredibly valuablefor people.
(00:53):
So, with that said, first ofall, thank you for joining us.
Welcome to the show.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Thank you, thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Of course, and thanks as always to our listeners for
tuning in.
Start off, tell us a little bitabout Moksha Grace Coaching,
Tell us about what you do, andthen we'll get into the kind of
the backstory behind it.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Yeah, absolutely.
Moksha Grace Coaching issomething I put together after a
few tumultuous years and, youknow, had to have my tower
moment and kind of you knowbreak down and then you rebuild.
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That's what happens and youpick up the stones that people
throw at you and you build yourown castle.
And so that's what I chose todo.
And I created Moksha GraceCoaching because when I was in
corporate, everybody stressedemotional intelligence.
You know you always went to theclasses, the courses.
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You know you got to learnemotional intelligence.
You have to be aware about whatother people are feeling and
thinking and doing.
But they never talked about howwe could regulate our own
emotions and be emotionallyintelligent about ourself.
And so I saw this gap and Iwanted to fill it and help
people control their ownemotions, because that is the
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only thing we are in controlover.
That's it.
We're not in control ofanything else.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I always tell I sorry to cut you off there.
I always tell my children thatsame thing is that we truly only
have control over internalwhat's going on right.
All the external factors andexternalities, these things that
happen, we just react to themand often we tend to go down
rabbit holes and we ruminateover external factors that we
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have absolutely no control overand it makes us suffer
needlessly.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Absolutely.
And then we have theseknee-jerk reactions that can
ruin relationships, ruin jobs,ruin your relationship with
yourself.
You have all of these thingsthat can come up for you because
you're allowing your emotionsto control you, versus you
having a relationship andaccepting everything that you're
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feeling and then moving on fromthere.
So I love what I get to do.
I love being able to bringpeople into that strength that
they have inside and get to knowthat and so that they can live
a more fulfilling and life fullof harmony.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
I love it Now.
Are you working exclusivelywith women, or do you work with
women and men?
What's your ideal demographic?
Speaker 3 (03:40):
My ideal demographic is anywhere from 30 to 80, going
through life transitions.
Your kids are going away toschool and going away to college
, and now you're going to be anempty nester.
You're changing a job, losingyour identity because something
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happened to your job, Been there, done that, got the souvenir,
and so all of these things ofrebuilding and being an advocate
for other people is what I'vebrought in and how I coach, and
so the things that I've beenthrough are what I help other
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people go through.
So my daughter's been through ahealth care journey.
She beat the heck out of cancer.
I have been that mom that neverthought that childhood cancer
ever existed.
I never thought that I wouldhave to be sitting in a hospital
room praying that my daughterwould survive, praying that my
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daughter would survive, and thendealing with the after effects
of healthcare and long-termeffects that no one ever told us
about because we were justhappy she survived.
And so there's that aspectbeing a caregiver for our
parents mine and my husband'sand having to deal with that
right and seeing our parentspassing and transitioning.
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That was really hard.
And so there's a lot of us thatare now in that group that we
have to take care of our parents.
Maybe they didn't plan, maybethey did.
We had a little bit of both,and so how do we get through
that and still hold our identityand still hold our emotional
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center?
Speaker 2 (05:36):
I wanted to dig into that a little bit deeper because
oftentimes what I've foundthroughout my journey is that
the more challenging and tryingexperiences where at the time
going through it it seems likethe world is ending often help
shape our worldview and we helpdraw a lot of positive
inspiration on that.
So your daughter's cancer orbattle with cancer I'm
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interested to learn how thatexperience and dealing with that
personally for your daughter,helped to shape your approach to
coaching today.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Wow, um, krista and I talk about this all the time
because you know there's a lotof people that would be like, oh
, cancer, cancer sucks.
And you know, and I know I wishI never went through that and
you ask Krista, you ask ourwhole family we would not be who
we are today if we had not gonethrough that.
And you know I'm a big believerin law of attraction and
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universal laws.
You know, no, needed a pause.
That life was feeling out ofcontrol.
And at that time I was a stayat home mom.
She was three, my son was inkindergarten.
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I was, you know, having thattransition where your kids are
now getting older and I'm likewho am I?
What am I supposed to do?
And all of a sudden, everythingcame to a stop, everything shut
down.
And I say this all the time, itwas like someone put a burlap
sack over my head.
All the lights went out.
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I couldn't breathe, couldn'twalk, didn't know what to do.
I had no idea.
And my husband was the one thatstood up and said you know,
what we never give up that'swhat this family is about is we
never give up.
I still wear my bracelet.
We had these printed back inthe day and I still wear my
bracelet and he told everybodyhe had tons of family at the
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hospital and he was like nocrying, go home, get it out.
When you're here, you'repositive and you're upbeat.
We are going to this is our newnormal and we are going to
fight this, or we are going tohelp Krista fight this, because
she ultimately had to be the onedoing the work, even at three.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
And she's going to draw off the energy and the
emotions.
And then when, what you'regiving off, if you're sitting
there in constant concern andworry and crying and all that
that that is going to bleed overto her?
Oh, I truly believe that.
Yeah, I'm sorry to cut you off.
Finish up.
And then I want to sharesomething.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
I just I literally just got goosebumps because
that's what would happen.
And so when I would lose itbecause I'm not perfect, of
course I'm going to going tolose it.
I'm scared to death.
I'm away from my husband.
We ended up having to go to StPete for stem cell rescues for a
month at a time.
I was away from my five-year-oldand how does a mom leave her
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son and you're with yourdaughter and you're feeling
pulled in two differentdirections.
It was so challenging and I justkept remembering like we will
get through this, like and andthere and I've spoken on other
podcasts about this, just realquick.
There was a moment where I knowand it was in St Pete that some
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there there was a man that cameto my room.
He was dressed as a preacher,some kind of religious being
preacher with a collar, walkedinto the room because I wouldn't
have let him in otherwise andsaid I hear you need to speak to
me, where I knew I could feelthis heaviness in the room and
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it was like death at the doorand I was like no, you are not
taking her.
We have too much to do.
We will be the lighthouse, wewill shine hope for others, but
you will not take her and Idon't know what the heck
happened.
But then this guy shows up.
I write a thank you letterafterwards because he totally
made me feel so much better,allowed me to vent, and I went
(09:48):
to take it down to thechaplain's office.
And what do you think?
No one knew who he was.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
No one knew who he was.
There was no log of anyonebeing there.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Fascinating.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Fascinating, so just had to get that out because that
is faith, and I lost it.
After that I was really angryand going through the journey
that I've been on in the lastsix years, I realized I stopped
talking, I stopped having thatcommunication in my faith, and
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so I had to come back to faithon my terms in my way.
So it's it's been, it's been ajourney, and coaching has
massively changed my life.
I've had a lot.
Good coaches, have good coachesand I have gone, put myself
through it, and I never asked myclients to do anything that I
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have not done myself.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Very important.
It's good stuff.
It's like the mindset is justso powerful, whether it's faith
driven or whether it's just yourown mindset driving you.
It's like makes me think of JoeDispenza.
I'm sure you know Joe Dispenzaand how, what you?
It's funny how, when you startthinking positively and you
start thinking confidently andyou start putting that out into
your external universe, you, youstart to notice.
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I think he calls them littlelike serendipities, little
coincidences, little breadcrumbsfrom the divine.
He calls them where, like,things just magically start
showing up and it's not likethese things weren't there
before.
It's just like you're shining alight on the positive and
you're choosing not to look atthe negative.
So, like when things are goingwrong, I have Murphy's law right
.
You're just like one after theother just keeps hitting you and
it's because you're focusing onthe negative.
(11:36):
There's plenty of positive outthere.
It's all about where you trainyour attention.
Yeah, and it goes back to wecontrol our emotions.
We control so if you gettriggered by something that
comes up, one of the thingsthat's helped me a lot as of
late, is that I actually justtake a step back because you
feel it right.
My kids do something to triggerme, my wife, I get an argument.
I feel it.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
My jellies.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
It comes up, it bubbles up, and I take a step
back and I take a deep breathand I just have a dialogue with
myself and I say oh that'sinteresting, oh, I love it.
Why are you coming up now, like,what are you trying to?
And what happens is, with thatconversation you realize how
ridiculous it is and thenegative emotion just disappears
away and I'm like, oh, that's,that's, and like I'm able to,
like, just diffuse these highintensity situations in a matter
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of seconds mostly.
Sometimes it takes a littlelonger, like the deeper the
trauma from from my past, thelonger it takes to diffuse.
If it's something that goesback to childhood that takes me
some time, I'd have to put myshoes on and go running or do
something serious.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
But a lot of the stuff.
Now it's like I brush it offand I'm like, oh, I'm good, very
, very terrible, jeremy, you're,you're, you're speaking my
language.
You're speaking my language,it's perfect.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
I told you, this stuff resonates with me.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Yeah, it's.
I mean, there are people outthere that will ruminate over
something and I was talking to aclient a couple of weeks ago
and she was like, well, I'vegotten myself now down to 36
hours.
And I was like, what do youmean?
And she's like, well, you know,when we first started, I would,
you know, something wouldtrigger me and it would be like,
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you know, two weeks.
I would be off and I would justbe in anger and just upset and
I've gotten myself down to 36and I'm like, yeah, we still
have some work to do.
I'm like 36 hours is still toolong to be ruminating.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
That's 35 hours and 59 minutes of too much
unintentional suffering, orwhat's the word I'm looking for?
Uncontrolled suffering.
I always say that now it's thatI want to choose what I suffer
over, meaning I don't want to betriggered and suffer
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uncontrollably or involuntarily,if you will Like.
If I'm going to suffer, I wantit to be like if I need to learn
a new skill.
You can either make that ahorrible experience where you're
overwhelmed and you're feelingflustered, or you could lead
into it with a curiosity andjust frame the experience
differently and you're stillgoing through mental anguish.
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That's what growth is right.
You have to go through the painto get there, but if you frame
that pain as growth and asprogress as opposed to just
typical suffering, it's superpowerful.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Yeah, and it's not.
You know, I don't even like tosay suffering, because we're
growing, and if we don't fail,if we don't fall down, we can't
get back up.
If we don't fail, we don't knowwhat we actually want.
You know, if we don't losesomething, we can't be grateful
for what we have, and so it'sjust what side of the stick do
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you want to be on?
And that's what you get tocontrol, that's what you get to
choose and that's what's sopowerful.
And so when people come into me,especially the clients that are
overwhelmed and they're feelingout of control and they're
spiraling and they're just, theydon't know how to get out of it
, or they're in this pattern.
(14:51):
You know that just keepsreplaying.
I'm like we got to break thepattern, and the only way to do
that is to shift yourperspective.
How do you want to feel?
And so we go through all ofthat, and you know, and I have,
I have different offerings thatfit everybody at all levels, and
that's so important to me,because I want to be able to
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help as many people as I cancome to this realization,
because it's so important.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Yeah, it could be incredibly difficult for
somebody to shift thatperspective that you mentioned,
and I think a lot of it goesback.
I mean, there's no shortcuts.
It just requires hard work, andI learned that every day, and
there's plenty of work to bedone.
It's a lifelong process.
What would you say?
What's some advice you can giveto somebody out there that is
(15:39):
feeling stuck Because it canfeel like there's no way out?
From my perspective, one of thethings I've learned is just
it's all about creating very,very small changes, micro habits
, and doing things one step at atime, and in doing that
consistently over time, youstart to see huge results.
Speak to that a little bit.
(15:59):
What can you offer somebody outthere that might be listening,
that is struggling right now?
What can you say to get themstarting to think about getting
out of that place?
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Yeah, first of all, there's going to be people
around you that are going towant to try and help you and do
it for you.
Don't do that because you haveto do this yourself.
You can reach out for supportand have people sit with you
right, like the whole Eeyore andPiglet.
You know they just sit, they be, they're in it.
But if you feel those warninglights and I like to call those
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emotions that like the warninglights on our car and we've been
ignoring them for so long andthen our engine blows up and
we're like how did that happen?
And it's like, well, duh, youknow.
So it's like, well, if yourengine light is on and you have
been ignoring it for years, it'sgoing to bubble up.
So are you going to address itnow?
And and when is the right time?
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And so I would say, get curious.
But you have to.
You have to take your emotionsand you have to.
What I, you know, and and I I'ma big believer in Abraham Hicks
you got to climb the emotionalguidance scale.
However, you can't go fromdepression to fricking bliss.
You have to go slow, and so ifyou can just get up one or two
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notches, and I have a wholeemotional scale that I follow
and I help my clients follow,and it's like if we can just get
you from like depression andunworthiness up to boredom or
complacency, because then right,it's a step in the right
direction.
No-transcript see a squirrelrun up a tree, who knows?
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But there's going to be somelittle nudge from the universe
that's going to help you shiftand the same thing will happen
as you're trying to move up thatscale.
Doing it alone can bechallenging.
I do podcasts, I do two a weekJump on the shows.
I'm always talking about thisstuff because if I can help
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again, if I can help more people, we're all going to be better
for it, all of us.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Absolutely.
Running is a big one for me.
It's interesting.
I get some of the greatestideas that I have when I go.
So I used to listen to podcastsor music when I ran.
Now I don't listen to anything.
I find that what happens isthings just come to me.
I get ideas for work, to writesongs, poetry.
I'm very musically inclined.
All this stuff just comes to meand there's never been a time
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where I've been feeling unwelland I strapped my shoes on and
went for a few mile run and Ididn't come back and say, man, I
feel amazing.
Sometimes I don't want to go doit because my body you know I'm
getting older so it's taxing onthe body, which is a little bit
upsetting to me that I got intoit so late.
I'm grateful that I found it.
Don't get me wrong, but I gofor a relatively long run
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Saturday mornings.
We do like six miles, it's likea 10 K, and I often find that
my body is feeling rough for afew days afterwards and it's
tough to get back out there.
But it's such a powerfulexperience and exercise in
general, whether it's running,whatever it is, but something
about that continuous exercisewhen it comes to running.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
I'm not sure if you ever run.
I'm not a runner.
I I'm a walker.
I'll walk.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
And I do.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
I do walk in Cooper city, um, I haven't, uh, in a
few months and my neighbors arelike, come on, let's get back
out there.
So I do need to get back outthere, um, but I do have a path
that we follow and we we walkaround, um, where do you live in
Cooper and Cooper city?
Well, I'm actually in Davie, so, but across across on a hundred
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, so I'm off of 106.
So on one side of the street isDavie, down two streets, and
then everything else is Coopercity.
So I'm on the two streets thatare private and Davie, um, and
then everything else is Coopercity around us.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Yeah, I often go to that neighbor.
I live in Cooper city, rightdown the road from where you're
at.
There's a place in right inthat area you're talking about
that you live.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
it's called or botanica organica oh yeah,
they're right around the corner,like literally.
I can hear the chickens, and Ihave chickens too, so our
roosters communicate, yeah sothey have.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
They do a full moon gathering every month there, the
group soul fire, alchemy wherewe do breath work, we do
meditation.
We do ice bath, all this typeof stuff.
We're talking all this holisticspace.
I'm really, really into thiskind of stuff.
You should definitely checkthat out.
You've been to the Full MoonGathering?
Speaker 3 (20:49):
I haven't been to the Full Moon Gathering.
I actually do my own.
I have my own Shaman Drum andwe have a very special property
and that might be for adifferent show or maybe you'll
have to come on my podcast andwe'll talk about it, but we have
a very special property here.
There's some amazing energyhere and I actually had always
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wanted to do that and I had beenlooking for a full moon
something and then I was likewait a minute.
And I had been looking for afull moon something and then I
was like wait a minute, where isthis place?
And I was like it's onliterally right behind me.
And so I've been over there.
I did some juicing with oh mygosh, I can't remember his name
at the moment, but he makes someamazing juices, fruits and
(21:30):
Cahoot yeah, but the guy's nameand I can't think of his name
right now.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
You mean the guy that owns the property, not Ricky,
yeah.
No, yeah, I think I know whoyou're talking about, but I
can't remember his name either.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Yeah, but they're wonderful and you know it's just
.
But this property is full oflight, is full of magic and is
full of history of this area.
I don't know if Kristamentioned we were on the dead
files, but there's a lot, of alot of things that we've learned
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about this area, so it was.
That was pretty cool too.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Yeah, a buddy, a good friend of mine, my best friend,
brian Schwartz.
He owns a business called he'sin Orlando.
It's called manhoodtransformation and we do we.
It's basically a brotherhood wework with.
It's very similar to whatyou're doing coaching but we do
a lot of holistic.
We delve into the plantmedicine space.
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Often we do retreats.
We're planning one coming upsoon in Orlando.
We've been up to the mountainsbefore.
It's something about gettingtogether.
It's usually about eightbrothers, eight men getting
together for two or three days,having an intense psychedelic
experience thrown into the mixwith also other things, other
bonding experiences.
It's such a profound experience.
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It's been some of the bestexperiences of my life.
It's a type of thing where I'llgo there and meet somebody for
the first time and sure I mightnot see them again for a year or
two, until another retreat.
But when I see them it's like Isaw a long lost brother.
There's a special connectionand bond that forms.
Oh yeah, really powerful workthat we're-.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
We're all connected.
We are all connected on alllevels, absolutely.
Yeah, amazing no-transcriptfreedom from your emotions by
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radical he didn't say this, butI've added it radical
self-acceptance and radicalself-responsibility.
And so when I heard Moksha andI heard the, um, the, the
definition of it, and of coursethere's much deeper.
You know there's soulliberation, um, that's the
deeper definition.
Uh, but you gotta haveemotional liberation before you
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can get to your soul.
You know there's, there'slevels, it's an onion, and so I
love that.
I love Moksha, and I held ontothat for quite a while and I had
a really cool meditation wherea dragonfly came to me and then
it turned into a phoenix and Iwas like, oh, you're Moksha,
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that's cool, and so my logo is adragonfly.
And then, as I was gettingcoached, I have this amazing
coach and she was taking methrough some, some work and
grace.
You do it with grace, it'semotional liberation with grace,
and it just made sense to meand I fell in love with it.
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And I fell in love with it.
And then Odonata Community,which is a community I have
where I do monthly or weeklycoaching.
It's a monthly subscription,it's $111 for the month, and
every week we meet and I coachfor a full hour on whoever
subscribes, whoever comes andshows up that night.
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And what Odonata is is thespecies name of the dragonfly.
And dragonflies start as waterbugs underwater and one day they
climb up.
They just get the inclination.
They climb up on something apiece of wood, a stick,
something and they dry out, theypull their energy.
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So you're talking about alchemy.
I'm an alchemy student.
They pull their energy up andthey unfurl these wings that
they never knew existed, andthen all of a sudden they can
fly and I was like that'sperfect, that's perfect, and so
that's why I have Odonatacommunity.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
I love the intention behind everything.
So important to approacheverything with intention and
clearly, this journey of yoursis so well thought out and you
can see it just speaking to you,right?
You, you exude this positiveaura.
So before you wrap up, I wantedto ask you some advice for
somebody like myself who is justnow starting.
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I mean, really, just the pastfew years has been when I've
started working on all thisstuff and I have a long way to
go, but I feel called to helpothers with this process.
So I guess you can call me anaspiring coach, if you will.
I got a long way to go, but it'sa learning process.
What guidance could you offerto folks like me out there that
want to make a difference, thatwant to help other people that
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are still going through?
Well, we all are still goingthrough their own process, but I
guess I kind of feel like,because I just started this and
I haven't and I've beenstruggling with a lot of this
stuff I feel like I'm not in aposition to help others yet.
But I don't think that's true.
I think that I am in theprocess.
We're all in the process ofgetting better, like, speak to
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me on that because, from where Isit, this is something that
I've been thinking a lot about.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
You got to start somewhere right, and so the
decision to start, the decisionof wanting the other side of the
stick, is the first step, right, knowing what you want, knowing
what you don't want, knowingwhat you want and then figuring
out what is your process,because everyone's going to have
a different process.
You like to run.
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I, last night, was a little uh,had some pent up energy, a
little nervousness.
I do karaoke, like right herein my little she shed, I have my
karaoke machine and I grabbedmy microphone and I was God help
the neighbors.
That's what I do and what's sointeresting.
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And someone can start withsomething this simple, start
with the music that's resonatingwith you at that moment.
Right, it might be like, like,for me it's like angry rock,
like scream, like just go fullin.
You know Metallica and justhard rock, and then all of a
sudden, yeah, right, yeah,falling in reverse.
(28:35):
Their new album.
Oh, but wait a second, I canlisten to like fly leaf or I
don't know, lighter music, ifyou will.
And so, all of a sudden, I'm nowmoving myself up the emotional
(28:57):
guidance scale through music,and so you can choose how you do
your process, but it's findingwhat works for you it might be
art, right?
I remember when Krista was oractually my mom was in the
hospital and I was coloringbecause I love just coloring,
right?
I'm a kid at heart and nevergoing to grow up, and I would
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notice that when I was reallystressed out, the colors would
be like I was really pushinghard on those crayons.
It's like you know dark colorsand and then all of a sudden you
would see that I'd start to golighter.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
You're getting out of your system.
You're getting all the angerout through the art.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
And that is finding your process.
And so once you find yourprocess now, you can turn it
into parts of it, into a routineso that you're getting ahead of
it.
So, for instance, I know thatto start my day, I have to
premeditate, and that means thatas soon as I wake up, I brush
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my teeth, I get my cup of coffeeand then I sit down and I do my
meditation.
I'm premeditating my day.
I'm getting myself up to thislevel.
So no matter what happens to,because stuff is going to happen
and you get knocked down, butif I start down here, I'm going
to end up in the trenches.
If I start up up here, I'mgoing to be midway.
(30:22):
So I know my process and thedays that I don't meditate are
challenging, are much morechallenging.
And so know what works for you,what feels right, start getting
curious about that, even ifyou're tracking it, you're
journaling it, you're writing itdown when are you feeling good,
(30:44):
when are you not feeling good,what is happening around you,
and then start observingyourself Taking notice of it.
Yes, Without judgment, withoutshame, without you know any like
.
Just be the observer, that's it.
That's it.
That is the first step.
And don't ever think you'redone.
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That is always everyone's thingis.
They come back and they're likebut I already did this, I
already went through this trauma.
Why do I have to do it again?
And I'm like?
Because you're now at a deeperlevel and now you're seeing and
feeling things that you didn'tfeel before, and so now we got
to go deeper, but we're neverdone.
We're never done.
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It's a journey.
We are here for a journey.
We're not here to just be hereand then be gone.
We're here for the experience.
How we choose to experiencelife is up to us.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
I often have to remind myself to give myself
credit where it's due, becauseon any given day, it's easy to
fall back to old habits and oldprograms and then tell yourself
the story that you're not makingany progress and this is not
working.
And why is this not working?
For?
And the more you start talkingto yourself like that, you get
(32:00):
more of the same.
So I have to take a step backfrom that when I start telling
myself these old programs andstories and I just say wait a
minute, you are way better offthan you were before and you're
making progress.
Yeah, and you're doing goodthings.
Absolutely Always, always giveyourself credit for the work you
do, and just one piece ofadvice I've given to people out
there that are struggling isjust start with one thing, right
(32:21):
, don't try too much.
Whether it's again waking up inthe morning maybe the first
thing you do when you go to gofor a walk, right.
Or maybe it's sit down and dofive minutes of meditation, or
maybe it's just pick up yourjournal before you go to sleep
and just get your thoughts onpaper, and then the next morning
wake up and write, write alittle bit more, just small
little pieces, and do that for aweek or two yeah, write three
things down that you're gratefulfor, right?
Speaker 3 (32:42):
So I, I, so I, so I have a Facebook group and you
can go to mokshagracecom slashgroup.
And what I did is every morningI'm start eight o'clock, I'm
putting a prompt every morningand it's a prompt of what are
you grateful for, becausesometimes you sit down and
you're like what am I gratefulfor?
Okay, I'm going to write thesame three things.
(33:03):
So I'm doing a prompt becauseyou have to feel it.
If you're not feeling thegratefulness in your heart, then
you're just doing it as a chore.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
You're just going through the motions, yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
And that's not going to work, so I'm trying to make
it fun.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
No, and one of the things that I like doing when I
journal is once you startwriting down your wins for the
day.
That's something where, whenyou first start doing it, it's
like grasping at straws.
You can't find the wins andyou're like, oh my God, why
can't I find things that I'vedone well today?
But then, after several days ora week of doing it, what
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happens is, throughout the dayyou start to subconsciously
notice positive things becauseyou know in your mind that
you're going to have to sitthere and write those things
down.
And then all of a sudden, it'slike the floodgates open and
you're like, oh my God, I'mrunning out of paper here.
I've had so many good thingshappen today.
It's all about where you trainyour attention and what you
choose to focus on.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
What you focus on, grows, yeah, all right.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Well, let's end there .
That was great.
We definitely need to continuethis conversation.
I love what you're doing in thecommunity.
I'm definitely going to checkout your stuff on Facebook.
I'll join the group and we'redefinitely going to connect
again after this For ourlisteners out there.
I know you mentioned theFacebook group.
You mentioned Odonata.
I hope I got the pronunciationright.
Let everybody know what's thebest way to reach you If
somebody's struggling and theywant to speak to you maybe your
(34:33):
phone number, your website?
Speaker 3 (34:33):
how can we connect with you guys?
Everything is at mokshagracecom.
It's very easy.
Just go to moksha gracecom.
You'll find all the differentthings on there.
Um, the, I can send out links,but even on social media it's
all under moksha grace.
I have a LinkedIn page, I havea YouTube, I have a YouTube, I
have Facebook.
So I'm like everywhere underMoksha Grace.
But go to mokshagracecom.
You can join my email list.
I send out a newsletter everySunday that has lots of helpful
(34:56):
tips in it, free stuff on how toyou know free ways to do things
.
You know different exercises totry to do things, different
exercises to try.
So I'm really trying to providevalue for everyone, because not
everyone can afford coaching,but yet everyone needs some
(35:16):
accountability and someone tohold your hand and walk the
journey with you not for you,but with you and just keep you
on the path.
That's it.
Just focus on moving forward.
That's all we're doing is we'rejust taking baby steps forward,
and that's so important andthat's what coaching is.
Coaching is in therapy You'renot going backwards, you're just
(35:39):
moving forward.
You're starting where you aremoving forward.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Excellent, I expect to be on your newsletter soon,
so sign me up for that or getthat to me somehow, absolutely
For our listeners.
We will, of course, put a linkin the description to all of
your contact information sopeople could learn more.
Michelle, thanks so much forjoining us today.
It was truly a pleasure gettingthe opportunity to meet you and
learn about what you do for ourgreat community.
So thanks for joining us.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
Thank you for having me what you do for our great
community.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
So thanks for joining us, thank you for having me, of
course, and thanks as always toour listeners.
And everyone.
Take care, have a wonderful day.
Have a wonderful day.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Stay blessed, yes, bye-bye.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Thanks for listening to the Good Neighbor Podcast,
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This is the Good Neighbor Podcast, the place
where local businesses andneighbors come together.
Here's your host, Jeremy Wolf.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Hello, hello everyone , and welcome back to the Good
Neighbor Podcast.
I am, of course, your host,jeremy Wolf, and today I'm
joined by Michelle Barone, andMichelle joins us from Moksha
Grace Consulting, moksha GraceCoaching, and Michelle is
actually the mother of aprevious guest that we had on
(00:33):
recently, krista Barone, and I'msuper excited to get into this
because what you do, michelle,it really resonates deeply with
me in where I'm at currentlywith my life.
I always say, on the north sideof 40, coming into a lot of
life realizations and thingslike that.
So get into this and learnabout what you do, because I
think it's incredibly valuablefor people.
(00:53):
So, with that said, first ofall, thank you for joining us.
Welcome to the show.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Thank you, thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Of course, and thanks as always to our listeners for
tuning in.
Start off, tell us a little bitabout Moksha Grace Coaching,
Tell us about what you do, andthen we'll get into the kind of
the backstory behind it.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Yeah, absolutely.
Moksha Grace Coaching issomething I put together after a
few tumultuous years and, youknow, had to have my tower
moment and kind of you knowbreak down and then you rebuild.
(01:29):
That's what happens and youpick up the stones that people
throw at you and you build yourown castle.
And so that's what I chose todo.
And I created Moksha GraceCoaching because when I was in
corporate, everybody stressedemotional intelligence.
You know you always went to theclasses, the courses.
(01:51):
You know you got to learnemotional intelligence.
You have to be aware about whatother people are feeling and
thinking and doing.
But they never talked about howwe could regulate our own
emotions and be emotionallyintelligent about ourself.
And so I saw this gap and Iwanted to fill it and help
people control their ownemotions, because that is the
(02:15):
only thing we are in controlover.
That's it.
We're not in control ofanything else.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I always tell I sorry to cut you off there.
I always tell my children thatsame thing is that we truly only
have control over internalwhat's going on right.
All the external factors andexternalities, these things that
happen, we just react to themand often we tend to go down
rabbit holes and we ruminateover external factors that we
(02:41):
have absolutely no control overand it makes us suffer
needlessly.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Absolutely.
And then we have theseknee-jerk reactions that can
ruin relationships, ruin jobs,ruin your relationship with
yourself.
You have all of these thingsthat can come up for you because
you're allowing your emotionsto control you, versus you
having a relationship andaccepting everything that you're
(03:10):
feeling and then moving on fromthere.
So I love what I get to do.
I love being able to bringpeople into that strength that
they have inside and get to knowthat and so that they can live
a more fulfilling and life fullof harmony.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
I love it Now.
Are you working exclusivelywith women, or do you work with
women and men?
What's your ideal demographic?
Speaker 3 (03:40):
My ideal demographic is anywhere from 30 to 80, going
through life transitions.
Your kids are going away toschool and going away to college
, and now you're going to be anempty nester.
You're changing a job, losingyour identity because something
(04:01):
happened to your job, Been there, done that, got the souvenir,
and so all of these things ofrebuilding and being an advocate
for other people is what I'vebrought in and how I coach, and
so the things that I've beenthrough are what I help other
(04:23):
people go through.
So my daughter's been through ahealth care journey.
She beat the heck out of cancer.
I have been that mom that neverthought that childhood cancer
ever existed.
I never thought that I wouldhave to be sitting in a hospital
room praying that my daughterwould survive, praying that my
(04:47):
daughter would survive, and thendealing with the after effects
of healthcare and long-termeffects that no one ever told us
about because we were justhappy she survived.
And so there's that aspectbeing a caregiver for our
parents mine and my husband'sand having to deal with that
right and seeing our parentspassing and transitioning.
(05:09):
That was really hard.
And so there's a lot of us thatare now in that group that we
have to take care of our parents.
Maybe they didn't plan, maybethey did.
We had a little bit of both,and so how do we get through
that and still hold our identityand still hold our emotional
(05:34):
center?
Speaker 2 (05:36):
I wanted to dig into that a little bit deeper because
oftentimes what I've foundthroughout my journey is that
the more challenging and tryingexperiences where at the time
going through it it seems likethe world is ending often help
shape our worldview and we helpdraw a lot of positive
inspiration on that.
So your daughter's cancer orbattle with cancer I'm
(05:59):
interested to learn how thatexperience and dealing with that
personally for your daughter,helped to shape your approach to
coaching today.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Wow, um, krista and I talk about this all the time
because you know there's a lotof people that would be like, oh
, cancer, cancer sucks.
And you know, and I know I wishI never went through that and
you ask Krista, you ask ourwhole family we would not be who
we are today if we had not gonethrough that.
And you know I'm a big believerin law of attraction and
(06:32):
universal laws.
You know, no, needed a pause.
That life was feeling out ofcontrol.
And at that time I was a stayat home mom.
She was three, my son was inkindergarten.
(06:54):
I was, you know, having thattransition where your kids are
now getting older and I'm likewho am I?
What am I supposed to do?
And all of a sudden, everythingcame to a stop, everything shut
down.
And I say this all the time, itwas like someone put a burlap
sack over my head.
All the lights went out.
(07:16):
I couldn't breathe, couldn'twalk, didn't know what to do.
I had no idea.
And my husband was the one thatstood up and said you know,
what we never give up that'swhat this family is about is we
never give up.
I still wear my bracelet.
We had these printed back inthe day and I still wear my
bracelet and he told everybodyhe had tons of family at the
(07:38):
hospital and he was like nocrying, go home, get it out.
When you're here, you'repositive and you're upbeat.
We are going to this is our newnormal and we are going to
fight this, or we are going tohelp Krista fight this, because
she ultimately had to be the onedoing the work, even at three.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
And she's going to draw off the energy and the
emotions.
And then when, what you'regiving off, if you're sitting
there in constant concern andworry and crying and all that
that that is going to bleed overto her?
Oh, I truly believe that.
Yeah, I'm sorry to cut you off.
Finish up.
And then I want to sharesomething.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
I just I literally just got goosebumps because
that's what would happen.
And so when I would lose itbecause I'm not perfect, of
course I'm going to going tolose it.
I'm scared to death.
I'm away from my husband.
We ended up having to go to StPete for stem cell rescues for a
month at a time.
I was away from my five-year-oldand how does a mom leave her
(08:36):
son and you're with yourdaughter and you're feeling
pulled in two differentdirections.
It was so challenging and I justkept remembering like we will
get through this, like and andthere and I've spoken on other
podcasts about this, just realquick.
There was a moment where I knowand it was in St Pete that some
(09:00):
there there was a man that cameto my room.
He was dressed as a preacher,some kind of religious being
preacher with a collar, walkedinto the room because I wouldn't
have let him in otherwise andsaid I hear you need to speak to
me, where I knew I could feelthis heaviness in the room and
(09:28):
it was like death at the doorand I was like no, you are not
taking her.
We have too much to do.
We will be the lighthouse, wewill shine hope for others, but
you will not take her and Idon't know what the heck
happened.
But then this guy shows up.
I write a thank you letterafterwards because he totally
made me feel so much better,allowed me to vent, and I went
(09:48):
to take it down to thechaplain's office.
And what do you think?
No one knew who he was.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
No one knew who he was.
There was no log of anyonebeing there.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Fascinating.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Fascinating, so just had to get that out because that
is faith, and I lost it.
After that I was really angryand going through the journey
that I've been on in the lastsix years, I realized I stopped
talking, I stopped having thatcommunication in my faith, and
(10:21):
so I had to come back to faithon my terms in my way.
So it's it's been, it's been ajourney, and coaching has
massively changed my life.
I've had a lot.
Good coaches, have good coachesand I have gone, put myself
through it, and I never asked myclients to do anything that I
(10:43):
have not done myself.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Very important.
It's good stuff.
It's like the mindset is justso powerful, whether it's faith
driven or whether it's just yourown mindset driving you.
It's like makes me think of JoeDispenza.
I'm sure you know Joe Dispenzaand how, what you?
It's funny how, when you startthinking positively and you
start thinking confidently andyou start putting that out into
your external universe, you, youstart to notice.
(11:14):
I think he calls them littlelike serendipities, little
coincidences, little breadcrumbsfrom the divine.
He calls them where, like,things just magically start
showing up and it's not likethese things weren't there
before.
It's just like you're shining alight on the positive and
you're choosing not to look atthe negative.
So, like when things are goingwrong, I have Murphy's law right
.
You're just like one after theother just keeps hitting you and
it's because you're focusing onthe negative.
(11:36):
There's plenty of positive outthere.
It's all about where you trainyour attention.
Yeah, and it goes back to wecontrol our emotions.
We control so if you gettriggered by something that
comes up, one of the thingsthat's helped me a lot as of
late, is that I actually justtake a step back because you
feel it right.
My kids do something to triggerme, my wife, I get an argument.
I feel it.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
My jellies.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
It comes up, it bubbles up, and I take a step
back and I take a deep breathand I just have a dialogue with
myself and I say oh that'sinteresting, oh, I love it.
Why are you coming up now, like,what are you trying to?
And what happens is, with thatconversation you realize how
ridiculous it is and thenegative emotion just disappears
away and I'm like, oh, that's,that's, and like I'm able to,
like, just diffuse these highintensity situations in a matter
(12:15):
of seconds mostly.
Sometimes it takes a littlelonger, like the deeper the
trauma from from my past, thelonger it takes to diffuse.
If it's something that goesback to childhood that takes me
some time, I'd have to put myshoes on and go running or do
something serious.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
But a lot of the stuff.
Now it's like I brush it offand I'm like, oh, I'm good, very
, very terrible, jeremy, you're,you're, you're speaking my
language.
You're speaking my language,it's perfect.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
I told you, this stuff resonates with me.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Yeah, it's.
I mean, there are people outthere that will ruminate over
something and I was talking to aclient a couple of weeks ago
and she was like, well, I'vegotten myself now down to 36
hours.
And I was like, what do youmean?
And she's like, well, you know,when we first started, I would,
you know, something wouldtrigger me and it would be like,
(13:00):
you know, two weeks.
I would be off and I would justbe in anger and just upset and
I've gotten myself down to 36and I'm like, yeah, we still
have some work to do.
I'm like 36 hours is still toolong to be ruminating.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
That's 35 hours and 59 minutes of too much
unintentional suffering, orwhat's the word I'm looking for?
Uncontrolled suffering.
I always say that now it's thatI want to choose what I suffer
over, meaning I don't want to betriggered and suffer
(13:35):
uncontrollably or involuntarily,if you will Like.
If I'm going to suffer, I wantit to be like if I need to learn
a new skill.
You can either make that ahorrible experience where you're
overwhelmed and you're feelingflustered, or you could lead
into it with a curiosity andjust frame the experience
differently and you're stillgoing through mental anguish.
(13:57):
That's what growth is right.
You have to go through the painto get there, but if you frame
that pain as growth and asprogress as opposed to just
typical suffering, it's superpowerful.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Yeah, and it's not.
You know, I don't even like tosay suffering, because we're
growing, and if we don't fail,if we don't fall down, we can't
get back up.
If we don't fail, we don't knowwhat we actually want.
You know, if we don't losesomething, we can't be grateful
for what we have, and so it'sjust what side of the stick do
(14:31):
you want to be on?
And that's what you get tocontrol, that's what you get to
choose and that's what's sopowerful.
And so when people come into me,especially the clients that are
overwhelmed and they're feelingout of control and they're
spiraling and they're just, theydon't know how to get out of it
, or they're in this pattern.
(14:51):
You know that just keepsreplaying.
I'm like we got to break thepattern, and the only way to do
that is to shift yourperspective.
How do you want to feel?
And so we go through all ofthat, and you know, and I have,
I have different offerings thatfit everybody at all levels, and
that's so important to me,because I want to be able to
(15:11):
help as many people as I cancome to this realization,
because it's so important.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Yeah, it could be incredibly difficult for
somebody to shift thatperspective that you mentioned,
and I think a lot of it goesback.
I mean, there's no shortcuts.
It just requires hard work, andI learned that every day, and
there's plenty of work to bedone.
It's a lifelong process.
What would you say?
What's some advice you can giveto somebody out there that is
(15:39):
feeling stuck Because it canfeel like there's no way out?
From my perspective, one of thethings I've learned is just
it's all about creating very,very small changes, micro habits
, and doing things one step at atime, and in doing that
consistently over time, youstart to see huge results.
Speak to that a little bit.
(15:59):
What can you offer somebody outthere that might be listening,
that is struggling right now?
What can you say to get themstarting to think about getting
out of that place?
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Yeah, first of all, there's going to be people
around you that are going towant to try and help you and do
it for you.
Don't do that because you haveto do this yourself.
You can reach out for supportand have people sit with you
right, like the whole Eeyore andPiglet.
You know they just sit, they be, they're in it.
But if you feel those warninglights and I like to call those
(16:29):
emotions that like the warninglights on our car and we've been
ignoring them for so long andthen our engine blows up and
we're like how did that happen?
And it's like, well, duh, youknow.
So it's like, well, if yourengine light is on and you have
been ignoring it for years, it'sgoing to bubble up.
So are you going to address itnow?
And and when is the right time?
(16:51):
And so I would say, get curious.
But you have to.
You have to take your emotionsand you have to.
What I, you know, and and I I'ma big believer in Abraham Hicks
you got to climb the emotionalguidance scale.
However, you can't go fromdepression to fricking bliss.
You have to go slow, and so ifyou can just get up one or two
(17:15):
notches, and I have a wholeemotional scale that I follow
and I help my clients follow,and it's like if we can just get
you from like depression andunworthiness up to boredom or
complacency, because then right,it's a step in the right
direction.
No-transcript see a squirrelrun up a tree, who knows?
(18:01):
But there's going to be somelittle nudge from the universe
that's going to help you shiftand the same thing will happen
as you're trying to move up thatscale.
Doing it alone can bechallenging.
I do podcasts, I do two a weekJump on the shows.
I'm always talking about thisstuff because if I can help
(18:23):
again, if I can help more people, we're all going to be better
for it, all of us.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Absolutely.
Running is a big one for me.
It's interesting.
I get some of the greatestideas that I have when I go.
So I used to listen to podcastsor music when I ran.
Now I don't listen to anything.
I find that what happens isthings just come to me.
I get ideas for work, to writesongs, poetry.
I'm very musically inclined.
All this stuff just comes to meand there's never been a time
(18:53):
where I've been feeling unwelland I strapped my shoes on and
went for a few mile run and Ididn't come back and say, man, I
feel amazing.
Sometimes I don't want to go doit because my body you know I'm
getting older so it's taxing onthe body, which is a little bit
upsetting to me that I got intoit so late.
I'm grateful that I found it.
Don't get me wrong, but I gofor a relatively long run
(19:18):
Saturday mornings.
We do like six miles, it's likea 10 K, and I often find that
my body is feeling rough for afew days afterwards and it's
tough to get back out there.
But it's such a powerfulexperience and exercise in
general, whether it's running,whatever it is, but something
about that continuous exercisewhen it comes to running.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
I'm not sure if you ever run.
I'm not a runner.
I I'm a walker.
I'll walk.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
And I do.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
I do walk in Cooper city, um, I haven't, uh, in a
few months and my neighbors arelike, come on, let's get back
out there.
So I do need to get back outthere, um, but I do have a path
that we follow and we we walkaround, um, where do you live in
Cooper and Cooper city?
Well, I'm actually in Davie, so, but across across on a hundred
(19:56):
, so I'm off of 106.
So on one side of the street isDavie, down two streets, and
then everything else is Coopercity.
So I'm on the two streets thatare private and Davie, um, and
then everything else is Coopercity around us.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Yeah, I often go to that neighbor.
I live in Cooper city, rightdown the road from where you're
at.
There's a place in right inthat area you're talking about
that you live.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
it's called or botanica organica oh yeah,
they're right around the corner,like literally.
I can hear the chickens, and Ihave chickens too, so our
roosters communicate, yeah sothey have.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
They do a full moon gathering every month there, the
group soul fire, alchemy wherewe do breath work, we do
meditation.
We do ice bath, all this typeof stuff.
We're talking all this holisticspace.
I'm really, really into thiskind of stuff.
You should definitely checkthat out.
You've been to the Full MoonGathering?
Speaker 3 (20:49):
I haven't been to the Full Moon Gathering.
I actually do my own.
I have my own Shaman Drum andwe have a very special property
and that might be for adifferent show or maybe you'll
have to come on my podcast andwe'll talk about it, but we have
a very special property here.
There's some amazing energyhere and I actually had always
(21:10):
wanted to do that and I had beenlooking for a full moon
something and then I was likewait a minute.
And I had been looking for afull moon something and then I
was like wait a minute, where isthis place?
And I was like it's onliterally right behind me.
And so I've been over there.
I did some juicing with oh mygosh, I can't remember his name
at the moment, but he makes someamazing juices, fruits and
(21:30):
Cahoot yeah, but the guy's nameand I can't think of his name
right now.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
You mean the guy that owns the property, not Ricky,
yeah.
No, yeah, I think I know whoyou're talking about, but I
can't remember his name either.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Yeah, but they're wonderful and you know it's just
.
But this property is full oflight, is full of magic and is
full of history of this area.
I don't know if Kristamentioned we were on the dead
files, but there's a lot, of alot of things that we've learned
(22:02):
about this area, so it was.
That was pretty cool too.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Yeah, a buddy, a good friend of mine, my best friend,
brian Schwartz.
He owns a business called he'sin Orlando.
It's called manhoodtransformation and we do we.
It's basically a brotherhood wework with.
It's very similar to whatyou're doing coaching but we do
a lot of holistic.
We delve into the plantmedicine space.
(22:29):
Often we do retreats.
We're planning one coming upsoon in Orlando.
We've been up to the mountainsbefore.
It's something about gettingtogether.
It's usually about eightbrothers, eight men getting
together for two or three days,having an intense psychedelic
experience thrown into the mixwith also other things, other
bonding experiences.
It's such a profound experience.
(22:50):
It's been some of the bestexperiences of my life.
It's a type of thing where I'llgo there and meet somebody for
the first time and sure I mightnot see them again for a year or
two, until another retreat.
But when I see them it's like Isaw a long lost brother.
There's a special connectionand bond that forms.
Oh yeah, really powerful workthat we're-.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
We're all connected.
We are all connected on alllevels, absolutely.
Yeah, amazing no-transcriptfreedom from your emotions by
(24:10):
radical he didn't say this, butI've added it radical
self-acceptance and radicalself-responsibility.
And so when I heard Moksha andI heard the, um, the, the
definition of it, and of coursethere's much deeper.
You know there's soulliberation, um, that's the
deeper definition.
Uh, but you gotta haveemotional liberation before you
(24:31):
can get to your soul.
You know there's, there'slevels, it's an onion, and so I
love that.
I love Moksha, and I held ontothat for quite a while and I had
a really cool meditation wherea dragonfly came to me and then
it turned into a phoenix and Iwas like, oh, you're Moksha,
(24:52):
that's cool, and so my logo is adragonfly.
And then, as I was gettingcoached, I have this amazing
coach and she was taking methrough some, some work and
grace.
You do it with grace, it'semotional liberation with grace,
and it just made sense to meand I fell in love with it.
(25:13):
And I fell in love with it.
And then Odonata Community,which is a community I have
where I do monthly or weeklycoaching.
It's a monthly subscription,it's $111 for the month, and
every week we meet and I coachfor a full hour on whoever
subscribes, whoever comes andshows up that night.
(25:36):
And what Odonata is is thespecies name of the dragonfly.
And dragonflies start as waterbugs underwater and one day they
climb up.
They just get the inclination.
They climb up on something apiece of wood, a stick,
something and they dry out, theypull their energy.
(26:00):
So you're talking about alchemy.
I'm an alchemy student.
They pull their energy up andthey unfurl these wings that
they never knew existed, andthen all of a sudden they can
fly and I was like that'sperfect, that's perfect, and so
that's why I have Odonatacommunity.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
I love the intention behind everything.
So important to approacheverything with intention and
clearly, this journey of yoursis so well thought out and you
can see it just speaking to you,right?
You, you exude this positiveaura.
So before you wrap up, I wantedto ask you some advice for
somebody like myself who is justnow starting.
(26:43):
I mean, really, just the pastfew years has been when I've
started working on all thisstuff and I have a long way to
go, but I feel called to helpothers with this process.
So I guess you can call me anaspiring coach, if you will.
I got a long way to go, but it'sa learning process.
What guidance could you offerto folks like me out there that
want to make a difference, thatwant to help other people that
(27:04):
are still going through?
Well, we all are still goingthrough their own process, but I
guess I kind of feel like,because I just started this and
I haven't and I've beenstruggling with a lot of this
stuff I feel like I'm not in aposition to help others yet.
But I don't think that's true.
I think that I am in theprocess.
We're all in the process ofgetting better, like, speak to
(27:25):
me on that because, from where Isit, this is something that
I've been thinking a lot about.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
You got to start somewhere right, and so the
decision to start, the decisionof wanting the other side of the
stick, is the first step, right, knowing what you want, knowing
what you don't want, knowingwhat you want and then figuring
out what is your process,because everyone's going to have
a different process.
You like to run.
(27:48):
I, last night, was a little uh,had some pent up energy, a
little nervousness.
I do karaoke, like right herein my little she shed, I have my
karaoke machine and I grabbedmy microphone and I was God help
the neighbors.
That's what I do and what's sointeresting.
(28:13):
And someone can start withsomething this simple, start
with the music that's resonatingwith you at that moment.
Right, it might be like, like,for me it's like angry rock,
like scream, like just go fullin.
You know Metallica and justhard rock, and then all of a
sudden, yeah, right, yeah,falling in reverse.
(28:35):
Their new album.
Oh, but wait a second, I canlisten to like fly leaf or I
don't know, lighter music, ifyou will.
And so, all of a sudden, I'm nowmoving myself up the emotional
(28:57):
guidance scale through music,and so you can choose how you do
your process, but it's findingwhat works for you it might be
art, right?
I remember when Krista was oractually my mom was in the
hospital and I was coloringbecause I love just coloring,
right?
I'm a kid at heart and nevergoing to grow up, and I would
(29:19):
notice that when I was reallystressed out, the colors would
be like I was really pushinghard on those crayons.
It's like you know dark colorsand and then all of a sudden you
would see that I'd start to golighter.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
You're getting out of your system.
You're getting all the angerout through the art.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
And that is finding your process.
And so once you find yourprocess now, you can turn it
into parts of it, into a routineso that you're getting ahead of
it.
So, for instance, I know thatto start my day, I have to
premeditate, and that means thatas soon as I wake up, I brush
(29:59):
my teeth, I get my cup of coffeeand then I sit down and I do my
meditation.
I'm premeditating my day.
I'm getting myself up to thislevel.
So no matter what happens to,because stuff is going to happen
and you get knocked down, butif I start down here, I'm going
to end up in the trenches.
If I start up up here, I'mgoing to be midway.
(30:22):
So I know my process and thedays that I don't meditate are
challenging, are much morechallenging.
And so know what works for you,what feels right, start getting
curious about that, even ifyou're tracking it, you're
journaling it, you're writing itdown when are you feeling good,
(30:44):
when are you not feeling good,what is happening around you,
and then start observingyourself Taking notice of it.
Yes, Without judgment, withoutshame, without you know any like
.
Just be the observer, that's it.
That's it.
That is the first step.
And don't ever think you'redone.
(31:05):
That is always everyone's thingis.
They come back and they're likebut I already did this, I
already went through this trauma.
Why do I have to do it again?
And I'm like?
Because you're now at a deeperlevel and now you're seeing and
feeling things that you didn'tfeel before, and so now we got
to go deeper, but we're neverdone.
We're never done.
(31:26):
It's a journey.
We are here for a journey.
We're not here to just be hereand then be gone.
We're here for the experience.
How we choose to experiencelife is up to us.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
I often have to remind myself to give myself
credit where it's due, becauseon any given day, it's easy to
fall back to old habits and oldprograms and then tell yourself
the story that you're not makingany progress and this is not
working.
And why is this not working?
For?
And the more you start talkingto yourself like that, you get
(32:00):
more of the same.
So I have to take a step backfrom that when I start telling
myself these old programs andstories and I just say wait a
minute, you are way better offthan you were before and you're
making progress.
Yeah, and you're doing goodthings.
Absolutely Always, always giveyourself credit for the work you
do, and just one piece ofadvice I've given to people out
there that are struggling isjust start with one thing, right
(32:21):
, don't try too much.
Whether it's again waking up inthe morning maybe the first
thing you do when you go to gofor a walk, right.
Or maybe it's sit down and dofive minutes of meditation, or
maybe it's just pick up yourjournal before you go to sleep
and just get your thoughts onpaper, and then the next morning
wake up and write, write alittle bit more, just small
little pieces, and do that for aweek or two yeah, write three
things down that you're gratefulfor, right?
Speaker 3 (32:42):
So I, I, so I, so I have a Facebook group and you
can go to mokshagracecom slashgroup.
And what I did is every morningI'm start eight o'clock, I'm
putting a prompt every morningand it's a prompt of what are
you grateful for, becausesometimes you sit down and
you're like what am I gratefulfor?
Okay, I'm going to write thesame three things.
(33:03):
So I'm doing a prompt becauseyou have to feel it.
If you're not feeling thegratefulness in your heart, then
you're just doing it as a chore.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
You're just going through the motions, yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
And that's not going to work, so I'm trying to make
it fun.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
No, and one of the things that I like doing when I
journal is once you startwriting down your wins for the
day.
That's something where, whenyou first start doing it, it's
like grasping at straws.
You can't find the wins andyou're like, oh my God, why
can't I find things that I'vedone well today?
But then, after several days ora week of doing it, what
(33:39):
happens is, throughout the dayyou start to subconsciously
notice positive things becauseyou know in your mind that
you're going to have to sitthere and write those things
down.
And then all of a sudden, it'slike the floodgates open and
you're like, oh my God, I'mrunning out of paper here.
I've had so many good thingshappen today.
It's all about where you trainyour attention and what you
choose to focus on.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
What you focus on, grows, yeah, all right.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Well, let's end there .
That was great.
We definitely need to continuethis conversation.
I love what you're doing in thecommunity.
I'm definitely going to checkout your stuff on Facebook.
I'll join the group and we'redefinitely going to connect
again after this For ourlisteners out there.
I know you mentioned theFacebook group.
You mentioned Odonata.
I hope I got the pronunciationright.
Let everybody know what's thebest way to reach you If
somebody's struggling and theywant to speak to you maybe your
(34:33):
phone number, your website?
Speaker 3 (34:33):
how can we connect with you guys?
Everything is at mokshagracecom.
It's very easy.
Just go to moksha gracecom.
You'll find all the differentthings on there.
Um, the, I can send out links,but even on social media it's
all under moksha grace.
I have a LinkedIn page, I havea YouTube, I have a YouTube, I
have Facebook.
So I'm like everywhere underMoksha Grace.
But go to mokshagracecom.
You can join my email list.
I send out a newsletter everySunday that has lots of helpful
(34:56):
tips in it, free stuff on how toyou know free ways to do things
.
You know different exercises totry to do things, different
exercises to try.
So I'm really trying to providevalue for everyone, because not
everyone can afford coaching,but yet everyone needs some
(35:16):
accountability and someone tohold your hand and walk the
journey with you not for you,but with you and just keep you
on the path.
That's it.
Just focus on moving forward.
That's all we're doing is we'rejust taking baby steps forward,
and that's so important andthat's what coaching is.
Coaching is in therapy You'renot going backwards, you're just
(35:39):
moving forward.
You're starting where you aremoving forward.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Excellent, I expect to be on your newsletter soon,
so sign me up for that or getthat to me somehow, absolutely
For our listeners.
We will, of course, put a linkin the description to all of
your contact information sopeople could learn more.
Michelle, thanks so much forjoining us today.
It was truly a pleasure gettingthe opportunity to meet you and
learn about what you do for ourgreat community.
So thanks for joining us.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
Thank you for having me what you do for our great
community.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
So thanks for joining us, thank you for having me, of
course, and thanks as always toour listeners.
And everyone.
Take care, have a wonderful day.
Have a wonderful day.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Stay blessed, yes, bye-bye.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Thanks for listening to the Good Neighbor Podcast,
cooper City.
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show, go to gnpcooopercitycom.
That's GNPCoopercitycom, orcall 954-231-3170.
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