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October 7, 2025 16 mins

If you’ve ever wondered whether couples therapy actually works—or worried it’s only for the brink—this conversation with Dr. Tasha Seiter offers a grounded, hopeful reset. We dig into why waiting six to seven years to get help is common, why it makes change harder, and how early, evidence-based counseling can quickly shift the patterns that keep partners stuck. Drawing from Emotionally Focused Therapy and Gottman research, Tasha shows how targeted tools reduce reactivity, increase trust, and create more moments of feeling seen and safe.

We share real-world examples of what “evidence-based” looks like in session: mapping the pursue–withdraw cycle, speaking from softer primary emotions, using gentle start-ups, recognizing bids for connection, and practicing fast repairs that actually stick. Tasha also explains why her Fort Collins group practice, Heart of the Matter Therapy, invests in advanced training and ongoing consultation—because couples deserve more than a vent session. The results are tangible: less escalation, clearer communication, and a bond that feels secure again.

Beyond the therapy room, we touch on how the pandemic reduced the stigma of mental health support and made it easier for people to seek help before crises. You’ll also hear about Tasha’s personal path, the role of resilience, and simple habits that keep love strong: daily check-ins, nightly appreciations, and small rituals of connection. If you’re in Fort Collins or nearby and you’re noticing the same fight on repeat, consider this your nudge to act early. Subscribe for more conversations with local experts, share this with someone who could use it, and leave a review to help neighbors find the show.

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SPEAKER_00 (00:00):
This is the Good Neighbor Podcast, the place
where local businesses andneighbors come together.
Here's your host, Nick George.

SPEAKER_02 (00:11):
Welcome to the Good Neighbor Podcast.
Are you in need of marriagecounseling in Fort Collins and
the surrounding areas?
One excellent option might becloser than you think.
Today I have the great pleasureof introducing your good
neighbor, Dr.
Tasha Seder.
Doctor, how's it going?

SPEAKER_01 (00:28):
It's going good.
Yeah, thank you so much forhaving me here.

SPEAKER_02 (00:32):
Tell us, I was gonna say all the little things after
your uh title there, but then Iknew I was it was a tongue
twister, so I just stopped.
Tell us all about what you do.

SPEAKER_01 (00:42):
Um well I I do a lot of things.
So I'm um couples counselor,it's my passion, is helping
people on their relationships.
Um, and I own a group practiceum where we focus on
relationship therapy here inFort Collins.
Um so we've got a brick andmortar location right over on
Harmony uh near Harmony um in uhcollege.

(01:07):
And uh yeah, we work on helpingpeople build stronger bonds and
work through trust and feelcloser.

SPEAKER_02 (01:18):
How did you get into the business of bringing people
back together?

SPEAKER_01 (01:22):
Such a good question.
Um, I was always so interestedin psychology, it has always
just been my passion.
Um, I'm an identical twin.
And when yeah, so when I was 15,um my grandpa gave me this book
about twins um and the natureversus nurture debate.

(01:44):
So I read that that book, suchan interesting topic.
All these twins, especially fromthis one adoption agency in
Minnesota, they were um borntogether, but they were reared
apart at this adoption agency.
They thought that raising twinstogether was was bad for them.

(02:05):
Um, and so they separated them.
But then there were all thesetwins that never knew that they
they had a twin brother, twinsister, um, and met their twin
as an adult, and they weredescribing in this book all
these like uncanny differencesor similarities and and little
differences, but uncannysimilarities that they had with

(02:25):
their twin um that they hadnever been around or met before.
And so I read that book and thatmade me realize I want to study
psychology.
This is what I'm so interestedin.
Um, and I wanted to learn how tohelp people.
Voice thought relationships wereso fascinating, like they're so
interesting.
How people interact and umlearned a little bit about John

(02:48):
Gottman, who was this researcherum who studies healthy
communication, and um he studiednewlyweds and he saw what were
these communication techniquesthat predicted happy and healthy
marriages years and years later.
Um, so I read about that when Iwas I was really young, and I

(03:08):
was just like, this is my lifemission, this is what I want to
learn about, this is what I wantto help people with.
So that's kind of how I got intobusiness and started my private
practice um five years ago andjust expanded into group
practice two and a half yearsago, and um that's been fun,
it's been a wild ride, it's beena lot of fun though.

SPEAKER_02 (03:30):
What are some myths and misconceptions in your
industry?

SPEAKER_01 (03:35):
Hmm.
I think one would be that inorder to come to marriage
counseling, you should need it,you should be really suffering,
or you should wait until you'rereally suffering.

(03:55):
And actually, the research saysthat the average couple waits
six to seven years of strugglingin their relationship before
they seek any kind of treatment.
Um, so that's definitely a bigmyth, is that going to therapy
means that you are on the brinkof divorce.
Like, I have people ask me thatall the time.

(04:16):
They say, like, well, does thatreally work?
Aren't people, when they come toyou like past the point of
repair, aren't they just likewaiting to see if they can get
divorced?
And it's always so interestingto me that that's a lot of
people the way that they seecouples therapy, because that
has not been even close to myexperience.

(04:36):
Um not even close.
Like the couples that come in,they get better, they get their
relationship gets a lot better.
That being said, of course,there's gonna be exceptions.
Some people come when it's toolate and their pattern's way too
ingrained, and they really arekind of just checking off the
box, and um, they're headedtowards divorce and splitting

(04:57):
up, and that's the best thingfor them.
Um, but that's more of theexception.
So I think that that's a hugemisconception, is people always
they always ask me that like,does it really work?
Are people just like uh, isn'tit too late?
All of that.
So um that being said, peopleshould come early, they should

(05:18):
come when they realize, hey, Ithink we're having trouble,
we're kind of going round andround.
I think we should go talk tosomebody um before it gets super
ingrained, so that you can learnthose communication skills like
as soon as possible.

SPEAKER_02 (05:31):
We know that uh that marketing is the heart of any
practice or business.
So who or when is your targetmarket?
I guess when marriage, I mean ityou just said, I guess maybe you
answered that question.
You're targeting people beforeit gets that bad.
Um, is there any other type ofuh of area that you're trying to

(05:52):
target mainly?
Um, do you do it online?
Is it how are you trying toreach out to your customers now
digitally?

SPEAKER_01 (06:01):
Yeah, so many different ways.
Um most of the time, people findus because they're searching.
Um they're searching, they'regetting to a place where they've
realized, and especially afterCOVID, I think that's one
positive thing about COVID isthat it really did relieve a lot

(06:23):
of the stigma on seeking mentalhealth care.
Um people are coming in in moreof a preventative way than they
were before, similar tohealthcare.
I would hope that people wouldmaybe go to the doctor every
year and get a checkup and say,How are things doing?
How can I do better?
Let's check and see how mycholesterol levels are and

(06:44):
things like that.
Um, I think people areapproaching mental health in a
more similar way since COVID,where they're thinking, oh, my
friend went to therapy, ithelped them.
Um this other person I know wentto therapy, it helped them.
So I think that there's less ofa stigma.
People are reaching out, they'relooking more, they're getting

(07:05):
online and um finding us more.
So a lot of our traffic comesfrom people who are actively
searching and finding us.
Um, other ways are justInstagram.
Maybe people start following usfor the little relationship tips
and um science-backed kind ofskills that we teach on the

(07:28):
Instagram.
But then when they startrealizing, you know what, I
think I could benefit from goingand talking to somebody, they
might reach out then.
Um, so that question of when arewhen are we getting people?
When it comes to marketing,there's all sorts of different
strategies, like um long-termstrategies, short-term
strategies.
The short-term strategies aremore aimed at finding people who

(07:51):
are looking for it now, they'reready.
Long-term strategies areengaging people who um maybe one
day they'll wake up and and say,like, I think I want some help
too.

SPEAKER_02 (08:04):
So, do you have you ever thought about um charity
charitably reaching outdigitally through a podcast
format to people to let themknow what you do and and what
separates you?
Um it doesn't seem like it'syour first time.

SPEAKER_01 (08:24):
Um charitably reaching out.
Help me understand that one moretime.

SPEAKER_02 (08:28):
Have you ever thought about doing your own
podcast?
Oh, oh, and and not getting paidfor it to reach people.
Um most people that do podcastsdon't get paid for it, like like
me.
But um, have you ever thoughtabout just uh trying to reach
people that way through yoursocial media, starting a format
like that?

SPEAKER_01 (08:45):
That's a good idea.
I have thought about it.
Um it seems intimidating.

SPEAKER_02 (08:54):
Yeah, um, I'm intimidated by accounting.
So what do you do for fun?

SPEAKER_01 (09:00):
Accounting.
Yes.
What do I do for fun?

SPEAKER_02 (09:05):
Yeah.
Um so people can get to know youa little better.
What what do you do when you'renot helping marriages come back
together?

SPEAKER_01 (09:12):
Yeah, I like to see live music.
Uh that's a big part of what Iget a lot of joy out of.
Music and live music andlistening to music in my car,
you know, singing in the shower.
Um, but and also dancing.
I go to dance classes.
I actually recently broke myfoot.

(09:33):
I broke my foot the week beforelast, so I can't do that very
much anymore.
Um, but I really love doingactive things, so it's been it's
been rough being injured.
Um, being outside, doing activethings, walks, hikes, bikes, all
that Colorado stuff, road trips.
Yeah, that's what I like to do.
What about you?
What do you like to do for fun?

SPEAKER_02 (09:54):
Well, I I like to get up at like 4 30, 5 in the
morning and and uh and eitherlift, um, or if I'm not doing a
lifting day, then I'm I'm ropingand hitting the bag.
Um, or if it's a beautiful dayand the sun's up and I'm up with
the sun, then I go run like sixor seven miles at my age is
about as far as I can go.
But I try to do one or the otherevery day or every other day,

(10:15):
depending on how wrecked I am.

SPEAKER_01 (10:16):
Wow.

SPEAKER_02 (10:17):
But nobody's ever asked me that question.
Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 (10:21):
Of course.

SPEAKER_02 (10:23):
So um the uh, you know, I don't always ask people
this question, but becauseyou're in marriage counseling
and a lot of people um feel liketheir life has been not as a lot
of people feel likepractitioners in this realm
haven't had the hard life thatthey've had.
I am gonna ask you this tougherquestion Is there any hardships
that have occurred in your lifethat make you that that made you

(10:45):
stronger?
What what are they and how didthey make you stronger?
Um, if if you're willing to talkabout them or it.

SPEAKER_01 (10:52):
Yeah, um just like anyone in life, I've had
hardships.
I don't think that anyone getsout of um life without hardships
ever, right?
Like the Buddha said, he saidlife is suffering, and it's not
just suffering, but suffering isa part of life for every single
human on the planet.
We all life is hard for all ofus, right?

(11:15):
Um, so of course, I've beenthrough my own uh series of of
heartbreaks.
I've been um just experiencedthe pressure of um intense
academic environments and thenbuilding a business.

(11:36):
Um I think that what isovercoming that look like?
I think my dad always says, likewhen you're going through hell,
keep going.
I think that's great advice.
Um, I think especially in ourculture, we almost have this
like rigid expectation that weshould be happy all the time or
not experience hardship.

(11:57):
And not only is that notrealistic, I think it's harmful
because it can make usself-invalidate ourselves when
we're feeling rough.
Like we do have many things umto be grateful for in this
country.
Um and in this day and age, eventhough there are tough things

(12:19):
also about this country in thisday and age, but um for example,
I never have to worry aboutwhere my next meal is coming
from.
Um but that doesn't mean thatlife isn't hard, and there are
many pressures and expectationsthat I have to face every day,
um, that sometimes are tough,and um I have to work really

(12:44):
hard to be here and maintainthat, maintain my business.
So yeah, I think that's that'sas far as I'll go with it.

SPEAKER_02 (12:57):
I'm sure it wasn't easy becoming a doctor.
That's why most people don't doit.
You don't have to tell us.

SPEAKER_01 (13:02):
Yeah, thank you.
No, it's not easy.
It's not a walk in the park.
Nope, nope, nope, nope.

SPEAKER_02 (13:06):
So, Dr.
Tasha, what is the main takeawaythat you would like for our
listeners to to take away fromour interview with you today
about marriage counseling forCollins?
What separates you?

SPEAKER_01 (13:17):
Yeah, what separates us, and this is why I built the
business, is um there's a lot oftherapy out there that is
incredible.
And there are also sometherapists out there in terms of
couples therapy that they mightnot specialize in couples
therapy or have advancedtraining in it, but they think,
oh, you know, it's therapy,right?

(13:39):
So they have couples come in,and I've had some couples come
to me and say that they're like,wow, this is so different than
the therapy I've been to before.
I think what it was before iswas just like vent sessions.
I was just venting about this,and then I'd get validated by
the therapist or something likethat.
So, what I wanted to build forFort Collins is a place where
people could go and they couldtrust that they are getting most

(13:59):
high-quality care.
Like there's an ex there's areason that people have spent
decades of research creatingthese therapy methods that
really do work and they've doneresearch on them.
Uh, like, for example,emotionally focused therapy,
EFT, it's got a 90% success ratein improving relationships.
And I believe that if thosemethods exist, we should use

(14:22):
them.
People have worked hard tocreate them, they've done like
rigorous scientific study onthem.
Um, the training programs arerigorous and advanced.
And so that is my goal with thepractice.
That is what I have done, isI've brought on people who have
advanced training in thosemethods or that get advanced

(14:43):
training after coming to theteam.
Um, and I consult with themregularly.
Um, so that's what sets us apartis you know that you're coming
and you're getting thosehigh-quality methods that come
from decades of research.

SPEAKER_02 (14:58):
Dr.
Tasha, what are the best waysfor people to find you online?
Uh, your website, social media,uh, what do they put in the
search bar and a phone number ifyou give that out?

SPEAKER_01 (15:10):
Yeah, our um our phone number is 970-33590.
Um, our website is www.marriagecounselingfortcollins.com.
Um and email, our email is alittle bit long and clunky, but
it's heart of the matter atmarriage

(15:32):
counselingfortcollins.com.
Our website is marriagecounselingfortcollins.com, but
our business is called Heart ofthe Matter Therapy, so that's
why that might um be confusing.

SPEAKER_02 (15:44):
Well, Dr.
Tasha, I I really appreciate youbeing on our show, and we
definitely wish you and MarriageCounseling Fort Collins the very
best moving forward.

SPEAKER_01 (15:53):
Thank you so much.
I hope the same for you and yourpodcast, and what a fun thing
that you're doing for localbusinesses.

SPEAKER_00 (16:00):
This is the Good Neighbor Podcast, the place
where local businesses andneighbors come together.
Here.
Thank you for listening to theGood Neighbor Podcast.
To nominate your favorite localbusinesses to be featured on the
show, go to gnpfortcollins.com.
That's gnpfortcollins.com orcall 970.
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