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September 2, 2025 68 mins

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When your child transitions into spirit, nothing is ever the same. In this deeply heartfelt episode, Brian speaks with Betsy Thibaud Stephenson, author of Blackbird: A Mother’s Reflection on Loss, Grief, and Life After Suicide.

Betsy’s son Charlie transitioned at age 21, just eleven weeks after expressing thoughts of self-harm. During that same six-week period, her beloved mother-in-law and family dog also transitioned. Rather than turning away from grief, Betsy faced it head-on—and began writing from her open wound instead of waiting for a scar.

This conversation explores the real grief journey—messy, sacred, and unfiltered.

🔑 Topics Covered:

  • Charlie’s spirit and legacy 💫
  • The emotional weight of suicide grief 🖤
  • Why guilt is almost universal in child loss
  • How grief impacts the body and mind
  • The myth of grieving “the right way”
  • Writing as a tool for survival
  • Allowing space for others’ grief stories
  • Keeping the spirit of our loved ones alive

✨ Guest Info:

Betsy Thibaud Stephenson

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🗨️ How do you keep your loved one’s spirit present in your life?
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to connect with others walking this path.

🔗 Episode Resources:

  • 📚 Get Betsy’s book: Blackbird on Amazon

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  • 🎙️ More episodes like this: Grief 2 Growth Podcast Archive

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