June 26, 2023 • 71 mins
A question I often get is, "Can a Christian be a medium?" People also ask if Christians can go to mediums? Stacey Lynn Cripps and I address those questions in this interview.
I've known Stacey for a couple of years, since she did a blind reading for me, as part of a test. Watch the episode to learn how something she said in that reading came true a year and a half later!
Stacey Lynn Cripps is a well-known and highly respected Evidential Spiritual Medium, Mentor, and Advisor of the Gift of Spirit. Stacey is Spiritually gifted with a Divine, Heavenly connection to help others feel love and healing through Heartfelt Spirit Communication.
Stacey believes we are all endowed with Spiritual Gifts, and she is here to be a personal guide and Spiritual teacher. She has a rare God-given gift, which allows heart-to-heart Spirit communication with departed loved ones. These evidential healing messages from loved ones in Heaven instill peace, love, and joy.
Stacey’s work with grieving families, St. Jude, Helping Parents Heal, and others continues to shine a light on how our loved ones are never far away and are still loving and guiding us here on many levels through Spiritual signs, Synchronicity and so much more.
Stacey discusses how spirit guides her work and how she helps grieving parents connect with their children in spirit. She shares that children who have passed come through with a lot of evidence and details to bring comfort and healing to their families. Stacey talks about the messages of forgiveness, explanation, and renewed connection that children in spirit often bring through for their parents.
Stacey also opens up about connecting with famous people in the afterlife, like Elvis Presley, Whitney Houston, and Prince. She shares how music and entertainment were a big part of her upbringing, which created a natural connection for her to spiritually connect with musicians and celebrities who have passed.
Stacey talks about meditation's role in her spiritual awakening and how guided meditations can help others experience spirit. She released an album called "Guided Meditations to Awaken the Spirit" to help people connect with their loved ones in heaven. Stacey also shar
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey everybody, this is Brian, back with another
episode of Grief to Growth, andtoday I've got with me Stacy
Lynn Cripps.
I'm really excited about havingStacy here.
She and I have met a couple oftimes before and she is a
fantastic, gifted individual.
She's devoted her life tohelping others discover the
spiritual within and to findsolace through connection with
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those not longer on this planeof existence.
She is a highly respectedevidential medium a spiritual
medium or evidential medium, Ishould say.
She's a mentor and she's anadvisor of the gift of the
spirit.
Now I'll ask you what thatmeans.
Two years ago I was fortunateenough to have a personal test
reading with Stacy for a programthat Stacy was applying for,
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and it was an incredibleexperience.
I'll tell you that story lateron, how it unfolded over the
last couple of years, but itreally left a mark on me, the
reading I had with her, and Ican't wait for her to share her
insights with everyone.
She's been gifted with a divineheavenly connection.
She brings comfort and healingthrough heartfelt spiritual
communication.
She's worked with many grievingfamilies through St Jude and
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helping parents heal, and thatilluminates the powerful idea
that our loved ones are trulynever far away from us and she
offers guidance of love throughspiritual science and
synchronicities.
She's completed a divinelyguided meditation album called
Guided Meditations to Awaken theSpirit.
That's now out on Amazon, appleand iTunes Music.
We'll talk about that as well.
In addition to her spiritualwork, she's an organizer and
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trailblazer founder of Chicago'sFirst Grief and Healing
Conference through a newconference and organizing the
Love Force Breakthrough events,where she set the stage with
James Redfield, the number oneNew York Times bestselling
author of the Celestine ProphecySeries.
She's been extensive mediaappearances from local radio
shows like W G N's Radio, daneNeal W G N's Radio is Dane Neal,
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I should say and the Bill andWendy's show.
She's also connected with somepretty impressive celebrities in
the afterlife, such as PrinceWhitney Houston, elvis Presley
and many more.
So with that I want to welcomeStacy Lynn Cripps.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Oh, thank you, Brian.
So honored to be with you andbe on your show.
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Yeah, I'm really interested in having you here.
You and I met, as I said, acouple of years ago I think it
was April of 2021.
You didn't know who I was.
I had heard about you, but Iknow a lot about you and you
gave me an incredible readingthat I want to talk about as we
get into it.
Before we get started with that, I was like to ask people how
did you get started on yourspiritual journey?
How did you discover your gifts?
Speaker 2 (02:33):
So evidentially I mean evidentially or I had this
gift growing up and I was notaware of it when I was born I
wasn't supposed to live but acouple hours and they always
called me special growing up andgifted.
Growing up I really didn'tunderstand it.
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I had an all knowingness or aninner knowingness throughout my
life about things, about people,and so I just remember I had
adults speaking to me when I wasyounger and asking me questions
and things like that.
My parents would have them meetwith me or ask me a question or
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something which I am recallingnow and I really never
understood it.
Until 1995, my best childhoodfriend, heather, was on her way
home from college and she waskilled in a car accident.
And we had grown up my entirelife since we were four and
eight years old and my grief wasa trauma state.
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So I just spoken to her on thephone just probably two weeks
before and I just was, you know,in my early twenties and I just
experienced trauma.
I just went numb, I couldn'treally process anything.
And I just remember after herfuneral I woke up in the middle
of the night and I was cryingand I was going to her house in
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a dream and knocking on the doorand she wasn't there and I
asked God to help me.
I said, please help me, I can'treally go on.
It's been that time I believeit probably been six months to a
year and I fall back asleep.
And she came to me in a dreamunder an oak tree and she just
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began speaking to me and I couldfeel her essence and her love.
I could see her in my dreamstate and we sat under this oak
tree and we talked for multiplenights and she gave me evidence
of what happened to her in hercar accident that a woman pulled
over the car and was holdingher before she passed, and so
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she wasn't alone when she passed.
She also had a lot of angelsaround her.
When she would come to me in mydream state, so I just would
wake up in the morning and Ijust felt complete love.
And when we were young we usedto hang out under this like
berry tree for hours and hoursin the summertime and just talk.
So it's very synchronistic.
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And she gave me to me one daywalking into a grocery store
shortly after the drains and myear was ringing and I heard her
voice and she said call my momtonight and tell her what I've
been telling you about theaccident.
I need you to call her tonight.
And I could hear her voice loudand clear and I got chills
everywhere and I was with myfiance or husband he's my
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husband now and he said justcall her mom, she's coming to
you, call her mom.
And so I called her mom thatnight and I told her that
Heather's been coming to me andshe's always with angels.
She told me that Heathercollected angels.
A year before she passed shehad an angel collection.
He also told me that when Ishared that a woman pulled over
the car and was holding herbefore she died, she said I
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didn't believe them.
I said who?
She said the EMTs on the sceneshared with me that a woman was
with Heather and holding herbefore she passed.
And I haven't been able to go onwith my life knowing that she
was alone, which were neveralone.
And that was my first spiritualexperience in 1995.
And then, after my loved onesbegan passing my grandmother and
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my grandfather and my uncle.
They would come to me on theday of their passing and I would
feel them in my dream state andsee them and speak to them and
receive healing from spirit.
And it just happened over andover again until 2011.
And in 2011, I went to aconference in New York to see a
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lot of spiritual authors and Iwas in an executive coaching
program because I'm an executivecoach and spiritual coach, and
I was hearing about theseauthors and I went to see them
and we were taken throughmeditation at the start of the
conference to Amazing Grace,with Dr Wayne Dyer on the stage
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and first time meditating to aguided meditation, and I was
opened up to see, feel and hearspirit, my wakeful state, and I
heard everyone.
I saw everyone when I wasmeditating to Amazing Grace and
when I came out of thatmeditation I saw in hologram
form my grandmother and mygrandfather and my uncle up on
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the stage next to this beautifulvase of flowers and my
grandmother spoke to me and shesaid would loving you still and
we're guiding you still.
And I was crying like justsobbing like the whole time.
And then another speaker,another speaker, came on the
stage and we went throughanother meditation and I met my
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guardian angel, who was with mein a car accident back in 1997.
I was in a car accident and Iwas paralyzed from here down for
like eight hours and a manjumped in my car and my husband
got out of the car and he was aFilipino man and he said you're
okay, breathe, just breathe, youneed to breathe.
He said wiggle your toes, youare not paralyzed, I'm a doctor.
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Well, I thought that.
I thought that doctor was real.
I thought it was real andthere's a number of accidents
that happened on like shoredrive in Chicago and this
happened.
We were one of them.
We were hit from behind and myhusband never saw him, but I
thought he pulled over the carand got in the car with me as a
doctor and told me I wasn'tparalyzed.
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Well, when I had this angelmeditation next, this man came
to me and he said my name isRenee, I am a doctor and we've
met.
And when I came out of themeditation, I was just full of
chills and tinkling and thespeaker said okay, now ask the
person who's sitting right herewhat their name is.
And I turned to her and I saidwhat's your name?
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And she said my name is.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Renee.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
So that I had a spirit awakening.
That was September 17th in 2011.
I was having them all day longat this conference was a Hay
House conference, and I just wasin a state of bliss and
wholeness and oneness for abouttwo weeks.
I came home from New York andthere was a rainbow over my home
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when I pulled in the driveway.
So the spiritual experiencescontinued.
For weeks I had angels with me.
I heard angel hymns on a regularbasis when I was awake and when
I was sleeping I was speakingin a way that was not my
language.
When I would answer questionsand speak with people, the words
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thou and shall and things likethat were coming out of my mouth
.
My husband was saying do youknow what you just said?
And I said no, what did I say?
You said I don't know, but youjust said thou and shall and
forth for thou.
And I just had these angelswith me and I was filled with
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unconditional love, full ofunconditional love.
And it was next it was.
I can't even relive what Iexperienced because it was so
phenomenal.
I was just completely opened tosee, feel and hear spirit from
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that moment forward, not just inmy dream state, but now in my
wakeful state.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Okay.
So you said see, hear and feel.
So you see spirit as well.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Yes, yes, I saw spirit objectively for a couple
of years.
That means with my eyes open,and I came to a point where I
just asked God to close thatbecause it was too startling for
me.
I'd be in a workshop andthere'd be a man at the table
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across from me and I saw hiswife deceased wife and I and she
was standing right there andshe was looking at me and
talking to me and I would justget startled.
But she wanted me to give him amessage from him, and so I did
a break, walk over to him andsay I just want to share with
you that this woman.
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I saw her standing with you.
She had on a denim skirt and awhite shirt and she made me feel
like she was your wife and themessages she wants you to get
back to your music.
And he was, you know, cryingand shaking open up his wallet,
showed me her and the exact sameoutfit and said I'm a country
music singer and my wife passedaway a few years ago of, I think
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, ovarian cancer, and I haven'tgotten back to my music since
then, and so that was verypowerful message for him.
But after that it was happeningso often that I just said, okay
, only when I'm, only when I'mworking.
It's too much, it's a lot ofenergy and it's I mean yeah, I
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mean I'd be getting my nailsdone and it would be happening
around me.
And so now I just see spirit inmy inner vision when I give
spiritual readings.
But I see feeling here.
I can also smile things ortaste things.
They also come very close andgive me physical sensations in
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my body as to what happened tothem, that they passed.
So it's very, very evidential.
But when God opened me up, itwas very much to get on this
path and I held back a coupleyears.
I held back about three years.
I only did it privately,through word of mouth, because I
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had a recruiting business.
I was a recruiter for 18 yearsand I had an executive coaching
business and things were boomingin my business and I kept
feeling what are people going tothink?
What are people?
What's happening?
I really found out about whatthis was.
The spiritual gift that it waswas about 10 months later.
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I really didn't realize that Iwas having a spiritual awakening
.
I thought it was just my lovedones coming to heal my heart,
which is what it is as well,heal my grief.
But I really didn't realizeuntil I met a man by the name of
James Von Bragg who told methat I was a medium and I didn't
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even know what medium meant ormedium was at the time and I
just said, no, I'm not, I'm acoach.
So I went through.
It's amazing when you experiencethings like this, the teachers
show up right away to help guideyou and to help teach you.
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I had a number of spiritualguides show up during my
spiritual awakening in mymeditations because, after I
experienced my grandmother andgrandfather and my uncle, I was
meditating every single day andall my loved ones were coming to
me and I was crying and healing, and healing just on a daily
basis.
It was incredible and I wasreceiving quite a bit of
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evidence too.
Spirit was developing me.
So my friend Heather and mygrandparents they were all
developing me on a daily basisand I would share things with my
family and they'd say how doyou know that?
I said, well, grandma told me,so I would just.
I mean they would tell methings that I wouldn't have
known.
I mean growing, and so that'show it worked.
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I was in meditation.
I've been meditating for 11years now, going on 12 years,
and Spirit would take me throughjourneys in my meditations
where I'd be on a beach, or I'dbe on the top of a mountain, or
I'd be under this oak tree, or,and so I started to journey in
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meditation, which?
Speaker 1 (14:58):
I'm curious because I've seen, looking at your
website and talking to you alittle bit, you use language
that makes me wonder about yourreligious background.
You talk about spirit, you talkabout God, so tell me more
about, about your religious.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
So I am Christian and Catholic.
So I grew up Christian in theBible Belt in Wheaton Illinois
and I met Billy Graham and I Igrew up going to private
Christian schools and so God wasalways a forefront in my life
in Jesus, and so I always knewmy entire life that God was
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there and I had a strong faithand I had a very chaotic
childhood.
So my father was not in histruth and he was just not honest
and he did take money frompeople.
He was a bit of a con man andhe was wanted by the FBI by the
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time I was 16, 17 years old.
So I grew up in that type ofenvironment where I knew from a
very young age that my fatherwas not not living his truth,
not in his truth, and so I wasalways kind of tuning in because
he was unpredictable in a wayand so and here we are going to
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Christian schools and privateschools and my faith is very
strong, but I'm definitely in anenvironment growing up that is
not resembling resembling thatfaith that makes any sense.
It was very much like a dualtype, not measuring up, but when
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I was going to school I couldfeel.
I could feel that I wasprotected my entire life, so my
father was abusive and I justknew I was protected on some
level.
But as I grew up, I we had torecite Bible verses in front of
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the class every week, and so Iwas very familiar with that too.
And then, before I married myhusband, I became Catholic.
My grandparents also becameCatholic later in life, and I
would go to this charismaticchurch in Michigan with my
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grandparents when I was like atween, like a teeny bopper young
, and I saw hands of healingthere.
I saw hands of healing and itwas just, it just felt very
spiritual very healing when Iwas there.
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So after I had my awakening, Ineeded to understand this
biblically.
So I was guided to go underspiritual direction.
So a spiritual director I hadfor about a year who helped me
understand that I was havingspiritual experiences and I was
experiencing spiritual gifts.
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And that's how it, how Iunderstood it, that I've been
given a spiritual gift andunderstanding that spirit is our
birthright.
We're spirit in the body firstand foremost.
That's biblical and we all havethis connection.
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We all have it.
We're all mediums and channelsand instruments of that presence
within us, and so we all havethis gift and meditation is very
much, and some of us are justreally developed, more so than
others because of how we grew up, because of always tuning in,
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which is what I was doing myentire life, or just having
these spiritual awakenings.
You know I signed up for this.
Evidentially I was brought hereto be a spiritual teacher and
spiritual medium and mentor.
Little did I know because Iknew nothing about this.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
So the spiritual director you mentioned was that
in the Catholic church.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Yes, so it was through San Francisco Ministries
here in the Chicago area and Iwould just meet with her weekly.
I was having so many spiritualexperiences around that time,
synchronicities and signs,everything was just coming in on
a daily basis and so, sharingall of this, and then when the
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families came from St JudeHospital, I was still very much
in the closet, if you will, fora couple years when I read for
the first child in spirit aroundthe day of her passing.
It was a friend of mine'sneighbor in another town and
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this little girl came throughfor an hour and eight minutes
and blew everyone away.
She was incredibly.
I'd chill all over.
She was incredibly evidential.
She mentioned her grand, I meanher grandpa's name.
She brought through a name of alittle girl who was with her
from St Jude who passed threedays before.
She mentioned her name, maya.
She was just coming in with somuch evidence and that reading
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that I gave back in 2000, Ithink 13, changed my life.
Yeah, she was eight years oldwhen she passed and my son was
eight years old at the time andit just I cried for days.
I mean, she was around me, sheset up, she orchestrated her
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family calling me, it wasn't aschedule of reading, they just
called me at night and she wasaround me the entire day, this
little girl in spirit.
My phone wasn't working all daylong and because she was so
close, I did see her.
With my eyes open, the cornerof my eye, I saw her.
She said that you're going totalk to my mom tonight and
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you're going to talk to myfamily tonight.
I was like okay, and then theycalled me that night.
So that changed my life andthat's when I said okay, all
right.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
So I'm curious, because I'm really glad that you
were encouraged by the church,because, frankly, that's a
little bit surprising.
Yes, I've known several mediumsthat they call themselves
Christian and I get a lot ofpushback from the church a lot
of times and from people thatclaim to represent the church.
So have you experienced that?
Speaker 2 (22:10):
I haven't.
So I met with.
I met with our priest at thetime back in 2012 or 13.
And I said this is happening tome and it was right after her
reading this little girl'sreading.
And he said you're experiencingholy experiences.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Awesome.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
And he said that you're being called to be in
these gifts, and that's when herecommended that I have a
spiritual guide or directorthrough the Catholic ministries
to explain this to me, to helpme understand this.
I needed to understand thisbiblically just because of my
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upbringing, sure and reading theGospels, I mean the Gospel of
John.
Anybody just needs to read theGospel of John to understand
that we are given, we are spirit, and we have this connection
for healing and for love, and sowe have light, we have spirit.
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It's called so many things, somany things, but we are this
first and foremost, and sothat's what I'm here to really
teach help people understandthat this is biblical and it is
accepted in the church, and it'sall about the language.
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It's all about the language.
So there is, there's a Bibleverse in Deuteronomy that talks
about gypsies and mediums thatdo not follow God.
Well, that is not.
That is very general, and amedium is also called the
channel, a prophet.
I do receive divineintelligence, I do have divine
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spiritual guides, and so it is.
It is a spiritual gift, it'sthe gift of healing.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
I completely agree with you.
I think it is about thelanguage you know and people
will use they'll.
I was talking with a SanFrancisco priest I believe he is
but he actually escorts peoplein the other life that get kind
of stuck in between and helpsmove them along.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Oh yes.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
And we were talking about this stuff and I was like
well, basically, you know,you're a medium.
And he said, well, no, we can'tuse that word.
I don't want to get in troublebecause I still want to remain a
priest, and so I, but it's.
It's also important, and I'mglad that you're doing this,
because for some of us I grew upin the church as well, and a
lot of people that are the groupof the church they're just not
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ready to throw everything out,and so when someone in church
tells me you have to choose thisor this, it's nice to know that
what we're experiencing isbiblical, that it doesn't go
against what the Bible says.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Yes, I mean, these are the gifts of the spirit.
This is, these are spiritualgifts and you know, I really
believe God raises the veil.
God raised the veil for me.
I mean that day so I could seemy grandparents and my uncle
right there and hear from mygrandmother, who was very close
to growing up and stayed withthem many, many, many summers.
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So I needed that healing and Ireally feel that we are put on
this path at some point toexperience the God within Really
.
This is spirit flowing throughus.
Spirit flows through me inspiritual readings and they're
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orchestrating this.
They are doing this.
They are doing it.
I mean, I say to everyone thatspirit orchestrates the time of
your reading.
They orchestrate them bindingme, they orchestrate who's
coming through and what they'rebringing.
So a lot of people feel that,oh, it's coming from you.
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No, it's not coming from me,it's coming from spirit.
I'm just open to see, feel andhear.
But everything that they'rebringing they are bringing to
touch your heart, to awaken youA spiritual opens you up more to
feel their love and receivethem.
Sometimes it awakens themcompletely to actually have this
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themselves, which I wish foreveryone.
So I mean, I do feel thatthere's so many books that are
written about awakeningconsciousness, christ
consciousness, right the giftsof the spirit.
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I mean the indwelling, which iswhat it is Really.
So when we awaken to our spiritwithin, we can receive.
And when I had my awakening, Ikept seeing my three-year-old
self in my mind's eye.
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When I experienced that in 2011, I kept seeing her.
She'd appear in my dreams,she'd come to me.
So I started feeling my trueself.
At three years old, I startedfeeling my or higher self or
come back to me, and I have ameditation on my album about
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that, about your inner child andconnecting with your inner
child, which is who you trulyare.
And so that also happened in myspiritual awakening and it
healed me too.
So, after all this pain andgrief in my life, I returned to
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who I truly am throughout thatspiritual awakening time and I
felt myself more gentle, lighter, less anxious I had.
I will say that the divine givesyou energy, gives you healing
energy, and I have experiencedthis in my work, where I may not
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feel well or I have laryngitisand I'm about to do a live event
, and I go up there and I openup to spirit within my heart and
the laryngitis disappears andthen, when I'm done with the
event and I start grounding, thelaryngitis comes back.
It is amazing how we canreceive what we need on this
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journey and it doesn't matterwhat we're really experiencing.
I've done events where I meanmy dog just passed away and so
I'm just filled with grief andI've been sad for three days
crying, and then I go intospirit and all that's gone.
As I'm reading so I know thatwe can receive beautiful,
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healing, divine presence, energyfor what's on our spiritual
journey.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
I know that you've read for quite a few parents
because you're associated withthe Holy Parents, heal and St
Jude's, and what's what's thatbeen?
What's it like to connect witha child?
For a parent, what does thatfeel like for you?
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Well, I love children , so I just I've always had a
beautiful connection to childrenmy entire life, so just helping
with my nieces and nephews andthings like that growing up.
So for me I want them, thechildren in spirit, to come as
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close as they can to bring thishealing and this love.
So I feel I may open up alittle deeper than usual and
with that they really knock itout of the park for their
families and let them know thatthey're very alive in spirit and
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they're very much with them andloving and guiding them on a
daily basis.
So I just feel like attracts,like so I learned this a while
ago Every spiritual medium isvery unique and it's because
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they are who they are.
They're just uniquely threaded.
I mean for me, I mean I lovechildren, I love being around
them, I love, I love my, mynieces, and I mean I was so and
so I just I love being aroundthem, and so even even babies I
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mean.
So I'm just that, I'm just thatperson, and so I feel that that
also is part of it, becausethere's such a comfort level
there with that connection.
It's very aligned.
And so also, with me growing up, I grew up with a lot of music
(31:30):
my entire life, and so I playguitar and I sang a little bit.
My dad was an Elvis impersonatorsinger, so I mean I grew up
with that my whole life, whichis why I have a strong
connection to rock and rollheaven, because music was
playing in my home every day andmy dad would sing on the
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weekends in the house, and so itwas just always just part of my
life growing up.
And so I'm very tuned andaligned with with people who are
singers, songwriters, musiciansand spirit as well.
It's very strong connection andthat's why I feel too.
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I mean I can feel when it'sreally incredibly strong when
I'm giving a spiritual reading,and sometimes it's not as strong
.
That's just how it works,that's just yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Well, I'm curious about parents, those in
particular, because, excuse me,I assume that most people come
to you or in some sort of grief.
That's why they're coming, thatpeople want to connect to a
certain person, but when it's aparent and a child, you know
there's there's a lot of timejust feelings of guilt with the
parent.
This is my fault, the child'slife we feel like the child's
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life might have been cut short.
So what?
What, generally speaking, kindof messages do you get to help
the parents heal?
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Self forgiveness sometimes is one of them.
That comes through anexplanation especially children
who pass by suicide reallyexplaining what they were going
through and what was happeningwith them, with mental health,
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and for any family members too.
It's not.
A lot of people feel that theycould have done something.
They could have picked up thatphone, they could have been over
there, they could have donesomething.
And when I'll just speak interms of the children, when they
come through, they come throughon this feeling of that they
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were, they had gotten to thispoint within their being that
was so low, very, very, very low, in a way of like a depressed
state where they just wentthrough the motions and weren't
even thinking about it.
That makes any sense, so itreally.
It brings through healing,healing, and they don't want
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them.
Another another thing thathappens is that when they come
through around how they passedand how they took their lives,
it's also they don't want themto focus on that anymore.
They want them to focus on thehappy things that happen in
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their life and how they livetheir life.
They want them to focus on thatand how they help them, how the
parent help them throughouttheir life, and they're coming
through, to thank them throughthat too, and that this bond is
still there, with the spiritualconnection, that this love.
It's the love that really is thestrongest part of the
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connection, the spiritualconnection and spiritual
development that happens.
It's the love.
I want them to feel their loveand they want to make them smile
again too, like when they comethrough and they bring through
memories or something that theyjust did right before this
reading, that I was with you,and they bring that through, and
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so they want to connect withthem in a renewed place so they
can feel their love and theycould love them and then they
can love them.
So they want that love, thatlove exchange, and they also
want them to to talk to them andto be in a place of knowing
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that they're still with themspiritually, even though they
may not see them, but feel them.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Yeah, I know, when I had my reading with you and you
didn't know who I was, all youhad was my first name.
I didn't know I was going to behaving the reading with, so it
was a blind reading.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Right, right yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Yeah, and I got.
I got all that from.
I felt like Shayna was there,she cared about me, she was
still in the relationship andeverything.
And it was incredible becauseyou talked about the work that I
do and the work I would bedoing, and you had no idea who I
was or what I do, but you saidsomething.
This is why I want to sharethis story with people, because
this is pretty.
(36:18):
This is really wild.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
She said so, I said so, I said that she said.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
She said yeah, she said, but yeah, she talked about
me getting on a plane and goingto a conference and speaking, I
think, behind a podium, andeverything, and at this point I
had never done any of that.
This was in April of 2021.
And then last year in August,after you and I met at the
Helping Parents' Heal conferencea bunch of synchronicities I
(36:44):
can't go into all of them, butSuzanne Geesman was involved in
it the synchronous andeverything.
But I was on the plane comingback and I usually listened to
music and my music wasn'tworking and I downloaded a bunch
of movies and they weren'tworking.
So I said I'm just going to goand listen to a medium reading
that I had, which I never do,and I had your recording with me
and I listened to it and thatcame back and I heard you say
(37:06):
you're going to be on a plane,you'll be flying.
It was like this was a year anda half later and I just happened
to listen on that particularday as I was flying back.
Otherwise it really wouldn'teven occurred to me.
So I love sharing that storybecause people will say
sometimes mediums will saythings that are really general,
they're very vague.
They love you.
Well, you gave me some veryspecific information at the time
(37:27):
.
You talked about shots and Ihad been giving Shane the shots
for arthritis.
So you gave me some veryspecific information at the time
, but there's no way you couldhave known a year and a half
later I was going to be havingthis experience.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Right?
Well, she knew.
So they're in theall-knowingness and the
afterlife, so they know past,present and future what's going
to be happening.
And so what she was doing wassetting you up in a
synchronistic event, which theycan do, do experience her
fullness, her essence, her love,a gotcha moment, which they do.
(38:02):
They will set you up in thisgotcha moment so, which is very
much more of an awakening.
When you experience thatsynchronistic event with your
loved one in spirit, you'rehaving more of this awakening
with them of knowing that, wow,it's just the feeling I call the
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spiritual vortex, the feelingsthat you experience when you're
in a synchronistic event withthem in spirit.
It is amazing, it very much is,and she set you up for that.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Yeah, yeah, I was.
It was at the time, you know,we did the reading.
I was like this this is reallygreat and everything.
But you know, I again, as a I'ma very rational person, I'm an
engineer I'm still trying tounderstand this whole time, no
time thing and what spirit knowsabout the future.
But, like I said, on thatparticular day it was crazy
because, also, I'll tell this alittle bit more of the story
(38:59):
it's just that whole experiencebeing at the conference, 900
parents who had lost childrenthere was all kinds of crazy
stuff going on that whole weekwith everybody, and Suzanne
Giesman, in the closing, talkedabout this whole story about a
butterfly and then involved abutterfly and finally clip and
everything.
Well, as I was on the planeright before I listened to your
reading, my alarm goes off on myring door monitor that there's
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a motion detector at your frontdoor and there was a butterfly
flying around my camera whichset off the camera and that had
never happened before or since.
And then I got that experiencewith you.
So it was one of those reallycrazy days that I'll never
forget.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Right, and didn't she bring through because it's
interesting?
Before, I mean before coming on, I have a butterfly on my desk
from a daughter that I read for,and so I have this butterfly
here and I started gettingchills when I looked at the
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butterfly just before I signedon.
So I feel that the butterflyshe must have brought you, the
butterfly in the reading for youto experience that, because
they can bring such intricatedetails in a spiritual reading
to set you up.
And I always say stay openbecause whatever's coming in, if
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it seems random, it's not goingto be random for you, right.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
Right, and then that's why I want to.
That's a great point, becausewhen you're getting ready for
meetings, sometimes people sayyes, no, or this doesn't make
any sense to me, and I've hearda lot of meetings that will just
set that aside for later, andthen it's usually within a few
weeks, but in this case it wasover a year.
And then for the event tohappen that triggered me to
listen to it while I was on theplane, because that was totally
(40:46):
crazy too, because there'selectronic glitch with my, I
couldn't get to the internet.
I want to ask you about youtalked about rock and roll
heaven.
I know you've connected withsome, some famous people in the
afterlife.
Do you think you have a uniqueability to do that, or why do
you think you've had those typesof connections?
Speaker 2 (41:06):
Well, I feel it was just orchestrated that way.
When I had my spiritualawakening, the first entertainer
that came through was JeffHealy and he kept playing the
song when I was sleeping and Ididn't know him that much here I
love the 80s.
I grew up in the 80s.
(41:26):
So I mean, yeah, love music.
And so he came first.
And then the next day I get inmy car and he just come to me in
my dream state Singing a songand I turn on my car and at the
turnkey that song is playing.
So he set me up with thesynchronistic event and
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validation that, yes, it was meand spirit does this all the
time.
So Then I started getting moreentertainers of Davey Jones.
I grew up with the monkeys,after school watching them.
He woke me up with the song andI could hear his voice and it
was very, very, very strong.
So they just started coming tome.
(42:09):
My grandmother brought meWhitney Houston in meditation.
My father brought me Elvis inmeditation, my father's spirit,
and so it was really, I'll say,whitney.
That was the first entertainerthat I mean came to me for
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months and months and months andmonths until she asked me to
make a call and gave me aspecific name of someone that
she wanted me to call andMessage for.
Well, when I called her, thatspecific someone at this company
answered the phone and I saidto her I Don't know how to tell
(42:53):
you this, but Whitney's beencoming to me and I'm, and she
said this and this and this andthis, and this woman goes, oh my
god.
So she worked with Whitney shegoes.
I came into the office and outof nowhere was her international
tour fan Giveaway, right on myseat no one knows where it came
(43:16):
from, from 1991, and so Whitneywas setting her up for a
spiritual experience, letting meout for a spiritual experience
because she answered the phoneand Then it happened to be an
assistant to someone who workedwith Whitney in her, in her
(43:37):
career.
Whitney wanted to give thatperson a very strong message, so
she orchestrated that wholething.
She'd been coming to me formonths and months and months,
playing her music everywhere, inmy sleep, waking up and
meditation.
There's one day I went intothree stores in Florida and her
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music was on in every singlestore and so I didn't know she
had a connection to DunkinDonuts.
But I was driving to Michiganone day and she was coming to me
and I pulled over to get acoffee and I walked into Dunkin
Donuts and her music was playingat Dunkin Donuts.
So she was just.
She continued to set me up withthese Synchronicities, signs
and validations for me toconnect with her loved one here
(44:23):
and I gave I gave them a readingfrom her.
Okay and so I'm Prince to thesame thing.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
So specific.
They come to you with specificmessages for people typically
yes.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
Yeah, but they're also coming through To also
develop spiritually because theyhave to learn how to connect
when they get into the afterlifein the heavens.
They have to learn how to comereally close and just someone's
aura To give these veryevidential, specific messages.
You really have to blend withthe spiritual medium, I feel in
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my experience, and so they weredeveloping too.
I mean one thing that PrinceSaid when he came to me this is
my kitchen downstairs on the dayof his passing he, he, he said.
He said to me I hear you're amaster and I want to learn.
I want to learn.
I mean he did say that to me andI went to the meditation and
(45:20):
there he was in meditation onthis balcony with this purple
galaxy around him and Whitneywas with him, and so it just
started.
He started coming to me On aregular basis.
I always tell this to.
He was incredible aboutbringing the signs Incredible.
(45:40):
Everywhere I went, there wasPrince, prince on a menu, my
nail polish.
I was in jury duty and I gotout of jury duty and I was
walking down the sidewalk I'mlike who helped me here?
And then all the sunlight camedown and in the sidewalk Someone
wrote Prince hmm, right in thesidewalk.
So it's like they were Tellingme that we're here to stay, we,
(46:09):
we want your help, we need yourhelp and I, I always say I Give
it back to spirit and I sayyou've got to do the work, I
will show up.
I will show up and give thespiritual reading, but you have
to do the work.
So that was early on well, 2016, 1416 but then I started doing
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a lot of the events.
The entertainers would comethrough for someone in the
audience at the live event, sothat started happening too in
the last five years.
So you would ask if it's unique.
My father was an entertainer.
He's in spirit, so I reallyfeel that, and he was connected
(46:54):
To some people in Hollywood.
Well, so I feel that.
But that connection is just sonatural.
It's just something that's justnatural for me.
I mean growing up and thenElvis.
I mean when Elvis came, thatwas an incredible part of my
journey Because he alsoconnected me, so and it was just
(47:20):
very natural Rock with Elvis myentire life.
Speaker 1 (47:24):
So well, it makes sense.
You have that affinity of thatconnection to the musicians,
soul and Loving music, so itmakes sense that you know you
would be able, they would beable, to blend with you, maybe
easier than someone that doesn'thave that connection.
And you said something reallyimportant, I think, about you
know them having to learn tocommunicate because sometimes
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people, when our loved ones pass, so why don't I get the type of
sign other people get, whydon't I get that connection?
And I think sometimes it's theperson on the other side has to
learn to do these things.
Speaker 2 (47:55):
They do have to learn and I've had like loved ones
coming through and saying I'mjust learning this how?
And I would say, okay, stepcloser.
I always tell them come closer,it's okay, come closer, come
closer, blend, blend with my orblend with me.
Speaker 1 (48:12):
It's okay.
Speaker 2 (48:13):
So I mean it's funny that the kids Are so good at it,
they're so good.
It's just like blending, wherepeople that are older just tend
to stay, like you know here.
So I'm always helping, lovingsome spirit to I mean connect
and come closer or todifferently, like they don't
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understand that.
Can you bring it differently?
Just about a week or so ago Iwas reading for this woman.
She was from South Africa andin South Africa and her loved
ones were coming through and Iwas, and it was like two or
three at a time and I wasinviting just one at a time so
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the messages don't get likemumbled.
Well, I said I know your mom, Iknow she's trying to bring a
name because I keep seeing, I'mstarting to hear the name, but
I'm inviting her to come closer.
And she had just passed and sheactually Showed me something to
say her name and so theybrought their names and she
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showed like a mala and I said myand she goes, that's her name.
And so what I want to say aboutthis is that they were involved
in her spiritual awakeningbecause right after her
spiritual reading, within 24hours, to license plate showed
up with names.
Her grandfather was named Ajee.
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That was on a license plate,and so they brought that, and if
the signs show up within a day,I always send them To the one
that I read for, just so we'llunderstand that their loved ones
are doing this.
They're opening you up more tofeel their love, heal and
spiritually develop, and so Ithought it was amazing.
(50:05):
I thought it was just soamazing.
That always Amazes me when theybring the signs right away,
right with the spiritual reading.
It's it's amazing.
It's just what you to understandthat that did happen.
And now this is happening andit's validating right there and
with you, and we're still withyou.
Speaker 1 (50:26):
Yeah, that's.
The really cool thing is thevalidations.
You know when you, when you doget that because we we tend to
talk ourselves out of things alot of times people are like,
well, maybe that wasn't reallyreal, maybe that was a guess,
but spirit, I found you're righta lot of times that will back
it up with validations that arepretty much undeniable if you
keep your eyes open.
Speaker 2 (50:46):
Yes, and I do say you know you can receive signs
every day, just asking for asign in your heart and feel love
.
It's all about the feeling.
Spirit really responds to thefeelings that you're holding
within your, within your spirit,within your heart.
They respond to that.
So I teach to hold the place oflove in your heart and Ask them
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to bring you a sign.
They get to choose the sign.
There's only like one time inmy teaching, so it's teaching.
And this woman in my classshared that her mom has breast
cancer and she they had foundsomething in her mammogram and
she said to her mom in spirit,she said, mom, if I meant to
(51:32):
have surgery, I want you tobring a bird in my house the
next day, so tomorrow.
Okay and this bird shows up inmy house.
I will have a surgery.
The next day.
Through her fireplace, a birdflew out into her house.
Speaker 1 (51:55):
Oh, wow.
Speaker 2 (51:56):
That is the only time , because I always say don't
choose the sign for spirit,let's spirit bring the sign that
they want.
So there's no block here right.
Just you know and you just bean observation daily for it.
Well, that was the.
That was the only time that Iheard something like that, but
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she was in high need.
She's I need.
Her mom passed a breast cancer.
They found something, and soshe needed to know, without a
shadow of a doubt, what her nextcan't deny that.
Speaker 1 (52:29):
But yeah, you know it's, it's interesting because
we do Tend to say, okay, well,there's, there's general rules,
right, but then also spiritcould do amazing things too,
when necessary.
I think think was Suzannegeeseman that told a story.
She was like asking forassignments and she asked for
something crazy like a pinkelephant, and then she was
driving by I think it was a cardealership and she looked up and
there was like a big pinkelephant in the lot.
(52:50):
So it's, it's sometimes fun toknow, maybe test it like that.
I tend to be more, like youknow, I don't want to really ask
for too much or not spring foranything specific, but I get
crazy signs and a lot of timesit'll be on special days.
On my birthday this year, youknow, I got a sign from Shane
and so so it's, it's fine, likeI like what you said about don't
(53:14):
try to be too specific.
But it's also pretty cool when,when spirit really surprises us
to yes, it's, that part isamazing and I am.
Speaker 2 (53:24):
I'm pretty uplifted on regular basis with science.
I'm just like everybody else,I'm just like that's from my
grandma, that's from my uncle orit does blow me away and I do
feel just so much love andhealing when it happens.
It's almost like everything isplanned, everything is on your
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timeline, it's all planned.
And one of the first, I'll say,divine messages that came in in
my spiritual awakening Was it'sin the wonder that the
miraculous happens, and that wasgiven to me early on, and so
every day I would just be inwonder, wonder what spirits
(54:09):
going to bring.
And I still am like thatwhenever I get a lot of signs in
my car, when I'm driving, a Lotof them, and so I'm always in
wonder when I get in my car,who's going to be connecting
with me and spirit.
And it happens every time I getin the car, every time I travel
.
(54:29):
We were just away a couple daysago and I just went to Priscilla
Presley show.
She was in town over a week orso ago and I went out to see her
show and First restaurant we goin and sit down.
There's a cardboard copy ofElvis, six feet tall, right in
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front of us Up on the wall aswe're eating dinner, and then I
walk into this art gallery andall shook up his plane and he
plays that song for me all thetime when, when he connects.
In meditation that specific songis is played.
And then I go into thisbookstore and I see this book in
(55:14):
the spirituality section calledall that Elvis.
Speaker 1 (55:17):
Hmm.
Speaker 2 (55:18):
So one, two, three Signs just a validation of, of
that connection.
So it's not just our loved onesthat can bring us these
spiritual signs, it's who's onour spiritual dream team.
Speaker 1 (55:35):
I say who's working with us.
Right.
Speaker 2 (55:40):
On our destiny and our spiritual path forward, and
so you, you can find that thatout if you hold this place of
who's with me, who's workingalongside me.
We all have a spiritual dreamteam helping us on this path
(56:00):
forward, and so I always askwho's with me today?
And then I see a sign.
Speaker 1 (56:07):
Yeah, absolutely, that's awesome.
So I want to ask you obviously,meditation you believe is
important, it was important toyour opening up and you've
released this, this album ofmeditation.
So tell me about that and howit can help people.
Speaker 2 (56:20):
So guiding meditations to awaken to spirit
are meditations that came infrom me during my my awakening,
that I received in meditation.
They were sort of downloadedand so there are six meditations
on the album and then the songAmazing Grace, which my niece is
(56:43):
a singer songwriter out ofAustin, texas, and she sings on
the album Amazing Grace and it'sa beautiful angelic version,
and so they're all guidedmeditations.
One's an angel meditation tomeet your guardian angel.
Another one is called Oneness,where you specially journey to
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sacred spaces to connect withyour loved ones and spirit.
What was amazing is I taughtthis meditation workshop at the
conference that we saw eachother at last August and parents
came up and said that theyexperienced that their child and
spirit for the first time,which is what it's, what it's
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all about, and I say it's in thebelieving that we receive.
So, going into the meditation,feeling peace, love I mean peace
and love and being in a stateof allowing yourself to
experience this love and thishealing, because it can be quite
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powerful, and spirit in a way,kind of waits for us to be in
that meditative state for themto connect with us.
A lot of people experiencedtheir loved ones and spirit when
they're on vacation, becausethey're in a place of presence.
They're in a place of lettinggo, of allowing, of feeling
(58:12):
peace, and so their loved onescan come so close.
When we're in this place ofpeace, love and joy, those are
the higher vibrations in theheavens and the afterlife.
When we can get there, that'swhen they can get there with us
and that's where medium comes in.
We're raising our vibrations,they're learning there's a
little bit in order to connectand communicate, and that's what
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medium means and that's whatwe're doing in meditation.
What does medium mean for me?
What does that mean, that word,what kind of meaning does it
mean for me?
And I was shown me on this bigwhite slate Me plus D, I, u, m,
(58:57):
and under D was a divineintelligence uplifting me.
It was shown in meditation.
And so I feel that if we'redoing our inner work to be in a
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place of peace, spirit is goingto very much develop us on a
daily basis.
I do feel centering, meditation, contemplation and reflection,
just getting out of the brainand just dropping those 18
(59:42):
inches into the heart, thespiritual center, and being
there a little bit every day, isreally going to help with the
connection, with the spiritualconnection, because it can
happen like that.
Speaker 1 (59:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (59:56):
So quickly yes.
Speaker 1 (59:58):
Well, as you said, we all, we all are spirit, but
then we are also in the body.
We've got the brain, we've gotall the brain on.
When you said people connect,you said on vacation.
I thought you were going to saywhen we're sleeping, because a
lot of times that in the dreamstate which you said kind of
sounds like it started with youand in that for me it's that in
between state it's like thatfour or five o'clock in the
(01:00:21):
morning when you just startingto wake up, and I've heard a lot
of different theories it'sabout why it is in the middle of
the night, but for a lot of usit seems to be that middle of
the night state.
Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
Well, right after deep REM sleep there is a
meditative state or wakefulness,and that is when spirit can
connect.
Mostly is right in thatmeditative state they can come
in and they usually, you know,show themselves very, very
healthy.
But there's so much more thatyou can experience when that
(01:00:52):
happens by communicatingyourself.
I mean it's all actuallytelepathic when they connect
with you spiritually, that youcan communicate with them and
communicate and ask questionsand receive, and there's so much
more.
So I I invite people, when youare experiencing spirit in your
(01:01:14):
dream state, to just get closeand communicate and so much can
be, I'll say, given in thosespiritual experiences in the
dream state.
You can experience so much likejust that in between, when
(01:01:37):
you're spiritually journey, whenyour spirit is on like a
journey there, there's so muchyou can experience and there's
no space and time in theafterlife.
So it can feel like when you'reexperiencing that with your
loved ones and spirit, it canfeel like a whole night and it's
(01:01:58):
just that little place.
Yeah yeah, that that amazes me.
That part of it Just for me,soul journey, and I'm joining in
your spirit that part.
There's so much more I want tolearn and research about that.
(01:02:20):
Some people call it, you know,out of body experiences your
soul's traveling or journey.
It's happened to me a lot andsometimes I feel like I've been
on vacation with a loved oneJust in that short period of
(01:02:40):
time.
It feels like I've been gonefor a while and then I wake up
and I can't move.
So my body is like completelynumb and then it wakes up.
So I don't know people.
I know people have experiencedit.
I experienced it often.
(01:03:02):
There's so much more I want tolearn.
There's infinite, I think,wisdom around spirituality.
It's been written about, youknow, through the centuries.
There's so much I want to learnabout that part.
Speaker 1 (01:03:17):
Yeah, and I know people that do astral travel,
out of body travel, and I'veheard it described kind of the
way you're describing it people,you know there's different
feelings with their bodies whenthey come back in and stuff like
that.
So there is, there's so much,so much to learn, so much to
experience, you know, whilewe're here, and I'm glad that
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you're allowing people tounderstand this.
So I know you have yourmeditation album and I know you
do medium readings.
What other things do you offer?
Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
So I do live events and I think our next one is
going to be in Detroit in thefall.
We haven't gotten the date orvenue yet, but spirits very
strong with me up there there'sjust there's a lot happening and
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they come in very quickly andstrong and they're very
entertaining to for the audience.
Just the love and the healingthat comes through in live
events is pretty amazing andspirits very strong extremely
strong, so I also I also teachonline classes.
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I have a three level programawakening aligned in it
awakening, attuned and alignedand we're just finishing up with
two of my groups so we may beopening it up again in the fall.
So my program is calledawakening.
It's a six month program whereyou learn about the gift of
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spirit, spiritual signs, yourspiritual guides, meditation,
and then it goes on to attunefor you to more with with spirit
, and there's a lot ofapplication.
A lot of people that I'veworked with.
I've been teaching online since2016.
A lot of people have gone onand developed as as a spiritual
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medium and so forth, or as achannel.
So those are the things I alsoteach meditation workshops
online and in person, and speakand speak.
Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
So let people know where they can find you.
Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
So, actually, first I want to talk about guided
meditations to awaken to spirit.
Absolutely, it is on Amazon andiTunes.
Can we download it?
There's a free meditation heartopening.
It's called on the album.
There's a free gift on mywebsite and you can go to
actually us call it up to you.
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C H I N G, the number one Mhearts, so touching one M,
heartscom.
And I always tell this storyhow this name came about.
I was at a conference and I wasin a build this business,
building workshop and for yourspiritual business, and for some
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reason the teacher put me inthe middle of the room and she
said everyone gather around soshe could receive something
around her business.
And that's what came intouching one million hearts.
So spirit, it's spirit given.
Speaker 1 (01:06:39):
Yeah, that's awesome and I'll put that in the show
notes, but I always like to getit on the on the recording, so
people can actually hear it aswell.
Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
Yes, yeah.
So I love meditation.
I mean, I have a dream to haveevents where people have
spiritual awakening.
That's what happened to me andI feel that that is that is a
dream of mine to have large, bigevents with meditation for
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people to experience the lovefrom spirit and healing from
spirit.
I've heard that before.
I think that's the first timeI'm sharing that.
Speaker 1 (01:07:18):
I'm looking forward to seeing that happen.
Stacy, it's been a pleasurehaving you today.
Thank you for sharing your yourexperience with your wisdom,
and I appreciate it very much.
Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
Well, thank you for having me.
It's been wonderful, it's greatto connect with you.
I see your beard, yourbeautiful daughter, right right
behind you there.
She is a shiny light, shinylight.
Speaker 1 (01:07:43):
She's with me.
All right, rest your day.
Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
Okay, you too.
Thank you, Brian Bye.
Thank you.
Hey everybody, this is Brian, back with another
episode of Grief to Growth, andtoday I've got with me Stacy
Lynn Cripps.
I'm really excited about havingStacy here.
She and I have met a couple oftimes before and she is a
fantastic, gifted individual.
She's devoted her life tohelping others discover the
spiritual within and to findsolace through connection with
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those not longer on this planeof existence.
She is a highly respectedevidential medium a spiritual
medium or evidential medium, Ishould say.
She's a mentor and she's anadvisor of the gift of the
spirit.
Now I'll ask you what thatmeans.
Two years ago I was fortunateenough to have a personal test
reading with Stacy for a programthat Stacy was applying for,
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and it was an incredibleexperience.
I'll tell you that story lateron, how it unfolded over the
last couple of years, but itreally left a mark on me, the
reading I had with her, and Ican't wait for her to share her
insights with everyone.
She's been gifted with a divineheavenly connection.
She brings comfort and healingthrough heartfelt spiritual
communication.
She's worked with many grievingfamilies through St Jude and
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helping parents heal, and thatilluminates the powerful idea
that our loved ones are trulynever far away from us and she
offers guidance of love throughspiritual science and
synchronicities.
She's completed a divinelyguided meditation album called
Guided Meditations to Awaken theSpirit.
That's now out on Amazon, appleand iTunes Music.
We'll talk about that as well.
In addition to her spiritualwork, she's an organizer and
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trailblazer founder of Chicago'sFirst Grief and Healing
Conference through a newconference and organizing the
Love Force Breakthrough events,where she set the stage with
James Redfield, the number oneNew York Times bestselling
author of the Celestine ProphecySeries.
She's been extensive mediaappearances from local radio
shows like W G N's Radio, daneNeal W G N's Radio is Dane Neal,
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I should say and the Bill andWendy's show.
She's also connected with somepretty impressive celebrities in
the afterlife, such as PrinceWhitney Houston, elvis Presley
and many more.
So with that I want to welcomeStacy Lynn Cripps.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Oh, thank you, Brian.
So honored to be with you andbe on your show.
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Yeah, I'm really interested in having you here.
You and I met, as I said, acouple of years ago I think it
was April of 2021.
You didn't know who I was.
I had heard about you, but Iknow a lot about you and you
gave me an incredible readingthat I want to talk about as we
get into it.
Before we get started with that, I was like to ask people how
did you get started on yourspiritual journey?
How did you discover your gifts?
Speaker 2 (02:33):
So evidentially I mean evidentially or I had this
gift growing up and I was notaware of it when I was born I
wasn't supposed to live but acouple hours and they always
called me special growing up andgifted.
Growing up I really didn'tunderstand it.
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I had an all knowingness or aninner knowingness throughout my
life about things, about people,and so I just remember I had
adults speaking to me when I wasyounger and asking me questions
and things like that.
My parents would have them meetwith me or ask me a question or
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something which I am recallingnow and I really never
understood it.
Until 1995, my best childhoodfriend, heather, was on her way
home from college and she waskilled in a car accident.
And we had grown up my entirelife since we were four and
eight years old and my grief wasa trauma state.
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So I just spoken to her on thephone just probably two weeks
before and I just was, you know,in my early twenties and I just
experienced trauma.
I just went numb, I couldn'treally process anything.
And I just remember after herfuneral I woke up in the middle
of the night and I was cryingand I was going to her house in
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a dream and knocking on the doorand she wasn't there and I
asked God to help me.
I said, please help me, I can'treally go on.
It's been that time I believeit probably been six months to a
year and I fall back asleep.
And she came to me in a dreamunder an oak tree and she just
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began speaking to me and I couldfeel her essence and her love.
I could see her in my dreamstate and we sat under this oak
tree and we talked for multiplenights and she gave me evidence
of what happened to her in hercar accident that a woman pulled
over the car and was holdingher before she passed, and so
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she wasn't alone when she passed.
She also had a lot of angelsaround her.
When she would come to me in mydream state, so I just would
wake up in the morning and Ijust felt complete love.
And when we were young we usedto hang out under this like
berry tree for hours and hoursin the summertime and just talk.
So it's very synchronistic.
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And she gave me to me one daywalking into a grocery store
shortly after the drains and myear was ringing and I heard her
voice and she said call my momtonight and tell her what I've
been telling you about theaccident.
I need you to call her tonight.
And I could hear her voice loudand clear and I got chills
everywhere and I was with myfiance or husband he's my
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husband now and he said justcall her mom, she's coming to
you, call her mom.
And so I called her mom thatnight and I told her that
Heather's been coming to me andshe's always with angels.
She told me that Heathercollected angels.
A year before she passed shehad an angel collection.
He also told me that when Ishared that a woman pulled over
the car and was holding herbefore she died, she said I
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didn't believe them.
I said who?
She said the EMTs on the sceneshared with me that a woman was
with Heather and holding herbefore she passed.
And I haven't been able to go onwith my life knowing that she
was alone, which were neveralone.
And that was my first spiritualexperience in 1995.
And then, after my loved onesbegan passing my grandmother and
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my grandfather and my uncle.
They would come to me on theday of their passing and I would
feel them in my dream state andsee them and speak to them and
receive healing from spirit.
And it just happened over andover again until 2011.
And in 2011, I went to aconference in New York to see a
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lot of spiritual authors and Iwas in an executive coaching
program because I'm an executivecoach and spiritual coach, and
I was hearing about theseauthors and I went to see them
and we were taken throughmeditation at the start of the
conference to Amazing Grace,with Dr Wayne Dyer on the stage
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and first time meditating to aguided meditation, and I was
opened up to see, feel and hearspirit, my wakeful state, and I
heard everyone.
I saw everyone when I wasmeditating to Amazing Grace and
when I came out of thatmeditation I saw in hologram
form my grandmother and mygrandfather and my uncle up on
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the stage next to this beautifulvase of flowers and my
grandmother spoke to me and shesaid would loving you still and
we're guiding you still.
And I was crying like justsobbing like the whole time.
And then another speaker,another speaker, came on the
stage and we went throughanother meditation and I met my
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guardian angel, who was with mein a car accident back in 1997.
I was in a car accident and Iwas paralyzed from here down for
like eight hours and a manjumped in my car and my husband
got out of the car and he was aFilipino man and he said you're
okay, breathe, just breathe, youneed to breathe.
He said wiggle your toes, youare not paralyzed, I'm a doctor.
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Well, I thought that.
I thought that doctor was real.
I thought it was real andthere's a number of accidents
that happened on like shoredrive in Chicago and this
happened.
We were one of them.
We were hit from behind and myhusband never saw him, but I
thought he pulled over the carand got in the car with me as a
doctor and told me I wasn'tparalyzed.
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Well, when I had this angelmeditation next, this man came
to me and he said my name isRenee, I am a doctor and we've
met.
And when I came out of themeditation, I was just full of
chills and tinkling and thespeaker said okay, now ask the
person who's sitting right herewhat their name is.
And I turned to her and I saidwhat's your name?
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And she said my name is.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Renee.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
So that I had a spirit awakening.
That was September 17th in 2011.
I was having them all day longat this conference was a Hay
House conference, and I just wasin a state of bliss and
wholeness and oneness for abouttwo weeks.
I came home from New York andthere was a rainbow over my home
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when I pulled in the driveway.
So the spiritual experiencescontinued.
For weeks I had angels with me.
I heard angel hymns on a regularbasis when I was awake and when
I was sleeping I was speakingin a way that was not my
language.
When I would answer questionsand speak with people, the words
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thou and shall and things likethat were coming out of my mouth
.
My husband was saying do youknow what you just said?
And I said no, what did I say?
You said I don't know, but youjust said thou and shall and
forth for thou.
And I just had these angelswith me and I was filled with
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unconditional love, full ofunconditional love.
And it was next it was.
I can't even relive what Iexperienced because it was so
phenomenal.
I was just completely opened tosee, feel and hear spirit from
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that moment forward, not just inmy dream state, but now in my
wakeful state.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Okay.
So you said see, hear and feel.
So you see spirit as well.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Yes, yes, I saw spirit objectively for a couple
of years.
That means with my eyes open,and I came to a point where I
just asked God to close thatbecause it was too startling for
me.
I'd be in a workshop andthere'd be a man at the table
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across from me and I saw hiswife deceased wife and I and she
was standing right there andshe was looking at me and
talking to me and I would justget startled.
But she wanted me to give him amessage from him, and so I did
a break, walk over to him andsay I just want to share with
you that this woman.
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I saw her standing with you.
She had on a denim skirt and awhite shirt and she made me feel
like she was your wife and themessages she wants you to get
back to your music.
And he was, you know, cryingand shaking open up his wallet,
showed me her and the exact sameoutfit and said I'm a country
music singer and my wife passedaway a few years ago of, I think
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, ovarian cancer, and I haven'tgotten back to my music since
then, and so that was verypowerful message for him.
But after that it was happeningso often that I just said, okay
, only when I'm, only when I'mworking.
It's too much, it's a lot ofenergy and it's I mean yeah, I
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mean I'd be getting my nailsdone and it would be happening
around me.
And so now I just see spirit inmy inner vision when I give
spiritual readings.
But I see feeling here.
I can also smile things ortaste things.
They also come very close andgive me physical sensations in
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my body as to what happened tothem, that they passed.
So it's very, very evidential.
But when God opened me up, itwas very much to get on this
path and I held back a coupleyears.
I held back about three years.
I only did it privately,through word of mouth, because I
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had a recruiting business.
I was a recruiter for 18 yearsand I had an executive coaching
business and things were boomingin my business and I kept
feeling what are people going tothink?
What are people?
What's happening?
I really found out about whatthis was.
The spiritual gift that it waswas about 10 months later.
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I really didn't realize that Iwas having a spiritual awakening
.
I thought it was just my lovedones coming to heal my heart,
which is what it is as well,heal my grief.
But I really didn't realizeuntil I met a man by the name of
James Von Bragg who told methat I was a medium and I didn't
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even know what medium meant ormedium was at the time and I
just said, no, I'm not, I'm acoach.
So I went through.
It's amazing when you experiencethings like this, the teachers
show up right away to help guideyou and to help teach you.
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I had a number of spiritualguides show up during my
spiritual awakening in mymeditations because, after I
experienced my grandmother andgrandfather and my uncle, I was
meditating every single day andall my loved ones were coming to
me and I was crying and healing, and healing just on a daily
basis.
It was incredible and I wasreceiving quite a bit of
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evidence too.
Spirit was developing me.
So my friend Heather and mygrandparents they were all
developing me on a daily basisand I would share things with my
family and they'd say how doyou know that?
I said, well, grandma told me,so I would just.
I mean they would tell methings that I wouldn't have
known.
I mean growing, and so that'show it worked.
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I was in meditation.
I've been meditating for 11years now, going on 12 years,
and Spirit would take me throughjourneys in my meditations
where I'd be on a beach, or I'dbe on the top of a mountain, or
I'd be under this oak tree, or,and so I started to journey in
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meditation, which?
Speaker 1 (14:58):
I'm curious because I've seen, looking at your
website and talking to you alittle bit, you use language
that makes me wonder about yourreligious background.
You talk about spirit, you talkabout God, so tell me more
about, about your religious.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
So I am Christian and Catholic.
So I grew up Christian in theBible Belt in Wheaton Illinois
and I met Billy Graham and I Igrew up going to private
Christian schools and so God wasalways a forefront in my life
in Jesus, and so I always knewmy entire life that God was
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there and I had a strong faithand I had a very chaotic
childhood.
So my father was not in histruth and he was just not honest
and he did take money frompeople.
He was a bit of a con man andhe was wanted by the FBI by the
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time I was 16, 17 years old.
So I grew up in that type ofenvironment where I knew from a
very young age that my fatherwas not not living his truth,
not in his truth, and so I wasalways kind of tuning in because
he was unpredictable in a wayand so and here we are going to
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Christian schools and privateschools and my faith is very
strong, but I'm definitely in anenvironment growing up that is
not resembling resembling thatfaith that makes any sense.
It was very much like a dualtype, not measuring up, but when
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I was going to school I couldfeel.
I could feel that I wasprotected my entire life, so my
father was abusive and I justknew I was protected on some
level.
But as I grew up, I we had torecite Bible verses in front of
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the class every week, and so Iwas very familiar with that too.
And then, before I married myhusband, I became Catholic.
My grandparents also becameCatholic later in life, and I
would go to this charismaticchurch in Michigan with my
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grandparents when I was like atween, like a teeny bopper young
, and I saw hands of healingthere.
I saw hands of healing and itwas just, it just felt very
spiritual very healing when Iwas there.
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So after I had my awakening, Ineeded to understand this
biblically.
So I was guided to go underspiritual direction.
So a spiritual director I hadfor about a year who helped me
understand that I was havingspiritual experiences and I was
experiencing spiritual gifts.
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And that's how it, how Iunderstood it, that I've been
given a spiritual gift andunderstanding that spirit is our
birthright.
We're spirit in the body firstand foremost.
That's biblical and we all havethis connection.
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We all have it.
We're all mediums and channelsand instruments of that presence
within us, and so we all havethis gift and meditation is very
much, and some of us are justreally developed, more so than
others because of how we grew up, because of always tuning in,
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which is what I was doing myentire life, or just having
these spiritual awakenings.
You know I signed up for this.
Evidentially I was brought hereto be a spiritual teacher and
spiritual medium and mentor.
Little did I know because Iknew nothing about this.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
So the spiritual director you mentioned was that
in the Catholic church.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Yes, so it was through San Francisco Ministries
here in the Chicago area and Iwould just meet with her weekly.
I was having so many spiritualexperiences around that time,
synchronicities and signs,everything was just coming in on
a daily basis and so, sharingall of this, and then when the
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families came from St JudeHospital, I was still very much
in the closet, if you will, fora couple years when I read for
the first child in spirit aroundthe day of her passing.
It was a friend of mine'sneighbor in another town and
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this little girl came throughfor an hour and eight minutes
and blew everyone away.
She was incredibly.
I'd chill all over.
She was incredibly evidential.
She mentioned her grand, I meanher grandpa's name.
She brought through a name of alittle girl who was with her
from St Jude who passed threedays before.
She mentioned her name, maya.
She was just coming in with somuch evidence and that reading
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that I gave back in 2000, Ithink 13, changed my life.
Yeah, she was eight years oldwhen she passed and my son was
eight years old at the time andit just I cried for days.
I mean, she was around me, sheset up, she orchestrated her
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family calling me, it wasn't aschedule of reading, they just
called me at night and she wasaround me the entire day, this
little girl in spirit.
My phone wasn't working all daylong and because she was so
close, I did see her.
With my eyes open, the cornerof my eye, I saw her.
She said that you're going totalk to my mom tonight and
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you're going to talk to myfamily tonight.
I was like okay, and then theycalled me that night.
So that changed my life andthat's when I said okay, all
right.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
So I'm curious, because I'm really glad that you
were encouraged by the church,because, frankly, that's a
little bit surprising.
Yes, I've known several mediumsthat they call themselves
Christian and I get a lot ofpushback from the church a lot
of times and from people thatclaim to represent the church.
So have you experienced that?
Speaker 2 (22:10):
I haven't.
So I met with.
I met with our priest at thetime back in 2012 or 13.
And I said this is happening tome and it was right after her
reading this little girl'sreading.
And he said you're experiencingholy experiences.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Awesome.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
And he said that you're being called to be in
these gifts, and that's when herecommended that I have a
spiritual guide or directorthrough the Catholic ministries
to explain this to me, to helpme understand this.
I needed to understand thisbiblically just because of my
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upbringing, sure and reading theGospels, I mean the Gospel of
John.
Anybody just needs to read theGospel of John to understand
that we are given, we are spirit, and we have this connection
for healing and for love, and sowe have light, we have spirit.
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It's called so many things, somany things, but we are this
first and foremost, and sothat's what I'm here to really
teach help people understandthat this is biblical and it is
accepted in the church, and it'sall about the language.
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It's all about the language.
So there is, there's a Bibleverse in Deuteronomy that talks
about gypsies and mediums thatdo not follow God.
Well, that is not.
That is very general, and amedium is also called the
channel, a prophet.
I do receive divineintelligence, I do have divine
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spiritual guides, and so it is.
It is a spiritual gift, it'sthe gift of healing.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
I completely agree with you.
I think it is about thelanguage you know and people
will use they'll.
I was talking with a SanFrancisco priest I believe he is
but he actually escorts peoplein the other life that get kind
of stuck in between and helpsmove them along.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Oh yes.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
And we were talking about this stuff and I was like
well, basically, you know,you're a medium.
And he said, well, no, we can'tuse that word.
I don't want to get in troublebecause I still want to remain a
priest, and so I, but it's.
It's also important, and I'mglad that you're doing this,
because for some of us I grew upin the church as well, and a
lot of people that are the groupof the church they're just not
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ready to throw everything out,and so when someone in church
tells me you have to choose thisor this, it's nice to know that
what we're experiencing isbiblical, that it doesn't go
against what the Bible says.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Yes, I mean, these are the gifts of the spirit.
This is, these are spiritualgifts and you know, I really
believe God raises the veil.
God raised the veil for me.
I mean that day so I could seemy grandparents and my uncle
right there and hear from mygrandmother, who was very close
to growing up and stayed withthem many, many, many summers.
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So I needed that healing and Ireally feel that we are put on
this path at some point toexperience the God within Really
.
This is spirit flowing throughus.
Spirit flows through me inspiritual readings and they're
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orchestrating this.
They are doing this.
They are doing it.
I mean, I say to everyone thatspirit orchestrates the time of
your reading.
They orchestrate them bindingme, they orchestrate who's
coming through and what they'rebringing.
So a lot of people feel that,oh, it's coming from you.
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No, it's not coming from me,it's coming from spirit.
I'm just open to see, feel andhear.
But everything that they'rebringing they are bringing to
touch your heart, to awaken youA spiritual opens you up more to
feel their love and receivethem.
Sometimes it awakens themcompletely to actually have this
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themselves, which I wish foreveryone.
So I mean, I do feel thatthere's so many books that are
written about awakeningconsciousness, christ
consciousness, right the giftsof the spirit.
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I mean the indwelling, which iswhat it is Really.
So when we awaken to our spiritwithin, we can receive.
And when I had my awakening, Ikept seeing my three-year-old
self in my mind's eye.
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When I experienced that in 2011, I kept seeing her.
She'd appear in my dreams,she'd come to me.
So I started feeling my trueself.
At three years old, I startedfeeling my or higher self or
come back to me, and I have ameditation on my album about
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that, about your inner child andconnecting with your inner
child, which is who you trulyare.
And so that also happened in myspiritual awakening and it
healed me too.
So, after all this pain andgrief in my life, I returned to
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who I truly am throughout thatspiritual awakening time and I
felt myself more gentle, lighter, less anxious I had.
I will say that the divine givesyou energy, gives you healing
energy, and I have experiencedthis in my work, where I may not
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feel well or I have laryngitisand I'm about to do a live event
, and I go up there and I openup to spirit within my heart and
the laryngitis disappears andthen, when I'm done with the
event and I start grounding, thelaryngitis comes back.
It is amazing how we canreceive what we need on this
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journey and it doesn't matterwhat we're really experiencing.
I've done events where I meanmy dog just passed away and so
I'm just filled with grief andI've been sad for three days
crying, and then I go intospirit and all that's gone.
As I'm reading so I know thatwe can receive beautiful,
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healing, divine presence, energyfor what's on our spiritual
journey.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
I know that you've read for quite a few parents
because you're associated withthe Holy Parents, heal and St
Jude's, and what's what's thatbeen?
What's it like to connect witha child?
For a parent, what does thatfeel like for you?
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Well, I love children , so I just I've always had a
beautiful connection to childrenmy entire life, so just helping
with my nieces and nephews andthings like that growing up.
So for me I want them, thechildren in spirit, to come as
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close as they can to bring thishealing and this love.
So I feel I may open up alittle deeper than usual and
with that they really knock itout of the park for their
families and let them know thatthey're very alive in spirit and
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they're very much with them andloving and guiding them on a
daily basis.
So I just feel like attracts,like so I learned this a while
ago Every spiritual medium isvery unique and it's because
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they are who they are.
They're just uniquely threaded.
I mean for me, I mean I lovechildren, I love being around
them, I love, I love my, mynieces, and I mean I was so and
so I just I love being aroundthem, and so even even babies I
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mean.
So I'm just that, I'm just thatperson, and so I feel that that
also is part of it, becausethere's such a comfort level
there with that connection.
It's very aligned.
And so also, with me growing up, I grew up with a lot of music
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my entire life, and so I playguitar and I sang a little bit.
My dad was an Elvis impersonatorsinger, so I mean I grew up
with that my whole life, whichis why I have a strong
connection to rock and rollheaven, because music was
playing in my home every day andmy dad would sing on the
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weekends in the house, and so itwas just always just part of my
life growing up.
And so I'm very tuned andaligned with with people who are
singers, songwriters, musiciansand spirit as well.
It's very strong connection andthat's why I feel too.
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I mean I can feel when it'sreally incredibly strong when
I'm giving a spiritual reading,and sometimes it's not as strong
.
That's just how it works,that's just yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Well, I'm curious about parents, those in
particular, because, excuse me,I assume that most people come
to you or in some sort of grief.
That's why they're coming, thatpeople want to connect to a
certain person, but when it's aparent and a child, you know
there's there's a lot of timejust feelings of guilt with the
parent.
This is my fault, the child'slife we feel like the child's
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life might have been cut short.
So what?
What, generally speaking, kindof messages do you get to help
the parents heal?
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Self forgiveness sometimes is one of them.
That comes through anexplanation especially children
who pass by suicide reallyexplaining what they were going
through and what was happeningwith them, with mental health,
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and for any family members too.
It's not.
A lot of people feel that theycould have done something.
They could have picked up thatphone, they could have been over
there, they could have donesomething.
And when I'll just speak interms of the children, when they
come through, they come throughon this feeling of that they
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were, they had gotten to thispoint within their being that
was so low, very, very, very low, in a way of like a depressed
state where they just wentthrough the motions and weren't
even thinking about it.
That makes any sense, so itreally.
It brings through healing,healing, and they don't want
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them.
Another another thing thathappens is that when they come
through around how they passedand how they took their lives,
it's also they don't want themto focus on that anymore.
They want them to focus on thehappy things that happen in
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their life and how they livetheir life.
They want them to focus on thatand how they help them, how the
parent help them throughouttheir life, and they're coming
through, to thank them throughthat too, and that this bond is
still there, with the spiritualconnection, that this love.
It's the love that really is thestrongest part of the
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connection, the spiritualconnection and spiritual
development that happens.
It's the love.
I want them to feel their loveand they want to make them smile
again too, like when they comethrough and they bring through
memories or something that theyjust did right before this
reading, that I was with you,and they bring that through, and
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so they want to connect withthem in a renewed place so they
can feel their love and theycould love them and then they
can love them.
So they want that love, thatlove exchange, and they also
want them to to talk to them andto be in a place of knowing
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that they're still with themspiritually, even though they
may not see them, but feel them.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Yeah, I know, when I had my reading with you and you
didn't know who I was, all youhad was my first name.
I didn't know I was going to behaving the reading with, so it
was a blind reading.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Right, right yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Yeah, and I got.
I got all that from.
I felt like Shayna was there,she cared about me, she was
still in the relationship andeverything.
And it was incredible becauseyou talked about the work that I
do and the work I would bedoing, and you had no idea who I
was or what I do, but you saidsomething.
This is why I want to sharethis story with people, because
this is pretty.
(36:18):
This is really wild.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
She said so, I said so, I said that she said.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
She said yeah, she said, but yeah, she talked about
me getting on a plane and goingto a conference and speaking, I
think, behind a podium, andeverything, and at this point I
had never done any of that.
This was in April of 2021.
And then last year in August,after you and I met at the
Helping Parents' Heal conferencea bunch of synchronicities I
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can't go into all of them, butSuzanne Geesman was involved in
it the synchronous andeverything.
But I was on the plane comingback and I usually listened to
music and my music wasn'tworking and I downloaded a bunch
of movies and they weren'tworking.
So I said I'm just going to goand listen to a medium reading
that I had, which I never do,and I had your recording with me
and I listened to it and thatcame back and I heard you say
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you're going to be on a plane,you'll be flying.
It was like this was a year anda half later and I just happened
to listen on that particularday as I was flying back.
Otherwise it really wouldn'teven occurred to me.
So I love sharing that storybecause people will say
sometimes mediums will saythings that are really general,
they're very vague.
They love you.
Well, you gave me some veryspecific information at the time
(37:27):
.
You talked about shots and Ihad been giving Shane the shots
for arthritis.
So you gave me some veryspecific information at the time
, but there's no way you couldhave known a year and a half
later I was going to be havingthis experience.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Right?
Well, she knew.
So they're in theall-knowingness and the
afterlife, so they know past,present and future what's going
to be happening.
And so what she was doing wassetting you up in a
synchronistic event, which theycan do, do experience her
fullness, her essence, her love,a gotcha moment, which they do.
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They will set you up in thisgotcha moment so, which is very
much more of an awakening.
When you experience thatsynchronistic event with your
loved one in spirit, you'rehaving more of this awakening
with them of knowing that, wow,it's just the feeling I call the
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spiritual vortex, the feelingsthat you experience when you're
in a synchronistic event withthem in spirit.
It is amazing, it very much is,and she set you up for that.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Yeah, yeah, I was.
It was at the time, you know,we did the reading.
I was like this this is reallygreat and everything.
But you know, I again, as a I'ma very rational person, I'm an
engineer I'm still trying tounderstand this whole time, no
time thing and what spirit knowsabout the future.
But, like I said, on thatparticular day it was crazy
because, also, I'll tell this alittle bit more of the story
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it's just that whole experiencebeing at the conference, 900
parents who had lost childrenthere was all kinds of crazy
stuff going on that whole weekwith everybody, and Suzanne
Giesman, in the closing, talkedabout this whole story about a
butterfly and then involved abutterfly and finally clip and
everything.
Well, as I was on the planeright before I listened to your
reading, my alarm goes off on myring door monitor that there's
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a motion detector at your frontdoor and there was a butterfly
flying around my camera whichset off the camera and that had
never happened before or since.
And then I got that experiencewith you.
So it was one of those reallycrazy days that I'll never
forget.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Right, and didn't she bring through because it's
interesting?
Before, I mean before coming on, I have a butterfly on my desk
from a daughter that I read for,and so I have this butterfly
here and I started gettingchills when I looked at the
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butterfly just before I signedon.
So I feel that the butterflyshe must have brought you, the
butterfly in the reading for youto experience that, because
they can bring such intricatedetails in a spiritual reading
to set you up.
And I always say stay openbecause whatever's coming in, if
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it seems random, it's not goingto be random for you, right.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
Right, and then that's why I want to.
That's a great point, becausewhen you're getting ready for
meetings, sometimes people sayyes, no, or this doesn't make
any sense to me, and I've hearda lot of meetings that will just
set that aside for later, andthen it's usually within a few
weeks, but in this case it wasover a year.
And then for the event tohappen that triggered me to
listen to it while I was on theplane, because that was totally
(40:46):
crazy too, because there'selectronic glitch with my, I
couldn't get to the internet.
I want to ask you about youtalked about rock and roll
heaven.
I know you've connected withsome, some famous people in the
afterlife.
Do you think you have a uniqueability to do that, or why do
you think you've had those typesof connections?
Speaker 2 (41:06):
Well, I feel it was just orchestrated that way.
When I had my spiritualawakening, the first entertainer
that came through was JeffHealy and he kept playing the
song when I was sleeping and Ididn't know him that much here I
love the 80s.
I grew up in the 80s.
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So I mean, yeah, love music.
And so he came first.
And then the next day I get inmy car and he just come to me in
my dream state Singing a songand I turn on my car and at the
turnkey that song is playing.
So he set me up with thesynchronistic event and
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validation that, yes, it was meand spirit does this all the
time.
So Then I started getting moreentertainers of Davey Jones.
I grew up with the monkeys,after school watching them.
He woke me up with the song andI could hear his voice and it
was very, very, very strong.
So they just started coming tome.
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My grandmother brought meWhitney Houston in meditation.
My father brought me Elvis inmeditation, my father's spirit,
and so it was really, I'll say,whitney.
That was the first entertainerthat I mean came to me for
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months and months and months andmonths until she asked me to
make a call and gave me aspecific name of someone that
she wanted me to call andMessage for.
Well, when I called her, thatspecific someone at this company
answered the phone and I saidto her I Don't know how to tell
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you this, but Whitney's beencoming to me and I'm, and she
said this and this and this andthis, and this woman goes, oh my
god.
So she worked with Whitney shegoes.
I came into the office and outof nowhere was her international
tour fan Giveaway, right on myseat no one knows where it came
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from, from 1991, and so Whitneywas setting her up for a
spiritual experience, letting meout for a spiritual experience
because she answered the phoneand Then it happened to be an
assistant to someone who workedwith Whitney in her, in her
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career.
Whitney wanted to give thatperson a very strong message, so
she orchestrated that wholething.
She'd been coming to me formonths and months and months,
playing her music everywhere, inmy sleep, waking up and
meditation.
There's one day I went intothree stores in Florida and her
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music was on in every singlestore and so I didn't know she
had a connection to DunkinDonuts.
But I was driving to Michiganone day and she was coming to me
and I pulled over to get acoffee and I walked into Dunkin
Donuts and her music was playingat Dunkin Donuts.
So she was just.
She continued to set me up withthese Synchronicities, signs
and validations for me toconnect with her loved one here
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and I gave I gave them a readingfrom her.
Okay and so I'm Prince to thesame thing.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
So specific.
They come to you with specificmessages for people typically
yes.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
Yeah, but they're also coming through To also
develop spiritually because theyhave to learn how to connect
when they get into the afterlifein the heavens.
They have to learn how to comereally close and just someone's
aura To give these veryevidential, specific messages.
You really have to blend withthe spiritual medium, I feel in
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my experience, and so they weredeveloping too.
I mean one thing that PrinceSaid when he came to me this is
my kitchen downstairs on the dayof his passing he, he, he said.
He said to me I hear you're amaster and I want to learn.
I want to learn.
I mean he did say that to me andI went to the meditation and
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there he was in meditation onthis balcony with this purple
galaxy around him and Whitneywas with him, and so it just
started.
He started coming to me On aregular basis.
I always tell this to.
He was incredible aboutbringing the signs Incredible.
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Everywhere I went, there wasPrince, prince on a menu, my
nail polish.
I was in jury duty and I gotout of jury duty and I was
walking down the sidewalk I'mlike who helped me here?
And then all the sunlight camedown and in the sidewalk Someone
wrote Prince hmm, right in thesidewalk.
So it's like they were Tellingme that we're here to stay, we,
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we want your help, we need yourhelp and I, I always say I Give
it back to spirit and I sayyou've got to do the work, I
will show up.
I will show up and give thespiritual reading, but you have
to do the work.
So that was early on well, 2016, 1416 but then I started doing
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a lot of the events.
The entertainers would comethrough for someone in the
audience at the live event, sothat started happening too in
the last five years.
So you would ask if it's unique.
My father was an entertainer.
He's in spirit, so I reallyfeel that, and he was connected
(46:54):
To some people in Hollywood.
Well, so I feel that.
But that connection is just sonatural.
It's just something that's justnatural for me.
I mean growing up and thenElvis.
I mean when Elvis came, thatwas an incredible part of my
journey Because he alsoconnected me, so and it was just
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very natural Rock with Elvis myentire life.
Speaker 1 (47:24):
So well, it makes sense.
You have that affinity of thatconnection to the musicians,
soul and Loving music, so itmakes sense that you know you
would be able, they would beable, to blend with you, maybe
easier than someone that doesn'thave that connection.
And you said something reallyimportant, I think, about you
know them having to learn tocommunicate because sometimes
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people, when our loved ones pass, so why don't I get the type of
sign other people get, whydon't I get that connection?
And I think sometimes it's theperson on the other side has to
learn to do these things.
Speaker 2 (47:55):
They do have to learn and I've had like loved ones
coming through and saying I'mjust learning this how?
And I would say, okay, stepcloser.
I always tell them come closer,it's okay, come closer, come
closer, blend, blend with my orblend with me.
Speaker 1 (48:12):
It's okay.
Speaker 2 (48:13):
So I mean it's funny that the kids Are so good at it,
they're so good.
It's just like blending, wherepeople that are older just tend
to stay, like you know here.
So I'm always helping, lovingsome spirit to I mean connect
and come closer or todifferently, like they don't
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understand that.
Can you bring it differently?
Just about a week or so ago Iwas reading for this woman.
She was from South Africa andin South Africa and her loved
ones were coming through and Iwas, and it was like two or
three at a time and I wasinviting just one at a time so
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the messages don't get likemumbled.
Well, I said I know your mom, Iknow she's trying to bring a
name because I keep seeing, I'mstarting to hear the name, but
I'm inviting her to come closer.
And she had just passed and sheactually Showed me something to
say her name and so theybrought their names and she
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showed like a mala and I said myand she goes, that's her name.
And so what I want to say aboutthis is that they were involved
in her spiritual awakeningbecause right after her
spiritual reading, within 24hours, to license plate showed
up with names.
Her grandfather was named Ajee.
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That was on a license plate,and so they brought that, and if
the signs show up within a day,I always send them To the one
that I read for, just so we'llunderstand that their loved ones
are doing this.
They're opening you up more tofeel their love, heal and
spiritually develop, and so Ithought it was amazing.
(50:05):
I thought it was just soamazing.
That always Amazes me when theybring the signs right away,
right with the spiritual reading.
It's it's amazing.
It's just what you to understandthat that did happen.
And now this is happening andit's validating right there and
with you, and we're still withyou.
Speaker 1 (50:26):
Yeah, that's.
The really cool thing is thevalidations.
You know when you, when you doget that because we we tend to
talk ourselves out of things alot of times people are like,
well, maybe that wasn't reallyreal, maybe that was a guess,
but spirit, I found you're righta lot of times that will back
it up with validations that arepretty much undeniable if you
keep your eyes open.
Speaker 2 (50:46):
Yes, and I do say you know you can receive signs
every day, just asking for asign in your heart and feel love
.
It's all about the feeling.
Spirit really responds to thefeelings that you're holding
within your, within your spirit,within your heart.
They respond to that.
So I teach to hold the place oflove in your heart and Ask them
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to bring you a sign.
They get to choose the sign.
There's only like one time inmy teaching, so it's teaching.
And this woman in my classshared that her mom has breast
cancer and she they had foundsomething in her mammogram and
she said to her mom in spirit,she said, mom, if I meant to
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have surgery, I want you tobring a bird in my house the
next day, so tomorrow.
Okay and this bird shows up inmy house.
I will have a surgery.
The next day.
Through her fireplace, a birdflew out into her house.
Speaker 1 (51:55):
Oh, wow.
Speaker 2 (51:56):
That is the only time , because I always say don't
choose the sign for spirit,let's spirit bring the sign that
they want.
So there's no block here right.
Just you know and you just bean observation daily for it.
Well, that was the.
That was the only time that Iheard something like that, but
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she was in high need.
She's I need.
Her mom passed a breast cancer.
They found something, and soshe needed to know, without a
shadow of a doubt, what her nextcan't deny that.
Speaker 1 (52:29):
But yeah, you know it's, it's interesting because
we do Tend to say, okay, well,there's, there's general rules,
right, but then also spiritcould do amazing things too,
when necessary.
I think think was Suzannegeeseman that told a story.
She was like asking forassignments and she asked for
something crazy like a pinkelephant, and then she was
driving by I think it was a cardealership and she looked up and
there was like a big pinkelephant in the lot.
(52:50):
So it's, it's sometimes fun toknow, maybe test it like that.
I tend to be more, like youknow, I don't want to really ask
for too much or not spring foranything specific, but I get
crazy signs and a lot of timesit'll be on special days.
On my birthday this year, youknow, I got a sign from Shane
and so so it's, it's fine, likeI like what you said about don't
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try to be too specific.
But it's also pretty cool when,when spirit really surprises us
to yes, it's, that part isamazing and I am.
Speaker 2 (53:24):
I'm pretty uplifted on regular basis with science.
I'm just like everybody else,I'm just like that's from my
grandma, that's from my uncle orit does blow me away and I do
feel just so much love andhealing when it happens.
It's almost like everything isplanned, everything is on your
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timeline, it's all planned.
And one of the first, I'll say,divine messages that came in in
my spiritual awakening Was it'sin the wonder that the
miraculous happens, and that wasgiven to me early on, and so
every day I would just be inwonder, wonder what spirits
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going to bring.
And I still am like thatwhenever I get a lot of signs in
my car, when I'm driving, a Lotof them, and so I'm always in
wonder when I get in my car,who's going to be connecting
with me and spirit.
And it happens every time I getin the car, every time I travel
.
(54:29):
We were just away a couple daysago and I just went to Priscilla
Presley show.
She was in town over a week orso ago and I went out to see her
show and First restaurant we goin and sit down.
There's a cardboard copy ofElvis, six feet tall, right in
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front of us Up on the wall aswe're eating dinner, and then I
walk into this art gallery andall shook up his plane and he
plays that song for me all thetime when, when he connects.
In meditation that specific songis is played.
And then I go into thisbookstore and I see this book in
(55:14):
the spirituality section calledall that Elvis.
Speaker 1 (55:17):
Hmm.
Speaker 2 (55:18):
So one, two, three Signs just a validation of, of
that connection.
So it's not just our loved onesthat can bring us these
spiritual signs, it's who's onour spiritual dream team.
Speaker 1 (55:35):
I say who's working with us.
Right.
Speaker 2 (55:40):
On our destiny and our spiritual path forward, and
so you, you can find that thatout if you hold this place of
who's with me, who's workingalongside me.
We all have a spiritual dreamteam helping us on this path
(56:00):
forward, and so I always askwho's with me today?
And then I see a sign.
Speaker 1 (56:07):
Yeah, absolutely, that's awesome.
So I want to ask you obviously,meditation you believe is
important, it was important toyour opening up and you've
released this, this album ofmeditation.
So tell me about that and howit can help people.
Speaker 2 (56:20):
So guiding meditations to awaken to spirit
are meditations that came infrom me during my my awakening,
that I received in meditation.
They were sort of downloadedand so there are six meditations
on the album and then the songAmazing Grace, which my niece is
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a singer songwriter out ofAustin, texas, and she sings on
the album Amazing Grace and it'sa beautiful angelic version,
and so they're all guidedmeditations.
One's an angel meditation tomeet your guardian angel.
Another one is called Oneness,where you specially journey to
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sacred spaces to connect withyour loved ones and spirit.
What was amazing is I taughtthis meditation workshop at the
conference that we saw eachother at last August and parents
came up and said that theyexperienced that their child and
spirit for the first time,which is what it's, what it's
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all about, and I say it's in thebelieving that we receive.
So, going into the meditation,feeling peace, love I mean peace
and love and being in a stateof allowing yourself to
experience this love and thishealing, because it can be quite
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powerful, and spirit in a way,kind of waits for us to be in
that meditative state for themto connect with us.
A lot of people experiencedtheir loved ones and spirit when
they're on vacation, becausethey're in a place of presence.
They're in a place of lettinggo, of allowing, of feeling
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peace, and so their loved onescan come so close.
When we're in this place ofpeace, love and joy, those are
the higher vibrations in theheavens and the afterlife.
When we can get there, that'swhen they can get there with us
and that's where medium comes in.
We're raising our vibrations,they're learning there's a
little bit in order to connectand communicate, and that's what
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medium means and that's whatwe're doing in meditation.
What does medium mean for me?
What does that mean, that word,what kind of meaning does it
mean for me?
And I was shown me on this bigwhite slate Me plus D, I, u, m,
(58:57):
and under D was a divineintelligence uplifting me.
It was shown in meditation.
And so I feel that if we'redoing our inner work to be in a
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place of peace, spirit is goingto very much develop us on a
daily basis.
I do feel centering, meditation, contemplation and reflection,
just getting out of the brainand just dropping those 18
(59:42):
inches into the heart, thespiritual center, and being
there a little bit every day, isreally going to help with the
connection, with the spiritualconnection, because it can
happen like that.
Speaker 1 (59:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (59:56):
So quickly yes.
Speaker 1 (59:58):
Well, as you said, we all, we all are spirit, but
then we are also in the body.
We've got the brain, we've gotall the brain on.
When you said people connect,you said on vacation.
I thought you were going to saywhen we're sleeping, because a
lot of times that in the dreamstate which you said kind of
sounds like it started with youand in that for me it's that in
between state it's like thatfour or five o'clock in the
(01:00:21):
morning when you just startingto wake up, and I've heard a lot
of different theories it'sabout why it is in the middle of
the night, but for a lot of usit seems to be that middle of
the night state.
Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
Well, right after deep REM sleep there is a
meditative state or wakefulness,and that is when spirit can
connect.
Mostly is right in thatmeditative state they can come
in and they usually, you know,show themselves very, very
healthy.
But there's so much more thatyou can experience when that
(01:00:52):
happens by communicatingyourself.
I mean it's all actuallytelepathic when they connect
with you spiritually, that youcan communicate with them and
communicate and ask questionsand receive, and there's so much
more.
So I I invite people, when youare experiencing spirit in your
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dream state, to just get closeand communicate and so much can
be, I'll say, given in thosespiritual experiences in the
dream state.
You can experience so much likejust that in between, when
(01:01:37):
you're spiritually journey, whenyour spirit is on like a
journey there, there's so muchyou can experience and there's
no space and time in theafterlife.
So it can feel like when you'reexperiencing that with your
loved ones and spirit, it canfeel like a whole night and it's
(01:01:58):
just that little place.
Yeah yeah, that that amazes me.
That part of it Just for me,soul journey, and I'm joining in
your spirit that part.
There's so much more I want tolearn and research about that.
(01:02:20):
Some people call it, you know,out of body experiences your
soul's traveling or journey.
It's happened to me a lot andsometimes I feel like I've been
on vacation with a loved oneJust in that short period of
(01:02:40):
time.
It feels like I've been gonefor a while and then I wake up
and I can't move.
So my body is like completelynumb and then it wakes up.
So I don't know people.
I know people have experiencedit.
I experienced it often.
(01:03:02):
There's so much more I want tolearn.
There's infinite, I think,wisdom around spirituality.
It's been written about, youknow, through the centuries.
There's so much I want to learnabout that part.
Speaker 1 (01:03:17):
Yeah, and I know people that do astral travel,
out of body travel, and I'veheard it described kind of the
way you're describing it people,you know there's different
feelings with their bodies whenthey come back in and stuff like
that.
So there is, there's so much,so much to learn, so much to
experience, you know, whilewe're here, and I'm glad that
(01:03:38):
you're allowing people tounderstand this.
So I know you have yourmeditation album and I know you
do medium readings.
What other things do you offer?
Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
So I do live events and I think our next one is
going to be in Detroit in thefall.
We haven't gotten the date orvenue yet, but spirits very
strong with me up there there'sjust there's a lot happening and
(01:04:12):
they come in very quickly andstrong and they're very
entertaining to for the audience.
Just the love and the healingthat comes through in live
events is pretty amazing andspirits very strong extremely
strong, so I also I also teachonline classes.
(01:04:33):
I have a three level programawakening aligned in it
awakening, attuned and alignedand we're just finishing up with
two of my groups so we may beopening it up again in the fall.
So my program is calledawakening.
It's a six month program whereyou learn about the gift of
(01:04:55):
spirit, spiritual signs, yourspiritual guides, meditation,
and then it goes on to attunefor you to more with with spirit
, and there's a lot ofapplication.
A lot of people that I'veworked with.
I've been teaching online since2016.
A lot of people have gone onand developed as as a spiritual
(01:05:21):
medium and so forth, or as achannel.
So those are the things I alsoteach meditation workshops
online and in person, and speakand speak.
Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
So let people know where they can find you.
Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
So, actually, first I want to talk about guided
meditations to awaken to spirit.
Absolutely, it is on Amazon andiTunes.
Can we download it?
There's a free meditation heartopening.
It's called on the album.
There's a free gift on mywebsite and you can go to
actually us call it up to you.
(01:05:59):
C H I N G, the number one Mhearts, so touching one M,
heartscom.
And I always tell this storyhow this name came about.
I was at a conference and I wasin a build this business,
building workshop and for yourspiritual business, and for some
(01:06:25):
reason the teacher put me inthe middle of the room and she
said everyone gather around soshe could receive something
around her business.
And that's what came intouching one million hearts.
So spirit, it's spirit given.
Speaker 1 (01:06:39):
Yeah, that's awesome and I'll put that in the show
notes, but I always like to getit on the on the recording, so
people can actually hear it aswell.
Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
Yes, yeah.
So I love meditation.
I mean, I have a dream to haveevents where people have
spiritual awakening.
That's what happened to me andI feel that that is that is a
dream of mine to have large, bigevents with meditation for
(01:07:08):
people to experience the lovefrom spirit and healing from
spirit.
I've heard that before.
I think that's the first timeI'm sharing that.
Speaker 1 (01:07:18):
I'm looking forward to seeing that happen.
Stacy, it's been a pleasurehaving you today.
Thank you for sharing your yourexperience with your wisdom,
and I appreciate it very much.
Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
Well, thank you for having me.
It's been wonderful, it's greatto connect with you.
I see your beard, yourbeautiful daughter, right right
behind you there.
She is a shiny light, shinylight.
Speaker 1 (01:07:43):
She's with me.
All right, rest your day.
Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
Okay, you too.
Thank you, Brian Bye.
Thank you.
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