Grow or Go

Grow or Go

We talk about Surfing the Sigmoid Curve. Or in other words: how everything, and everyone will experience inception, growth, maturity, and finally decline. But how do businesses, products, or people continue to grow both personally and professionally? We interview founders, business owners, professionals, and growth-minded individuals who have found success. And they share how they made it happen. We have 1 rule. Don't. Be. Boring. Hosted by Chris Jones, CEO, and co-owner of the largest business brokerage firm in the US, and Matt Silasiri, VP of Business Development. https://www.tnma.com

Episodes

May 1, 2025 37 mins

You've seen the news talking about changes in tariffs for weeks. Nobody has the answers, including us. That's why we brought on Pino Bacinello - our neighbor of the north.

Pino and Chris dig into tariffs and what's really going on. It's affecting businesses of all kinds, and can have a massive impact on owners, and consumers.

If you have more insight as to what's going on, and want to share your thoughts, contac...

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Meet Dan Bowling. Dan is not your typical entrepreneur. Dan was paralyzed from the neck down as a kid. But he didn't give up when the Doctors broke the news to him.

When he healed completely, he was a growing teenager that soon would set state records in track and field. Dan wasn't done, though. Every day was a gift in his eyes, and with that in mind, Dan went to work to conquer whatever was in front of him.

From dominating...

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Great salespeople often turn into sales managers. It's a natural climb up the food chain; but do they really know how to manage, encourage, and elevate their salespeople? The answer is no, and so many companies fail at this.

Gary Braun joins Chris to share why these issues occur, and how to fix them. With decades of experience as a top sales performer, Gary now runs Pivotal Advisors, where his team improves sales performance an...

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No matter how great of a salesperson you may think you are, your ceiling is even higher. We all think we have it figured out but guess what, we are usually winging it and not giving ourselves the highest probability of success.

Todd Thiewes with Sandler tackles the hard truths of why sales individuals typically think they are doing well, when they really aren't. How do they get better? Tune in.

To connect with Todd or the team at S...

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You want to sell your business to your employee who's been with you from the start. You've been planning on your eldest kid to succeed you when you are ready to get out. Time comes and guess what....? Things likely don't go as planned. Why? Tune in.

Chris has Matt take the mic on this episode and share his experience and expertise of working with hundreds of business owners before they exit. There's a reason these discussions happe...

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Servant leadership is a vastly growing practice. Even if you haven't heard of it, you can easily tell the difference between a self-serving leader, and a servant leader.

Join us as we explore the transformative power of servant leadership with Andrew Leikvoll. Discover how this approach builds high-performing teams, debunks myths of being "soft," and drives significant performance improvements. Learn why servant leade...

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Ever wondered what it's like to own a Chick-fil-A restaurant? Join us as we sit down with Alex Wilson, a devoted husband, father, and faith-driven entrepreneur. Alex's journey began as a global tech consultant, but he found his true calling in operating two Chick-fil-A restaurants alongside his wife. Hear how he integrates his faith into business and family life, balancing success with spiritual values. Discover the inspiring story...

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Starting in an apartment closet and selling car parts, Dan Carey brings us through his story of how he dominated the e-commerce automotive parts space. The real life Fast and Furious... well, kind of.

After scaling the startup, Modern Automotive Performance to $10M in revenue, Dan and his brother implemented the Entrepreneurial Operating System (EOS) after hitting a plateau. This was as key change in his entrepreneurial journey tha...

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There are Business WARRIORS and Business WORKERS. Which one are you? Spoiler: companies with Business WARRIORS blast through their ceilings of success, while the opposition stays stagnant.


Chris and Matt interview Erik Therwanger, the founder of Think GREAT. Erik draws from his experiences as a U.S. Marine, executive business leader, sales professional, andentrepreneur to help organizations achieve new levels of success. He uni...

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Ever wondered why you fell off the wagon after months or years of hard work? It's not a straight forward answer, but there are some tell tale signs as to why this happens.

Chris and Matt dig deep with Leary Gates, who is an expert advisor that helps business owners scale their business to transform their world.

Leary has spent the past 30 years advising Fortune 100, start-ups, and a host of middle market tech, manufacturing, and bu...

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For owners of childcare businesses, or anyone curious about the industry, this one's for you! We take a deep dive into Mike Minor's story on how he navigated owning and successfully exiting a generational, multi-location childcare business.


Mike has over 30 years of professional experience including roles at Ernst and Young, Honeywell, and his own family’s childcare organization. He worked in every position from janitorial, to work...

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When's the best time to sell your lower-middle-market company and how do you even do it? Chris and Matt interview Dan Sundin; a husband, father, dog lover, and tech nerd who started, grew, and sold his successful technology company.


Dan grew up in less than desirable conditions and started his career at 12 years old, lugging around golf bags at Golden Valley Country Club. He had a passion for technology, and his grit and det...

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What is the sigmoid curve and why is it so relevant to business owners? Chris interviews Randy Krivo, owner of 4 businesses, and now one of the top business brokers in the country.

For most of his professional career, Randy has started, built, and sold multiple businesses. Now, he focuses on helping business owners exit and maximize their life's work. Being in the brokerage and M&A space for 10 years withSunbelt Business Advisor...

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