September 15, 2025 • 46 mins
In this episode of the Growing Tall Poppies Podcast, host Dr. Nat Green engages with Hope Pedraza, a functional diagnostic nutrition practitioner and host of the Hopeful and Wholesome podcast.
Hope discusses her multifaceted approach to healing from trauma, integrating functional labs, human design, clinical hypnotherapy, and NLP. She shares her personal journey through divorce, religious trauma, and major life changes, emphasizing the importance of body awareness and resilience in post-traumatic growth.
Tune in to discover how understanding and listening to your body can lead to deeper self-awareness, healing, and thriving after trauma.
Are you ready to move from surviving trauma to thriving in your life? In this transformative episode of Growing Tall Poppies, learn about how to heal from trauma, optimize your energy, and reconnect with your body’s wisdom.
Hope reveals her signature approach, blending functional labs, Human Design embodiment, and subconscious reprogramming, to help high-performing, spiritually curious women overcome burnout, reclaim their energy, and scale their lives with clarity and confidence.
In this episode, you’ll discover:
- How trauma shows up in your body and nervous system — and why listening to your body is the first step toward healing
- The role of Human Design in understanding your unique energy blueprint and making aligned decisions
- Practical ways to tune into your body through body scans and energy check-ins
- Why energy leaks can be the hidden source of physical symptoms and how to uncover them
- Strategies to strengthen resilience, optimism, and your inner guidance system
- Hope’s “Energy Leak Locator Quiz” to identify where your energy is leaking and how to rebalance it
Whether you’re navigating post-trauma growth, chronic stress, or burnout, this episode will give you actionable insights and tools to reconnect with your body, soul, and purpose.
Connect with Hope
✨ Resources from this episode:
- Hope’s website: hopefulandwholesome.com
Take the FREE Energy Leak Locator quiz to find out where your energy is leaking and how to fix it: https://www.tryinteract.com/share/quiz/67f804c78eec070015ad4d2e
If you’ve ever felt burned out, disconnected, or stuck after trauma, this episode will help you start listening to your body, reclaim your energy, and move forward with purpose.
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Dr Nat Green (00:01):
Welcome to the Growing Tall Poppies Podcast.
I'm your host, Dr.
Nat Green, and I'm so excited tohave you join me as we discuss
what it means to navigate yourway through post-traumatic
growth and not just survive, butto thrive after trauma.
(00:23):
Through our podcast, we willexplore ways for you to create a
life filled with greaterpurpose, self-awareness, and a
deep inner peace.
Through integrating the manyyears of knowledge and
professional experience, as wellas the wisdom of those who have
experienced trauma firsthand.
(00:44):
We'll combine psychologyaccelerated approaches.
Coaching and personal experienceto assist you, to learn, to grow
and to thrive.
I hope to empower you to createdeeper awareness and
understanding and strongerconnections with yourself and
with others, whilst also pavingthe way for those who have
(01:08):
experienced trauma and adversityto reduce their suffering and
become the very best versions ofthemselves.
In order to thrive.
Thank you so much for joining meon today's episode.
I'm super excited and gratefultoday to bring you our next
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guest on the Growing TallPoppies podcast.
It's my absolute pleasure towelcome an amazing lady.
She has experienced some traumaand adversity throughout her
life and has agreed to come andchat to us today about both her
personal and professionalexperience and share her wisdom
with us.
So let me start by welcomingHope Pedraza.
(01:52):
Hope is a functional diagnostic,nutrition practitioner, human
design guide, clinicalhypnotherapist, and host of the
Hopeful and Wholesome podcast.
And let me tell you, it is anamazing podcast.
I've been binge listening to itlately.
I love it.
And she helps high performing,spiritually curious women
optimize their energy, rebalancetheir nervous system, and
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reconnect with their body'swisdom.
So they can scale their businessand their life without burnout.
Her signature method blends,functional labs, human design,
embodiment, and subconsciousreprogramming to create
sustainable radiance from theinside out.
So welcome, Hope.
It's so great to have you here.
Hope Pedraza (02:35):
Thank you.
I'm so excited to be here andchat with you.
Dr Nat Green (02:40):
Alright, so you've got a wealth of experience and
knowledge and information toshare with us today.
I am super excited.
Could we start with you givingus a bit of a brief introduction
of who you are and what you aredoing in the world now?
Hope Pedraza (02:57):
Yeah, for sure.
So I am as a human.
I am, I'm a mom.
I have two littles.
I am a wife, I have husband, I'ma business owner and an
entrepreneur.
I have a brick and mortarPilates and fitness studio here.
I'm in the States and I'm inSouth Texas.
And then I also have my onlinebusiness where, as you
mentioned, I'm a functionalpractitioner.
(03:19):
The work that I do as afunctional practitioner is for
me, I, I just relish overanything of where science meets
soul.
And for me, that's the work thatI do with my clients is, you
know, yes, I'll run thefunctional labs and we'll do the
functional work and we'll talkabout nutrition and minerals and
labs and all those things.
But I am a firm believer thateverything physical happening on
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the body has an energetic oremotional root cause.
And so.
As you mentioned in my bio, Itie in things like human design
and hypnotherapy and NLP andthese subconscious modalities
for us to really get to the rootcause, and this is my, the
evolution of my businesses hasbeen kind of in, in step with my
(04:04):
own personal evolution as I'veused these tools with myself and
recognizing like, oh, okay, it'snot just enough to think about
my diet or how much I'm workingout.
Like right, there's all thesedeep root layers.
So yeah, I've just been,especially over the past man,
over the past probably fiveyears, I feel like for a lot of
people, I know it's true for alot of people, COVID was like
this portal of just like reallyintense change and in a lot of
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different ways.
And so I feel like it was likethat for me.
And the past few yearsespecially, have just been a
time of like growth andspiritual awakening and healing
and all the things.
Oh,
Dr Nat Green (04:41):
you're speaking my language in multiple layers
there as you introduced allthese things.
And as you know, I, I love NLP.
That's, that's my preferredmodality, and I just think that
we get so much.
Movement with our clients whenwe're doing the accelerated
(05:02):
processes using NLP in a healthyand helpful way.
We know that there's some peoplethat have used it not so well
and that's given it a bad wrap alot of the time.
But the functional medicinestuff and looking at people as a
whole is so important.
'cause a lot of our listeners,as I was saying to you before we
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started.
Present with invisibleillnesses, chronic health
conditions, autoimmunedisorders, and.
I love that you are able toreally see the person as a whole
and get to the root cause.
So tell us a bit more about thatwork that you do.
'cause I love
Hope Pedraza (05:43):
Yeah, yeah.
No, I love it too.
And I mean, as I said, it isjust the how I got.
The work that I'm doing now hasjust been this constant
evolution.
So when I, when I first startedmy brick and mortar studio, my
business, I wanted to createthis one stop shop.
You can get everything you wantin one place.
And so, you know, we havePilates and fitness and
meditation, yoga, you know, allthe things.
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And so I started with just basicnutrition coaching and women.
I was working.
Only women at the time, and theywere coming to me for basic
things, right?
It's what most of'em are like,oh, I wanna drop 10 pounds or
something like that.
But when I'm, I was havingconversations with these women,
this is kind of when at somepoint a light bulb went off
where I'm thinking, okay, what'sreally going on in your body?
(06:25):
Requires a deeper conversationthan just talking about calories
and macros because that waskinda the extent of it.
And so I'm recognizing you.
There's gut issues, there'shormone issues, there's thyroid
issues.
Like I was, I was recognized.
There's all these deeper things.
So that sent me down the path tobecome a functional
practitioner.
And you know, I did a lot ofwork on myself and I went
through a period of really badadrenal burnout, so help heal my
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body.
But then I was recognizing,okay, well these specific things
keep flaring up.
And what's up with that?
And so this is when Irecognized, okay, like there's
some energetic things in mybody.
There's like emotional things Iwas holding onto and mm-hmm.
And you talk about this a lot onyour show, like we hold on to a
lot of these emotions that, thatare experienced during, you
know, our trauma Big T or littlet And that was the part that I
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hadn't addressed yet.
And so I, this is when I kind ofput all these other pieces
together and I, I brought insome more modalities and did
some more certifications andtrainings and all that.
And I think that.
You know, the, the people thatcome to work with me, they've
been to other practitioners alot of times, other functional
practitioners.
Mm.
They've maybe gone theconventional medical route, but
(07:31):
it's either they, they can't getthe relief that they're really
looking for.
They haven't got, like, they canfeel some relief, but it's like,
well, I know that there's,there's an optimal available for
me that I'm not able to get to.
Right.
It's like just outta reach.
Yeah.
And a lot of times they haven'thad results at all.
It's like, oh, like they give mea diagnosis and they just wanna
gimme a bunch of stuff, butthey're not really helping me
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heal.
Like I don't want a bandaidsolution.
Right?
Dr Nat Green (07:54):
Mm-hmm.
Hope Pedraza (07:54):
And so for me, this is where all of this work
comes in and diving into theenergetic body and helping them
understand themselves, thatthat's the big, a really big
piece for me.
Is, I want every person who Iwork with to really understand
their body.
'cause it's one thing forsomebody to just tell you, oh,
do this.
And they, you know, they giveyou a, a protocol like, you
know, go do this and take thesethings.
I want you to actuallyunderstand what's going on.
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Here's what's going on in yourphysical body.
Here's how your energetic bodyis designed to function.
Here is why there's a disconnectand why you're experiencing
these things.
So you have, like, you'reequipping yourself and with the
tools.
So now you're resourced.
And so now when you have a flareup or whatever, you have the
tools to help, but it all comesdown to really understanding
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yourself at that energetic leveland understanding.
The role that emotions play inour physical health.
Dr Nat Green (08:45):
Yes.
I love that so much.
Oh, I can so relate because Ihave autoimmune conditions.
I think I'm gonna book in for asession or two or 10.
You'll go off.
I think you're a year's worth ofwork for me Nat
Hope Pedraza (09:01):
I am happy to take it.
Dr Nat Green (09:03):
I'll be booking in, I think.
I just know that I, you know,the autoimmune conditions and I.
Went down, you know, what'sgoing on, what's going on.
I've done the healing, I've donethe emotional stuff, but there's
more, but mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Anyway, enough.
Enough about me.
I could just think.
There are so many of ourlisteners who have the same
things.
They reach out and they say,I've got this condition and I've
(09:26):
seen this doctor and anintegrative doctor and this
specialist, and, and they're notgetting the answers.
So I love that you are lookingdeeper at that energetic.
Process within our body, becausethat often gets missed.
Mm-hmm.
Particularly in, you know, ournormal medical model that we
have here.
(09:46):
Right.
Right.
'cause yeah.
Functional practitioners are sofew and far between here.
Certainly accessible ones.
Hope Pedraza (09:54):
Sure.
Yeah.
For sure.
Yeah, I mean, I, I think that'sthe, that is the big piece
that's missing because.
It's one thing to, that's,that's the thing with root
cause, like we talk about rootcause and a lot of times we can
look at it from a strictlyfunctional perspective and say,
okay, the root cause is us, youknow, doing these functional
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labs and then we can see, youknow, what's happened in your
body to make your thyroid actthis way.
Or you know, why your autoimmunethings happen this way.
But for me, it's one thing tosay, oh, your cortisol is doing
this, your hormones are doingthis, your gut's doing this.
Well, what's happeningenergetically, that's making
your cortisol do that.
Exactly What is programmedenergetically to make your gut
do that.
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Like that's, that's the deeperroot cause that, that I wanna
get down to the bottom of,
Dr Nat Green (10:40):
I love it.
I think people are gonna beknocking down your door.
Yeah.
So as we know, the guests that Iget on here.
Have experienced trauma oradversity in their life.
And so we talk a little bitabout that and I'm happy for you
to share as much or as little asyou like.
(11:00):
So I'm just wondering if youcould give us an overview of
what has happened for you inyour life that led you to
wanting to get to your rootcause?
Hope Pedraza (11:09):
Yeah, yeah.
No, that's a great question.
Uh, I, there's so much surewhere to start.
I feel like the past, like.
Probably 10 years.
The last decade has probablybeen the most, like when the
most has happened, and it hasbeen the most transformational.
But then, but then there's theseother pieces too that tie into,
(11:31):
you know, things that I've dealtwith.
So in the past 10 years.
I mean, I've gone throughdivorce, I've gone through
bankruptcy, I've gone throughlawsuits.
I've gone through watching mydad die.
I watched my dad's healthdecline and literally watching
him die, like I've been through,uh, having kids and, you know,
life transitions and all.
Like, there's so much that hashappened in the past decade and.
(11:54):
All of that has shaped, youknow, my energetic emotional
landscape and of things thatI've had to work through.
And then I think that the otherpiece that was kind of before
that was, and, and I didn'trecognize this, I was working
with, um, like a spiritualbusiness coach.
I think it was like right whenCOVID hit, so probably around
(12:15):
2020 when a lot of this startedhitting me, recognizing that
there was a lot of, you've toldme talk, I'm, I dunno if you've
talked deeply about this, butabout religious trauma and how
that has shaped who I am and nowgranted I wasn't, I know there's
levels to that too.
Like I wasn't in a cult.
I guess that's might bedebatable for some people, but
the, but just the.
(12:37):
The teachings that wereingrained in me from, I mean,
from birth, that affected andshaped my sense of self and my
self-worth.
Mm-hmm.
My confidence, my value, my selfis like all of those things.
And there's so many people, Imean, that's still, honestly,
that's still a work in progressfor me.
Like there's layers, like youwere talking about layers.
There's layers of these thingsthat come up and I'm, you know,
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now I, I feel like I've.
You know, I've grown so muchwhere I can be a little bit more
curious about it.
Like, huh, that's interesting.
Mm-hmm.
Like, why am I getting triggeredby that thing?
Or like, why is that thingbothering me?
And this other layer comes out?
And so it's, it's just, there'sso much to unpack there, but,
but I think that that kind ofbeing tucked under the surface
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and then dealing with all thoseother traumas over the past
decade has just really, yeah.
Been part of my healing journey.
Dr Nat Green (13:26):
Hmm.
Thank you for being so open andsharing that.
So again, so many layers and alot of that, like someone would
hear that and go, oh my God, youknow, one of those is bad
enough, but to have multiplelayers.
But it's interesting that asthose layers have peeled away
and you've worked through those,that underlying layer that may
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have shaped all of that hasshown itself now.
So yeah.
I think those things are reallyimportant, that when we go
through trauma, it's not a oneand done and the layers show
themselves when we're ready.
Mm-hmm.
To see them, to feel them, toprocess them.
Yeah, that's exactly it.
(14:12):
So it's interesting though, thatyour journey took you to, you
were way ahead of the game intrying to get to the root cause
and uncover that and do thehealing.
So you were healing yourself asyou found out more.
Mm-hmm.
To then be able to deal with theunderlying thing.
And I think, you know, religionplays a part in, in a lot of
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people's lives at varyinglevels, and some people are so
anti because of what they'vegone through.
Hope Pedraza (14:38):
Right.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Dr Nat Green (14:40):
Yeah.
It shapes so much of who we areand our values.
So when you look back, what werethe biggest turning points for
you with your traumas, do youthink?
Hope Pedraza (14:55):
I think I, I really think that my divorce was
kind of the catalyst for.
Everything else And that, thatone happened probably, yeah,
that one happened first becauseall the other things happened
after that.
So my divorce, yeah, my divorcehappened in 2012 and that was, I
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mean, that was like, I.
Like earth shattering for me,because again, growing up in
very conservative religion, theworst possible thing you could
do was get divorced.
Like, oh, you're for sure goingto hell now.
Like you got divorced.
Yeah.
So it was, I mean, there was somuch shame and guilt attached to
that and so much like, you know,I also type a perfectionist is
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like, well, I'm a failure.
Like I'm a total failure.
And even though.
Not saying I'd not played a partin any of the divorce, but like
he, there was infidelity andthere was a whole thing.
So I think that was probably thebreaking point for me.
And I had a friend at the time.
And it's funny to think abouthow people come into your life
for a brief moment and thenthey're gone because at some
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point we lost touch and I, Ihave no idea where she is, but
it was, it's like the universejust puts people where they need
to be at the right time, youknow?
So I had this friend at thetime, and I mean, I was just
devastated and like, I don'tknow what to do with myself and
I don't know what to do.
You know, you when you grow up.
I grew up in the south.
The United States, so it'scalled the Bible Belt.
And you, you follow the order ofthings and you go to school and
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you get married and you havekids and you, right?
And so now it's like, well, whatam I gonna do now?
Like the timeline is all messedup.
And so I had a friend at thetime and she told me, she said,
you, I understand.
Like there's a grieving processthat has to happen here.
She's like, but you havecompletely your identity.
Is so tied up in that marriagewhat we used to be, that you
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have completely lost your senseof self.
Yeah.
She's like, the reason you're sodevastated is because you don't
even know who you are outsideof.
That.
Yes.
And I was so harsh and so I wasso offended at the time, but
then recognizing like she wasabsolutely right.
I, that identity was tied upand, and I didn't know who I was
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and had my own opinions andbeliefs about Right.
It was so that, that was a hugemoment for me and I think that
was such a, the beginning ofsuch a huge amount of growth of
me.
Discovering myself maybe for thefirst time, like what I liked
and didn't like and what Ibelieve my beliefs and my values
about things, and recognizingthat I was allowed to have own
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opinions about things thatdidn't have to align with, you
know, how it was raised andright.
So, yeah, I would say that wasreally the portal for the rest
of it.
Dr Nat Green (17:39):
Yeah.
Which makes complete sensebecause your whole identity had
been shattered.
A hundred percent.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And a hundred percent, as yousaid, everything, the way you
were raised, everything aboutwho you were and who you were
believed to be safe, people wasgone.
(18:00):
Yeah.
Yeah.
So in one, you know, quickmoment, it's like, bang, who am
I now?
And I've lost everything.
Exactly.
So I completely get it.
Your identity shifted and had toshift, or you would've been
stuck in the distress attachedto that trauma?
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
(18:21):
Wow.
So when you look back at that,how do you think you have
changed and your identity haschanged as a result of that
because of what you've beenthrough?
Hope Pedraza (18:35):
I Mean, I am a hundred percent totally a
different person than I was backthen in, in a lot of different
ways.
And you know, like you weresaying, how, these traumas kind
of shape you and it, it can kindof prepare you for the next
thing.
And so, you know, I, I've dealtwith a lot over the past since
then, right?
My, my dad got super sick and,you know, there's that whole
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thing and watched my dad die andthen bankruptcy lawsuits, all
these things.
So I do feel like there was.
By basically being forced intothis self-discovery journey by
default.
Like, well, now I have to figureout who I am because I clearly
didn't know before this.
That really prepared, paved thepath for me for this, the, the
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last, you know, however manyyears of, of growth that I've
had.
And so I think that.
Understanding myself.
And again, this is multilayered'cause I think the other thing
that happened, so this, there'sstill, I mean this is like kind
of a trauma thing too.
I grew up, as mentioned, I wastype A perfectionist.
I had disordered eating behaviorfor a very long time.
Mm-hmm.
And so kind of at this.
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When the divorce happened andall this growth was happening at
the same time, I was, I, I kindof used that to help heal my
body image and my, that kind ofstuff.
So this is all happening at thesame time.
So there was this sense of thisnew found sense of self-worth
and confidence andself-awareness.
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That kind of came up from this,and that really kind of led me
into, I mean, it led me into thework that it, I, I don't know.
I mean, I don't know.
You never know what would'vehappened, but I just think about
like what I'm doing now.
And me like having the courageto quit my job.
I mean, I had like a regular,like I use air quotes here, like
a real job.
Yeah.
Right before I decided to be abusiness owner.
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And so I think about that, likemaybe I wouldn't have had the
courage to quit my job that hadbenefits and insurance and all
the things right.
To go do that.
So it's, yeah, it allowed me to,to like, I, I, I think too, and
this is really the past fewyears, has really been a huge
piece of the, uh, a huge area ofgrowth for me, but really
listening to my intuition.
(20:45):
Like that was a really big piecefor me too, and really tuning
into that and, and, and learningthat about myself.
'cause I think I had, well Iknow I did.
I don't think I know that I hadpushed that away for so long
because of the religious thingyeah.
You live this way and you thinkthis way and you do things this
way.
Mm-hmm.
And so you kind of quiet yourown.
(21:07):
Right.
Your inner, inner voice, innercompass and yeah.
So that's, that's been a bigbreakthrough for me too.
Hmm.
Dr Nat Green (21:14):
Yes.
Thank you for sharing that.
So as you look at all the thingsand all the layers that have
peeled away, do you thinkthere's any specific qualities
or personal attributes that youhave seen as being key for
moving from trauma intoposttraumatic growth in yourself
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and in other people?
People that you work with?
Mm-hmm.
Hope Pedraza (21:38):
Yeah, I think, I think there's a couple things.
I think that.
There's, there's a resiliency Ithink that's required.
Mm-hmm.
And I, that one, I think there,it's like a combination of
nature and nurture.
'cause I, I, I often think aboutthat.
Is it nature versus nurture?
I think it's a combination ofthose, the resiliency.
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I do think that some people.
And I mean, I, I believe in likeold souls and past lives, so I
do think that sometimes that'sjust our soul contract that
we're meant to go throughthrough certain things.
And some people have lived liveswhere they've been able to go
through more things so they canhandle things in a different
way.
Dr Nat Green (22:13):
Mm-hmm.
Hope Pedraza (22:14):
So, so I do think that's, there's some nature
versus and nurture that is wellthere, but I think there's a
sense of resiliency.
And I think the other thing is,what's the word I'm looking for?
This sense of.
Optimism is the word that'scoming in.
I don't know if that's exactlythe word that I wanna use, but,
but that's what I'm gonna gowith.
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But it's this sense of optimismthat there is more available,
like there is more available.
And I think that's the mindsetthat I've always taken.
And now granted, I probablywouldn't have had this mindset
before this, but with my owngrowth and spiritual growth and
all that, I.
I have these desires in my soul,right?
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I talk a lot about purpose on myshow.
I have these desires in my soul,and I believe that they would
not be there if they weren'tmeant for me, like God,
universe, whatever, would nothave put them there if they
weren't meant for me.
And so I have to believe thatthere's more available and that
there is more to come.
And so I think that's themindset that I've taken through.
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All of the things.
Dr Nat Green (23:20):
Mm-hmm.
Hope Pedraza (23:21):
And, um, like the COVID times is really hard for
me.
That's where it kind of, there'sa lot going on with bankruptcy
and lawsuits on this stuff, andthat was just kind of my, and I
was sick and pregnant at thetime.
It was just like perfect time tobe pregnant.
But that was kind of my mindsetto get me through that, where I
have this fire in my soul to dothis thing.
I have this, so I know it'smeant for me.
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So I just have to keepbelieving.
That just, if I keep taking onestep after another that I'm on
the right path, I'm gonna, I'mgonna get there.
Dr Nat Green (23:51):
Love that.
So how do you like, you knowthat you've got that fire in
your soul and when you talkedabout it, you lit up and I could
see that and, and when you'vetalked about all the things that
you've done as you've exploredthis, I'm just wondering how do
you know you are connecting withyour purpose and how do you stay
(24:12):
on track?
Hope Pedraza (24:13):
Hmm.
I think for me, for me, really,it's just.
It's how I feel in my body.
And this has been also been awork in progress.
You know, we talked on my show,we talked about, you know, how
people kind of disconnect thebody from the mind and we stay
up in the mind a lot.
And that's been a really bigarea of growth since, you know,
(24:37):
in that post-traumatic growthfor me is, is really tuning into
my body.
And, it's also the intuitionthing, right?
I, I can recognize.
The difference between, most ofthe time, I don't wanna say it
perfect, but for the majority ofthe time mm-hmm.
I can recognize the differencebetween fear and intuition.
Right.
Am I making this decision outtafear or is it my intuition?
(24:58):
And, and I can feel in my body,I've done so much somatic work
to, to get into my body andlisten to my body.
And so for me, that's what itis.
It's just, it's how does it feelin my body when I'm making a
decision, when I'm deciding todo something I know in my body,
if it's a.
Lift.
If it's a lightness, if it's anexpansion, expansive feeling in
the body, then I know I'm goingin the right path.
(25:19):
If it's a restriction, acontraction constriction, a
heaviness, then I know it's not.
So it's, for me, it's justtuning into my body and letting
that lead the way.
Dr Nat Green (25:31):
Yes.
And, and as we know, a lot ofpeople when they've been through
trauma, struggle to tune in withtheir body.
Mm-hmm.
A disconnect because.
They're not who they used to be.
So they're not really familiarwith the fact that they're
feeling these new things orthey've shut down their capacity
to feel and they're not in tunewith their gut.
(25:54):
So what would be one way thatyou help someone you work with
to tune in with themselves?
Hope Pedraza (26:03):
Yeah, I think it, it is tricky and I think for me.
Especially after my divorce, andthat was such like an earth
shattering moment for me.
I, I didn't know how to tuneinto my body because, because
then I'm like, I doubted myselflike, well, I clearly made the
wrong decision, so how do I evertrust myself again?
(26:23):
Like this wasn't right.
And so I, I think there's acouple parts of that.
I think first of all, there'sthe perspective of.
Like, I don't believe, I don'treally believe that God or the
universe tests us, but I dothink that there are initiations
that happen because we ask formore and it requires an
initiation for us to get, like,to be able to get to that next
(26:46):
level for more.
So I think having thatperspective where it doesn't
necessarily mean you made thewrong decision, it's like, okay,
this is, this is kind of, Imean, I guess you could say it's
a test.
I don't, I don't see it thatway, but this is a moment.
Where you're able to, um, likeput on display your resiliency
and your, like all of thesethings that, these, these tools
(27:06):
that you have, right?
And so you're able to, to, tomove past it in that way.
So I think there's that piece.
I think the other piece is goingdirectly back to your question
is to help people get into theirbody.
And you, you mentioned this apractice that you use in talking
about a body scan.
And I, I think I, I pretty muchdo something similar where.
Um, you know, I, I use hypnosisin my practice, and so if you,
(27:28):
you know, we can get into thehypnotic state and talk to the
subconscious mind, then we canget into the body and it's just,
it's just allowing people tofeel sensations in their body.
And it's, it's, it's a bodyscan.
It's a, it's a tuning in.
It's a, and you know, I, I workwith human design.
When I talk about authority,which is how you make decisions,
(27:49):
all of these are body-based, andthat's a big, that's a big way
too.
So I, I help them understandwhat their authority is, how
they best make decisions, andthen we use that like, okay, how
do we tune into this specificpart of the body where you're
designed to make decisions andhow we can we.
Feel that, and it just takespractice.
It takes practice to turn offyour mind.
'cause that's what happensfirst.
'cause your mind wants to getall in it and like start getting
(28:11):
into the this.
Like, no, let's turn the mindoff.
So that's a big part of it.
And then can you just feel yourbody?
And I have the, the first thing,if my clients are coming to me,
and this is like a completelyforeign concept, which isn't
always the case.
I have some clients who are veryin tune with their body and they
can, you know.
Mm-hmm.
But some of my clients.
Like a foreign concept.
So I have, okay.
Can you just take three timesduring the day, sometime in the
(28:35):
morning, like maybe right whenyou wake up sometime in the
middle of the day and thensometime in the evening and just
do a quick check-in.
Check with your body, quick bodyscan.
How, how do I feel?
Does anything, is there pain,sharpness, tension, whatever,
like, but doing that at threedifferent parts of the day
allows them to, A, they'retaking the time to do it and
actually have that, like makingit a practice to an enter their
(28:58):
body and listen.
Mm-hmm.
But a lot of times too.
You might feel great in themorning, but feel terrible in
the evening, but you're like,but then you'll tell me like, oh
no, I feel great.
When you're doing thesecheck-ins, you recognize, oh,
there's parts there where Idon't feel great and, and you're
building that practice of tuninginto your body.
So just those quick littlecheck-ins.
It sounds so simplistic, and itis, I mean, it's very simple,
(29:20):
but just starting that practice,you're making yourself tune into
your body, listen to your body,and you start to build that
relationship with yourself.
Dr Nat Green (29:28):
Mm.
Hope Pedraza (29:28):
Where you can, your, now your, your body and
your mind can start to talk toeach other.
Dr Nat Green (29:34):
Oh, I love that so much.
Because you're right.
How often do you know we see aclient and how are you?
I'm good.
And how is your day, my good daywas great because they've taken
that one little bit where it wasokay.
Mm-hmm.
And they think that's whatthey've gotta tell you.
Yep.
Not about.
The other parts that were shitand really weren't great that
(29:56):
exactly that they've forgottenabout or they've skimmed over
because then it changed.
So I think that, and being ableto then keep track of that and
share that as well helps you geta better picture mm-hmm.
Of what's really been going onfor them for the day.
So I love that.
And I know.
I've done a bit on human design,but not a huge amount.
(30:19):
So I'd love you to tell us alittle bit more about that.
'cause I know it's your love andpassion.
Hope Pedraza (30:24):
Yeah, I do.
I love human design and it'sbeen such, this, that really
been such a crucial tool for meand the post-traumatic growth
process.
Um, so human design isessentially your energetic
blueprint, your soul's energeticblueprint.
So it's how your energy isdesigned to operate.
And it puts together someancient teachings like the, the
chakra system, which I'm sure alot of people are familiar with,
(30:46):
the chakra system.
Mm-hmm.
Astrology, the Cabo Tree ofLife, ITing.
And it puts it together withsome modern day sciences, like
quantum mechanics and quantumphysics and neuroscience, and it
puts it together into thischart.
Mm-hmm.
Dr Nat Green (30:56):
And
Hope Pedraza (30:56):
so, as I mentioned before, I love anything at the,
the intersection of science andsoul, and human design is like,
I mean, that's.
That's the essence of it.
Perfect, isn't it?
Yeah.
And yes.
Yes.
And, and there's like, you canget really sciencey, but like
there's this whole part aboutneutrinos, which are these
subatomic particles that can,uh, affect our DNA.
So like there's this wholesciencey part of it, but that
sciencey part aside, justlooking at it.
(31:18):
At base level, it helps youunderstand your energy.
And so it's how you're designedto make decisions, how you're
designed to respond to the worldaround you and, and other
people.
Um, I can see things like howyou're designed to digest food
and information around you andenergy around you.
Wow.
It's how your energy is flowingthrough your different energy
(31:38):
centers, so how it affects yourdifferent organs in the body or
different organ systems.
And so there's so much to lookat and for me it was such a.
Crucial healing tool because ithelped me understand me at a
really deep level.
Dr Nat Green (31:53):
Hmm.
Hope Pedraza (31:53):
And it gave me, it was super validating, first of
all, like seeing it andrecognizing there was a lot of
pieces that I've tried to, youknow, shove aside or push down
or argue away.
Like, no, that's not me, where Ican see it now.
Like, oh, this, I'm, I'mdesigned to operate this way.
Like this is me.
People might have heard thisbefore, people call like, oh,
(32:15):
you know, it's such a, it's apermission slip.
And that's really what it feltlike for me because there are so
many parts of me that I, I didfeel like I was trying to change
or shove aside or fight it downor whatever.
And.
I could see now, like, no, I wasdivinely designed this way.
This is how I'm designed tooperate.
And so that, it just reallyallowed me to see me at that
(32:37):
level and to be able to live mylife more authentically and true
to me.
And, and that's, I mean, that'show it's helped me moving
forward as well.
And just understanding my energyand how it's designed to operate
and how I'm designed to be hereon this planet.
Dr Nat Green (32:56):
I really love how you've.
Layered on all the amazing, thefunctional stuff that you do
into that as well.
I've not heard that done withhuman design, so that is really
of interest.
I remember doing the humandesign many years ago with one
of my mentors.
And I was like, oh, really?
(33:17):
Is that what I
Hope Pedraza (33:17):
am?
Oh, I don't wanna be that.
Yeah.
That is also a valid response, amanifesting generator.
I'm like, no, that sounded likeit was the one you didn't wanna
be.
And then when I looked at it, Iwas like, oh yeah, okay.
Yes, I guess so.
Yeah.
Yes,
Dr Nat Green (33:33):
yes.
Hope Pedraza (33:35):
Yep.
Yep.
You know, and that's such acommon response.
I've had people ask that before.
Um, I did a workshop herelocally at a, like a women's.
Entrepreneur group, uh mm-hmm.
Earlier this year.
And somebody asked that question'cause she was like, I'm looking
at this and I really feel likeI'm this other one.
And I love that.
I love that question because itis such a perfect invitation for
(33:58):
you to see where yourconditioning is.
Where have you been conditionedto believe that that one is
actually you when it's not?
Yeah.
So it's such a, a really greatplace.
For growth, because then we cankind of untangle those pieces
and see like, oh, I've beenconditioned to operate in this
way.
It's actually not how I'mdesigned to operate.
So yeah, I love that.
Dr Nat Green (34:17):
Yes, it's interesting.
It's certainly an eye-opener,but I think such a valuable
tool.
Mm-hmm.
And.
People are talking about it moreand more, and I know it's been
around for ages, but I love theway that you are looking at
using that thank you, at adeeper level, and I think you
have so much value to offer.
So one more thing.
(34:39):
So do you think there's any onething that would help our
listeners as they navigatemoving from post-trauma?
Into post-traumatic growth.
What would be that one thingthat you could teach them or, or
share with them that would bemost helpful?
Hope Pedraza (35:00):
I think I've kind of mentioned this before, but I
think it's worth reiterating'cause I, I think we really
underestimate the power oflistening to our body.
Yes.
And I think it is such.
A, a powerful tool that all ofus have access to.
(35:20):
'cause we're all living in abody, but we're not taught.
Yeah, we're just not taught.
It's not something we're taught.
And I, I mean, again, as simpleas like, not the sexy answer
like people wanna hear, but itas simple as it as it sounds
like our bodies are so.
Incredibly designed, like wehave everything we need to heal
(35:44):
ourselves within us, like that.
We are just such powerful beingsand we are energetic beings and
people can see energy as woo orwhatever, but you cannot deny
the fact that we are energeticbeings.
I mean, there's equipment nowthat can measure our energetic
field, our aura, like there'sscientific, uh, technique or,
uh, equipment you can use tomeasure this.
So we know that.
(36:04):
So we have.
So much power available to uswithin our bodies, and we're
just, so many of us are just nottapped into that.
And so I think that that wouldbe my, my one thing is if you're
gonna spend your time and energydoing anything, it's just
listening to your body andlistening to the I call, I talk
to my clients about learning thelanguage of your body.
(36:26):
Because your, your body issending you signs and signals
all the time.
Sometimes it's a littlewhispers, sometimes it's
shouting and yelling at you, butthere is a language of your body
and only you know that language.
'cause that's, that happens toso many of my clients where
they've gone, especially goingthe convention medical route.
They're gaslit, they'redismissed.
Mm-hmm.
They're told, you know, it's allin your head where you're, you
(36:49):
know what's happening in yourbody better than any doc.
Don't care how smart a doctor orwhatever.
You know your body better thananybody.
So yeah, that would be, I feellike that's the most important
thing, is just learning thelanguage of your body and
listening to it.
Dr Nat Green (37:05):
That is the best gold nugget.
That is absolutely brilliantbecause exactly.
We all are alive in a body.
Mm-hmm.
So no one knows us better thanourselves.
Mm-hmm.
And you're so right.
And, and we might have a quickchat about this about, and you
would see it.
I see it a lot and I've beenthrough it myself and it's been
(37:27):
a conversation on recentepisodes about being gas lit.
That how many times do thepeople that come to see us, how
many times have they been toldit's in their head?
Many times have they, they keepgoing back and going back and
going back through that normalmedical route.
And it's that whole, no one'sgetting me the answers, but I
(37:51):
know something's wrong.
Mm-hmm.
Exactly.
Yeah.
So how do you help people whenthey're showing up like that?
Hope Pedraza (37:58):
Yeah.
Yeah.
And.
It's a tough, I mean, I wouldhonestly, I would say 99 of my
percent of my clients are inthat place.
Like, and that's why they'recoming to me.
'cause they're like, I've triedeverything else.
Mm-hmm.
I have literally triedeverything else and I still
can't find the answers.
And it, it is a hard place tobe.
'cause I know there's a lot ofskepticism involved and like,
(38:18):
how are you gonna be anydifferent?
But I think that, you know, I, II don't, how do I say this?
I don't, I try to bring thepoint across that I don't, I
don't wanna work with people whoare seeing me as their savior.
Like I'm not trying to be asavior for you and saving the
day.
Right.
I want to just be a guide tohelp you understand you.
(38:39):
And that's, that's the path tohealing.
Just, I just wanna help youunderstand you.
And so that's really theapproach I take with my clients.
And it's probably not gonna be aquick fix.
'cause I mean, I'm not in aboutquick fixes because quick fixes
never last.
So it's not gonna be a quickthing.
It's gonna be a process.
Sometimes it gets worse beforeit gets better.
So we have to keep that in mind.
(39:00):
The healing process is neverlinear, right?
So there's certain expectationsI wanna put out upfront, but the
fact is, if you are on the path,you're on the journey, you've
made a decision that.
Something is off and I wannafigure out what it is and fix
it, then you're gonna get thereeventually.
Like you've already made thedecision.
(39:20):
Yeah.
And so it, it really comes downto having that commitment,
having that intention, and then,and then I think it's just
trying something out of the boxand new, which for a lot of my
clients is the work that I do.
It's something I've never triedbefore, but I do think that it
is, it's not just the fact thatwhat they're doing, what I do
is.
Different than mostpractitioners, but it is that
(39:40):
energetic, emotional piece.
'cause that's usually the piecethat hasn't been addressed.
Mm.
And so it's, it's putting theright pieces together for you to
start seeing changes and healinghappening in the body too.
Dr Nat Green (39:54):
Mm.
I really love that approach andthat you're open and honest.
And because, as you said.
You know, you're their lastresort a lot of the time.
They've tried everything else,and I think being able to say,
well, how's that worked for youso far?
Right, exactly.
Given them hope that you cangive them something they haven't
(40:14):
tried.
Right.
They're at that point wherethey've been gaslit so much,
they've tried so many things,they will do anything pretty
much.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Which is a great place to be inlots of ways, but also.
Places them at risk of, well, itdidn't work straight away.
Right?
You didn't fix me.
(40:34):
Right?
So giving that realisticexpectation that it's a process.
Hope Pedraza (40:39):
Yeah.
Dr Nat Green (40:40):
As everything in our healings a process, as you
said, a couple of steps forwardand 10 steps back.
Mm-hmm.
But it's perseverance.
And the resilience.
Yes.
And that willingness to change.
I love that so much.
So as we move to wrapping upthis conversation, where can our
listeners who I know are gonnawanna find you, find you online
(41:01):
and connect with you?
Hope Pedraza (41:04):
So I'm on Instagram at theHopePedraza.
I'm most active on Instagram.
I'm on Facebook as well, butmost active on Instagram.
And then my website ishopefulandwholesome.com.
I have a podcast by the samename, hopeful and Wholesome.
And uh, yeah, so you can find methere.
I also have a YouTube channel.
You can find me, I Hope Pedrazaon YouTube as well.
Dr Nat Green (41:24):
Excellent, and I'll put all of those links in
the show notes.
And I know that you've also gota quiz, so well, I'll put that
in there.
Did you wanna let our listenersknow about your amazing
Hope Pedraza (41:36):
quiz?
Yes.
So I have the energy leaklocator quiz, which I love, and
I know you talk a lot aboutarchetypes so that I have some
little archetypes built into thequiz here.
But basically it's a quiz toshow you where your energy is
leaking.
So is it, uh, is it anemotional, energetic, I talk
about minerals.
I do a lot of mineral bouncing.
(41:57):
So we talk about mineral.
So I'm putting all the piecestogether in the quiz.
But for you to really uncover.
Where your energy is leaking.
I am a firm believer that it'sthe energy leaks, right?
That's what's causing ourphysical, uh, symptoms.
And so it gives you a goodpicture of where your energy is
leaking, what patterns andbeliefs are playing out in your
subconscious that are leading tothese energy leaks, and then
sends you a little, um, tool tohelp you start to reprogram some
(42:20):
of that.
Dr Nat Green (42:21):
Fantastic.
And I know our listeners andmyself love a good tool, so Oh
yeah.
Thank you so much.
I'll definitely put that in theshow notes as well.
And I always like to end theshow with one question.
Just wanted to ask, what do youthink your younger self would
think of what you are doing nowand what you've achieved?
(42:42):
Hmm.
I like that
Hope Pedraza (42:43):
question.
That's a good one.
I.
I think my younger self would bereally amazed at the level of
tenacity and resilience thatI've showed over the years.
I feel emotional talking aboutthat.
(43:04):
Um, I think that, and I thinkshe'd be really proud that I was
able to overcome so much and,you know.
I often feel sometimes, youknow, talk about, my things that
I've experienced in my life andI think, oh, people have, you
know, so many people have beenthrough so many worse things,
blah, blah, blah.
But, but I think, I think myyounger self would recognize
(43:24):
like all the things that I'vebeen through and be really proud
that I was able to grow and movepast it and not hold on to
resentment or.
Hmm.
Anger or any of those thingsthat I was able to, to walk
myself through it and growstronger and continue to move
towards my dreams and my goals.
Dr Nat Green (43:46):
Oh, how special.
That's beautiful.
And I got goosebumps as you saidthat.
Oh, thank you.
That's a message.
Absolutely.
And I think you are spot on.
Look how far you've come and howmuch growth you've done and what
you are now paying forward andhelping other people with.
So you're definitely on purpose.
(44:08):
Mm-hmm.
And have connected science andsoul perfectly.
So thank you so much for comingon and, and sharing your
knowledge and wisdom and yourstory with us.
Thank you, Nat.
Thanks so much for having me.
My pleasure.
I talk to you soon.
Bye for now.
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Bye for.
Welcome to the Growing Tall Poppies Podcast.
I'm your host, Dr.
Nat Green, and I'm so excited tohave you join me as we discuss
what it means to navigate yourway through post-traumatic
growth and not just survive, butto thrive after trauma.
(00:23):
Through our podcast, we willexplore ways for you to create a
life filled with greaterpurpose, self-awareness, and a
deep inner peace.
Through integrating the manyyears of knowledge and
professional experience, as wellas the wisdom of those who have
experienced trauma firsthand.
(00:44):
We'll combine psychologyaccelerated approaches.
Coaching and personal experienceto assist you, to learn, to grow
and to thrive.
I hope to empower you to createdeeper awareness and
understanding and strongerconnections with yourself and
with others, whilst also pavingthe way for those who have
(01:08):
experienced trauma and adversityto reduce their suffering and
become the very best versions ofthemselves.
In order to thrive.
Thank you so much for joining meon today's episode.
I'm super excited and gratefultoday to bring you our next
(01:28):
guest on the Growing TallPoppies podcast.
It's my absolute pleasure towelcome an amazing lady.
She has experienced some traumaand adversity throughout her
life and has agreed to come andchat to us today about both her
personal and professionalexperience and share her wisdom
with us.
So let me start by welcomingHope Pedraza.
(01:52):
Hope is a functional diagnostic,nutrition practitioner, human
design guide, clinicalhypnotherapist, and host of the
Hopeful and Wholesome podcast.
And let me tell you, it is anamazing podcast.
I've been binge listening to itlately.
I love it.
And she helps high performing,spiritually curious women
optimize their energy, rebalancetheir nervous system, and
(02:15):
reconnect with their body'swisdom.
So they can scale their businessand their life without burnout.
Her signature method blends,functional labs, human design,
embodiment, and subconsciousreprogramming to create
sustainable radiance from theinside out.
So welcome, Hope.
It's so great to have you here.
Hope Pedraza (02:35):
Thank you.
I'm so excited to be here andchat with you.
Dr Nat Green (02:40):
Alright, so you've got a wealth of experience and
knowledge and information toshare with us today.
I am super excited.
Could we start with you givingus a bit of a brief introduction
of who you are and what you aredoing in the world now?
Hope Pedraza (02:57):
Yeah, for sure.
So I am as a human.
I am, I'm a mom.
I have two littles.
I am a wife, I have husband, I'ma business owner and an
entrepreneur.
I have a brick and mortarPilates and fitness studio here.
I'm in the States and I'm inSouth Texas.
And then I also have my onlinebusiness where, as you
mentioned, I'm a functionalpractitioner.
(03:19):
The work that I do as afunctional practitioner is for
me, I, I just relish overanything of where science meets
soul.
And for me, that's the work thatI do with my clients is, you
know, yes, I'll run thefunctional labs and we'll do the
functional work and we'll talkabout nutrition and minerals and
labs and all those things.
But I am a firm believer thateverything physical happening on
(03:42):
the body has an energetic oremotional root cause.
And so.
As you mentioned in my bio, Itie in things like human design
and hypnotherapy and NLP andthese subconscious modalities
for us to really get to the rootcause, and this is my, the
evolution of my businesses hasbeen kind of in, in step with my
(04:04):
own personal evolution as I'veused these tools with myself and
recognizing like, oh, okay, it'snot just enough to think about
my diet or how much I'm workingout.
Like right, there's all thesedeep root layers.
So yeah, I've just been,especially over the past man,
over the past probably fiveyears, I feel like for a lot of
people, I know it's true for alot of people, COVID was like
this portal of just like reallyintense change and in a lot of
(04:28):
different ways.
And so I feel like it was likethat for me.
And the past few yearsespecially, have just been a
time of like growth andspiritual awakening and healing
and all the things.
Oh,
Dr Nat Green (04:41):
you're speaking my language in multiple layers
there as you introduced allthese things.
And as you know, I, I love NLP.
That's, that's my preferredmodality, and I just think that
we get so much.
Movement with our clients whenwe're doing the accelerated
(05:02):
processes using NLP in a healthyand helpful way.
We know that there's some peoplethat have used it not so well
and that's given it a bad wrap alot of the time.
But the functional medicinestuff and looking at people as a
whole is so important.
'cause a lot of our listeners,as I was saying to you before we
(05:23):
started.
Present with invisibleillnesses, chronic health
conditions, autoimmunedisorders, and.
I love that you are able toreally see the person as a whole
and get to the root cause.
So tell us a bit more about thatwork that you do.
'cause I love
Hope Pedraza (05:43):
Yeah, yeah.
No, I love it too.
And I mean, as I said, it isjust the how I got.
The work that I'm doing now hasjust been this constant
evolution.
So when I, when I first startedmy brick and mortar studio, my
business, I wanted to createthis one stop shop.
You can get everything you wantin one place.
And so, you know, we havePilates and fitness and
meditation, yoga, you know, allthe things.
(06:04):
And so I started with just basicnutrition coaching and women.
I was working.
Only women at the time, and theywere coming to me for basic
things, right?
It's what most of'em are like,oh, I wanna drop 10 pounds or
something like that.
But when I'm, I was havingconversations with these women,
this is kind of when at somepoint a light bulb went off
where I'm thinking, okay, what'sreally going on in your body?
(06:25):
Requires a deeper conversationthan just talking about calories
and macros because that waskinda the extent of it.
And so I'm recognizing you.
There's gut issues, there'shormone issues, there's thyroid
issues.
Like I was, I was recognized.
There's all these deeper things.
So that sent me down the path tobecome a functional
practitioner.
And you know, I did a lot ofwork on myself and I went
through a period of really badadrenal burnout, so help heal my
(06:46):
body.
But then I was recognizing,okay, well these specific things
keep flaring up.
And what's up with that?
And so this is when Irecognized, okay, like there's
some energetic things in mybody.
There's like emotional things Iwas holding onto and mm-hmm.
And you talk about this a lot onyour show, like we hold on to a
lot of these emotions that, thatare experienced during, you
know, our trauma Big T or littlet And that was the part that I
(07:09):
hadn't addressed yet.
And so I, this is when I kind ofput all these other pieces
together and I, I brought insome more modalities and did
some more certifications andtrainings and all that.
And I think that.
You know, the, the people thatcome to work with me, they've
been to other practitioners alot of times, other functional
practitioners.
Mm.
They've maybe gone theconventional medical route, but
(07:31):
it's either they, they can't getthe relief that they're really
looking for.
They haven't got, like, they canfeel some relief, but it's like,
well, I know that there's,there's an optimal available for
me that I'm not able to get to.
Right.
It's like just outta reach.
Yeah.
And a lot of times they haven'thad results at all.
It's like, oh, like they give mea diagnosis and they just wanna
gimme a bunch of stuff, butthey're not really helping me
(07:51):
heal.
Like I don't want a bandaidsolution.
Right?
Dr Nat Green (07:54):
Mm-hmm.
Hope Pedraza (07:54):
And so for me, this is where all of this work
comes in and diving into theenergetic body and helping them
understand themselves, thatthat's the big, a really big
piece for me.
Is, I want every person who Iwork with to really understand
their body.
'cause it's one thing forsomebody to just tell you, oh,
do this.
And they, you know, they giveyou a, a protocol like, you
know, go do this and take thesethings.
I want you to actuallyunderstand what's going on.
(08:16):
Here's what's going on in yourphysical body.
Here's how your energetic bodyis designed to function.
Here is why there's a disconnectand why you're experiencing
these things.
So you have, like, you'reequipping yourself and with the
tools.
So now you're resourced.
And so now when you have a flareup or whatever, you have the
tools to help, but it all comesdown to really understanding
(08:36):
yourself at that energetic leveland understanding.
The role that emotions play inour physical health.
Dr Nat Green (08:45):
Yes.
I love that so much.
Oh, I can so relate because Ihave autoimmune conditions.
I think I'm gonna book in for asession or two or 10.
You'll go off.
I think you're a year's worth ofwork for me Nat
Hope Pedraza (09:01):
I am happy to take it.
Dr Nat Green (09:03):
I'll be booking in, I think.
I just know that I, you know,the autoimmune conditions and I.
Went down, you know, what'sgoing on, what's going on.
I've done the healing, I've donethe emotional stuff, but there's
more, but mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Anyway, enough.
Enough about me.
I could just think.
There are so many of ourlisteners who have the same
things.
They reach out and they say,I've got this condition and I've
(09:26):
seen this doctor and anintegrative doctor and this
specialist, and, and they're notgetting the answers.
So I love that you are lookingdeeper at that energetic.
Process within our body, becausethat often gets missed.
Mm-hmm.
Particularly in, you know, ournormal medical model that we
have here.
(09:46):
Right.
Right.
'cause yeah.
Functional practitioners are sofew and far between here.
Certainly accessible ones.
Hope Pedraza (09:54):
Sure.
Yeah.
For sure.
Yeah, I mean, I, I think that'sthe, that is the big piece
that's missing because.
It's one thing to, that's,that's the thing with root
cause, like we talk about rootcause and a lot of times we can
look at it from a strictlyfunctional perspective and say,
okay, the root cause is us, youknow, doing these functional
(10:15):
labs and then we can see, youknow, what's happened in your
body to make your thyroid actthis way.
Or you know, why your autoimmunethings happen this way.
But for me, it's one thing tosay, oh, your cortisol is doing
this, your hormones are doingthis, your gut's doing this.
Well, what's happeningenergetically, that's making
your cortisol do that.
Exactly What is programmedenergetically to make your gut
do that.
(10:35):
Like that's, that's the deeperroot cause that, that I wanna
get down to the bottom of,
Dr Nat Green (10:40):
I love it.
I think people are gonna beknocking down your door.
Yeah.
So as we know, the guests that Iget on here.
Have experienced trauma oradversity in their life.
And so we talk a little bitabout that and I'm happy for you
to share as much or as little asyou like.
(11:00):
So I'm just wondering if youcould give us an overview of
what has happened for you inyour life that led you to
wanting to get to your rootcause?
Hope Pedraza (11:09):
Yeah, yeah.
No, that's a great question.
Uh, I, there's so much surewhere to start.
I feel like the past, like.
Probably 10 years.
The last decade has probablybeen the most, like when the
most has happened, and it hasbeen the most transformational.
But then, but then there's theseother pieces too that tie into,
(11:31):
you know, things that I've dealtwith.
So in the past 10 years.
I mean, I've gone throughdivorce, I've gone through
bankruptcy, I've gone throughlawsuits.
I've gone through watching mydad die.
I watched my dad's healthdecline and literally watching
him die, like I've been through,uh, having kids and, you know,
life transitions and all.
Like, there's so much that hashappened in the past decade and.
(11:54):
All of that has shaped, youknow, my energetic emotional
landscape and of things thatI've had to work through.
And then I think that the otherpiece that was kind of before
that was, and, and I didn'trecognize this, I was working
with, um, like a spiritualbusiness coach.
I think it was like right whenCOVID hit, so probably around
(12:15):
2020 when a lot of this startedhitting me, recognizing that
there was a lot of, you've toldme talk, I'm, I dunno if you've
talked deeply about this, butabout religious trauma and how
that has shaped who I am and nowgranted I wasn't, I know there's
levels to that too.
Like I wasn't in a cult.
I guess that's might bedebatable for some people, but
the, but just the.
(12:37):
The teachings that wereingrained in me from, I mean,
from birth, that affected andshaped my sense of self and my
self-worth.
Mm-hmm.
My confidence, my value, my selfis like all of those things.
And there's so many people, Imean, that's still, honestly,
that's still a work in progressfor me.
Like there's layers, like youwere talking about layers.
There's layers of these thingsthat come up and I'm, you know,
(12:58):
now I, I feel like I've.
You know, I've grown so muchwhere I can be a little bit more
curious about it.
Like, huh, that's interesting.
Mm-hmm.
Like, why am I getting triggeredby that thing?
Or like, why is that thingbothering me?
And this other layer comes out?
And so it's, it's just, there'sso much to unpack there, but,
but I think that that kind ofbeing tucked under the surface
(13:19):
and then dealing with all thoseother traumas over the past
decade has just really, yeah.
Been part of my healing journey.
Dr Nat Green (13:26):
Hmm.
Thank you for being so open andsharing that.
So again, so many layers and alot of that, like someone would
hear that and go, oh my God, youknow, one of those is bad
enough, but to have multiplelayers.
But it's interesting that asthose layers have peeled away
and you've worked through those,that underlying layer that may
(13:50):
have shaped all of that hasshown itself now.
So yeah.
I think those things are reallyimportant, that when we go
through trauma, it's not a oneand done and the layers show
themselves when we're ready.
Mm-hmm.
To see them, to feel them, toprocess them.
Yeah, that's exactly it.
(14:12):
So it's interesting though, thatyour journey took you to, you
were way ahead of the game intrying to get to the root cause
and uncover that and do thehealing.
So you were healing yourself asyou found out more.
Mm-hmm.
To then be able to deal with theunderlying thing.
And I think, you know, religionplays a part in, in a lot of
(14:33):
people's lives at varyinglevels, and some people are so
anti because of what they'vegone through.
Hope Pedraza (14:38):
Right.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Dr Nat Green (14:40):
Yeah.
It shapes so much of who we areand our values.
So when you look back, what werethe biggest turning points for
you with your traumas, do youthink?
Hope Pedraza (14:55):
I think I, I really think that my divorce was
kind of the catalyst for.
Everything else And that, thatone happened probably, yeah,
that one happened first becauseall the other things happened
after that.
So my divorce, yeah, my divorcehappened in 2012 and that was, I
(15:16):
mean, that was like, I.
Like earth shattering for me,because again, growing up in
very conservative religion, theworst possible thing you could
do was get divorced.
Like, oh, you're for sure goingto hell now.
Like you got divorced.
Yeah.
So it was, I mean, there was somuch shame and guilt attached to
that and so much like, you know,I also type a perfectionist is
(15:38):
like, well, I'm a failure.
Like I'm a total failure.
And even though.
Not saying I'd not played a partin any of the divorce, but like
he, there was infidelity andthere was a whole thing.
So I think that was probably thebreaking point for me.
And I had a friend at the time.
And it's funny to think abouthow people come into your life
for a brief moment and thenthey're gone because at some
(15:59):
point we lost touch and I, Ihave no idea where she is, but
it was, it's like the universejust puts people where they need
to be at the right time, youknow?
So I had this friend at thetime, and I mean, I was just
devastated and like, I don'tknow what to do with myself and
I don't know what to do.
You know, you when you grow up.
I grew up in the south.
The United States, so it'scalled the Bible Belt.
And you, you follow the order ofthings and you go to school and
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you get married and you havekids and you, right?
And so now it's like, well, whatam I gonna do now?
Like the timeline is all messedup.
And so I had a friend at thetime and she told me, she said,
you, I understand.
Like there's a grieving processthat has to happen here.
She's like, but you havecompletely your identity.
Is so tied up in that marriagewhat we used to be, that you
(16:46):
have completely lost your senseof self.
Yeah.
She's like, the reason you're sodevastated is because you don't
even know who you are outsideof.
That.
Yes.
And I was so harsh and so I wasso offended at the time, but
then recognizing like she wasabsolutely right.
I, that identity was tied upand, and I didn't know who I was
(17:06):
and had my own opinions andbeliefs about Right.
It was so that, that was a hugemoment for me and I think that
was such a, the beginning ofsuch a huge amount of growth of
me.
Discovering myself maybe for thefirst time, like what I liked
and didn't like and what Ibelieve my beliefs and my values
about things, and recognizingthat I was allowed to have own
(17:29):
opinions about things thatdidn't have to align with, you
know, how it was raised andright.
So, yeah, I would say that wasreally the portal for the rest
of it.
Dr Nat Green (17:39):
Yeah.
Which makes complete sensebecause your whole identity had
been shattered.
A hundred percent.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And a hundred percent, as yousaid, everything, the way you
were raised, everything aboutwho you were and who you were
believed to be safe, people wasgone.
(18:00):
Yeah.
Yeah.
So in one, you know, quickmoment, it's like, bang, who am
I now?
And I've lost everything.
Exactly.
So I completely get it.
Your identity shifted and had toshift, or you would've been
stuck in the distress attachedto that trauma?
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
(18:21):
Wow.
So when you look back at that,how do you think you have
changed and your identity haschanged as a result of that
because of what you've beenthrough?
Hope Pedraza (18:35):
I Mean, I am a hundred percent totally a
different person than I was backthen in, in a lot of different
ways.
And you know, like you weresaying, how, these traumas kind
of shape you and it, it can kindof prepare you for the next
thing.
And so, you know, I, I've dealtwith a lot over the past since
then, right?
My, my dad got super sick and,you know, there's that whole
(18:56):
thing and watched my dad die andthen bankruptcy lawsuits, all
these things.
So I do feel like there was.
By basically being forced intothis self-discovery journey by
default.
Like, well, now I have to figureout who I am because I clearly
didn't know before this.
That really prepared, paved thepath for me for this, the, the
(19:19):
last, you know, however manyyears of, of growth that I've
had.
And so I think that.
Understanding myself.
And again, this is multilayered'cause I think the other thing
that happened, so this, there'sstill, I mean this is like kind
of a trauma thing too.
I grew up, as mentioned, I wastype A perfectionist.
I had disordered eating behaviorfor a very long time.
Mm-hmm.
And so kind of at this.
(19:41):
When the divorce happened andall this growth was happening at
the same time, I was, I, I kindof used that to help heal my
body image and my, that kind ofstuff.
So this is all happening at thesame time.
So there was this sense of thisnew found sense of self-worth
and confidence andself-awareness.
(20:04):
That kind of came up from this,and that really kind of led me
into, I mean, it led me into thework that it, I, I don't know.
I mean, I don't know.
You never know what would'vehappened, but I just think about
like what I'm doing now.
And me like having the courageto quit my job.
I mean, I had like a regular,like I use air quotes here, like
a real job.
Yeah.
Right before I decided to be abusiness owner.
(20:24):
And so I think about that, likemaybe I wouldn't have had the
courage to quit my job that hadbenefits and insurance and all
the things right.
To go do that.
So it's, yeah, it allowed me to,to like, I, I, I think too, and
this is really the past fewyears, has really been a huge
piece of the, uh, a huge area ofgrowth for me, but really
listening to my intuition.
(20:45):
Like that was a really big piecefor me too, and really tuning
into that and, and, and learningthat about myself.
'cause I think I had, well Iknow I did.
I don't think I know that I hadpushed that away for so long
because of the religious thingyeah.
You live this way and you thinkthis way and you do things this
way.
Mm-hmm.
And so you kind of quiet yourown.
(21:07):
Right.
Your inner, inner voice, innercompass and yeah.
So that's, that's been a bigbreakthrough for me too.
Hmm.
Dr Nat Green (21:14):
Yes.
Thank you for sharing that.
So as you look at all the thingsand all the layers that have
peeled away, do you thinkthere's any specific qualities
or personal attributes that youhave seen as being key for
moving from trauma intoposttraumatic growth in yourself
(21:35):
and in other people?
People that you work with?
Mm-hmm.
Hope Pedraza (21:38):
Yeah, I think, I think there's a couple things.
I think that.
There's, there's a resiliency Ithink that's required.
Mm-hmm.
And I, that one, I think there,it's like a combination of
nature and nurture.
'cause I, I, I often think aboutthat.
Is it nature versus nurture?
I think it's a combination ofthose, the resiliency.
(21:59):
I do think that some people.
And I mean, I, I believe in likeold souls and past lives, so I
do think that sometimes that'sjust our soul contract that
we're meant to go throughthrough certain things.
And some people have lived liveswhere they've been able to go
through more things so they canhandle things in a different
way.
Dr Nat Green (22:13):
Mm-hmm.
Hope Pedraza (22:14):
So, so I do think that's, there's some nature
versus and nurture that is wellthere, but I think there's a
sense of resiliency.
And I think the other thing is,what's the word I'm looking for?
This sense of.
Optimism is the word that'scoming in.
I don't know if that's exactlythe word that I wanna use, but,
but that's what I'm gonna gowith.
(22:35):
But it's this sense of optimismthat there is more available,
like there is more available.
And I think that's the mindsetthat I've always taken.
And now granted, I probablywouldn't have had this mindset
before this, but with my owngrowth and spiritual growth and
all that, I.
I have these desires in my soul,right?
(22:57):
I talk a lot about purpose on myshow.
I have these desires in my soul,and I believe that they would
not be there if they weren'tmeant for me, like God,
universe, whatever, would nothave put them there if they
weren't meant for me.
And so I have to believe thatthere's more available and that
there is more to come.
And so I think that's themindset that I've taken through.
(23:19):
All of the things.
Dr Nat Green (23:20):
Mm-hmm.
Hope Pedraza (23:21):
And, um, like the COVID times is really hard for
me.
That's where it kind of, there'sa lot going on with bankruptcy
and lawsuits on this stuff, andthat was just kind of my, and I
was sick and pregnant at thetime.
It was just like perfect time tobe pregnant.
But that was kind of my mindsetto get me through that, where I
have this fire in my soul to dothis thing.
I have this, so I know it'smeant for me.
(23:42):
So I just have to keepbelieving.
That just, if I keep taking onestep after another that I'm on
the right path, I'm gonna, I'mgonna get there.
Dr Nat Green (23:51):
Love that.
So how do you like, you knowthat you've got that fire in
your soul and when you talkedabout it, you lit up and I could
see that and, and when you'vetalked about all the things that
you've done as you've exploredthis, I'm just wondering how do
you know you are connecting withyour purpose and how do you stay
(24:12):
on track?
Hope Pedraza (24:13):
Hmm.
I think for me, for me, really,it's just.
It's how I feel in my body.
And this has been also been awork in progress.
You know, we talked on my show,we talked about, you know, how
people kind of disconnect thebody from the mind and we stay
up in the mind a lot.
And that's been a really bigarea of growth since, you know,
(24:37):
in that post-traumatic growthfor me is, is really tuning into
my body.
And, it's also the intuitionthing, right?
I, I can recognize.
The difference between, most ofthe time, I don't wanna say it
perfect, but for the majority ofthe time mm-hmm.
I can recognize the differencebetween fear and intuition.
Right.
Am I making this decision outtafear or is it my intuition?
(24:58):
And, and I can feel in my body,I've done so much somatic work
to, to get into my body andlisten to my body.
And so for me, that's what itis.
It's just, it's how does it feelin my body when I'm making a
decision, when I'm deciding todo something I know in my body,
if it's a.
Lift.
If it's a lightness, if it's anexpansion, expansive feeling in
the body, then I know I'm goingin the right path.
(25:19):
If it's a restriction, acontraction constriction, a
heaviness, then I know it's not.
So it's, for me, it's justtuning into my body and letting
that lead the way.
Dr Nat Green (25:31):
Yes.
And, and as we know, a lot ofpeople when they've been through
trauma, struggle to tune in withtheir body.
Mm-hmm.
A disconnect because.
They're not who they used to be.
So they're not really familiarwith the fact that they're
feeling these new things orthey've shut down their capacity
to feel and they're not in tunewith their gut.
(25:54):
So what would be one way thatyou help someone you work with
to tune in with themselves?
Hope Pedraza (26:03):
Yeah, I think it, it is tricky and I think for me.
Especially after my divorce, andthat was such like an earth
shattering moment for me.
I, I didn't know how to tuneinto my body because, because
then I'm like, I doubted myselflike, well, I clearly made the
wrong decision, so how do I evertrust myself again?
(26:23):
Like this wasn't right.
And so I, I think there's acouple parts of that.
I think first of all, there'sthe perspective of.
Like, I don't believe, I don'treally believe that God or the
universe tests us, but I dothink that there are initiations
that happen because we ask formore and it requires an
initiation for us to get, like,to be able to get to that next
(26:46):
level for more.
So I think having thatperspective where it doesn't
necessarily mean you made thewrong decision, it's like, okay,
this is, this is kind of, Imean, I guess you could say it's
a test.
I don't, I don't see it thatway, but this is a moment.
Where you're able to, um, likeput on display your resiliency
and your, like all of thesethings that, these, these tools
(27:06):
that you have, right?
And so you're able to, to, tomove past it in that way.
So I think there's that piece.
I think the other piece is goingdirectly back to your question
is to help people get into theirbody.
And you, you mentioned this apractice that you use in talking
about a body scan.
And I, I think I, I pretty muchdo something similar where.
Um, you know, I, I use hypnosisin my practice, and so if you,
(27:28):
you know, we can get into thehypnotic state and talk to the
subconscious mind, then we canget into the body and it's just,
it's just allowing people tofeel sensations in their body.
And it's, it's, it's a bodyscan.
It's a, it's a tuning in.
It's a, and you know, I, I workwith human design.
When I talk about authority,which is how you make decisions,
(27:49):
all of these are body-based, andthat's a big, that's a big way
too.
So I, I help them understandwhat their authority is, how
they best make decisions, andthen we use that like, okay, how
do we tune into this specificpart of the body where you're
designed to make decisions andhow we can we.
Feel that, and it just takespractice.
It takes practice to turn offyour mind.
'cause that's what happensfirst.
'cause your mind wants to getall in it and like start getting
(28:11):
into the this.
Like, no, let's turn the mindoff.
So that's a big part of it.
And then can you just feel yourbody?
And I have the, the first thing,if my clients are coming to me,
and this is like a completelyforeign concept, which isn't
always the case.
I have some clients who are veryin tune with their body and they
can, you know.
Mm-hmm.
But some of my clients.
Like a foreign concept.
So I have, okay.
Can you just take three timesduring the day, sometime in the
(28:35):
morning, like maybe right whenyou wake up sometime in the
middle of the day and thensometime in the evening and just
do a quick check-in.
Check with your body, quick bodyscan.
How, how do I feel?
Does anything, is there pain,sharpness, tension, whatever,
like, but doing that at threedifferent parts of the day
allows them to, A, they'retaking the time to do it and
actually have that, like makingit a practice to an enter their
(28:58):
body and listen.
Mm-hmm.
But a lot of times too.
You might feel great in themorning, but feel terrible in
the evening, but you're like,but then you'll tell me like, oh
no, I feel great.
When you're doing thesecheck-ins, you recognize, oh,
there's parts there where Idon't feel great and, and you're
building that practice of tuninginto your body.
So just those quick littlecheck-ins.
It sounds so simplistic, and itis, I mean, it's very simple,
(29:20):
but just starting that practice,you're making yourself tune into
your body, listen to your body,and you start to build that
relationship with yourself.
Dr Nat Green (29:28):
Mm.
Hope Pedraza (29:28):
Where you can, your, now your, your body and
your mind can start to talk toeach other.
Dr Nat Green (29:34):
Oh, I love that so much.
Because you're right.
How often do you know we see aclient and how are you?
I'm good.
And how is your day, my good daywas great because they've taken
that one little bit where it wasokay.
Mm-hmm.
And they think that's whatthey've gotta tell you.
Yep.
Not about.
The other parts that were shitand really weren't great that
(29:56):
exactly that they've forgottenabout or they've skimmed over
because then it changed.
So I think that, and being ableto then keep track of that and
share that as well helps you geta better picture mm-hmm.
Of what's really been going onfor them for the day.
So I love that.
And I know.
I've done a bit on human design,but not a huge amount.
(30:19):
So I'd love you to tell us alittle bit more about that.
'cause I know it's your love andpassion.
Hope Pedraza (30:24):
Yeah, I do.
I love human design and it'sbeen such, this, that really
been such a crucial tool for meand the post-traumatic growth
process.
Um, so human design isessentially your energetic
blueprint, your soul's energeticblueprint.
So it's how your energy isdesigned to operate.
And it puts together someancient teachings like the, the
chakra system, which I'm sure alot of people are familiar with,
(30:46):
the chakra system.
Mm-hmm.
Astrology, the Cabo Tree ofLife, ITing.
And it puts it together withsome modern day sciences, like
quantum mechanics and quantumphysics and neuroscience, and it
puts it together into thischart.
Mm-hmm.
Dr Nat Green (30:56):
And
Hope Pedraza (30:56):
so, as I mentioned before, I love anything at the,
the intersection of science andsoul, and human design is like,
I mean, that's.
That's the essence of it.
Perfect, isn't it?
Yeah.
And yes.
Yes.
And, and there's like, you canget really sciencey, but like
there's this whole part aboutneutrinos, which are these
subatomic particles that can,uh, affect our DNA.
So like there's this wholesciencey part of it, but that
sciencey part aside, justlooking at it.
(31:18):
At base level, it helps youunderstand your energy.
And so it's how you're designedto make decisions, how you're
designed to respond to the worldaround you and, and other
people.
Um, I can see things like howyou're designed to digest food
and information around you andenergy around you.
Wow.
It's how your energy is flowingthrough your different energy
(31:38):
centers, so how it affects yourdifferent organs in the body or
different organ systems.
And so there's so much to lookat and for me it was such a.
Crucial healing tool because ithelped me understand me at a
really deep level.
Dr Nat Green (31:53):
Hmm.
Hope Pedraza (31:53):
And it gave me, it was super validating, first of
all, like seeing it andrecognizing there was a lot of
pieces that I've tried to, youknow, shove aside or push down
or argue away.
Like, no, that's not me, where Ican see it now.
Like, oh, this, I'm, I'mdesigned to operate this way.
Like this is me.
People might have heard thisbefore, people call like, oh,
(32:15):
you know, it's such a, it's apermission slip.
And that's really what it feltlike for me because there are so
many parts of me that I, I didfeel like I was trying to change
or shove aside or fight it downor whatever.
And.
I could see now, like, no, I wasdivinely designed this way.
This is how I'm designed tooperate.
And so that, it just reallyallowed me to see me at that
(32:37):
level and to be able to live mylife more authentically and true
to me.
And, and that's, I mean, that'show it's helped me moving
forward as well.
And just understanding my energyand how it's designed to operate
and how I'm designed to be hereon this planet.
Dr Nat Green (32:56):
I really love how you've.
Layered on all the amazing, thefunctional stuff that you do
into that as well.
I've not heard that done withhuman design, so that is really
of interest.
I remember doing the humandesign many years ago with one
of my mentors.
And I was like, oh, really?
(33:17):
Is that what I
Hope Pedraza (33:17):
am?
Oh, I don't wanna be that.
Yeah.
That is also a valid response, amanifesting generator.
I'm like, no, that sounded likeit was the one you didn't wanna
be.
And then when I looked at it, Iwas like, oh yeah, okay.
Yes, I guess so.
Yeah.
Yes,
Dr Nat Green (33:33):
yes.
Hope Pedraza (33:35):
Yep.
Yep.
You know, and that's such acommon response.
I've had people ask that before.
Um, I did a workshop herelocally at a, like a women's.
Entrepreneur group, uh mm-hmm.
Earlier this year.
And somebody asked that question'cause she was like, I'm looking
at this and I really feel likeI'm this other one.
And I love that.
I love that question because itis such a perfect invitation for
(33:58):
you to see where yourconditioning is.
Where have you been conditionedto believe that that one is
actually you when it's not?
Yeah.
So it's such a, a really greatplace.
For growth, because then we cankind of untangle those pieces
and see like, oh, I've beenconditioned to operate in this
way.
It's actually not how I'mdesigned to operate.
So yeah, I love that.
Dr Nat Green (34:17):
Yes, it's interesting.
It's certainly an eye-opener,but I think such a valuable
tool.
Mm-hmm.
And.
People are talking about it moreand more, and I know it's been
around for ages, but I love theway that you are looking at
using that thank you, at adeeper level, and I think you
have so much value to offer.
So one more thing.
(34:39):
So do you think there's any onething that would help our
listeners as they navigatemoving from post-trauma?
Into post-traumatic growth.
What would be that one thingthat you could teach them or, or
share with them that would bemost helpful?
Hope Pedraza (35:00):
I think I've kind of mentioned this before, but I
think it's worth reiterating'cause I, I think we really
underestimate the power oflistening to our body.
Yes.
And I think it is such.
A, a powerful tool that all ofus have access to.
(35:20):
'cause we're all living in abody, but we're not taught.
Yeah, we're just not taught.
It's not something we're taught.
And I, I mean, again, as simpleas like, not the sexy answer
like people wanna hear, but itas simple as it as it sounds
like our bodies are so.
Incredibly designed, like wehave everything we need to heal
(35:44):
ourselves within us, like that.
We are just such powerful beingsand we are energetic beings and
people can see energy as woo orwhatever, but you cannot deny
the fact that we are energeticbeings.
I mean, there's equipment nowthat can measure our energetic
field, our aura, like there'sscientific, uh, technique or,
uh, equipment you can use tomeasure this.
So we know that.
(36:04):
So we have.
So much power available to uswithin our bodies, and we're
just, so many of us are just nottapped into that.
And so I think that that wouldbe my, my one thing is if you're
gonna spend your time and energydoing anything, it's just
listening to your body andlistening to the I call, I talk
to my clients about learning thelanguage of your body.
(36:26):
Because your, your body issending you signs and signals
all the time.
Sometimes it's a littlewhispers, sometimes it's
shouting and yelling at you, butthere is a language of your body
and only you know that language.
'cause that's, that happens toso many of my clients where
they've gone, especially goingthe convention medical route.
They're gaslit, they'redismissed.
Mm-hmm.
They're told, you know, it's allin your head where you're, you
(36:49):
know what's happening in yourbody better than any doc.
Don't care how smart a doctor orwhatever.
You know your body better thananybody.
So yeah, that would be, I feellike that's the most important
thing, is just learning thelanguage of your body and
listening to it.
Dr Nat Green (37:05):
That is the best gold nugget.
That is absolutely brilliantbecause exactly.
We all are alive in a body.
Mm-hmm.
So no one knows us better thanourselves.
Mm-hmm.
And you're so right.
And, and we might have a quickchat about this about, and you
would see it.
I see it a lot and I've beenthrough it myself and it's been
(37:27):
a conversation on recentepisodes about being gas lit.
That how many times do thepeople that come to see us, how
many times have they been toldit's in their head?
Many times have they, they keepgoing back and going back and
going back through that normalmedical route.
And it's that whole, no one'sgetting me the answers, but I
(37:51):
know something's wrong.
Mm-hmm.
Exactly.
Yeah.
So how do you help people whenthey're showing up like that?
Hope Pedraza (37:58):
Yeah.
Yeah.
And.
It's a tough, I mean, I wouldhonestly, I would say 99 of my
percent of my clients are inthat place.
Like, and that's why they'recoming to me.
'cause they're like, I've triedeverything else.
Mm-hmm.
I have literally triedeverything else and I still
can't find the answers.
And it, it is a hard place tobe.
'cause I know there's a lot ofskepticism involved and like,
(38:18):
how are you gonna be anydifferent?
But I think that, you know, I, II don't, how do I say this?
I don't, I try to bring thepoint across that I don't, I
don't wanna work with people whoare seeing me as their savior.
Like I'm not trying to be asavior for you and saving the
day.
Right.
I want to just be a guide tohelp you understand you.
(38:39):
And that's, that's the path tohealing.
Just, I just wanna help youunderstand you.
And so that's really theapproach I take with my clients.
And it's probably not gonna be aquick fix.
'cause I mean, I'm not in aboutquick fixes because quick fixes
never last.
So it's not gonna be a quickthing.
It's gonna be a process.
Sometimes it gets worse beforeit gets better.
So we have to keep that in mind.
(39:00):
The healing process is neverlinear, right?
So there's certain expectationsI wanna put out upfront, but the
fact is, if you are on the path,you're on the journey, you've
made a decision that.
Something is off and I wannafigure out what it is and fix
it, then you're gonna get thereeventually.
Like you've already made thedecision.
(39:20):
Yeah.
And so it, it really comes downto having that commitment,
having that intention, and then,and then I think it's just
trying something out of the boxand new, which for a lot of my
clients is the work that I do.
It's something I've never triedbefore, but I do think that it
is, it's not just the fact thatwhat they're doing, what I do
is.
Different than mostpractitioners, but it is that
(39:40):
energetic, emotional piece.
'cause that's usually the piecethat hasn't been addressed.
Mm.
And so it's, it's putting theright pieces together for you to
start seeing changes and healinghappening in the body too.
Dr Nat Green (39:54):
Mm.
I really love that approach andthat you're open and honest.
And because, as you said.
You know, you're their lastresort a lot of the time.
They've tried everything else,and I think being able to say,
well, how's that worked for youso far?
Right, exactly.
Given them hope that you cangive them something they haven't
(40:14):
tried.
Right.
They're at that point wherethey've been gaslit so much,
they've tried so many things,they will do anything pretty
much.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Which is a great place to be inlots of ways, but also.
Places them at risk of, well, itdidn't work straight away.
Right?
You didn't fix me.
(40:34):
Right?
So giving that realisticexpectation that it's a process.
Hope Pedraza (40:39):
Yeah.
Dr Nat Green (40:40):
As everything in our healings a process, as you
said, a couple of steps forwardand 10 steps back.
Mm-hmm.
But it's perseverance.
And the resilience.
Yes.
And that willingness to change.
I love that so much.
So as we move to wrapping upthis conversation, where can our
listeners who I know are gonnawanna find you, find you online
(41:01):
and connect with you?
Hope Pedraza (41:04):
So I'm on Instagram at theHopePedraza.
I'm most active on Instagram.
I'm on Facebook as well, butmost active on Instagram.
And then my website ishopefulandwholesome.com.
I have a podcast by the samename, hopeful and Wholesome.
And uh, yeah, so you can find methere.
I also have a YouTube channel.
You can find me, I Hope Pedrazaon YouTube as well.
Dr Nat Green (41:24):
Excellent, and I'll put all of those links in
the show notes.
And I know that you've also gota quiz, so well, I'll put that
in there.
Did you wanna let our listenersknow about your amazing
Hope Pedraza (41:36):
quiz?
Yes.
So I have the energy leaklocator quiz, which I love, and
I know you talk a lot aboutarchetypes so that I have some
little archetypes built into thequiz here.
But basically it's a quiz toshow you where your energy is
leaking.
So is it, uh, is it anemotional, energetic, I talk
about minerals.
I do a lot of mineral bouncing.
(41:57):
So we talk about mineral.
So I'm putting all the piecestogether in the quiz.
But for you to really uncover.
Where your energy is leaking.
I am a firm believer that it'sthe energy leaks, right?
That's what's causing ourphysical, uh, symptoms.
And so it gives you a goodpicture of where your energy is
leaking, what patterns andbeliefs are playing out in your
subconscious that are leading tothese energy leaks, and then
sends you a little, um, tool tohelp you start to reprogram some
(42:20):
of that.
Dr Nat Green (42:21):
Fantastic.
And I know our listeners andmyself love a good tool, so Oh
yeah.
Thank you so much.
I'll definitely put that in theshow notes as well.
And I always like to end theshow with one question.
Just wanted to ask, what do youthink your younger self would
think of what you are doing nowand what you've achieved?
(42:42):
Hmm.
I like that
Hope Pedraza (42:43):
question.
That's a good one.
I.
I think my younger self would bereally amazed at the level of
tenacity and resilience thatI've showed over the years.
I feel emotional talking aboutthat.
(43:04):
Um, I think that, and I thinkshe'd be really proud that I was
able to overcome so much and,you know.
I often feel sometimes, youknow, talk about, my things that
I've experienced in my life andI think, oh, people have, you
know, so many people have beenthrough so many worse things,
blah, blah, blah.
But, but I think, I think myyounger self would recognize
(43:24):
like all the things that I'vebeen through and be really proud
that I was able to grow and movepast it and not hold on to
resentment or.
Hmm.
Anger or any of those thingsthat I was able to, to walk
myself through it and growstronger and continue to move
towards my dreams and my goals.
Dr Nat Green (43:46):
Oh, how special.
That's beautiful.
And I got goosebumps as you saidthat.
Oh, thank you.
That's a message.
Absolutely.
And I think you are spot on.
Look how far you've come and howmuch growth you've done and what
you are now paying forward andhelping other people with.
So you're definitely on purpose.
(44:08):
Mm-hmm.
And have connected science andsoul perfectly.
So thank you so much for comingon and, and sharing your
knowledge and wisdom and yourstory with us.
Thank you, Nat.
Thanks so much for having me.
My pleasure.
I talk to you soon.
Bye for now.
Thank you for joining me in thisepisode of Growing Tall Poppies.
(44:33):
It is my deepest hope thattoday's episode may have
inspired and empowered you tostep fully into your
post-traumatic growth, so thatyou can have absolute clarity
around who you are, what mattersthe most to you, and to assist
you to release your negativeemotions.
(44:53):
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New episodes are published everyTuesday, and I hope you'll
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