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In this special, unplanned and totally unscripted episode of Growing Tall Poppies, I’m coming to you live from Zurich with a raw and real update from my family trip across Europe—a journey that has been full of beauty, challenges, and unexpected lessons.

From the joy of flying business class for the first time, to walking 12,000 steps a day despite severe arthritis, and complex regional pain syndrome to navigating credit card fraud in Amsterdam, to watching my daughter battle serious illness in Paris and Switzerland—this trip has been nothing like I imagined.

But that’s life, isn’t it? Especially when you’ve been through trauma and are working towards Post-Traumatic Growth. Sometimes the biggest growth comes when we’re forced to adapt, let go of rigid expectations, and truly listen to what we (and our loved ones) need.

In this heartfelt conversation, I share:

  • 🌍 My biggest lessons in flexibility, patience, and adaptability while traveling
  • 🛑 Why taking time to pause, rest, and reflect is essential for healing
  • 👩‍👧 How being a mum in crisis mode reminded me about the balance between self-sacrifice and self-care
  • 💡 How to give yourself permission to revisit old patterns when they serve a purpose—and let go of the guilt attached to this
  • ❤️ Why it’s okay when your goals change along the way

If you’ve ever felt frustrated when things didn’t go to plan—or struggled to balance your own needs with caring for others—this episode will give you both comfort and practical takeaways.

🎧 Listen in for a gentle reminder that healing isn’t about perfection—it’s about adaptability, compassion, and staying connected to what matters most.

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Dr Nat Green (00:01):
Welcome to the Growing Tall Poppies Podcast.
I'm your host, Dr.
Nat Green, and I'm so excited tohave you join me as we discuss
what it means to navigate yourway through post-traumatic
growth and not just survive, butto thrive after trauma.

(00:23):
Through our podcast, we willexplore ways for you to create a
life filled with greaterpurpose, self-awareness, and a
deep inner peace.
Through integrating the manyyears of knowledge and
professional experience, as wellas the wisdom of those who have
experienced trauma firsthand.

(00:44):
We'll combine psychologyaccelerated approaches.
Coaching and personal experienceto assist you, to learn, to grow
and to thrive.
I hope to empower you to createdeeper awareness and
understanding and strongerconnections with yourself and
with others, whilst also pavingthe way for those who have

(01:08):
experienced trauma and adversityto reduce their suffering and
become the very best versions ofthemselves.
In order to thrive.
Thank you so much for joining meon today's episode.

(01:41):
Oh, good afternoon everybody.
Welcome
back to Growing Tall Poppies.
Today's episode
or this week's episode is a little different.
Today I'm coming live fromZurich.
As you know, I'm on a trip, afamily trip around Europe, and I

(02:08):
had planned on doing a podcastepisode and dropping it.
However, things certainly havenot gone to plan and.
Like all people who'veexperienced trauma and are

(02:29):
moving into post-traumaticgrowth, we all know that being
flexible and learning andpracticing adaptability and
flexibility is all part of ourrecovery and our moving into
post-traumatic growth.
So in light of that and the factthat I am definitely.

(02:50):
On a mission and a journey toreally move into post-traumatic
growth, I thought I would do aquick episode to talk about my
learnings in Europe so far, andcheck in and hope that you are
all enjoying what's going on foryourselves and you tuning in and

(03:14):
enjoying some of the beautifulscenery that we have been able
to see.
So yes.
So our trip started brilliantly.
We really thought we would spoilourselves and go business class
first time ever.
So that was a real gift andabsolutely amazing.

(03:36):
And we had a quite a restful,peaceful trip.
Got to Abu Dhabi and we had aneight hour layover, but even
that was okay and.
We had a look around theairport, enjoyed time in the
lounge, had a bit of connectiontogether as a family, and that
was really, really lovely andreally good, special quality

(03:59):
time.
So yes, that went really well.
Then we headed off to Amsterdam.
Arrived in Amsterdam, only tofind that my credit card was
charged.
About$600.
So immediately blocked and Ihaven't been able to use that.
So that required a bit ofadaptability.

(04:22):
Um, that was interesting.
So now I haven't been able topay any bills using that card,
and that's been a bit of achallenge thrown into the mix.
But we had a fabulous familytime in Amsterdam where all four
of us were together and.
Yeah, it was beautiful,beautiful city to explore.

(04:45):
There were a few things thatstood out for me that it doesn't
get dark till like nine 30 atnight, so that was really,
really weird.
And people are eating dinner at9 30, 10 o'clock at night.
So that was a very interestingexperience.
And yeah, so we explored, wewent to the zoo, had a fabulous

(05:09):
time.
Doing that together.
And then we did a canal cruise,wandered around, really explored
the city, and as many of youknow, I had unsuccessful ankle
surgery.
So it's been a real struggle formany years to walk far.
But I thought no.
Part of my post-traumatic growthjourney is around really pushing

(05:33):
through the barriers, but doingit safely challenging my own
beliefs.
And breaking down some of thosebarriers.
So we've been doing about 12,000steps a day.
Yes, my feet are absolutelyknackered at the end of the day
due to the severe arthritis andthe pressure on my feet.

(05:56):
But I'm so proud to say thatI've been able to do that
despite the difficulties and thechallenges that that's entailed.
So then.
The other thing I've learned isit took me at least a week for
me to actually wind down.
I've never been one who's goodat rest and pausing, stopping,

(06:20):
et cetera has always beenreally, really challenging.
But I actually got to the pointafter a week, so all of
Amsterdam and into Brusselsprobably before I actually
thought, oh.
Actually not thinking aboutwork, and then it got to the
point of, Ugh, I can't eventhink about work.

(06:43):
So.
That was interesting, but it'senabled me time to reflect to
rest and really pause and listeninto what I need, and I honestly
can't remember the last timeI've done that.
So let me ask you as well, allmy amazing.

(07:04):
Loyal listeners, how often doyou actually stop to pause,
reflect, and listen to you, toyour needs, your body, and do
what you need?
And I reckon you would probablybe pretty much like me, that you
are not real good at that, thatwe've learned to tune into

(07:28):
others' needs and we are really,really good at that, but not so
good at tuning into our ownneeds.
So yeah, so that was interestingand certainly a challenge, one
that I've accepted and it'sactually been quite enjoyable.
So I've started to rethink whatdo I want?
What do I really, really want?

(07:52):
What's important to me and tothe people that I want to work
with that I want to help and payit forward to people who've
experienced trauma and arereally keen to move into
post-traumatic growth.
And whether that's businessowners who are working in their

(08:12):
business, running theirbusiness.
On top of old trauma or unhealedtrauma.
That's one thing, but it'll alsomight be around health
professionals and helpingprofessionals who are exhausted,
burnt out.
Anyway, so they're the thingsthat have come up for me as I've

(08:33):
really tuned in to listen towhat I believe has been part of
my journey that could be helpfulto help you in healing and
moving forward.
That even though we sometimesaren't heard.
Or don't feel heard.
We also haven't listened toourselves, and that's a really

(08:53):
important learning.
So I'm gonna ask you to spendsome time this week to stop, to
rest, to pause, and to just beremembering that we're human
beings, not human doings.
So taking time to rest, toreflect.
Is really, really important.
So the other part that's been achallenge, that was certainly

(09:17):
for that noise, there was ahelicopter in the background
just at the lookout at the topof Zurich.
So yes, who knows what's gonnacome past.
Um, yeah, so the other biglearning is unfortunately,
again, things haven't gone toplan, and my poor daughter has
been extremely unwell.
So whilst it looked like we hadthe most amazing time in Paris,

(09:41):
as we know, what we show onsocial media isn't always what's
happening.
So in my quest to be raw andreal, what I would share with
you, what has really beenhappening, so we had four days
planned in Paris.
Lots of things to do a two daymuseum park.

(10:03):
Exploring the city, going to allsorts of amazing places.
Two of those four days werespent in medical centers
searching for medical centerswhere they would speak English
and take tourists.
And my poor daughter is sounwell, never seen her so
unwell.
So we went to one AmericanMedical Center and the doctors

(10:26):
were beautiful.
Told her she.
Was very unwell.
Needed antibiotics, reallystrong antibiotics.
So she started on those.
She took them for two days,spiking, raging temperatures,
feeling so much worse.
So back we went two days laterto the medical center again.

(10:49):
saw another doctor, again,beautiful doctor, really amazing
people who said yes.
She was still very unwell.
Did not think it was.
A bacterial infection, sostopped taking the antibiotics.
Gave her really, really, reallystrong medication that had opium

(11:10):
in it.
Told her she might feel a bitdrunk, so take it sparingly, and
yeah, that it wasn't bacterial,it was viral, and she likely had
Epstein Barr virus, so glandularfever.
Very, very unwell.
But the trooper that she is, shepushed herself and pushed
herself and kept going and wentthrough hell.

(11:34):
I, I take my hat off.
I am so proud of her in so manyways.
Wanted to make the most of everyminute of her trip.
However, she was getting worse,more exhausted.
And as a mom, it's so hard.
Particularly being in a foreigncountry, knowing that she was so

(12:00):
unwell and we were so far awayfrom home, had no idea what to
do, not really sure whatassistance to treat or to seek
to treat her.
It was very challenging.
So off we went yesterday on thetrain.
Fabulous train, trip, breakcountryside via parts of

(12:21):
regional France.
To Strasbourg and then on intoSwitzerland.
So through Basel and Zurich.
Anyway, apparently things werenot getting better, despite
being told, yes, just ride itout, you'll be fine.
Most likely Epstein Barr virus.

(12:42):
This morning she woke up toraging temperatures, her tonsils
so swollen that she could barelybreathe.
So this morning.
Our plans for Switzerland andgoing to the Lindt factory and
enjoying some chocolate and somescenery, and the Lake Zurich was
not to be so off.

(13:03):
We trotted as quickly aspossible, urgently to a
university hospital where again,absolutely brilliant treatment
doctors.
Amazing.
And thank God for travelinsurance because we are going
to need it.
It's been a very expensive trip.

(13:23):
Thankfully, travel insurancewill cover it when we get home
and submit everything.
She's had more blood tests,very, very unwell.
Doctor looks in her throat andsays, oh my God.
When you know a doctor's sayingthat, you're thinking, oh shit,
what next?
Inserted a cannula.
Anyway, so as a mum, it's beenso stressful.

(13:44):
Knowing that I can't help her.
We are so far away from home.
She's wanting to do everythingshe can to make the most of her
time, but she really is toounwell.
So we have to trust the doctors.
And as you know, um, I've hadsome challenges with health
systems, so that has reallyensured that I've had to dig

(14:05):
deep.
But I've gone straight back intomum mode and yes, some
frustration has come up that.
The doctors here have been quiteshocked at what the course of
treatment was from the otherdoctors, but end result blood

(14:25):
tests were done, results back inhalf an hour and some viral
infection, but also now somebacterial infection.
She's very, very unwell andwe're still awaiting some more
blood tests for Epstein Barrvirus.
So yeah, so as a mum.
We never switch off.

(14:46):
And there's also that part of methat has been wanting to
challenge that self-sacrificingmode.
But you know, let's be honest,we can try and break these
patterns and disrupt these oldpatterns of self-sacrificing.
But when it comes to our kids,we'll do whatever it takes.

(15:07):
So digging deep and doingeverything I can.
When it's been really, reallychallenging, has been yet
another lesson.
Learning patience, learning toslow down, learning to just be.
The frustration that not beingable to have the trip that we'd
planned and things just haven'tbeen able to be how we wanted it

(15:30):
to be, but that's okay.
'cause we are here.
We are.
Okay.
We are safe.
And there'll be more lessons andlearnings in this, I'm sure.
Anyway.
Not much else to report thisweek.
Just want to do a check in areal live version that I'll
hopefully be able to upload as apodcast.
And yes, the quality sound won'tbe anywhere near what it usually

(15:53):
is, but lots of lessons and lotsof learnings that breaking
patterns such asself-sacrificing can be
challenging.
And there are times when it'sokay to continue.
To engage in that pattern whenit's needed.
As a mom for a kid who's really,really unwell, that's a time

(16:16):
that it's okay.
So giving yourself permissionand not beating yourself up when
you go back into those olddefault patterns, because there
are reasons, and that's okay.
Learning to be taking time andknowing that it's okay and you
can reevaluate and adjust andadapt along the way, and that

(16:36):
the goal that you.
Came in with may not be the goalthat you come out with and that
too will be okay.
So I'm just gonna head on backover to the ledge where I was
sitting and I'm just gonnafinish the episode with some of
the beautiful scenery.
And I just want to check in andlet you know that all is okay

(17:03):
and I really.
Wish all the best for you, andthank you for tuning in yet
again and wanted to share that.
Yes, whilst things don't goaccording to plan, you can
adjust.
So take time for you this week.

(17:23):
Take time out to reflect on whatyou need and give yourself that
gift of time.
Rest and time to reset.
So I'm just gonna pause this nowand head on over to the ledge so
I can show you the beautifulscenery.
And I'm gonna upload some ofthis on the socials.
Bye for now.

(18:09):
Thank you for joining me in thisepisode of Growing Tall Poppies.
It is my deepest hope thattoday's episode may have
inspired and empowered you tostep fully into your
post-traumatic growth, so thatyou can have absolute clarity
around who you are, what mattersthe most to you, and to assist

(18:31):
you to release your negativeemotions.
And regulate your nervous systemso you can fully thrive.
New episodes are published everyTuesday, and I hope you'll
continue to join us as weexplore both the strategies and
the personal qualities requiredto fully live a life of

(18:52):
post-traumatic growth and tothrive.
So if it feels aligned to youand really resonates, then I
invite you to hit subscribe andit would mean the world to us.
If you could share this episodewith others who you feel may
benefit too, you may also findme on Instagram at Growing Tall

(19:12):
Poppies and Facebook, Dr.
Natalie Green.
Remember, every moment is anopportunity to look for the
lessons and to learn andincrease your ability to live
the life you desire and deserve.
So for now, stay connected.
Stay inspired.

(19:33):
Stand tall like the tall poppyyou are, and keep shining your
light brightly in the world.
Bye for.
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