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June 5, 2025 6 mins

Hey Hobby Hackers! Today's episode is something special. I just had the incredible opportunity to sit down with Pat Flynn - yes, THE Pat Flynn who inspired my podcasting journey back in 2018. If you've ever wondered how passion, consistency, and taking messy action can transform your creative path, this episode is for you.

We dive deep into the power of learning by doing, the magic of hobbies, and how teaching while learning can lift entire communities. Pat even mentioned my Home Studio Mastery in his new book "Lean Learning" - a moment that still feels surreal.

From fishing to Pokemon, from podcasting to personal growth, we explore how every small step, every conversation, and every action builds something meaningful. Whether you've been with Hacks and Hobbies for five years or five minutes, this conversation will remind you that you know enough to begin, and you're leading more than you realize.

Get ready for an inspiring journey of discovery, courage, and community. Let's dive in!3 Hacks to take away


  1. Consistency Pays Off: By showing up consistently, engaging in communities (like SBI Pro), and taking messy action, you can create unexpected opportunities and connections that advance your goals.

  2. Learn by Doing, Not Just Hoarding: Stop accumulating knowledge for knowledge's sake. Instead, apply one thing at a time, use your skills to help others, and learn through practical experience and real-world application.

  3. Hobbies Teach More Than Hustle: Personal interests like fishing, Pokemon, or gardening are powerful learning environments where you naturally develop skills through hands-on experience, rather than endless preparation or theoretical study.

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