March 5, 2025 • 23 mins
Eavesdrop in on more of my convo with Hilary!!!
Hilary Young is the author of Trusting Gus, a raw and inspiring memoir about resilience, addiction recovery, and the presence of a higher power she calls the "Great Universal Spirit" (Gus). Raised by an abusive, bipolar alcoholic, Hilary navigated a turbulent childhood, battled addiction, and ultimately found sobriety later in life. A near-death experience from liver failure at 58 motivated her to share her story, revealing the moments of grace that shaped her journey. Readers connect deeply with Trusting Gus, responding with their own stories of trauma, supernatural encounters, and personal awakenings. Hilary’s writing is heartfelt and unfiltered, aiming to inspire without preaching. She self-published her memoir to show that healing and transformation are always possible. Beyond writing, she works as a hairstylist, engaging in meaningful conversations with clients. She currently lives in California, where she continues to share her story of hope, survival, and spiritual discovery.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hi guys, Welcome to the Halfway to Dead bonus
content edition.
This is kind of a little aftershow for you guys.
So sometimes I haveconversations with my guests
before we kind of record orafter we're officially recording
.
Sometimes it's superinteresting and I feel terrible
sometimes cutting it out andleaving you guys out of some of
these parts of these combos.
So I thought, well, you knowwhat, why don't I start?
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Because we don't.
I know you guys don't want afour hour long damn episode.
So I'm just going to use someof these things from the
episodes that are just funconversation that I think still
add value.
And you guys might just, likeease, drop it in on some.
Some things I talked to with myguests and some of them are
going to be bloopers, outtakes.
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You know could be a randallconversation that picks up
between me and my personalassistant, my dog in here, stuff
like that.
So I don't know.
Just some fun extra bonuscontent from my interviews from
my life.
Okay, you guys.
So here's the one thatcontinues with Hillary Young.
(01:04):
We had some cool conversationseven after we thought we were
done.
So yeah, kind of eavesdrop inhere the rest of the things we
talked about.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
You guys, let's do it , and you're still making people
beautiful yes, which is a greatjob if anybody's looking for a
career being a hairdresser thoseshoulders are hanging on for
you.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I know I've got a couple friends who are
hairdressers and their shouldersare like hurting.
It's like you know, head intomidlife Not easy on your body.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
No, no, no, no.
It's a great job because youget to connect with people all
day long.
You get to make people feelbeautiful.
I mean, if you think somebodyhas a perfectly normal life,
you're not doing their hair,because I know where all the
bodies are buried.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
You absolutely know.
I feel like that could be awhole book right there.
Just just there's otherpeople's stories.
Yeah, right, yeah.
So what do you think next?
Because you're not done?
What do you?
What do you?
Speaker 2 (01:55):
still got going on, yeah yeah, I'm working on a book
I started in 2020.
That's a sci-fi, a fantasy,really book fun that I felt like
I was watching a movie and Ijust started writing down what I
was seeing and I was just assurprised as anybody else would
be by what the character like.
Why is this character here?
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Hillary, you might be channeling that.
Well, I felt like I was.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
I think you're channeling something, and then
it just stopped.
So I keep saying, hey, excuseme, whoever was helping with
that.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Oh no, you got to get back into meditation and be
like okay, guys, let's get backon that.
What's the rest of the story?
Maybe you know what.
You weren't ready for the restof the story yet and as soon as
you're ready, you're going toget a whole ending to that and
it's probably all channeled andyou're calling it sci-fi, but
it's probably real.
Oh, maybe, I don't know, it'sanother dimension, but no, it's
(02:50):
yeah.
Okay, good, so you're stillcreatively writing.
I can't wait for you to finishthis sci-fi business.
Yeah, because I'm alreadygetting the tingles like this is
a channeled gig here.
Yeah, I think you're going tobe opening your mind up in the
next few years.
(03:10):
Here I do.
You got more.
I think you're going to.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
You know it's been weird, I don't know.
We only have a couple moreminutes, but so I've always been
intuitive.
I've always had a connection tothe other side.
We didn't even get to all ofthe people that have passed away
that turn on my hair dryer andturn lights on in my house.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
No, there's so much more, but you're connected for
sure.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
That's been happening lately.
I have had people that havepassed contact me for as long as
I can remember.
Suddenly now people arecontacting me for other people
and it is weird.
And the strangest story I hadis a friend, a woman that I went
to high school with, that I'mnot particularly close to I
barely know her, in fact butwe're friends on Facebook.
She lost her son to an overdoseand I was just reading
(03:58):
something she wrote on Facebook.
My heart broke for her and Igot Muppets and then I thought
his name was Monster, but theMuppet's name is actually Animal
Muppets and Animal the orangeone named Animal.
I have no idea where that camefrom.
So I sent her a message and Isaid you're going to think I'm
crazy because I probably am, butthis is the message I have and
(04:19):
I don't know what it means.
And I didn't hear from her forabout a month and I thought, oh
great, this person I went tohigh school with is telling
everybody Hillary has lost herdamn mind, she's crazy.
Now Stay away from her.
And then she wrote back andsaid that resonates because
every morning my sons and Iwould start our day with a song
by Prince called Starlight andCoffee and he never did a video
(04:42):
for it, but he was on SesameStreet with the Muppets once and
you can find it on YouTube andI was like, oh my gosh.
So when I you know I think Isaid I specifically the orange
one name, I said monster, butthe animal, yes, animal I go on
YouTube and I find the video andthe video is Prince, in black
(05:03):
and white with a whole bunch ofMuppets, and then suddenly he's
talking to this orange Muppet.
That is animal, except dressedlike a girl.
It's like animal, trans animal,and I was it's crazy.
I was like, okay, that's weird.
Then another friend fromFacebook who I've never actually
(05:25):
met in person, we've just knowneach other for years.
Her husband passed away and Isaid she was like I don't, I
read your book and I don'tunderstand.
I'm so open to this stuff.
Why hasn't he reached out to meLike I can't, I can't feel him
and I can't explain that becausethat's not my experience.
People like, hi, I'm here,right, and I was driving home
(05:46):
that day and I got birds, birds,birds and I'm, and I knew it
was for her.
Don't ask me how I can'texplain.
You just knew I get home, Isend her a message what's birds?
Birds, birds Like does he havea mascot?
Bird Like what's up with birds?
And she says, yeah, no mascot,he didn't really care about
(06:06):
birds.
But you know, his middle nameis J, for blue J, and his
sister's name is Robin and hisother sister's name is Wren,
w-r-e-n.
The three birds, birds, birds,birds.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
How would I know Right Then, um, about a week later it was her
anniversary and she was hurtingagain on Facebook and I went to
put something in my cupboard andI heard crackers, crackers.
(06:27):
What is that?
You know it was for her centermessage what the heck is up with
crackers?
And she said we cleaned out hiscar yesterday and he died
months before.
We found a box of crackers andthe kids and I thought they
would be stale, but we openedthem and ate them last night.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Oh, my gosh yeah right, hillary weird.
So do you know much about theclairs?
Speaker 2 (06:50):
with the clairvoyance .
Speaker 1 (06:51):
You are clear audience girl, for sure.
I know I'm reading.
Do you ever get readings fromother people?
Speaker 2 (07:00):
I have, yeah, and I've always been.
You know, usually if they're agood psychic, the first thing
they say is wow, you're reallypsychic.
And I'm like yeah, I gotsomething.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
No, you need a coach.
You need a coach becausethey're giving.
No, they're, and I'm not one,I'm not saying this because I am
one.
You need one to help you openthis up because you I'm not
saying this because I am one youneed one to help you open this
up because you.
These are all signs, I justknow it.
They're trying to prove to youthat you have this gift, that
you have this ability to helpothers with it, and so they're
giving you these little things.
But if you tapped into that, Ithink not only would you finish
(07:34):
that book because that thing ischanneled, that's no fiction,
that's channeled you wouldfinish that channel book and I
bet you would start being ableto channel messages from beyond
for others more than just thecrackers.
I think that's your.
We just figured it out.
Hillary figured out what's next.
(07:54):
That's my next thing.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
I can't think of anything that I would enjoy more
, because I am so clear thatthere's nothing scary about
death and I'm also so clear thatthe folks from the other side
like I'm not shitting you when Isay and I know it's Xander it
was my first love in high school.
We stayed friends.
We've both been married twice,but we just had a connection
(08:17):
that was hard to explain.
We stayed friends for 40 years.
He passed away.
I'll be staying like.
My hairdryer is is an arm'slength away and I'm over here
doing my hair and all of asudden my hairdryer turns on and
it won't turn off until Iunplug it.
It's bizarre.
You have so many things go on.
My husband one night I cameinto bed, he said Xander.
(08:41):
The next morning I wake up, hesays Xander was messing with you
last night.
Now my husband is an atheist,he doesn't believe in any of
this stuff.
Okay, yeah, yeah, he says.
Yeah, you got into bed, youfell right to sleep.
The light on your side of thebed turns on, so I turned it off
.
Turns on, so I turned it off.
I get comfortable.
Light turns right back on, so Iturn it off again.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Then I'm just about asleep and the light turned on
again and I said babe, soundslike Xander was messing with you
last night.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that'sinteresting because, yeah,
because you are so spot on withyour faith that there is a
divine and that we are all one,and so you've got to pull your
husband in.
Eventually.
I mean, we're all on our ownpath.
He doesn't really need to,right?
He can do it every once he'ssupportive of you, and that's
(09:31):
yes.
So OK, here's what I'm going todo.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Hillary, I feel like now I need to meditate so that I
can figure out who you need toteam up with to open this up.
Hilarious, hilarious.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
I'm open.
I'm open to investigating.
You need someone.
I have two or three people inmy mind right now that would
totally be able to help youfigure this all out and help you
on this journey, because you'remeant to be doing this.
All of these signs and stuff.
They're just waiting for you tosay okay, I'm in.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
And you're going to help people.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
I just want to help people, yeah, and with the whole
world enlightening right now,no, but with the whole world
kind of enlightening right nowand everyone's very open to all
of this, you're definitelysupposed to be helping people
channel with that and and hearfrom their loved ones and know
(10:26):
that they don't have to bescared of the other side.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
And they and I grieve so differently than anybody
else because I'll miss.
I miss Xander, but I'm not.
He's not gone, he's just nothere.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
No, we need to flip it more to a celebration of life
instead of such a awful deathfeeling yeah, people are
suffering and they're in helland, like people, have these
weird ideas about what happensno, people are worried.
They're like I hope, I hope I'llget to see him again, because
he wasn't very good.
Sometimes he might be burningand you're like, he's not
(10:58):
fucking burning in hell like you.
You're going to see him again.
In fact, he's probably in theroom with you right now.
Right, right, exactly.
He's super annoyed.
He's like I'm right here andyou got it all wrong.
We got it all wrong.
They're still burning in hell.
Yeah, so no, I yeah, and that'sjust yeah, based on no religion
(11:23):
but faith in, like you said,the higher divine.
Okay, well, we got to get you onthe next path because you got
big things coming.
Now I can feel it.
It's coming.
You're in a lull.
Enjoy the lull because it's acoming.
Enjoy the lull.
You've learned all those otherlessons.
That's all I mean.
I'm not saying nothing shittyis going to happen, because we
all know there's something next,always.
But you're very well equippedfor it now, like it's going to
(11:47):
be just fine.
Whatever comes at you, you'regood and you're going to start
helping others all the waythrough.
So cool, oh, my God, you haveto.
You're like you've got so manyClaire's popping off, right,
yeah, people are probablyjealous listening right now they
wish they had such clear signsthat you like you do.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Yeah, okay you got it my life.
They probably wouldn't benearly as jealous as you think,
but that's okay, for I do have alot of really cool stuff that
happens.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
I feel very blessed and very it's not about being
jealous about the traumas you'vebeen through.
The people would be jealous ofthe triumphs, but you've gone
through that and you came out onthe other side.
Well, this has been great.
I love it and I'm going to yeah, we're going to connect you
with some people, because yougot more episodes for my show
too, because you're going tostart doing bigger things.
(12:35):
This book was like thebeginning.
This book is what's going toconnect you to the right people
for the next thing.
That's my prediction.
That's my prediction, that'swhat I'm thinking, that's what
my connection's getting.
So I'm going to meditate onthis for you, hillary, and then
I'm going to send you some names.
Thank you, my friend.
You need to connect withsomeone that can help you dig
(12:57):
into this intuition you've gotgoing on and your clairs and
helping people communicate thathave crossed over, because
you're definitely getting thesigns.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Yeah, nothing would make me happier than easing
people's grief.
It just would be the mostbeautiful thing you could do for
people.
I think you can do it.
It hurts so much and it doesn'thave to.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
No, I think you can do it.
You could even be an amazinglike.
Have you heard of death doulas?
You'd be an amazing death doulatoo.
Helping people cross over yeah,not be scared, okay.
Helping people cross over andnot be scared, okay.
Well, listen, you got a path.
I'm excited for your path, Yep.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
You're so cute, all right, well, yeah, I'll tell you
next time.
In another life I had a websitecalled astrologydatingcom.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Oh my God, I saw this in an article about you, but I
went to click on the link and itwouldn't go anywhere for me.
Because it's gone now.
Okay, because I thought and inmy mind I was like, okay, was
this spammy, spammy in thearticle to get me to click on it
, or I was going to ask youabout that.
But I thought, well, it doesn'tgo anywhere anymore, so maybe
(14:02):
that's not a thing, but yeah.
Astrology dating.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
It was fun, but I had a podcast attached to it.
Oh see, okay, but I had apodcast attached to it.
Oh see, so that's why I'm likeyour life story.
I'm like no, it was not my lifestory.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
There's so much more.
You can only Well, like yousaid, you had to edit the book,
you had to bring a focus to thebook, you had to look at it from
different angles, and thenthat's and the other stories and
experience your life will helpyou in other things.
Yeah, like another book.
(14:35):
Yeah, like astrologydatingcom.
And next you're going to beopening services to channel, um,
our dear departed loved ones,because I've had readings like
that too and I've had my dadcome through and all kinds of
people come through, and thegirl that has done it for me,
she, um, she, she has to kind ofwrite while she's doing it, but
they give her words and shesees things too, like with her
(14:57):
third eye, like an apple, andthen she's learned how to almost
come up with a dictionary touse so that when she Spirit
knows, when she sees this, sheknows what it means.
Now, right, she knows how totranslate it for that person.
And like the whole process youknow what I mean Of coming up
(15:17):
with what our departed lovedones want to get across, because
at first they just want to giveevidence that it's really them,
okay, but then, beyond that,then, they have stuff to say and
help us with, or they want toapologize, they want to explain
themselves, they want to tellyou that everything's beautiful
on the other side.
Don't worry about me, you knowwhat I mean.
(15:39):
Like so, yeah, so maybe you'resupposed to be an evidential
medium.
Maybe we'll see.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
I don't know Something's coming.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Something's coming, something's going to happen,
something's coming.
You'll be ready.
You're ready.
You'll be ready for it.
You're open to it.
Gus is going to help you out.
Yep, gus is here.
You're so cute, trusting Gus,see what you're doing.
So I've been in this kind ofhealing journey and what I've
been led to through differentreadings, different meditations,
(16:07):
and that is that I needed tostart sharing my stories,
because I never talked about myabuse before.
All of this Nobody does.
No, I didn't talk about it.
I didn't talk about a lot ofdifferent things, right?
I wasn't on the right divinepath that I had decided when I
came here on earth that I wasgoing to do.
I'd gotten off path and God andI have now fully reconnected
(16:33):
and the angels and you know Ifeel especially close to certain
angels and all these differentthings are going on for me too
and so I felt a strong callingto podcast.
Okay, and I put it off for along time.
I researched podcasting like itwas a full-time job for long
before I started it.
Okay, because I'm also a personwho doesn't do something if
(16:53):
you're not going to do it right,you don't do it half-assed, you
do it right.
So I was like, well, I'm notgoing to do it until I think I'm
going to be perfect.
And finally, you know, good oldGus was like no, you need to
just do this.
Like no, you need to just dothis, because we can't prove to
you we're here supporting you inthis until you do it.
(17:14):
And also, you aren't going toget better and better at
podcasting until you're doing it.
That's how you get better.
So I was like, fine, I'm goingto do it.
I'm going to do it, I'm goingto start reaching out to my
people and I'm just going totrust that it's going to line up
, that when I ask someone to beon a podcast or read their book
or whatever, that if it alignsproperly, it will align, it'll
(17:35):
happen.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Yeah, one of the things I learned with my website
was one of the reasons men havemore success raising money than
women business owners do isbecause men, at 60%, will go out
and start raising money.
They will feel like that's goodenough, and a woman will almost
always wait until it's 99%ready and it's too late and it
(18:00):
screws us.
It screws us.
Yeah, they basically choose totrust that it's going to work
and if it doesn't, whatever, andwe feel like we have to be
perfect before we can even ask.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Yes, we're like, no, I can't do it unless it's
perfect.
So that I had to get over thattoo and be like, okay, and also,
I am a habitual overworker, Ihave to stay incredibly busy,
and I have been taught thatlesson now too.
No, you were meant to slow down.
You have to slow down yourbrain and your life and let
(18:33):
things come to you more easily.
That's your path, girl.
And so what our brain needs iswhat I've learned is cholesterol
.
And you know, like 60 years, 50, 60 years ago, the normal level
for cholesterol was 300.
And out of nowhere, we alldecided normal is 100.
And not for nothing, but aboutthe same time that happened and
(18:56):
remember the craze All of asudden, butter was evil and
margarine was the king.
And all of a sudden, eat asalad, margarine's not our
friend, and all of a suddenNeither are salads.
They're not.
And all of a sudden're saladsthey're not.
And all of a sudden the rate ofdementia and alzheimer's if you
looked at them together.
When we started needing ourcholesterol low, our brains
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alzheimer went up, because thebiggest thing in our brain is
cholesterol.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
That's what keeps our brain safe and healthy so
here's what you don't want tohear but you know is true.
Let me start with this part.
In the 70s, when they did thebig study on cholesterol, they
paid off and it came I mean, itwas in the news for two seconds,
but it was in the news thatthey paid off the two guys that
did this study to say that itwas cholesterol and not sugar.
(19:46):
And it was sugar.
It's sugar.
We all know sugar's the ending.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
That's why we like it so much.
We're the only country thatstill calls dementia dementia
and Alzheimer's Alzheimer's.
Everywhere else all theresearchers.
It is now called type 3diabetes Right, because it's
fucking sugar.
It was never the bacon in thebutter, you guys, ever.
(20:12):
It's the sugar.
It never will be.
Yes, no, we've been so scaredof all these foods and it's just
the damn sugar and it's themost highly addictive thing on
the planet.
I'm there, I am an addict, Ineed a meeting for the sugar,
and so I'm working on it.
That's what I'm working on.
Next is this damn sugar.
(20:33):
But no, I know right away in aroom.
We didn't get to talk to thatin this episode either, but I
have the same radar you have.
I can tell the bad peopleimmediately, especially bad men.
I can sense it immediately.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Immediately.
Yes, you know, you just know.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Yep, I think dogs know too.
I think dogs know too.
Yeah, a hundred percent, dogsknow.
I trust my dogs.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
How nice everybody thinks someone is.
If a dog doesn't like it, I'mdone.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Nope, you got problems.
Yeah, no, I believe dogs and Itrust my own intuition too,
because sometimes even myhusband would be like no, he's a
really nice guy.
He's a nice guy.
I'd be like no, he's not.
I'd be like no, he's not.
He might seem nice to you, butlet me tell you right now that
is not a good person.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
I know it, he's somebody's monster.
He's someone's monster 100%.
Years ago in therapy I had aboyfriend that was back and he
said she's always holdingsomething back.
And I said well, everybodyknows the meanest thing you can
say to somebody as soon as youmeet them.
But if we're decent people, wejust don't say it Right.
(21:40):
And my therapist at the timegoes no, they don't, no, they
don't.
She goes yeah, not.
Everybody knows the meanestthing you can say to somebody
Hillary, that is a special gift.
That's a special gift.
Yeah, but the thing is we getit when we are people that have
had to learn Read a room.
We meet them, not even just,but specifically people.
(22:02):
Is this person good or bad?
What is their weakness?
Speaker 1 (22:05):
No, it's from fight or flight, it's from all the
years in fight or flight.
And us, for our own safety, weneeded to read a room.
We need, like I, like Uh-huh.
Of course you can do that.
It's not just me, everybody can, jim.
No, and I had to read a room,even with a parent with mental
illness.
You learn to know the signalswhen the vibe in the room is
(22:27):
changing.
And what do I do?
So this doesn't hit the fan,right.
And then that's when you starthaving a good, that's when your
humor starts coming out.
Oh, I can make people laugh tochange the mood in the room.
Oh, I can do this to change themood in the room.
Right, and that's all.
You're right, that's noteverybody, it's not most people.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
That's not everybody, it's not most people, that's
not most.
No, it's definitely.
It's a defense mechanism andwe're decent people so we don't
use that ability, but it'salways there.
No, don't fuck with me, becauseI promise, if I needed to, I
could with my words, I couldtake you down.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Yeah, like, yeah, believe me, I know what you're
hiding Exactly.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
And Exactly.
And then the other thing is thehardest thing for me right now
is to not try to change otherpeople, other people's moods.
I can talk to you all day.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
All right, well, we'll get back together.
We got more subjects, we gotmore going on, especially once
you start channeling, I know.
Okay, all right, thank you,girl.
Have a good day.
Thank you so much.
Hi guys, Welcome to the Halfway to Dead bonus
content edition.
This is kind of a little aftershow for you guys.
So sometimes I haveconversations with my guests
before we kind of record orafter we're officially recording
.
Sometimes it's superinteresting and I feel terrible
sometimes cutting it out andleaving you guys out of some of
these parts of these combos.
So I thought, well, you knowwhat, why don't I start?
(00:22):
Because we don't.
I know you guys don't want afour hour long damn episode.
So I'm just going to use someof these things from the
episodes that are just funconversation that I think still
add value.
And you guys might just, likeease, drop it in on some.
Some things I talked to with myguests and some of them are
going to be bloopers, outtakes.
(00:44):
You know could be a randallconversation that picks up
between me and my personalassistant, my dog in here, stuff
like that.
So I don't know.
Just some fun extra bonuscontent from my interviews from
my life.
Okay, you guys.
So here's the one thatcontinues with Hillary Young.
(01:04):
We had some cool conversationseven after we thought we were
done.
So yeah, kind of eavesdrop inhere the rest of the things we
talked about.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
You guys, let's do it , and you're still making people
beautiful yes, which is a greatjob if anybody's looking for a
career being a hairdresser thoseshoulders are hanging on for
you.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I know I've got a couple friends who are
hairdressers and their shouldersare like hurting.
It's like you know, head intomidlife Not easy on your body.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
No, no, no, no.
It's a great job because youget to connect with people all
day long.
You get to make people feelbeautiful.
I mean, if you think somebodyhas a perfectly normal life,
you're not doing their hair,because I know where all the
bodies are buried.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
You absolutely know.
I feel like that could be awhole book right there.
Just just there's otherpeople's stories.
Yeah, right, yeah.
So what do you think next?
Because you're not done?
What do you?
What do you?
Speaker 2 (01:55):
still got going on, yeah yeah, I'm working on a book
I started in 2020.
That's a sci-fi, a fantasy,really book fun that I felt like
I was watching a movie and Ijust started writing down what I
was seeing and I was just assurprised as anybody else would
be by what the character like.
Why is this character here?
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Hillary, you might be channeling that.
Well, I felt like I was.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
I think you're channeling something, and then
it just stopped.
So I keep saying, hey, excuseme, whoever was helping with
that.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Oh no, you got to get back into meditation and be
like okay, guys, let's get backon that.
What's the rest of the story?
Maybe you know what.
You weren't ready for the restof the story yet and as soon as
you're ready, you're going toget a whole ending to that and
it's probably all channeled andyou're calling it sci-fi, but
it's probably real.
Oh, maybe, I don't know, it'sanother dimension, but no, it's
(02:50):
yeah.
Okay, good, so you're stillcreatively writing.
I can't wait for you to finishthis sci-fi business.
Yeah, because I'm alreadygetting the tingles like this is
a channeled gig here.
Yeah, I think you're going tobe opening your mind up in the
next few years.
(03:10):
Here I do.
You got more.
I think you're going to.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
You know it's been weird, I don't know.
We only have a couple moreminutes, but so I've always been
intuitive.
I've always had a connection tothe other side.
We didn't even get to all ofthe people that have passed away
that turn on my hair dryer andturn lights on in my house.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
No, there's so much more, but you're connected for
sure.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
That's been happening lately.
I have had people that havepassed contact me for as long as
I can remember.
Suddenly now people arecontacting me for other people
and it is weird.
And the strangest story I hadis a friend, a woman that I went
to high school with, that I'mnot particularly close to I
barely know her, in fact butwe're friends on Facebook.
She lost her son to an overdoseand I was just reading
(03:58):
something she wrote on Facebook.
My heart broke for her and Igot Muppets and then I thought
his name was Monster, but theMuppet's name is actually Animal
Muppets and Animal the orangeone named Animal.
I have no idea where that camefrom.
So I sent her a message and Isaid you're going to think I'm
crazy because I probably am, butthis is the message I have and
(04:19):
I don't know what it means.
And I didn't hear from her forabout a month and I thought, oh
great, this person I went tohigh school with is telling
everybody Hillary has lost herdamn mind, she's crazy.
Now Stay away from her.
And then she wrote back andsaid that resonates because
every morning my sons and Iwould start our day with a song
by Prince called Starlight andCoffee and he never did a video
(04:42):
for it, but he was on SesameStreet with the Muppets once and
you can find it on YouTube andI was like, oh my gosh.
So when I you know I think Isaid I specifically the orange
one name, I said monster, butthe animal, yes, animal I go on
YouTube and I find the video andthe video is Prince, in black
(05:03):
and white with a whole bunch ofMuppets, and then suddenly he's
talking to this orange Muppet.
That is animal, except dressedlike a girl.
It's like animal, trans animal,and I was it's crazy.
I was like, okay, that's weird.
Then another friend fromFacebook who I've never actually
(05:25):
met in person, we've just knowneach other for years.
Her husband passed away and Isaid she was like I don't, I
read your book and I don'tunderstand.
I'm so open to this stuff.
Why hasn't he reached out to meLike I can't, I can't feel him
and I can't explain that becausethat's not my experience.
People like, hi, I'm here,right, and I was driving home
(05:46):
that day and I got birds, birds,birds and I'm, and I knew it
was for her.
Don't ask me how I can'texplain.
You just knew I get home, Isend her a message what's birds?
Birds, birds Like does he havea mascot?
Bird Like what's up with birds?
And she says, yeah, no mascot,he didn't really care about
(06:06):
birds.
But you know, his middle nameis J, for blue J, and his
sister's name is Robin and hisother sister's name is Wren,
w-r-e-n.
The three birds, birds, birds,birds.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
How would I know Right Then, um, about a week later it was her
anniversary and she was hurtingagain on Facebook and I went to
put something in my cupboard andI heard crackers, crackers.
(06:27):
What is that?
You know it was for her centermessage what the heck is up with
crackers?
And she said we cleaned out hiscar yesterday and he died
months before.
We found a box of crackers andthe kids and I thought they
would be stale, but we openedthem and ate them last night.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Oh, my gosh yeah right, hillary weird.
So do you know much about theclairs?
Speaker 2 (06:50):
with the clairvoyance .
Speaker 1 (06:51):
You are clear audience girl, for sure.
I know I'm reading.
Do you ever get readings fromother people?
Speaker 2 (07:00):
I have, yeah, and I've always been.
You know, usually if they're agood psychic, the first thing
they say is wow, you're reallypsychic.
And I'm like yeah, I gotsomething.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
No, you need a coach.
You need a coach becausethey're giving.
No, they're, and I'm not one,I'm not saying this because I am
one.
You need one to help you openthis up because you I'm not
saying this because I am one youneed one to help you open this
up because you.
These are all signs, I justknow it.
They're trying to prove to youthat you have this gift, that
you have this ability to helpothers with it, and so they're
giving you these little things.
But if you tapped into that, Ithink not only would you finish
(07:34):
that book because that thing ischanneled, that's no fiction,
that's channeled you wouldfinish that channel book and I
bet you would start being ableto channel messages from beyond
for others more than just thecrackers.
I think that's your.
We just figured it out.
Hillary figured out what's next.
(07:54):
That's my next thing.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
I can't think of anything that I would enjoy more
, because I am so clear thatthere's nothing scary about
death and I'm also so clear thatthe folks from the other side
like I'm not shitting you when Isay and I know it's Xander it
was my first love in high school.
We stayed friends.
We've both been married twice,but we just had a connection
(08:17):
that was hard to explain.
We stayed friends for 40 years.
He passed away.
I'll be staying like.
My hairdryer is is an arm'slength away and I'm over here
doing my hair and all of asudden my hairdryer turns on and
it won't turn off until Iunplug it.
It's bizarre.
You have so many things go on.
My husband one night I cameinto bed, he said Xander.
(08:41):
The next morning I wake up, hesays Xander was messing with you
last night.
Now my husband is an atheist,he doesn't believe in any of
this stuff.
Okay, yeah, yeah, he says.
Yeah, you got into bed, youfell right to sleep.
The light on your side of thebed turns on, so I turned it off
.
Turns on, so I turned it off.
I get comfortable.
Light turns right back on, so Iturn it off again.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Then I'm just about asleep and the light turned on
again and I said babe, soundslike Xander was messing with you
last night.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that'sinteresting because, yeah,
because you are so spot on withyour faith that there is a
divine and that we are all one,and so you've got to pull your
husband in.
Eventually.
I mean, we're all on our ownpath.
He doesn't really need to,right?
He can do it every once he'ssupportive of you, and that's
(09:31):
yes.
So OK, here's what I'm going todo.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Hillary, I feel like now I need to meditate so that I
can figure out who you need toteam up with to open this up.
Hilarious, hilarious.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
I'm open.
I'm open to investigating.
You need someone.
I have two or three people inmy mind right now that would
totally be able to help youfigure this all out and help you
on this journey, because you'remeant to be doing this.
All of these signs and stuff.
They're just waiting for you tosay okay, I'm in.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
And you're going to help people.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
I just want to help people, yeah, and with the whole
world enlightening right now,no, but with the whole world
kind of enlightening right nowand everyone's very open to all
of this, you're definitelysupposed to be helping people
channel with that and and hearfrom their loved ones and know
(10:26):
that they don't have to bescared of the other side.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
And they and I grieve so differently than anybody
else because I'll miss.
I miss Xander, but I'm not.
He's not gone, he's just nothere.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
No, we need to flip it more to a celebration of life
instead of such a awful deathfeeling yeah, people are
suffering and they're in helland, like people, have these
weird ideas about what happensno, people are worried.
They're like I hope, I hope I'llget to see him again, because
he wasn't very good.
Sometimes he might be burningand you're like, he's not
(10:58):
fucking burning in hell like you.
You're going to see him again.
In fact, he's probably in theroom with you right now.
Right, right, exactly.
He's super annoyed.
He's like I'm right here andyou got it all wrong.
We got it all wrong.
They're still burning in hell.
Yeah, so no, I yeah, and that'sjust yeah, based on no religion
(11:23):
but faith in, like you said,the higher divine.
Okay, well, we got to get you onthe next path because you got
big things coming.
Now I can feel it.
It's coming.
You're in a lull.
Enjoy the lull because it's acoming.
Enjoy the lull.
You've learned all those otherlessons.
That's all I mean.
I'm not saying nothing shittyis going to happen, because we
all know there's something next,always.
But you're very well equippedfor it now, like it's going to
(11:47):
be just fine.
Whatever comes at you, you'regood and you're going to start
helping others all the waythrough.
So cool, oh, my God, you haveto.
You're like you've got so manyClaire's popping off, right,
yeah, people are probablyjealous listening right now they
wish they had such clear signsthat you like you do.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Yeah, okay you got it my life.
They probably wouldn't benearly as jealous as you think,
but that's okay, for I do have alot of really cool stuff that
happens.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
I feel very blessed and very it's not about being
jealous about the traumas you'vebeen through.
The people would be jealous ofthe triumphs, but you've gone
through that and you came out onthe other side.
Well, this has been great.
I love it and I'm going to yeah, we're going to connect you
with some people, because yougot more episodes for my show
too, because you're going tostart doing bigger things.
(12:35):
This book was like thebeginning.
This book is what's going toconnect you to the right people
for the next thing.
That's my prediction.
That's my prediction, that'swhat I'm thinking, that's what
my connection's getting.
So I'm going to meditate onthis for you, hillary, and then
I'm going to send you some names.
Thank you, my friend.
You need to connect withsomeone that can help you dig
(12:57):
into this intuition you've gotgoing on and your clairs and
helping people communicate thathave crossed over, because
you're definitely getting thesigns.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Yeah, nothing would make me happier than easing
people's grief.
It just would be the mostbeautiful thing you could do for
people.
I think you can do it.
It hurts so much and it doesn'thave to.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
No, I think you can do it.
You could even be an amazinglike.
Have you heard of death doulas?
You'd be an amazing death doulatoo.
Helping people cross over yeah,not be scared, okay.
Helping people cross over andnot be scared, okay.
Well, listen, you got a path.
I'm excited for your path, Yep.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
You're so cute, all right, well, yeah, I'll tell you
next time.
In another life I had a websitecalled astrologydatingcom.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Oh my God, I saw this in an article about you, but I
went to click on the link and itwouldn't go anywhere for me.
Because it's gone now.
Okay, because I thought and inmy mind I was like, okay, was
this spammy, spammy in thearticle to get me to click on it
, or I was going to ask youabout that.
But I thought, well, it doesn'tgo anywhere anymore, so maybe
(14:02):
that's not a thing, but yeah.
Astrology dating.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
It was fun, but I had a podcast attached to it.
Oh see, okay, but I had apodcast attached to it.
Oh see, so that's why I'm likeyour life story.
I'm like no, it was not my lifestory.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
There's so much more.
You can only Well, like yousaid, you had to edit the book,
you had to bring a focus to thebook, you had to look at it from
different angles, and thenthat's and the other stories and
experience your life will helpyou in other things.
Yeah, like another book.
(14:35):
Yeah, like astrologydatingcom.
And next you're going to beopening services to channel, um,
our dear departed loved ones,because I've had readings like
that too and I've had my dadcome through and all kinds of
people come through, and thegirl that has done it for me,
she, um, she, she has to kind ofwrite while she's doing it, but
they give her words and shesees things too, like with her
(14:57):
third eye, like an apple, andthen she's learned how to almost
come up with a dictionary touse so that when she Spirit
knows, when she sees this, sheknows what it means.
Now, right, she knows how totranslate it for that person.
And like the whole process youknow what I mean Of coming up
(15:17):
with what our departed lovedones want to get across, because
at first they just want to giveevidence that it's really them,
okay, but then, beyond that,then, they have stuff to say and
help us with, or they want toapologize, they want to explain
themselves, they want to tellyou that everything's beautiful
on the other side.
Don't worry about me, you knowwhat I mean.
(15:39):
Like so, yeah, so maybe you'resupposed to be an evidential
medium.
Maybe we'll see.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
I don't know Something's coming.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Something's coming, something's going to happen,
something's coming.
You'll be ready.
You're ready.
You'll be ready for it.
You're open to it.
Gus is going to help you out.
Yep, gus is here.
You're so cute, trusting Gus,see what you're doing.
So I've been in this kind ofhealing journey and what I've
been led to through differentreadings, different meditations,
(16:07):
and that is that I needed tostart sharing my stories,
because I never talked about myabuse before.
All of this Nobody does.
No, I didn't talk about it.
I didn't talk about a lot ofdifferent things, right?
I wasn't on the right divinepath that I had decided when I
came here on earth that I wasgoing to do.
I'd gotten off path and God andI have now fully reconnected
(16:33):
and the angels and you know Ifeel especially close to certain
angels and all these differentthings are going on for me too
and so I felt a strong callingto podcast.
Okay, and I put it off for along time.
I researched podcasting like itwas a full-time job for long
before I started it.
Okay, because I'm also a personwho doesn't do something if
(16:53):
you're not going to do it right,you don't do it half-assed, you
do it right.
So I was like, well, I'm notgoing to do it until I think I'm
going to be perfect.
And finally, you know, good oldGus was like no, you need to
just do this.
Like no, you need to just dothis, because we can't prove to
you we're here supporting you inthis until you do it.
(17:14):
And also, you aren't going toget better and better at
podcasting until you're doing it.
That's how you get better.
So I was like, fine, I'm goingto do it.
I'm going to do it, I'm goingto start reaching out to my
people and I'm just going totrust that it's going to line up
, that when I ask someone to beon a podcast or read their book
or whatever, that if it alignsproperly, it will align, it'll
(17:35):
happen.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Yeah, one of the things I learned with my website
was one of the reasons men havemore success raising money than
women business owners do isbecause men, at 60%, will go out
and start raising money.
They will feel like that's goodenough, and a woman will almost
always wait until it's 99%ready and it's too late and it
(18:00):
screws us.
It screws us.
Yeah, they basically choose totrust that it's going to work
and if it doesn't, whatever, andwe feel like we have to be
perfect before we can even ask.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Yes, we're like, no, I can't do it unless it's
perfect.
So that I had to get over thattoo and be like, okay, and also,
I am a habitual overworker, Ihave to stay incredibly busy,
and I have been taught thatlesson now too.
No, you were meant to slow down.
You have to slow down yourbrain and your life and let
(18:33):
things come to you more easily.
That's your path, girl.
And so what our brain needs iswhat I've learned is cholesterol
.
And you know, like 60 years, 50, 60 years ago, the normal level
for cholesterol was 300.
And out of nowhere, we alldecided normal is 100.
And not for nothing, but aboutthe same time that happened and
(18:56):
remember the craze All of asudden, butter was evil and
margarine was the king.
And all of a sudden, eat asalad, margarine's not our
friend, and all of a suddenNeither are salads.
They're not.
And all of a sudden're saladsthey're not.
And all of a sudden the rate ofdementia and alzheimer's if you
looked at them together.
When we started needing ourcholesterol low, our brains
(19:18):
alzheimer went up, because thebiggest thing in our brain is
cholesterol.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
That's what keeps our brain safe and healthy so
here's what you don't want tohear but you know is true.
Let me start with this part.
In the 70s, when they did thebig study on cholesterol, they
paid off and it came I mean, itwas in the news for two seconds,
but it was in the news thatthey paid off the two guys that
did this study to say that itwas cholesterol and not sugar.
(19:46):
And it was sugar.
It's sugar.
We all know sugar's the ending.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
That's why we like it so much.
We're the only country thatstill calls dementia dementia
and Alzheimer's Alzheimer's.
Everywhere else all theresearchers.
It is now called type 3diabetes Right, because it's
fucking sugar.
It was never the bacon in thebutter, you guys, ever.
(20:12):
It's the sugar.
It never will be.
Yes, no, we've been so scaredof all these foods and it's just
the damn sugar and it's themost highly addictive thing on
the planet.
I'm there, I am an addict, Ineed a meeting for the sugar,
and so I'm working on it.
That's what I'm working on.
Next is this damn sugar.
(20:33):
But no, I know right away in aroom.
We didn't get to talk to thatin this episode either, but I
have the same radar you have.
I can tell the bad peopleimmediately, especially bad men.
I can sense it immediately.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Immediately.
Yes, you know, you just know.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Yep, I think dogs know too.
I think dogs know too.
Yeah, a hundred percent, dogsknow.
I trust my dogs.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
How nice everybody thinks someone is.
If a dog doesn't like it, I'mdone.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Nope, you got problems.
Yeah, no, I believe dogs and Itrust my own intuition too,
because sometimes even myhusband would be like no, he's a
really nice guy.
He's a nice guy.
I'd be like no, he's not.
I'd be like no, he's not.
He might seem nice to you, butlet me tell you right now that
is not a good person.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
I know it, he's somebody's monster.
He's someone's monster 100%.
Years ago in therapy I had aboyfriend that was back and he
said she's always holdingsomething back.
And I said well, everybodyknows the meanest thing you can
say to somebody as soon as youmeet them.
But if we're decent people, wejust don't say it Right.
(21:40):
And my therapist at the timegoes no, they don't, no, they
don't.
She goes yeah, not.
Everybody knows the meanestthing you can say to somebody
Hillary, that is a special gift.
That's a special gift.
Yeah, but the thing is we getit when we are people that have
had to learn Read a room.
We meet them, not even just,but specifically people.
(22:02):
Is this person good or bad?
What is their weakness?
Speaker 1 (22:05):
No, it's from fight or flight, it's from all the
years in fight or flight.
And us, for our own safety, weneeded to read a room.
We need, like I, like Uh-huh.
Of course you can do that.
It's not just me, everybody can, jim.
No, and I had to read a room,even with a parent with mental
illness.
You learn to know the signalswhen the vibe in the room is
(22:27):
changing.
And what do I do?
So this doesn't hit the fan,right.
And then that's when you starthaving a good, that's when your
humor starts coming out.
Oh, I can make people laugh tochange the mood in the room.
Oh, I can do this to change themood in the room.
Right, and that's all.
You're right, that's noteverybody, it's not most people.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
That's not everybody, it's not most people, that's
not most.
No, it's definitely.
It's a defense mechanism andwe're decent people so we don't
use that ability, but it'salways there.
No, don't fuck with me, becauseI promise, if I needed to, I
could with my words, I couldtake you down.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Yeah, like, yeah, believe me, I know what you're
hiding Exactly.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
And Exactly.
And then the other thing is thehardest thing for me right now
is to not try to change otherpeople, other people's moods.
I can talk to you all day.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
All right, well, we'll get back together.
We got more subjects, we gotmore going on, especially once
you start channeling, I know.
Okay, all right, thank you,girl.
Have a good day.
Thank you so much.
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