March 26, 2025 • 38 mins
What happens when a healthcare professional with over 15 years of experience in Western medicine discovers that parasites are destroying her health? Kim Rogers, now known as "The Worm Queen," shares her remarkable journey from preparing for death to becoming a health advocate followed by over a million people.
When conventional medicine failed her after 13 surgeries and a botched hysterectomy, Kim and her husband took a radical step – moving to their property near the rainforest where he began growing functional and psychedelic mushrooms to aid her healing journey. Through extensive meditation and plant medicine, Kim experienced a full Kundalini awakening that transformed not just her spiritual understanding but revealed the source of her chronic illness: parasites had invaded her body.
The revelation came after years of suffering with no answers. Despite her extensive medical background, Kim had never been taught about the prevalence of parasitic infections in developed countries. Her shocking discovery that 75% of American water supplies test positive for nematodes (physical worms like roundworms and tapeworms) led her to create the viral ParaFy parasite cleanse that has now helped thousands reclaim their health.
This episode takes us through Kim's spiritual awakening, her healing journey with plant medicine, and the profound connection between parasites and our overall wellbeing. Kim explains how these organisms don't just steal nutrients – they actively suppress our intuition, lower our energetic frequency, and harbor viruses and heavy metals within our bodies.
Ready to question everything you thought you knew about your health? Listen to the Worm Queen's story and discover why addressing parasites might be the missing piece in your own wellness journey. Don't miss part two where we dive deeper into the parasite protocol and how to implement it in your life.
Kim Rogers, "The Worm Queen," is the Co-Founder of RogersHood and inventor of the viral ParaFy Parasite Cleanse. She has built a community of over 1 million supportive followers and a company with 30+ employees all while healing her self of multiple chronic illnesses using natural methods! On the frontlines of a global medical awakening, Kim is passionately trail blazing a movement to help others become their own patient advocates and heal themselves!
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hey friend, welcome to the halfway to dead podcast.
I'm your host, jen Lovell.
Listen, you and I have reachedthat age where we are done with
the bullshit.
We know that midlife is ourchance to flip the script and
experience life on our own terms.
It's time to reconnect with ourhigher selves and reclaim our
inner peace.
Are you ready with an openheart and an open mind?
(00:26):
Awesome, you're in the rightplace.
Hop in and ride shotgun with meon this midlife spiritual
journey.
Hey guys, welcome back to theHalfway to Dead podcast.
I'm so happy you guys came back.
You're not gonna believe who wehave with us today.
We have with us the worm queenherself, kim Rogers.
(00:49):
So Kim, aka the worm queen, isthe co-founder of Rogers hood
and the inventor of the viralpurify parasite cleanse.
She has built a community ofover 1 million supportive
followers and a company with 30plus employees, all while
healing herself of multiplechronic illnesses using natural
methods.
We love that.
(01:10):
On the front lines of a globalmedical awakening, kim is
passionately trailblazing amovement to help others become
their own patient advocates andheal themselves, and you know we
love that.
Here on Halfway to Dead podcast,we've talked a lot about
healing ourselves and takingback control over our health.
So, listen, kim and I talkedfor a while and I'm going to
(01:31):
split this guy into two parts.
So part one we go over Kim'sstory because not only does she
have her health journey and herjourney with these parasites and
everything she went viral forduring During this time, she
also got to the point where sheliterally thought she was going
to die.
You guys, she was prepping todie and then she ends up moving
(01:55):
out kind of to the middle ofnowhere, took herself out of
society to try and heal.
She had a big spiritualawakening, she had a kundalini
awakening, you guys.
So we talk about her spiritualjourney, her kundalini awakening
.
We talk I mean just girl talk.
We have a lot of girl talk.
We talk about all kinds ofstuff.
We had a lot of laughs and wetalk about mushrooms.
(02:19):
She does plant medicine.
She does the shrooms.
That was part of her spiritualawakening and healing process
Also.
We talk about all that.
So that's shrooms, that waspart of her spiritual awakening
and healing process Also.
We talk about all that.
So that's all going to be inpart one.
You're not going to have to waitfor part two.
Part two I'm going to drop thesame day.
No need to make you guys wait,because you're going to want to
jump right in to the nextepisode and you're going to want
to hear all about the parasitecleanse, her purify, cleanse.
(02:40):
We're going to talk all thingsparasites and if you think this
episode's not for you, it is.
If you don't think you havelittle parasites living in your
body, I'm here to tell you.
You do no test needed.
You do so to find out all aboutit.
We talk a little bit in partone, but part two we really dig
in and talk all about theseparasites, how we get them, how
(03:03):
we get rid of them, all things.
You're going to love it andyou're going to run out and buy
this purify kit pretty quick, Iguarantee that.
So, anyway, let's jump in.
Let's jump into part one andhear all about Kim's story and
what started this wholerevolution for her.
Okay, hey, kim, thanks forbeing here.
You have no idea how excited Iam that Kim's here.
(03:24):
We're in royalty, we have theworm queen.
We have the worm queen today,you guys, and so I have 3
million questions for her, notjust regarding parasites, you
guys, but other things.
I think where I want to startis Kim's journey and I'm not
just talking about her parasitejourney.
We're going to talk about thatfor sure too, you guys.
(03:45):
But she's also had, during thiswhole thing, through health
problems, everything going on,you've had a Kundalini awakening
.
You've had your own bigspiritual awakening, and
probably one of the catalystsbehind this was your health, I'm
assuming.
Yeah, and these damn worms.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Right.
So were you raised spiritual,not really.
My dad is agnostic, so hedoesn't believe in anything.
I think that's kind of changeda little bit.
My mom had some religion.
I think I did like a year ofreligion.
I'm agnostic.
I believe that there'ssomething out there and I
definitely have seen it, I'vedefinitely felt it, I definitely
(04:27):
have connected with it.
It's such a different vibe thanif you would have talked to me
five years ago about where myspiritual journey was and I
didn't even know what aKundalini awakening was.
I had no idea what I was goingthrough.
I actually thought I actuallystarted researching my Kundalini
because I was getting off of myKlonopin after 22 years, which
(04:50):
really suppresses any sort oflike feelings that you get that,
your intuition and I thought Iwas actually getting
schizophrenia, which can happenin all later.
Onset of schizophrenia becauseI would hear things and I would
feel things and I'm like what iswrong with me?
Well, now.
I know it's a combination of theparasites that I had literally
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living in my body, which is itsown frequency, and they have
their own feelings, as well asthe fact that I had all of my
chakras open up at once and itwas very painful.
It was not a really positiveevent for me when it all
happened, but I didn't take itin a negative way, which I know
(05:31):
when I talk about my Kundalinihere and there, people get all
freaked out because they're like, oh, it's like negative.
But mine was very positive anda very spiritual awakening where
I had a better understanding ofmy body because it had been
masked so much.
But it also allowed me to helpothers, cause I don't really
feel like when you're on thisjourney, that you have the
(05:54):
opportunity to really like helpother people when you're so
engulfed in your own journey.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
No, we got to help ourselves before we can help
anybody else Right.
So, but wait, you so you sayingyou consider yourself agnostic
but you do believe in somethingbecause you know it's there I am
now like I'm, I believe.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Well, I believe that there's the universe and their
spirits and I believe I justdon't have a label for them.
Like I don't believe thereshould be called one word or
another.
I believe everyone's right.
I don't believe there should becalled one word or another.
I believe everyone's right.
I don't believe anyone's wrong.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Yeah, it's like it doesn't matter if someone's
saying God, universe, spirit,whatever, it's all.
That's what I believe too.
It's all the same thing.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
It's agnostic.
I meant to say atheist.
My dad is atheist, and agnosticis where you believe in a
higher being.
Sorry, let me correct that.
Okay, all right, yeah, because Isaid that and I'm like no, it's
atheist.
They all start with A's, soagnostic believes in something.
I believe that there's asuperior being out there that
created us.
It's just not one label.
But atheist is where you don'tbelieve anything and I don't
(07:00):
even know if he's still thatanymore.
But that's kind of how we grewup, where we had like one, and
I've always been reallyspiritual, whether I took to
like understanding horoscopes ortarot, like I've always had
that, I've always done mushroomsand I've always been open to
everything.
I don't believe that.
There's one thing I believethere are so many things and
(07:22):
it's wild because when I so, Ialmost died.
That's what started this wholejourney is in 2019, my husband
left his career and I left mycareer because I was circling
the drain.
And when I say that I know youdon't do a lot of video, but
this was me in 2020.
(07:42):
Yeah, so that's how sick I was,and I was really, really ill,
and so I needed to figure outwhat was wrong with me, and so
my husband left his career and Ileft my career.
We went out to our recreationalproperty, which is on the
outskirts of the rainforest, andhe grew mushrooms functional as
(08:03):
well as active mushrooms toallow me to kind of open up my
mind and kind of figure out whatwas wrong with me.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
So are you off the?
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Klonopin at this point.
No, so I decided in 2020 to getoff the Klonopin.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Okay, so you were still on it when you made this
move, okay.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Yeah, so I was still on it, but the goal was to get
me off of it.
And then 2020 happened, and Ilive in the state of Washington
and they, you know, uh, 2020 forthe state of Washington was
totally different than everyoneelse.
They like shut everything down,uh, just like everyone else.
But if you didn't get the 2020,you know, you weren't allowed
(08:42):
to go into restaurants, and sothe fear was yes and the fear
was that I would be getting offof my medication and not be able
to go to the hospital.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Okay, yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
So we started to slowly like get me off of the
Klonopin by using Amanita andpsychedelics to allow me to kind
of bridge over in a differentway.
And this is not medical advice,literally.
I've researched it.
I come from Western medicine soI already knew what could
happen to me, you know when Iwas getting off of it, and so I
(09:25):
was willing to do anythingbecause I knew that if anything
happened to me I wouldn't beable to go to the hospital
because I wasn't conforming totheir beliefs of what Washington
wanted.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
It's that crazy in 2020, 2021-ish.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Yeah, and I'm here.
I'm trying to get off a bigpharma, you know.
And so in the process I pushedmyself to have a Kundalini
because I took so many mushroomsevery day.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Okay, so had you done mushrooms before, all of this,
before you moved out there?
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Yes, yeah, yeah, I've always been like an herbal
plant medicine type of person,but not to the extent I was
taking them every day.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Okay.
So for my listeners out there,because we're much middle-agers,
and for everyone out therewho's never done the link that
through this journey I've trustthem because I did have to start
(10:27):
growing my own.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
So if you do want to do anything like microdose or go
on a journey, I do have trustedsources that I have vetted
myself and I've been to theirfacilities or I have met them
personally or I take thempersonally in my profile, Just
so you know, because everyonethat listens to this is going to
be like where can I get them?
Speaker 1 (10:49):
You know, like you got to give them a solution.
Yep, I'd enjoy a trip like thatyeah, okay, so trusted source
you guys on the stream and thenput your.
Are you eating them?
Speaker 2 (10:55):
yeah, so I would dehydrate them, put them in
capsules and then I wouldmeasure the amount I would take
on a daily through a capsule.
Um, because that's really Idon't like.
I'm not a big fan of the waythey taste.
I went to Amsterdam once and Iate a bunch with like French
fries, because that was the onlyway to cover up the taste,
because they're so hard to taste.
(11:16):
They're really not a yummytaste.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
So you just put them in capsules and take them and
you know how much is in eachcapsule that way too, because
it's like a microdosing thing,right?
You don't just want to eat abag full your first time.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
But I was doing more than microdosing.
I was doing quite a fewjourneys to the point where I
was like how can I control mymind?
Because trauma also contributesto chronic illness as well.
And so I had a lot of traumamedical trauma because I had a
botched hysterectomy.
So I had a lot of trauma.
Medical trauma because I had abotched hysterectomy.
So I had a lot.
I had 13 surgeries, so I've hada lot of medical trauma on my
(11:49):
own, and so I was like, workingthrough the trauma, my body was
getting invaded, now I know, byparasites, mold, lyme, candida,
heavy metals, like all thethings I talk about.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Yeah, so part of your spiritual journey is trips with
the mushrooms.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Yeah, and then learning Amanita, which she's
not a psychedelic.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Tell me what Amanita is, what the heck's Amanita?
Speaker 2 (12:12):
So Amanita mascara is .
You know, everybody's familiarwith it because of Super Mario
Brothers.
It's the iconic mushroom.
You got a bunch of them behindyou.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Yeah, yeah, with the red dots and the white dots and
the yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
She's not psychedelic , like she won't make you go on
a journey.
You won't see anything with her.
She'll calm your nervous system.
And she is the same DNAstructure as Klonopin and they
just changed one molecule whenthey made Klonopin from Amanita.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Big Pharma did that.
Okay, big Pharma did thatbecause they have to change
something to be able to to get apatent on it and charge us $3
million.
Yeah, okay, okay, versus, like,let's just grow some and take
it.
Okay, so tell me, tell everyonelistening, because she has,
like you said, a background inhealthcare.
Like you know a lot of shit.
(13:04):
You know what you're talkingabout.
She's not just like somepsychedelic hippie here to tell
us about the shrooms.
No, you have a full background.
So tell us briefly what yourmedical background is.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
So I've worked in Western medicine since 2004.
I hold two healthcare degrees.
One of them is an associate'sin medical specialties and I was
a licensed medical specialist.
I worked in endocrine andneurology, and my second degree
was in healthcare management.
I ran 25 healthcare colleges.
I was a professor at night.
I graduated thousands ofstudents that had progressed
(13:38):
over to being doctors as well,and I used to write curriculum
for DeVry and Carrington, andthen I wrote medical books for
Cengage, Pearson and McGraw-Hill.
I served on advisory boards aswell as wrote national
certifications from medicalassisting to pharmacy to
laboratory medical billing andcoding.
I helped with electronicmedical records transition over
(14:01):
in 2009 to 2010.
And I've just loved medicine.
Yeah, you know the science ofit.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
You, you do the deep dives on the science end of it.
Okay, all right.
So she knows what she's talkingabout, you guys, when she's
telling us some of these things.
She's researched it, she knowswhat's going on here.
So you're on this spiritualjourney and you're doing the
shrooms and you're out in thewoods and what else is going on?
Like, what did you start to do?
We say doing the work, we dothe work, we got to do the
(14:30):
shadow work.
You know, part of thisKundalini awakening is usually
you've hit, you know your darknight of the soul or whatever
everybody wants to call it.
So what kind of stuff wascontributing to your need to do
that, to get in there?
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Well, I was in a no contact with my family for over
seven years and I needed tofigure out, like, how to bridge
that.
But it wasn't something that,like, I could just do without
doing the shadow work, and Iknew that the Klonopin was
contributing to me not beingable to stay in touch with
myself, so I would just rely onthat instead of working through
(15:08):
the trauma.
I started, I tried EMDR, like Itried all of the talk, therapies
and all of that.
None of it really worked for me, and so I needed to figure out
why, and I just had to removemyself from society in order to
do that.
And I knew that, that myproperty was healing and that if
I did die, I could restcomfortably, knowing that we
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were mortgage and debt free.
So that's why my so that Icould have my husband be my
caretaker.
Like I had to get all of it inorder.
Then I had to work on myself,but I had to remove myself from
society in order for me to beable to work on myself.
It wasn't something I couldjust do because of my
personality Like when I go in, Igo in all the way, you know and
(15:54):
so I needed to do that formyself.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
And you had tried a lot of the traditional therapies
and everything else.
And when you say you weretrying to set your husband up
for you being gone, you fullyintended you would die.
Your health had gotten to thepoint where you had, like you
said, you had 10 surgeries, 13.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
13 surgeries 13 surgeries and a hysterectomy.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
That were all related to endometriosis right
Endometriosis and atomyosis.
Yeah, yeah, and so this wasjust taking over your body.
Like you were at the point youreally thought I'm probably not
going to make it.
I've tried everything, and soI'm going to at least get my
husband set up out at ourproperty.
So you guys are out there,you're doing the work.
And then was there a turningpoint, was there a moment like
(16:40):
you had the Kundalini awakening,and was that just you said it
was all of a sudden, you justfelt it.
Were you out meditating?
Were you out in the woodsmeditating?
Yeah, so I used to meditate 16hours a day.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Yes, and it was on January 3rd, like.
I know what day it was.
I know when it happened.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
January 3rd of 21.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Yep, that's when I had my full blown Kundalini
awakening.
But it also caused me to havesome like mini strokes because I
was also getting off of theKalana pin and I got off too
fast, so there were so manylayers that were going on.
But I remember the date, Iremember what was going on and I
remember how, after I feltthinking, oh my God, like what
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have I done to myself, right,and so everything changed that
day.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
So what's the biggest thing that changed?
When you say everything changed, like the next day, january 4th
, what was different?
Speaker 2 (17:34):
For a few months I had to have my husband and his
mom came in and helped me,because I did have a clinical
mini stroke and so I had to kindof relearn how to eat because I
couldn't hold anything.
He had to help me get in andout of the shower, go to the
bathroom, like all of the things.
I didn't have a stroke where itwas on my face, but I lost
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memories and all of that playedinto a part and I would have
been in a lot worse shape, had afull stroke, if I hadn't done
mushrooms and if I hadn'tprotected my brain so heavily
with lion's mane and Amanita andpsilocybin, because all of
those help protect the brain andheal the brain instead of just
bandaid the brain.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
So I do pay homage to them so much, so you know their
protection there.
Yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
And you guys got to remember I do not know any of
this from my Western medicineclassical training.
I literally got downloads fromall of the meditation that I was
doing.
Prior to all of this happening,I was out meditating, I found
energy vortexes on my property.
I literally had no idea any ofthis, but when I needed it,
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source would give it to me and Iwas able to pull that from the
universe and it was telling methings like cleanse.
And I would go what do you meancleanse?
Like cabbage cleanse?
Because like my mom would do,cabbage cleanse soup, like we
would do this cleanse, thing.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
And so I'm like what are we saying?
I'm all, why is the wordcleanse?
And then I started to dig in.
I started to okay, so I've wenttoo fast off my Klonopin, I
hear you.
But now I'm off of it and am Igoing to have side effects from
it?
Absolutely, I am struggling,and not anymore, but I was.
And now it's like but why am Inot at the optimal level?
(19:24):
Like, why do I still feel socrummy?
Why is my face and when I saythat my skin is what triggered
this to a whole nother level?
You see my skin.
I have beautiful skin.
I've always had beautiful skin.
Not for a while there, and sonothing I was doing was working
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for my skin.
And so I started to ask whatelse is going on here, like
something else is going on.
I wasn't losing weight, I stillwasn't functioning at a level I
should have been.
And, yeah, klonopin will stayand damage your DNA for quite a
while, and I knew that, butthere was still something that
was just like.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
I just knew something was off and you were meditating
and getting the word cleanse,cleanse, cleanse.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Did they show you?
Speaker 1 (20:07):
any worms while you were out there yet, or no?
Was it just cleanse, cleansecleanse.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Actually, yes, it was quite strange.
Worms would appear in placeslike in my food.
And then my husband did a videoof our build and a worm crawled
down the front of my phone.
So there was like a worm inthis video, weird worms showing
up, just weird worms.
But I never really thought, oh,that's it right.
(20:32):
And so around May so this wasaround January, february, march
I really was recouping fromcompletely getting off the
Klonopin.
And then someone on TikTokTikTok can read your mind, it's
the wildest thing.
So I was scrolling I scrollwith a purpose and I was
scrolling and this chick came upon my feed and she said I
almost unalive myself over worms.
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And I remember I paused.
So three things happened All ofa sudden, all of this mental
trauma that I had had, multiplethings popped in my mind oh,
that's what they mean by cleanse.
Oh, in 2016, when I was lookinginto some CIA documents, I came
across a document that wasposted and declassed in 2011.
(21:17):
And I found it in 2016,.
Talked about worms and howendotumors are the same.
And then I remember thinking Ihad pinworms.
I was going in for my femaletime looking at my pap and I
thought that I had parasites,and my doctor said no, that's
not right, you don't.
But come back.
This thing in your area looks alittle funny.
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We want to biopsy it.
I came back a few days laterand it was gone.
So I've had these thingstelling me before that this
could be something that could bein your body, and I always just
buried my head in the sandbecause I am classically trained
.
This is crazy, this is out ofthis world.
You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Yes, I do, because I've been telling people about
this parasite thing and thelooks like it.
People just cringe because Idon't think we want to talk
about it, not in this country.
We don't want to think that'sin our bodies and you're like I
mean, it makes total sense, butno, we don't want to hear about
it.
And so people yeah, they dolook at you like okay, wow, you
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really got over the edge thistime, jen.
But I'm like no, listen.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
No, it's a thing.
Other countries know this is athing.
We're just in a bubble ofindoctrination.
Mexico if you think you have aparasite, you can go to the
pharmacy.
It's seven bucks.
They'll give you anti-parasiticand instructions.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
by the way, Jamaica uses and we don't have to get
anything from a doctor here.
Yeah, Totally.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
This is why I created the system.
I created one because theycan't come after me when I'm
talking about my own personalexperience, which is this this
is my own personal experience.
I have literally documentedevery day of my life since July
of 21, when I first did my ownparasite cleanse on camera, on
Tik TOK and Instagram, and soyou can see the transformation
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in my body, in my face, in mymind, and I started a business,
because all I'm doing is soakingherbs and creating a tincture,
like our ancestors did, becauseeveryone knows that parasites
are a real thing.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
We just don't know it , yeah, or we don't want to
admit it.
And we certainly are the typeof people here in the U?
S where we're like, yeah, otherpeople have that, not us.
We're better than everybody,aren't we?
Aren't we, kim?
Aren't we better?
No, we're not you guys.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
In fact I think that we're a way dirtier country than
our water's.
Terrible.
That's where my parasites gotworse.
So I've tested 75% of thecountry's water here and they've
all tested positive fornematodes.
Nematodes are physical wormslike roundworm, flatworm,
tapeworm, pinworms.
Then there's parasites.
(23:55):
City water Like this is likeour city water.
I live in Seattle but inSeattle's tested positive for
nematodes.
And then I also have a home inHoodsport which is where this
all started, and it also testedpositive for nematodes.
And then there's been wellstest positive.
I mean that's a pretty standardthing.
If you have a well, everyone'slike, oh, I have a well.
Well, when I worked in the er,if you came in with abdominal
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pain time 10 days, the firstthing I would ask you is do you
have a well?
Because everyone knows aparasite's in a well that makes
total sense yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
So what's your husband doing during this whole
time?
What's he is?
He's just out growing hismushrooms having a good time, or
what's he doing?
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Well, not, not really .
He said it was really stressfulbecause he knew these mushrooms
were going to save my life.
So it was like and growingmushrooms is a whole another
world.
We've never done it.
They're so hard and we live ina moldy environment.
Now I know I had mold poisoning.
We could never get mushrooms togrow in our travel trailer
because it has mold in it, andso he took six months off from
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our build.
So on March 13th we had ourfoundation done and then we had
the logs put on our foundationjust the logs, not the building.
Had the logs put on ourfoundation just the logs, not
the building, just the, just theshell.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
And then they sat for two years because we fought for
my life for two years.
Yeah, yeah you were all in yourlog cabin when you're dying.
Yet no, right, and so okay, sohe's.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
So he played a big part in this Huge.
He is why I'm here, myhusband's why I'm here Kind of
saved your life with thesemushrooms.
Yep, he did Okay, 100% saved mylife with the mushrooms, and
especially because at the time Iwasn't just going to go buy
some random mushrooms and a DMon Instagram which you know you
can but like I didn't want to dothat, and I looked at like
ayahuasca, because if you canwork your trauma out, you can
get to the root of things, andso I wanted to do that.
But I also had seen how plantmedicine just from all my
(25:54):
research, how plant medicine cansave your brain when you are
pivoting from the Westernmedicine cult, and so that's
what I was doing, and so I waslike all right, well, and I
hadn't pooped in a month and Iknew that psilocybin can make
you go poop.
So I was like all right, well,and I hadn't pooped in a month
and I knew that psilocybin canmake you go poop.
So I was like listen, ifanything.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
I just go poop.
Okay, kim, after 30 days you'regoing to do anything.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Oh yeah, it was.
So.
I mean, you know I would havelike a pebble, so it wasn't like
.
But it was so bad and I reachedout to my doctors in September
of 2020.
And I said, like I haven'tpooped in a month, I'm not sure
what to do.
And she goes try some seliumhusk.
And I'm all yo, you really arejust telling me to try selium
husk.
Like that's it, like this isall you got for me.
(26:38):
So basically, I'm on my own.
And then in January myinsurance switched so my doctors
could not speak with me anymoreabout getting off the Klonopin.
I was three months into a yearof trying to get myself off the
Klonopin and they all abandonedme.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
So, of course, my husband's like Because they
didn't want to be liable.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
They didn't want to be liable, yep.
And so, instead of being human,they were like, oh, we don't.
Even though I was, so, myhusband stepped in and he's like
, oh my God, what do we do?
And I'm like, I mean, we'rejust on our own, we're just on
our.
That's where we're at, we'rejust on our own right now.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Yeah, because there's not a ton of holistic
practitioners that want to touchthe whole client of anything,
not now or not, then, but morenow.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Now it's like between worms and mushrooms.
I feel like and I say this withmy love, because I feel like I
pushed a medical awakening fornot just people but
practitioners.
I talk about this for the lastfour years every day.
I've done this every day sinceJuly of 2021.
Every day.
I've not missed a day talkingabout parasites.
(27:47):
I'm on social media every day.
I've not missed a day talkingabout parasites.
I'm on social media every day.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
I've done like 6,000 videos.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Yeah, because it's so important this is so important
for people.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
It is Okay.
So let's wrap up the spiritualjourney.
Where are you at in yourspiritual journey right now?
Where are we at?
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Because you're feeling better.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
You've got a booming business now.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Everything's going on .
So where are you at with yourspiritual journey right now?
Help each other and we'llintegrate each other.
Because that was a big part ofmy journey after doing a lot of
mushrooms is I wasn't integratedback into society.
It's kind of a like I was kindof out there for a while and I
found a really great group ofpeople to help Denver Mycology
as my guy and he helpedintegrate me back into society,
(28:41):
because it's a lot when you'reout on this journey and you stay
out there like people losetheir minds.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Yeah, cause you disconnected.
You disconnected to the real,to heal yourself and to go on
this journey.
So you guys out there we don'tall have to go that hardcore,
but this has got thrust upon youhonestly, between your health
issues and everything going onLike this was.
That was your rock bottom.
You had to get going on somestuff.
But we can all start doing thework in our own way now.
Whether that involves any kindof plant medicine or not, we can
(29:13):
do the work, okay.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
So that's my cleanse that will help you do this work
because it will release some ofthe environmental toxins that
are overloading our bodies, thatare keeping you from digging in
and finding out really what'sgoing on with you and trusting
your instinct and trusting yourgut.
They remove that self-worthfrom us.
(29:35):
They take your high frequencyand they bring it to a lower
frequency so they can survive.
It is another frequency livinginside of your body, which your
body is frequency.
Living inside of your body,which your body is frequency.
And the way I describe this thebest is that, like when an
opera singer sings and sheshatters the glass, her voice
hit that frequency.
(29:55):
So when you bring in herbs andyou bring in things like
mushroom, you're matching thatailment frequency, shattering it
, and because I've gone throughthis experience of my own, I was
able to bring in.
Each one of these herbs have apurpose.
Each one of the herbs will helpyou heal in a way that you
never even knew you needed toheal, and also avoiding further
(30:18):
problems, because I had virusesthat were attached inside of a
parasite and it's a.
It's a scientific thing thatthe parasites can hold six to
eight times their weight inviruses, heavy metals and spores
, and so when you're removingthem, they're also dropping all
of that into your body, thencreating those viruses that you
may never have had issues within life, and so you have to
(30:42):
match those with a frequency ofan herb, and that's what I've
done, and then it allows you todig even deeper into how you
spiritually want to feelyourself and your intuition and
trusting yourself, because theyremove that from you so that you
lay low, so that you don'tremove them.
They are very smart and they'vebeen around longer than us and
(31:04):
they'll be around longer than us.
It's just a fact, heck yeah,they will.
Yes, all of the mushrooms andthe Kundalini awakening helped
me get here.
Just so you guys know, that'show it all ties in.
This is how my spiritualjourney ties in to this.
(31:24):
This is not something that youlearn in any books.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
You channeled a bunch of.
This is what you're saying Okay.
Yeah, no, God's source.
Whatever you got was comingthrough Like we got to get this
information out there.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Like whatever information came down I know I'm
talking like there were daysthat there was I was very black
and white, you guys very likeVery scientific, yeah, very
science.
I know I always did herbs andlike I've always been a plant
medicine lover and I've alwaysbeen alternative, but to a point
where it's like black and whiteyour body and how is that
(32:00):
possible?
Like I need proof foreverything.
And one day I was like, listen,I'm going to do a bunch of
mushrooms and I'm going to sithere and I'm going to meditate
and if this is all true, like if, if this is all true, I'm going
to close my eyes, I'm going toput my headphones on.
My husband was working up onour um 26 foot carport that we
(32:21):
were living under and I was like, if this is all the truth, I
need a sign.
I need something like come on,I'm not going to go and do any
of this without a sign.
I want some birds to fly aroundme.
Like I literally want a swarmof birds to fly around me.
Like doesn't have to be verylong, I just want it.
Yeah, I'm sitting there, my eyesare closed, my headset, my
(32:43):
headphones are on, I'm listeningto the music, I look, I open my
eyes.
There's like one bird rightthere.
I'm like, yeah, that's not goodenough.
I close my eyes and guess what?
I felt it A swarm of birds wentaround me.
I believe it.
Yeah, and you know, all right,I'm going to do this.
Yeah, and then after that I'mlike that's it.
I know what is the truth.
(33:10):
I know we need to cleanse, andnow I got to figure out what
we're cleansing.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Yeah, now I got to figure out what the hell I'm
talking about, so that, well,they went to they, they
channeled it to the right person, because you already had the
damn knowledge to make thishappen.
Right, if they told me that I'dbe I don't know what you people
are saying.
No, no, that's not my part, butokay.
So when you're asleep, do youuse the shrooms when you go to
bed or no?
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Nope, I just I lay down and I'll actually look at
my husband and go.
I'll see you in a few minutes,Cause I just go to sleep and I
wake right up.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Oh you lucky duck.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Does marijuana send you this?
How Does marijuana?
How do parasites feel aboutmarijuana?
I mean they, they it's fineLike they smoke, and yeah, they
don't, it doesn't really.
Plant medicine has never reallylike disrupted that in life.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
And I've done all my medicines.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
So except for ayahuasca, I've never done
ayahuasca.
I was going to do ayahuasca andthen my husband and I decided
to do Amanita and growpsilocybin.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
So and so that's what you're doing.
Are you going to start someproducts someday with the old
psilocybin?
It's like chocolate bars orsomething.
I don't know.
I've seen stuff.
I've ever typed so many friendsoh, go up into my profile.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Denver mycology is my favorite.
He is great I love them all.
But I've got microdose and thenI have mila, and all of them
are my friends that I chat withoften.
I know how.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
I'm going to look at that because I'm interested in
that myself.
Yeah, I would love to tell that.
I get kind of scared about thewhole ayahuasca journey thing,
cause you hear a story, like youknow, you're vomiting, you're
shitting, your I don't know, I'mjust not.
I think for me just open mybrain and chill and have a good
time and learn some things.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Totally, that's what I.
I did that for a while.
I just want to keep doing that.
I don't everyone's like oh,she'll call you and I'll be
honest, like she just doesn'tcall me and I'm sorry.
If you've done ayahuasca andyou've learned from it, that's
great, I'm so loving yourjourney and there's no judgment
here.
I just don't know if I can holdthe space to like be around
(35:10):
people that are upset and cryingand throwing up and me be okay
with it.
I take everything on too, yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
No, I don't know.
I haven't felt called to likefully do that either, but I am.
I actually bought some candybar.
It says my, it's M Y N D mindor something like that, I don't
know but and it says it hasmicrodosing of psilocybin or
whatever.
Haven't done it yet.
Have you heard of, let me askyou, you know a lot about all
(35:38):
this plants.
Have you heard about mad honey?
What's the deal with the madhoney?
I just supposed to open up yourbrain.
Listen, because it's the, the.
These are feeding off some likespecial plant up in the middle
of wherever.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
So like the Himalayans or something like
that, joe Rogan, I don't know, Idon't know.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
I was scrolling one night and I probably had already
taken my gummy for bedtime andI ordered some.
I own some mad fucking honeyand I've been too scared to do a
thing with it.
I have mad honey and I don'tknow what the hell to do with it
.
I'm like, do I do it?
How much do I?
I'm a little bit nervous aboutit, but I don't even know if it
(36:21):
was a legit enough site I got.
I don't know, but I saw the madhoney.
No, I'm interested in allnatural things that kind of give
us like an opening of funexperience or whatever, but I'm
still a little bit nervous aboutit.
So I'm going to be clicking onyour links of your trusted
people to see your trusted peeps, because that's what I need.
(36:41):
I need trusted people.
That's what we all need outthere.
Okay, guys, we're going to stopright there for part one of this
episode, but make sure you hopright into part two, because
we're going to go deep into thisparasite thing and talk a lot
about the Parify Cleanse.
Okay, see you on the nextepisode.
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(37:07):
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You know the legal jargon.
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Hey friend, welcome to the halfway to dead podcast.
I'm your host, jen Lovell.
Listen, you and I have reachedthat age where we are done with
the bullshit.
We know that midlife is ourchance to flip the script and
experience life on our own terms.
It's time to reconnect with ourhigher selves and reclaim our
inner peace.
Are you ready with an openheart and an open mind?
(00:26):
Awesome, you're in the rightplace.
Hop in and ride shotgun with meon this midlife spiritual
journey.
Hey guys, welcome back to theHalfway to Dead podcast.
I'm so happy you guys came back.
You're not gonna believe who wehave with us today.
We have with us the worm queenherself, kim Rogers.
(00:49):
So Kim, aka the worm queen, isthe co-founder of Rogers hood
and the inventor of the viralpurify parasite cleanse.
She has built a community ofover 1 million supportive
followers and a company with 30plus employees, all while
healing herself of multiplechronic illnesses using natural
methods.
We love that.
(01:10):
On the front lines of a globalmedical awakening, kim is
passionately trailblazing amovement to help others become
their own patient advocates andheal themselves, and you know we
love that.
Here on Halfway to Dead podcast,we've talked a lot about
healing ourselves and takingback control over our health.
So, listen, kim and I talkedfor a while and I'm going to
(01:31):
split this guy into two parts.
So part one we go over Kim'sstory because not only does she
have her health journey and herjourney with these parasites and
everything she went viral forduring During this time, she
also got to the point where sheliterally thought she was going
to die.
You guys, she was prepping todie and then she ends up moving
(01:55):
out kind of to the middle ofnowhere, took herself out of
society to try and heal.
She had a big spiritualawakening, she had a kundalini
awakening, you guys.
So we talk about her spiritualjourney, her kundalini awakening
.
We talk I mean just girl talk.
We have a lot of girl talk.
We talk about all kinds ofstuff.
We had a lot of laughs and wetalk about mushrooms.
(02:19):
She does plant medicine.
She does the shrooms.
That was part of her spiritualawakening and healing process
Also.
We talk about all that.
So that's shrooms, that waspart of her spiritual awakening
and healing process Also.
We talk about all that.
So that's all going to be inpart one.
You're not going to have to waitfor part two.
Part two I'm going to drop thesame day.
No need to make you guys wait,because you're going to want to
jump right in to the nextepisode and you're going to want
to hear all about the parasitecleanse, her purify, cleanse.
(02:40):
We're going to talk all thingsparasites and if you think this
episode's not for you, it is.
If you don't think you havelittle parasites living in your
body, I'm here to tell you.
You do no test needed.
You do so to find out all aboutit.
We talk a little bit in partone, but part two we really dig
in and talk all about theseparasites, how we get them, how
(03:03):
we get rid of them, all things.
You're going to love it andyou're going to run out and buy
this purify kit pretty quick, Iguarantee that.
So, anyway, let's jump in.
Let's jump into part one andhear all about Kim's story and
what started this wholerevolution for her.
Okay, hey, kim, thanks forbeing here.
You have no idea how excited Iam that Kim's here.
(03:24):
We're in royalty, we have theworm queen.
We have the worm queen today,you guys, and so I have 3
million questions for her, notjust regarding parasites, you
guys, but other things.
I think where I want to startis Kim's journey and I'm not
just talking about her parasitejourney.
We're going to talk about thatfor sure too, you guys.
(03:45):
But she's also had, during thiswhole thing, through health
problems, everything going on,you've had a Kundalini awakening
.
You've had your own bigspiritual awakening, and
probably one of the catalystsbehind this was your health, I'm
assuming.
Yeah, and these damn worms.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Right.
So were you raised spiritual,not really.
My dad is agnostic, so hedoesn't believe in anything.
I think that's kind of changeda little bit.
My mom had some religion.
I think I did like a year ofreligion.
I'm agnostic.
I believe that there'ssomething out there and I
definitely have seen it, I'vedefinitely felt it, I definitely
(04:27):
have connected with it.
It's such a different vibe thanif you would have talked to me
five years ago about where myspiritual journey was and I
didn't even know what aKundalini awakening was.
I had no idea what I was goingthrough.
I actually thought I actuallystarted researching my Kundalini
because I was getting off of myKlonopin after 22 years, which
(04:50):
really suppresses any sort oflike feelings that you get that,
your intuition and I thought Iwas actually getting
schizophrenia, which can happenin all later.
Onset of schizophrenia becauseI would hear things and I would
feel things and I'm like what iswrong with me?
Well, now.
I know it's a combination of theparasites that I had literally
(05:10):
living in my body, which is itsown frequency, and they have
their own feelings, as well asthe fact that I had all of my
chakras open up at once and itwas very painful.
It was not a really positiveevent for me when it all
happened, but I didn't take itin a negative way, which I know
(05:31):
when I talk about my Kundalinihere and there, people get all
freaked out because they're like, oh, it's like negative.
But mine was very positive anda very spiritual awakening where
I had a better understanding ofmy body because it had been
masked so much.
But it also allowed me to helpothers, cause I don't really
feel like when you're on thisjourney, that you have the
(05:54):
opportunity to really like helpother people when you're so
engulfed in your own journey.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
No, we got to help ourselves before we can help
anybody else Right.
So, but wait, you so you sayingyou consider yourself agnostic
but you do believe in somethingbecause you know it's there I am
now like I'm, I believe.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Well, I believe that there's the universe and their
spirits and I believe I justdon't have a label for them.
Like I don't believe thereshould be called one word or
another.
I believe everyone's right.
I don't believe there should becalled one word or another.
I believe everyone's right.
I don't believe anyone's wrong.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Yeah, it's like it doesn't matter if someone's
saying God, universe, spirit,whatever, it's all.
That's what I believe too.
It's all the same thing.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
It's agnostic.
I meant to say atheist.
My dad is atheist, and agnosticis where you believe in a
higher being.
Sorry, let me correct that.
Okay, all right, yeah, because Isaid that and I'm like no, it's
atheist.
They all start with A's, soagnostic believes in something.
I believe that there's asuperior being out there that
created us.
It's just not one label.
But atheist is where you don'tbelieve anything and I don't
(07:00):
even know if he's still thatanymore.
But that's kind of how we grewup, where we had like one, and
I've always been reallyspiritual, whether I took to
like understanding horoscopes ortarot, like I've always had
that, I've always done mushroomsand I've always been open to
everything.
I don't believe that.
There's one thing I believethere are so many things and
(07:22):
it's wild because when I so, Ialmost died.
That's what started this wholejourney is in 2019, my husband
left his career and I left mycareer because I was circling
the drain.
And when I say that I know youdon't do a lot of video, but
this was me in 2020.
(07:42):
Yeah, so that's how sick I was,and I was really, really ill,
and so I needed to figure outwhat was wrong with me, and so
my husband left his career and Ileft my career.
We went out to our recreationalproperty, which is on the
outskirts of the rainforest, andhe grew mushrooms functional as
(08:03):
well as active mushrooms toallow me to kind of open up my
mind and kind of figure out whatwas wrong with me.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
So are you off the?
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Klonopin at this point.
No, so I decided in 2020 to getoff the Klonopin.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Okay, so you were still on it when you made this
move, okay.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Yeah, so I was still on it, but the goal was to get
me off of it.
And then 2020 happened, and Ilive in the state of Washington
and they, you know, uh, 2020 forthe state of Washington was
totally different than everyoneelse.
They like shut everything down,uh, just like everyone else.
But if you didn't get the 2020,you know, you weren't allowed
(08:42):
to go into restaurants, and sothe fear was yes and the fear
was that I would be getting offof my medication and not be able
to go to the hospital.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Okay, yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
So we started to slowly like get me off of the
Klonopin by using Amanita andpsychedelics to allow me to kind
of bridge over in a differentway.
And this is not medical advice,literally.
I've researched it.
I come from Western medicine soI already knew what could
happen to me, you know when Iwas getting off of it, and so I
(09:25):
was willing to do anythingbecause I knew that if anything
happened to me I wouldn't beable to go to the hospital
because I wasn't conforming totheir beliefs of what Washington
wanted.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
It's that crazy in 2020, 2021-ish.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Yeah, and I'm here.
I'm trying to get off a bigpharma, you know.
And so in the process I pushedmyself to have a Kundalini
because I took so many mushroomsevery day.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Okay, so had you done mushrooms before, all of this,
before you moved out there?
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Yes, yeah, yeah, I've always been like an herbal
plant medicine type of person,but not to the extent I was
taking them every day.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Okay.
So for my listeners out there,because we're much middle-agers,
and for everyone out therewho's never done the link that
through this journey I've trustthem because I did have to start
(10:27):
growing my own.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
So if you do want to do anything like microdose or go
on a journey, I do have trustedsources that I have vetted
myself and I've been to theirfacilities or I have met them
personally or I take thempersonally in my profile, Just
so you know, because everyonethat listens to this is going to
be like where can I get them?
Speaker 1 (10:49):
You know, like you got to give them a solution.
Yep, I'd enjoy a trip like thatyeah, okay, so trusted source
you guys on the stream and thenput your.
Are you eating them?
Speaker 2 (10:55):
yeah, so I would dehydrate them, put them in
capsules and then I wouldmeasure the amount I would take
on a daily through a capsule.
Um, because that's really Idon't like.
I'm not a big fan of the waythey taste.
I went to Amsterdam once and Iate a bunch with like French
fries, because that was the onlyway to cover up the taste,
because they're so hard to taste.
(11:16):
They're really not a yummytaste.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
So you just put them in capsules and take them and
you know how much is in eachcapsule that way too, because
it's like a microdosing thing,right?
You don't just want to eat abag full your first time.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
But I was doing more than microdosing.
I was doing quite a fewjourneys to the point where I
was like how can I control mymind?
Because trauma also contributesto chronic illness as well.
And so I had a lot of traumamedical trauma because I had a
botched hysterectomy.
So I had a lot of trauma.
Medical trauma because I had abotched hysterectomy.
So I had a lot.
I had 13 surgeries, so I've hada lot of medical trauma on my
(11:49):
own, and so I was like, workingthrough the trauma, my body was
getting invaded, now I know, byparasites, mold, lyme, candida,
heavy metals, like all thethings I talk about.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Yeah, so part of your spiritual journey is trips with
the mushrooms.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Yeah, and then learning Amanita, which she's
not a psychedelic.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Tell me what Amanita is, what the heck's Amanita?
Speaker 2 (12:12):
So Amanita mascara is .
You know, everybody's familiarwith it because of Super Mario
Brothers.
It's the iconic mushroom.
You got a bunch of them behindyou.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Yeah, yeah, with the red dots and the white dots and
the yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
She's not psychedelic , like she won't make you go on
a journey.
You won't see anything with her.
She'll calm your nervous system.
And she is the same DNAstructure as Klonopin and they
just changed one molecule whenthey made Klonopin from Amanita.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Big Pharma did that.
Okay, big Pharma did thatbecause they have to change
something to be able to to get apatent on it and charge us $3
million.
Yeah, okay, okay, versus, like,let's just grow some and take
it.
Okay, so tell me, tell everyonelistening, because she has,
like you said, a background inhealthcare.
Like you know a lot of shit.
(13:04):
You know what you're talkingabout.
She's not just like somepsychedelic hippie here to tell
us about the shrooms.
No, you have a full background.
So tell us briefly what yourmedical background is.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
So I've worked in Western medicine since 2004.
I hold two healthcare degrees.
One of them is an associate'sin medical specialties and I was
a licensed medical specialist.
I worked in endocrine andneurology, and my second degree
was in healthcare management.
I ran 25 healthcare colleges.
I was a professor at night.
I graduated thousands ofstudents that had progressed
(13:38):
over to being doctors as well,and I used to write curriculum
for DeVry and Carrington, andthen I wrote medical books for
Cengage, Pearson and McGraw-Hill.
I served on advisory boards aswell as wrote national
certifications from medicalassisting to pharmacy to
laboratory medical billing andcoding.
I helped with electronicmedical records transition over
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in 2009 to 2010.
And I've just loved medicine.
Yeah, you know the science ofit.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
You, you do the deep dives on the science end of it.
Okay, all right.
So she knows what she's talkingabout, you guys, when she's
telling us some of these things.
She's researched it, she knowswhat's going on here.
So you're on this spiritualjourney and you're doing the
shrooms and you're out in thewoods and what else is going on?
Like, what did you start to do?
We say doing the work, we dothe work, we got to do the
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shadow work.
You know, part of thisKundalini awakening is usually
you've hit, you know your darknight of the soul or whatever
everybody wants to call it.
So what kind of stuff wascontributing to your need to do
that, to get in there?
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Well, I was in a no contact with my family for over
seven years and I needed tofigure out, like, how to bridge
that.
But it wasn't something that,like, I could just do without
doing the shadow work, and Iknew that the Klonopin was
contributing to me not beingable to stay in touch with
myself, so I would just rely onthat instead of working through
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the trauma.
I started, I tried EMDR, like Itried all of the talk, therapies
and all of that.
None of it really worked for me, and so I needed to figure out
why, and I just had to removemyself from society in order to
do that.
And I knew that, that myproperty was healing and that if
I did die, I could restcomfortably, knowing that we
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were mortgage and debt free.
So that's why my so that Icould have my husband be my
caretaker.
Like I had to get all of it inorder.
Then I had to work on myself,but I had to remove myself from
society in order for me to beable to work on myself.
It wasn't something I couldjust do because of my
personality Like when I go in, Igo in all the way, you know and
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so I needed to do that formyself.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
And you had tried a lot of the traditional therapies
and everything else.
And when you say you weretrying to set your husband up
for you being gone, you fullyintended you would die.
Your health had gotten to thepoint where you had, like you
said, you had 10 surgeries, 13.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
13 surgeries 13 surgeries and a hysterectomy.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
That were all related to endometriosis right
Endometriosis and atomyosis.
Yeah, yeah, and so this wasjust taking over your body.
Like you were at the point youreally thought I'm probably not
going to make it.
I've tried everything, and soI'm going to at least get my
husband set up out at ourproperty.
So you guys are out there,you're doing the work.
And then was there a turningpoint, was there a moment like
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you had the Kundalini awakening,and was that just you said it
was all of a sudden, you justfelt it.
Were you out meditating?
Were you out in the woodsmeditating?
Yeah, so I used to meditate 16hours a day.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Yes, and it was on January 3rd, like.
I know what day it was.
I know when it happened.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
January 3rd of 21.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Yep, that's when I had my full blown Kundalini
awakening.
But it also caused me to havesome like mini strokes because I
was also getting off of theKalana pin and I got off too
fast, so there were so manylayers that were going on.
But I remember the date, Iremember what was going on and I
remember how, after I feltthinking, oh my God, like what
(17:21):
have I done to myself, right,and so everything changed that
day.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
So what's the biggest thing that changed?
When you say everything changed, like the next day, january 4th
, what was different?
Speaker 2 (17:34):
For a few months I had to have my husband and his
mom came in and helped me,because I did have a clinical
mini stroke and so I had to kindof relearn how to eat because I
couldn't hold anything.
He had to help me get in andout of the shower, go to the
bathroom, like all of the things.
I didn't have a stroke where itwas on my face, but I lost
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memories and all of that playedinto a part and I would have
been in a lot worse shape, had afull stroke, if I hadn't done
mushrooms and if I hadn'tprotected my brain so heavily
with lion's mane and Amanita andpsilocybin, because all of
those help protect the brain andheal the brain instead of just
bandaid the brain.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
So I do pay homage to them so much, so you know their
protection there.
Yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
And you guys got to remember I do not know any of
this from my Western medicineclassical training.
I literally got downloads fromall of the meditation that I was
doing.
Prior to all of this happening,I was out meditating, I found
energy vortexes on my property.
I literally had no idea any ofthis, but when I needed it,
(18:45):
source would give it to me and Iwas able to pull that from the
universe and it was telling methings like cleanse.
And I would go what do you meancleanse?
Like cabbage cleanse?
Because like my mom would do,cabbage cleanse soup, like we
would do this cleanse, thing.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
And so I'm like what are we saying?
I'm all, why is the wordcleanse?
And then I started to dig in.
I started to okay, so I've wenttoo fast off my Klonopin, I
hear you.
But now I'm off of it and am Igoing to have side effects from
it?
Absolutely, I am struggling,and not anymore, but I was.
And now it's like but why am Inot at the optimal level?
(19:24):
Like, why do I still feel socrummy?
Why is my face and when I saythat my skin is what triggered
this to a whole nother level?
You see my skin.
I have beautiful skin.
I've always had beautiful skin.
Not for a while there, and sonothing I was doing was working
(19:44):
for my skin.
And so I started to ask whatelse is going on here, like
something else is going on.
I wasn't losing weight, I stillwasn't functioning at a level I
should have been.
And, yeah, klonopin will stayand damage your DNA for quite a
while, and I knew that, butthere was still something that
was just like.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
I just knew something was off and you were meditating
and getting the word cleanse,cleanse, cleanse.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Did they show you?
Speaker 1 (20:07):
any worms while you were out there yet, or no?
Was it just cleanse, cleansecleanse.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Actually, yes, it was quite strange.
Worms would appear in placeslike in my food.
And then my husband did a videoof our build and a worm crawled
down the front of my phone.
So there was like a worm inthis video, weird worms showing
up, just weird worms.
But I never really thought, oh,that's it right.
(20:32):
And so around May so this wasaround January, february, march
I really was recouping fromcompletely getting off the
Klonopin.
And then someone on TikTokTikTok can read your mind, it's
the wildest thing.
So I was scrolling I scrollwith a purpose and I was
scrolling and this chick came upon my feed and she said I
almost unalive myself over worms.
(20:54):
And I remember I paused.
So three things happened All ofa sudden, all of this mental
trauma that I had had, multiplethings popped in my mind oh,
that's what they mean by cleanse.
Oh, in 2016, when I was lookinginto some CIA documents, I came
across a document that wasposted and declassed in 2011.
(21:17):
And I found it in 2016,.
Talked about worms and howendotumors are the same.
And then I remember thinking Ihad pinworms.
I was going in for my femaletime looking at my pap and I
thought that I had parasites,and my doctor said no, that's
not right, you don't.
But come back.
This thing in your area looks alittle funny.
(21:40):
We want to biopsy it.
I came back a few days laterand it was gone.
So I've had these thingstelling me before that this
could be something that could bein your body, and I always just
buried my head in the sandbecause I am classically trained
.
This is crazy, this is out ofthis world.
You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Yes, I do, because I've been telling people about
this parasite thing and thelooks like it.
People just cringe because Idon't think we want to talk
about it, not in this country.
We don't want to think that'sin our bodies and you're like I
mean, it makes total sense, butno, we don't want to hear about
it.
And so people yeah, they dolook at you like okay, wow, you
(22:22):
really got over the edge thistime, jen.
But I'm like no, listen.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
No, it's a thing.
Other countries know this is athing.
We're just in a bubble ofindoctrination.
Mexico if you think you have aparasite, you can go to the
pharmacy.
It's seven bucks.
They'll give you anti-parasiticand instructions.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
by the way, Jamaica uses and we don't have to get
anything from a doctor here.
Yeah, Totally.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
This is why I created the system.
I created one because theycan't come after me when I'm
talking about my own personalexperience, which is this this
is my own personal experience.
I have literally documentedevery day of my life since July
of 21, when I first did my ownparasite cleanse on camera, on
Tik TOK and Instagram, and soyou can see the transformation
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in my body, in my face, in mymind, and I started a business,
because all I'm doing is soakingherbs and creating a tincture,
like our ancestors did, becauseeveryone knows that parasites
are a real thing.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
We just don't know it , yeah, or we don't want to
admit it.
And we certainly are the typeof people here in the U?
S where we're like, yeah, otherpeople have that, not us.
We're better than everybody,aren't we?
Aren't we, kim?
Aren't we better?
No, we're not you guys.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
In fact I think that we're a way dirtier country than
our water's.
Terrible.
That's where my parasites gotworse.
So I've tested 75% of thecountry's water here and they've
all tested positive fornematodes.
Nematodes are physical wormslike roundworm, flatworm,
tapeworm, pinworms.
Then there's parasites.
(23:55):
City water Like this is likeour city water.
I live in Seattle but inSeattle's tested positive for
nematodes.
And then I also have a home inHoodsport which is where this
all started, and it also testedpositive for nematodes.
And then there's been wellstest positive.
I mean that's a pretty standardthing.
If you have a well, everyone'slike, oh, I have a well.
Well, when I worked in the er,if you came in with abdominal
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pain time 10 days, the firstthing I would ask you is do you
have a well?
Because everyone knows aparasite's in a well that makes
total sense yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
So what's your husband doing during this whole
time?
What's he is?
He's just out growing hismushrooms having a good time, or
what's he doing?
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Well, not, not really .
He said it was really stressfulbecause he knew these mushrooms
were going to save my life.
So it was like and growingmushrooms is a whole another
world.
We've never done it.
They're so hard and we live ina moldy environment.
Now I know I had mold poisoning.
We could never get mushrooms togrow in our travel trailer
because it has mold in it, andso he took six months off from
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our build.
So on March 13th we had ourfoundation done and then we had
the logs put on our foundationjust the logs, not the building.
Had the logs put on ourfoundation just the logs, not
the building, just the, just theshell.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
And then they sat for two years because we fought for
my life for two years.
Yeah, yeah you were all in yourlog cabin when you're dying.
Yet no, right, and so okay, sohe's.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
So he played a big part in this Huge.
He is why I'm here, myhusband's why I'm here Kind of
saved your life with thesemushrooms.
Yep, he did Okay, 100% saved mylife with the mushrooms, and
especially because at the time Iwasn't just going to go buy
some random mushrooms and a DMon Instagram which you know you
can but like I didn't want to dothat, and I looked at like
ayahuasca, because if you canwork your trauma out, you can
get to the root of things, andso I wanted to do that.
But I also had seen how plantmedicine just from all my
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research, how plant medicine cansave your brain when you are
pivoting from the Westernmedicine cult, and so that's
what I was doing, and so I waslike all right, well, and I
hadn't pooped in a month and Iknew that psilocybin can make
you go poop.
So I was like all right, well,and I hadn't pooped in a month
and I knew that psilocybin canmake you go poop.
So I was like listen, ifanything.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
I just go poop.
Okay, kim, after 30 days you'regoing to do anything.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Oh yeah, it was.
So.
I mean, you know I would havelike a pebble, so it wasn't like
.
But it was so bad and I reachedout to my doctors in September
of 2020.
And I said, like I haven'tpooped in a month, I'm not sure
what to do.
And she goes try some seliumhusk.
And I'm all yo, you really arejust telling me to try selium
husk.
Like that's it, like this isall you got for me.
(26:38):
So basically, I'm on my own.
And then in January myinsurance switched so my doctors
could not speak with me anymoreabout getting off the Klonopin.
I was three months into a yearof trying to get myself off the
Klonopin and they all abandonedme.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
So, of course, my husband's like Because they
didn't want to be liable.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
They didn't want to be liable, yep.
And so, instead of being human,they were like, oh, we don't.
Even though I was, so, myhusband stepped in and he's like
, oh my God, what do we do?
And I'm like, I mean, we'rejust on our own, we're just on
our.
That's where we're at, we'rejust on our own right now.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Yeah, because there's not a ton of holistic
practitioners that want to touchthe whole client of anything,
not now or not, then, but morenow.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Now it's like between worms and mushrooms.
I feel like and I say this withmy love, because I feel like I
pushed a medical awakening fornot just people but
practitioners.
I talk about this for the lastfour years every day.
I've done this every day sinceJuly of 2021.
Every day.
I've not missed a day talkingabout parasites.
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I'm on social media every day.
I've not missed a day talkingabout parasites.
I'm on social media every day.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
I've done like 6,000 videos.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Yeah, because it's so important this is so important
for people.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
It is Okay.
So let's wrap up the spiritualjourney.
Where are you at in yourspiritual journey right now?
Where are we at?
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Because you're feeling better.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
You've got a booming business now.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Everything's going on .
So where are you at with yourspiritual journey right now?
Help each other and we'llintegrate each other.
Because that was a big part ofmy journey after doing a lot of
mushrooms is I wasn't integratedback into society.
It's kind of a like I was kindof out there for a while and I
found a really great group ofpeople to help Denver Mycology
as my guy and he helpedintegrate me back into society,
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because it's a lot when you'reout on this journey and you stay
out there like people losetheir minds.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Yeah, cause you disconnected.
You disconnected to the real,to heal yourself and to go on
this journey.
So you guys out there we don'tall have to go that hardcore,
but this has got thrust upon youhonestly, between your health
issues and everything going onLike this was.
That was your rock bottom.
You had to get going on somestuff.
But we can all start doing thework in our own way now.
Whether that involves any kindof plant medicine or not, we can
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do the work, okay.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
So that's my cleanse that will help you do this work
because it will release some ofthe environmental toxins that
are overloading our bodies, thatare keeping you from digging in
and finding out really what'sgoing on with you and trusting
your instinct and trusting yourgut.
They remove that self-worthfrom us.
(29:35):
They take your high frequencyand they bring it to a lower
frequency so they can survive.
It is another frequency livinginside of your body, which your
body is frequency.
Living inside of your body,which your body is frequency.
And the way I describe this thebest is that, like when an
opera singer sings and sheshatters the glass, her voice
hit that frequency.
(29:55):
So when you bring in herbs andyou bring in things like
mushroom, you're matching thatailment frequency, shattering it
, and because I've gone throughthis experience of my own, I was
able to bring in.
Each one of these herbs have apurpose.
Each one of the herbs will helpyou heal in a way that you
never even knew you needed toheal, and also avoiding further
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problems, because I had virusesthat were attached inside of a
parasite and it's a.
It's a scientific thing thatthe parasites can hold six to
eight times their weight inviruses, heavy metals and spores
, and so when you're removingthem, they're also dropping all
of that into your body, thencreating those viruses that you
may never have had issues within life, and so you have to
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match those with a frequency ofan herb, and that's what I've
done, and then it allows you todig even deeper into how you
spiritually want to feelyourself and your intuition and
trusting yourself, because theyremove that from you so that you
lay low, so that you don'tremove them.
They are very smart and they'vebeen around longer than us and
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they'll be around longer than us.
It's just a fact, heck yeah,they will.
Yes, all of the mushrooms andthe Kundalini awakening helped
me get here.
Just so you guys know, that'show it all ties in.
This is how my spiritualjourney ties in to this.
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This is not something that youlearn in any books.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
You channeled a bunch of.
This is what you're saying Okay.
Yeah, no, God's source.
Whatever you got was comingthrough Like we got to get this
information out there.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Like whatever information came down I know I'm
talking like there were daysthat there was I was very black
and white, you guys very likeVery scientific, yeah, very
science.
I know I always did herbs andlike I've always been a plant
medicine lover and I've alwaysbeen alternative, but to a point
where it's like black and whiteyour body and how is that
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possible?
Like I need proof foreverything.
And one day I was like, listen,I'm going to do a bunch of
mushrooms and I'm going to sithere and I'm going to meditate
and if this is all true, like if, if this is all true, I'm going
to close my eyes, I'm going toput my headphones on.
My husband was working up onour um 26 foot carport that we
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were living under and I was like, if this is all the truth, I
need a sign.
I need something like come on,I'm not going to go and do any
of this without a sign.
I want some birds to fly aroundme.
Like I literally want a swarmof birds to fly around me.
Like doesn't have to be verylong, I just want it.
Yeah, I'm sitting there, my eyesare closed, my headset, my
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headphones are on, I'm listeningto the music, I look, I open my
eyes.
There's like one bird rightthere.
I'm like, yeah, that's not goodenough.
I close my eyes and guess what?
I felt it A swarm of birds wentaround me.
I believe it.
Yeah, and you know, all right,I'm going to do this.
Yeah, and then after that I'mlike that's it.
I know what is the truth.
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I know we need to cleanse, andnow I got to figure out what
we're cleansing.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Yeah, now I got to figure out what the hell I'm
talking about, so that, well,they went to they, they
channeled it to the right person, because you already had the
damn knowledge to make thishappen.
Right, if they told me that I'dbe I don't know what you people
are saying.
No, no, that's not my part, butokay.
So when you're asleep, do youuse the shrooms when you go to
bed or no?
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Nope, I just I lay down and I'll actually look at
my husband and go.
I'll see you in a few minutes,Cause I just go to sleep and I
wake right up.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Oh you lucky duck.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Does marijuana send you this?
How Does marijuana?
How do parasites feel aboutmarijuana?
I mean they, they it's fineLike they smoke, and yeah, they
don't, it doesn't really.
Plant medicine has never reallylike disrupted that in life.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
And I've done all my medicines.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
So except for ayahuasca, I've never done
ayahuasca.
I was going to do ayahuasca andthen my husband and I decided
to do Amanita and growpsilocybin.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
So and so that's what you're doing.
Are you going to start someproducts someday with the old
psilocybin?
It's like chocolate bars orsomething.
I don't know.
I've seen stuff.
I've ever typed so many friendsoh, go up into my profile.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Denver mycology is my favorite.
He is great I love them all.
But I've got microdose and thenI have mila, and all of them
are my friends that I chat withoften.
I know how.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
I'm going to look at that because I'm interested in
that myself.
Yeah, I would love to tell that.
I get kind of scared about thewhole ayahuasca journey thing,
cause you hear a story, like youknow, you're vomiting, you're
shitting, your I don't know, I'mjust not.
I think for me just open mybrain and chill and have a good
time and learn some things.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Totally, that's what I.
I did that for a while.
I just want to keep doing that.
I don't everyone's like oh,she'll call you and I'll be
honest, like she just doesn'tcall me and I'm sorry.
If you've done ayahuasca andyou've learned from it, that's
great, I'm so loving yourjourney and there's no judgment
here.
I just don't know if I can holdthe space to like be around
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people that are upset and cryingand throwing up and me be okay
with it.
I take everything on too, yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
No, I don't know.
I haven't felt called to likefully do that either, but I am.
I actually bought some candybar.
It says my, it's M Y N D mindor something like that, I don't
know but and it says it hasmicrodosing of psilocybin or
whatever.
Haven't done it yet.
Have you heard of, let me askyou, you know a lot about all
(35:38):
this plants.
Have you heard about mad honey?
What's the deal with the madhoney?
I just supposed to open up yourbrain.
Listen, because it's the, the.
These are feeding off some likespecial plant up in the middle
of wherever.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
So like the Himalayans or something like
that, joe Rogan, I don't know, Idon't know.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
I was scrolling one night and I probably had already
taken my gummy for bedtime andI ordered some.
I own some mad fucking honeyand I've been too scared to do a
thing with it.
I have mad honey and I don'tknow what the hell to do with it
.
I'm like, do I do it?
How much do I?
I'm a little bit nervous aboutit, but I don't even know if it
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was a legit enough site I got.
I don't know, but I saw the madhoney.
No, I'm interested in allnatural things that kind of give
us like an opening of funexperience or whatever, but I'm
still a little bit nervous aboutit.
So I'm going to be clicking onyour links of your trusted
people to see your trusted peeps, because that's what I need.
(36:41):
I need trusted people.
That's what we all need outthere.
Okay, guys, we're going to stopright there for part one of this
episode, but make sure you hopright into part two, because
we're going to go deep into thisparasite thing and talk a lot
about the Parify Cleanse.
Okay, see you on the nextepisode.
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And if you have like 30 secondsmore, could you leave a five
(37:29):
star rating and maybe leave akick-ass review.
Thank you so much and I can'twait to continue our journey on
the next episode.
Oh, and I can't forget the fineprint.
You know the legal jargon.
This podcast is presentedsolely for educational and
entertainment purposes.
We're just two friends on thisjourney together and this
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podcast is not intended as asubstitute for the advice of a
physician, professional coach,psychotherapist or any other
qualified professional.
You get it.
See you next time.
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