Haunted Legends and Cryptid Chronicles: A Journey Through Laughter and the Supernatural: Feat. Lyle Russell EPI 221

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Speaker 1 (00:24):
all right, everybody.
Thanks for coming back tohanging out hanging out in the
holler.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
All right, everybody.
Thanks for coming back toHanging Out.
Hanging Out in the Holler Iscrewed that up earlier At least
.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
So we just got back from Donnie's performance.
Yeah, we have really badperformance.
So, yeah, it was so bad, it wasgood.
Yeah, it really was.
Yeah, so bad, it was good, sobad it was good.
I don't know why Jasonbutchered the name.
What did you call it?
I called it happenings in theholler.

(00:54):
Happenings in the holler.
It's fine, though.
Alright, everybody, we havetonight with us Lyle Russell.
He was on a couple months ago.
Our good friend Lyle, how youbeen man doing great good, good
thanks for having me back.
Yes, oh yeah.
So last time you were on it wasmore about, uh, you were with
your wife and we were talkingwith the birds, right, right, um

(01:17):
, the raptors, right I'm sorry,I missed that one.

Speaker 4 (01:24):
I think I wasn't here either.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
I was on the camera.
I'm going to make it lookbetter.
Yeah, you weren't.
I know you weren't.
That was the first time I did apodcast by myself.
I was solo that night.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
Yeah, you were telling us that's the first time
you've done one by yourself ina long time, in a long long time
.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
I think it was at the time I had explosive diarrhea.
Yes, it was.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
Yeah, because you were coming and I was like good,
and then you didn't show up.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yeah, yeah, I sent a message and I think I was like I
had to put crime scene tapearound my toilet?
I don't know what's going on,but I had to.

Speaker 4 (01:54):
It might have been my birthday or something, or I
might still be hanging out inFlorida.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
I don't know, I don't know, but I watched most of it
on my phone, watching everythingelse.
It was really interesting.
I was like man, I'd really liketo be there.
Yeah, part of that, becausethose birds are very birdy,
you're correct, they'reinteresting, they're feathery.

(02:19):
Their hunting abilities is whatis amazing their eyesight,
their hunting abilities, and Iknow you didn't have the
Paraguay falcon with you.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
No, we were going to bring a bird, but uh, ben said
nah, probably shouldn't in arestaurant, so that's okay but
hearing you talk abouteverything else, I didn't think
you brought anything with it.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
but like that, if there's a special on uh, one of
the the educational tvs, oh yeah, and it's about the Paraguay
Falcon, you've got me lockeddown.
I watched Eagles and Hawks.
The Paraguay Falcon is hitting230, 400, 300 miles an hour.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
It's crazy.
It's Peregrine.
Paraguay is a country, butthat's okay, it's.

Speaker 4 (02:59):
Peregrine Falcon.
Why didn't somebody correct me?
You were going straight into it.
I didn't want to kill yourthunder.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
That's okay, you're passionate about it.
Paraguay yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
What about the?
I love the Paraguay falconbetter.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
They have falcons in Paraguay.
There may be one.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
What about the eagles ?
How was it coming along withthat?
Yeah, so we're actually waiting, right now to.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
we've got a grant out there that we're waiting to
hear back on and if we get thatgrant then we'll be able to
start building an Eagleenclosure and finish our license
to get an Eagle.
So we're really excited aboutthat.
That's going to be good.
If we get that, what about baldeagles?
Yeah, bald eagle, a gold eagle,golden eagle, I should say.
Tim says golden eagles yeah,and it'd be non-flighted, you
know.

(03:42):
So it would be one that wasrehabbed and couldn't be
released.
Oh gotcha we don't have enoughbackyard space for a flighted
eagle.
We'd need a big space for that.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
Those birds are large .

Speaker 1 (03:53):
They're huge you could go to Auburn one day.
I've seen it at Auburn, wherethey have them national anthem
and everything.

Speaker 4 (03:59):
Are you saying Auburn , auburn University, yeah, yeah,
yeah, nobody ever wants to gothere?

Speaker 1 (04:04):
Probably not.
What's another bird that Idon't think Tennessee's ever
done?

Speaker 5 (04:07):
Maybe they've done it once, the Auburn Tigers, but
then why do they have a wareagle?

Speaker 2 (04:10):
They got a bird.
They got a bird Because onetime they were doing something
and a turkey buzzard came flyingdown.

Speaker 4 (04:17):
They tried to say it was an eagle and it really
wasn't.
They kidnapped an eagle andthey made it a train to you.
It's all on Netflix.
You just go check it out.
Netflix has everything.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
Well, it's awesome.
So you guys do you have aFacebook page for that?

Speaker 3 (04:32):
We do Middle Tennessee Raptor Center.
Yeah, we've got all kinds ofstuff on there.
I believe you should go back tothat episode.

Speaker 4 (04:37):
I think it was in July.

Speaker 5 (04:39):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think so.

Speaker 4 (04:40):
The page was tagged Right.
You guys bust your ass on thatone.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
You really do.
That's all volunteer work.
For people that don't know thatit's not like a job, it's a
volunteer.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
Yeah, we have full-time jobs aside from that.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
Exactly, and you're all around everything, so you're
an author, also a podcaster,yeah, and you've been doing this
for how long now?

Speaker 3 (05:05):
a little over two years now.
I started in may of 2022 iswhen my first episode.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
So tennessee ghost and legends.
That's right podcast right,yeah um, and we talked about, I
think the first time you'dgotten on, you'd gotten rolling
and everything and why was itthat you picked that subject?
See, that's something I thinkis really good, yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
So when I first started coming up with the idea
of, okay, I want to have apodcast, this should be pretty
cool, and I had been on thisshow actually before I even
started it, god invited me overand I saw your setup and all
that and how much fun it is, andso I went and bought a cheap
rig and started to just, uh,just fool around with it, and
when I was looking at you know,I started researching and true

(05:50):
crime obviously is theblockbuster.
It seems like any true crimepodcast even if it's bad.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
Yeah, even if it's bad.
People, what are they like?
The crime porn or whatevermurder porn?
I don't know well is that whatit means, just like a bunch of
murder and mystery stuff, Idon't know.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
I said my wife watches murder porn Because if
you go in her TV, anytime she'swatching TV and it's just her.
It's some murder show, or it'sthat TV show Bones, which deals
in murder, or the Golden Girls,that's the three things she
watches.
Golden.

Speaker 5 (06:23):
Girls.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
Bones and other murders.
Sometimes it's murder makeup.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
This bitch puts on makeup while she's talking about
murders.
I've never heard of that one.
I'm not lying.
Have you.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
I can't say I've seen that one, but I believe you.
Oh, here, this is a murdermakeup podcast.

Speaker 5 (06:41):
Oh yeah, this is a thing.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
I know it is.
This is what Benji watches onhis free time?

Speaker 3 (06:47):
I don't watch this shit.
Fall break, that's the fallbreak.

Speaker 4 (06:50):
That's what he's doing on fall break Guilty
pleasure.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
Okay, yeah, so they're all about an hour long.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, hopefully wedon't get yeah, yeah.
So, let me play.
It takes her an hour to putmakeup on.
She looks like Angelina fromthe Jersey Shore.
Hang on, hang on.
We're going to get an ad, damnit.
All right, hang on, hang on,hang on.

(07:13):
Well yeah, we're going to getan.
Okay, so we'll go into likeshe's getting worse.
Yeah, she's not getting muchbetter.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
There you go.
That's a little better.

Speaker 5 (07:32):
This is riveting radio for the people listening.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
That's right.
That's right.
Well, that's why I didpodcasting, because I have a
face for radio.
So that's how it goes.

Speaker 4 (07:40):
And you were talking about this setup earlier.
I hate this setup because meand Bobo can't put it together.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
It kicks our ass.

Speaker 4 (07:49):
Mine isn't much better.
It's pretty rough.
It takes us 45 minutes to do athree-minute job.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
We had a guest on one time who was watching us
struggle, scream, threaten tobreak stuff.
He's waving a damn podcasttonight.
They said y'all should befilming that and put that on.
That's the best thing I've everseen it was terrible.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
Yeah, call it the B-sides.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
Hey, y'all did good with the mic and the karaoke out
there With.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
Donnie, yeah, yeah, I was proud of y'all.
Yeah, we just turned it on.
I mean, don't be stressed,Donnie did the rest.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
Donnie did the rest.
I was proud of you guys.
It is difficult, it isdifficult, and that's a good
subject right there.
So how difficult or was itdifficult to start to get the
ball rolling, because as apodcaster, it feels like you
don't really have that much, youdon't have a lot of guidance,
you're just, we're out here justdoing it.
Yeah Well.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
I had two influences that got me into.
What I ended up decided to dowas ghost stories, and so when I
was a kid, my grandmother gaveme a book and who knew how
prophetic this would be?
But y'all may have seen it.
Catherine Tucker Windham wrotethe 13 Tennessee Ghosts and
Jeffrey, and she's got 13Alabama ghosts and Jeffrey.
She had a ghost in her housenamed Jeffrey.

(09:00):
But, she lived here in Tennesseeand she wrote about southern
ghost stories, and so I got thatbook when I was about eight
years old.
I was living in Florida.
I never even remotely thoughtI'd live in Tennessee, but I
kept it for years.
That book's traveled with meall over the place, and so I'd
like to read it every now andthen, because I like ghost
stories.
I was a scoutmaster and I likesitting around the campfire with
all the kids.

Speaker 5 (09:20):
It's scary yeah classic and all that kind of
stuff.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
So I like to do that, and so when true crime was not
in the picture, because I don'tlook good in makeup.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
Have you ever tried?
I don't think it's really goingfor her man.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
Well, she's probably got a pretty significant phone.
Look 7.48 million subscribers.

Speaker 4 (09:39):
She's doing better than we are.
She's doing pretty good.
She's got about 7.8 millionmore than we do, that's a given.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
The other thing is I really like the podcast Lore
that turned into a TV show onAmazon.
All that is is one guy talkingand he's got some creepy music
that plays in the background,but he covers worldwide strange
phenomena and stuff like that.
I just wanted to focus on whereI live.
I like it here.
Everybody always told me aboutthe Sadie Baker legend in Coffey
County.

(10:10):
Let's go out to the cemeteryand let's see what it's all
about.
That was my very first one Wentout to the cemetery, found the
grave sat there, didn't feelweirded out.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
Anything?
Yeah, yeah, was it Also weirdedout anything?
Yeah, yeah, was it.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
And you guys also go ahead right out of the road.
I didn't mean to cut y'all, butyou know, not around the road
but going towards clark's, wegot one of the more famous
legends and bell witch, yes, Idid one on that one.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
That was my season one finale.
Okay, yeah, so I'm up to about16 now have you ever been to the
bell witch cave?
I haven't.
Every time I drive up there Ithreaten to do it.
It's creepy, creepy.

Speaker 4 (10:44):
Like you said, sadie Baker, I used to take the
trainees up there and drop themoff.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
What a great training officer you are the trainees,
not the trainees, the trainees.

Speaker 4 (11:02):
Like new people that are riding with me.
Get out of here.
I thought you were like youknow.
You arrested them and then youthrew them out.
There, the trainees Like newpeople that are riding- with me,
get out of here free.
King of the Week, I thought youwere like you know, you
arrested him and then you threwhim out there.
I just dropped him off in one.

Speaker 5 (11:12):
I was like well you're cleaning the city up.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
You drop him off in the county.
Is that a county?
It is.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
I won't name names, but one night we had this guy go
.
I won't name names, problem.
But one night, um, we had thisguy.
He was riding with me andgranted he was.
I look over and we're goingdown highway 55 and he's I hear.
I'm like he's asleep.
It's like two, three in themorning.
I was like, all right, so I'llpull off onto what's that road,
uh the one that it's on yeah thecemetery, oh, concord cemetery,

(11:44):
I don't remember the road, yeah, yeah I pull off and I park up
there and I kind of get out ofthe car and he wakes up.
He's looking around.
He's like what's going on?
I was like.
I was like you ever heard ofsadie baker the witch.
He's like, yeah, I was likelook, I shine like at the
headstone.
He starts freaking out it'sjust a gravestone.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
It really is so you didn't hear anything or nothing
like that.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
No, but when I went out there, though it was kind of
cool, because people still gothere.
They believe in the legend,which is fine.
They go there quite often andthey leave stuff on the
headstone.
So when I went out there, therewas you know, the coin is the
story significance.
There was flowers, there was alight-up rose or something like
that, but one of the strangestthings was there was a green
bottle.

(12:24):
It was empty, thank goodness,but it said unfiltered poison on
the bottle and it was sittingon the headstone and I thought
that's really weird, because whywould it matter if it's
filtered?
If it's poison, it's poison.
I don't think I'm gonna careabout the taste if it's gonna
kill me, but yeah, so they hadall these strange there was a
horseshoe there and so I I tooka picture of it.
I thought it was pretty cool.

(12:44):
And then I happened to talk tosomebody who was one of the
caretakers and they said thatthey not that day.
It was a different day, butthey said they cleaned that
grave off all the time.
Yeah, people leave stuff on itall the time.

Speaker 4 (13:05):
I'm convinced if you read the witchcraft I think it
was she was uh, she's just verybeautiful and the women weren't
not so beautiful.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
Well, and that's what I found when I started working
on a lot of these stories.
You know, you start looking atthe real stories behind the
legend, because even if it's alegend, there's always a just a
thread of truth in theresomewhere, um, and I actually
think that that story.
Don't get mad at me out thereif you believe in it, but I
think that story was made up tobe a cautionary tale, probably
by somebody who was a big-timechurchgoer the town folk back

(13:35):
then.
Yeah, I was trying to warnpeople against the, the sin of
envy and jealousy and all thatstuff.
Um, she was probably just agirl who unfortunately died.
Um, but she's not buried there.
The lady who was buried therewas 68 or something like that
when she passed away.
So there's real cemeteryrecords that say that.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
Hey y'all.
Dano, did I get it right?
Sure Dano, no, but yes, dano.

Speaker 4 (14:01):
You got it right for you.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
Dano, you can do it.
Hey, askin, have you ever beento Hales Bar?

Speaker 3 (14:09):
H-A-L-E?
I have not.
Is that the one on theTennessee River going towards
Chattanooga?
Right there by the railroadcrossing, there's another one.

Speaker 4 (14:17):
Another one asking have you ever heard of Hano Ward
Bridge, which I'm pretty surethat's in Alabama?

Speaker 3 (14:23):
I have heard of that one, but I'm not familiar with
it.

Speaker 4 (14:25):
If I'm not mistaken, it's just right over the state
line, I believe, or somethinglike that.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
The Tennessee River.
Yeah, okay, so when you'regoing, across the Nickajack.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
Right there at the bridge going towards Chattanooga
.
If you're coming from our way,if you look out to the left down
the river, there's like apartial dam that sticks out in
the river and supposedly that'sone of the most haunted places
in tennessee.
Um, I haven't done a show onthat yet, but it's on my list,
so I've got to do a little bitmore research on that one before
I before I can put together.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
How do you do your research like where do you find?
Is it just one source that youfind all this from, or where do
you, where do you get?

Speaker 3 (15:04):
no, I, you know, of course the internet makes things
very easy, but I do have apretty significant book
collection.
I'm big history nerd anyway and, uh, you know.
So some of those things, I canpluck some of the real history
out of the areas that I'mlooking for.
Um, I do a lot, obviously, alot, of internet research, um,
and when I get the chance, Ilike to talk to people who live
around where it is.

(15:24):
I don't always get thatopportunity, but those
word-of-mouth stories are someof the best ones, because you're
not reading something thatsomebody wrote and says oh, I
want to make sure I get plentyof clicks and shares on this one
.
You actually get somebodytelling the verbal story.
In my opinion, that's the bestpart about podcasting.
That's the oldest form ofcommunication.
Even prehistoric people sataround fires and told stories,

(15:46):
you know.
So 12 000 years of verbalcommunication is how this
started, and here we are.

Speaker 4 (15:52):
We're not that much further evolved, I suppose but
of course you know, you know thewhole.
What is it?

Speaker 3 (15:57):
the ovoka road old orphanage yeah, the one that
burned down in toloma, yeah, youever been out there I had I
where it is.
I haven't been to the site yet.

Speaker 4 (16:06):
So we've been out there because back when we were
teenagers we got wind and wewere always going out there.
We didn't realize somebodylived on the property.
Oh yeah, but yeah, it getscreepy out there, especially
when it gets low light towardthe end of the day.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (16:25):
My buddy.
Well, y'all know him, old Tyree, he swears up and down he's
seen somebody by the water thatdisappeared.

Speaker 3 (16:28):
I've heard a few people tell me that the cemetery
right outside Public Works.
Over there in Tullahoma there'sa pretty large cemetery with a.
Confederate graveyard there andthey've said that they've seen
people walking around out there,that there's nobody there Now,
of course, you know where theCitizen Cemetery is.

Speaker 4 (16:44):
Yeah, have you ever been out there?

Speaker 5 (16:45):
I have, so I will take this to my grave oh here we
go, no pun intended.

Speaker 4 (16:53):
So you know the little forklift shop right
behind it, yeah, so we got acall.
It was probably about 20, 30minutes before it got dark and
we got a call.
The alarm went off.
So we met another officer, wentout there and, um, get out
there, walk around the building,see, nothing's there.
And I look over toward becauseI didn't know that was a
graveyard, oh yeah, because thiswas six, seven years ago.

(17:14):
And I look up and I'm likejacob, I'm pretty sure there's a
guy.
I was like I swear I just seena guy over there.
So we start walking Well, wedidn't know what it was, we just
this little, this field, andthen we stumble over this big
rock and I'm like so awful,weird shaped rock.
And then we get to walk onfurther and then we start

(17:34):
noticing these are graves, yeah.
And then we come up on the onegrade that's over there.
They leave the pennies there,yes, and that's when I figured
out what it was.
But I swear I saw somebodystanding there and when we got
up there they were gone.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
Yeah, that grave that you found there.
I can't remember the lady'sname who's buried there.
But there's markings on herheadstone that are associated
with witchcraft, so everybodythinks she was another witch in
Tullahoma too.
I can't think of what her namewas.
I was just talking to somebodyabout this a couple days ago.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
But it's creepy because that cemetery out there
there's not even any streetlights around it.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
It is dark, yeah, and it's oh man, so it's out there.
Then, well, it's really not.
It's not right off of 55, oh,okay, okay, it's back behind,
where the coca-cola bottlingplant is.

Speaker 4 (18:16):
Near that site, there's a there's a headstone
out there that kind of said Ithink it has to have all the
names or just says there's 30people buried.
There's no grave markers.
It's actually an old slavecemetery.

Speaker 3 (18:26):
That's what it is.
Yeah, it's a mass grave.
Yeah, that's what it is.

Speaker 4 (18:30):
Right, here's the thing.
Let's see if we can pull it uphere.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
But because I like history.
You know I actually spend a lotof time in graveyards when I do
family research.
You know I do gravestonerubbings and stuff like that.
I know it's nerdy, but I liketo do it, it's called camp four,
cemetery aka citizens.
Yeah, but that that's kind ofwhat got me into it and I I
enjoy it.
You know, I don't get scaredreal easy.
Um, there are creepy things outthere, but uh, it doesn't

(18:53):
bother me to go into a graveyardat night, but that one back
there behind there, that iscreepy it's a naturally creepy
area.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
Yeah, it really is like a kind of an eerie, like an
eerie feeling, or do you justkind of feel like somebody is
watching you?
It's just kind of an eeriefeeling.
It's very eerie.

Speaker 3 (19:08):
It's old, there's nothing about it that's new.
Even the fence and the areaaround it's kind of old, not
really run down, but just old,and it's wooded.
There's just a real faint lightfrom Highway 55.
I've been back there a coupletimes at night, I won't say why.
So I've been back there acouple times at night, I won't
say why.
Yeah, I've been back there acouple times at night, one time.

Speaker 4 (19:31):
I went out there owl watching one time with the bird
thing.
We had a guy running off.
He was actually running from usoff the Highway 55.
And we had another.
This was like 12 in theafternoon and we had to drive
back there because the oldrailroad tracks cut through
there and we walked throughthere and had to go through that
little cemetery.
And it was creepy during theday, especially when you get off
in the woods and then you getto, uh like, where the old
tracks are, because it kind ofgives that blair witch vibe back

(19:52):
there.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
Yeah, it's really creepy, but it says that the
grave belongs to melinda wrote.

Speaker 4 (19:56):
That's it wrote.
Her marker is a pillar waisthigh.
The line on top initials, rcf.
There is faithful member of themagic circle number 81.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
Died in 1914 yeah, I got a question.
You you go to all these spotsand you do your research and
everything else, but have youever gone out and not just got
like a creepy feeling you talkabout, like believe yourself
that you saw or heard something?

Speaker 3 (20:22):
yeah, not necessarily in any of my research, but one
of the episodes I did was juston my personal experiences.
Um, I've had experiences intennessee and in florida when I
lived down there, even before Ieven thought of having a podcast
.
Um, so I mean, I I do believein the supernatural.
Uh, maybe not to the point oflike witches and that sort of
thing, but I do believe thatthere are spirits.

(20:43):
And can you give us an example?

Speaker 1 (20:44):
just like a white boy or something like.

Speaker 3 (20:46):
Yeah well, so the very first experience I ever had
.
Um, you know, my dad and mystepmom got divorced and my half
sister went with my stepmom andI stayed in the house with my
dad and I had because of the theshifting of families a room
opened up it was my, my youngersister's room, and I wanted to
be in that room and so I juststarted moving my furniture over

(21:07):
there and so one night my dadwas out and I was young, I was
probably in middle school, maybe13, you know, 12 years old,
something like that and um, Icould hear.
You know how when you'retalking to a fan, you know the
whole luke, I am your father andit makes that sound.
So I was in there getting stuffput away.
Nobody was home but me.
I heard a voice very plain asday, like they were talking into

(21:28):
a fan, calling for mommy.
It was a little girl's voice.
We had a neighbor at the timewho had a granddaughter that
would come visit her on theweekends.
Sometimes, when I told my dadabout it, he's like, oh, maybe
it was just the neighbor's kids,maybe she was outside.
We saw the neighbor a coupledays later was uh, I can't
remember her granddaughter'sname.
Was she over this weekend?
They said no, she hasn't beenhere in a couple of weeks.

(21:51):
Well then, a friend of my dad'shappened to be over, and he was
sitting in one of our ourdownstairs rooms at that time
and he heard it, so that thatvalidated for me that, you know,
I heard something that wasn'tthere, and now somebody else has
heard something that wasn'tthere, and there were some other
things that happened in thehouse.
We had some pictures that gotflipped around on the wall that

(22:11):
weren't that way when we left.
When we came back, though, theywere all turned around.
My dad he had a really good35-millimeter camera and he used
to get the 4x6 pictures printed, and so he had all these
pictures of my sister stuck inthe door, jam around his bedroom
door, and so we left one night.
When we came back, all thepictures were turned around,
facing the other way against thewall, and so he was like this

(22:33):
was not like this when we leftand nobody's been in the house.
So how did that get like that?
So so I mean, from an early ageI had a couple of weird
experiences then when I moved uphere, um, the house I lived in
in Nestle Springs.
I know that was haunted.
There's no doubt in my mind.
My son's room.
He used to sleep with the lighton and where I would sit in my
office I could see into his roomand I saw shadows go by his

(22:55):
door and of course he was young,he was maybe four and so I
thought he's out of bed again.
I'm going to have to go inthere and get your butt in bed
and I would go in there and he'sdown to sleep.
But I saw a person's shadow goright by that door multiple
times.
Nobody's in there, so there'sno doubt in my mind that was
haunted have you talked aboutthat?

Speaker 1 (23:13):
on elko, what you better say no I just reminded me
of my, my one experience.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
I'm I, I'm in between .
I believe there's a possibility, but uh, when I was living in
upstate New York, there was apond.
We knew for a fact that in the70s there was a little girl who
drowned in this pond it was likea picnic area for families,
stuff like that.
That part is 100% fat.
It's called Remington Pond.

(23:39):
We always heard this is haunted, this is haunted.
One night about midnight we hadnothing to do, so three of us
went out there and we weregoofing off and we were being
disrespectful, I'll be honest.
We were going hey, little girl,come here, when you at, when
you at, Just doing that.
And in a moment of silence.
So there was three of us kindof in a semicircle From back.

(24:03):
We didn't come from either ofthese two guys.
I know I didn't say it, weheard come here.
And we all just froze.
And we looked at each other andI looked at one of the guys and
said did you say that?
And the third guy goes, alittle girl saying come here.
And we all kind of did thatScooby-Doo.

Speaker 5 (24:22):
And wow, we made trash.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
We didn't know If it was one of those two guys.
All three of us talked about it.
We all promised it wasn't us,but if one of the two guys did,
they had the greatestventriloquist in the history of
mankind.
I know I didn't say anything.
I heard it clear as day, but itwas like a distance.
Come here, were you ready?

Speaker 4 (24:41):
to start throwing punches.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
I was ready.
Ooh yeah, Were you ready tostart throwing punches?

Speaker 1 (24:48):
I was ready to start shooting.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
I thought you were about to say I was ready to
start shitting.
Oh, I was.
That too Could have been alittle bit of that too, we were
on duty, we were digging off.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
What about you, Tyler ?
You had any experiences?
I mean because you did a lot ofnight shift, I mean not just
night shift, but just you knowin high school High school.

Speaker 4 (25:06):
Come on Anything.
No, like we all went to theSkidmore Lane thing in Franklin
County.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
I never seen it, skidmark Lane.

Speaker 4 (25:13):
Yeah, then there was, of course we went down to the
Avoca thing a few times in highschool.
I mean it's creepy down there,like I said, like michael swears
up and down like eerie feelingsbut nothing like david like I
think kayla was with me one timewhen we were first together and
I was like it looked likesomebody, but then it didn't, so
I wasn't really sure.
She swears up and down, I don'tknow, but uh, like I said, the

(25:35):
citizen cemetery, when I wassure there was somebody there.
And then, um, have you everbeen in the civic center at
night?
I have that is.
I don't know if it's just how,just because it's creepy or what
, but you just hear creaks andnoises and so they have a spirit
in there that they call thecolonel and several of them have
heard it and seen it.

Speaker 3 (25:55):
The colonel almost got shot one night, so it was me
, and now we know what happenedto all the windows.

Speaker 4 (26:01):
Yeah, so somebody used to take cardboard cuts out
of people and they would stickthem in the windows right and it
would scare the crap out of you.
So one day the door was wideopen oh shit, this place is.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
Oh god, dude, you're gonna go to this place the first
time we get there.

Speaker 4 (26:20):
the door wasn't open but it was unlocked.
So we, we I call him like hey,can somebody come here?
So somebody else goes with me.
We're walking through thebuilding, Of course my
flashlight is on my gun, so ofcourse I'm looking around and I
just remember we went upstairs.
I come around the corner.
There's a cardboard cutout.

Speaker 3 (26:41):
I was like well, that almost got a bullet in it.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
That almost got a bullet, as we're coming out.

Speaker 4 (26:52):
I'm checking my pants to make sure I haven't leaked
anything, because I'm back herecrying now.
I remember coming down thestairs and my flashlight it kind
of flickers.
I'm like that's odd.
And then we start hearing it.
I swear it sound like footstepsbehind us.
Yeah, at this point, you everseen ghost hunters?
When he's like dude run, I'mlike dude run and I'm I'm
certain if my flashlight dies,I'm shooting my way out so I can
see you with the muzzle flash,I'm shooting my way out of this

(27:15):
plane.
And then the second time we gotout there and it wasn't late, it
was maybe nine, ten o'clock andthe door was open.
There was no cars there.
And I just remember going up tothe door and I'll look in there
in a lot and I just hear itjust creaking.
And that's where it sounds likesomebody's walking right in
front of you and we get a callso nobody's available to help.

(27:35):
And I'm like you know what Iholler.
I was like if you're in here,good luck.
I just shut the door and itlocked behind.
I was like I'm done, I'm notgoing here by.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
Well, that's exactly what they've described to me.
I've talked to some of thefolks that work there and they
said that's their big thing.
They hear footsteps all thetime and every floor in there is
made out of old, you knowtwo-inch thick plank, just like
this, and you know you get heavyfootsteps on it.
You're going to hear it from along ways away and they all say
they hear footsteps in there allthe time.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
No way.
Speaking of that, you know whatit reminds me of, and Bobo will
know this.
Oh god Of the the elementaryschool In.
Lynchburg, underneath theauditorium, yeah Hell, yeah
Scary, yeah that one.
And then underneath the gym.
You know what?

Speaker 2 (28:17):
I'm talking about oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
The locker room With like a little.
I mean it's literally like a, alamp.
First off it's all dark.
The hallway's dark old school,1940s, 50ish vibes.
It's completely dark like ifthere's a ball that went down
there.
As kids we didn't go get itthat ball was lost forever and
as of today, there's a pile ofballs.

Speaker 4 (28:38):
So when I was subbing down there.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
It's first starting out.
I was like, all right, ben,you're a grown-ass man, go down
there, and you know like.
Because the kids are asking.
I was like all right, bud,you're a grown-ass man, go down
there, and you know like becausethe kids are asking.
I was like all right, go, yougotta, you gotta do this.
And uh, so I peeked into one ofthe rooms.
Finally it was like a lockerroom and the one light that was
in there was kind of whateverlight, whatever color, that is
just amber light, and that wasit in that room oh man, oh, I

(29:02):
don't get scared easy, but Iwould have probably creeped out
on thatso have you ever been?
That was the last time, even asan adult.
Yeah, I was like no no, it'sgone, the belvedere community
center no, I know where it is.

Speaker 4 (29:16):
But so my sister got married there and of course I
didn't see or hear anything.
It was just the creepiness ofit.
So there's like stairs that godown and I'm like what's down
here?
And I walked down there, flipthe light on.
It's like one of these littleamber lights in the center of a
room and it's just destroyed.
Down there it looks like oh, itlooks like oh man yeah I
remember I just shut the lightoff.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
I'm just going, I'm not even going to tell you yeah,
yeah, that's exactly what thegym that locker room.
So well, how many podcasts haveyou done and all.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
So I've got 16 episodes out there.
I'm going to have to rerecordone because I told you all
before we went on air but I madethe mistake of not checking my
microphone hookups and the audiocame out terrible and I didn't
know it until after I publishedit.
So I've got to redo that one,but I've just done 16.
I got kind of caught up inschool for a little bit so I had

(30:05):
to go through, finish my degreeup and so that put me behind a
little bit.
So you know I feel bad that thepeople who do like it have been
like dude, it's been six months.
Are you gonna put out anotherepisode?

Speaker 1 (30:13):
yeah, I'd get emails.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
Sometimes you need a uh, a summer break, that's right
, that's right.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
I was just on sabbatical.
We had one once we tooksabbatical last fall last winter
, yeah.

Speaker 4 (30:24):
Yeah, we took a long one that was about six months,
and then we started back up thisJanuary.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
Yeah, we did Hopping in the holler.

Speaker 4 (30:30):
Yeah, hopping in the holler.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
I was looking at our.
I'm the one that came up withthe damn name.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
I screwed up.
You did come up with the name,you did.

Speaker 4 (30:38):
I was looking at our Because I've got saved a.
Google docs are like our setlist for the year.
Yeah, it's, it's been very busyyear.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
Yeah, and we have it has yeah, on your podcast that
you do, is it mainly just youtelling ghost stories?
You bring in other people whohave had the experience.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
No, it's it's just me .
I'm not ashamed.
I'm not ashamed of it.
I copied um aaron mankey's loreformat.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
It's just me talking with creepy music in the
background, see that's what Ilike, though there's a podcast
that I a scary podcast, and theguy's voice is really kind of
bland.
I don't know why I listen to itand that bland monotonous on
the on the subject.
Like it works but he doesn't addany music to it or creepy, and

(31:22):
I'm like man, this is kind ofreally not what you're going for
.
But have you thought about dopeople email you, oh yeah, with
ideas about what they've had?
Is that something?
Because I know what you'redoing right now is the Tennessee
.
You're going with the history,right With Tennessee Ghost Will.
One day you may open up to say,like people, like personal

(31:45):
stories, you know?

Speaker 5 (31:45):
what I'm saying Like people's personal stories.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
And then just like for 30 minutes.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
But like 30 minutes you could just be talking
Because you've got that voice.

Speaker 5 (32:00):
Oh, thank you I appreciate that You've done the
voice on here before and I waslike oh shit, you put some music
on that.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
Yeah, I try that.
You've done the voice on herebefore and I was like, oh shit,
you put some music on that.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
Yeah, I try to be a little monotone and a little bit
deeper.

Speaker 4 (32:11):
You came up here to the old.
What is that?
The old funeral home slash.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
Kimmy.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
Harrison's home, yeah , booger's house.

Speaker 3 (32:19):
I'm aware of it, but that's where I really want to
start doing some more local ones, and I am not an investigator,
but I understand there areseveral groups around here that
do it.
I would really like to get withone of them.
We could Do you have keys?
We'll go over there after thisif you want.

Speaker 4 (32:38):
I've heard the old jails haunted over there.
Old jail, miss Mary.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
Bobo's, Of course this place.

Speaker 4 (32:43):
I've heard this place .
No, actually I'll go back.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
When you say personal , I will say Miss Mary Bobo's,
I've had something weird happenover there, but not like a voice
or anything, but I've had someweird.

Speaker 4 (32:58):
When my wife worked over there, we were still dating
then.
That's when she was justgraduating high school.
You were probably there too,benji, because I think you came
a year after her.
Yeah, yeah, so we're.
I remember it's one of the veryrare nightmeals they would have
.
Oh, yeah, I'm like I'm gonnapick her up like this yeah, like
this time, right here, and Ijust remember being downstairs

(33:21):
and saw somebody go by and thenI'm like hey, and then nothing.
I was oh, okay, whatever, well,I go back.
And then kayla comes out andsomebody else.
I was like hey, somebody wasjust down here.
They're like no, there's not.
It was like everybody thatwe've had, like we, we we've,
we've watched them.
They're here upstairs.
I'm like no, I think I swearsomebody's walking around down

(33:41):
here right now.
And then that somebody was likeno, no, that's probably
so-and-so, miss Brain, bobo orsomebody, the ghost.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
I'm like oh See, I got one.
My wife and I are talking aboutgoing to in the spring, when it
gets nicer again.
Of course it's been nice today,but anyways, going up to Brushy
Mountain, and I've heard, a lotof stories about Brushy
Mountain.
A lot of stories about BrushyMountain, Because they've turned
into a tourist attraction withthe restaurants and you can take
tours.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
They've got a brewery in there.
Is that the prison, or whateverOne?

Speaker 2 (34:10):
of the harshest prisons, at least the southeast.

Speaker 4 (34:12):
Jamie Johnson plays a show like once a week.
He does, I swear he does.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
All the time?
Have you ever looked in anddone any investigating?
Oh yeah, I've done a show onthat one.

Speaker 3 (34:25):
Oh, oh, yeah, I've done a show on that one.
That's, uh, episode seven.
Yeah, episode seven was thatone and um, that one.
I actually, when I did theresearch on it, I actually left
a lot of stuff out that I found,because there's a whole lot of
history for the.
For some reason that one had alot of history.
The tennessee state prison hadvery it was very hard to find
stuff on that one, but brushymountain, um, it was awful when
it was functional.
Yeah, it's even worse now thatit's not.

(34:45):
Um, you know some of thestories and things I found in
there.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
I actually put a listener advisory at the
beginning because some of thedescriptions of the prison
violence, that I've watched someshows on them talking about
some paranormal shows, and theytalked about brushing mountain
and they said that some of thethe entities or the ghosts or
spirits, whatever it is, willactually turn violent on, like
some of the people out there,like they'll be scratched up or

(35:10):
cut up or whatever you want tocall it so in one of the youtube
videos that I found when I wasresearching, they had a
investigator go in there and hedidn't.

Speaker 3 (35:17):
he wasn't attacked or anything like that, but what he
did is went to a cell wherethere was a prisoner, supposedly
, who did attack people when hewas there, and so he took a lit
cigarette and he placed it onthe bars and he shut all of his
lights off except for his camera, and apparently I think the
prisoner's name was leroy or itwas l, something I can't
remember, but he said the guy'sname.
He said hey, I got a cigarettehere if you want some.

(35:38):
And as soon as he said that,the red herring on that
cigarette flared up likesomebody was inhaling from the
other side the prison doors arelocked so you can't get to the
inside of that and fool that,and he had it on film that this
was going on and he turns thelights back on and the
cigarette's just smoking away.
Oh, wow.
So yeah, that was pretty creepy.

Speaker 4 (35:57):
I know it just recently closed from being a
prison.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
Yeah, like 15, 20 years, right, 20 years, yeah, I
mean like for a prison that wasbuilt.

Speaker 4 (36:05):
It was like 1870s or something like that.

Speaker 3 (36:07):
Yeah, it's, it's fairly new for being closed down
yeah, and it was actually thesort you know y'all are big
tennessee fans.
You mean the tennessee erniewilliams, his song 16 ton.
That was written about the coalminers at brushy mountain and
then you've got.

Speaker 4 (36:21):
Was it james earl ray was?

Speaker 2 (36:22):
james earl is probably the most famous inmate
that was ever there.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
I did get to talk to a guy who I can't remember I
went to.
Let me rephrase that I went toa talk where a guy who he either
worked there or he did a veryshort stint there and he
actually said that the scariestthing about that prison when he
was there was not the otherinmates, it was the rattlesnakes
.
He said there was rattlesnakeseverywhere.
He said they'd come in theprison and the guards would
shoot them from the towers theywere huge.

Speaker 4 (36:46):
I've heard that was why nobody ever ran from the
prison.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
Well, this, it, this was a rumor.
I don't.
I couldn't find proof of it,but they said james earl ray had
several bites when theyrecovered him when he tried to
escape yeah, I've heard that'sthe reason that there were no
real walls around that prison.

Speaker 4 (36:59):
It was because nobody would go in the mountains.

Speaker 3 (37:02):
Yeah, yeah, because there were so many rattlesnakes
all over the place.

Speaker 4 (37:07):
It was that moonshiners, wasn't it?

Speaker 2 (37:08):
Yeah, they were afraid of moonshiners, I've
heard that once you brought itup and y'all talked about it, it
was out in some of those things.
I watched the warden one of thewardens one time.
He said go ahead and try toescape.

Speaker 3 (37:25):
The rattlesnakes are going to get you and if that
don't some of the other wildlifewill.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
Something's going to get you.

Speaker 3 (37:27):
You're safer here than you are out there, and it's
basically it's in a cut in themountains.
So there's three sides, thereare sheer walls, it's surrounded
by water, there's a creek thatruns on every side of it, and
then the only way in and out isthe front, and so when they
tried to escape through theslopes I guess yeah, or ray, and
I want to say it was like sixor seven other ones when they
found James Earl Ray, he wastore up.

(37:48):
It wasn't good for him.
I want to compliment y'all tooon the ambiance here for a
Halloween episode.
You've got your orange andblack on.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
I know it's for.

Speaker 5 (37:58):
Tennessee but you've got the amber

Speaker 4 (38:00):
lights.
I like it.
It's dark in here.
We started this a couple monthsago, because it got real bright
in here, yeah, and then we'relike let's shut the lights off.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
Yeah Well, I honestly oh y'all didn't do this for me.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
No, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
Well, forget it then I'm taking that back.
Yeah, we did Learn to take acompliment.

Speaker 4 (38:21):
Yeah really.

Speaker 5 (38:22):
I got to make sure I cover this side of my head.
We have been suspended.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
The video has been taken down for alcohol.
It's been such a pain in theass because they'll take us down
for the alcohol and everything.

Speaker 4 (38:33):
But they'll show anything else on.
Yeah, really, yeah anything youwant.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
Big old booties and big old yeah.

Speaker 4 (38:41):
But no, you can't Not this sign here, that Chuck
spent his hard earned money on.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
Do you have any ideas ?
You said you wanted to try tohit more local.
Do you have any ideas that youmay be working on when you're
coming up?
Kind of give a teaser to thepeople who are able to listen to
your podcast that you're goingto be coming up with.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
Oh yeah so my last episode that I just did was on
the uh, snake charmer, fiddlersrock that's over near mountain
city, um, over by the NorthCarolina Virginia border, and
then I've got three more thatare already kind of planned out,
Um, but then when I start thenext season, which will be um 21
.
I'm going to try to start doinga little bit more local and I'm

(39:24):
actually going to go try to seeif I can get some places that
will.
Let me record on the site.
Because then, you never know,you could pick up something on
one of these microphones and Imight have a guest and not know
it.

Speaker 4 (39:37):
You were talking about the Brushy Mountain and
the ghost, yeah.
So I type in Brushy Mountain,state Penitentiary, ghost, guess
what.
The first thing that pops up islyle russellnet.

Speaker 3 (39:45):
oh no, kidding, yeah how about that man right at the
bottom?
I'm here all week.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
Try the wheel, joshua one of our uh listeners, joshua
pax, says you need to check outsouth pittsburgh hospital I
have heard of that and that's onmy it's on my radar, on your
list yeah I haven't gotten intoit yet, but that's on the radar.

Speaker 3 (40:04):
I don your list.
Yeah, I haven't gotten into ityet, but it's on the radar.
I don't know anything aboutthat one.
I've heard that it's a lot likea prison, but it was a hospital
.
I don't know if that one was amental institution or if it was
just a regular hospital but, I,understand it wasn't a pleasant
place to be.

Speaker 4 (40:17):
I had a buddy a couple months ago weeks ago,
he's actually the deputy here hejust went to Waverly Hills and
he said that he was a bigdisappointment.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
Really.

Speaker 4 (40:26):
Yeah, he said nothing .

Speaker 1 (40:28):
Yeah, what about the Lincoln County Hospital?

Speaker 4 (40:31):
I don't fool Lincoln County either.
If you go to the old Lincoln.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
County Hospital you might get somebody to say you're
crack rock.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
Okay, all right, all right, all right.
I just had heard.

Speaker 3 (40:42):
But when I try to research places and I really
want to convey the story in anot necessarily all in a scary
way to you, I like to tell thereal history of it.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
So even like with Sadie Baker, something that's
kind of creepy but also credible.

Speaker 3 (40:57):
Yeah, that you can tie to the real world, like, hey
, I've actually seen that, Iknow what that is, or I know
where that place is.
I seen that, I know what thatis, or I know where that place
is.
I've been in that house beforeyou know that kind of stuff.
I like to tie it to a realhistorical thing that happened.
So that way there's, you know,even if I am making the story up
, at least you've got a realplace say, hey, that's where
that actually happened orsupposedly happened yeah, it
says those ghosts name at brushymountain or leroy, james and

(41:19):
ben leroy, that was.
Yeah, that was the one.

Speaker 4 (41:22):
He sounds like somebody who'd take a drag off a
cigarette.

Speaker 3 (41:24):
Yeah, yeah, Apparently he was not a good
person apparently, yeah.

Speaker 4 (41:29):
But look, it pops back up again.
Lyle Russell.
Awesome, look at you, man.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
Will you go?
So yours is all audio, Mm-hmm.
Will you go live?
Somehow has it ever kind oframbled in your mind about going
?

Speaker 3 (41:43):
I would say that if I ever did a show where I had a
guest or something like that, Iprobably would.
Okay, nobody wants to see mejust sitting there talking,
because I literally have madethis in my closet, in my my wife
.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
That's kind of spooky though oh, it is well so.

Speaker 3 (41:55):
My wife has a ebay empire is what I call it.
She is the queen of resellingon ebay and she's got a whole
room in our house.
That's what I'm talking aboutthe closet in that room is my
recording studio and half of itis her eBay empire.
There may be creepy dolls orsomething behind me.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
You need to do that.
You need to put one of thoseAnnabelle dolls behind you.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
Annabelle and Chucky in the background.

Speaker 5 (42:20):
I know.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
Chucky's more the horror flick.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
Have you seen the new Terrifier Any?

Speaker 4 (42:28):
fans of those I've not even heard of it.
It's the stupidest.
I don't like it.

Speaker 3 (42:32):
What is it?
I have not heard of that.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
Oh, okay, so it's Art the Clown, art the Clown.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
They're saying like it's the new they do the memos
on yeah like this one.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
Yeah, this guy, yeah, yeah.
So it did better than Joker 2.
It's like number one, right?

Speaker 4 (42:52):
now, I never watched.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
Joker 1.
So I don't watch it.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
So I heard.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
Joker 2 was terrible because it was more like a
musical.

Speaker 4 (43:00):
Yeah.
So you're never going to beatHeath Ledger's Joker Not in my
opinion.
So you're never going to beatHeath Ledger's Joker Not in my
opinion.

Speaker 3 (43:06):
No, Now Jared Leto.
Jack Nicholson was pretty good.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
Jack Nicholson Don't throw old Jack-a-roni out,
jack's just an entity to himself, jared.

Speaker 4 (43:14):
Leto could have had a really good one.
I had high hopes for him.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
I think it was a lot of the writing.

Speaker 4 (43:21):
I'm wondering so have you seen the Batman yet?

Speaker 3 (43:23):
Yes writing, I mean, you know I'm wondering so have
you seen the batman yet?
Yes, so I'm wondering whothey're going to bring in as the
joke and that joker was prettygood too, because he's a lot the
in the prison when he's justgot those scenes where you can't
see him.

Speaker 4 (43:32):
But he's there.
He's there.
Yeah, I'm wondering who they'regoing to bring in just for it
the batman?

Speaker 3 (43:38):
um, the guy who played the joker in the uh
gotham television show, thered-haired guy, I can't think of
his name.

Speaker 4 (43:45):
Cameron Monaghan or something like that.

Speaker 3 (43:47):
He played a pretty good Joker.

Speaker 4 (43:49):
He did, but he wasn't the Joker technically.
But that was a good show.
I enjoyed that show.
I actually enjoyed the Batmanbecause I thought Robert
Pattinson was Batman.
It was amazing.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
I fell asleep in about nine minutes.
They filmed it too damn dark.
Robert Pattinson is a weenie.
I like that.

Speaker 5 (44:07):
It's cool and sexy.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
It's more of a comic book detective movie.
It is there you go.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
So yeah, I actually thought his Batman was really
good, when he punched someonewas there a thing going pow wham
bam.
But you can tell he was moreLike Adam West.

Speaker 4 (44:19):
He was more of like a younger detective Batman who's
still trying to figure it out.
I enjoy it.

Speaker 3 (44:26):
That was okay.
He wasn't my favorite Batman,but he was pretty good.

Speaker 4 (44:31):
My favorite's always going to be the Christopher
Nolan trilogy.

Speaker 5 (44:36):
Christian Bale's Batman.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
Oh, I love that one who talks like this.

Speaker 5 (44:39):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (44:42):
I just watched a reel about how, when he was wearing
the suit, he always had aheadache wearing the suit.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
I imagine You're wearing a latex suit and you're
going.
I bet it is hot.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
Who was the villain in the first one?
Liam Nielsen.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
Yeah, he was Raza.
Yeah, that was so good.
Oh yeah, yeah, I wish theywould have.
Cillian Murphy was Scarecrow.
Oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
I wish they would have done more with that.
The Scarecrow.

Speaker 4 (45:09):
I think they played him perfect.
Of course, joker.
I think he would have been backin the third one if Heath
wouldn't have died.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
Oh, yeah, you think so.
Oh yeah, because who'd they putin the third?

Speaker 4 (45:19):
It was Bane.

Speaker 3 (45:21):
Well, I actually like that Bane character though they
said he had to wear like sixinch platform shoes because he's
shorter yeah he's not, he'slike 5'3 or 5'4.
He's a short guy, so it's hardto be Bane who's 6'3 and big
monster looking guy he was veryunderrated.

Speaker 4 (45:40):
When you hear Bane you're just like that's kind of
more of an underrated kind oflower class Talk kind when you
hear Bane you're just likethat's kind of more of an
underrated lower class.
I like the way he talked Talkedkind of that old.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
I definitely didn't expect him.
For the third one I'm trying tothink of who else.
I guess I was thinking more ofPenguin or Mr Freeze, kind of
like back in the old school Now.

Speaker 4 (46:03):
Ben Affleck, it's like a toss-up.
So some of the Zack Snyder likethe original Justice League I
didn't really like, but thedirector's cut that was four
hours long was actually prettygood.

Speaker 1 (46:14):
I've never even seen his movie.

Speaker 3 (46:16):
Yeah, he's not bad.
What are you going to give me?

Speaker 5 (46:19):
Wrong, wrong.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
I like Ben Affleckck but, what you said do or don't
like.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
I do like you like him you like him as an actor or
you just like him as batman?

Speaker 4 (46:32):
have you seen where michael keaton came back as
batman and like the littlewhatever.

Speaker 3 (46:35):
I haven't seen that he uh, michael keaton is just a
good actor anyway he played thevulture and the spider-man
series too too, and he was goodin that.
So I mean, he's got thatversatility.

Speaker 4 (46:45):
Yeah, George.

Speaker 5 (46:45):
Clooney still is Batman.

Speaker 3 (46:47):
Yeah, val Kilmer, I like Val Kilmer.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
I was a big Val Kilmer fan.
That was right after Tombstone.
He was at his peak.
So I mean he could have put ona butt plug and everybody would
have been like, oh, he's a man.

Speaker 3 (47:00):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (47:04):
Somebody would go because in Tombstone he was the
best part of that movie.
That's still one of my favoritemovies, if it's on.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
I'm watching it.

Speaker 3 (47:07):
I like obscure actors too.
So Michael Biehn, who playedhis Huckleberry, I can't think
of what his character was oh,johnny Ringo, johnny Ringo,
that's it, so I like him becausehe was in the Terminator, he
was in Aliens.
He was in Star Wars, billy BobThornton, when he was first
really getting started out.
He was in Star Wars.
What did he do in?

(47:28):
Yeah, he was in an episode ofthe Mandalorian.

Speaker 1 (47:30):
Oh, okay, okay, I got you, okay, I got you.

Speaker 3 (47:34):
I was glad to see him back too, because I know that
he, from what I read he tookkind of a hiatus from acting for
a while and, um, you know he,but think about he played some
big roles.
He played in the terminator, hewas in aliens, which in my
opinion is the best sci-fi movieever made, um, you know, and
then he had he just had a coupleother bit parts here and there,
but his role was alwayscritical to the film and he was

(47:54):
just really good.
I always enjoyed his stuff.

Speaker 4 (47:56):
So do you, uh, you think disney's running batman,
or not batman, uh, star wars.

Speaker 3 (48:01):
That could be a whole episode by itself.

Speaker 1 (48:03):
I'm I'm a little frustrated with the new season,
or whatever it is.

Speaker 4 (48:10):
I haven't watched all of ahsoka.
I think I've got two throughtwo episodes.
I can't.
Well, I don't know why.
It's okay, I didn't mind thatone.

Speaker 3 (48:16):
Um, I did enjoy obi-wan I did, yes, I did, I did
like that one too but I haven'tseen any of the new mandalorian
.

Speaker 4 (48:23):
I just can't get back into it.

Speaker 1 (48:24):
I don't know why the what is the echo?

Speaker 3 (48:29):
the writing was rough .
The best part about that wasthe korean actor that learned to
speak english just for thisrole wow, he did not speak
english prior to getting thisrole and I thought that was
pretty cool.

Speaker 4 (48:38):
Do you think they're going to rest of it was awful 18
percent.
Do you think they're going tocome out with another?

Speaker 1 (48:43):
trilogy or Rotten.

Speaker 4 (48:43):
Tomatoes.

Speaker 3 (48:44):
That's what they say.
They say there's another one inthe pipe, but Star Wars is
secretive by nature, and so youjust never know what they're
going to come out with.

Speaker 4 (48:50):
I would like to see a prequel to Darth Sidious.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
That's what I would like to see Start with the books
.

Speaker 3 (48:59):
Well, so there's a book Called Death Troopers and
it is a star wars book.
That's not part of part of theirdisney, okay, yeah but it is
about a star destroyer, that, um, they get infected with a
zombie virus and so they have.
Oh, but it sounds corny.
But the book was awesome andI've actually interviewed the

(49:19):
author for another another thingthat I was doing and I've
talked to him about that and hesaid I do not know why that book
won't die.
He said I get more.
He said I've written 100 books,but that's the only one that
people know that I wrote becausethey loved it so much and I was
like well, hey, don't look thatgift horse in the mouth.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
Which one is it?

Speaker 3 (49:36):
It's called Death Troopers.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
Oh yeah, and it's got like the is a helmet.

Speaker 5 (49:40):
Yes, yes, I know.

Speaker 1 (49:42):
We're nerding now man , we're nerding this shit out.

Speaker 3 (49:45):
I own the book and it's good, I know exactly
because I wanted to read thisone.
If they made that a movie.
I would watch it this is theone I'm talking about with

Speaker 4 (49:53):
the hook in his eye.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
Yes, oh yeah, that's classic.
I would not watch that.

Speaker 3 (49:59):
Dude that into a movie.
It'd be worth watching.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
I wouldn't invite you anyway, no man so why don't use
the thing?

Speaker 2 (50:08):
Eat a vine of sausages.

Speaker 4 (50:12):
Eat a vine of sausages.
I'd like to see a prequel ofDarth Plagueis and all that.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
Exactly, darth Raven.
I don't think you can goforward anymore.

Speaker 4 (50:22):
I get it, you were trying to get the younger
audience, but I think that's.

Speaker 1 (50:25):
I don't think you can go forward anymore.

Speaker 4 (50:25):
I get it.
You were trying to get theyounger audience, I think that's
.
I don't know when you go.

Speaker 1 (50:29):
You can change.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
Hang on.

Speaker 1 (50:32):
You can change when you're going into the future of
it.
It's crazy, but leading up toit is awesome.
Like you said, the prequel,prequel.
In the beginning.
There's this huge timeline,jason, a lot of dorks.

Speaker 2 (50:46):
A lot of dorks.
It's a bunch of guys notgetting laid.

Speaker 1 (50:49):
No, it's not.

Speaker 4 (50:51):
No, it's not I would love to see a child version of
like um.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
The Dark Raven was my favorite.

Speaker 5 (51:00):
He was my favorite.

Speaker 1 (51:02):
And then Darth Bane the trilogy.
Yeah, like Slytherin 2.
Yes, like Mace favorite, he wasmy favorite.
And then Darth Bane the Triller.
Jesus, I mean, it's yes.

Speaker 4 (51:08):
Like showing how he awarded his purple saber.
Because he won a, because he'sone of the few that had one,
because he won a.
What?
Was it Not a contest, but likea.

Speaker 2 (51:24):
Tournament.

Speaker 4 (51:25):
Yeah, something like that it's just randomness.

Speaker 3 (51:28):
You want to?

Speaker 2 (51:29):
you could write star wars.
Yeah, he won a pokemontournament which made him the
lord of all the other dorksexactly.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
Come on, man, what do you see?
This is the timeline bobo.

Speaker 6 (51:41):
Oh yeah, you can get lost in this you said okay, so
this is where the new hope bobowhy you got to be like that man,
the, the three original starwars that came out, which I.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
What they say is what book three actually book?
Four, five, seven, six yeah, Ihave literally what was one of
my mom's favorite movies andI've sat down and watched which,
each one of them, several timesand I just can't get down with
it.

Speaker 4 (52:08):
You're an over the rings guy, aren't you?

Speaker 2 (52:09):
No, I watched it once .
Well, this is 19 hours.
I'll never get back.

Speaker 1 (52:13):
What the hell trilogy , do you like?
Then Everybody's got to havetheir trilogy John Wick.
That was good.

Speaker 3 (52:21):
I'll take that one man.
Just don't say Twilight, don'tsay Twilight.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
Oh no that pissed me off so much.
I was overseas and I sawTwilight.

Speaker 5 (52:31):
And I saw this and I was like Wait a minute, it's
about vampires.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
Right on In every vampire movie I've ever seen
there's a bunch of killing andsome naked chicks.
I got that movie.
You know you can go to the Mwr,you can rent movie.
I got it.
I'm fixing to see some killingand naked me man, I'm so happy I
put it on and I'm like I justwatched a bunch of high school
dweebs fight over glitter in thesun, are you?

Speaker 1 (52:59):
kidding me oh my god, vampires.
Oh, I can tell, you did theycancel blade for next year I've
heard.

Speaker 5 (53:14):
No, no, no, no, no, I've heard that they canceled
the actual blade reboot.

Speaker 4 (53:18):
Really I hadn't heard that one yet, so I'm hoping
they do and they bring backsnops.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
great stuff was great .
I loved it, I actually loved it.

Speaker 5 (53:27):
But I mean, the government sucks, I just you
know I hate it for him.
I mean you gotta give him abreak.

Speaker 2 (53:35):
Blade 3 was my sci-fi thriller I like.
Blade 3 was the worst of thethree.

Speaker 4 (53:42):
I liked that one.
It was a good movie.
I enjoyed it Because RonReynolds made it funny.

Speaker 2 (53:46):
He did.

Speaker 3 (53:49):
No, Jessica Biel she was nice.

Speaker 1 (53:52):
What about another sci-fi-ish is the Matrix trilogy
.

Speaker 4 (53:56):
I hate the Matrix.
I never liked the Matrix.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
Oh come on, guys, I liked the first three but the
newest one I liked the first one, but I never liked the second
and third one, the newest one.
I liked the first one, but Inever liked the second and third
one.
I always loved the Ernest Goesto Camp.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
That's a trilogy.

Speaker 3 (54:10):
Ernest Goes to Jail was actually filmed here in
Nashville, really.
Yeah, it was filmed at theTennessee.

Speaker 4 (54:12):
State Prison.
He's from Tennessee.
Yeah, he's from around here.
Jim Varney yeah, you know he'sSlinky Dog, you know he's.

Speaker 2 (54:20):
Old Milk.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
You know what I mean, bernie?
What?
Yeah, you know what I mean,bernie.
You know what I mean, bernie.
He was definitely a goofy.

Speaker 4 (54:29):
Yeah, those Actually we got to watch it sometime soon
, because Ernest saves Halloween.
Yes, that's true, oh yeah, andhe's got a Christmas one.
He saves Christmas Halloween.

Speaker 1 (54:38):
He got a job.
He goes to the army, yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:46):
Yeah, yeah, army, yeah, yeah, yeah, uh, goes to
jail, goes to go?
Yes, oh yeah, the camp yeah, Iremember the camp one.
The camp one was my favorite.

Speaker 3 (54:49):
Yeah, he's cleaning the toys let's look at see,
that's why I really think thathe was.
He was the real jim carrey.
Yeah, jim carrey was funny inhis own right, but I think the
guy who marketed that was JimVarney, without a doubt.
See, look at that face.

Speaker 4 (55:08):
Oh yeah, he also played.
He was the bad guy in ThreeNinjas.
Oh my God, I was a kid whenthat came out.
I was like oh, BeverlyHillbillies.

Speaker 1 (55:20):
This is.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
He was a classically trained actor.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
Oh, this goes to Africa.
I like that one.
I remember that one I haven'tseen.

Speaker 4 (55:28):
that one you haven't seen that one.

Speaker 3 (55:29):
I never saw that one.
Yeah, yeah, there's Ernest andthe Army Ernest Rides.
Again, I do remember that one.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
So it's crazy.

Speaker 4 (55:45):
I saw a reel, the other movies.
Which movie was it?
I'm trying to look it up.
He said, vern, would you everconsider keeping rats in your
bedroom?

Speaker 2 (55:51):
Do you remember that one?
I don't remember that.

Speaker 1 (55:53):
I can't find it.
What about as far as trilogies,comedies, I'm thinking Rush
Hour.

Speaker 3 (56:01):
Yes, you took the word out of my mouth, I think.

Speaker 1 (56:03):
Rush Hour is my favorite, my favorite.
I got three of them.
I don't like the third one thatmuch.
There's one scene in there thatI was just dying laughing.
Uh, can you guess it?
The third one?

Speaker 3 (56:14):
yeah, third one I mean I don't really care when he
threw the guy out.

Speaker 4 (56:20):
The window, then there's the one where they're in
the hospital.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
When they're going and they're trying to find the
guy or whatever in the fightingplace, whatever, and he's like
where is you?
Or whatever.
He's like I'm you.

Speaker 5 (56:34):
I'm me.

Speaker 1 (56:34):
And he's you and he's like I'm about to whip all your
asses.

Speaker 3 (56:39):
Now Chris Tucker and Jackie Chan together.
That was one of the bestcomedic duos ever.
The High Noon movies werepretty good too, Jackie Chan and
Golly, if you hadn't asked me,I could have told you.
Owen Wilson, yeah.

Speaker 4 (56:54):
Or Shanghai Noon.
I'm going to bring out theFriday trilogy just because
they're funny.
I was thinking about them.
But if they would have keptSmokey in the last Friday after
next and next Friday, I think itwould have been better.
But next Friday was great.
The Christmas one Friday afternext was I don't like Cat
Williams and that just kind ofkilled it for me.
What you don't like, cat.

Speaker 1 (57:13):
Williams, I don't.

Speaker 5 (57:15):
He has his moments.
I can take him in small doses.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
His voice is good.

Speaker 4 (57:20):
They were always saying they were going to make
another one to bring Smokey back.

Speaker 3 (57:23):
but those were good, those were really good.
The original.

Speaker 4 (57:26):
You're never going to beat the original.

Speaker 3 (57:28):
No, that's true, with a lot of trilogies?

Speaker 1 (57:31):
No, usually the first one.
I don't know Well with Lord ofthe Rings.
I mean I do like the Fellowship, but then there's other ones in
there.

Speaker 4 (57:39):
There's only one return and it's of the jedi.
I'm just gonna lay that outthere I read all the books.

Speaker 3 (57:45):
I have seen all the movies, but I like the books
what about that?

Speaker 1 (57:48):
what about the hangover?
As far as comedy, the first onewas fantastic.

Speaker 2 (57:51):
The other two went downhill.

Speaker 3 (57:52):
Yeah, I've only seen the first one.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
The first one, you know it's one of the best comedy
movies ever.
It's funny.
The second one had some moments.
The third one I went, we, mywife and I went and watched it
at the the drivein and it was,oh wow, this was Now.

Speaker 3 (58:06):
don't revoke my man card when I say this, but the
Pitch Perfect trilogy wasactually really funny too.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
I have to agree, I like those movies.
I cracked up watching thosePitch Perfect oh it's about the
acapella singers in college.

Speaker 4 (58:17):
And it is hilarious.
Which one's the one that'sabout the pants.
Wait what?

Speaker 1 (58:21):
Is this like something new?

Speaker 3 (58:24):
No, it's been around for a while.
It's got Fat Amy in it, it'sgot Anna Kendrick.

Speaker 4 (58:28):
So funny though, anna Kendrick.
Yeah, you like Very nice.

Speaker 3 (58:35):
She's incredibly talented in general.
She sings, she acts, sheproduces stuff.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
Then you got Rebel Wilson, who decided to lose
weight, so she's not funnyanymore, yeah.

Speaker 3 (58:48):
But those were hilarious.
I enjoyed all three of those.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
They were really good .
If you haven't seen them, yougot to see those they're
actually.
They look.
I, my wife, was watching it thefirst one and uh, and I was
just having to be sitting thereand I found myself watching it
with her.
I kind of enjoy this.

Speaker 3 (59:01):
So the third one was so dumb it was funny, but the
other two were hilarious.

Speaker 4 (59:06):
Have you ever seen Range 15?

Speaker 2 (59:08):
Yes, with Matt Best.

Speaker 4 (59:11):
It's so stupid.
It's funny.

Speaker 5 (59:13):
I hated that movie.

Speaker 4 (59:15):
It's the dumbest movie ever made, but it's funny.

Speaker 2 (59:17):
Kyle Marcus Luttrell.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
What about Austin Powers?
Those are good.

Speaker 4 (59:25):
Goldfinger was probably the best.

Speaker 3 (59:27):
The first one.
I enjoyed that one, but therest of them I didn't like so
much.
Then you get a movie like youtalk about, the dumbest movie
ever made Idiocracy.
Have you ever seen thatHilarious?

Speaker 1 (59:41):
It is hilarious, but at the same time it's freaky.

Speaker 4 (59:44):
It reminds me of something.

Speaker 5 (59:44):
It's kind of scary.
Yeah, it's kind of scary.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
It's a little too close to home.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
Yeah, because one of the weird things about it is the
director or whatever.
If you notice, everybody inthere is wearing orange Crocs.

Speaker 2 (59:58):
That's just so stupid .
You wear Crocs.
I don't like you.

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
Okay, so I have Crocs on right now.
I stand by my word the directorbought.
They could get them so cheapand everything.
Because Crocs was like a newcompany at the time and they
were just like oh yeah, theseshoes are so stupid looking like
no one's going to buy it.
It fits.
You know what I'm?

Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
saying I own two pairs.

Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
So yeah, tyler, how many pairs you own?
None anymore, ah, none anymore,ah, dude, you just you've been.
He's trying to smarten up Boboyour wife has a pair.

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
No, no one in my.
I tell you what my son used tohave a pair of Crocs and.
I roasted the hell out of himevery time he put them on my dad
my dad wears them, I'm like Iroast the hell out of him every
time he puts them on.
It's the hey dudes, hey Dudes,isn't it?
I got hey Dudes, but yeah, no,that movie.
I got a pair of Tennessee.
Hey, dudes, I wore Saturdaynight.

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
I can't say anything about Tennessee, hey Dudes.

Speaker 4 (01:00:50):
Do you remember the names from Idiocracy?
I'm looking it up right now.
I don't remember the namesYou've got.

Speaker 5 (01:00:54):
Frio.

Speaker 4 (01:00:55):
Pendejo Dwayne.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
Oh, yeah, Zondo.

Speaker 4 (01:01:01):
Mountain Dew, herbert Camacho Beef Supreme and
Upgrade.

Speaker 5 (01:01:07):
Like it was a funny movie but it was just so dumb,
like I just remember it's likeyou're the smartest person on
the planet.

Speaker 4 (01:01:14):
But it's scary, though, because you're given
these plants.
What was it called?

Speaker 3 (01:01:18):
Well, they only drink Gatorade.
Yeah, I remember, it wasn'tGatorade, it was called Brando
Brando.

Speaker 4 (01:01:24):
Brando, he was like you're giving it to Ronnie?
Yeah, because it's got whatplants crave, he's like you're
not so smart at all.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
Well, hey, where is their water?
Water, you mean, like from atoilet.
Yeah, it's so weird because,bobo, have you seen the movie?
It's been a long time.
You know basically how, all thesmart people.

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
I know the premise of it.
This guy's getting frozen.

Speaker 3 (01:01:48):
Owen Wilson and I think they made it with about
$1.85 and somebody's credit card.
That was mixed out because itdidn't have a big budget at all.

Speaker 4 (01:01:59):
Josh Lepak said Dumb and Dumber the original.

Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
Dumb and Dumber was great Dumb and.

Speaker 4 (01:02:02):
Dumber 2 was awful.

Speaker 5 (01:02:05):
It was funny, but it was awful.

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
The second one Are you talking about the one Not?

Speaker 4 (01:02:09):
the prequel.
The prequel was kind of funny,the one in high school.

Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
Yeah, I was about to say the one in high school when
he was, I died laughing at onepart, when he's in the, which is
kind of like a relapse to thefirst movie.
But he's in the, which is kindof like a relapse to the first
movie.
But he's trying, he I don'tknow, oh, the chocolate bar, and
he's wiping it on the mirror.

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And then the dad walks in.

Speaker 4 (01:02:36):
Oh my gosh, first shit that was Bob Saget and that
was one of the first a lot ofpeople have never heard Bob
Saget cuss before because thatwent too far after.

Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
If you've ever seen his stand-up comedy.
He's not the full house dad inhis stand-up comedy.

Speaker 4 (01:02:52):
But that Dumb and Dumber.
The prequel was good, but thesecond one where they went
across country was funny but itwas stupid.

Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
It's Dumb and Dumber, so it was stupid.
I loved it about Dumb andDumber.
The best scene in Dumb andDumber is where Lloyd has
massive diarrhea.
I noticed a little side thing.
He's a great actor.
What's his real name?
The blonde-headed or Jim Carrey?

Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
The blonde-headed guy , jim Daniels.
He's a great actor.
He did a movie where theybrought him on Saturday Night
Live.
He was the host, or whatever,and they were interviewing him.

Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
He's playing great actor and he did a movie where
they brought him on SaturdayNight Live.
He was the host or whatever andthey were interviewing how he's
playing himself then From yourrecent movie and they kept
showing that scene of him justhis legs going like this Ah,
like seven or eight clips, andthe best part of it was I
watched it with my dad and everytime they played that scene he

(01:03:41):
got the light.
And every time they played thatscene he got the light.
He couldn't breathe, his eyeswere closed, he had tears
literally just streaming downhis face Because every time they
played, he just got funnier andfunnier.

Speaker 4 (01:03:51):
My favorite part was when he was like once she
knocked on the door she was likeI hope you're not using the
bathroom, the toilet's broken.
And then, like that music, likethat terror music, plays.
He's like I'm shaving.

Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
I've always, like I said, I've always liked the
prequels and I loved how thespecial ed kids they kept them
in that little room like thelittle barn in the maintenance
garage that's what they kept ohbecause so here it is.
So they're trying to.
What is it?

Speaker 4 (01:04:20):
the principal is trying to get a grant he's
trying to take the money to moveto Hawaii with his like.
With the cafeteria, yes, butthey have to have a SPED program
.

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
It's in the maintenance bar they pick.

Speaker 4 (01:04:30):
Harry and Louie to go find these.
They're like look a littlecrippled boy.
It's like a guy with a red wig.
Then there's the one who's aschool mascot.
They're like, look, he's halfhorse.
He's got the horse mascot andthey're like look, he's half
horse.

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
and then there's the one guy who just like streamed
football and run into a wallyeah, I mean, and then the emo
ones, but yeah, I honestly Ididn't see the second, like two
it was funny.

Speaker 4 (01:04:56):
It was stupid funny.
The best part of that movie iswhen uh lloyd was sitting there
on that little town square andhe, he puts the Pop Rocks on his
head and the bird gets up thereand she's like you know that
blows their stomach up right,and that bird explodes.
And then you got what's hisname.
Who was the Marine?
The actor?

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
Oh Lee, rob Riggles, rob Riggles.

Speaker 4 (01:05:18):
He's up there with a sniper rifle and he actually
shot the bird.

Speaker 3 (01:05:22):
But yeah, no, Some of those school movies aren't.
I go back a little bit.
I'm dating myself here, butBack to School with Rodney
Dangerfield.

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
I think was one of the best ones.
That one and School of Rock wasjacked by a lot of hilarious
Rodney the one with RodneyCarrier, I thought.
I saw it several times when Iwas younger.

Speaker 3 (01:05:43):
I that's a long time.
That is one of the best schoolmovies.

Speaker 2 (01:05:45):
I watched it again, probably six or eight years ago,
when I older, I about peedmyself laughing.

Speaker 1 (01:05:51):
What is he talking about?
The one scene, when it's thatother comedian and he's a
history.
Sam Kinison.

Speaker 2 (01:05:58):
The one that yells yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:06:05):
The one that yells God is dead.
My favorite movie of all time.
I remember watching it as achild Moving, moving with
Richard Pryor, where he movesacross country and Randy Quaid's
his neighbor, yes, and then hemoves across country and it's
the twin brother.

Speaker 3 (01:06:19):
I haven't seen that in a long time.
But yes, I know exactly whatyou're talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:06:23):
We've missed that.
We talked about trilogies and Iknow it may not be a direct
trilogy, but they're on the samesphere the National Lampoon
with the.
Griswolds.

Speaker 3 (01:06:35):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
Christmas is a vacation.
European Vacation is one of myfavorite comedies ever.

Speaker 4 (01:06:42):
Christmas was probably my favorite of all time
.
You'll never be.
I'll watch it every day whenit's Christmas time.
Life with Eddie Murphy.

Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
I'm going to pull up this video, hang on.
I was going to share it withthe.
I'm going to put it in thecomment section.
If you want to watch it, hangon.

Speaker 4 (01:06:58):
I can Life with Eddie Murphy and Martin.

Speaker 1 (01:07:02):
Lawrence, is this coming through the headphones or
no?

Speaker 2 (01:07:05):
yeah it's picking up a fuller microphone yeah okay,
hang on get to the good part.

Speaker 3 (01:07:18):
He'll get angry in a second here he was a preacher.

Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
Was he really?
He was a preacher.
Yeah, he grew up in a veryChristian household.
He became a preacher then.

Speaker 6 (01:07:29):
Oh, here you go here, he goes with it if you want to
stop world hunger, stop sendingthem food.
They'll send these peopleanother bite folks.
You want to send them something?
You want to help?
Send them U-Hauls, Send themU-Hauls, some luggage, Send them

(01:07:49):
a guy out there that goes hey,you know, we've been driving out
here every day with your foodfor like the last I don't know
34 years and we were driving outhere a day across the desert
and it occurred to us therewouldn't be world hunger if you
people would live with a bootywe're in a desert, world hunger.
A few people would live with abooty.

Speaker 5 (01:08:07):
You're a bastard.
I don't understand how you livein a fucking desert.

Speaker 3 (01:08:10):
Nothing grows out here, nothing's gonna grow out
here, and he made a whole careerout of just yelling at people
for being stupid.
He was a rock star.

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
I mean his shows were rock star, Him and Andrew Dice.
Clay were the first two realrock star selling out arenas.
Andrew Dice Clay, I think, wasthe first comedian to sell out
Madison Square Garden.
He did a two-shot, he did agarden.

Speaker 4 (01:08:40):
What do you think about the new Bad Boys movie
that came out, the fourth?

Speaker 2 (01:08:42):
one.

Speaker 4 (01:08:43):
It's better than the third one.
It's really good.
That would be real hard to do.
No, the new Bad Boys movie thatcame out.
The fourth one.

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
It's better than the third one.
It's really good that would bereal hard to do.

Speaker 4 (01:08:49):
No, the fourth one's good.
It's on Netflix.
What about Beverly Hills Cop?

Speaker 1 (01:08:56):
I haven't seen the new one.
The new one is really.

Speaker 5 (01:08:58):
I really enjoy the new one.
Way better.

Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
The third one didn't exist.
The new ones.
The whole month of October wewatched scary stuff at the house
.

Speaker 4 (01:09:08):
I bet you watched Halloween Town.
Huh, I bet you watchedHalloween Town.

Speaker 1 (01:09:12):
Oh hell yeah man.
I watched the first one two andthe high school one.
The college one sucks.
Oh yes, we don't go that far.
But what is it?
The Goosebumps on Tubi?
They have all four seasons,Like the 90s.
Yeah, old school ones, you knowwhat?

Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
I'm talking about.
Why do you always look at mewhen you talk about old school
stuff?
Every?

Speaker 1 (01:09:32):
time.

Speaker 4 (01:09:32):
We watch them.
You know what I'm talking about.
We started watching the newGoosebumps but we got like
halfway through the season.

Speaker 1 (01:09:39):
Oh, I can't stand that on Disney.
Yeah, oh God it was awful.

Speaker 4 (01:09:42):
The movie with Jack Black was all right but no, I
didn't know.

Speaker 1 (01:09:48):
I like old school.

Speaker 3 (01:09:49):
I was lucky that my kids were older than that was at
the time, so I didn't have tosuffer through those.
So what you know, in amystery-haunted.

Speaker 1 (01:09:57):
You know horror, you like all that stuff.
What is your favorite type ofscary?

Speaker 3 (01:10:05):
For horror movies, scary movies.
I really like zombie movies.
I'm one of the few thatprobably liked all the seasons
of the Walking Dead, which itdid get a little crazy for a
while.

Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
I like the Walking Dead there's so many new
varieties now, I haven't watched, I quit watching them because
there was a lot of build up andno climax.
That is true.

Speaker 3 (01:10:20):
They drag it out way too long.

Speaker 4 (01:10:22):
That's what it's called Benji I wasn't being
dirty, Don't get me wrong.
Now Negan's a good guy, right.

Speaker 3 (01:10:28):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:10:32):
My wife introduced me to it when they had the Star
Wars characters on there.

Speaker 3 (01:10:35):
Which one was that?

Speaker 1 (01:10:36):
The Star Wars looking , oh the fourth season.

Speaker 2 (01:10:39):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:10:41):
I didn't really get it, it's almost like they were
wearing Stormtrooper armor.
I was like I don't understandwhat this is supposed to be.

Speaker 4 (01:10:48):
Was that the Alexandria Army?

Speaker 3 (01:10:52):
I did enjoy that.
If it's well done, there'sreally bad ones out there too.

Speaker 4 (01:10:58):
What's it called?
You've probably watched it ZNation.
I enjoyed Z.

Speaker 3 (01:11:03):
Nation.
It was corny, but it was goodit was so corny it was funny.
It had DJ Qualls on it.
He's another local.
He's from.

Speaker 1 (01:11:10):
Manchester.
Yeah, well, yeah, becausethat's yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:11:15):
He's a man catcher, baby yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:11:18):
Man catcher.

Speaker 4 (01:11:20):
And Z Nation throws you a loop in the first series
when the main guy, just theytooka page from the Game of
Thrones and killed the maincharacter in season one.
Like three episodes in.

Speaker 1 (01:11:32):
I've never been in Game of Thrones.

Speaker 2 (01:11:35):
Joshua Pace said he was an extra in Walking Dead.

Speaker 3 (01:11:39):
They filmed it in Atlanta and in and around
Atlanta.

Speaker 4 (01:11:44):
I googled the Z Nation.
It says as of March 2024, theasylum who made that is possibly
looking to make a sixth seasonnow, oh, very good, I will watch
that.
But it was really good.

Speaker 3 (01:11:56):
But I also enjoyed the just like traditional horror
movies like the Conjuringmovies.

Speaker 1 (01:12:00):
I really liked those.
Oh, I love those Because theybased supposedly based on the
second one.

Speaker 3 (01:12:04):
yeah, I like the second one, the annabelle ones.
That dolls creep me out.

Speaker 1 (01:12:08):
That is one thing I'm like as far as the kids like t
as far as teaching wise and oneof the things they talk about,
like they play video games andlike the horror things like the
dolls or whatever um hell yeahthat's what I was about to say.

Speaker 5 (01:12:21):
Have y'all seen that movie?

Speaker 3 (01:12:22):
it's the dumbest shit I've ever seen, and I think
they're going to make anotherone.
The game is terrifying, though.

Speaker 1 (01:12:28):
Okay, I'm going to be honest with you.
You put the headphones on and,oh, it was scary as shit.

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
but here, With you doing what you do on your
podcast.
You're getting ghost storiesand I can't tell you anything me
on top of my head other thanmore like the blair witch
project.
Do you watch them with adifferent eye than most people?
Do you believe um?

Speaker 3 (01:12:49):
because you, you, research and a little bit, but
it's really more because, beingthe history nerd that I am, it's
very rare that something let'ssay that the blair witch project
was real.
There would be a lot of historytied to stuff that happened in
that particular area.
That's not just going to pop upout of the blue.
Now there is a local story thatdid kind of pop up out of the

(01:13:09):
blue.
The Flintville Monster startedabout 1976, and then about I
want to say about 2004 was thelast report on it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:22):
So it was just a short story.
Was it like a?

Speaker 3 (01:13:24):
Bigfoot style.
Yeah, it's a cryptid storyShowed up would beat up cars,
cars that were parked on emptyroads in the middle of the night
, Do you?

Speaker 2 (01:13:32):
get into stuff like the Bigfoot more, the cryptic
side of it.

Speaker 3 (01:13:36):
Not the goofy shows.

Speaker 2 (01:13:38):
I'm talking about in your research.
Oh yeah, the.

Speaker 3 (01:13:42):
Beast of Land Between the Lakes was a terrifying
story.
I never heard about that.

Speaker 5 (01:13:45):
Can you?

Speaker 2 (01:13:45):
give us a quick rundown.

Speaker 3 (01:13:48):
Yeah, so it's a cryptid story, either Bigfoot
type or dogman or potentiallywerewolf story.
There's a whole bunch ofstories of campers and people
who have been terrorized by thisbeast and there's more evidence
that it's true than there isthat it's not um, and the
evidence it's.

(01:14:09):
It's circumstantial.

Speaker 1 (01:14:10):
That's what I was, I was, I was listening that one
podcast, um or one, and it wastalking about the dog man in
gallenberg.

Speaker 3 (01:14:18):
Yeah, so yes I haven't done one on that yet,
but there's dog man stories allover.

Speaker 1 (01:14:23):
I didn't even know what a Dogman was.

Speaker 4 (01:14:24):
I didn't even know what a Dogman was have you done
the Gatlinburg Ghost Tours andstuff?

Speaker 3 (01:14:30):
No, the only ghost tour I've ever been on was in
New Orleans.
I've not done one here inTennessee.

Speaker 2 (01:14:34):
I would like to do one in New Orleans, because
that's an old city.

Speaker 3 (01:14:37):
There's a lot of stuff that went on there.
And they're good, they're verygood, they're very good.
What's your thoughts on?
Like the loch ness monster?
Oh, I, I could believe that,yeah being true, absolutely, I
could tell you now.
Do I believe that thatparticular story is true?
I think that people have seensomething in there.

(01:14:59):
I don't know that it's maybe adinosaur that has defied
extinction there could besomething down there.

Speaker 1 (01:15:05):
They're seeing something in there.

Speaker 2 (01:15:06):
Reptiles will live a lot longer than the true mammals
for the most part.

Speaker 5 (01:15:09):
There's something.

Speaker 2 (01:15:11):
There's a turtle that's in one of the zoos
somewhere that's like 230 yearsold.
I mean they've seen the riseand falls of nations and
everything else.
I mean I'm not saying that Ibelieve a lot in this monster,
but they do live a lot longer.
If I was going to believe insomething like it, it would have
to be more of the Bigfoot styleBigfoot.

Speaker 1 (01:15:30):
That's what I was rolling with until you got
finished.
What about Bigfoot Things likethat?

Speaker 3 (01:15:38):
Yeah, he's the world hide-and-seek champion.
Do you see it still?

Speaker 2 (01:15:41):
There's stories of Bigfoot, sasquatch, bigfoot, uh,
all over the world and oh yeah,thousands of years, I mean
native americans had like a god.

Speaker 3 (01:15:51):
That was basically like a bigfoot and every
continent has one.

Speaker 1 (01:15:54):
Yeah, like in the middle asia, it's the yeti.
And then, yeah, you're right,you're right.

Speaker 3 (01:15:59):
So and it's the yaoi in australia.
So every everybody's got thatstory.
And if you think about you knowprior the telephone, for that
matter, which was invented inthe early 1900s those stories
still existed when peopleweren't able to mass communicate
like we are right now.
So you couldn't pull up a thingand go oh, I'm going to start a
legend here that's based on thesame one that they have in
Middle Tennessee.

(01:16:19):
If they had a legend inAustralia in the early 1800s and
there was one in asia in theearly 1800s, then there was one
in america in the early 1800s.
It's very, very improbable thatthose people talk to each other
.
So how did they come up withthe same or similar story or
similar creature?
Yeah, if it didn't exist.

Speaker 2 (01:16:38):
So I mean, I know it by the, the, the legend or the
tale or whatever you want to goby.
It's supposed to be this big,huge creature and everything
else, and so it would be harderfor it to hide and be the hide
and seek champion, but everyyear they find a new species of
this, new species of that theydon't, or they'll find this

(01:17:00):
animal they thought had beenextinct for 140 years.
I would hear that son of abitch is right.
So I mean, I think thatwouldn't, as far as you know
your ghost and legend that'smore of on the legends, cryptic
legend side, I think it's one ofthe more probable you know
legends or one of the crypticthings that could be out there,
because you know a mammal isable to adapt to its environment

(01:17:21):
a lot better than reptiles,where you know reptiles live
longer but they don to adapt toits environment a lot better
than reptiles, where reptileslive longer but they don't adapt
to their environment as well.

Speaker 4 (01:17:29):
Have you ever heard of the Hunter Arms Hotel?
It's in St Cloud, Florida.

Speaker 3 (01:17:35):
I've heard the name.

Speaker 4 (01:17:35):
I don't know much about it.
I actually stayed there.
I didn't have any weirdexperience or anything, but my
wife swears up and down thatthere's a ghost in our room.
It's an old-style hotel.
The Waterboys actually filmedthere with a scene after they
won their first game, when theywere coming down the stairs.
That was filmed there.

(01:17:57):
But I remember getting in ourroom and we had done some
research on it because I waslike we're going on a cruise and
I was like, hey, this place islike $75 for the night, we're
staying here, yeah, so.
But of course they said youknow, there's a ghost named
Vivian.
Where's this at?
It's in St Cloud Florida, stCloud Florida.

(01:18:17):
Okay, it's right over by DisneyWorld.
I just remember like I rememberwaking in here.
I'm like Kayla.

Speaker 2 (01:18:22):
It's us.

Speaker 4 (01:18:22):
I hear a gas Calm down If Vivian was in that room.
She gave me the best sleep ofmy life.

Speaker 2 (01:18:29):
If she was in the room she'd invite her over for a
little menage a trois.
Well, throw a thumb in, baby,let's go.

Speaker 4 (01:18:35):
But yeah, no, I'm sorry, I apologize, but my wife
stayed up that whole night justwhining and there's something in
here like kayla.
This is an old, old building.
But yeah, look it up, it's thehunter arms hotel.
It's really nice, but likethere's the road's cobblestone
around it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:53):
I mean, you said, the house you lived in at one point
you knew it was haunted.
What did you do about it?
Did you just live your life andjust accept it?
Or yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:19:01):
so I guess the and I end my podcast with this phrase,
but you know, the dead may seemscary, but it's the living you
should be wary of.
Um, and I believe that I meanif, if there is a spirit or
something like that, there areevil spirits.
You know, there's people thathave horrible experiences with
poltergeists and stuff like that, um, but by and large it's just

(01:19:22):
a disembodied person trying tofigure out how to get away.
They say that paranormal um, orlet me rephrase that they say
that places that have extremeviolence battlefields, prisons,
you know, stuff like thatnegative energy seems to be
attracted to those placesbecause of all the bad stuff
that happened there.
Um, and, interestingly enough,tomorrow I have a?

(01:19:43):
Um, an interview with a HistoryChannel director that they're
doing a show about Civil Warbattlefields and they would like
to talk to me about the TV show, that type of negativity,
especially Chickamauga, which isthe one I'm going to be
interviewing about, the localbattle.

Speaker 2 (01:20:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:20:00):
Chattanooga, North Georgia.
There's a spirit there thatthey call old green eyes and
that he's not a ghost of asoldier or anything like that.
Supposedly it's a more evilentity that feeds off the
negativity that happened at thebattlefield you were saying that
.

Speaker 2 (01:20:16):
Let me make you make sure I'm reading.
What you're saying is that ifthere's a spirit, say right here
, and there's a negative area,they will more like gravitate to
it, even though they're notpart of that.
They just kind of move there.

Speaker 3 (01:20:29):
Yeah, so basically sites of great suffering okay
again, battlefields, prisons.
You know people suffer inplaces like that.
There's a lot of death, there'sa lot of pain, there's a lot of
regret.
You know all those horriblefeelings.
And there's a belief in theparanormal community that when
you have a place that hasexperienced that much trauma for
lack of a better way of puttingit it attracts a more negative

(01:20:50):
energy, and so this particularghost that they call old green
eyes is supposedly somethingthat feeds off of negative
energy.
It's not a ghost, it's not aghost of a person or anything
like.
Supposedly it's an evil entity,and there's a lot of people who
have seen it or seen evidenceof it Again, right there in
Chattanooga, right south ofLookout Mountain.
So I think that the spiritsthemselves because I am a

(01:21:17):
believer, I don't think mean usany harm for the most part.
There are some pretty badthings that happen out there,
but if you've got a ghost inyour house and it's not damaging
anything or he can watch tvwith me, I don't care yeah,
exactly, I mean it's.
It's just a disembodied persontrying to figure it out.
Um, that's my opinion.
Of course, there's a lot ofother people that may have

(01:21:37):
different opinions on it, butI'm not necessarily afraid of a
ghost in my house now if itstarts throwing coffee mugs at
me or knocking stuff off thewall.
He's going to have to write mea check for the damages when we
exercise him out of the house.

Speaker 4 (01:21:51):
You see a ghost walking through your house and
he just grabs a chicken wing,sits on the couch and you're
like what's?
Up bro, that wouldn't bother me.

Speaker 2 (01:21:56):
I know I like chicken an awful lot.

Speaker 4 (01:21:58):
Just don't come to the shower with me, because I
don't want to scare you.

Speaker 3 (01:22:01):
I have more fear of the living than I do the dead.

Speaker 1 (01:22:05):
True that?
What about?
So there's the Vivian one.

Speaker 3 (01:22:08):
Yeah, that's the Hunter Arms Hotel.

Speaker 4 (01:22:12):
It's a beautiful place in there.
It's real crazy because whenyou get to walk into your room,
you don't know where you'regoing.
There's a hall here, here, here, here here.

Speaker 3 (01:22:19):
I've not been inside it, but the Walking Horse Hotel.
I've heard that one as well,it's creepy.

Speaker 2 (01:22:29):
There's so many rumors, myths and legends that
go around you don't know whichones to look at if I was in your
spot.
Which ones to investigate?
Do you just investigate all ofthem, or do you have ones that
pique your interest a littlemore than the other?

Speaker 3 (01:22:44):
ones.
Like you said earlier, I likethe cryptid stories.
I enjoy that type of stuff whenI was, the only thing I was
really ever afraid of when I wasa kid was werewolves.
I hated werewolf movies.
I hated going to haunted houseswhere they had werewolves.
But now, as an adult, I'mfascinated by that whole concept
, um.
So I really like that stuffbenji walks away as he's looking

(01:23:04):
at skinwalkers so I've watchedsome of that skinwalker ranch
that they have on discoverychannel and that sort of stuff
and they sensationalize it on tv.
But you know, I I'm also abeliever in uh, in aliens.
I believe that we are not alonein the universe, and some of
the stuff that they talk abouton this show they dramatize it
to the point where it's stupid,yeah, but I think if you really

(01:23:27):
boiled it down to the thingsthat they've found, the things
that they've seen, and left outall the Oak Island, oh my gosh,
they're going to find something.
But you're going to have totune in next week to see what it
is no, my granny thinks they'regoing to find it next week.
I've found more money on thebottom of Splash Island than
they've ever found on Oak Island.

Speaker 4 (01:23:43):
My granny.
We were at Gatlinburg one timeand she's like I hope their TV
works because Oak Island comeson tomorrow and I think they're
going to find it.
But Skinwalker, you come.
You're driving on the road.
There's one on the road.
What are you going to?

Speaker 2 (01:23:58):
do.
I don't know what a Skinwalkeris.
What's that thing?

Speaker 3 (01:24:01):
It looks like a dude.
It's kind of the dog man typestory Am I driving my truck.

Speaker 4 (01:24:06):
Am I hammering?

Speaker 2 (01:24:07):
down homie.

Speaker 4 (01:24:09):
Hammering down.
Nines are going out the window,forties on the side.

Speaker 2 (01:24:14):
I've got a full size truck with a V8 in it and we're
hammering down.
If he lives through that, Iguess he can just have the damn
thing.
Are they Skinwalkers?
Are they supposed to be likeVicious or violent or something
like that?
One might have took Ben.
Are they skinwalkers?
Are they supposed to be likevicious survivors?

Speaker 4 (01:24:26):
One might have took Benji.
I don't know really what'sgoing on out back.

Speaker 3 (01:24:29):
One might have took Benji.
He's going to get dressed upand come back out here and scare
us is what he's going to do.

Speaker 4 (01:24:35):
He'll see the nine.

Speaker 2 (01:24:37):
I ain't got a gun on me, but I got a really sharp
knife yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:24:41):
But yeah there's.
These types of stories areinteresting because they're not
the traditional you lost.

Speaker 1 (01:24:49):
The guy back at the pit.
But that's what I was.
I pulled this up because I wasstarting to think about it,
because it's kind of like a fador a trend.
Skinwalkers y'all heard of them.

Speaker 4 (01:25:00):
What we were just talking about.
They kind of like Buffalo Billor Buffalo Bob.

Speaker 2 (01:25:06):
oh man, no, it's like that's good or I guess, uh, uh,
if you answer I didn't hear youare they supposed to be like
evil or mean or whatever you'llsay?

Speaker 3 (01:25:17):
yeah, I think by and large this.
In the skinwalker legends it'smore the um it's more like it's
a native.
When they have somebody that'san outcast or something like
that, they tend to take on theirenvironment, and so there are
several different versions of it, so they're kind of feral A
little bit.

Speaker 4 (01:25:35):
Yeah, so if they was to be in Tallahoma, they're
going to take the form of amethod.

Speaker 3 (01:25:41):
Yeah, they're not evil, necessarily, but they're
wild, they're not tame.

Speaker 1 (01:25:45):
So they could take the form of, say, a dog or
something.

Speaker 4 (01:25:49):
Like whatever that thing's doing right there, he's
getting run over if he's in themiddle of the road.

Speaker 1 (01:25:53):
But, you can tell when it's a skinwalker, because
it's not a natural.
You can tell there's somethingjust a little off, whether it's
the voice, the sound that theymake, or their body structure,
like I told Tyler and them alittle off, whether it's like
the voice, the sound, that theymake, or their body structure.

Speaker 4 (01:26:13):
If it's in the middle of the road, I'm just gonna
hammer down, baby, yeah, hammerdown.
What about?
What about slender man?
Have you ever seen those?
Yeah, yeah, I've seen.

Speaker 1 (01:26:17):
I didn't buy it, I think that's an urban legend,
more than anything.
This made the news right heresomewhere to the girl I said
what's up, it's uh new mexico itsays that's an urban legend
more than anything, this madethe news right here Somewhere.
To the girl I said what's up?

Speaker 3 (01:26:26):
It's New Mexico.
It says, okay, here we go, herewe go.

Speaker 4 (01:26:30):
That's a project from one of the.

Speaker 3 (01:26:39):
Now you know what's astonishing about this, though.
If you look at, how bad thatpicture was.
I mean, we have cameras thatyou can see the flagpole on the
moon, but we can't get a goodpicture of this thing walking
across the road, high-resolutioncamera in their pocket.

Speaker 4 (01:26:53):
Some kids made that to scare somebody, and now
they're laughing at everybody.

Speaker 3 (01:26:59):
This type of story, though, is very similar to what
the folks who believe in it,that beast of the land between
the lakes, is supposedly eithera dogman or a skinwalker.

Speaker 1 (01:27:10):
But most of the skinwalkers are west.

Speaker 4 (01:27:12):
You see that thing right there in red, the rack.
Are you taking them down?
Are you taking the rack withyou?
The horns, it's going in theliving room, baby.

Speaker 2 (01:27:22):
I'm not the whole damn thing.
I'm taking the taxidermy.
It's going, that's right, I'mtaking a roger?

Speaker 4 (01:27:29):
obviously roger, I know you do a little taxidermy.

Speaker 1 (01:27:30):
I need this thing in west virginia I hit him back
here on booger holler what is it?
Fly, fly man.
What is it?
No, oh the moth man, yeah, whatabout?

Speaker 4 (01:27:39):
what is the devil?

Speaker 2 (01:27:40):
that's a new jersey devil thing, yeah it's uh, the
the New Jersey Devils was in theNew Jersey Pines, right?
Yes, the Pine.
Barrens, yeah, you know there'sa dead Russian out there, right
, sopranos reference.
Sorry, the dead Russian theynever found.
Sorry, I didn't watch theSopranos Anyway.

(01:28:01):
Sopranos nerd.
Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:28:03):
You know what?

Speaker 2 (01:28:04):
I'm talking about Star.
Wars.
It's about the mafia.
Homie, you start getting intothe Sopranos.
I will talk all day with youabout the Sopranos.

Speaker 3 (01:28:14):
I've seen a few episodes, but I never Look at
the New Jersey Devils.

Speaker 2 (01:28:19):
Not the team.

Speaker 4 (01:28:21):
It's just the New Jersey Devil, oh man.

Speaker 3 (01:28:25):
That one is very similar to a cryptid story.
It's like a Bigfoot type story.

Speaker 1 (01:28:30):
See, I've never heard of this one before.

Speaker 3 (01:28:31):
The Jersey Devil yeah , it's winged.
So what is this one?

Speaker 1 (01:28:34):
Yeah, it's just a.

Speaker 2 (01:28:35):
The story always heard is the one two, three,
four, five, fifth over one.
Over here they say every showI've watched on it it's more
like that.
It stands upright, got a longtail, but it has the bat wings
and stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (01:28:56):
It looks more like the cartoonish demon that you
would picture, with the wingsand the forked tail and horns
and that kind of stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:29:00):
What do you think of the chicken cobra, chicken cobra
, chicken cobra Ain't that real?
Supposedly it is, but I don'tknow.
That's a hard one, becausethere are animals out there that
like you said we discover newspecies all the time, so there
may only be one or two of themleft, and we just don't ever see
them.

Speaker 1 (01:29:14):
Oh, that Jersey Devil right there.

Speaker 3 (01:29:15):
Yeah, that's pretty creepy.
I would not enjoy seeing thatcrossing the road.

Speaker 4 (01:29:20):
That's a crackhead Running down Grundy Street yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:29:25):
Come on, man London's just closed.

Speaker 4 (01:29:28):
London's just closed.

Speaker 1 (01:29:30):
Come on, Tyler, Damn dude.

Speaker 4 (01:29:33):
London's just closed.

Speaker 5 (01:29:35):
They're trying to get to Daddy Bailey's home, but
they ain't had last call yetExactly.
That's been me a few times.

Speaker 2 (01:29:42):
I'll be honest with you.

Speaker 1 (01:29:44):
Oh wait, wait, oh wait, wait, here's one that was
like uh but you know, if youthink about though, this story
has persisted.

Speaker 3 (01:29:53):
I forget what the origin is, but it predates, you
know.

Speaker 1 (01:29:56):
Yeah, that's what, that's what I was looking on uh,
amazon, amazon mother mother.
What a guru hey, as long as youcan just look up, look back up
to the sources right here.
You know what?

Speaker 4 (01:30:10):
I'm saying You're fine, look up the Chibacobra up
there, benji, see what it.

Speaker 1 (01:30:14):
Oh God.

Speaker 4 (01:30:14):
So there's a good picture the chicken.

Speaker 1 (01:30:16):
Chicken copra.

Speaker 4 (01:30:17):
Yeah, chicken cobbler , chicken cobra.

Speaker 3 (01:30:23):
I want to make an episode just about that.

Speaker 1 (01:30:26):
How do you spell this ?

Speaker 4 (01:30:28):
C-H-U-P-A C, then Google will do the no Super
camera.
Go all the way.
Take that whole thing.
There's no chicken in it.
They were going to give you achicken casserole recipe.

Speaker 2 (01:30:40):
Save that.
I thought it was a hauntedchicken.
It might be good.

Speaker 1 (01:30:46):
C-H-U.

Speaker 4 (01:30:46):
Google does the rest.

Speaker 1 (01:30:48):
See, because they're listening to us.
They know Seriously.

Speaker 2 (01:30:52):
I watched a show on the Chupacabra Two weeks ago and
they had some guy going outthere Investigating it.
It was in the southwest, it'susually the Arizona New Mexico.

Speaker 4 (01:31:04):
I think it's real, but I think it's usually the
Arizona New Mexico, so I thinkit's real, but I think it's more
like feral dogs, like hairlessit could be because you get a
picture like this here.

Speaker 3 (01:31:11):
That's a poor dog with mange, but they call it the
chupacabra.

Speaker 2 (01:31:16):
But that poor dog right there died of mange.
The one that was more in thesouthwest and they actually
investigated one, I want to say,in West Virginia as well and
said that the bite marks didn'tline up with, you know, like any
known dog species or subspecies.

Speaker 1 (01:31:28):
Now I could go for like something kind of like if
you could see that this is adirty ass coyote.

Speaker 2 (01:31:34):
That's the dirtiest, like you said, it's got the
mange could very well be, yeah,the coyotes are gross as they
are, that's me.
That's Grundy Street rightthere, that's me on a Thursday
night when I've had too much.

Speaker 4 (01:31:52):
Have you ever seen the interview?
That lady claimed Bigfoot comesto her house every night and
they're friends.

Speaker 3 (01:31:59):
Yes, I've seen that, but she'll never take a picture.

Speaker 2 (01:32:02):
Let's think about Bigfoot.
It's a big old bear.
With Bigfoot You've had youknow everybody, we've had
cameras out and everything elsethere's, and the one that gets
me is, every five to ten years,some guy Some place, or his

(01:32:24):
buddy.
They claim they've killed one,they've got it locked in the
freezer, got this and they'regoing to release it to the world
for a million dollars, and thenand then it turns out to be
nothing.
I think that al capone's vaultyeah, it's one of the things
that you know it makes the, thepeople thinking that the
legitimacy of it is thecredibility, whatever goes down.

(01:32:45):
Every time somebody does thatbecause, yes, if something like
that does exist and that youknow.
And then you have these peopleconstantly saying oh, I've got,
I've killed one, I've capturedone, and then there's
credibility.
Every time you just seem like akook, if you even want, even if
you say man, I'd like tobelieve I don't know if I do or
not, but I'd like to believethat there's something that you
see like a kook.

Speaker 3 (01:33:05):
You'll get these rashes of it that'll pop up too.

Speaker 4 (01:33:08):
One person will say they saw it Now suddenly ten
people come forward and say oh,I had an experience with it too.
If I ever kill one or captureone, I'll call it off Y'all.
Come see them first.
It's probably going to be acrackhead in a suit, but I've
Grundy Street.

Speaker 1 (01:33:21):
Yeah, well there's.

Speaker 3 (01:33:23):
There's one out there called too like the Beast of
Bray Road, that you get a bunchof sightings and you don't hear
anything about it for a whileand then you get a bunch of
sightings and you know it'salmost like it's just cycles
through the legend but I mean itcouldn't help that that show
was on the learning channel, theTLC or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:33:40):
whatever it was.
There's the Bigfoot hunters.
They're all Bigfoot callers butthey never had any evidence.
They called a Bigfoot, They'dbe out in the middle of this
area and a Bigfoot never showedup.
Because they had that one guy.
His name was Bobo and I'm likeshut up, you moron.

Speaker 3 (01:33:55):
You know every time I watch that I always wanted to
play something like what happensin Coming to America when he
goes out there.
Good morning.

Speaker 2 (01:34:07):
Shut up.
I want to hear.

Speaker 4 (01:34:08):
Bigfoot yell back shut up.
They always hear knocks andthey hear yells, but they're
never able to get any kind ofevidence on it.

Speaker 2 (01:34:13):
He just wants to be left alone.

Speaker 4 (01:34:13):
Yeah, I didn't understand that he's the world
hide and seek champion.
He lives out in the woods for areason.
He's probably a nice guy.
He just wants to be left alone.
There was this dumbass horrormovie I saw on Amazon Prime
about Bigfoot and how he hadHarry and the Hendersons.
He had like a.

Speaker 1 (01:34:32):
That was actually a good movie John Lithgow does a
great job he had like a son anda wife, and yeah, have you.
Is that what it was?
I don't know, okay.

Speaker 4 (01:34:41):
So, going back to the trilogies, I forgot about this.
Oh God, I don't know.
Going back to the trilogies, Iforgot about this.

Speaker 2 (01:34:46):
Sharknado.
Oh Lord, Terry did her bestyeah.

Speaker 4 (01:34:52):
Anyway, but no, what else folklore is there?

Speaker 3 (01:34:56):
So that Flintville monster and the Tennessee wild
man is kind of the same type ofstory.
But it pops up like I said inpockets.

Speaker 4 (01:35:03):
I can tell you what the Tennessee Wildman is.
It's a Kraken.
We've got a plan.

Speaker 5 (01:35:09):
You know what?

Speaker 4 (01:35:12):
I'll tell you his name here in a second.
I just forgot it.

Speaker 1 (01:35:15):
We don't name names.

Speaker 4 (01:35:18):
I'll name it after the show, because Lyle will know
exactly who I'm talking aboutand he'll say you know what that
makes sense.

Speaker 2 (01:35:24):
One guy exactly who I'm talking about and he'll say
you know what that makes one guyasking uh, the legend of honey
island swamp monster, you'veheard of that I have not.

Speaker 3 (01:35:30):
I've not heard of that one.
Is that here in tennessee Ihave?

Speaker 2 (01:35:33):
not joshua.
Is that in tennessee?
Where's that?

Speaker 4 (01:35:35):
at you got the, you got that google the honey island
swamp monster.

Speaker 3 (01:35:41):
Sounds like a cryptid story, though, because down in
the everglades, where I'm fromin florida, um, they have one
called the skunk ape yeah, it'sbasically the same concept.
It's a swamp bigfoot thatstinks real bad.

Speaker 1 (01:35:50):
So you're not as a cajun sasquatch oh, look at that
.

Speaker 2 (01:35:56):
Okay, he's always cooking some uh boudin and shit.
It's just some wild, it's thebest crawfish you ever.
It's just some wild hairy coonass running around the swamp
doing something.

Speaker 4 (01:36:08):
They actually made a TV show about that.
It was called Swamp People.

Speaker 1 (01:36:14):
Also a name.

Speaker 5 (01:36:15):
He's also called the Louisiana Wookie oh man, what
was the one that used to?
I like that picture man, thisis very.

Speaker 2 (01:36:24):
yeah, I hope, if there the one that used to.

Speaker 1 (01:36:25):
I like that picture.
I love this picture man.

Speaker 3 (01:36:26):
This is very yeah.
I hope, if there is one, thatthat's what he looks like that
would be awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:36:31):
What was the one at Camp Willow that always told us
we had to walk the girls up thehill from getting attacked?

Speaker 1 (01:36:36):
The pink-eyed monkey lady Pink-eyed.

Speaker 2 (01:36:40):
It's a straight-up, made-up thing.
And they said boys, you betterask these girls if you can walk
them up there, because the girlscabins are on top, because the
pink eyed monkey lady will getyou and it was a straight up and
of course, the older kidsstarted catching up, dude, they
just made this.

Speaker 1 (01:36:53):
Yeah, it was straight up, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:36:58):
They straight up.

Speaker 1 (01:36:59):
Larry Moorhead straight up made this shit up
Straight up.

Speaker 3 (01:37:02):
made this shit up Straight up.
Made this shit up.
See, we had one in Floridacalled the Palmetto man.
Same concept, because we hadpalmetto bushes.

Speaker 4 (01:37:09):
How many women have gotten pink eyes by helping
monkeys?

Speaker 5 (01:37:12):
Exactly what that?
Thing?

Speaker 4 (01:37:12):
just said.

Speaker 2 (01:37:16):
They let a monkey fart on their pillow and it's
over with.

Speaker 3 (01:37:20):
You know, what I'm going to love is a hundred years
from now.
When somebody listens to thisshow, they're going to go.
Is this what they really talked?

Speaker 2 (01:37:24):
about.
They talked about ghost toursand their favorite movies, star
Wars, they kept calling otherpeople doors, and then they talk
about farting on poop.
What the hell is wrong with?

Speaker 3 (01:37:34):
these guys.
Well, hey, if we can send agolden record out of the solar
system that's got Chuck Berry onit, then this show will
probably survive into eternity.

Speaker 4 (01:37:45):
But Chuck Berry will probably survive into eternity.
It would suck very easy.
It's awesome, until Meta shutsus down.

Speaker 3 (01:37:47):
Until you turn on the Coors.
Light neon, and then we're outof here.

Speaker 1 (01:37:51):
The Voyagers have almost run the course.

Speaker 2 (01:37:54):
The what the Voyagers what the hell is that the
satellites that are out there indeep space Somebody who follows
the stuff, researches andstudies it in a place I've
always wanted to go.
Just because I'm kind of ahistory guy myself, I've always
wanted to go to the coliseum inrome and, if you know, if you.

(01:38:14):
If you can't get a feeling orwhatever, something like a
tingle on the back of your neckfrom a spirit, that's because
there was a lot of bad stuffhappening there.
I mean there were peopleliterally fed to animals and
everything else and justslaughtered.

Speaker 4 (01:38:32):
What about the catacombs of Paris?

Speaker 3 (01:38:34):
I would love to go there.
So again, I'm not afraid ofmuch, but small spaces like that
.
There's a movie that was filmedthere, called as Above so Below
, and I couldn't watch the restof that movie and it had nothing
to do with the scary parts init.
It was because of all of thecave collapses and stuff, and it
was filmed in you give meanxiety.

Speaker 4 (01:38:52):
Oh my gosh, have you ever seen pictures of the
catacombs?
It's bad.
I mean, there's boneseverywhere.
What is it they say?
There's like over 10 millionbodies buried down in there,
just all victims of the BlackPlague.

Speaker 2 (01:39:04):
I know you said you try to stay local as much as you
can, but have you ever gone toNew Orleans?
Did you ever go to the aboveground cemeteries and get any
kind of weird?

Speaker 3 (01:39:13):
In New Orleans.
Yes, oh yeah.
So when my sister lived there,I did the tour.
I think it's King Charles I andKing Charles II are the two big
cemeteries there, becausethat's where, like nicholas cage
, has the pyramid crypt and allthat stuff.
Um, I didn't really, and the daywe went it was kind of an
overcast, cloudy, rainy.
It looked like the start of areally bad horror movie the way

(01:39:33):
the weather was.
But I really didn't, justbecause I thought it was cool
that you know you look atnicholas cage's pyramid modern
build, has some sort of latinwritten on the front.
But then you go to anothercrypt that's got like 200 people
buried in it because theycremate and then they put you in
a box and put you in the samecrypt with everybody else.
Um, that was built in like 1800and I think about how many

(01:39:54):
hurricanes that survived andfloods and all the crazy crap
that happens in new orleans, andso you've got all of this
history in this one square blockwith literally a bunch of dead
people.
That's fascinating to me.
That doesn't scare me at all.
That makes me want to go.
I like seeing that.

Speaker 4 (01:40:12):
Did you ever hear about the Rougarou when you were
down there in New Orleans?

Speaker 1 (01:40:15):
No, isn't it real big .

Speaker 4 (01:40:20):
I think it's real popular down there in.

Speaker 2 (01:40:22):
Louisiana.
They're probably trying to saysomething else, but nobody can
understand what they're sayingdown there.

Speaker 5 (01:40:27):
Yeah, we're going without it.

Speaker 2 (01:40:28):
They're probably saying I want some arugula and
they just screwed it up.

Speaker 4 (01:40:32):
Now somebody dresses as a.

Speaker 1 (01:40:35):
What the hell is that shit?
As Benji's.

Speaker 2 (01:40:39):
There's a lot of boogers going on down there.

Speaker 4 (01:40:41):
That's Benji before he cut his hair and shaved his
beard.

Speaker 1 (01:40:49):
I want to grow the hair back, man does that thing,
wear in a bra.

Speaker 3 (01:40:50):
That's a man's ears you've ever seen those pictures
of the old 1800s easter bunnieswhere the rabbit head looks?

Speaker 2 (01:40:56):
real kids are terrified.
That's what that looks like.
Yeah, it was a man's ear.
He really really.

Speaker 1 (01:41:03):
Yes, that picture out there.

Speaker 3 (01:41:06):
Oh my God, now that would scare, me.

Speaker 1 (01:41:08):
That would scare the shit out of me.

Speaker 2 (01:41:09):
That's awful.
Look at those kids' faces.
Damn Donnie Darko coming alive.

Speaker 3 (01:41:16):
Easter does not have the same meaning for those kids
that we have now.

Speaker 1 (01:41:19):
So now we need to get another bit of Donnie going.
Look at this shit.

Speaker 3 (01:41:25):
That one just looks perverted.
It looks like that that's a badthing.
It looks like a toucher.

Speaker 4 (01:41:28):
That one looks terrible.
We need to get another bit withDonnie going so we can get him
in a haunted house.

Speaker 2 (01:41:32):
I bet that don't happen.
You don't think he'll show up?
No, you might.

Speaker 3 (01:41:39):
You might.

Speaker 2 (01:41:40):
I don't know.
I would like to go and exploresome of this stuff.
I've worked with people andeverything else.
I believe that if theseentities are real and I'm not
trying to insult a whole lot ofpeople- no, that's fine.
I think people are moresusceptible.
Some people are moresusceptible to it than other

(01:42:00):
people.
I agree, whatever spirits.
I know a guy.
He claims that in the house helives in there's an old man that
lives in there and you cansmell chocolate and coffee and
pipe.
He's supposed to be a friendlyold man and everything else.
I have no reason to not believeit.

(01:42:22):
I used to live with him for sixmonths and I never saw, heard
or smelt anything.
But when he's telling you youcan tell there's sincerity in
his voice and his tone and hisbody language.
But I've never experiencedanything other than the little
girl I was telling you about.

(01:42:43):
I think I said I was being adickhead about it.

Speaker 3 (01:42:46):
Well, no, I do think that there are people who are a
little bit more in tune tothings like that, that go on
around them.
Then there are some people thataren't.
I don't think that'snecessarily good or bad, it's
just.
You know, it's how you're wired, I suppose.

Speaker 4 (01:42:57):
I've never been, but I've always heard if you go to
Gettysburg you can still smellthe gun smoke in the morning.

Speaker 3 (01:43:03):
Well, the smell is one, as a.
One of the experiences I didn'ttell you about is the house I
lived in florida as an adult wasmy great-grandmother's house
that I grew up in, so we boughtit back as adults.
She had already passed away,but there was two things that
she had constantly.

Speaker 2 (01:43:16):
One was sea breeze, which is like an astringent that
you get in walgreens likecleaning makeup yeah, I remember
my mom used to put that on myface all the time, so it has a
very distinct smell and when yousmell it, it you know exactly
what it is.

Speaker 3 (01:43:28):
And then she also had these huge gardenia bushes that
grew in the backyard andgardenias are very fragrant
flowers and they're kind of hardto grow just because they're a
little bit susceptible todisease and stuff like that.
But in her backyard that's allyou could smell.
And so I remember as an adultthere were times that I would
walk down the hallway in thathouse and I would smell sea
breeze or catch a whiff ofgardenias, and there hadn't been
a gardenia bush there in 20years.

(01:43:49):
So I I really do believe thatif he is smelling those things,
he's probably catching on tosomething else there that
identified with those smells,because I know my great
grandmother's smell you know, Iknow that sounds terrible, but I
did and you know sea breeze.
That instantly makes me thinkof her.

Speaker 2 (01:44:08):
The thing that tends me to believe about this friend
of mine who talked about the oldman he wound up actually
selling the house to his parentshis mom was talking about one
day, about how there's an oldman and everything else, and
that kind of piqued me overthere, his wife, his wife kind

(01:44:30):
of what the hell?
Because she was like me, thatshe never nothing, ever was
noticed anything.
And he never told his mom thatbecause he would tell certain
people his wife and me, otherpeople.
He never told his mom that andthat she's smelling the same
things here in the foot, light,footsteps and the same pipe,

(01:44:52):
tobacco, everything else and andI and I've been in the house
with it and he I don't want tokeep her, the guys he called the
guy's name and he's like oh so,and so's here, like who are you
talking about?
and it's the old man and theyyou don't smell the pipe tobacco
.
Nope, you don't smell a damnthing.
I, I'm like nope, you don'tsmell a damn thing.

Speaker 4 (01:45:08):
I believe it there are some people that can pick up
on that stuff.
My great-grandpa died when I wasprobably 16.
It was probably 2005, 2006.
I remember I used to go spendthe night with her on the
weekend, just because she livedup in Winchester, and I'd hang
out in the square with myfriends and then go there.
But I remember being up 2, 3o'clock in the morning watching
TV.
On a Saturday night she wouldbe in her bedroom and you could

(01:45:29):
hear her talking.
She would start saying Thomas,which was her husband, that died
five years ago.
It's like she would have aconversation with somebody.
It would be like an actualconversation.
She would say I did this.
I always wondered.

Speaker 3 (01:45:44):
My wife was a hospice nurse for 20-something years
bedside.
She's been around people dyingher entire life not their entire
life but she's told me someexperiences that she had that
there's no other explanation forit.
You know she's physically seen,you know, a spirit rise from a
body.
She's seen, you know, a patientthat she had that was

(01:46:07):
apparently in life, not a verygood person at all and she said
that there was the whole roomjust felt evil when he died.
Um, you know, of course that'sHIPAA laws and so, so you can't
say names or where it happened,but she's told me some crazy
stories about things that havehappened around here when she's
been at somebody's deathbed andhas said some experiences that
there is no explanation for.

(01:46:28):
So very, very creepy, verystrange.
But you know, in some cases itwas a good experience too.
You know, if you've had somebodywho, like you just said, my
father-in-law, when he passedaway her dad, he worked out at
AEDC and when he was on hisdeathbed I happened to be there
because we took care of him inour house.
He was on the phone constantly.

(01:46:49):
Now he was just holding hishand up to his ear and he had no
recollection of anything thatwas going on, but he was having
conversations with the basecommander, with his old
supervisor.
He was seeing relatives, youknow, as he was passing.
So I really do believe thatthere are.
You know.
Whether it's just old memoriesthat are resurfacing when you're
at that phase and you're aboutto pass.

(01:47:09):
There's no telling what it is,but personally I think he's
seeing people that have gone.

Speaker 2 (01:47:18):
Now I'm a skeptic on it, but somebody told me this
one time and I wanted to believethis.
So maybe I'm a little moresusceptible to this.
Everybody, when they have theirkids, when they're little
babies, they'll look and they'lljust stare at a spot and you'll
look and they'll stare at itand it won't be a bird or
nothing like that.
And I had somebody tell me onetime that's relatives or

(01:47:39):
somebody coming to visit thechild that the kid can see,
because they're so innocent andthey know they'll never be able
to convey that Only the kid cansee, I guess because
grandparents have passed on andthis, that and the other.
I will admit I kind of want tobelieve that that my

(01:48:01):
grandparents came to see my kids.
Oh yeah, they passed andeverything else, and so maybe
I'm just rambling on about that,but I have, I guess, a soft
spot for that.

Speaker 3 (01:48:12):
No, I think that's, I completely believe that that
could be possible, and it givesyou a good feeling to think that
that's what happened.

Speaker 2 (01:48:18):
Your family can still come and see you know.
Check up on you.

Speaker 4 (01:48:23):
I can see my grandpa going not another Tyler, damn it
, dang it.
See my grandpa going, notanother tyler.
No, like, like you say, likejust you know your wife and
people.
You know the negative energywhen somebody's died, like I.
I don't say I don't know what'snegative, but I've seen the
fear in somebody's eyes whenthey know it's like right when

(01:48:45):
they die, because I, I mean I'veseen there's no telling how
many people die right in frontof me, doing I mean a cop,
whether it be overdose, suicideor whatever, you can see a fear
yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:48:58):
I don't know if they've seen something or what,
but it's Like the last breathkind of deal.

Speaker 4 (01:49:05):
Like it's crazy, it's a weird experience, like we had
one guy who he shot himself andthere was nothing he could do.
But just for those last coupleminutes, just the fear in his
eyes, like his eyes turned Idon't know, like almost you see
them losing their color, liketurning almost white, and then

(01:49:30):
they're just kind of gone Almost, like the life draining out of
them.

Speaker 3 (01:49:33):
Yeah, but you can see the fear.

Speaker 4 (01:49:34):
It's like it's hard to describe their face, but it's
like they've actually, it'slike they've seen something and
then it's yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:49:45):
I mean, I know it's a little off, but I've read
different stories on how truethey are.
I mean, I know it's a littleoff, but I've read different
stories about how true they are,how perfect they are.
Devout atheists talking about,as they're dying, that, oh Lord,
I've made a terrible mistake orI'm burning.
It's so hot here.
Maybe it's just theirsubconscious firing for the last
few times, or it could be.

(01:50:06):
There is, you know, anafterlife and this person was a
bad person and everything elseand he's been a nonbeliever his
whole life and they're now beingpunished.
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:50:18):
Yeah, it's a very weird, like it's very weird.

Speaker 2 (01:50:21):
If you believe in my book.
I didn't mean, I'm sorry, Ididn't mean to cut you off, but
if you believe in spirits, youalmost have to believe in heaven
and hell.
In a way, at least in my book.
You may disagree.
No, I agree with you, becauseif your soul is trapped here, as
you said earlier, being able togo on, it has to go someplace

(01:50:43):
else.
Does it go to purgatory?
Being trapped here, it'spurgatory, right it to heaven,
goes to hell, goes to someplace,because if a spirit can get
trapped, it's got.
That means it's trapped fromgoing to where it's supposed to
go.
Where is that?
Next point?

Speaker 3 (01:51:00):
so right and it that gets into the spirituality of it
and I'm trying to make it likeoh no that's.
I think that's a great, greatsegue into talking about.
You know, I know we're probablyout of time or close to it, but
, um, I think that's a greatsegue into talking about.
I know we're probably out oftime or close to it, but I think
that just boils down to apersonal belief, and I happen to
be a believer in eternal life.

Speaker 1 (01:51:18):
I was going to say you seem like you know a lot
about it.

Speaker 3 (01:51:22):
Well, just from reading.
But I do believe in eternallife and not necessarily in a
religious aspect, but I dobelieve that you go on.
But I do believe in eternallife and not necessarily in a
religious aspect, but I dobelieve that you go on.

Speaker 1 (01:51:38):
I find it hard to believe that you get anywhere
from 60 to 80 years here and allof a sudden, when you're dead,
that that knowledge is gone.
What is the ones that believethe supernatural, ghosts and
everything, but they areatheists.
What is their explanation for,like you know, you guys were,
you were explaining, you'reexplaining, but what is their
explanation for it?

(01:51:58):
You know, I really don't know I, I don't know how.

Speaker 3 (01:52:02):
At some point you have to reconcile.
Yes, this is what I believe,but it doesn't end there.
You can't just believesomething and then that's the
end.
All.
There has to be a continuationof that.
So, taking a case of somebodywho does not believe in an
afterlife, there are folks whobelieve that when you're gone,
you're gone, once the light'sout doors are shut and there is
no more you in any type ofexistence.

(01:52:24):
I don't believe that.
I do believe that there is aneternal life, not necessarily in
a religious aspect, but I dobelieve that you carry on.
I mean not like reincarnation.
You know that gets intobuddhism and some pretty deep
dives over there.
But you know, I don'tnecessarily believe that you
come back.
We might, I mean, who knows?
But uh, I do believe that wecarry on in some capacity.

(01:52:47):
Um, there's too many peoplethat have had near-death
experiences, that have explainedthat they've seen people that
they know and, like you said, itcould just be a memory trigger
because of the trauma ofrealizing you know you are about
to take your last breath.
You know, they say, your lifeflashes before your eyes and
that could just be a symptom ofthat.
But I, just to me, just in mycore, I just find it hard to

(01:53:07):
believe, like I said, you get 80years or so on this earth and
everything that you've done,learned, know, taught and can
continue to teach, maybe evenafter you pass, I just find it
hard to believe that all of thatjust goes away in just a flash.
I think it has to carry on insome capacity and I guess that's

(01:53:29):
what makes me a believer inspirits and ghosts, probably not
to the same extent as somereligious folks may believe in
them, but uh, that's, that'sjust kind of where my belief
system is.
Um, so I just I hope that whenI do get the chance, when my
time comes and I get to pass onwhatever knowledge I have gained
.
I hope that it turns out to besomething good for somebody,
somewhere like, like I said, 100years from now, when they

(01:53:49):
listen to this show, they may go.
That guy was a crackpot.
What is he talking about?
If you?

Speaker 1 (01:53:53):
could be.
You know when it does happenand you do go say you had the
option to be a ghost or not.
Are you coming?

Speaker 2 (01:54:05):
On Grundy.

Speaker 1 (01:54:06):
Street, are you?

Speaker 3 (01:54:07):
coming back, not to Grundy Street.
Are you coming to Grundy Street, are you?
Coming back, not to GrundyStreet.

Speaker 4 (01:54:12):
Not going to the laundromat.

Speaker 3 (01:54:13):
No.
So you know again, it'sprobably a deep spiritual dive,
but I don't think that I wouldif I got the choice.
I don't think that I wouldbecause I do believe that there
is a next step.
I don't believe the death isthe end.
That's just me personally.
But I wouldn't believe thedeath is the end, that's just me
personally.
But I wouldn't want to relivethe step I've already been on.
That's like taking the sameclass over and over again until
you get a grade you like.

(01:54:33):
I'd rather just do that before.
I did too one time.
But yeah, no, I would lookforward to that next opportunity
, whatever it happens to be,even though I don't want to die
a horrible death.
Death does not scare me, I'mnot afraid of it.

Speaker 1 (01:54:52):
I had one, and I had one and I lost it you had a
death no, no, no.
I died once, but I lost thatshit.

Speaker 4 (01:55:02):
I had heard people had like a deja vu or something
where they're like, oh, I knowwhat it was what about those
spirits that linger here?

Speaker 1 (01:55:14):
Do you think it's a choice, or how do they is it?
Have you studied something withthe Tennessee ghost in your
podcast or maybe some localstuff, and is there some kind of
um pattern that you see, maybe,how they get?
Do they get stuck here?
Do they choose, or how do youthink?

(01:55:35):
What do you think it is?

Speaker 3 (01:55:36):
yeah, no, that's a good question and that's hard
because I think everybody whohas a belief system is going to
have a different way ofexplaining it but for me.
I really do think that there issomething to that.
You know traumatic events.
You know, if you have somebodywho experienced a horrible way
of passing away, if they weren'tready, if they didn't have the
right mindset or they didn't getthe opportunity to have their

(01:55:57):
life flashed before their eyes,let's just say they were snuffed
out in.
Whatever happened to them, Idon't think what remains is
prepared to go anywhere.
That's kind of how I view it.
So let's take a battlefield ora prison for something.
If you have somebody who diedin a violent prison fight or
something like that, their bodydoes not, or their spirit, I
guess my theory would be is itdoesn't know where to go because

(01:56:19):
it didn't get the opportunityto prepare.
Um, granted, you would think ifyou're going to prison, every
day could be your last, but orif you go on to a battlefield,
but I just, I just don't believethat.
I just don't believe thatthat's where it stops.
And so maybe you, maybe whatyou said is correct, maybe you
do get the choice.
You can either let go of thepast and move on to the next
step, or you get stuck there,like some of these ghosts that I

(01:56:42):
do some research on.
Maybe you know some of theseguys that are in these prisons,
like brushy Mountain and Leroy,who was smoking the cigarette
through the bars.
He may not know anything else.
Well, at least he didn't have toworry about cancer at that
point no, no, no, he'scancer-free.

Speaker 4 (01:56:56):
He's probably thinking I'll smoke more Riz.
Yeah, give me the non filters.

Speaker 2 (01:57:02):
I can go for the hard stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:57:04):
Give me the good old non-filter ones.

Speaker 2 (01:57:09):
Give, give me the good old non-filter ones.

Speaker 4 (01:57:10):
Give me the good old hog leg.

Speaker 1 (01:57:11):
That's what I really want.

Speaker 2 (01:57:12):
What Hog leg?
What is that?

Speaker 4 (01:57:14):
A big joint, oh A big doobie or a hog lick, a big old
chew.
He killed it too.
Oh yeah, he could be a big chewchew.

Speaker 1 (01:57:22):
Hey, that's some old school.
I like that.

Speaker 3 (01:57:30):
He's probably Leroy's probably that way.
I don't want to think Leroy'sthat way.
Unless he's being healthy, thenit might be big league chew.

Speaker 1 (01:57:34):
They should just let MLB players chew again.

Speaker 3 (01:57:37):
You don't care about it.
I don't want to slide intosecond and third base because
you know that's going to becovered in nasty.

Speaker 1 (01:57:45):
When can people expect we're wrapping it up?
When can we expect people tosee your show?
You said you're coming out withone again.
Were you having to fix it?
Oh yeah.
So, when do people expect tosee a problem?

Speaker 3 (01:58:03):
Well, that rerun will hopefully be done by this
weekend.
I'm going to try to record ittomorrow night and get it
doctored up and be ready toreplace what's out there.
So if you listen to episode 15,please pardon the audio until I
fix it.

Speaker 4 (01:58:15):
15 2.0 is coming out soon.
Yeah, 15 2.0.

Speaker 3 (01:58:18):
There you go, there you go, so my goal now, though,
is now that I'm done with school, I've gotten all my
professional certifications donethat I was going after, so, um,
my goal is to have at least oneepisode a month, if not two.
Um.
The bad thing is, though, isthat tennessee's only so big, so
I will eventually run out ofghost stories, and then we'll
have to expand.

Speaker 4 (01:58:38):
Well, yeah, then I might have to bust the border
some.

Speaker 1 (01:58:41):
That's what I was thinking about, because you can
have so much fan mail and bussprout.
Does that now?
Yes, okay, they do.
They bus sprout our website.
We have a website.

Speaker 2 (01:58:52):
I know, by the way, okay, okay, I've never been on
it do we really, yeah, we have awebsite we have a website, but
where am I man?

Speaker 1 (01:59:04):
but it's got fan mail now you could.

Speaker 2 (01:59:07):
do we give any?
Like the guy that says runextra benji super sexy we get
any of?
Do we get any of the guys thatsays Ron X and Benji are super
sexy?
Do we get any of those?
Do we get any hate mail fromthat?

Speaker 4 (01:59:13):
guy that wants me to kill myself.

Speaker 2 (01:59:17):
Oh, you got haters, oh yeah.
We control the whole Nebraskafan base.

Speaker 5 (01:59:23):
We were getting death threats.
People were getting upset.

Speaker 1 (01:59:28):
We just need to come out every friday or saturday
morning just like f nebraska,every single morning and just
hashtag nebraska football so theguy sent me this thing or
whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:59:38):
And then I kind of trolled him and said, says the
guy with like a third grademustache because it's a terrible
mustache, oh man he got reallyoffended and was like you should
go kill yourself.
I'll pee, pee on your grave,blah, blah, blah, said really
horrible things and then heblocked it where we couldn't
message back, and then heblocked us.
So I'm like all right, coward,oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:59:56):
But here was the thing we had people trolling him
.
We had people trolling him, andthen there was this one more.
I don't think she's a followerof us at all.

Speaker 4 (02:00:05):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:00:05):
She sent us a message with his phone number or
something and his address andeverything.
Yes, A lot of info, and we werejust like hey bitch.
She was looking for a hitman.
Hey look, we want to just talk.
We're just talking shit.

Speaker 4 (02:00:21):
I want to talk trash to him on the phone.

Speaker 3 (02:00:29):
Yeah but we're not doing this.
That's another level rightthere.
We're not in the Sopranos,we're not going to Nebraska.

Speaker 4 (02:00:34):
But I know a guy who's watching Sopranos and I
know a guy who knows how to getrid of somebody in the Jersey
Pines.
Right, I'm on Grundy Street.

Speaker 1 (02:00:42):
I'll take you to Grundy Street In the department
on Grundy Street.

Speaker 4 (02:00:45):
Billy Ray Hunt is going to eat you alive on Grundy
Street.
You know what I'm talking about.
I do.

Speaker 1 (02:00:52):
Billy Ray's going to get you?
I don't even want to know.
I don't want to know.
Yeah, nebraska sucks.
We should just hashtag them.
I forgot that.
I was going to put a meme outfor that, but I was back to what
I was saying about the fan mailand everything.
If you do because you saidthere's only so much you can do
and with the whole gettingpeople stories, you know,

(02:01:14):
because every it seems likeeverybody has either an eerie
story kind of like we have, or Imean tyler and I have like an
eerie kind of feel about likemiss mary bobos okay, eerie, but
you two have actually actuallyweird experience that you could
make into a couple minute storyand you can make a 30 minute
segment based off other people'sstories.

(02:01:36):
If you want to drive about 21hours upstate New York.

Speaker 4 (02:01:39):
I'll go with you out to Remington Pond Bobo let's get
on your golf cart and justdrive around and tell a homo
looking for ghosts.

Speaker 2 (02:01:46):
We'll go to Remington Pond and I'll see if she'll
come back out to me.

Speaker 3 (02:01:50):
She might be like there's my little boy, I'll be
down for that.

Speaker 1 (02:01:53):
I just want to look at this pond.
That's it, Bobo.

Speaker 2 (02:01:56):
Remington Pond.
It's on Fort Drum, I rememberthe Remington Pond sign.
It's not a big pond, it'sbasically like a family picnic
area, Something like that.
They got a parking area we werewalking through.
We were actually more scared ofrunning into a bear.
There's bears in that area.
People leave food out and crap.

(02:02:17):
This is how they've dressed itup.
Quite a bit it was a patiobasically.
There wasn't no crackheadsaround.
I heard something.
Yeah, I don around.
I heard something.
I can't explain it.
Both the guys were to my left.

(02:02:37):
I heard it come from my rightand it was distant.
All three of us heard the sameexact thing.
I'm not a disbeliever.

Speaker 3 (02:02:48):
I know I've had one talk to me right to the back of
my head one time when I workedat AEDC and I'll never forget it
.
It's a voice I'll never forget.

Speaker 4 (02:02:59):
So it's creepy, do what?
What was that at AEDC?

Speaker 3 (02:03:02):
When I was, I used to run the officer's club out
there, the Lakeside Center, andduring the Veterans Day picnic
picnic our flagpole had thatscrew together shaft for the
parade flag.
It fell apart and so the flagfell on the ground.
So of course I picked it up andtried to put it back together,
and right behind my head I get avoice that says thank you,
plain as day.

(02:03:22):
I heard it and I turned aroundto look to see who was behind me
, and I was the only one in theroom.
So I take that for what youwant, but I heard it plain as
day.

Speaker 4 (02:03:31):
We'll leave that there we'll leave it.

Speaker 1 (02:03:33):
Allow russell, everybody allow russell
everybody, and hey at this.
Um, if you go on our facebookpage, I have posted his website
no thank you, you can click, youcan click on it and when you
click on it it gives all theinfo, all the pictures he's got,
your background and everything,and it lists all the you're on,

(02:03:56):
all the podcast apps andeverything.

Speaker 5 (02:03:58):
Yeah, I think there might be one of them.

Speaker 1 (02:04:00):
Yeah, so you go to his website and you can click
from there and then listen,review it.
Don't be a Nebraska bitch.
They did that Did you notnotice?

Speaker 5 (02:04:12):
Boy, did you notice?

Speaker 1 (02:04:13):
one of them give us a bad review on Facebook, and
then they gave us one reviews onour podcast.

Speaker 4 (02:04:19):
Oh, did they Good for you?
Yeah, they rated us.
I'll be stubbed his toe andthen his fist drowns, yeah,
there you go All right,everybody Lyle Russell.

Speaker 1 (02:04:27):
Yeah, thank you go.
All right, everybody LyleRussell.
Yeah, thank you all for havingme Tennessee Ghosts and Legends
podcast Listen and love it.

Speaker 2 (02:04:34):
Oh, you were about to leave.
Roll the roll.
I'm going to pray with you.

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