March 8, 2024 • 34 mins
In this episode, Brian Haney joins as co-host for a Q&A on my latest recommendations for healing resources that I’ve come across. Items discussed include a hodgepodge of books, podcasts, recipes, health-promoting products, and interesting new research results. We chat about centenarians, vocabulary, ‘90’s nostalgia, and mocktails, among other things. There’s a lot of laughing going on in this mostly light-hearted episode, especially while discussing my recent baking fail!
Links to resources mentioned in the episode:
- The Well Lived Life: A 102-Year-Old Doctor’s Six Secrets to Health & Happiness at Every Age https://gladysmcgarey.com/
- Buy Yourself the F***ing Lilies https://www.taraschuster.com/
- The Rich Roll Podcast https://www.richroll.com/all-episodes/
- This American Life https://www.thisamericanlife.org/
- Pod Meets World https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-pod-meets-world-98589488/
- Team Sherzai’s Brain Building Totally Possible Burgers https://www.theneuroplan.com/blog/brain-healthy-recipe-brain-building-totally-possible-burgers/
- Danielle Walker’s Chocolate Strawberry Frozen Yogurt Bites https://www.instagram.com/daniellewalker/reel/C3QxHnayYj4/
- Mocktail Club Mocktails https://www.mocktailclub.com/
- Washington Post Article https://www.washingtonpost.com/wellness/2024/02/29/ultraprocessed-foods-health-risk/
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
Welcome to the Heal and Stay Healed podcast, where
we talk about healing and, moreimportantly, staying healed from
chronic disease and otherailments and issues.
We'll cover all the crazythings about health and life the
good, the bad, the ugly and thehilarious.
My name is Kelly and I'm asurvivor and overcomer of severe
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autoimmune disease, and I can'twait to share with you what
I've learned so that you canheal and stay healed too.
Thanks for listening and enjoythe show.
Welcome back to the Heal andStay Healed with Kelly Bihini
(00:54):
podcast.
Thanks so much for joining ustoday.
Being that a lot of my episodesthus far have had a fairly
serious tone, as is natural dueto the fairly serious topics
that we discuss, I thought itwas time for a more fun and a
little more lighthearted episode.
So today with me I have aformer podcast guest who has,
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for the day, been upgraded toco-host, my real life partner,
brian Heaney.
Welcome, co-host Brian.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Thank you, kelly, for having me on.
I look forward to thistemporary promotion to co-host
and I'm really excited to beable to have a lighthearted and
fun conversation with you, and Ihope your audience gets a lot
out of what we get to talk abouttoday.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Well, we have a looser Q&A style format today.
Brian's going to be asking mesome great questions and there
will be lots of sharing some ofmy favorite things with you,
which will be a randomassortment of things that I've
come across that have all been apart of my healing journey, and
some of them are very recent,so I'm pretty excited for this.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Yeah, I think it's time for us to turn the
microphone around and ask yousome questions for a change,
because you've done such a goodjob interviewing and having some
great episodes with your guests.
Are you ready for that?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
I sure am ready.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
All right, here we go .
We'll start with one that I ampretty interested in.
In naming your podcast, why didyou decide to call it the Heal
and Stay Healed podcast?
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Yeah, that's a good question.
I've been asked this a bunch oftimes and my thought process was
being that I am coming from theperspective of someone with
autoimmune disease who hasbattled and overcome autoimmune
disease, which is, of course, achronic illness.
It's not just about healing,because with a chronic illness,
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chronic means reoccurring.
So with things like autoimmunedisease, you may have a flare
and you may heal from that flare, but healing isn't necessarily
the desired outcome.
It's really the staying healedpart that we want, because it's
one thing to have a flare, healfrom that flare and then, a few
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months down the road, or even acouple of years down the road,
have another flare and just haveit be something that you're
just continuously having tobattle and having to be on the
lookout for.
It's quite another thing to getto a point where you are
staying healed, where you don'thave to constantly be dealing
with flares, you don't have toconstantly be worried about
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dealing with flares and gettingto the point where you can
really believe that you not onlyhave healed but that you are
staying healed.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Well, that's really interesting because I feel like
I've seen that progression inyour life of not just treating
symptoms and hoping for a periodof time that you don't
experience them, to now you'rewalking in health and its body,
mind and spirit and you see it,it embodies every domain and
every dimension of who you areand I think that that's been a
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really interesting thing for meto watch that journey and that
progress towards being healed,staying healed and having it
kind of encompass you.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Yeah, you've had a front row seat for sure.
In thinking of it as okay, whatsets me apart?
A lot of people talk abouthealing, not as many people talk
about staying healed, so that'shence the name of why I thought
, okay, this is what I'm allabout, so let's just go ahead
and put it in the name.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Love it.
It's a great name and it's evenmore fun to watch you live it
out All right, so let's switchgears now.
You are always reading orlistening to something health
related.
There's always something thatyou're consuming.
I'd love to know what you'drecommend to others, that either
something you've read orsomething that you listen to.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Yes, a couple of books that I've recently read
come right to mind, and one ofthem was recommended to me, so I
will pay it forward byrecommending it to the audience.
It is called the Well-LivedLife a 102 year old doctor's six
secrets to health and happinessat every age.
So obviously that's very eyecatching that the author is a
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102 year old doctor.
This was written last year, soshe's actually 103 now and her
name is Gladys McGary.
In reading the book, I was justblown away.
I was like, did she reallywrite this?
And so I looked up a bunch ofvideos and I'm like, yeah, she
totally did, because she issharp as a tack.
She looks at least 20 yearsyounger, and even if she was 20
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years younger she would still beincredibly impressive.
So to know that she is now 103is just mind blowing.
Reading this book, it was justlovely.
It was just filled with suchpositive energy and it felt like
I was like sitting down with asage which she surely is and it
was just an experience of justletting her many, many, many
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years of life experience, thewisdom that she's gained just
kind of wash over me.
So it was really beautifulstuff.
She's all about that mindset.
She's very big on the mind bodyconnection and she keeps coming
back to love as the center ofhealing, particularly with
holistic healing, and sheexplains all of this not in a
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cheesy way but in a reallypractical sense.
That really left me pondering alot of things.
So I definitely recommend thisbook.
It's very just, well-roundedand comprehensive and very
encouraging, and it was light.
Even though she talked aboutsome heavy stuff, it felt very
light and I read it very quickly.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Wow, that sounds really fantastic, when I really
love that concept of love, kindof being an anchor anytime you
can hear from a centenarianthat's clearly doing some
amazing things and willing toshare.
I'm sure that that was a reallyempowering and uplifting read.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Yeah, and I forgot to mention she is known as the
mother of holistic medicine,which is pretty cool too, and I
always look for folks who havelived to be centenarians or just
have lived to a very old age.
Those are the people that Iwant to be hearing from.
I want to hear what they'vedone, how they've lived their
lives.
I want to hear all of thewisdom that they've gained in
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their many decades of life andexperiences, and I want to hear
what sets them apart.
What have they done, maybedifferently, to get them to this
point, especially when they'rejust so incredibly clearly
cognitively healthy?
Like Dr MacGarria's, I'm alsofascinated by the blue zones
that Dan Butner writes about,and there's also a documentary
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out on the blue zones now, too.
And Dan Butner studied thelocations in the world that are
home to the world's oldestpeople, places where you find an
exceptional amount ofcentenarians, and that's
Sardinia, italy, okinawa, japan,nikoia, costa Rica, ikaria,
greece and Loma Linda.
California is the one in the US.
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Butner has studied thelifestyle commonalities among
these people in these areas and,not surprisingly, they include
healthier diets.
They're mostly plant-basedcultures.
Movement is part of their dailylives, lots of walking.
Another standout is theirsocial life Community is
integral to all of these, and Ifind that extra intriguing, as
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that's something that seems tobe declining a bit more these
days, in the non-blue zones forsure.
Another big thing is that theyhave a sense of purpose, even in
their older years.
It's really interesting stuff,and Dr MacGarry essentially
touches on all of the thingsthat Dan Butner found in the
blue zones, and her big thing isthat last one that I mentioned,
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purpose, which she calls yourjuice, which is really, really
cute, and she writes about it ina really fun way.
So anyway, I'm really intriguedby centenarians.
Not that living forever or evento such an old age is
necessarily the goal, but for me, living in a way that not only
keeps me physically healthy butmentally sharp and able to enjoy
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life and to still contributegreatly to the world in those
later years, I think is a reallynice goal.
And with Dr MacGarry she, at103, has a 10-year plan, which I
think is amazing.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
No, that sounds awesome, and I also love the
fountain of youth being purposethat your juice is critical to
living a long and fulfillinglife and staving off all the
things that you see can comeagainst that.
That's wonderful.
And speaking of there's apersonal connection that you had
an aunt that lived to over 100years old.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
My great aunt, my dad's aunt, aunt Kay, lived to
108.
Wow, a great aunt.
By marriage, not by blood, so Idon't have those genes,
unfortunately, aunt Kay just inthinking about.
Ok, how are the ways that Isuspect that she lived so long?
Aunt Kay radiated love.
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She never was able to have kidsof her own but she essentially
adopted countless nieces andnephews and these are ones who
were related to her, and thenher great nieces and nephews,
but also there were just aplethora of neighborhood kids
would run up and visit her andeveryone called her Aunt Kay,
just everyone called her AuntKay.
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So she was an incredible ladywho, just again, like I said,
just radiated love and she gotso much joy from being around
children and just giving so muchto others.
So that is very telltale and agood way to live if you want to
live to 108.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
No, I remember getting the chance to meet her
once before she passed away andI was blown away by, just at her
age, the energy that she stillhad and clearly she yeah,
absolutely radiated love and Waspretty remarkable to be able to
meet her.
Okay, do you have any otherbooks that you want to recommend
that you've read recently thathave been impactful to you?
Speaker 2 (11:24):
yes.
So we're going from sweet tosassy now on the Total opposite
end of the spectrum.
My next recommendation I'mgoing to have to edit the title
because this is a clean podcast,but it's called by yourself the
bleep in lilies and Otherrituals to fix your life, from
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someone who's been there.
So the author is Tara Schuster.
Tara Schuster is a comedywriter and that clearly plays a
major role in this book.
So so obviously that's a veryeye-catching title, but it's
essentially a beginner's guideto self-care.
For those who don't mind Crasshumor, clearly it's got a bunch
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of that.
It is hardly an instructionmanual on self-care, but instead
it is a fun, very light read.
That definitely got me tochuckle a bunch.
That being said, it will getyou thinking about the concept
of taking care of Ourselves more, and it provides a lot of
examples and some greatsuggestions for various forms of
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self-care.
And Tara wrote this I believeshe was still in her 20s and a
single woman.
So it's from that perspectivefor a single woman on the
younger side, and it'll be mostrelatable for ladies who fall
into that category.
But, as someone who is not inthat category, it's certainly
applicable to older, non singlewomen as well, and I personally
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found it very inspirational justto be reminded of little ways
to make time for more self-carethroughout the day and
throughout your week, which issomething that, of course, I
believe is incredibly importantfor healing and staying healed.
So again, fun, not very seriousread, but on a topic that I do
think is very serious and thatwe all need to be taking very
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seriously.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
I do remember you reading this and busting out
laughing several times, and itcertainly made me curious as to
what was so good about it.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Yeah, she's pretty funny.
You know, I like to laugh.
I like funny stuff, and when Ican read about health and laugh
at the same time, that's awin-win.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
So, moving on from books, the other thing that I
watch you and see you do quiteoften is listen to podcasts.
Now, you get a lot out of themand I know you really enjoy them
.
Do you have any podcasts thatyou would like to recommend?
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Oh, yeah, this is not a new recommendation, but I
don't know that I'vespecifically talked about it on
the podcast yet.
The rich role podcast oh man,he is my favorite.
Rich is a vegan and ultraendurance athlete.
He's been in recovery and soberfor decades now.
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He's a father and a husband aswell and he just is an
incredible person.
He has such an intuitive mindand has such an eloquence and a
way with words that just fewothers have.
His vocabulary is likeUnmatched and seriously off the
charts.
Each episode there's at leastone or two vocabulary words that
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I have to look up that he usesbecause I'm like I don't know
what that word means.
And then I look it up and likeyep, he used it perfectly and
naturally.
He is not pretentious in theslightest, he's just a really
gifted human being and he's beendoing his podcast thing since
like the beginning of podcasts,you know, over a decade ago.
He's just such a pro, has themost incredible conversations
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with Extraordinary guests.
I've been introduced to so manypeople through him as they were
guests on his show and I'veread so many transforming books
by the guests on his show andhe's just a really humble, open
and vulnerable guy who getsembarrassed when people talk
about the massive impact hereally has had on them and in
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the world, because that'sclearly not what drives him.
He's been an unofficial mentorand an inspiration for me.
In fact, I really think I cancredit him for being the source
of a Decent chunk of my personalgrowth over the past however
many years that I've beenlistening to him.
So I know I'm gushing and I'mtotally fangirling at this point
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, but I could gush about richall day long and I really hope
to meet him someday.
I.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Know you've definitely shared with me so
many times about the things thatyou've heard him say and
episodes, and he's made such awonderful impact on you and it's
been evident and and I thinkit's a great, great
recommendation he's clearly thekind of person you want to be
listening to on a regular basis.
Yeah, are there any recentepisodes of his show that stand
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out to you that you want to tellpeople about?
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Yeah, I mean they're all so good, but there is one in
particular that he released inJanuary of 2024.
He had the author Chip Conleyon, and that episode was called
midlife is a chrysalis, not acrisis.
Chip Conley on why life getsbetter with age.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Wow, that's a good title.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Yeah, cuz aging is a topic, as you know, I'm getting
more and more Excited about as Imove through these early 40s,
and in this episode the two ofthem just did such an amazing
job reframing the concept ofaging and it was just a really
beautiful episode and for meit's really good for the mindset
reinforcement, having a mindsetthat doesn't dread or fear
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growing older, but trulyembraces it.
And I know you've struggledwith that a little bit more than
I have, especially over thepast year.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
I yeah, I mean, I think life definitely caught up
with me recently when I finallytore my ACL, which is really the
first time I've had any kind ofmajor injury in my life, one
that required certainly surgeryand slowed me down, and it was
just, I think, just a momentwhere, yeah, you have to come to
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terms with where you are, whoyou are and accept that you know
you're not in your 20s not thatI felt that I was holding on to
that too much, but it just wasa defining experience and
certainly, I think, lends itselfback to some of the things that
you've talked about in terms ofhow do you adjust your mindset
so that way you can still carryforward, re-center myself and,
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you know, be the best version ofmyself where I am today,
instead of holding on toanything about where I might
have been in years past.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Yeah, and it was like all things that don't seem good
at first.
I think it was a really goodopportunity for you to have some
personal growth in that area,and this actually reminds me I
haven't sent you this episodeyet to listen to, so I'm going
to do that.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
That sounds great.
I look forward to listening toit.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Okay, and just one more note on the Rich Roll
podcast.
At the end of every year hereleases what is usually a
two-part best of the yearepisode, so that's a great place
to start with him just goingback to those end of the year
episodes and getting snippets ofhis many powerful conversations
from the year prior.
So I recommend itwholeheartedly.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
In case that wasn't obvious, so, in addition to Rich
Roll, what other podcasts doyou like that you want other
people to consider listening to?
Speaker 2 (18:35):
All right, just to prove that I'm not all business
all the time in regards to onlyconsuming health-related media.
I also love this American life,which has also been around
forever.
It's a public radio programpodcast hosted by the great Ira
Glass, and it is storytelling atits best A lot of current
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events, news-related stories,and there's a different theme
every week.
You'll laugh, you'll cry.
It's all over the place.
And Pod meets world.
I make no effort to hide mydeep and undying love for 90s
pop culture and last year Istarted getting into Pod meets
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world with Danielle Fischel,will Friedle and Ryder Strong,
otherwise known as Topanga Ericand Sean from the iconic TGIF
sitcom Boy Meets World man.
Do I love it?
In fact, I've kind of gottenbehind on all of my other
podcasts listening because Podmeets world releases multiple
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episodes per week, so I'm stillnot even caught up to their
current episode.
It's just for me, it's justnostalgia at its best, and it's
for 90s nostalgia.
It's just the more of themerrier for me.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
It's fun watching you listen to that in the mornings,
because I think it helps youstart your day off well.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Yeah, and just like with Tara Schuster's book, you
often hear me laughing out loud.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
She often does Shifting gears.
You've definitely made somegood new recipes lately and I'm
wondering if you wanted to shareany of those with your audience
.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Yes, anytime I make a super health promoting new
recipe that you, I and ourteenager enjoy, it is a huge win
.
So I want to share the brainbuilding totally possible.
Burgers by team Shersi.
This is SHERZAI, and theShersi's are a husband and wife
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neurologist team, and theirfocus is on lifestyle changes
for long term brain health andprevention of Alzheimer's and
dementia.
They teach at Loma LindaUniversity, which is one of the
blue zones shout out blue zonesand so they came up with this
awesome veggie burger that Imade a couple weeks ago, and all
of us loved them.
It's definitely a little bitlabor intensive, but the burger
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is chock full of nutrients, withingredients like mushrooms,
walnuts, beets, beans and abunch of spices, and so I made a
few minor adjustments to therecipe for our personal
preference, but it would be fineas is too, I'm sure and it's a
great replacement for thesimilar kind of store bought
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meatless burgers that aregenerally not actually the
healthiest.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
That was definitely a great meal.
Always when all three of usenjoy a meal, that is reason to
cheer.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Yes, I have a running list of a rotation of things
that are approved by all of us.
Let's just say that.
But I've also learned to notmake a new recipe too frequently
, because then I run the risk ofit being rejected if I overdo
it.
So it's all a dance, it's all abalance, right?
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We'll put the link for thebrain building totally possible
burgers in the show notes sothat you can see it and try to
make it as well.
And thank you to Team Shersaifor coming up with that awesome
recipe and releasing it to allof us.
And then another one.
I want to mention that I justmade for Valentine's Day
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Danielle Walker, who's huge outthere in the autoimmune cooking
world Danielle Walker'schocolate, strawberry frozen
yogurt bites.
So this was an interestingrecipe.
She put it on her Instagrampage and so, yeah, danielle is
just a pro and such a veteranand she's always been very close
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to my heart because she hasbattled all-certificolytus too,
and our stories are actuallypretty similar in a lot of ways.
She's released a bunch ofcookbooks that are filled with
health-promoting recipes and arefood sensitivity friendly, and
everything is gluten-free, andmost of her recipes are
dairy-free too, and she just hasthe best recipes.
So for Valentine's Day, whenshe posted this on Instagram I
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was like ooh, that looks good.
And she called it her take onthe trending chocolate
strawberry frozen yogurt bites.
I didn't know that they weretrending, but I'm usually a step
or two behind on what'strending on Instagram, so that
didn't surprise me, but I waslike that looks fun.
So I decided to make it as justa fun little Valentine's thing
and they were tasty, littledairy-free treats, great
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ingredients and, again, we allloved them.
Now I will add that I'm notalways the best at crafting
beautiful, instagram-worthyfinal products with new recipes,
and this was one of those timeswhere my batch kind of turned
out looking like something you'dsee on Nailed it.
Remember that show, the BakingFails show.
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For some reason, the firstcouple went okay, but then the
more I did the chocolate dippingit just it didn't go so well.
So they looked a little rough,but they tasted really delicious
.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
They certainly tasted a lot better than at the end
they were looking, but I'm soglad you made them.
It was a wonderful Valentine'sDay treat.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Let's just say I'm no Daniel Walker okay, but I'm
gonna.
I'm drinking a tri again andhopefully it'll go better
visually speaking.
So if you want to try these aswell, we'll put that recipe or
that link to her Instagram postin the show notes as well.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Isn't she the one that also developed the barbecue
chicken recipe that's been sucha hit for so long?
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Yes, my slow cooker.
Well, danielle's slow cookerbarbecue chicken recipe I have
been making for years and Iusually make it when we have
company and it is such a hit.
Everyone always loves it.
So, yeah, definitely check outher cookbooks, and she has a lot
of recipes on her website aswell.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Thank, you All right.
How about we talk abouthealth-promoting products?
I know you're always tryingthose out and you seem to come
across a lot of really good ones.
Are there any that you want toshare with the audience?
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Oh yes, mocktail club mocktails.
We discovered these at WholeFoods a while back and then we
found them at our regulargrocery store too.
So these are little cannedmocktails and they've been
really nice to have on hand.
They have clean and simpleingredients, including apple
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cider vinegar.
There's no refined sugar, noartificial colors or flavors, no
junk, which, of course, mattersgreatly.
So these are a greatreplacement for alcohol, and
alcohol is something that I'veblogged about, but I haven't yet
addressed it on this podcastand I'm not going to go into it
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too deep right now because now'snot the time.
But there is more and moreevidence that alcohol is really
not good for us and I'm going tobe totally honest in that.
I can't say that I never have adrink.
I'm not there yet, but I rarelydrink now, and you don't drink
at all and you haven't for manyyears.
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So for both of us, these littlecanned mocktails have been
really nice and kind of a funway for us to still feel like
we're having a special littledrink, just without the alcohol.
We usually open a can likecocktail hour, before dinner,
maybe while I'm cooking, we'llopen a can and we've been
splitting it between the two ofus and I think my favorite
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flavor is the Capri Spritz.
That's true of you too, right?
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Yes, I think that one is my favorite as well.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Now I do have to say, just like with food, it's
always better to make your ownmocktails from fresh ingredients
, and I definitely do thatsometimes too.
When you make it yourself, youcan use all organic ingredients,
and these mocktails use someorganic ingredients, but I don't
believe they're completelyorganic.
So I know there is a brand ortwo out there that are certified
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organic, but I can't speak tothose yet because I haven't
tried them.
But I'm keeping my eyes out.
So when you asked forrecommendations on health
promoting products, I wanted torecommend these mocktail club
mocktails now, because I reallybelieve, even if they aren't
perfect, if they will help youcut down on alcohol, then that
is a worthy trade and a healthpromoting trade as well, for
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sure.
All that being said, one of mynear future goals is to start
playing around with making myown mocktails at home more,
which could be fun, and you canget in on that with me.
We can see what we can come upwith.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Yeah, that sounds really fun.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Okay, and because I haven't said it yet, I am not
getting paid for any of theserecommendations that I'm making
today.
I forgot to mention thatearlier.
I don't have any priorarrangements or partnerships
with any of these people orproducts that I'm mentioning
today.
I just love to share witheveryone what I found to be a
good and healthy thing.
That being said, if any of themshould want to pay me for the
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recommendations, that's cool.
I have Venmo, or maybe, likeone of the Danielle's that I've
mentioned today, danielle Walkeror Danielle Fishel from
Podmeets World, we could gettogether and go have a mocktail
club mocktail together.
Wow, that would seriously belike.
(28:14):
If that were to happen, I'djust have peaked.
Nice, I'm kidding.
I'm kidding, of course, butseriously, danielle's call me.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
This has been a lot of fun sharing with you and I
know we've covered a lot ofground.
Is there anything else thatyou've come across recently that
you want to leave as a partingthought for the audience?
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Yes, there is one more thing that I want to
mention before we wrap up today.
The other day there was aWashington Post article on
ultra-processed foods, andwhenever there is a
health-related article thatcatches my eye as being
something that's reallyhealth-promoting, I get really
excited, and I have to say theWashington Post has had a bunch
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of these recently.
So good job, washington Post.
This article was published onFebruary 29th, leap Day, and it
was called Ultra Process FoodsLinked to 32 Health Problems
what to Know.
The author is Rachel Panett Ihope I'm saying that right,
panett Panay, perhaps.
The article talks aboutcomprehensive research results
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that were just published in theBritish Medical Journal.
That involved almost 10 millionpeople and the research results
found quote a directassociation between eating too
many ultra-processed foods thosebreads, cereal, snacks and
frozen meals that have beenindustrially manufactured with
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flavors and additives to makethem more palatable and more
than 30 health conditions,including heart disease, anxiety
and early death.
End quote.
So there's nothing in thearticle that truly shocked me
and probably wouldn't shock mostpeople, but I really appreciate
this article for severalreasons.
One, because it specificallymentions how this research found
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not just physical effects likeobesity, cardiovascular disease,
diabetes, cancer and chronicdiseases, but it also includes
the findings on mental healthtoo.
Relative effects like anxietyand depression are mentioned and
the mental health effects ofhighly-and-ultra-processed foods
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.
That is something that I don'tthink is discussed nearly enough
.
The physical effects,truthfully, aren't discussed
enough, of course, either, butthat's all the more true for the
mental health effects.
So I was really glad to seethat included and the whole
article is worth reading andwe'll link to this in the show
notes as well, because it reallyreinforces how destructive a
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regular intake of these foodscan be.
So one more quote I'll justshare from the article, but I do
encourage you to read the wholething.
The article says quote theyfound convincing evidence that
high-ultra-processed food intakewas associated with about a 50%
increase risk of cardiovasculardisease-related death and a
48-53% higher risk of anxietyand common mental disorders.
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End quote.
So those two stats jumped outat me the most, because we're
talking about massivelyincreasing your risk for some
pretty serious stuff.
I do want to add that thearticle mentions that in the
research that the group used tocome up with these findings
quote none of them was funded bycompanies making
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ultra-processed food.
End quote.
No surprise there, all right,so I think we did it.
I think we're done for today.
I do want to mention, before wego, that on my website, which is
kellybhainycom, I have anentire resources page, and there
you can find a variety of otherbooks, podcasts, people to
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follow and other things, andthese are all resources that I
have personally found real valuein throughout my healing
journey, and so again I want topay it forward by recommending
these great health-promotingresources to others who I
believe can find value in it aswell.
So again, that iskellybhainycom.
(32:16):
I also want to mention thatright now, my website is pretty
basic and built around the blogthat I formally gave a lot more
attention to before shifting tothe podcast, and that is going
to change very soon.
I'm working with an awesomecreative team who is putting
together a beautiful new, muchmore comprehensive website that
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I truly hope can bring a wholelot of value to everyone, and
we're looking for that to launchvery soon, sometime next month,
which will be April 2024.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
I'm really excited for your new website.
I am sure it's going to look sonice.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Yeah, super excited, so coming soon.
Stay tuned, okay, brian, thankyou for being my co-host today.
I hope you had some fun.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
I sure did.
Thanks for letting me come on.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Thank you so much for joining us today.
This was a fun episode and Ihope you really enjoyed
listening to it.
If you have found value in thispodcast, I would so greatly
appreciate it If you would takea second to subscribe, download
rate and review and, of course,please share it with anyone who
you think would find value in itas well.
I am truly honored to walkalongside of you as we heal and
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stay healed together.
Welcome to the Heal and Stay Healed podcast, where
we talk about healing and, moreimportantly, staying healed from
chronic disease and otherailments and issues.
We'll cover all the crazythings about health and life the
good, the bad, the ugly and thehilarious.
My name is Kelly and I'm asurvivor and overcomer of severe
(00:31):
autoimmune disease, and I can'twait to share with you what
I've learned so that you canheal and stay healed too.
Thanks for listening and enjoythe show.
Welcome back to the Heal andStay Healed with Kelly Bihini
(00:54):
podcast.
Thanks so much for joining ustoday.
Being that a lot of my episodesthus far have had a fairly
serious tone, as is natural dueto the fairly serious topics
that we discuss, I thought itwas time for a more fun and a
little more lighthearted episode.
So today with me I have aformer podcast guest who has,
(01:19):
for the day, been upgraded toco-host, my real life partner,
brian Heaney.
Welcome, co-host Brian.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Thank you, kelly, for having me on.
I look forward to thistemporary promotion to co-host
and I'm really excited to beable to have a lighthearted and
fun conversation with you, and Ihope your audience gets a lot
out of what we get to talk abouttoday.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Well, we have a looser Q&A style format today.
Brian's going to be asking mesome great questions and there
will be lots of sharing some ofmy favorite things with you,
which will be a randomassortment of things that I've
come across that have all been apart of my healing journey, and
some of them are very recent,so I'm pretty excited for this.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Yeah, I think it's time for us to turn the
microphone around and ask yousome questions for a change,
because you've done such a goodjob interviewing and having some
great episodes with your guests.
Are you ready for that?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
I sure am ready.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
All right, here we go .
We'll start with one that I ampretty interested in.
In naming your podcast, why didyou decide to call it the Heal
and Stay Healed podcast?
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Yeah, that's a good question.
I've been asked this a bunch oftimes and my thought process was
being that I am coming from theperspective of someone with
autoimmune disease who hasbattled and overcome autoimmune
disease, which is, of course, achronic illness.
It's not just about healing,because with a chronic illness,
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chronic means reoccurring.
So with things like autoimmunedisease, you may have a flare
and you may heal from that flare, but healing isn't necessarily
the desired outcome.
It's really the staying healedpart that we want, because it's
one thing to have a flare, healfrom that flare and then, a few
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months down the road, or even acouple of years down the road,
have another flare and just haveit be something that you're
just continuously having tobattle and having to be on the
lookout for.
It's quite another thing to getto a point where you are
staying healed, where you don'thave to constantly be dealing
with flares, you don't have toconstantly be worried about
(03:36):
dealing with flares and gettingto the point where you can
really believe that you not onlyhave healed but that you are
staying healed.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Well, that's really interesting because I feel like
I've seen that progression inyour life of not just treating
symptoms and hoping for a periodof time that you don't
experience them, to now you'rewalking in health and its body,
mind and spirit and you see it,it embodies every domain and
every dimension of who you areand I think that that's been a
(04:10):
really interesting thing for meto watch that journey and that
progress towards being healed,staying healed and having it
kind of encompass you.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Yeah, you've had a front row seat for sure.
In thinking of it as okay, whatsets me apart?
A lot of people talk abouthealing, not as many people talk
about staying healed, so that'shence the name of why I thought
, okay, this is what I'm allabout, so let's just go ahead
and put it in the name.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Love it.
It's a great name and it's evenmore fun to watch you live it
out All right, so let's switchgears now.
You are always reading orlistening to something health
related.
There's always something thatyou're consuming.
I'd love to know what you'drecommend to others, that either
something you've read orsomething that you listen to.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Yes, a couple of books that I've recently read
come right to mind, and one ofthem was recommended to me, so I
will pay it forward byrecommending it to the audience.
It is called the Well-LivedLife a 102 year old doctor's six
secrets to health and happinessat every age.
So obviously that's very eyecatching that the author is a
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102 year old doctor.
This was written last year, soshe's actually 103 now and her
name is Gladys McGary.
In reading the book, I was justblown away.
I was like, did she reallywrite this?
And so I looked up a bunch ofvideos and I'm like, yeah, she
totally did, because she issharp as a tack.
She looks at least 20 yearsyounger, and even if she was 20
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years younger she would still beincredibly impressive.
So to know that she is now 103is just mind blowing.
Reading this book, it was justlovely.
It was just filled with suchpositive energy and it felt like
I was like sitting down with asage which she surely is and it
was just an experience of justletting her many, many, many
(06:14):
years of life experience, thewisdom that she's gained just
kind of wash over me.
So it was really beautifulstuff.
She's all about that mindset.
She's very big on the mind bodyconnection and she keeps coming
back to love as the center ofhealing, particularly with
holistic healing, and sheexplains all of this not in a
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cheesy way but in a reallypractical sense.
That really left me pondering alot of things.
So I definitely recommend thisbook.
It's very just, well-roundedand comprehensive and very
encouraging, and it was light.
Even though she talked aboutsome heavy stuff, it felt very
light and I read it very quickly.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Wow, that sounds really fantastic, when I really
love that concept of love, kindof being an anchor anytime you
can hear from a centenarianthat's clearly doing some
amazing things and willing toshare.
I'm sure that that was a reallyempowering and uplifting read.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Yeah, and I forgot to mention she is known as the
mother of holistic medicine,which is pretty cool too, and I
always look for folks who havelived to be centenarians or just
have lived to a very old age.
Those are the people that Iwant to be hearing from.
I want to hear what they'vedone, how they've lived their
lives.
I want to hear all of thewisdom that they've gained in
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their many decades of life andexperiences, and I want to hear
what sets them apart.
What have they done, maybedifferently, to get them to this
point, especially when they'rejust so incredibly clearly
cognitively healthy?
Like Dr MacGarria's, I'm alsofascinated by the blue zones
that Dan Butner writes about,and there's also a documentary
(07:59):
out on the blue zones now, too.
And Dan Butner studied thelocations in the world that are
home to the world's oldestpeople, places where you find an
exceptional amount ofcentenarians, and that's
Sardinia, italy, okinawa, japan,nikoia, costa Rica, ikaria,
greece and Loma Linda.
California is the one in the US.
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Butner has studied thelifestyle commonalities among
these people in these areas and,not surprisingly, they include
healthier diets.
They're mostly plant-basedcultures.
Movement is part of their dailylives, lots of walking.
Another standout is theirsocial life Community is
integral to all of these, and Ifind that extra intriguing, as
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that's something that seems tobe declining a bit more these
days, in the non-blue zones forsure.
Another big thing is that theyhave a sense of purpose, even in
their older years.
It's really interesting stuff,and Dr MacGarry essentially
touches on all of the thingsthat Dan Butner found in the
blue zones, and her big thing isthat last one that I mentioned,
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purpose, which she calls yourjuice, which is really, really
cute, and she writes about it ina really fun way.
So anyway, I'm really intriguedby centenarians.
Not that living forever or evento such an old age is
necessarily the goal, but for me, living in a way that not only
keeps me physically healthy butmentally sharp and able to enjoy
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life and to still contributegreatly to the world in those
later years, I think is a reallynice goal.
And with Dr MacGarry she, at103, has a 10-year plan, which I
think is amazing.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
No, that sounds awesome, and I also love the
fountain of youth being purposethat your juice is critical to
living a long and fulfillinglife and staving off all the
things that you see can comeagainst that.
That's wonderful.
And speaking of there's apersonal connection that you had
an aunt that lived to over 100years old.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
My great aunt, my dad's aunt, aunt Kay, lived to
108.
Wow, a great aunt.
By marriage, not by blood, so Idon't have those genes,
unfortunately, aunt Kay just inthinking about.
Ok, how are the ways that Isuspect that she lived so long?
Aunt Kay radiated love.
(10:22):
She never was able to have kidsof her own but she essentially
adopted countless nieces andnephews and these are ones who
were related to her, and thenher great nieces and nephews,
but also there were just aplethora of neighborhood kids
would run up and visit her andeveryone called her Aunt Kay,
just everyone called her AuntKay.
(10:43):
So she was an incredible ladywho, just again, like I said,
just radiated love and she gotso much joy from being around
children and just giving so muchto others.
So that is very telltale and agood way to live if you want to
live to 108.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
No, I remember getting the chance to meet her
once before she passed away andI was blown away by, just at her
age, the energy that she stillhad and clearly she yeah,
absolutely radiated love and Waspretty remarkable to be able to
meet her.
Okay, do you have any otherbooks that you want to recommend
that you've read recently thathave been impactful to you?
Speaker 2 (11:24):
yes.
So we're going from sweet tosassy now on the Total opposite
end of the spectrum.
My next recommendation I'mgoing to have to edit the title
because this is a clean podcast,but it's called by yourself the
bleep in lilies and Otherrituals to fix your life, from
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someone who's been there.
So the author is Tara Schuster.
Tara Schuster is a comedywriter and that clearly plays a
major role in this book.
So so obviously that's a veryeye-catching title, but it's
essentially a beginner's guideto self-care.
For those who don't mind Crasshumor, clearly it's got a bunch
(12:07):
of that.
It is hardly an instructionmanual on self-care, but instead
it is a fun, very light read.
That definitely got me tochuckle a bunch.
That being said, it will getyou thinking about the concept
of taking care of Ourselves more, and it provides a lot of
examples and some greatsuggestions for various forms of
(12:28):
self-care.
And Tara wrote this I believeshe was still in her 20s and a
single woman.
So it's from that perspectivefor a single woman on the
younger side, and it'll be mostrelatable for ladies who fall
into that category.
But, as someone who is not inthat category, it's certainly
applicable to older, non singlewomen as well, and I personally
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found it very inspirational justto be reminded of little ways
to make time for more self-carethroughout the day and
throughout your week, which issomething that, of course, I
believe is incredibly importantfor healing and staying healed.
So again, fun, not very seriousread, but on a topic that I do
think is very serious and thatwe all need to be taking very
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seriously.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
I do remember you reading this and busting out
laughing several times, and itcertainly made me curious as to
what was so good about it.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Yeah, she's pretty funny.
You know, I like to laugh.
I like funny stuff, and when Ican read about health and laugh
at the same time, that's awin-win.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
So, moving on from books, the other thing that I
watch you and see you do quiteoften is listen to podcasts.
Now, you get a lot out of themand I know you really enjoy them
.
Do you have any podcasts thatyou would like to recommend?
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Oh, yeah, this is not a new recommendation, but I
don't know that I'vespecifically talked about it on
the podcast yet.
The rich role podcast oh man,he is my favorite.
Rich is a vegan and ultraendurance athlete.
He's been in recovery and soberfor decades now.
(14:03):
He's a father and a husband aswell and he just is an
incredible person.
He has such an intuitive mindand has such an eloquence and a
way with words that just fewothers have.
His vocabulary is likeUnmatched and seriously off the
charts.
Each episode there's at leastone or two vocabulary words that
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I have to look up that he usesbecause I'm like I don't know
what that word means.
And then I look it up and likeyep, he used it perfectly and
naturally.
He is not pretentious in theslightest, he's just a really
gifted human being and he's beendoing his podcast thing since
like the beginning of podcasts,you know, over a decade ago.
He's just such a pro, has themost incredible conversations
(14:49):
with Extraordinary guests.
I've been introduced to so manypeople through him as they were
guests on his show and I'veread so many transforming books
by the guests on his show andhe's just a really humble, open
and vulnerable guy who getsembarrassed when people talk
about the massive impact hereally has had on them and in
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the world, because that'sclearly not what drives him.
He's been an unofficial mentorand an inspiration for me.
In fact, I really think I cancredit him for being the source
of a Decent chunk of my personalgrowth over the past however
many years that I've beenlistening to him.
So I know I'm gushing and I'mtotally fangirling at this point
(15:30):
, but I could gush about richall day long and I really hope
to meet him someday.
I.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Know you've definitely shared with me so
many times about the things thatyou've heard him say and
episodes, and he's made such awonderful impact on you and it's
been evident and and I thinkit's a great, great
recommendation he's clearly thekind of person you want to be
listening to on a regular basis.
Yeah, are there any recentepisodes of his show that stand
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out to you that you want to tellpeople about?
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Yeah, I mean they're all so good, but there is one in
particular that he released inJanuary of 2024.
He had the author Chip Conleyon, and that episode was called
midlife is a chrysalis, not acrisis.
Chip Conley on why life getsbetter with age.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Wow, that's a good title.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Yeah, cuz aging is a topic, as you know, I'm getting
more and more Excited about as Imove through these early 40s,
and in this episode the two ofthem just did such an amazing
job reframing the concept ofaging and it was just a really
beautiful episode and for meit's really good for the mindset
reinforcement, having a mindsetthat doesn't dread or fear
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growing older, but trulyembraces it.
And I know you've struggledwith that a little bit more than
I have, especially over thepast year.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
I yeah, I mean, I think life definitely caught up
with me recently when I finallytore my ACL, which is really the
first time I've had any kind ofmajor injury in my life, one
that required certainly surgeryand slowed me down, and it was
just, I think, just a momentwhere, yeah, you have to come to
(17:17):
terms with where you are, whoyou are and accept that you know
you're not in your 20s not thatI felt that I was holding on to
that too much, but it just wasa defining experience and
certainly, I think, lends itselfback to some of the things that
you've talked about in terms ofhow do you adjust your mindset
so that way you can still carryforward, re-center myself and,
(17:40):
you know, be the best version ofmyself where I am today,
instead of holding on toanything about where I might
have been in years past.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Yeah, and it was like all things that don't seem good
at first.
I think it was a really goodopportunity for you to have some
personal growth in that area,and this actually reminds me I
haven't sent you this episodeyet to listen to, so I'm going
to do that.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
That sounds great.
I look forward to listening toit.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Okay, and just one more note on the Rich Roll
podcast.
At the end of every year hereleases what is usually a
two-part best of the yearepisode, so that's a great place
to start with him just goingback to those end of the year
episodes and getting snippets ofhis many powerful conversations
from the year prior.
So I recommend itwholeheartedly.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
In case that wasn't obvious, so, in addition to Rich
Roll, what other podcasts doyou like that you want other
people to consider listening to?
Speaker 2 (18:35):
All right, just to prove that I'm not all business
all the time in regards to onlyconsuming health-related media.
I also love this American life,which has also been around
forever.
It's a public radio programpodcast hosted by the great Ira
Glass, and it is storytelling atits best A lot of current
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events, news-related stories,and there's a different theme
every week.
You'll laugh, you'll cry.
It's all over the place.
And Pod meets world.
I make no effort to hide mydeep and undying love for 90s
pop culture and last year Istarted getting into Pod meets
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world with Danielle Fischel,will Friedle and Ryder Strong,
otherwise known as Topanga Ericand Sean from the iconic TGIF
sitcom Boy Meets World man.
Do I love it?
In fact, I've kind of gottenbehind on all of my other
podcasts listening because Podmeets world releases multiple
(19:40):
episodes per week, so I'm stillnot even caught up to their
current episode.
It's just for me, it's justnostalgia at its best, and it's
for 90s nostalgia.
It's just the more of themerrier for me.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
It's fun watching you listen to that in the mornings,
because I think it helps youstart your day off well.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Yeah, and just like with Tara Schuster's book, you
often hear me laughing out loud.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
She often does Shifting gears.
You've definitely made somegood new recipes lately and I'm
wondering if you wanted to shareany of those with your audience
.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Yes, anytime I make a super health promoting new
recipe that you, I and ourteenager enjoy, it is a huge win
.
So I want to share the brainbuilding totally possible.
Burgers by team Shersi.
This is SHERZAI, and theShersi's are a husband and wife
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neurologist team, and theirfocus is on lifestyle changes
for long term brain health andprevention of Alzheimer's and
dementia.
They teach at Loma LindaUniversity, which is one of the
blue zones shout out blue zonesand so they came up with this
awesome veggie burger that Imade a couple weeks ago, and all
of us loved them.
It's definitely a little bitlabor intensive, but the burger
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is chock full of nutrients, withingredients like mushrooms,
walnuts, beets, beans and abunch of spices, and so I made a
few minor adjustments to therecipe for our personal
preference, but it would be fineas is too, I'm sure and it's a
great replacement for thesimilar kind of store bought
(21:21):
meatless burgers that aregenerally not actually the
healthiest.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
That was definitely a great meal.
Always when all three of usenjoy a meal, that is reason to
cheer.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Yes, I have a running list of a rotation of things
that are approved by all of us.
Let's just say that.
But I've also learned to notmake a new recipe too frequently
, because then I run the risk ofit being rejected if I overdo
it.
So it's all a dance, it's all abalance, right?
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We'll put the link for thebrain building totally possible
burgers in the show notes sothat you can see it and try to
make it as well.
And thank you to Team Shersaifor coming up with that awesome
recipe and releasing it to allof us.
And then another one.
I want to mention that I justmade for Valentine's Day
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Danielle Walker, who's huge outthere in the autoimmune cooking
world Danielle Walker'schocolate, strawberry frozen
yogurt bites.
So this was an interestingrecipe.
She put it on her Instagrampage and so, yeah, danielle is
just a pro and such a veteranand she's always been very close
(22:36):
to my heart because she hasbattled all-certificolytus too,
and our stories are actuallypretty similar in a lot of ways.
She's released a bunch ofcookbooks that are filled with
health-promoting recipes and arefood sensitivity friendly, and
everything is gluten-free, andmost of her recipes are
dairy-free too, and she just hasthe best recipes.
So for Valentine's Day, whenshe posted this on Instagram I
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was like ooh, that looks good.
And she called it her take onthe trending chocolate
strawberry frozen yogurt bites.
I didn't know that they weretrending, but I'm usually a step
or two behind on what'strending on Instagram, so that
didn't surprise me, but I waslike that looks fun.
So I decided to make it as justa fun little Valentine's thing
and they were tasty, littledairy-free treats, great
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ingredients and, again, we allloved them.
Now I will add that I'm notalways the best at crafting
beautiful, instagram-worthyfinal products with new recipes,
and this was one of those timeswhere my batch kind of turned
out looking like something you'dsee on Nailed it.
Remember that show, the BakingFails show.
(23:43):
For some reason, the firstcouple went okay, but then the
more I did the chocolate dippingit just it didn't go so well.
So they looked a little rough,but they tasted really delicious
.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
They certainly tasted a lot better than at the end
they were looking, but I'm soglad you made them.
It was a wonderful Valentine'sDay treat.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Let's just say I'm no Daniel Walker okay, but I'm
gonna.
I'm drinking a tri again andhopefully it'll go better
visually speaking.
So if you want to try these aswell, we'll put that recipe or
that link to her Instagram postin the show notes as well.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Isn't she the one that also developed the barbecue
chicken recipe that's been sucha hit for so long?
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Yes, my slow cooker.
Well, danielle's slow cookerbarbecue chicken recipe I have
been making for years and Iusually make it when we have
company and it is such a hit.
Everyone always loves it.
So, yeah, definitely check outher cookbooks, and she has a lot
of recipes on her website aswell.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Thank, you All right.
How about we talk abouthealth-promoting products?
I know you're always tryingthose out and you seem to come
across a lot of really good ones.
Are there any that you want toshare with the audience?
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Oh yes, mocktail club mocktails.
We discovered these at WholeFoods a while back and then we
found them at our regulargrocery store too.
So these are little cannedmocktails and they've been
really nice to have on hand.
They have clean and simpleingredients, including apple
(25:21):
cider vinegar.
There's no refined sugar, noartificial colors or flavors, no
junk, which, of course, mattersgreatly.
So these are a greatreplacement for alcohol, and
alcohol is something that I'veblogged about, but I haven't yet
addressed it on this podcastand I'm not going to go into it
(25:43):
too deep right now because now'snot the time.
But there is more and moreevidence that alcohol is really
not good for us and I'm going tobe totally honest in that.
I can't say that I never have adrink.
I'm not there yet, but I rarelydrink now, and you don't drink
at all and you haven't for manyyears.
(26:04):
So for both of us, these littlecanned mocktails have been
really nice and kind of a funway for us to still feel like
we're having a special littledrink, just without the alcohol.
We usually open a can likecocktail hour, before dinner,
maybe while I'm cooking, we'llopen a can and we've been
splitting it between the two ofus and I think my favorite
(26:24):
flavor is the Capri Spritz.
That's true of you too, right?
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Yes, I think that one is my favorite as well.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Now I do have to say, just like with food, it's
always better to make your ownmocktails from fresh ingredients
, and I definitely do thatsometimes too.
When you make it yourself, youcan use all organic ingredients,
and these mocktails use someorganic ingredients, but I don't
believe they're completelyorganic.
So I know there is a brand ortwo out there that are certified
(26:53):
organic, but I can't speak tothose yet because I haven't
tried them.
But I'm keeping my eyes out.
So when you asked forrecommendations on health
promoting products, I wanted torecommend these mocktail club
mocktails now, because I reallybelieve, even if they aren't
perfect, if they will help youcut down on alcohol, then that
is a worthy trade and a healthpromoting trade as well, for
(27:15):
sure.
All that being said, one of mynear future goals is to start
playing around with making myown mocktails at home more,
which could be fun, and you canget in on that with me.
We can see what we can come upwith.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Yeah, that sounds really fun.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Okay, and because I haven't said it yet, I am not
getting paid for any of theserecommendations that I'm making
today.
I forgot to mention thatearlier.
I don't have any priorarrangements or partnerships
with any of these people orproducts that I'm mentioning
today.
I just love to share witheveryone what I found to be a
good and healthy thing.
That being said, if any of themshould want to pay me for the
(27:53):
recommendations, that's cool.
I have Venmo, or maybe, likeone of the Danielle's that I've
mentioned today, danielle Walkeror Danielle Fishel from
Podmeets World, we could gettogether and go have a mocktail
club mocktail together.
Wow, that would seriously belike.
(28:14):
If that were to happen, I'djust have peaked.
Nice, I'm kidding.
I'm kidding, of course, butseriously, danielle's call me.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
This has been a lot of fun sharing with you and I
know we've covered a lot ofground.
Is there anything else thatyou've come across recently that
you want to leave as a partingthought for the audience?
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Yes, there is one more thing that I want to
mention before we wrap up today.
The other day there was aWashington Post article on
ultra-processed foods, andwhenever there is a
health-related article thatcatches my eye as being
something that's reallyhealth-promoting, I get really
excited, and I have to say theWashington Post has had a bunch
(28:59):
of these recently.
So good job, washington Post.
This article was published onFebruary 29th, leap Day, and it
was called Ultra Process FoodsLinked to 32 Health Problems
what to Know.
The author is Rachel Panett Ihope I'm saying that right,
panett Panay, perhaps.
The article talks aboutcomprehensive research results
(29:21):
that were just published in theBritish Medical Journal.
That involved almost 10 millionpeople and the research results
found quote a directassociation between eating too
many ultra-processed foods thosebreads, cereal, snacks and
frozen meals that have beenindustrially manufactured with
(29:41):
flavors and additives to makethem more palatable and more
than 30 health conditions,including heart disease, anxiety
and early death.
End quote.
So there's nothing in thearticle that truly shocked me
and probably wouldn't shock mostpeople, but I really appreciate
this article for severalreasons.
One, because it specificallymentions how this research found
(30:04):
not just physical effects likeobesity, cardiovascular disease,
diabetes, cancer and chronicdiseases, but it also includes
the findings on mental healthtoo.
Relative effects like anxietyand depression are mentioned and
the mental health effects ofhighly-and-ultra-processed foods
(30:24):
.
That is something that I don'tthink is discussed nearly enough
.
The physical effects,truthfully, aren't discussed
enough, of course, either, butthat's all the more true for the
mental health effects.
So I was really glad to seethat included and the whole
article is worth reading andwe'll link to this in the show
notes as well, because it reallyreinforces how destructive a
(30:46):
regular intake of these foodscan be.
So one more quote I'll justshare from the article, but I do
encourage you to read the wholething.
The article says quote theyfound convincing evidence that
high-ultra-processed food intakewas associated with about a 50%
increase risk of cardiovasculardisease-related death and a
48-53% higher risk of anxietyand common mental disorders.
(31:11):
End quote.
So those two stats jumped outat me the most, because we're
talking about massivelyincreasing your risk for some
pretty serious stuff.
I do want to add that thearticle mentions that in the
research that the group used tocome up with these findings
quote none of them was funded bycompanies making
(31:31):
ultra-processed food.
End quote.
No surprise there, all right,so I think we did it.
I think we're done for today.
I do want to mention, before wego, that on my website, which is
kellybhainycom, I have anentire resources page, and there
you can find a variety of otherbooks, podcasts, people to
(31:54):
follow and other things, andthese are all resources that I
have personally found real valuein throughout my healing
journey, and so again I want topay it forward by recommending
these great health-promotingresources to others who I
believe can find value in it aswell.
So again, that iskellybhainycom.
(32:16):
I also want to mention thatright now, my website is pretty
basic and built around the blogthat I formally gave a lot more
attention to before shifting tothe podcast, and that is going
to change very soon.
I'm working with an awesomecreative team who is putting
together a beautiful new, muchmore comprehensive website that
(32:39):
I truly hope can bring a wholelot of value to everyone, and
we're looking for that to launchvery soon, sometime next month,
which will be April 2024.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
I'm really excited for your new website.
I am sure it's going to look sonice.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Yeah, super excited, so coming soon.
Stay tuned, okay, brian, thankyou for being my co-host today.
I hope you had some fun.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
I sure did.
Thanks for letting me come on.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Thank you so much for joining us today.
This was a fun episode and Ihope you really enjoyed
listening to it.
If you have found value in thispodcast, I would so greatly
appreciate it If you would takea second to subscribe, download
rate and review and, of course,please share it with anyone who
you think would find value in itas well.
I am truly honored to walkalongside of you as we heal and
(33:35):
stay healed together.
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