January 27, 2025 • 31 mins
Prioritizing fitness may be the key to unlocking greater income and professional satisfaction. We discuss the direct correlation between health and wealth, the challenges faced by entrepreneurs, and emphasize the importance of community accountability in fitness routines.
• Importance of prioritizing health to enhance productivity
• Differences between entrepreneurs and business owners
• Barriers that prevent business owners from focusing on fitness
• Seeking discomfort to build discipline
• Benefits of finding a supportive fitness community
• Realistic approaches to nutrition in today's society
• Final actionable advice for aspiring entrepreneurs and fitness-seekers
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
Hello and welcome to Help the Fitness Redefined.
I'm your host, anthony, andtoday we have another great
episode for all of you.
But before we get into theepisode, welcome to 2025.
Oh my God, crazy.
This is five years we've beendoing this.
Thank you for all you guyslistening.
Follow along.
(00:35):
We got some exciting stuffcoming out of our main parent
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We are going through a crazyrebranding, a crazy, just
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We're changing our logo.
We're becoming more into themedical community.
It's going to be exciting.
You guys just can't wait andwith this show, obviously follow
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along.
That it's all thanks to thelisteners here, showing that
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Is that top tier?
So excited to announce thatwithout further.
Just welcome to the show, dan.
Dan, it's a pleasure to haveyou on today yeah, I appreciate
you having me man.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
I'm excited for this yeah, me too.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
We got someone local for once.
I feel like the last guy wasfrom australia, so this is nice
to be back on this time zone.
No, he's teasing.
It's great get to interviewpeople everywhere.
Uh, before we hop into the show, though, just tell us a little
bit about yourself and how yougot into the health and fitness
world.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Yeah, absolutely so, dan Singer.
I'm a business coach, eosimplementer, so I work with
business owners and theirleadership teams and coach them
to help them get what they wantfrom their business.
Also a reservist in the MarineCorps, father of two, husband,
been into health and fitnessreally my entire life.
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Did mixed martial arts growingup, you know, from about 10
years old till I was 18.
Swam in high school as well.
So always kind of more on thatindividual effort, team type of
environment.
Um started lifting a lot ofweights in college and then kind
of got back into some jiu-jitsuand stuff.
Um, after college kept throughthat through the marine corps
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and then really started gettinginto more high intense stuff
after I went into the marinecorps.
So I went in at 25 um.
That was when I started runningfor the first time, which I
still despise, but I forcedmyself to do it and then found
CrossFit in 2014, which I'vebeen doing since then.
I'm not a CrossFit cultist,right.
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I think.
There's a lot of modalities outthere and they're all great.
I just happen to like itbecause it checks a lot of the
boxes.
All I got to do is show up.
There's a workout already there, I don't have to think about
programming.
I get to lift heavy weights, Iget to do body weight stuff, I
get to do cardio.
It's all packaged together andit kind of keeps my attention
span engaged.
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So it's been it's been ajourney for me.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
I love it.
And then, more specifically,you work with, obviously, a lot
of entrepreneurs, a lot ofbusiness owners, people that are
just trying to make it on theirown, but also, just before we
really hop into the topic, thiscan also apply for managers,
employees, I mean.
It doesn't have to be, you,don't have to be an entrepreneur
to I really feel like learnfrom where this conversation is
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going to head.
It's important to understandthat, even as an employee, this
is a priority, and I'm going tobranch that into the very first
question and just be as directas possible, because it's 2025,
so let's do it.
Is your health and fitnessdirectly related to the amount
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of money you make, yes or no?
Yes, why?
Speaker 1 (03:54):
I think by prioritizing yourself, your
fitness, your health, that itallows you to get to a space
where other things become easy,right?
So I heard a quote recently, Ithink it was a Mark Twain quote
eat the frog, right.
So the idea is, if you wake upin the morning, you know you
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have to eat a frog at some pointduring the day.
Eat it first thing in themorning, get that shit out of
the way, and then everythingelse becomes easy.
So for me, getting up at fiveo'clock sucks, like every day.
I've been doing it for years.
It still sucks.
Getting into the gym at sixo'clock and breaking myself off
for an hour sucks.
I feel great afterwards, butwhat it does is it sets the rest
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of my day up where everythingfeels like it's easier in
comparison.
And so my to-do list, my thingsthat I know I have to get done
to keep the business movingforward, is not as big of a
mental drain at that pointbecause I've done the hardest
thing that I'm going to do allday as soon as I got up and I
think you have a compoundingeffect of that.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Why do you think most people don't prioritize the
health and fitness world,especially in the business owner
entrepreneur world?
Because I've met a lot ofpeople and over half don't even
work out.
So yeah, why is?
Why is that a thing?
Speaker 1 (05:17):
uh, the short answer I think they're being lazy, I
think it's hard, I think itsucks and I think it's really
easy, especially as an owner.
You know this is not todiscount.
I mean there's a lot of shit onyour plate as a business owner.
There's a lot of pressure, alot of burden, and you can
either get in front of that anddo like what I said go do your
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hardest thing in the morning andthen make those other things
relatively feel easier, or youcan use all that hard shit
that's on your plate as anexcuse to not take care of
yourself.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
And I think that's the short answer.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
I think most people are just being lazy.
It's uncomfortable to get up atfive o'clock in the morning.
It's dark, it's cold, it sucks.
You're going into a gym to dohard shit.
It's easier to stay in bed tillseven o'clock and be
comfortable.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Yeah.
So it's the lack ofunderstanding to really do the
harder part of what's coming,and I'll talk a little bit.
Let me first clarify a point.
People think it's easierbecause I own gyms that it's
easier for me to work out it's.
I don't understand how hard itis to show it's actually.
I want you to imagine somethingfor a second, dan that you work
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in an office, setting right,and you go to work, you plug in,
you're in work.
Now I want you to go back toyour place of work, to go do
something that's stressrelieving.
You don't get to go to anoutside place like a gym.
You have to go back whereyou're in all the shit.
Everyone's talking to you,everyone wants your head and you
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have to find your relaxationand mental fortitude to push
through a workout at your placethat you own or work.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Way harder.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
A hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
And I still do it right.
I still there.
I add an extra hour to my day,I still show up.
I still do it right.
I still there.
I add an extra hour to my day,I still show up.
I still get it done.
It doesn't matter if we'recrushing it or we're doing
really poorly.
It's that's got to be mypriority and my mental clarity
to wake myself, to get myselfgoing, because if I don't do
that, I don't take care ofmyself, the business is going to
suffer and at the end of theday, that's the number one
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biggest priority.
I want to ask you a veryspecific question and tie it
into health and fitness.
So first it's going to feellike it's a little outside, but
then we'll double back.
What's the difference, in youropinion, between an entrepreneur
and a business owner?
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Okay, so I think an entrepreneur I kind of go to um,
there's a dynamic within eosthat we kind of capture.
You have the visionary andintegrator, which are two
critical roles.
Um, so think of steve jobs,steve wozniak.
Steve jobs is that visionarythat has all these crazy ideas.
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Um, steve wozniak is the guythat kind of sifts through them
and he's like that's the onethat I'm going to take and make
it executable.
I liken those two roles to whatyou're asking.
So I think the entrepreneur ismore of that visionary, someone
who's got a lot of ideas,they've got aspirations, they're
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probably a little bit ADD,they're the one that's a little
crazy, which allows them to takethat leap of just starting
something, and they're like fuckit, I'll figure it out, but I'm
going to make this work.
Whereas the business owner Ilook at more of that integrator
type of person that has thatequity piece in it and is really
good at getting thosemethodical things done every day
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.
But they're probably not theone that's constantly got all
these new ideas and branchingout and, you know, seeing
opportunities amongst all theshiny stuff.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
And have you found a correlation between how someone
takes care of themselves towhether or not they're an
entrepreneur or business owner?
Because I definitely see itbecause I definitely see it.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Yeah, I think so.
I mean it's a case by casebasis, right?
Like there's definitely and Ithink it comes down to how you
define success Because there'ssuccessful business owners out
there that financially right,their their top line revenue and
profitability is growing.
And you look at them and you'relike, are you physically aren't
taking care of yourself growing?
And you look at them and you'relike, oh, you physically aren't
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taking care of yourself.
But it comes back to what's thatdefinition of success, right?
Are you going home at the endof a 10 hour day and just lump
it on the couch and you're tootired to engage with your kids
and you'll have an activerelationship with your wife and
are you dealing with healthissues?
So to me, that's not successful.
Yeah, you're making a lot ofmoney, but your life outside
those four walls of yourbusiness sucks, right?
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I define success as being ableto have financial growth and
freedom, the ability to spendtime with your family how you
want, be there and be presentand engaged and have the energy
and not have these loominghealth issues over you.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Yeah, I'm even just to add to it kind of what I was
grasping at.
Business owners get stuck inthe I own a business.
Yes, they can make a lot ofmoney.
They still pull a salary forthemselves.
That's kind of their goals.
They want to have a businessbut make a salary for themselves
, while entrepreneurs are reallyhead first dive into it.
They all have ADD in thatbucket.
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And they're just taking theserisks to jump forward and move
the company forward and careless about the let me just make
a steady salary and call it myown more about leaving a mark on
this world or really pushingsomething beyond themselves and
then to tie that into health andfitness.
Those that are entrepreneurs,you see a lot more, understand
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the aspects of at least going tothe gym Yet again, taking a
risk of working out three orfour days a week, at least
eating healthy understandinglike I need this for my mental
clarity in order to have thesevisions to move forward, whereas
a business owner gets stuck inthe okay, it's the same
monotonous tasks over and, overand over again.
I get really good at them.
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My brain doesn't have to thinkand I'm just happy being in that
status quo and I feel like Ican meet somebody.
You know instantaneouslywhether what they are and I
could just figure that.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Yeah, yeah, I think you know it's interesting, right
?
It's like I we're all, ashumans, kind of programmed to
make pretty quick, snappyjudgments.
You know, I think it's part ofour DNA and survival tactics.
You know, when we were livingin the woods, Hold on it's 0.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Yeah, six seconds.
We make a decision on something, something like that, something
ridiculous, yeah and I thinkfrom a evolutionary standpoint
right.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
It's because you have to decide pretty quick like is
this a threat or not?
Do I fight flight?
Where am I going?
Right, and that's stillingrained in us.
And one of the things that I dois I look at someone and if
they're not taking care ofthemselves, I now extrapolate
that into everything else.
If you're not concerned aboutkeeping your health and fitness
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in check, what does that meanfor everything else in your life
If you can't prioritizeyourself first?
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Tie that into an employee now, because a lot more
people are in that range, right, a lot more people are
employees than employers.
Agreed, if you can't prioritizeyourself outside of work, how
do you expect you to prioritizeyourself inside of work?
Right, and there's always waysto help people and I'm a big
believer in that.
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Don't get me wrong.
I am all about take the bull bythe horn, ask for outside help
like that.
We do personal training.
We were talking pre-show, justso everyone knows the importance
of.
Even as an entrepreneur, I havea business coach, right, I
still have someone that coachesme and pushes me to go forward I
still have a team behind methat pushes me to go forward.
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So I still need thataccountability from the outside.
It's the same thing, for anemployee can have that
accountability from the outside.
Like you said, you want to showup to CrossFit, have the
workout planned out for you andnot think you just get through
because you know that they'rekeeping you accountable to show
up.
Same thing as an employee.
If you're going to go hire atrainer, have someone ready for
you so you don't have to thinkabout it, but you just show up
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and do it and the hardest partis showing up and then let
everyone else take care of therest 100%.
And that will pay back fourfoldabout whatever you're making
for, whatever it costs becauseof the A being an entrepreneur
or a business owner, you'regoing to be able to think
clearer.
You're going to be able to livelonger, so it's going to pay
out dividends for you or be asan employee.
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You're going to become moreproductive.
You're going to start buildingand do operations, do systems
for the company.
They're going to start noticinghigher levels of energy.
So with that you're going toget promoted.
You're going to move up theladder a lot quicker and be able
to make more money.
That way it's a win-win foryour regard.
One side and then even the flipside of all of that is why work
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your ass off, why work to makeall this money in the world if
you're just not going toprioritize yourself and you're
going to die at a young age oryou're going to have a health
problem at a young age and we'vementioned a lot last year.
But just to reiterate livinglife like a rectangle as opposed
to a standard deviation curve.
So don't live your life whereyou peak at a certain age, let's
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say in your 30s, and you slowlydwindle out and die.
That's a standard deviationcurve.
Live life like a rectangle.
You're born, you're living agreat life.
Whatever age you end up dying,you just die at the top, that's
it Dead.
It doesn't matter what age,it's, just not having that
debilitating slow end up in thehospital all the time you're
sick, all the time you have togo out of work because you have
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XYZ health issues, just becauseof things that are all
preventable.
That you would have taken careof that prior to nursing health
in the first place.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
You know it's funny.
You mentioned that too, becausethat's one of the things that
you know.
I just turned 40.
And I've heard throughout myentire life oh, wait till you
get till 30.
And I got there.
Nothing happened.
I'll wait till you're 35.
Okay, nothing happened.
Wait till you're 40.
I'm in better shape now thisyear than I have ever been, and
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that's not because I was ever innot good shape, right.
Like I didn't have one of thesestories where I lost 100 pounds
and now, because I'm in thebest shape of my life, it was in
comparison to being a bag ofshit.
Like I didn't have one of thesestories where I lost 100 pounds
and now, because I'm in thebest shape of my life, it was in
comparison to being a bag ofshit.
Like I've just incrementally,just like you said, gotten
better and better and better astime goes on.
And I think most of societyoverplays the age card and I
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think a lot of it's justbullshit.
The age card and I think a lotof it's just bullshit.
You know it's like if you allowthat seed to plant in your head
again, it now becomes theexcuse that you let yourself use
to not be disciplined.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
So as an outside like I mean non-fitness person just
because you don't own a fitnesscompany.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
So let me just clarify that point.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
I have a question, because I ask this a lot to
people who are in my field and Iwant to get a little more of
the outside perspective.
How do you get somebody tostart?
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Yeah, I mean it's really tough, right.
I almost look at it as, likeyou know someone who has spent
that amount of time notprioritizing their fitness.
I look at them in the samecontext as an alcoholic or a
drug addict.
You know their substance abuseis food.
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They have to want it.
Now you can.
I think you have an obligationpeople that you definitely, you
know, care about to be able tocall them out on that and say,
hey, like I'm letting you knowbecause I care about you and I'm
concerned, like I think youneed to get your shit together
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and get healthy, but they're notgoing to do it until they're
ready.
You know, and it's it's.
I see the same thing on thebusiness coaching side, right,
like every client that I workwith.
When I meet with them, they'relike I'm stuck, I'm not really
sure how to get unstuck, I needhelp.
And they look at EOS and me andthey're like and this is the
way out.
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But I've also been introduced toother business owners that they
recognize they're stuck butthey don't want help.
They're just kind ofcomfortable living in their day
to day.
And I think it's no differentwith fitness.
I don't, I don't.
I think they've got to get to apoint where they're like all
right, enough's enough, and theytake ownership of it right,
that's got to be an internallydriven decision and they take
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ownership of it.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Right, that's got to be an internally driven decision
, so there's no external factors.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
I think there's external, there's influencing,
right, there's external factorsthat can influence it.
But I think, ultimately, whenit comes down to it, that
decision and here's the thing, Ithink there's layers to the
decision right, you can havesort of a halfway bought in
decision of like, okay, it'sJanuary 1st, I'm gonna go to the
gym, right, and they're justgoing through the motions, and
then it fizzles out mid-February, that's, that's not.
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It like it's got to get to thepoint where someone's like I'm
done, I don't, I'm done lookinglike this, I'm done feeling this
way, I'm done buying newclothes every year because I
keep getting bigger, and theyjust make a decision that's
going to allow them to stayfocused.
Because here's the big thing, Ilove Jocko's stuff and he talks
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about a difference betweendiscipline and motivation.
Motivation is fleeting.
If you only do, if you onlywork out when you're motivated,
then you're going to get thosefizzle offs, right, it's going
to.
You'll be motivated for Januaryand then it goes away in
February.
You have to make the decisionto be disciplined.
that when the alarm goes off atfive o'clock and you're like I
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am tired, my body's sore, thatyou go and do it anyway.
And's where the growth happens.
But to be able to get to thatpoint like you have to
consciously make that decisionand and make that.
You know, colby talked about it.
I made a contract with myselfat the beginning of the season.
I'm making a contract withmyself that I'm getting up when
the alarm goes off, I'm going tothe gym, regardless of how I
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feel.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
It's true.
Everyone thinks like I'm alwaysmotivated to work out.
99% of the time I'm notmotivated to work out.
Maybe 1% of the year I'm stokedto go work out.
I'm like let's go and I'm likethat looks heavy and I feel
great.
The other 99% of the time Idon't want to work out.
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I don't want.
99 of the time I don't want towork out.
I don't want to be there, Idon't want to lift, I don't be
in the gym and I go do it anywayand then I feel great.
That's the fact that I did it atthe end of the day, right, I'm
glad I went and did that.
I don't want to.
I wasn't motivated, I was no, Ijust got to go show up and go
do it because I have to.
Yeah, right, that's what mybody requires.
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My body requires.
I go constantly work out.
I don't have a choice.
Now I believe that disciplineand that hard has become more
fleeting, and what I mean bythat is people are afraid to do
hard things.
People are afraid to putthemselves in a stressful
situation.
They expect the life to be allglorious and happy and when one
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little thing hard comes through,they blame everybody else but
themselves and say help me, getout of this.
No matter how easy that thingto us may seem, they think it's
the end of the world.
Why?
Why is that happening and howdo we reverse it?
Speaker 1 (20:36):
I think, as a society , right, we've gotten to a point
which is nice that, like, lifeis comfortable.
We're not waking up every daywondering if we're going to eat,
trying to go hunt food,wondering if some animal is
going to kill us, right,everything's there, food's in
the refrigerator, the heat's on,you know, for most people, and
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I think we've becomedesensitized, where we just sort
of expect that things should becomfortable, and so, when
they're not, we don't know whatto do.
And this goes right back to thediscipline, like.
So one of the things I starteddoing this year is I joined a
run club.
We run we meet up at Coho andPatchogue Anywhere from four to
eight miles.
I fucking hate running, andevery single time I go to this
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run club, I'm like I don't wantto do this.
I start the run, I'm 40 minutesin, I'm like this is even worse
than it was 40 minutes ago, andthen, when it's done, I get
that little endorphin rush.
I'm like all right, I'm gladthat I did this right.
The reason I do that, though,is because I'm like I need
something.
On a weekly basis, that's amental grind for me.
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I force myself into a positionwhere I'm extremely
uncomfortable.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
What I realized is I really don't get that with
CrossFit.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
I mean, the workouts are tough but I enjoy them.
I have fun doing them.
I don't have fun running.
I'm like I need something in mylife on a regular basis that I
don't enjoy.
That's a mental, physical grindthat I just push myself through
, um, and, and I think you haveto seek that discomfort, you
know, because it's too easy tojust live comfortably all the
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time and like you said, and thenwhen something goes off the
rails, you know what do you do?
Speaker 2 (22:28):
which I see a lot I'm .
I feel like I'm able to handlestressful situations, like
that's really not a big deal,more than most people when they
flip out of the little things.
I feel like that's really not abig deal More than most people
when they flip out over littlethings and you're like, fine,
you'll be fine, you'll live.
But because I went throughhardship and I had to learn that
the hard way.
But a lot of people never hadthat chance to go through mental
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hardship or I wouldn't evenrecommend it to begin with.
But just in general, it's just.
I feel like society as a wholeis going the wrong direction.
There's more gyms in the USthan there ever has been in any
time in history, and people arefatter than there's ever has
been any time in history andpeople have multiple
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comorbidities more now thanthere ever has been in history.
Our lifespan is going down forthe first time in human history.
So all of this has consequencesfor what we do and how we
approach ourselves and take careof ourselves.
And I just I think the mostimportant part about everything
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and I know we harp about thefitness part a lot, and I'm a
big believer in movement, I'm abig believer in exercise, don't
get me wrong, and I always getback is I don't have time, I
don't have time, I don't havetime.
Fine, you want to argue thatpoint and be a dead horse.
I'm not going to sit here andsay you have time always.
Whatever, get off your phone,whatever you have to eat every
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day or you die.
So you always have to put foodin your mouth.
No-transcript, you don't haveto eat the shit food, you can go
eat the healthy food.
It takes no difference on time,it has no difference on cost.
If you're doing it right, whyaren't you going the healthier
route?
What's that excuse and thatdisconnect from eating healthier
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as opposed to eating likegarbage?
Why, that's what gets me.
There's no time differential,there's no extra money.
Why and how do we change that?
Speaker 1 (24:35):
yeah.
So I call bullshit on both ofthem, right, like you don't need
a lot of time, um, 15 minuteswith a 50 pound dumbbell and you
could be broke the fuck off.
So I'm not.
I'm not buying that Some of theworst workouts that I've had in
CrossFit were four minutes long.
They were.
I'm throwing up afterwards, butfor the conversational purpose
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we can put that aside.
You know the food piece of it.
There's no excuse anymore.
It's 2025.
You know, when we were growingup, you know 80s, 90s you sort
of had the food pyramid and thedoctors you know prescribed to
that methodology and way ofthinking.
And you know we had commercialson TV balanced breakfast, which
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is low fat, milk and orangejuice and cereal and toast.
You had an excuse at that point, but not today.
Like everybody knows, right, youknow what you should be doing,
you know what you shouldn't bedoing and you're making the
choice to do it anyway.
So you know, to me I'm likeit's total bullshit.
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You know, very simple Forgetall the diets.
Diets, right, you can do paleo,keto, vegetarian, whatever.
I tell people all the time,listen, if you just eat meat,
vegetables six days a week,you'll be fine and then on your
seventh day have a cheat meal.
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But like you don't need to overcomplicate it, right, shop
shopping that perimeter of ofthe grocery store.
Um, you know another phrase thatI came up with.
So in the marine corps, when wedo a range, we police call.
So you get all the marinesonline and you go step by step
just picking up garbage and wehave a saying if it doesn't grow
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, it goes.
And I'm like, take that sayingand apply it to food.
If it doesn't grow, it goes.
And that will.
I'm like take that saying andapply it to food If it doesn't
grow, it goes.
And that will let you know whatyou should and shouldn't be
eating and if you follow that,you'll be fine.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
But everybody knows that you probably shouldn't be
eating it.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Yeah, yep, and listen , you got to live life right.
So I'm like on Sunday you canhave your cheat meal, eat
whatever the hell you want forone meal and then go right back
to that methodology.
But you can't claim diet's toohard.
I don't know what to eat, notin 2025.
That excuse is far gone.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Yeah, I totally agree .
And, Dan, just to kind of startwrapping this up, I want to get
more of a direct response forthis field for you, because this
is where you're at, forspecifically, people that want
to become entrepreneurs andspecifically for those that are.
What's an action item you wouldgive them related to health and
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fitness to start first overanything else?
Speaker 1 (27:23):
So I'm a big advocate of find something that's group
oriented.
I don't care what it is, itcould be fit body, orange theory
, CrossFit, jujitsu, kickboxing,bootcamp something that's a
group, that's coach led, thatall you have to do is walk in
the door.
This is a couple of things.
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Number one taking out themental baggage of having to come
.
What am I going to do today?
Just walking around LA Fitnessdoing the bro splits in 20
minutes on the treadmill?
That shit gets boring.
It's probably going to fizzleout.
I couldn't do it Even at thelevel of fitness that I'm at.
I'd lose interest.
Find something that'sgroup-based, coach-led.
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You don't have to come up withthe programming, you just do
what you're told.
But the second piece of that isthe relationships that you're
going to build through thatshared misery.
One of the reasons that Marineshave such a strong bond is
because we go through a 13-weekboot camp that's miserable and
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any time we meet each other weknow what we went through.
So I don't need to know theMarine, I just met him and I'm
already going to have arelationship and a level of
trust and understanding becauseof that shared experience, that
shared bond.
The same thing happens in agroup fitness environment on a
micro basis, right.
Each time you go through one ofthose difficult workouts, each
time you're broken off andyou're like, man, that sucked.
(28:48):
You have this group of peoplearound that you start seeing on
a regular basis.
You're developing a bond withthem.
There's a social component tothat and that becomes now this
driving force of like all right,if I don't show up today, I'm
not going to see my crew that Iwork out with, they're going to
give me shit about it.
You start drivingaccountability and I think
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that's really where the momentumpicks up is now.
You're making this into asocial relationship based
experience where there's groupshared experience and
accountability.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
I love that.
And then, to summarize theepisode, the last two questions
I asked everyone is.
The first one is if you were tosummarize the episode in one
sentence, what would be yourtake-home message?
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Say that one again.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
If you were to summarize this episode in one or
two sentences, what would beyour take-home message?
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Just fucking do it, love it.
Just get up and do it, that'sit.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Just get love it, just get up and do it.
That's it.
Just get up and go.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
And then the second question how can people find you
, get a hold of you and learnmore?
Yeah, so a couple ways.
You can just google dan singereos.
That'll bring you to my website.
Um, dan singer eos on instagram.
Um, and then dan singer onlinkedin.
I always say instagram isprobably the best way to go.
I was talking to you before.
There's a community ofimplementers out there.
The big differentiator, ifsomeone's thinking about
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implementing EOS in theirbusiness is going to be the
implementer that they choose.
I'm not the right fit foreverybody.
My Instagram page is more aboutme and my values, the things
that are important to me and mypersonality.
So go there, understand who Iam.
If I'm not for you, I'll gladlyintroduce you to someone else,
(30:34):
but that's the intent behindthat right Is to make sure that,
if we're gonna engage, that weare common, like-minded and
we're gonna click and connect.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
So I love it, dan.
Thank you for coming on, thankyou, guys, for listening to this
week's episode of health andfitness redefined.
Welcome to 2025.
Welcome to season five anduntil next time.
And don't forget, I'm ready.
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Hello and welcome to Help the Fitness Redefined.
I'm your host, anthony, andtoday we have another great
episode for all of you.
But before we get into theepisode, welcome to 2025.
Oh my God, crazy.
This is five years we've beendoing this.
Thank you for all you guyslistening.
Follow along.
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We got some exciting stuffcoming out of our main parent
company, redefine Fitness.
We are going through a crazyrebranding, a crazy, just
uplifting thing.
We're changing our logo.
We're becoming more into themedical community.
It's going to be exciting.
You guys just can't wait andwith this show, obviously follow
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along.
That it's all thanks to thelisteners here, showing that
that's where we really need tobe.
Is that top tier?
So excited to announce thatwithout further.
Just welcome to the show, dan.
Dan, it's a pleasure to haveyou on today yeah, I appreciate
you having me man.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
I'm excited for this yeah, me too.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
We got someone local for once.
I feel like the last guy wasfrom australia, so this is nice
to be back on this time zone.
No, he's teasing.
It's great get to interviewpeople everywhere.
Uh, before we hop into the show, though, just tell us a little
bit about yourself and how yougot into the health and fitness
world.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Yeah, absolutely so, dan Singer.
I'm a business coach, eosimplementer, so I work with
business owners and theirleadership teams and coach them
to help them get what they wantfrom their business.
Also a reservist in the MarineCorps, father of two, husband,
been into health and fitnessreally my entire life.
(01:53):
Did mixed martial arts growingup, you know, from about 10
years old till I was 18.
Swam in high school as well.
So always kind of more on thatindividual effort, team type of
environment.
Um started lifting a lot ofweights in college and then kind
of got back into some jiu-jitsuand stuff.
Um, after college kept throughthat through the marine corps
(02:17):
and then really started gettinginto more high intense stuff
after I went into the marinecorps.
So I went in at 25 um.
That was when I started runningfor the first time, which I
still despise, but I forcedmyself to do it and then found
CrossFit in 2014, which I'vebeen doing since then.
I'm not a CrossFit cultist,right.
(02:40):
I think.
There's a lot of modalities outthere and they're all great.
I just happen to like itbecause it checks a lot of the
boxes.
All I got to do is show up.
There's a workout already there, I don't have to think about
programming.
I get to lift heavy weights, Iget to do body weight stuff, I
get to do cardio.
It's all packaged together andit kind of keeps my attention
span engaged.
(03:01):
So it's been it's been ajourney for me.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
I love it.
And then, more specifically,you work with, obviously, a lot
of entrepreneurs, a lot ofbusiness owners, people that are
just trying to make it on theirown, but also, just before we
really hop into the topic, thiscan also apply for managers,
employees, I mean.
It doesn't have to be, you,don't have to be an entrepreneur
to I really feel like learnfrom where this conversation is
(03:27):
going to head.
It's important to understandthat, even as an employee, this
is a priority, and I'm going tobranch that into the very first
question and just be as directas possible, because it's 2025,
so let's do it.
Is your health and fitnessdirectly related to the amount
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of money you make, yes or no?
Yes, why?
Speaker 1 (03:54):
I think by prioritizing yourself, your
fitness, your health, that itallows you to get to a space
where other things become easy,right?
So I heard a quote recently, Ithink it was a Mark Twain quote
eat the frog, right.
So the idea is, if you wake upin the morning, you know you
(04:17):
have to eat a frog at some pointduring the day.
Eat it first thing in themorning, get that shit out of
the way, and then everythingelse becomes easy.
So for me, getting up at fiveo'clock sucks, like every day.
I've been doing it for years.
It still sucks.
Getting into the gym at sixo'clock and breaking myself off
for an hour sucks.
I feel great afterwards, butwhat it does is it sets the rest
(04:39):
of my day up where everythingfeels like it's easier in
comparison.
And so my to-do list, my thingsthat I know I have to get done
to keep the business movingforward, is not as big of a
mental drain at that pointbecause I've done the hardest
thing that I'm going to do allday as soon as I got up and I
think you have a compoundingeffect of that.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Why do you think most people don't prioritize the
health and fitness world,especially in the business owner
entrepreneur world?
Because I've met a lot ofpeople and over half don't even
work out.
So yeah, why is?
Why is that a thing?
Speaker 1 (05:17):
uh, the short answer I think they're being lazy, I
think it's hard, I think itsucks and I think it's really
easy, especially as an owner.
You know this is not todiscount.
I mean there's a lot of shit onyour plate as a business owner.
There's a lot of pressure, alot of burden, and you can
either get in front of that anddo like what I said go do your
(05:37):
hardest thing in the morning andthen make those other things
relatively feel easier, or youcan use all that hard shit
that's on your plate as anexcuse to not take care of
yourself.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
And I think that's the short answer.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
I think most people are just being lazy.
It's uncomfortable to get up atfive o'clock in the morning.
It's dark, it's cold, it sucks.
You're going into a gym to dohard shit.
It's easier to stay in bed tillseven o'clock and be
comfortable.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Yeah.
So it's the lack ofunderstanding to really do the
harder part of what's coming,and I'll talk a little bit.
Let me first clarify a point.
People think it's easierbecause I own gyms that it's
easier for me to work out it's.
I don't understand how hard itis to show it's actually.
I want you to imagine somethingfor a second, dan that you work
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in an office, setting right,and you go to work, you plug in,
you're in work.
Now I want you to go back toyour place of work, to go do
something that's stressrelieving.
You don't get to go to anoutside place like a gym.
You have to go back whereyou're in all the shit.
Everyone's talking to you,everyone wants your head and you
(06:47):
have to find your relaxationand mental fortitude to push
through a workout at your placethat you own or work.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Way harder.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
A hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
And I still do it right.
I still there.
I add an extra hour to my day,I still show up.
I still do it right.
I still there.
I add an extra hour to my day,I still show up.
I still get it done.
It doesn't matter if we'recrushing it or we're doing
really poorly.
It's that's got to be mypriority and my mental clarity
to wake myself, to get myselfgoing, because if I don't do
that, I don't take care ofmyself, the business is going to
suffer and at the end of theday, that's the number one
(07:21):
biggest priority.
I want to ask you a veryspecific question and tie it
into health and fitness.
So first it's going to feellike it's a little outside, but
then we'll double back.
What's the difference, in youropinion, between an entrepreneur
and a business owner?
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Okay, so I think an entrepreneur I kind of go to um,
there's a dynamic within eosthat we kind of capture.
You have the visionary andintegrator, which are two
critical roles.
Um, so think of steve jobs,steve wozniak.
Steve jobs is that visionarythat has all these crazy ideas.
(07:54):
Um, steve wozniak is the guythat kind of sifts through them
and he's like that's the onethat I'm going to take and make
it executable.
I liken those two roles to whatyou're asking.
So I think the entrepreneur ismore of that visionary, someone
who's got a lot of ideas,they've got aspirations, they're
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probably a little bit ADD,they're the one that's a little
crazy, which allows them to takethat leap of just starting
something, and they're like fuckit, I'll figure it out, but I'm
going to make this work.
Whereas the business owner Ilook at more of that integrator
type of person that has thatequity piece in it and is really
good at getting thosemethodical things done every day
(08:37):
.
But they're probably not theone that's constantly got all
these new ideas and branchingout and, you know, seeing
opportunities amongst all theshiny stuff.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
And have you found a correlation between how someone
takes care of themselves towhether or not they're an
entrepreneur or business owner?
Because I definitely see itbecause I definitely see it.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Yeah, I think so.
I mean it's a case by casebasis, right?
Like there's definitely and Ithink it comes down to how you
define success Because there'ssuccessful business owners out
there that financially right,their their top line revenue and
profitability is growing.
And you look at them and you'relike, are you physically aren't
taking care of yourself growing?
And you look at them and you'relike, oh, you physically aren't
(09:20):
taking care of yourself.
But it comes back to what's thatdefinition of success, right?
Are you going home at the endof a 10 hour day and just lump
it on the couch and you're tootired to engage with your kids
and you'll have an activerelationship with your wife and
are you dealing with healthissues?
So to me, that's not successful.
Yeah, you're making a lot ofmoney, but your life outside
those four walls of yourbusiness sucks, right?
(09:42):
I define success as being ableto have financial growth and
freedom, the ability to spendtime with your family how you
want, be there and be presentand engaged and have the energy
and not have these loominghealth issues over you.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Yeah, I'm even just to add to it kind of what I was
grasping at.
Business owners get stuck inthe I own a business.
Yes, they can make a lot ofmoney.
They still pull a salary forthemselves.
That's kind of their goals.
They want to have a businessbut make a salary for themselves
, while entrepreneurs are reallyhead first dive into it.
They all have ADD in thatbucket.
(10:27):
And they're just taking theserisks to jump forward and move
the company forward and careless about the let me just make
a steady salary and call it myown more about leaving a mark on
this world or really pushingsomething beyond themselves and
then to tie that into health andfitness.
Those that are entrepreneurs,you see a lot more, understand
(10:47):
the aspects of at least going tothe gym Yet again, taking a
risk of working out three orfour days a week, at least
eating healthy understandinglike I need this for my mental
clarity in order to have thesevisions to move forward, whereas
a business owner gets stuck inthe okay, it's the same
monotonous tasks over and, overand over again.
I get really good at them.
(11:07):
My brain doesn't have to thinkand I'm just happy being in that
status quo and I feel like Ican meet somebody.
You know instantaneouslywhether what they are and I
could just figure that.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Yeah, yeah, I think you know it's interesting, right
?
It's like I we're all, ashumans, kind of programmed to
make pretty quick, snappyjudgments.
You know, I think it's part ofour DNA and survival tactics.
You know, when we were livingin the woods, Hold on it's 0.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Yeah, six seconds.
We make a decision on something, something like that, something
ridiculous, yeah and I thinkfrom a evolutionary standpoint
right.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
It's because you have to decide pretty quick like is
this a threat or not?
Do I fight flight?
Where am I going?
Right, and that's stillingrained in us.
And one of the things that I dois I look at someone and if
they're not taking care ofthemselves, I now extrapolate
that into everything else.
If you're not concerned aboutkeeping your health and fitness
(12:07):
in check, what does that meanfor everything else in your life
If you can't prioritizeyourself first?
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Tie that into an employee now, because a lot more
people are in that range, right, a lot more people are
employees than employers.
Agreed, if you can't prioritizeyourself outside of work, how
do you expect you to prioritizeyourself inside of work?
Right, and there's always waysto help people and I'm a big
believer in that.
(12:35):
Don't get me wrong.
I am all about take the bull bythe horn, ask for outside help
like that.
We do personal training.
We were talking pre-show, justso everyone knows the importance
of.
Even as an entrepreneur, I havea business coach, right, I
still have someone that coachesme and pushes me to go forward I
still have a team behind methat pushes me to go forward.
(12:57):
So I still need thataccountability from the outside.
It's the same thing, for anemployee can have that
accountability from the outside.
Like you said, you want to showup to CrossFit, have the
workout planned out for you andnot think you just get through
because you know that they'rekeeping you accountable to show
up.
Same thing as an employee.
If you're going to go hire atrainer, have someone ready for
you so you don't have to thinkabout it, but you just show up
(13:18):
and do it and the hardest partis showing up and then let
everyone else take care of therest 100%.
And that will pay back fourfoldabout whatever you're making
for, whatever it costs becauseof the A being an entrepreneur
or a business owner, you'regoing to be able to think
clearer.
You're going to be able to livelonger, so it's going to pay
out dividends for you or be asan employee.
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You're going to become moreproductive.
You're going to start buildingand do operations, do systems
for the company.
They're going to start noticinghigher levels of energy.
So with that you're going toget promoted.
You're going to move up theladder a lot quicker and be able
to make more money.
That way it's a win-win foryour regard.
One side and then even the flipside of all of that is why work
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your ass off, why work to makeall this money in the world if
you're just not going toprioritize yourself and you're
going to die at a young age oryou're going to have a health
problem at a young age and we'vementioned a lot last year.
But just to reiterate livinglife like a rectangle as opposed
to a standard deviation curve.
So don't live your life whereyou peak at a certain age, let's
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say in your 30s, and you slowlydwindle out and die.
That's a standard deviationcurve.
Live life like a rectangle.
You're born, you're living agreat life.
Whatever age you end up dying,you just die at the top, that's
it Dead.
It doesn't matter what age,it's, just not having that
debilitating slow end up in thehospital all the time you're
sick, all the time you have togo out of work because you have
(14:42):
XYZ health issues, just becauseof things that are all
preventable.
That you would have taken careof that prior to nursing health
in the first place.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
You know it's funny.
You mentioned that too, becausethat's one of the things that
you know.
I just turned 40.
And I've heard throughout myentire life oh, wait till you
get till 30.
And I got there.
Nothing happened.
I'll wait till you're 35.
Okay, nothing happened.
Wait till you're 40.
I'm in better shape now thisyear than I have ever been, and
(15:11):
that's not because I was ever innot good shape, right.
Like I didn't have one of thesestories where I lost 100 pounds
and now, because I'm in thebest shape of my life, it was in
comparison to being a bag ofshit.
Like I didn't have one of thesestories where I lost 100 pounds
and now, because I'm in thebest shape of my life, it was in
comparison to being a bag ofshit.
Like I've just incrementally,just like you said, gotten
better and better and better astime goes on.
And I think most of societyoverplays the age card and I
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think a lot of it's justbullshit.
The age card and I think a lotof it's just bullshit.
You know it's like if you allowthat seed to plant in your head
again, it now becomes theexcuse that you let yourself use
to not be disciplined.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
So as an outside like I mean non-fitness person just
because you don't own a fitnesscompany.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
So let me just clarify that point.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
I have a question, because I ask this a lot to
people who are in my field and Iwant to get a little more of
the outside perspective.
How do you get somebody tostart?
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Yeah, I mean it's really tough, right.
I almost look at it as, likeyou know someone who has spent
that amount of time notprioritizing their fitness.
I look at them in the samecontext as an alcoholic or a
drug addict.
You know their substance abuseis food.
(16:29):
They have to want it.
Now you can.
I think you have an obligationpeople that you definitely, you
know, care about to be able tocall them out on that and say,
hey, like I'm letting you knowbecause I care about you and I'm
concerned, like I think youneed to get your shit together
(16:50):
and get healthy, but they're notgoing to do it until they're
ready.
You know, and it's it's.
I see the same thing on thebusiness coaching side, right,
like every client that I workwith.
When I meet with them, they'relike I'm stuck, I'm not really
sure how to get unstuck, I needhelp.
And they look at EOS and me andthey're like and this is the
way out.
(17:11):
But I've also been introduced toother business owners that they
recognize they're stuck butthey don't want help.
They're just kind ofcomfortable living in their day
to day.
And I think it's no differentwith fitness.
I don't, I don't.
I think they've got to get to apoint where they're like all
right, enough's enough, and theytake ownership of it right,
that's got to be an internallydriven decision and they take
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ownership of it.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Right, that's got to be an internally driven decision
, so there's no external factors.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
I think there's external, there's influencing,
right, there's external factorsthat can influence it.
But I think, ultimately, whenit comes down to it, that
decision and here's the thing, Ithink there's layers to the
decision right, you can havesort of a halfway bought in
decision of like, okay, it'sJanuary 1st, I'm gonna go to the
gym, right, and they're justgoing through the motions, and
then it fizzles out mid-February, that's, that's not.
(18:05):
It like it's got to get to thepoint where someone's like I'm
done, I don't, I'm done lookinglike this, I'm done feeling this
way, I'm done buying newclothes every year because I
keep getting bigger, and theyjust make a decision that's
going to allow them to stayfocused.
Because here's the big thing, Ilove Jocko's stuff and he talks
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about a difference betweendiscipline and motivation.
Motivation is fleeting.
If you only do, if you onlywork out when you're motivated,
then you're going to get thosefizzle offs, right, it's going
to.
You'll be motivated for Januaryand then it goes away in
February.
You have to make the decisionto be disciplined.
that when the alarm goes off atfive o'clock and you're like I
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am tired, my body's sore, thatyou go and do it anyway.
And's where the growth happens.
But to be able to get to thatpoint like you have to
consciously make that decisionand and make that.
You know, colby talked about it.
I made a contract with myselfat the beginning of the season.
I'm making a contract withmyself that I'm getting up when
the alarm goes off, I'm going tothe gym, regardless of how I
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feel.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
It's true.
Everyone thinks like I'm alwaysmotivated to work out.
99% of the time I'm notmotivated to work out.
Maybe 1% of the year I'm stokedto go work out.
I'm like let's go and I'm likethat looks heavy and I feel
great.
The other 99% of the time Idon't want to work out.
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I don't want.
99 of the time I don't want towork out.
I don't want to be there, Idon't want to lift, I don't be
in the gym and I go do it anywayand then I feel great.
That's the fact that I did it atthe end of the day, right, I'm
glad I went and did that.
I don't want to.
I wasn't motivated, I was no, Ijust got to go show up and go
do it because I have to.
Yeah, right, that's what mybody requires.
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My body requires.
I go constantly work out.
I don't have a choice.
Now I believe that disciplineand that hard has become more
fleeting, and what I mean bythat is people are afraid to do
hard things.
People are afraid to putthemselves in a stressful
situation.
They expect the life to be allglorious and happy and when one
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little thing hard comes through,they blame everybody else but
themselves and say help me, getout of this.
No matter how easy that thingto us may seem, they think it's
the end of the world.
Why?
Why is that happening and howdo we reverse it?
Speaker 1 (20:36):
I think, as a society , right, we've gotten to a point
which is nice that, like, lifeis comfortable.
We're not waking up every daywondering if we're going to eat,
trying to go hunt food,wondering if some animal is
going to kill us, right,everything's there, food's in
the refrigerator, the heat's on,you know, for most people, and
(21:02):
I think we've becomedesensitized, where we just sort
of expect that things should becomfortable, and so, when
they're not, we don't know whatto do.
And this goes right back to thediscipline, like.
So one of the things I starteddoing this year is I joined a
run club.
We run we meet up at Coho andPatchogue Anywhere from four to
eight miles.
I fucking hate running, andevery single time I go to this
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run club, I'm like I don't wantto do this.
I start the run, I'm 40 minutesin, I'm like this is even worse
than it was 40 minutes ago, andthen, when it's done, I get
that little endorphin rush.
I'm like all right, I'm gladthat I did this right.
The reason I do that, though,is because I'm like I need
something.
On a weekly basis, that's amental grind for me.
(21:49):
I force myself into a positionwhere I'm extremely
uncomfortable.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
What I realized is I really don't get that with
CrossFit.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
I mean, the workouts are tough but I enjoy them.
I have fun doing them.
I don't have fun running.
I'm like I need something in mylife on a regular basis that I
don't enjoy.
That's a mental, physical grindthat I just push myself through
, um, and, and I think you haveto seek that discomfort, you
know, because it's too easy tojust live comfortably all the
(22:21):
time and like you said, and thenwhen something goes off the
rails, you know what do you do?
Speaker 2 (22:28):
which I see a lot I'm .
I feel like I'm able to handlestressful situations, like
that's really not a big deal,more than most people when they
flip out of the little things.
I feel like that's really not abig deal More than most people
when they flip out over littlethings and you're like, fine,
you'll be fine, you'll live.
But because I went throughhardship and I had to learn that
the hard way.
But a lot of people never hadthat chance to go through mental
(22:48):
hardship or I wouldn't evenrecommend it to begin with.
But just in general, it's just.
I feel like society as a wholeis going the wrong direction.
There's more gyms in the USthan there ever has been in any
time in history, and people arefatter than there's ever has
been any time in history andpeople have multiple
(23:08):
comorbidities more now thanthere ever has been in history.
Our lifespan is going down forthe first time in human history.
So all of this has consequencesfor what we do and how we
approach ourselves and take careof ourselves.
And I just I think the mostimportant part about everything
(23:30):
and I know we harp about thefitness part a lot, and I'm a
big believer in movement, I'm abig believer in exercise, don't
get me wrong, and I always getback is I don't have time, I
don't have time, I don't havetime.
Fine, you want to argue thatpoint and be a dead horse.
I'm not going to sit here andsay you have time always.
Whatever, get off your phone,whatever you have to eat every
(23:57):
day or you die.
So you always have to put foodin your mouth.
No-transcript, you don't haveto eat the shit food, you can go
eat the healthy food.
It takes no difference on time,it has no difference on cost.
If you're doing it right, whyaren't you going the healthier
route?
What's that excuse and thatdisconnect from eating healthier
(24:20):
as opposed to eating likegarbage?
Why, that's what gets me.
There's no time differential,there's no extra money.
Why and how do we change that?
Speaker 1 (24:35):
yeah.
So I call bullshit on both ofthem, right, like you don't need
a lot of time, um, 15 minuteswith a 50 pound dumbbell and you
could be broke the fuck off.
So I'm not.
I'm not buying that Some of theworst workouts that I've had in
CrossFit were four minutes long.
They were.
I'm throwing up afterwards, butfor the conversational purpose
(24:57):
we can put that aside.
You know the food piece of it.
There's no excuse anymore.
It's 2025.
You know, when we were growingup, you know 80s, 90s you sort
of had the food pyramid and thedoctors you know prescribed to
that methodology and way ofthinking.
And you know we had commercialson TV balanced breakfast, which
(25:19):
is low fat, milk and orangejuice and cereal and toast.
You had an excuse at that point, but not today.
Like everybody knows, right, youknow what you should be doing,
you know what you shouldn't bedoing and you're making the
choice to do it anyway.
So you know, to me I'm likeit's total bullshit.
(25:40):
You know, very simple Forgetall the diets.
Diets, right, you can do paleo,keto, vegetarian, whatever.
I tell people all the time,listen, if you just eat meat,
vegetables six days a week,you'll be fine and then on your
seventh day have a cheat meal.
(26:00):
But like you don't need to overcomplicate it, right, shop
shopping that perimeter of ofthe grocery store.
Um, you know another phrase thatI came up with.
So in the marine corps, when wedo a range, we police call.
So you get all the marinesonline and you go step by step
just picking up garbage and wehave a saying if it doesn't grow
(26:20):
, it goes.
And I'm like, take that sayingand apply it to food.
If it doesn't grow, it goes.
And that will.
I'm like take that saying andapply it to food If it doesn't
grow, it goes.
And that will let you know whatyou should and shouldn't be
eating and if you follow that,you'll be fine.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
But everybody knows that you probably shouldn't be
eating it.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Yeah, yep, and listen , you got to live life right.
So I'm like on Sunday you canhave your cheat meal, eat
whatever the hell you want forone meal and then go right back
to that methodology.
But you can't claim diet's toohard.
I don't know what to eat, notin 2025.
That excuse is far gone.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Yeah, I totally agree .
And, Dan, just to kind of startwrapping this up, I want to get
more of a direct response forthis field for you, because this
is where you're at, forspecifically, people that want
to become entrepreneurs andspecifically for those that are.
What's an action item you wouldgive them related to health and
(27:18):
fitness to start first overanything else?
Speaker 1 (27:23):
So I'm a big advocate of find something that's group
oriented.
I don't care what it is, itcould be fit body, orange theory
, CrossFit, jujitsu, kickboxing,bootcamp something that's a
group, that's coach led, thatall you have to do is walk in
the door.
This is a couple of things.
(27:44):
Number one taking out themental baggage of having to come
.
What am I going to do today?
Just walking around LA Fitnessdoing the bro splits in 20
minutes on the treadmill?
That shit gets boring.
It's probably going to fizzleout.
I couldn't do it Even at thelevel of fitness that I'm at.
I'd lose interest.
Find something that'sgroup-based, coach-led.
(28:06):
You don't have to come up withthe programming, you just do
what you're told.
But the second piece of that isthe relationships that you're
going to build through thatshared misery.
One of the reasons that Marineshave such a strong bond is
because we go through a 13-weekboot camp that's miserable and
(28:27):
any time we meet each other weknow what we went through.
So I don't need to know theMarine, I just met him and I'm
already going to have arelationship and a level of
trust and understanding becauseof that shared experience, that
shared bond.
The same thing happens in agroup fitness environment on a
micro basis, right.
Each time you go through one ofthose difficult workouts, each
time you're broken off andyou're like, man, that sucked.
(28:48):
You have this group of peoplearound that you start seeing on
a regular basis.
You're developing a bond withthem.
There's a social component tothat and that becomes now this
driving force of like all right,if I don't show up today, I'm
not going to see my crew that Iwork out with, they're going to
give me shit about it.
You start drivingaccountability and I think
(29:09):
that's really where the momentumpicks up is now.
You're making this into asocial relationship based
experience where there's groupshared experience and
accountability.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
I love that.
And then, to summarize theepisode, the last two questions
I asked everyone is.
The first one is if you were tosummarize the episode in one
sentence, what would be yourtake-home message?
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Say that one again.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
If you were to summarize this episode in one or
two sentences, what would beyour take-home message?
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Just fucking do it, love it.
Just get up and do it, that'sit.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Just get love it, just get up and do it.
That's it.
Just get up and go.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
And then the second question how can people find you
, get a hold of you and learnmore?
Yeah, so a couple ways.
You can just google dan singereos.
That'll bring you to my website.
Um, dan singer eos on instagram.
Um, and then dan singer onlinkedin.
I always say instagram isprobably the best way to go.
I was talking to you before.
There's a community ofimplementers out there.
The big differentiator, ifsomeone's thinking about
(30:12):
implementing EOS in theirbusiness is going to be the
implementer that they choose.
I'm not the right fit foreverybody.
My Instagram page is more aboutme and my values, the things
that are important to me and mypersonality.
So go there, understand who Iam.
If I'm not for you, I'll gladlyintroduce you to someone else,
(30:34):
but that's the intent behindthat right Is to make sure that,
if we're gonna engage, that weare common, like-minded and
we're gonna click and connect.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
So I love it, dan.
Thank you for coming on, thankyou, guys, for listening to this
week's episode of health andfitness redefined.
Welcome to 2025.
Welcome to season five anduntil next time.
And don't forget, I'm ready.
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